User talk:Geo Swan/archive/2010-September

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Your message on my talk page
Thank you. IQinn (talk) 00:10, 6 September 2010 (UTC)

File source problem with File:Note-2-backlink-a.png
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File source problem with File:Ref-1-context a.png
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File source problem with File:Ref-2-context-a.png
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Talkback
You have  new messages ( last change ).  — fetch ·  comms   00:11, 8 September 2010 (UTC)

File:Ashley-kirilow.jpg listed for deletion
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Notes vs drafts
I have left a message for the templator, in it I deprecate this particular use of Userspace draft. I also say "There might be value in finding or creating a Userspace notes template, or in Geo using a group notice on his pages, but now that is drawn to his attention, I suggest you leave it to him. "

Rgds, Rich Farmbrough, 17:24, 15 September 2010 (UTC).
 * Template:Editnotices/Group/User:Geo Swan will appear at the top of all your user pages (and Template:Editnotices/Group/User talk:Geo Swan for your user talk pages) - that is what I meant by "a group notice". I would keep that short and succinct and link to the text you just created, for more detail something like "These user pages may contain working notes and historical material not suitable for article space, and do not purport to encyclopedic values. For more detail see..." Rich Farmbrough, 18:42, 15 September 2010 (UTC).
 * I also created the notes template:


 * Rich Farmbrough, 18:42, 15 September 2010 (UTC).


 * Thanks. I was not familiar with this feature.  When I tried to edit that page it said I was not authorized to do so.  I think I have figured out what I would like, for starters anyhow. Can you  suggest what I need to do to get access to edit the page?  Or, if it simpler, could you put the following in there?
 * {| class="wikitable"


 * You are editing rough notes, in user-space, not a wikipedia article. It has not been subjected to the same scrutiny, or written to the same standards as an actual wikipedia article.  See User:Geo Swan/An introduction to the notes on subpages under User:Geo Swan for more details.
 * You are editing rough notes, in user-space, not a wikipedia article. It has not been subjected to the same scrutiny, or written to the same standards as an actual wikipedia article.  See User:Geo Swan/An introduction to the notes on subpages under User:Geo Swan for more details.


 * }
 * Thanks again. Geo Swan (talk) 19:06, 15 September 2010 (UTC)

Please be careful
In reply to your recent message on my talk page. You carelessly uploaded an image of a person and added it to the article Calvin Gibbs. The person in the image was not Calvin Gibbs and i removed it. Please be more careful in the future and please do not blame other for your mistakes. Controversial edit? That is laughable. IQinn (talk) 23:15, 16 September 2010 (UTC)

Possibly unfree File:Adam Winfield, charged with premeditated murder at FOB Ramrod, Kandahar.jpg
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copyright
Wikipedia takes copyright policy very seriously. Please take care, we do not need to have a picture in our articles, non free images in a BLP are pretty much a no no, also take care with claims of PD, pretty pictures are nice but we need strong clear free to use media or it is more trouble than it is worth, adding of files that belong to people can diminish that pictures value immensely, please take care with copyright. Off2riorob (talk) 14:51, 20 September 2010 (UTC)


 * As I wrote on the recent discussion, I am going to assume you were in a hurry, and you failed to notice that the Washington Post explicitly credited the US Army.


 * I think I already take copyright seriously, thank you.


 * I am going to take the liberty of disagreeing with you on several points.


 * 1) In my opinion relevant images, add to the value of our articles.  If you think you can explain why they do not, I'd be very interested in reading that explanation.
 * 2) WRT your assertion that fair use images in biographies "pretty much a no no" -- are you able o cite a wikidocument that backs up this view?
 * 3) WRT "more trouble than it is worth"?  I found this portion of your note unclear.


 * I am going to close with a request. Could you consider avoiding the use of dismissive terms like "pretty pictures"?  We are supposed to have real discussions, civil, collegial discussions, where we really consider the possibility that we are wrong, and our correspondents are correct, or are making valid points.  I suggest that the use of dismissive terms like "pretty pictures" can give the unfortunate appearance that you have a closed mind, and are not really prepared to consider that one's correspondent can offer valid counter-points.  Geo Swan (talk) 22:04, 20 September 2010 (UTC)

Orphaned non-free image File:Calvin Gibbs, from his high school yearbook, via the Washington Post.jpg
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How to challenge File:Calvin Gibbs, from his high school yearbook, via the Washington Post.jpg ‎
Off2riorob cut and paste a message I left on User talk:Off2riorob about a fair use image they characterized as a copyvio, and placed my comments here.

In the interests of prevening confusion I have cut my original comments, leaving only their reply, which I have indented, as per our talk page conventions. Geo Swan (talk) 21:44, 23 September 2010 (UTC)


 * I have removed it again, please don't replace it, is is a non fee image in a BLP when go getting one is totally an option. Please be aware that disputed images in BLP should better be removed while the issue is resolved. Off2riorob (talk) 21:05, 23 September 2010 (UTC)


 * Non free content is a good start and this is a bit more specific NFC - Please be aware that commenting here and there and me not replying is a likely sign that I have not seen the post, I recommend if you want to discuss anything with me, please contact me on my talkpage to guarantee I see it, regards. Off2riorob (talk) 21:24, 23 September 2010 (UTC)

Nomination of Benjamin G. Davis for deletion
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Nomination of Associated Press library of Guantanamo Bay detainee dossiers for deletion
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Proposed deletion of Abdul Haq (Northern Alliance translator)


The article Abdul Haq (Northern Alliance translator) has been proposed for deletion&#32; because of the following concern:
 * Fails WP:N and WP:BLP1E. Someone without any information about him, who is named in one document about one incident.

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Nomination of Riad (al-Qaeda host) for deletion
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Nomination of Amran Baqur Mohammed Hawsawi for deletion
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Nomination of Abdul Hakim Jan (Argandab druglord) for deletion
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