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 * I was in the middle of creating the correpsonding article, when I got called away IRL. Geo Swan (talk) 04:20, 3 January 2012 (UTC)

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Wasser und Schifffahrtsamt
You started Wasser und Schifffahrtsamt. In German there is the much broader Wasser- und Schifffahrtsamt. Note the difference in spelling. What is the connection? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:58, 11 January 2012 (UTC)


 * Short answer. The English and German articles are about the same topic.  I assumed the dash in "Wasser- und Schifffahrtsamt" was a typo, introduced by google translate.  So, do some German words have trailing dashes?  I guessed the WSA had other responsibilities, like dredging, buoy management, possibily traffic control, management of water levels, but the RS I found only supported the icebreakers, so that is all I put in the article.


 * Long answer -- please feel free to rename the article. I think at some point someone may want to change the article title to "Water and Shipping Authority", which google translate says is the English name of the agency.  I would be okay with that too.


 * I came across references to the organization when I started an article about a German icebreaker. Our coverage of icebreakers is uneven.  We had articles about all kinds of big icebreakers, but practically zero coverage of smaller icebreakers.  If one read only the coverage of icebreakers on the wikipedia one might believe all icebreakers were at least several thousand tons.


 * So I have looked for RS on smaller icebreakers. Yesterday I started one on the Kieler, the WSA's most recent icebreaker.


 * Cheers! Geo Swan (talk) 14:47, 11 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Short comment: the "-" is necessary. What we have translates to "Water and Authority for Shipping", the Water is not connected to the Authority without it in German. This may be one of the few cases where would prefer the English title. Also I don't see that the English article covers the same area as the German which also speaks of many other rivers, not only Oder and Elbe. So I don't know if we should set the interwiki link to de. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:16, 11 January 2012 (UTC)


 * Thanks for your explanation. I changed the article name to "Wasser-".  Please feel free to change it further.


 * I looked at a translation of the German page. Yes, the German article covers much more than the stub I started.  I'll add more, as I come across references.  But I hope it is OK that this topic is not my highest priority.  Geo Swan (talk) 23:47, 11 January 2012 (UTC)
 * The German article seems to cover a federal authority for all of Germany, this article seems to deal only with one region. That is different from just being less detailed. There is for example Wasser- und Schifffahrtsamt Magdeburg, which is responsible for a certain part of the Elbe. I don't see any Amt for Elbe and Oder, as the English article suggests. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 00:00, 12 January 2012 (UTC)

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OTRS noticeboard response
Geo Swan, I have responded to your query on the OTRS noticeboard here. Please accept my apologies for the typo in my edit summary. Risker (talk) 16:57, 15 January 2012 (UTC)

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Reply to a heads up
Hey man. Wow I had no idea you started of a similar project and at the same time as me! Good on you. I actually like the way you have laid out the project and I would be happy to make my project a redirect to yours (this way people from Wikipedia missing project can have a look at the list). Actually, you are welcome to redirect that page yourself and if you feel you can make any use out of it (i.e. the info at the top or the red linked names etc, feel free to do so). Kind regards. Calaka (talk) 07:57, 25 January 2012 (UTC)

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Please do not fork content to create two sentence stubs
Please undo yourself at Davenport Road. You have created a stub with less, but still duplicated content from the more substantial article at List of east–west roads in Toronto. There is no justification for a separate article. -  ʄɭoʏɗiaɲ  τ ¢  17:02, 30 January 2012 (UTC)


 * Explanation provided at Talk:Davenport Road. Geo Swan (talk) 17:17, 30 January 2012 (UTC)


 * I've responded. -  ʄɭoʏɗiaɲ  τ ¢  14:28, 31 January 2012 (UTC)
 * If you choose to ignore me, I'm going to assume you can't justify your article any further and will redirect it and add the new content to the target article. -  ʄɭoʏɗiaɲ  τ ¢  05:03, 1 February 2012 (UTC)
 * You wrote:
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 * Redirecting was contested by creator and talk page posting has been ignored in favour of cramming the quoted material from the text into the article in a colourful way (ie "They report that the Toronto portion had earlier names, including "Plank Road", "Bull Road", and "the new road to Niagara" -- but that it was callled [sic] "Davenport Road" since 1797."
 * Redirecting was contested by creator and talk page posting has been ignored in favour of cramming the quoted material from the text into the article in a colourful way (ie "They report that the Toronto portion had earlier names, including "Plank Road", "Bull Road", and "the new road to Niagara" -- but that it was callled [sic] "Davenport Road" since 1797."


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 * Please remember, we are all volunteers here, working on the wikipedia in our spare time. In fact I spent close to two hours drafting a reply. It was that long because you and I have so many fundamental differences in how we see the wikipedia, and describing my understanding of how we disagree, in a way that might result in a meeting of minds, is difficult.


 * I am not "ignoring" you. And your impatience only makes working towards agreement and compromise more difficult.  Similarly with your rapid escalation to afd and your frankly inappropriate personal comments in that afd also make trying to keep the temperature lowered enough to reach agreement much more difficult.  Geo Swan (talk) 05:24, 1 February 2012 (UTC)


 * I quickly withdrew the afd and it has been deleted. Please retract my deleted statements. -  ʄɭoʏɗiaɲ  τ ¢  05:29, 1 February 2012 (UTC)
 * I have raised questions about other contributors who delete critical comments from their talk page, because they then don't make it into the talk page archives. On a few occasions I have used    to reduce the visibility of comments.  I haven't used the hide tag before, but I am going to try doing so now.


 * I hope this is acceptable to you. Geo Swan (talk) 05:53, 1 February 2012 (UTC)

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 * I just meant erasing the quote from my withdrawn afd rationale. I was left to assume that you were ignoring me since you were making other edits without responding, but now that I know you're crafting a response I'll await it. -  ʄɭoʏɗiaɲ  τ ¢  06:24, 1 February 2012 (UTC)