User talk:Geoff Widders

Hello, and thank you for your contributions to Wikipedia! I noticed that you recently added commentary to an article, Muriel Gray. While Wikipedia welcomes editors' opinions on an article and how it could be changed, these comments are more appropriate for the article's accompanying talk page. If you post your comments there, other editors working on the same article will notice and respond to them and your comments will not disrupt the flow of the article. However, keep in mind that even on the talk page of an article, you should limit your discussion to improving the article. Article talk pages are not the place to discuss opinions of the subject of articles nor are such pages a forum. Thank you. Whatever the merits of the material you are attempting to add to Muriel Gray, it consists of a broken link. You might be on slightly stronger ground if you were attempting to add a working link. PatGallacher (talk) 11:21, 27 May 2010 (UTC)

Guidelines and policy
As you are very new here and in a dispute I am posting you a link to our guidelines and policies. Please take some time to read them as violating them could result in editing privileges being restricted.

Please do not post the content again at Murial Gray without support and a consensus of editors that agree with its insertion. The blog it is linked to is not a reliable location to support any content from. Also articles about living people have a very high standard of content for inclusion, please read WP:BLP for details. You also have a declared WP:COI and a dispute with the subject of the article and you should better not edit the article but your contributions to discussion are welcomed. Thanks.Off2riorob (talk) 20:09, 27 May 2010 (UTC)

Gray
Hi Geoff, I've protected the article to make sure that that material is not restored to it. I'd like to unprotect it so that others can edit it, so can I have an agreement from you that you won't add it again? We have strict rules about sourcing on Wikipedia, especially for articles about living persons, and the website you were using wasn't appropriate. Please read our policy on sourcing at WP:V, and our policy on living persons at WP:BLP. In addition to the sourcing issue, you seem to have a conflict of interest, so if there are better sources about this issue (e.g. newspaper articles), it would be better if you suggested them on the talk page and let others add them to the article. Cheers, SlimVirgin  talk  contribs 21:00, 27 May 2010 (UTC)

moved from Off2riorobs talkpage
Geoff Widders

cc Noah Kirkman

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Muriel Gray (|talk|history|links|watch|logs) I have tried on several occasions to publish a purely factual piece of information to the biography of the living person Muriel Gray. It has been deleted. All I want to say is the following;- Muriel Gray's High Court claim against Geoff Widders related to the date of his unpublished novel Flight of the Shaman and the date of her novel The Ancient. It is an absolutely factually correct statement. Muriel Gray was successful in her claim. And yet people continue to delete it - why do they wish to hide the truth? This is the link to the article;- http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Muriel_Gray&action=edit&undoafter=364477255&undo=364485431 thanks Geoff Widders —Preceding unsigned comment added by Geoff Widders (talk • contribs) 19:33, 27 May 2010 (UTC) Do you have a reliable source for that? – ukexpat (talk) 19:47, 27 May 2010 (UTC) Self published non wikipedia reliable blog, the editor Geoff Widders here is of the same name as the person in dispute with the living subject, please do not insert this content again and take some time to read our policies. Off2riorob (talk) 20:04, 27 May 2010 (UTC) This needs more eyes, lots of 'new' editors appearing at this article. --Cameron Scott (talk) 20:35, 27 May 2010 (UTC) Article is protected for a week while we discuss this. Off2riorob (talk) 20:37, 27 May 2010 (UTC) Noah Kirkman

Geoff Widders (talk) 09:24, 7 November 2010 (UTC)


 * - Hi, that external link is not a wikipedia reliable source, you would been some mainline major publication to assert that the issue is notable, so, nothing has really changed since May, unless you have the story developed and is in some more WP:RS since then, let me know if you have any more reports of the case and we can look again but more these details nothing has changed. The link you are providing is also a self published source (blog) and not as such a reliable supporting link for any content. I would also request you not edit the actual article as you are involved or have been involved personally in a litigation with the subject of the article. If I can help you or you have any more questions, please feel welcome to contact me again, regards. Off2riorob (talk) 16:00, 8 November 2010 (UTC)