User talk:Geo Swan/archive/2009-July-to-September

Norwitz after January.
With Norwitz it appears that he spoke at the UN this year and actually it was on the 5th Febuary at the U.N. High-Level Symposium on Water Security so *after* January and he was also awarded the Superior Civilian Service Medal (which we don't have much information on but I'll start that article and it is 3rd in rank just behind the Meritorious Civilian Service Award. That means that he was really very much a public figure known to many to get a UN invite but certainly now he is notable though more due to events in 2009 and so after the date on your initial article. You should restart it. Ttiotsw (talk) 06:29, 2 July 2009 (UTC)

Talkback
Wikireader41 (talk) 22:31, 2 July 2009 (UTC)

Talkback
Wikireader41 (talk) 14:39, 3 July 2009 (UTC)

Re: Bad News
I was prepared for that little eventuality. I think there's a massive Witch Hunt on this site against Home and Away and it's articles and it's been an ongoing battle for a long time now.

A lot of people do their level best on articles but STILL it's not enough.

The Articles'll probably be shaved, reconstructed and then torn down again. Rinse, lather, repeat Conquistador2k6 5 July 2009 21:01 (UTC)

File:Yasser Hamdi in Afghanistan.jpg
Just to let you know the copyright of the above image is the Associated Press. Polly (Parrot) 02:48, 7 July 2009 (UTC)

Home and Away character list
Matthewedwards : Chat  01:35, 9 July 2009 (UTC)

Talkback
-- VS talk 02:09, 9 July 2009 (UTC)

Re: Polar Foundation
Romanian Wikipedia can be a little strange, so I'm sorry that happened to you. I'm assuming they won't give you any trouble over pages in your own userspace, though. If you'd like, I can come fix your translation once you do it again. By the way, what do you think of my suggestion to move the English page to Romanian Antarctic Foundation or some such? Is there a particular reason we should have the title in Romanian? Because if not, WP:UE would seem to apply. Best, Biruitorul Talk 15:32, 11 July 2009 (UTC)


 * I don't think I had read WP:UE before. It was surprisingly interested.  I am happy to defer to your knowledge of Romanian in general, and I specifically am on board for your suggestion WRT this foundation.  Cheers!  Geo Swan (talk) 18:25, 11 July 2009 (UTC)

AFD notification
You asked if there was a reason why I didn't notify the article's originator (that is, you) when I nominated it for deletion. The short answer is: no, there was no reason, at least not one that I thought about. As far as I'm aware, there's no requirement to leave personal notifications about an AFD, and when I make an AFD nomination, all I do is go through the three steps listed at WP:AFD. If there was a fourth step listed, "leave this template on the Talk page of the article's originator," I would probably follow it, but as it is I don't think about it. I suppose I assume that anyone interested in keeping the article should have it on their Watchlist and should therefore see the AFD nom at the article (and in this case it was discussed on the Talk page for a couple days beforehand). But I didn't mean any harm in failing to notify you, and I apologize if any harm was incurred. Propaniac (talk) 03:17, 12 July 2009 (UTC)

File copyright problem with File:Sheberghan mass graves, 2004, 2006, 2007.jpg
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Above Images
The pdf source you list is the Naval Postgraduate School isn't that part of the US Federal Government? Polly (Parrot) 03:12, 15 July 2009 (UTC)

Lake Iroquois Shoreline
I proposed the merger in May 2008. After one year there was no discussion so I performed the merge.

The shoreline is a part of the geology of Lake Iroquois. Therefore it makes sense to talk about it on the Glacial Lake Iroquois article. The remnant shoreline is only visible in the vicinity of Toronto which is only a small part of the total shoreline of the ancient lake. IMO it isn't notable enough to warrant a separate article. EncyclopediaUpdaticus (talk) 12:19, 18 July 2009 (UTC)


 * You are incorrect. The ancient shoreline is observable at various places, including near Fort Drum, on the New York shore at the other end of the lake.  I got the original image used for Lake Iroquois from a web-site from the Army base at Fort Drum that discussed the Lake Iroquois shoreline.  Geo Swan (talk) 16:11, 18 July 2009 (UTC)


 * None of that information was on either page. Please add it to the current page. If enough evidence surfaces to make the shoreline significant in respects other than its glacial origins (has it factored into human history?) than maybe the article might deserve to be reinstated. However, to date, nothing like that has appeared. EncyclopediaUpdaticus (talk) 12:08, 19 July 2009 (UTC)

Chukchi Cap
I've added links to the Chukchi Cap today.--86.25.15.141 (talk) 11:31, 20 July 2009 (UTC)

Re: Your assistance please...
Hi,

No the deleted image (File:Asadullah Khalid asad.jpg) is not the same as the images you mentioned, it was a low resolution, very tightly cropped (top of head missing) image of him facing the camera and aparently speaking into a microphone. My guess would be it's a screenshot from a TV broadcast or simmilar. --Sherool (talk) 16:29, 20 July 2009 (UTC)

Merge
Debating merging Libyan training camp and LIFG training camp, going to look for more information tonight after work. Sherurcij (speaker for the dead) 18:24, 20 July 2009 (UTC)


 * I have wondered whether "The Libyan camp" might refer to Khalden, because its long term director was a Libyan. Geo Swan (talk) 18:31, 20 July 2009 (UTC)

AN/I
You've been fingered at WP:ANI. Crafty (talk) 04:46, 23 July 2009 (UTC)

Category:Guantanamo Bay attorneys
Was wondering if you were aware there is a CfD for this. Guessing you may have created the original (now changed) category, as you are the only talk page contributor.John Z (talk) 08:40, 26 July 2009 (UTC)

Updated Link on Bill Roggio Page
Hi- It seems that the third link on the "Bill Roggio" article is no longer valid. The following is a link that leads to the article referenced ("W's Biggest Hit"): http://www.investors.com/NewsAndAnalysis/Article.aspx?id=457549

I'm rather new to the editing side of Wikipedia, so I'm not sure, etiquette-wise, if this is something that I should request you to edit, or if you're fine with me making the edit. Please just let me know.

Best,

Koschei D (talk) 06:47, 27 July 2009 (UTC)

Re: Bill Roggio
Glad I could help! Thanks for filling me in on the update.

Best, Koschei D (talk) 14:48, 27 July 2009 (UTC)

AfD nomination of Padsha Wazir (disambiguation)
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AFD
I'm nominating Shona Holmes for deletion.--Fire 55 (talk) 21:01, 6 August 2009 (UTC)

ANI for article Jeffrey_D._Gordon
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Articles for deletion nomination of Abdul Salam (Taliban leader, Karabak front, 2001)
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Articles for deletion nomination of Abdullah Abu Masood camp
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Articles for deletion nomination of Abdul Salam (Taliban leader, Kabul front, 2001)
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Abdul Basit (terrorist suspect)
You are right, I forgot to inform you of that deletion request. Didn't think there would be a real Wikipedian behind an article like that. I'm sorry. 6:58 2009 August 17


 * my reply. Geo Swan (talk) 16:54, 17 August 2009 (UTC)


 * I agree with you fully that I should have given you the opportunity to give your opinion about the page. There is a reason I had nominated it for deletion though, and I think you don't really get that point.


 * My point is this: "Abdul Basit" is a name like the English "John Smith". It's a very common name in Arabic culture. You aren't making a Wikipedia page about every reference to a John Smith on the internet, you know? Furthermore, "Abdul Basit" is a very well known celebrity to the Arabic people, as it's one of the best reciters of the holy Quran of our time. That being said, it wouldn't surprise anyone that many Arabic people name their sons after this guy. Also, "Abdul" is one of the 99 names of "Allah" (Names of God in the Qur%27an), and many people name their children after one of those names.


 * Hope this clears things up. I hope you're not re-entering that page to Wikipedia, because to me, it's near the edge of racism (don't get me wrong, I'm not an Arab). :: 15:23, 2009 August 17


 * Let me say first I have realized that Arabic names are tricky, and, without representing myself as any kind of expert, I have tried to tell others when I think they are mishandling them. I'd be happy to learn more from you of further wrinkles.


 * WRT to "John Smith" -- I think homonyms, notable individuals with names shared with others, are less common in European languages than in Arabic. But we do get them.  And when we do we have a disambiguation page, and the individual "John Smith" articles are modified by a disambiguating suffix.  So we do start to cover every "John Smith" who is worth covering.


 * I have no intention of adding racist material. I don't see however, how either the version you nominated, or the version at User:Geo Swan/review/Abdul Basit (terrorist suspect) is racist, or near racist.  And I would very much appreciate hearing your reasoning.


 * In general, when thinking about how to handle material on controversial topics, I try to think about how I would like to see the wikipedia handle the topic of legal, large-scale slavery, if slavery was still being practiced in western industrial nations. Back when slavery was legal and accepted it is my impression that it was the abolitionists -- those whose views is most close to the modern attitude on the equality of all individuals, who were regarded as the kooks.  I'd like to think that the wikipedia could rise to the occasion.  The mainstream view would have to be neutrally represented.  And the modern view, that all humans have the same innate abilities and rights, would also have to be fairly and neutrally represented, without edging into advocacy.


 * Was Abdul Basit unfairly profiled, and unfairly suspected, on flimsy evidence? We don't know.  Whatever evidence existed about him remains secret.  Covering that he existed, was suspected, was reported to have been held taken into secret custody doesn't need to imply that the allegations have been confirmed.  If you think the current wording implies that it is confirmed that he played a role in terrorism, or that it comes near to implying this, do you think it is possible to draft wording that doesn't imply confirmation?


 * On some other issues some of my correspondents think that it is best to not cover material when they think it contains allegations that they don't (personally) consider credible. I think that is a mistake.  WP:VER says "verifiabiliy, not truth".  I think we have two choices when there is a topic that interests us, but the references available to us present conclusions at odds with our own conclusions.  I think we can hold our nose, and fairly and faithfully present contributions that fairly and neutrally presents what the WP:RS say, even if we disagree with it.  Or, we can choose to hold off on covering that topic.  We can leave it, and possibly let someone else work on it.  Or we can leave it, and wait, and maybe additional WP:RS will be published we won't have to hold our nose to present.


 * I don't think there is any topic, no matter how controversial, that can't be represented in a neutral fashion, with enough effort.


 * Cheers! Geo Swan (talk) 20:59, 17 August 2009 (UTC)


 * Sorry for using the time template, was looking for a quick way to type the UTC time without losing the signature. Thanks for that one.


 * I still think you're missing the point. My point is you're gathering news topics on an Abdul Basit. But there's no way of knowing that the Abdul Basit named in topic #1 on website X is the same as in topic #2 on website Y, because there are many Arabic people carrying that name. Of course, if you do have evidence that all of the Abdul Basits you had gathered are one and the same person, I'm not complaining at all. Hey, freedom of speech! Write what you want!


 * Let me put it in an other way. It's nonsense to create a topic "Peter" and citing many sources of a "Peter" who had been involved in different crimes, with no evidence at all that those Peters are one person. The result of that page would be that neutral knowledge database Wikipedia says that everybody called Peter is bad.


 * Since it regards terrorism and not petty crimes, I found the page to be near the edge of racism. I didn't mean to say I'm insulted or anything! Not at all! I'm just trying to say the page loses its neutrality, in my opinion, when you haven't got evidence that those Abdul Basits are one and the same person. Like Wikipedia says Peter is a bad guy cause you found a few Peters on the net that committed a crime. Catching my drift?


 * Hope this settles the case, 'cause it's not like I'll loose a nights sleep if you really want to keep that article. :)


 * I'm also sorry if the message hadn't gotten across clearly enough on my first try. I'm Dutch, it's not easy to make your point in a different language.


 * With kind regards, 00:25, 19 August 2009 (UTC)


 * A quick note just to clear up any misunderstanding, "Abdul" is not one of the names of Allah, it is the combination of "abd" (servant) with "al" (the). However, "Basit" is one of the 99 names (as is every other name that follows "Abdul", Abdulrahman, Abdulkareem, Abdul Sayyaf, etc).
 * People name their children "Abdul (servant of)" + "[insert one of 99 names]". That way, their child is "Servant of the Just One", or "Servant of the Charitable One", or in this case, "Servant of the One Who Lays Things Out". Just for future reference! Sherurcij (speaker for the dead) 01:39, 19 August 2009 (UTC)


 * I'm no expert either. I was told Abdul was one of the names of Allah by an Arabic man, but I guess I didn't get that right. The guy doesn't speak my native language that good. Anyway: thank you for clearing that up! :) 18:57, 19 August 2009 (UTC)

AfD nomination of Alan Kay (judge)
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Articles for deletion nomination of Al Qaida guest house, Kabul
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Articles for deletion nomination of Al Fand training camp
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Articles for deletion nomination of Al Aqua military training camp
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Articles for deletion nomination of Suspect guest house, Jalalabad
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Articles for deletion nomination of Asil training camp
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RE: A request
Certainly: I'll bookmark any more I see and we can discuss them. The main flaw (and something to avoid in the future) is that they don't pass WP:N despite the references because the references don't go into any detail - they're not about the safe houses, they only briefly mention them in relation to other stuff, that sort of thing. Ironholds (talk) 18:17, 23 August 2009 (UTC)
 * replied. Geo Swan (talk) 18:27, 23 August 2009 (UTC)

Notice of a reverted edit
I have reverted (rolled-back) your edit here in the assumption that you did not mean to take out all of Jennavecia's talk page when posting? If necessary please repost your comment without removing all of the other material.-- VirtualSteve need admin support? 11:52, 24 August 2009 (UTC)


 * Did I? That is unexpected.  I had that edit window open for a couple of days.  But when I opened it, I had clicked on the "add a new section" tab.  Odd.  Thanks.  Geo Swan (talk) 11:56, 24 August 2009 (UTC)
 * That is odd. Glad I could be of assistance.-- VirtualSteve need admin support? 11:58, 24 August 2009 (UTC)

Abu Zubaydah's Picture
Hi Geoswan, thanks for all your posts on the Abu Zubaydah page. I think the picture you recently posted is actually from his capture when he was piled into the back of a pickup truck with the other captured detainees that night, not from his interrogation. As far as I know there are no pictures of Abu Zubaydah from his interrogation. ArthurThomas24 (talk) 01:18, 26 August 2009 (UTC)

Talkback
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Talkback
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Talkback
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Talkback
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Articles for deletion nomination of Ryan Bell
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Reply
I do appreciate a candid response. Perhaps now we can follow my suggestion about two days ago and drop this matter, since we're obviously not going to agree over editorial issues and I see no point in perusing user ones. Ironholds (talk) 23:37, 29 August 2009 (UTC)

AfD nomination of Suspect guest house, Konduz
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Mike Moran
Hi Geo, In reply to your query - the article was first created on 10 November 2004 by IP 63.196.241.140, it was prodded on 27 September 2008 and deleted 5 days later. It was then moved to your userspace on 26 December 2008 and you requested deletion moments later. As far as I can see the only edit you made to it as Geo Swan in its entire history was to request the delete. Hope this helps, best, Nancy  talk  12:13, 2 September 2009 (UTC)

Hello alter-ego
Hey mate, just came across reference to a "Jawr" and a "al-Jabal" training camp in the 90s, both in AFG. Any ideas/sources so we can add these two? Sherurcij (speaker for the dead) 00:59, 4 September 2009 (UTC)

Articles for deletion nomination of Abu Hureira Qasm al-Rimi
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Could you please explain further...
Could you please explain why you deleted File:Great Bear Lake a.png?

Thanks! Geo Swan (talk) 23:26, 5 September 2009 (UTC)


 * It's an image description page without an image. It looks like the image was deleted in 2005 by User:TheCoffee (back when image deletion was permanent) for not having a source, the description page was restored in late 2007, and I deleted it a week later when OrphanBot informed me that it had found a description page without an image. --Carnildo (talk) 20:06, 7 September 2009 (UTC)

Zaid Muhamamd Sa'id Al Husayn
Zaid Muhamamd Sa'id Al Husayn needs to have his CSRT allegations added. Sherurcij (speaker for the dead) 15:12, 9 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Will do. Geo Swan (talk) 15:30, 9 September 2009 (UTC)

File:Khalid_Sheikh_Mohammed_image_widely_published_in_September_2009_-a.jpg
I have tagged File:Khalid_Sheikh_Mohammed_image_widely_published_in_September_2009_-a.jpg as orphaned fairuse. In order for the image to be kept at Wikipedia, it must be included in at least one article. Otherwise, it will be deleted in seven days. feydey (talk) 08:20, 10 September 2009 (UTC)

File:Yellowknife Airport Terminal.jpg
I noticed that you added Category:Yellowknife airport to that page. The actual file is hosted at Commons so adding a category has the effect of creating a page on Wikipedia. I've deleted the page but of course it still looks like it exists, File:Yellowknife Airport Terminal.jpg but it isn't and should not have categories. Enter CambridgeBayWeather, waits for audience applause, not a sausage 02:16, 13 September 2009 (UTC)

Padsha Wazir (disambiguation)
See User:Geo Swan/Padsha Wazir (disambiguation) for the userfied page. JForget 19:30, 14 September 2009 (UTC)

Category sorting
Just a reminder that the  magic word uses a colon, not a pipe; for instance , not. —Paul A (talk) 00:58, 15 September 2009 (UTC)

More Talkback
ToET 02:10, 16 September 2009 (UTC)

Avoiding this problem in the future...
Apologies once more for the confusion. In any case, I've made a suggestion on the RFD discussion which I think will avoid the sorts of the misunderstanding behind both the red link removal today and the creation of those redirects before. Let me know what you think. — m a k o ๛  04:31, 16 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Also, thanks for reverting the relevant changes. I appreciate the help. — m a k o ๛  19:10, 16 September 2009 (UTC)

Mysteries
I noticed your "are detainees allowed to talk to one another?" question. I am sorry I can't remember the names but I have read of one detainee who was wearing orange overalls because he ha been in a disagreement with another detainee. Also one who had discussed certain aspects of his story with another detainee. So it would seem likely that some at least of the detainees were mixing, and certainly we know that was the case with the younger detainees. Rich Farmbrough, 00:34, 19 September 2009 (UTC).

Speedy deletion nomination of Muhammad Jafar Jamal al-Kahtani
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Articles for deletion nomination of Shona Holmes
I have nominated Shona Holmes, an article that you created, for deletion. I do not think that this article satisfies Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion, and have explained why at Articles for deletion/Shona Holmes. Your opinions on the matter are welcome at that same discussion page; also, you are welcome to edit the article to address these concerns. Thank you for your time.Please contact me if you're unsure why you received this message. Fire 55 (talk) 21:04, 22 September 2009 (UTC)

AFD for Shona Holmes
First, let me say thank you for pointing me towards the podcast. I still don't think it warrants Shona having a whole article to herself but it certainly reinforces the need to have a section on her with relation to the healthcare debate, which I believe already exists.

However, could I suggest that you and Fire22 go to WP:TEA. I know this is his third time nominating the article for deletion in a very short space of time and that is something that should be discussed but anything other than civil discourse isn't going to make either of you look good! PanydThe muffin is not subtle 14:04, 23 September 2009 (UTC)

You may have seen that I'm now sitting on the fence. I hadn't considered the impact of Holmes' case in Canada before, I assumed she'd be laughed out of court. Surely nobody takes her seriously? Anyway, my argument to delete was partly based on Fire22's inexpert copy-and-paste, and probably a generous side serving of IDONTLIKEIT, so I'm staying out of the debate now. Fences &amp;  Windows  16:28, 24 September 2009 (UTC)

Talkback
~ mazca  talk 06:58, 24 September 2009 (UTC)

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IQinn (talk) 15:17, 28 September 2009 (UTC)

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IQinn (talk) 03:12, 29 September 2009 (UTC)

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IQinn (talk) 06:05, 29 September 2009 (UTC)

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IQinn (talk) 06:42, 29 September 2009 (UTC)

Shona Holmes
An unresolved lawsuit isn't "precedent-setting"; by definition, a precedent isn't set until a lawsuit is resolved, because the resolution is what the precedent is. And by the same token, a lawsuit isn't notable until it sets a precedent, and therefore isn't notable until it's resolved — which means that as things currently stand, she's still only notable for 1E. Bearcat (talk) 14:19, 29 September 2009 (UTC)