User talk:Geo Swan/archive/2010-November

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MfD nomination of User:Geo Swan/Qari Jabar
User:Geo Swan/Qari Jabar, a page you substantially contributed to, has been nominated for deletion. Your opinions on the matter are welcome; please participate in the discussion by adding your comments at Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/User:Geo Swan/Qari Jabar and please be sure to sign your comments with four tildes ( ~ ). You are free to edit the content of User:Geo Swan/Qari Jabar during the discussion but should not remove the miscellany for deletion template from the top of the page; such a removal will not end the deletion discussion. Thank you. :| TelCo NaSp  Ve :|  03:53, 2 November 2010 (UTC)

MfD nomination of User:Geo Swan/Talat Hamdani
User:Geo Swan/Talat Hamdani, a page you substantially contributed to, has been nominated for deletion. Your opinions on the matter are welcome; please participate in the discussion by adding your comments at Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/User:Geo Swan/Talat Hamdani and please be sure to sign your comments with four tildes ( ~ ). You are free to edit the content of User:Geo Swan/Talat Hamdani during the discussion but should not remove the miscellany for deletion template from the top of the page; such a removal will not end the deletion discussion. Thank you. :| TelCo NaSp  Ve :|  04:06, 2 November 2010 (UTC)


 * I see that you moved User:Geo Swan/Talat Hamdani to Talat Hamdani. Perhaps you had not read the MfD notice on the page, which says "please do not blank, merge, or move it, or remove this notice, while the discussion is in progress". (My emphasis.) JamesBWatson (talk) 12:41, 2 November 2010 (UTC)

Pages you may want to delete
There are still a lot of pages in your userspace that you may want to delete, instead of having to go through a MfD for them. These include User:Geo Swan/Guantanamo/additional notes/Brahim Yadel, User:Geo Swan/Guantanamo/additional notes/Sharbat (Guantanamo detainee 1051) (and the then superfluous page User:Geo Swan/Guantanamo/additional notes); User:Geo Swan/Guantanamo/Abusive Correspondents/HanzoHattori (and User:Geo Swan/Guantanamo/Abusive Correspondents); User:Geo Swan/Guantanamo/abusive presiding officer; User:Geo Swan/Guantanamo/Abdul Zahir charges; User:Geo Swan/Guantanamo/al Janki prison riot; User:Geo Swan/Guantanamo/alleged Guantanamo recidivists; User:Geo Swan/Guantanamo/ARB lists; User:Geo Swan/Guantanamo/articles about captives that aren't ready yet/Saudi captives who are known to be released, but otherwise undocumented; User:Geo Swan/Guantanamo/Articles for which I requested administrative deletion; User:Geo Swan/Guantanamo/articles that aren't ready yet/Guantanamo documents/Terrorist-Related Locations and Facilities. This only covers the "/Guantanamo/A" pages, and doesn't mean that the other pages are useful or premissible, only that they didn't strike me as problematic at first glance. Fram (talk) 12:36, 2 November 2010 (UTC)


 * Thanks for your interest.


 * There is a comment you repeated in some of your recent comments on my work -- that certain subpages could not be easily and quickly turned into articles that would survive in article space. I have seen other contributors make similar comments.  But WP:User pages doesn't say every sub page in user space has to be intended to be transformed into an article.  I believe sub-pages that are scaffolding for articles can be completely compliant with WP:User pages -- and all our other policies.


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 * User:Geo Swan/Guantanamo/al Janki prison riot ||
 * We have an article on this event -- called Battle of Al Janki, os something like that.
 * The existing article has some serious weaknesses -- it relies entirely on coalition accounts, and accounts from journalists friendly to the coalition.
 * There are no coverage of what the surviving captives have to say.
 * I believe that material, properly referenced, and written from a neutral point of view, belongs in that article.
 * I anticipate choosing wording that everyone will agree is neutral will require an effort -- an effort I haven't made yet.
 * I would welcome clarification as to why anyone would regard this subpage as problematic.
 * User:Geo Swan/Guantanamo/articles that aren't ready yet/Guantanamo documents/Terrorist-Related Locations and Facilities ||
 * This page of notes describes a real document.
 * I don't yet have sufficient WP:RS to write much about this document in article space.
 * However, I am keeping my eyes peeled for addition references, and, when they emerge, I will add the material I made notes of here.
 * I would welcome clarification as to why anyone would regard this subpage as problematic.
 * User:Geo Swan/Guantanamo/ARB lists ||
 * I don't see how the material in this subpage is problematic.
 * User:Geo Swan/Guantanamo/additional notes/Brahim Yadel ||
 * I saved a perfectly civil and collegial discussion.
 * A general premise was discussed -- what percentage of new articles are junk. My correspondent thought almost all new articles were junk.
 * I was skeptical. I had never taken a systematic look at the incoming new article stream.  I was surprised that, while the percentage of junk wasn't as high as my correspondent thought, it was a lot higher than what I anticipated.
 * Given that I have paraphrased this experiment, in other discussions of the percentage of cruft, I don't see what is wrong with keeping this discussion on hand to consult.
 * I renamed this User:Geo Swan/An experiment -- are 90 percent of new articles junk?
 * User:Geo Swan/Guantanamo/additional notes/Sharbat (Guantanamo detainee 1051) ||
 * User:Geo Swan/Guantanamo/additional notes ||
 * User:Geo Swan/Guantanamo/Abusive Correspondents/HanzoHattori ||
 * User:Geo Swan/Guantanamo/Abusive Correspondents ||
 * User:Geo Swan/Guantanamo/abusive presiding officer ||
 * User:Geo Swan/Guantanamo/Abdul Zahir charges ||
 * I transwikied the previous contents of this page.
 * It now contains a list of terms used in the document. If those terms have article I think it is worth considering whether they should use the wikisource document this sub-page parallels, as a reference.
 * I would welcome clarification as to why anyone would regard this subpage as problematic.
 * User:Geo Swan/Guantanamo/alleged Guantanamo recidivists ||
 * Alleged recidivism is a perfectly valid topic for article space
 * I think scaffolding to support those articles is a perfectly valid use of userspace.
 * I would welcome clarification as to why anyone would regard this subpage as problematic.
 * User:Geo Swan/Guantanamo/articles about captives that aren't ready yet/Saudi captives who are known to be released, but otherwise undocumented;
 * User:Geo Swan/Guantanamo/articles that aren't ready yet/Guantanamo documents/Terrorist-Related Locations and Facilities ||
 * There is a real document, entitled "Terrorist-Related Locations and Facilities". I'd like to read it.  I believe it would be interesting.  It is classified, and hasn't been leaked.
 * If more WP:RS describe this classified document, or if it is leaked or declassified and released, I will do my best to draft neutral, properly referenced coverage of it in article space.
 * Meanwhile I would like to record the little bit that is currently known about the document, for if and when more is known about it.
 * I would welcome clarification as to why anyone would regard this subpage as problematic.
 * }
 * User:Geo Swan/Guantanamo/alleged Guantanamo recidivists ||
 * Alleged recidivism is a perfectly valid topic for article space
 * I think scaffolding to support those articles is a perfectly valid use of userspace.
 * I would welcome clarification as to why anyone would regard this subpage as problematic.
 * User:Geo Swan/Guantanamo/articles about captives that aren't ready yet/Saudi captives who are known to be released, but otherwise undocumented;
 * User:Geo Swan/Guantanamo/articles that aren't ready yet/Guantanamo documents/Terrorist-Related Locations and Facilities ||
 * There is a real document, entitled "Terrorist-Related Locations and Facilities". I'd like to read it.  I believe it would be interesting.  It is classified, and hasn't been leaked.
 * If more WP:RS describe this classified document, or if it is leaked or declassified and released, I will do my best to draft neutral, properly referenced coverage of it in article space.
 * Meanwhile I would like to record the little bit that is currently known about the document, for if and when more is known about it.
 * I would welcome clarification as to why anyone would regard this subpage as problematic.
 * }
 * I would welcome clarification as to why anyone would regard this subpage as problematic.
 * }

I haven't looked at all your responses yet, but one at least makes me worried about your honesty and/or knowledge of BLP policies. You state about User:Geo Swan/Guantanamo/Abdul Zahir charges: "I would welcome clarification as to why anyone would regard this subpage as problematic." At the time I mentioned it to you, it looked like this, and could easily have been deleted as a G10 negative unsourced BLP article. It did not contain a single source, and wass clearly negative and one-sided in tone. That you can't see why someone would regard this as problematic is very worrying. Your comment you posted at the current page, "It has been suggested that this page of notes does not comply with WP:User pages. I don't understand how it lapses from WP:User pages, and will ask the individual making this suggestion for a fuller explanation", while at the same time removing all previous contents from this page, is disingenious. In the future, I will not bother anymore with asking you about some pages, but will either delete the BLP violations, or nominate the other ones for MfD again. Fram (talk) 08:09, 4 November 2010 (UTC)
 * Note: a number of these pages are now up for MfD, you can find them in todays MfD log. Fram (talk) 11:11, 4 November 2010 (UTC)

MfD nomination of User:Geo Swan/gitmo/Omar Deghayes
User:Geo Swan/gitmo/Omar Deghayes, a page you substantially contributed to, has been nominated for deletion. Your opinions on the matter are welcome; please participate in the discussion by adding your comments at Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/User:Geo Swan/gitmo/Omar Deghayes and please be sure to sign your comments with four tildes ( ~ ). You are free to edit the content of User:Geo Swan/gitmo/Omar Deghayes during the discussion but should not remove the miscellany for deletion template from the top of the page; such a removal will not end the deletion discussion. Thank you. IQinn (talk) 07:30, 4 November 2010 (UTC)

Talk:Kart Barwan guesthouse listed at Redirects for discussion
An editor has asked for a discussion to address the redirect Talk:Kart Barwan guesthouse. Since you had some involvement with the Talk:Kart Barwan guesthouse redirect, you might want to participate in the redirect discussion (if you have not already done so). IQinn (talk) 08:00, 4 November 2010 (UTC)

MfD nomination of User:Geo Swan/Guantanamo/attempts to delete GWOT articles I have started
User:Geo Swan/Guantanamo/attempts to delete GWOT articles I have started, a page you substantially contributed to, has been nominated for deletion. Your opinions on the matter are welcome; please participate in the discussion by adding your comments at Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/User:Geo Swan/Guantanamo/attempts to delete GWOT articles I have started and please be sure to sign your comments with four tildes ( ~ ). You are free to edit the content of User:Geo Swan/Guantanamo/attempts to delete GWOT articles I have started during the discussion but should not remove the miscellany for deletion template from the top of the page; such a removal will not end the deletion discussion. Thank you. IQinn (talk) 13:40, 4 November 2010 (UTC)

2 negative unsourced BLPs, one copyright violation, and 5 MfDs
I have deleted User:Geo Swan/Guantanamo/Bagram captives/Mohibullah and User:Geo Swan/Guantanamo/Bounty programs/Rewards for justice as unsourced negative BLPs. I have deleted User:Geo Swan/Guantanamo/Brookings lists of released captives as a clear copyright violation. I have nominated a further five pages from your user space for deletion at WP:MFD. Fram (talk) 09:32, 5 November 2010 (UTC)


 * I request you email me the source of these three subpages.


 * Have you read Feist v. Rural? It is a SCOTUS ruling.  Facts are copyrightable.  Lists of facts are copyrightable -- in certain limited circumstance.  They can be copyrightable, if, for instance, the individual or organization has inserted a creative spark in its compiling of the list.


 * The SCOTUS has rejected the sweat of the brow rationale for granting copyright. Other nations, like Australia, do honor the sweat of the brow rationale for granting copyright.  But the wikipedia`s servers are in the USA, and US law applies.  In general lists of facts are not copyrightable, for our purposes.


 * So, are you arguing that the Brookings Institute introduced the creative spark necessary for them to be granted copyright for their list? If so did you closely compare to see if I altered the formatting, or introduced comments of my own in User:Geo Swan/Guantanamo/Brookings lists of released captives?  My understanding of the Feist v. Rural SCOTUS ruling is that in those limited circumstances when a list compiler has introduced a creative spark in their compilation of the list only copies that exactly follow their formatting are protected by copyright.


 * Yes, I understand you want me to address your concerns. I am going to repeat that I believe I am entitled to the assumption of good faith.  It seems to me that in your comment yesterday on your talk page you told me you were no longer going to extend to me the assumption of good faith.  I am going to repeat that I therefore request you recuse yourself and confine yourself to using the ordinary channels open to all wikipedia contributors, and refrain from exercising administrator authority over your concerns with my contributions.


 * Further, I think you are being overly hasty, in general. XFD are time consuming to address.  Some of your concerns have not been endorsed by the community.  I request you pause, and wait out all the XFD you have already initiated.  Geo Swan (talk) 15:28, 5 November 2010 (UTC)


 * Considering the massive amount of fake articles you have in your userspace, waiting for previous MfD's to finish before starting any new ones is not a good solution. I am not going to mail you anything, I am not going to waste more of my time on these hopeless articles. And while the contents of a list may be copyrightfree, the actual structure isn't. Your page was a pure, direct and very blatant copy of that list, including all the comments they added, e.g. "Representation by Andy Worthington, 8/25/2008. Worthington’s deduction was based on analysis of an Arab News article. Note: The New York Times report, “The Guantanamo Docket” does not list a status for Al Hizani." You are free to bring this (and any other deletion) to WP:DRV to argue that the exact copying of such text does not constitute a copyright violation. But reaching the conclusion that it was a G12 speedy candidate has nothing to do with assuming good or bad faith, buit only with follwoing policies. The only thing were I no longer assume good faith with you is that you are genuinely working on cleaning your userspace from all problematic pages, and not just from those you no longer need. Thepages I nominated were all at least one year old, and most were three year old. Asking for more time again is not really convincing. By the way, why is it that every time you make a mistake, like accusing me of ignoring repeated requests from you in an MFD, or claiming that "Joseph Djugvali" was the birth name of Stalin and a plausible redirect and thus suggesting that my celetion of that redirect was incorrect, you fail to follow up my replies but just ignores such gaffes? Why would I bother even responding to you anymore if all you do is stonewalling and casting aspersions of bad faith and misuse of admin tools, without any evidence to back this up, while at the same time trying to defend blatant copyvios ad ignoring the severe BLP issues your userspace has? Isn't it perhaps time that you started cleaninng out your own stable, instead of looking for faults in other people's actions? Fram (talk) 15:49, 5 November 2010 (UTC)

Talkback
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MfD nomination of User:Geo Swan/Guantanamo/not ready yet/Ijaz Khan
User:Geo Swan/Guantanamo/not ready yet/Ijaz Khan, a page you substantially contributed to, has been nominated for deletion. Your opinions on the matter are welcome; please participate in the discussion by adding your comments at Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/User:Geo Swan/Guantanamo/not ready yet/Ijaz Khan and please be sure to sign your comments with four tildes ( ~ ). You are free to edit the content of User:Geo Swan/Guantanamo/not ready yet/Ijaz Khan during the discussion but should not remove the miscellany for deletion template from the top of the page; such a removal will not end the deletion discussion. Thank you. IQinn (talk) 10:02, 8 November 2010 (UTC)

MfD nomination of User:Geo Swan/Guantanamo/not ready yet/walid bin attash
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MfD nomination of User:Geo Swan/working/Nadja Dizdarevic
User:Geo Swan/working/Nadja Dizdarevic, a page you substantially contributed to, has been nominated for deletion. Your opinions on the matter are welcome; please participate in the discussion by adding your comments at Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/User:Geo Swan/working/Nadja Dizdarevic and please be sure to sign your comments with four tildes ( ~ ). You are free to edit the content of User:Geo Swan/working/Nadja Dizdarevic during the discussion but should not remove the miscellany for deletion template from the top of the page; such a removal will not end the deletion discussion. Thank you. IQinn (talk) 10:14, 8 November 2010 (UTC)

MfD nomination of User:Geo Swan/Guantanamo/training camps/Al Khair Camp
User:Geo Swan/Guantanamo/training camps/Al Khair Camp, a page you substantially contributed to, has been nominated for deletion. Your opinions on the matter are welcome; please participate in the discussion by adding your comments at Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/User:Geo Swan/Guantanamo/training camps/Al Khair Camp and please be sure to sign your comments with four tildes ( ~ ). You are free to edit the content of User:Geo Swan/Guantanamo/training camps/Al Khair Camp during the discussion but should not remove the miscellany for deletion template from the top of the page; such a removal will not end the deletion discussion. Thank you. IQinn (talk) 10:46, 8 November 2010 (UTC)

MfD nomination of User:Geo Swan/Guantanamo/review/Abdul Haq (Uighur camp leader)
User:Geo Swan/Guantanamo/review/Abdul Haq (Uighur camp leader), a page you substantially contributed to, has been nominated for deletion. Your opinions on the matter are welcome; please participate in the discussion by adding your comments at Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/User:Geo Swan/Guantanamo/review/Abdul Haq (Uighur camp leader) and please be sure to sign your comments with four tildes ( ~ ). You are free to edit the content of User:Geo Swan/Guantanamo/review/Abdul Haq (Uighur camp leader) during the discussion but should not remove the miscellany for deletion template from the top of the page; such a removal will not end the deletion discussion. Thank you. IQinn (talk) 10:54, 8 November 2010 (UTC)

4 MFDs, two BLP G10 deletions
I have nominated four pages from your user space for deletion, you can find them in today's MfD log. I have also nominated two totally unsourced lists of BLP names with negative or contentious page titles about them, i.e. User:Geo Swan/Guantanamo/Guantanamo captives alleged to have been OBL bodyguards and User:Geo Swan/Guantanamo/Guantanamo captives alleged to have ties to Taliban intelligence, both over three years old. As they are BLP violations, I will not send the article source to you if you would request this. You are free to ask this from other admins of course, or to bring it to WP:DRV. Fram (talk) 11:16, 8 November 2010 (UTC)

Nomination of Abdalhadi M. Al-Sopai for deletion
A discussion has begun about whether the article Abdalhadi M. Al-Sopai, which you created or to which you contributed, should be deleted. While contributions are welcome, an article may be deleted if it is inconsistent with Wikipedia policies and guidelines for inclusion, explained in the deletion policy.

The article will be discussed at Articles for deletion/Abdalhadi M. Al-Sopai until a consensus is reached, and you are welcome to contribute to the discussion.

You may edit the article during the discussion, including to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion template from the top of the article. IQinn (talk) 00:59, 9 November 2010 (UTC)

MfD nomination of User:Geo Swan/gitmo/Sadeq Muhammad Sa'id Ismail
User:Geo Swan/gitmo/Sadeq Muhammad Sa'id Ismail, a page you substantially contributed to, has been nominated for deletion. Your opinions on the matter are welcome; please participate in the discussion by adding your comments at Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/User:Geo Swan/gitmo/Sadeq Muhammad Sa'id Ismail and please be sure to sign your comments with four tildes ( ~ ). You are free to edit the content of User:Geo Swan/gitmo/Sadeq Muhammad Sa'id Ismail during the discussion but should not remove the miscellany for deletion template from the top of the page; such a removal will not end the deletion discussion. Thank you. IQinn (talk) 02:12, 9 November 2010 (UTC)

MfD nomination of User:Geo Swan/gitmo/Mohammed Sadiq
User:Geo Swan/gitmo/Mohammed Sadiq, a page you substantially contributed to, has been nominated for deletion. Your opinions on the matter are welcome; please participate in the discussion by adding your comments at Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/User:Geo Swan/gitmo/Mohammed Sadiq and please be sure to sign your comments with four tildes ( ~ ). You are free to edit the content of User:Geo Swan/gitmo/Mohammed Sadiq during the discussion but should not remove the miscellany for deletion template from the top of the page; such a removal will not end the deletion discussion. Thank you. IQinn (talk) 02:50, 9 November 2010 (UTC)

2 MFDs, three BLP G10 deletions
I have nominated two pages from your userspace for MfD. They can be found in today's MfD log. I have also speedy deleted as BLP vilations three pages: User:Geo Swan/Guantanamo/Guantanamo cat population, User:Geo Swan/Guantanamo/Guantanamo cat population/TalibanBounty, and User:Geo Swan/Guantanamo/Guantanamo cat population/Alleged Osama bin Laden bodyguard. Keeping old versions of categories around has the clear disadvantage that any corretion that happens in the mainspace, is not reflected in your page, making the inclusion of incorrect or outdated info much more likely. Coupled with the nature of these cats (contentious info about BLPs), I have speedy deleted them. It may be a good idea to take a look at all pages in the User:Geo Swan/Guantanamo/Guantanamo cat population/ series, as they all suffer the same problem, but with less severe BLP problems. Fram (talk) 13:21, 9 November 2010 (UTC)

Michael Welner
As you were trying to edit the Welner article, I am hoping you can contribute to discussion and editing now that it has been un-protected. Mr.Grantevans2 (talk) 15:11, 9 November 2010 (UTC)

MfD nomination of User:Geo Swan/Guantanamo/Guantanamo force feedings
User:Geo Swan/Guantanamo/Guantanamo force feedings, a page you substantially contributed to, has been nominated for deletion. Your opinions on the matter are welcome; please participate in the discussion by adding your comments at Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/User:Geo Swan/Guantanamo/Guantanamo force feedings and please be sure to sign your comments with four tildes ( ~ ). You are free to edit the content of User:Geo Swan/Guantanamo/Guantanamo force feedings during the discussion but should not remove the miscellany for deletion template from the top of the page; such a removal will not end the deletion discussion. Thank you. IQinn (talk) 20:59, 9 November 2010 (UTC)

MfD nomination of User:Geo Swan/Guantanamo/not ready yet/Hamoodullah Khan
User:Geo Swan/Guantanamo/not ready yet/Hamoodullah Khan, a page you substantially contributed to, has been nominated for deletion. Your opinions on the matter are welcome; please participate in the discussion by adding your comments at Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/User:Geo Swan/Guantanamo/not ready yet/Hamoodullah Khan and please be sure to sign your comments with four tildes ( ~ ). You are free to edit the content of User:Geo Swan/Guantanamo/not ready yet/Hamoodullah Khan during the discussion but should not remove the miscellany for deletion template from the top of the page; such a removal will not end the deletion discussion. Thank you. IQinn (talk) 22:02, 9 November 2010 (UTC)

MfD nomination of User:Geo Swan/Guantanamo/not ready yet/Israr ul Haq
User:Geo Swan/Guantanamo/not ready yet/Israr ul Haq, a page you substantially contributed to, has been nominated for deletion. Your opinions on the matter are welcome; please participate in the discussion by adding your comments at Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/User:Geo Swan/Guantanamo/not ready yet/Israr ul Haq and please be sure to sign your comments with four tildes ( ~ ). You are free to edit the content of User:Geo Swan/Guantanamo/not ready yet/Israr ul Haq during the discussion but should not remove the miscellany for deletion template from the top of the page; such a removal will not end the deletion discussion. Thank you. IQinn (talk) 22:16, 9 November 2010 (UTC)

MfD nomination of User:Geo Swan/Guantanamo/not ready yet/Noor Habib
User:Geo Swan/Guantanamo/not ready yet/Noor Habib, a page you substantially contributed to, has been nominated for deletion. Your opinions on the matter are welcome; please participate in the discussion by adding your comments at Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/User:Geo Swan/Guantanamo/not ready yet/Noor Habib and please be sure to sign your comments with four tildes ( ~ ). You are free to edit the content of User:Geo Swan/Guantanamo/not ready yet/Noor Habib during the discussion but should not remove the miscellany for deletion template from the top of the page; such a removal will not end the deletion discussion. Thank you. IQinn (talk) 22:27, 9 November 2010 (UTC)

Reviewing Geo Swan's use of userspace.
See comment at Wikipedia_talk:Miscellany_for_deletion. --SmokeyJoe (talk) 22:39, 9 November 2010 (UTC)

MfD nomination of User:Geo Swan/Guantanamo/not ready yet/Tariq Khan
User:Geo Swan/Guantanamo/not ready yet/Tariq Khan, a page you substantially contributed to, has been nominated for deletion. Your opinions on the matter are welcome; please participate in the discussion by adding your comments at Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/User:Geo Swan/Guantanamo/not ready yet/Tariq Khan and please be sure to sign your comments with four tildes ( ~ ). You are free to edit the content of User:Geo Swan/Guantanamo/not ready yet/Tariq Khan during the discussion but should not remove the miscellany for deletion template from the top of the page; such a removal will not end the deletion discussion. Thank you. IQinn (talk) 22:42, 9 November 2010 (UTC)

3 MFD nominations
I have nominated three pages from your userspace for deletion. You can find them at today's MfD log. Fram (talk) 10:57, 10 November 2010 (UTC)

MfD nomination of User:Geo Swan/Guantanamo/Guantanamo captives medical care
User:Geo Swan/Guantanamo/Guantanamo captives medical care, a page you substantially contributed to, has been nominated for deletion. Your opinions on the matter are welcome; please participate in the discussion by adding your comments at Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/User:Geo Swan/Guantanamo/Guantanamo captives medical care and please be sure to sign your comments with four tildes ( ~ ). You are free to edit the content of User:Geo Swan/Guantanamo/Guantanamo captives medical care during the discussion but should not remove the miscellany for deletion template from the top of the page; such a removal will not end the deletion discussion. Thank you. IQinn (talk) 02:28, 11 November 2010 (UTC)

MfD nomination of User:Geo Swan/gitmo/Mohammed Saghir
User:Geo Swan/gitmo/Mohammed Saghir, a page you substantially contributed to, has been nominated for deletion. Your opinions on the matter are welcome; please participate in the discussion by adding your comments at Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/User:Geo Swan/gitmo/Mohammed Saghir and please be sure to sign your comments with four tildes ( ~ ). You are free to edit the content of User:Geo Swan/gitmo/Mohammed Saghir during the discussion but should not remove the miscellany for deletion template from the top of the page; such a removal will not end the deletion discussion. Thank you. IQinn (talk) 02:32, 11 November 2010 (UTC)

MfD nomination of User:Geo Swan/Guantanamo/training camps/Camp Nine (Afghanistan training camp)
User:Geo Swan/Guantanamo/training camps/Camp Nine (Afghanistan training camp), a page you substantially contributed to, has been nominated for deletion. Your opinions on the matter are welcome; please participate in the discussion by adding your comments at Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/User:Geo Swan/Guantanamo/training camps/Camp Nine (Afghanistan training camp) and please be sure to sign your comments with four tildes ( ~ ). You are free to edit the content of User:Geo Swan/Guantanamo/training camps/Camp Nine (Afghanistan training camp) during the discussion but should not remove the miscellany for deletion template from the top of the page; such a removal will not end the deletion discussion. Thank you. IQinn (talk) 02:45, 11 November 2010 (UTC)

4 MfD nominations, one G10 BLP deletion
I have nominated four pages from your userspace at today's MfD log. I have also speedy deleted User:Geo Swan/Guantanamo/rescue/Muhammad Rahim as a totally unsourced negative WP:BLP. Feel free to take it to WP:DRV of course. Fram (talk) 10:44, 12 November 2010 (UTC)

Nomination of Bostan v. Bush for deletion
A discussion has begun about whether the article Bostan v. Bush, which you created or to which you contributed, should be deleted. While contributions are welcome, an article may be deleted if it is inconsistent with Wikipedia policies and guidelines for inclusion, explained in the deletion policy.

The article will be discussed at Articles for deletion/Bostan v. Bush until a consensus is reached, and you are welcome to contribute to the discussion.

You may edit the article during the discussion, including to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion template from the top of the article.. Fram (talk) 15:01, 12 November 2010 (UTC)

MfD nomination of User:Geo Swan/Guantanamo/other articles that aren't ready yet/Abd Al Rahman Abdullah Ali Muhammad
User:Geo Swan/Guantanamo/other articles that aren't ready yet/Abd Al Rahman Abdullah Ali Muhammad, a page you substantially contributed to, has been nominated for deletion. Your opinions on the matter are welcome; please participate in the discussion by adding your comments at Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/User:Geo Swan/Guantanamo/other articles that aren't ready yet/Abd Al Rahman Abdullah Ali Muhammad and please be sure to sign your comments with four tildes ( ~ ). You are free to edit the content of User:Geo Swan/Guantanamo/other articles that aren't ready yet/Abd Al Rahman Abdullah Ali Muhammad during the discussion but should not remove the miscellany for deletion template from the top of the page; such a removal will not end the deletion discussion. Thank you. IQinn (talk) 16:26, 14 November 2010 (UTC)

MfD nomination of User:Geo Swan/Guantanamo/other articles that aren't ready yet/Andy Worthington
User:Geo Swan/Guantanamo/other articles that aren't ready yet/Andy Worthington, a page you substantially contributed to, has been nominated for deletion. Your opinions on the matter are welcome; please participate in the discussion by adding your comments at Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/User:Geo Swan/Guantanamo/other articles that aren't ready yet/Andy Worthington and please be sure to sign your comments with four tildes ( ~ ). You are free to edit the content of User:Geo Swan/Guantanamo/other articles that aren't ready yet/Andy Worthington during the discussion but should not remove the miscellany for deletion template from the top of the page; such a removal will not end the deletion discussion. Thank you. IQinn (talk) 16:32, 14 November 2010 (UTC)

MfD nomination of User:Geo Swan/Guantanamo/not ready yet/Wissam Abdul Ahmad
User:Geo Swan/Guantanamo/not ready yet/Wissam Abdul Ahmad, a page you substantially contributed to, has been nominated for deletion. Your opinions on the matter are welcome; please participate in the discussion by adding your comments at Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/User:Geo Swan/Guantanamo/not ready yet/Wissam Abdul Ahmad and please be sure to sign your comments with four tildes ( ~ ). You are free to edit the content of User:Geo Swan/Guantanamo/not ready yet/Wissam Abdul Ahmad during the discussion but should not remove the miscellany for deletion template from the top of the page; such a removal will not end the deletion discussion. Thank you. IQinn (talk) 16:37, 14 November 2010 (UTC)

MfD nomination of User:Geo Swan/Guantanamo/So called "dirty thirty"
User:Geo Swan/Guantanamo/So called "dirty thirty", a page you substantially contributed to, has been nominated for deletion. Your opinions on the matter are welcome; please participate in the discussion by adding your comments at Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/User:Geo Swan/Guantanamo/So called "dirty thirty" and please be sure to sign your comments with four tildes ( ~ ). You are free to edit the content of User:Geo Swan/Guantanamo/So called "dirty thirty" during the discussion but should not remove the miscellany for deletion template from the top of the page; such a removal will not end the deletion discussion. Thank you. IQinn (talk) 16:58, 14 November 2010 (UTC)

MfD nomination of User:Geo Swan/gitmo/Nasir Ahmad Nasir al-Bahri
User:Geo Swan/gitmo/Nasir Ahmad Nasir al-Bahri, a page you substantially contributed to, has been nominated for deletion. Your opinions on the matter are welcome; please participate in the discussion by adding your comments at Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/User:Geo Swan/gitmo/Nasir Ahmad Nasir al-Bahri and please be sure to sign your comments with four tildes ( ~ ). You are free to edit the content of User:Geo Swan/gitmo/Nasir Ahmad Nasir al-Bahri during the discussion but should not remove the miscellany for deletion template from the top of the page; such a removal will not end the deletion discussion. Thank you. IQinn (talk) 17:00, 14 November 2010 (UTC)

MfD nomination of User:Geo Swan/Guantanamo/not ready yet/Israr ul Haq 2
User:Geo Swan/Guantanamo/not ready yet/Israr ul Haq 2, a page you substantially contributed to, has been nominated for deletion. Your opinions on the matter are welcome; please participate in the discussion by adding your comments at Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/User:Geo Swan/Guantanamo/not ready yet/Israr ul Haq 2 and please be sure to sign your comments with four tildes ( ~ ). You are free to edit the content of User:Geo Swan/Guantanamo/not ready yet/Israr ul Haq 2 during the discussion but should not remove the miscellany for deletion template from the top of the page; such a removal will not end the deletion discussion. Thank you. IQinn (talk) 17:05, 14 November 2010 (UTC)

MfD nomination of User:Geo Swan/Guantanamo/not ready yet/Saji Ur Rahman
User:Geo Swan/Guantanamo/not ready yet/Saji Ur Rahman, a page you substantially contributed to, has been nominated for deletion. Your opinions on the matter are welcome; please participate in the discussion by adding your comments at Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/User:Geo Swan/Guantanamo/not ready yet/Saji Ur Rahman and please be sure to sign your comments with four tildes ( ~ ). You are free to edit the content of User:Geo Swan/Guantanamo/not ready yet/Saji Ur Rahman during the discussion but should not remove the miscellany for deletion template from the top of the page; such a removal will not end the deletion discussion. Thank you. IQinn (talk) 17:09, 14 November 2010 (UTC)

MfD nomination of User:Geo Swan/Guantanamo/other articles that aren't ready yet/Hani Abdullah
User:Geo Swan/Guantanamo/other articles that aren't ready yet/Hani Abdullah, a page you substantially contributed to, has been nominated for deletion. Your opinions on the matter are welcome; please participate in the discussion by adding your comments at Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/User:Geo Swan/Guantanamo/other articles that aren't ready yet/Hani Abdullah and please be sure to sign your comments with four tildes ( ~ ). You are free to edit the content of User:Geo Swan/Guantanamo/other articles that aren't ready yet/Hani Abdullah during the discussion but should not remove the miscellany for deletion template from the top of the page; such a removal will not end the deletion discussion. Thank you. IQinn (talk) 17:16, 14 November 2010 (UTC)

MfD nomination of User:Geo Swan/Guantanamo/not ready yet/Hafiz Liaqat Manzoor
User:Geo Swan/Guantanamo/not ready yet/Hafiz Liaqat Manzoor, a page you substantially contributed to, has been nominated for deletion. Your opinions on the matter are welcome; please participate in the discussion by adding your comments at Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/User:Geo Swan/Guantanamo/not ready yet/Hafiz Liaqat Manzoor and please be sure to sign your comments with four tildes ( ~ ). You are free to edit the content of User:Geo Swan/Guantanamo/not ready yet/Hafiz Liaqat Manzoor during the discussion but should not remove the miscellany for deletion template from the top of the page; such a removal will not end the deletion discussion. Thank you. IQinn (talk) 17:19, 14 November 2010 (UTC)

MfD nomination of User:Geo Swan/gitmo/Ruhal Ahmed
User:Geo Swan/gitmo/Ruhal Ahmed, a page you substantially contributed to, has been nominated for deletion. Your opinions on the matter are welcome; please participate in the discussion by adding your comments at Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/User:Geo Swan/gitmo/Ruhal Ahmed and please be sure to sign your comments with four tildes ( ~ ). You are free to edit the content of User:Geo Swan/gitmo/Ruhal Ahmed during the discussion but should not remove the miscellany for deletion template from the top of the page; such a removal will not end the deletion discussion. Thank you. IQinn (talk) 17:23, 14 November 2010 (UTC)

5 MFD nominations
I have nominated five pages from your userspace, four of them for extremely similar pages, for deletion. You can find them in today's MfD log. Fram (talk) 09:30, 15 November 2010 (UTC)

Nomination of Mahazamili for deletion
A discussion has begun about whether the article Mahazamili, which you created or to which you contributed, should be deleted. While contributions are welcome, an article may be deleted if it is inconsistent with Wikipedia policies and guidelines for inclusion, explained in the deletion policy.

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Abu Obeida training camp at AfD
I have nominated Abu Obeida training camp for deletion. Fram (talk) 16:36, 16 November 2010 (UTC)


 * A discussion about a possible RfC/U about you is being discussed at User talk:Cunard. Cunard (talk) 23:29, 16 November 2010 (UTC)

2 MfD's
I have started two MfD's on pages in your userspace yesterday. Due to other circumstances, I wasn't able to notify you of those at that time. You can find them in yesterday's MfD log. Fram (talk) 07:27, 18 November 2010 (UTC)

User:Geo Swan/db-author requests
Thank you for continuing the housekeeping of your userspace and for documenting your work at User:Geo Swan/db-author requests. Because of your good faith efforts, I don't believe filing an RfC/U is necessary. Cunard (talk) 08:46, 18 November 2010 (UTC)

Lahore
Hi..are you still interested in publishing the Lahore safe house article? I think it's sufficient to replace the redirect now. Mar4d (talk) 10:19, 18 November 2010 (UTC)

5 Mfds and an AfD
I have listed five pages from your userspace for MfD today. You can find them at today's MfD log. I have also nominated Mohammed Ibrahim (Taliban Deputy Director of Intelligence) for deletion at AfD. Fram (talk) 12:51, 18 November 2010 (UTC)

2 MfDs and an AfD
There are two more MfDs in todays log concerning pages in your user space. I have also nominated an article you created for deletion at Articles for deletion/Fawaz Abd Al Aziz Al Zahrani. Fram (talk) 15:20, 19 November 2010 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/User:Geo Swan/Talat Hamdani
If you add 50 more characters or so, Talat Hamdani will be DYK-eligible. / ƒETCH COMMS  /  21:00, 21 November 2010 (UTC)

3 MfDs, one G10 speedy, and one AFD
I have listed three pages from your userspace at today's MfD log. I have also speedy deleted User:Geo Swan/Iraqi civilian deaths by the 27th Infantry Regiment, February 2004 as a totally unsourced page from March 2010 containing very serious allegations against living persons (two named US soldiers reportedly shooting unarmed civilians) and nothing else. I have also nominated Ali Sher Hamidullah for deletion. Fram (talk) 11:47, 22 November 2010 (UTC)

3 MfDs and an AfD
I have nominated three pages from your userspace for deletion through MfD. Yuo can find them in todays MfD log. I have also nominated one article for deletion at Articles for deletion/Ghulam Mohammed v. Donald Rumsfeld. Fram (talk) 11:01, 23 November 2010 (UTC)

MfD nomination of User:Geo Swan/working/iq by 500/dehumanizing
User:Geo Swan/working/iq by 500/dehumanizing, a page you substantially contributed to, has been nominated for deletion. Your opinions on the matter are welcome; please participate in the discussion by adding your comments at Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/User:Geo Swan/working/iq by 500/dehumanizing and please be sure to sign your comments with four tildes ( ~ ). You are free to edit the content of User:Geo Swan/working/iq by 500/dehumanizing during the discussion but should not remove the miscellany for deletion template from the top of the page; such a removal will not end the deletion discussion. Thank you. IQinn (talk) 07:34, 24 November 2010 (UTC)

MfD nomination of User:Geo Swan/Guantanamo/training camps/Camp Thabit
User:Geo Swan/Guantanamo/training camps/Camp Thabit, a page you substantially contributed to, has been nominated for deletion. Your opinions on the matter are welcome; please participate in the discussion by adding your comments at Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/User:Geo Swan/Guantanamo/training camps/Camp Thabit and please be sure to sign your comments with four tildes ( ~ ). You are free to edit the content of User:Geo Swan/Guantanamo/training camps/Camp Thabit during the discussion but should not remove the miscellany for deletion template from the top of the page; such a removal will not end the deletion discussion. Thank you. IQinn (talk) 07:59, 24 November 2010 (UTC)

2 Afds
The pages Abdul Haq (Taliban leader, 2005) and June 10th Suicides at Guantánamo are up for AfD. Fram (talk) 15:44, 24 November 2010 (UTC)

MfD for three pages, and 2 AfDs
I have nominted three pages in one MfD at today's MfD log. I have also nominated Issam Hamid Al Bin Ali Al Jayfi and Faizullah (Guantanamo detainee 919) for deletion at AfD. Fram (talk) 10:45, 25 November 2010 (UTC)

4 MfDs
I have nominated four pages from your userspace for deletion. You can find them in today's MfD log. Fram (talk) 14:44, 26 November 2010 (UTC)

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3 MfDs and one AfD
Three new MfDs on pages in your userspace are listed at today's MfD log. The article Fazaldad is at AfD. Fram (talk) 15:43, 29 November 2010 (UTC)

Nomination of Sharon D. Allen (OARDEC) for deletion
A discussion has begun about whether the article Sharon D. Allen (OARDEC), which you created or to which you contributed, should be deleted. While contributions are welcome, an article may be deleted if it is inconsistent with Wikipedia policies and guidelines for inclusion, explained in the deletion policy.

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Nomination of Sharon D. Allen (author) for deletion
A discussion has begun about whether the article Sharon D. Allen (author), which you created or to which you contributed, should be deleted. While contributions are welcome, an article may be deleted if it is inconsistent with Wikipedia policies and guidelines for inclusion, explained in the deletion policy.

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