User talk:Geopingo

Your submission at Articles for creation: Forest Therapy (January 24)
 Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by Heliosxeros was:

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EROS message 06:59, 24 January 2018 (UTC)

Your submission at Articles for creation: Forest Therapy (January 26)
 Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by Kb.au was:

The comment the reviewer left was:

Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit when they have been resolved.


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Kb.au (talk) 06:42, 26 January 2018 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Draft:Forest Therapy


A tag has been placed on Draft:Forest Therapy, requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section G11 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the page seems to be unambiguous advertising which only promotes a company, group, product, service, person, or point of view and would need to be fundamentally rewritten in order to become encyclopedic. Please read the guidelines on spam and FAQ/Organizations for more information.

If you think this page should not be deleted for this reason, you may contest the nomination by visiting the page and clicking the button labelled "Contest this speedy deletion". This will give you the opportunity to explain why you believe the page should not be deleted. However, be aware that once a page is tagged for speedy deletion, it may be deleted without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag from the page yourself, but do not hesitate to add information in line with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. If the page is deleted, and you wish to retrieve the deleted material for future reference or improvement, then please contact the. Kb.au (talk) 02:48, 2 February 2018 (UTC)

Your submission at Articles for creation: sandbox (February 4)
 Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by Robert McClenon was:

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Robert McClenon (talk) 05:10, 4 February 2018 (UTC)

MfD nomination of Draft:Forest Therapy
Draft:Forest Therapy, a page which you created or substantially contributed to, has been nominated for deletion. Your opinions on the matter are welcome; you may participate in the discussion by adding your comments at Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Draft:Forest Therapy and please be sure to sign your comments with four tildes ( ~ ). You are free to edit the content of Draft:Forest Therapy during the discussion but should not remove the miscellany for deletion template from the top of the page; such a removal will not end the deletion discussion. Thank you. Robert McClenon (talk) 05:14, 4 February 2018 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Draft:Forest Therapy


A tag has been placed on Draft:Forest Therapy, requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section G11 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the page seems to be unambiguous advertising which only promotes a company, group, product, service, person, or point of view and would need to be fundamentally rewritten in order to become encyclopedic. Please read the guidelines on spam and FAQ/Organizations for more information.

If you think this page should not be deleted for this reason, you may contest the nomination by visiting the page and clicking the button labelled "Contest this speedy deletion". This will give you the opportunity to explain why you believe the page should not be deleted. However, be aware that once a page is tagged for speedy deletion, it may be deleted without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag from the page yourself, but do not hesitate to add information in line with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. If the page is deleted, and you wish to retrieve the deleted material for future reference or improvement, then please contact the. Kb.au (talk) 06:19, 4 February 2018 (UTC)

COI
If you have a conflict of interest when writing about a topic you must declare it. In particular, if you work directly or indirectly for an organisation, or otherwise are acting on its behalf, you are very strongly discouraged from attempting to write an article at all. If you are paid directly or indirectly by the organisation you are writing about, you are  required by the Wikimedia Terms of Use to disclose your employer, client and affiliation. You can post such a mandatory disclosure to your user page at User:. The template Paid can be used for this purpose – e.g. in the form:   . If you are being compensated, please provide the required disclosure. Note that editing with a COI is discouraged, but permitted as long as it is declared. Concealing a COI can lead to a block. Please do not edit further until you respond to this message.

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I notice that you have created multiple versions of this article, often present simultaneously. I'll assume good faith for the moment, but if you decide to recreate again, after clarifying any COI as indicated above, please only have one live version Jimfbleak - talk to me?  07:21, 4 February 2018 (UTC)

More
Thank you for responding to the COI enquiry, you will appreciate it's a question we are bound to ask. The other issue remains though. Both the deletion nominator and I did not think that the article was neutral in tone nor adequately referenced. For example, your lists of direct and indirect benefits are presented as facts, but unreferenced. Your final sentence is The relatively low-cost approach of the proprietary and standardized Forest Therapy offers a feasible, cost-effective and flexible solution, but the source for that is clearly not an independent third-party source. In fact, the other two refs with web links are also unacceptable, one is offering training, and the other is a Wikipedia. It also doesn't help that none of the other refs seem to have on-line versions that we can check. That's not a requirement, but it means I can't validate what you are saying. And far too much text is completely unsourced.

The tone of the article is unrelentingly positive. Has there never been any criticism or comment on the therapy's limitations?

Not a reason for deletion, but some style hints
 * Only have one version of an article posted here at any time
 * Don't use bare urls for web links
 * Lead section should have no heading
 * No bolding except the first use of "Forest Therapy"
 * Journal titles should be italicised and written in full, volume number should be bolded.
 * State the language of your ref if it isn't English.
 * Give doi numbers if they exist so that we can at least see an abstract

Have a look at Paxillus involutus for an example of what a well-referenced article should look like Jimfbleak - talk to me?  07:07, 5 February 2018 (UTC)


 * Incidentally, if you link to full text, do it from the title parameter, like the one I added to the draft ; if it's an abstract, link from the doi or pmid parameter, as in the fungus example I linked above Jimfbleak - talk to me?  08:10, 6 February 2018 (UTC)

Your submission at Articles for creation: Forest Therapy (February 6)
 Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by Winged Blades of Godric was:

Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit when they have been resolved.


 * If you would like to continue working on the submission, go to Draft:Forest Therapy and click on the "Edit" tab at the top of the window.
 * If you now believe the draft cannot meet Wikipedia's standards or do not wish to progress it further, you may request deletion. Please go to Draft:Forest Therapy, click on the "Edit" tab at the top of the window, add "db-self" at the top of the draft text and save.
 * If you need any assistance, you can ask for help at the [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation/Help_desk&action=edit&section=new&nosummary=1&preload=Template:Afc_decline/HD_preload&preloadparams%5B%5D=Draft:Forest_Therapy Articles for creation help desk] or on the [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Winged_Blades_of_Godric&action=edit&section=new&nosummary=1&preload=Template:Afc_decline/HD_preload&preloadparams%5B%5D=Draft:Forest_Therapy reviewer's talk page].
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~ Winged Blades Godric 15:41, 6 February 2018 (UTC)

MfD nomination of Draft:Forest Therapy
Draft:Forest Therapy, a page which you created or substantially contributed to, has been nominated for deletion. Your opinions on the matter are welcome; you may participate in the discussion by adding your comments at Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Draft:Forest Therapy& and please be sure to sign your comments with four tildes ( ~ ). You are free to edit the content of Draft:Forest Therapy during the discussion but should not remove the miscellany for deletion template from the top of the page; such a removal will not end the deletion discussion. Thank you. Guy (Help!) 21:27, 6 February 2018 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Draft:Forest Therapy


A tag has been placed on Draft:Forest Therapy, requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section G11 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the page seems to be unambiguous advertising which only promotes a company, group, product, service, person, or point of view and would need to be fundamentally rewritten in order to become encyclopedic. Please read the guidelines on spam and FAQ/Organizations for more information.

If you think this page should not be deleted for this reason, you may contest the nomination by visiting the page and clicking the button labelled "Contest this speedy deletion". This will give you the opportunity to explain why you believe the page should not be deleted. However, be aware that once a page is tagged for speedy deletion, it may be deleted without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag from the page yourself, but do not hesitate to add information in line with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. If the page is deleted, and you wish to retrieve the deleted material for future reference or improvement, then please contact the. Legacypac (talk) 21:33, 6 February 2018 (UTC)