User talk:Geo Swan/archive/2020-01

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Ways to improve High Arctic Haulers
Hello, Geo Swan,

Thank you for creating High Arctic Haulers.

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Whoisjohngalt (talk) 15:44, 7 January 2020 (UTC)

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Nomination of David M. Thomas Jr. for deletion
A discussion is taking place as to whether the article David M. Thomas Jr. is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The article will be discussed at Articles for deletion/David M. Thomas Jr. until a consensus is reached, and anyone, including you, is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.

Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article. John from Idegon (talk) 01:36, 17 January 2020 (UTC)


 * Nominator withdrew AFD after a discussion of WP:SOLDIER, and flag rank... Geo Swan (talk) 17:47, 25 January 2020 (UTC)

Coast Guard Coxswains at Tulagi
Thanks for starting the cutter articles on these four World War II heroes.

I'm expecting a name change for Harris (WPC-1144). His Silver Star award and family records list him as Glen Livingston Harris, with only one "n" in the first name. The misspelling has apparently been propagated from 1940s era news articles. A similar name correction has already been made for Charles Moulthrope (WPC-1141), where the final "e" in the last name was originally omitted. – Maliepa (talk) 16:07, 25 January 2020 (UTC)


 * , thanks for all your work, in return.
 * Please feel free to move the article, and amend the redlinks, as you see fit, without a further heads-up. I agree that the articles should be at their real name(s), when those have been clarified.
 * Cheers! Geo Swan (talk) 17:47, 25 January 2020 (UTC)

removing comments by other editors
I imagine this was inadvertent, when you remove the comments of two other editors when adding your comment? I will leave you to restore your own comment.ThatMontrealIP (talk) 16:22, 28 January 2020 (UTC)
 * I fixed it for you: two removed comments are back, along with one you meant to leave. Thins are changing rapidly on that page, and I guess you might have been editing an older version.ThatMontrealIP (talk) 16:26, 28 January 2020 (UTC)
 * I left a thank you on User talk:ThatMontrealIP. Yes, inadvertent.
 * I'd still like to have that general discussion on NOTINHERITED and the Royal Family.
 * Cheers! Geo Swan (talk) 19:52, 28 January 2020 (UTC)

Nomination of Ahmed Siddiqui (German) for deletion
A discussion is taking place as to whether the article Ahmed Siddiqui (German) is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The article will be discussed at Articles for deletion/Ahmed Siddiqui (German) until a consensus is reached, and anyone, including you, is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.

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 * Störm renamed Ahmed Siddiqui (German) to Ahmed Siddiqui (terrorist) - which I thought was a lapse from BLP - the man does not seem to have ever been convicted, and his apparent confession occurred at a notorious torture camp. So, I moved it back to the original name.  Störm's nomination for deletion seems to have come in lieu of an explanation for renaming the article.  If he or she thought Ahmed Siddiqui was merely a figure in the 2010 bomb plot deletion was not in order -- redirection was.  I decided to redirect it.  I think CSD#G7 authorizes me to do that.  Geo Swan (talk) 20:32, 29 January 2020 (UTC)

Desmond Cole
Notability is not a static property; it can change. People can accomplish new things that they hadn't accomplished yet the first time, and receive new coverage that they didn't yet have the first time, which changes the notability equation — so a person who did not clear our notability standards as of 2017 can absolutely clear them now. An AFD discussion does not represent a permanent ban on the subject ever being allowed to have an article, and often just means "they haven't done anything notable enough yet" — but people who did not clear the notability bar at one particular point in time can absolutely still go on to achieve more notable things, and garner better coverage for them, than they had yet at the time of the first discussion.

So the fact that I was the original deletion nominator for both Rachel Giese and Desmond Cole doesn't mean I object to either of them having articles now — Giese won a notable literary award in 2019 that she had not yet won as of 2017, and Desmond Cole just published a new book which didn't exist yet as of 2017, which means that their includability has changed due to the existence of new accomplishments and new sourcing that didn't exist yet at the time of the original discussions.

It works the same way in other fields, too: people who had premature "campaign brochure" articles created at a time when they were merely candidates for WP:NPOL-passing offices, and were deleted on that basis, do sometimes go on to actually win the election in the end, and thus get articles again regardless of the original deletion discussion. Musicians who tried to misuse Wikipedia as a PR platform at a time when they were just aspiring wannabes do sometimes go on to actually pass WP:NMUSIC months or years later. And on and so forth: the fact that they were deleted before, at a time when they didn't have a credible notability claim yet, doesn't mean a new article can't be started now that they have a stronger notability claim than they did the first time. Bearcat (talk) 17:13, 30 January 2020 (UTC)