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Your submission at Articles for creation: Dyakis dodecahedron (December 2)
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asilvering (talk) 15:53, 2 December 2023 (UTC)

Dyakis dodecahedron
What the article needs is basically any source that isn't editable by anyone (like wikipedia) that actually says that that is a Dyakis Dodecahedron. Anything else can be handled.Naraht (talk) 14:18, 3 December 2023 (UTC)


 * Okay I've done what you told me to do, I've added some sources and now I'm waiting for the draft review. IcosaMarty343 (talk) 21:23, 5 December 2023 (UTC)
 * What have you added? I haven't seen anything. References to Wikipedia itself doesn't count.Naraht (talk) 19:52, 10 December 2023 (UTC)
 * I have 1 question, 1. There's literally nothing because no research has been done for this thing I'm making a draft about! IcosaMarty343 (talk) 23:30, 21 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Please read No original research. Wikipedia is *not* for things which are original research. Wikipedia does have articles on many types of Polyhedra see Category:Polyhedra and what they all have in common is that they were published somewhere first. Among the standard examples is Coxeter's Regular Polytopes. References in Wikipedia are to published works.Naraht (talk) 23:36, 21 December 2023 (UTC)
 * I have finally added some sources (I haven't added a lot of sources because I can't find a lot of sources), but I'm wondering, are they enough for my draft to reach articlehood, or do I need to find more? Also I used info from Wikisource as a reference as I could not find the primary reference and can only settle with a secondary one. IcosaMarty343 (talk) 18:44, 24 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Wikisource is not a source, the source is what is indicated there. In general Primary sources would be something like including an interview with Bill Clinton on an article about him. And Primary sources are discouraged. What is needed are Secondary and Tertiary sources. and the one from Encyclopedia Britanica is Tertiary. Adding some of the other sources that I wrote on the talk page would be good. Let me take a look at what it looks like now.Naraht (talk) 20:17, 24 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Please add the references from the talk page from the old crystallography books.Naraht (talk) 20:20, 24 December 2023 (UTC)
 * I added one and i’ll add the rest later. IcosaMarty343 (talk) 14:46, 31 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Is anything going fine, User:Naraht? IcosaMarty343 (talk) 20:03, 10 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Nobody has challenged it, and a few alternations that have been made that treat it like a normal article. Only thing I wonder is whether the values of the angles of the faces are known. Naraht (talk) 20:25, 10 January 2024 (UTC)

Links to draft articles
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Your submission at Articles for creation: Dyakis dodecahedron (December 5)
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Encyclopedia Britannica
Good start. What I'm not sure is how common the hkl notation is, but it definitely seems like this is more commonly seen in Crystallography than pure mathematics. Also, you may be able to pull things from http://cdigital.dgb.uanl.mx/la/1020056741/1020056741_001.pdf, http://cdigital.dgb.uanl.mx/la/1020056741/1020056741_008.pdf and http://cdigital.dgb.uanl.mx/la/1020056741/1020056741_008.pdf (title is on 001, information on that form in Crystallography is sort of split between 8 & 9. Idea would also be finding any crystals that have that shape.


 * https://books.google.com/books?id=GyQ-AAAAIAAJ&pg=PA246&lpg=PA246&dq=%22dyakis+dodecahedron%22&source=bl&ots=hnIi6qCBRh&sig=ACfU3U0OumyNVsx_svWtDy_htNMfUabbKA&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwiW2diq4KGDAxVRmIQIHWYUBaQ4KBDoAXoECAIQAw#v=onepage&q=dyakis&f=false


 * https://books.google.com/books?id=QWpUAAAAMAAJ&pg=PA165&lpg=PA165&dq=%22dyakis+dodecahedron%22&source=bl&ots=ltPlP2yiyd&sig=ACfU3U2PkXFbEc6Oq-PloaWKRCr6361eNg&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwiW2diq4KGDAxVRmIQIHWYUBaQ4KBDoAXoECAUQAw#v=onepage&q=%22dyakis%20dodecahedron%22&f=false

There appears to be even more in books.google.com searching on "Dyakis Dodecahedron" including what *might* be enough information to tie it to specific Pyrites.

As another note, while most of the sources are prior to 1930, this strikes me as a field that doesn't change that often, it isn't like pulling a 1915 book on the mental capacity of different races. I am curious as to why there aren't more recent books on it, is another term used in Crystallography now? Naraht (talk) 00:26, 22 December 2023 (UTC) Naraht (talk) 00:25, 22 December 2023 (UTC)

Dual of Dyakis Dodecahedron
I'm having trouble picturing this polyhedron. And while I don't think there is anything written that an article on a polyhedron means that its dual is also worthy of an article, we should at least take a look.Naraht (talk) 15:16, 22 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Would it be a Rhombicuboctahedron where the triangles have been twisted?Naraht (talk) 16:37, 22 December 2023 (UTC)
 * The squares would also be distorted, but the triangles would stay regular. IcosaMarty343 (talk) 20:37, 22 December 2023 (UTC)
 * What do the squares turn into, Rhombi? (actually looking at it, since there are three different types of vertex in the Dyakis Dodecahedron (at the corner of the Octahedron, on the edge of the Octahedron and in the middle of the Octahedron face, there would be three different faces in the dual. (I do own a copy of Regular Polytopes. :) )Naraht (talk) 21:32, 22 December 2023 (UTC)
 * The squares that correspond to the vertices of the octahedron will become rectangles, and the other 12 squares that correspond to the edges will become trapezoids. They will then join one short edge of a rectangle to a long edge, as the rectangles will be arranged in the same way as the axial edges of the pyritohedron. IcosaMarty343 (talk) 16:20, 23 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Do you have an image? I can picture the rectangles and the triangles, but not in between. (which I guess would have modified icosahedral symmetry?)Naraht (talk) 17:36, 23 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Diploidal rhombicuboctahedron.png
 * Yes I do. IcosaMarty343 (talk) 17:44, 23 December 2023 (UTC)
 * OK. That makes sense.Naraht (talk) 21:43, 23 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Ah, much of the information about the Dual is at Rhombicuboctahedron.Naraht (talk) 21:59, 23 December 2023 (UTC)
 * But the the Dyakis Dodecahedron is one particular dual of Rhombicuboctahedron (The angles are fixed in the Dyakis Dodecahedron), so the rectangles have a fixed ratio of sides.Naraht (talk) 19:30, 24 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Then here's an image of the dyakis dodecahedron alongside its dual cantic snub octahedron with the accurate side lengths.
 * Dyakis dodecahedron beside its dual.png IcosaMarty343 (talk) 20:04, 24 December 2023 (UTC)

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Bowers style acronym moved to draftspace
Thanks for your contributions to Bowers style acronym. Unfortunately, I do not think it is ready for publishing at this time because it needs more sources to establish notability and '''This is a WP:IAR return to Draft because the alternative is WP:AFD. We require references from significant coverage about the topic of the article, and independent of it, in multiple secondary sources which are WP:RS please. See WP:42. Please also see WP:PRIMARY which details the limited permitted usage of primary sources and WP:SELFPUB which has clear limitations on self published sources. Providing sufficient references, ideally one per fact referred to, that meet these tough criteria is likely to allow this article to remain. Lack of them or an inability to find them is likely to mean that the topic is not suitable for inclusion, certainly today. '''. I have converted your article to a draft which you can improve, undisturbed for a while.

Please see more information at Help:Unreviewed new page. When the article is ready for publication, please click on the "Submit your draft for review!" button at the top of the page OR move the page back. 🇺🇦 Fiddle Timtrent  Faddle Talk to me 🇺🇦 20:27, 21 May 2024 (UTC)

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 * I have given you and this the benefit of the doubt and ret8rned it to Draft: space. Move it unilaterally to main space again without verifiing that is has notability will not see other editors be so charitable 🇺🇦  Fiddle Timtrent  Faddle Talk to me 🇺🇦 20:30, 21 May 2024 (UTC)