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Nomination of Abdul Wahab (detainee) for deletion
A discussion is taking place as to whether the article Abdul Wahab (detainee) is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The article will be discussed at Articles for deletion/Abdul Wahab (detainee) until a consensus is reached, and anyone is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on good quality evidence, and our policies and guidelines.

Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion template from the top of the article. Anotherclown (talk) 07:36, 29 April 2011 (UTC)

File:Bat-canada.gif listed for deletion
A file that you uploaded or altered, File:Bat-canada.gif, has been listed at Files for deletion. Please see the to see why this is (you may have to search for the title of the image to find its entry), if you are interested in it not being deleted. XLerate (talk) 08:44, 2 May 2011 (UTC)

Orphaned non-free image File:Andrew purvis's sidebar -- 'The Suspects- A Bosnian subplot.png
 Thanks for uploading File:Andrew purvis's sidebar -- 'The Suspects- A Bosnian subplot.png. The image description page currently specifies that the image is non-free and may only be used on Wikipedia under a claim of fair use. However, the image is currently orphaned, meaning that it is not used in any articles on Wikipedia. If the image was previously in an article, please go to the article and see why it was removed. You may add it back if you think that that will be useful. However, please note that images for which a replacement could be created are not acceptable for use on Wikipedia (see our policy for non-free media).

If you have uploaded other unlicensed media, please check whether they're used in any articles or not. You can find a list of "file" pages you have edited by clicking on the "my contributions" link (it is located at the very top of any Wikipedia page when you are logged in), and then selecting "File" from the dropdown box. Note that any non-free images not used in any articles will be deleted after seven days, as described in the criteria for speedy deletion. Thank you. Courcelles 03:41, 5 May 2011 (UTC)

Another contributor's reply to my request WRT their use of the term "ad hominem"
Yesterday I left what I think was a civil request on another contributor's talk page. This contributor routinely erases any note I leave on their talk page. In recent months they cut and paste my original message from their talk page to my talk page. They routinely characterize my attempts to voice my concerns as "trolling", or reasonable equivalent. They did so again here: , .


 * 1) I am replacing their confusing cut and paste with this explanation.
 * 2) I am going to urge them to stop the disruptive process of cutting and pasting messages I left on their talk page to my talk page, as I consider it confusing to anyone reading my talk page.
 * 3) I am going to encourage them to actually make a good faith attempt to read messages left on their talk page.

Their brief reply follows. I believe it illustrates they didn't read the definition of "ad hominem" I brought to their attention, and will continue to misuse the term in future. Geo Swan (talk) 14:09, 6 May 2011 (UTC)


 * Stop using Ad hominem it simply waste our time. IQinn (talk) 03:20, 6 May 2011 (UTC)
 * I read it and you should stop Ad hominem and concentrate on the content. I guess it would really be the best you would agree to be mentored as the community suggest to you. It seems to be the case that you did not learn anything. IQinn (talk) 14:14, 6 May 2011 (UTC)

Orphaned non-free image File:Andrew purvis's sidebar -- 'The Suspects- A Bosnian subplot.png
 Thanks for uploading File:Andrew purvis's sidebar -- 'The Suspects- A Bosnian subplot.png. The image description page currently specifies that the image is non-free and may only be used on Wikipedia under a claim of fair use. However, the image is currently orphaned, meaning that it is not used in any articles on Wikipedia. If the image was previously in an article, please go to the article and see why it was removed. You may add it back if you think that that will be useful. However, please note that images for which a replacement could be created are not acceptable for use on Wikipedia (see our policy for non-free media).

If you have uploaded other unlicensed media, please check whether they're used in any articles or not. You can find a list of "file" pages you have edited by clicking on the "my contributions" link (it is located at the very top of any Wikipedia page when you are logged in), and then selecting "File" from the dropdown box. Note that any non-free images not used in any articles will be deleted after seven days, as described in the criteria for speedy deletion. Thank you. Courcelles 04:17, 7 May 2011 (UTC)

File:Icebreaker oden.png needs authorship information.
Dear uploader:

The media file you uploaded as File:Icebreaker oden.png appears to be missing information as to its authorship (and or source), or if you did provide such information, it is confusing for others trying to make use of the image.

It would be appreciated if you would consider updating the file description page, to make the authorship of the media clearer.

Although some images may not need author information in obvious cases, (such where an applicable source is provided),authorship information aids users of the image, and helps ensure that appropriate credit is given (a requirement of some licenses).

If you created this media yourself, please consider explicitly including your user name, for which: will produce an appropriate expansion,

or the own template..

If you have any questions please see Help:Image page. Thank you. Sfan00 IMG (talk) 13:27, 10 May 2011 (UTC)

Edit warring and BLP violation Bensayah Belkacem
Your recent edits another one You are edit warring and i am asking you to stop violation WP:BLP. Please note that you are violation the outcome of the Requests for comment/Geo Swan by reverting primary sources into the article that are not suitable in BLP's. You are violating Reliable_sources/Noticeboard/Archive_84, Requests for comment/Geo Swan, WP:BLP and now you are edit warring. What is wrong with you? IQinn (talk) 14:53, 11 May 2011 (UTC)


 * I want the opinion of uninvolved third parties. I believe that my initiation of the puf discussion was a reasonable thing to do.  Geo Swan (talk) 15:00, 11 May 2011 (UTC)


 * You do not need to edit warring for the opinion of uninvolved parties and these reverts are not about the copyright status. You have reverted multiple other edits including the use of primary sources against BLP. That is troublesome. I have opened a discussion here Administrators%27_noticeboard IQinn (talk) 15:07, 11 May 2011 (UTC)


 * I'll take a look at Bensayah Belkacem this afternoon. If there is material I re-introduced with the image, that shouldn't have been re-introduced, I'll trim it.  I request some patience here.  Geo Swan (talk) 17:13, 11 May 2011 (UTC)


 * COMMENT - I have "trimmed" the article of primary source materials, and left a comment on the talk page.  This issue has been raised repeatedly. My suggestion would be to find secondary sources to confer notability, not primary sourced government documents.  Thank you.--Yachtsman1 (talk) 18:07, 11 May 2011 (UTC)

File:Andrew purvis's sidebar -- 'The Suspects- A Bosnian subplot.png
FYI, PUF is to be used when there's a question about whether or not an image is free or non-free. When an image is known to be non-free and it's just a question of use then the appropriate forum is WP:NFCR or WP:FFD. VernoWhitney (talk) 15:42, 12 May 2011 (UTC)

FYI/ANI
Hi. You are under discussion in a thread at ANI here - thanks. Off2riorob (talk) 16:58, 12 May 2011 (UTC)

Ah, please ignore me, I see you have commented in the thread so you are aware, excuse me, regards. Off2riorob (talk) 17:16, 12 May 2011 (UTC)

Orphaned non-free image File:Andrew purvis's sidebar -- 'The Suspects- A Bosnian subplot.png
 Thanks for uploading File:Andrew purvis's sidebar -- 'The Suspects- A Bosnian subplot.png. The image description page currently specifies that the image is non-free and may only be used on Wikipedia under a claim of fair use. However, the image is currently not used in any articles on Wikipedia. If the image was previously in an article, please go to the article and see why it was removed. You may add it back if you think that that will be useful. However, please note that images for which a replacement could be created are not acceptable for use on Wikipedia (see our policy for non-free media).

Note that any non-free images not used in any articles will be deleted after seven days, as described in the criteria for speedy deletion. Thank you. Courcelles 04:00, 14 May 2011 (UTC)

Nomination of Kenneth C. Waller for deletion
A discussion is taking place as to whether the article Kenneth C. Waller is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The article will be discussed at Articles for deletion/Kenneth C. Waller until a consensus is reached, and anyone is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on good quality evidence, and our policies and guidelines.

Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion template from the top of the article. Tassedethe (talk) 23:29, 14 May 2011 (UTC)

File source problem with File:Corp2454.jpg
Thank you for uploading File:Corp2454.jpg. I noticed that the file's description page currently doesn't specify who created the content, so the copyright status is unclear. If you did not create this file yourself, you will need to specify the owner of the copyright. If you obtained it from a website, please add a link to the website from which it was taken, together with a brief restatement of that website's terms of use of its content. However, if the copyright holder is a party unaffiliated from the website's publisher, that copyright should also be acknowledged.

If you have uploaded other files, consider verifying that you have specified sources for those files as well. You can find a list of files you have created [ in your upload log]. Unsourced and untagged images may be deleted one week after they have been tagged per Wikipedia's criteria for speedy deletion, F4. If the image is copyrighted and non-free, the image will be deleted 48 hours after 02:14, 17 May 2011 (UTC) per speedy deletion criterion F7. If the file is already gone, you can still make a request for undeletion and ask for a chance to fix the problem. You may wish to read the Wikipedia's image use policy. If you have any questions or are in need of assistance please ask them at the Media copyright questions page. Thank you. Magog the Ogre (talk) 02:14, 17 May 2011 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of Majed Al-Shammari


The article Majed Al-Shammari has been proposed for deletion&#32; because of the following concern:
 * Not notable.

While all contributions to Wikipedia are appreciated, content or articles may be deleted for any of several reasons.

You may prevent the proposed deletion by removing the notice, but please explain why in your edit summary or on the article's talk page.

Please consider improving the article to address the issues raised. Removing will stop the proposed deletion process, but other deletion processes exist. The speedy deletion process can result in deletion without discussion, and articles for deletion allows discussion to reach consensus for deletion. Scott Mac 22:57, 25 May 2011 (UTC)