User talk:George Ho/Archives/2021/December

Template:Non-free manual reduce
Hi George, I didn't see your reply until the protection request was already archived. I'm not sure why Template:Non-free reduce is template-protected, since it has less than 100 transclusions. My sense is that the number of transclusions can vary widely depending on the backlog of images that need to be reduced. Indeed, when that template was originally template-protected back in 2018, the edit summary indicates that there were 2000+ transclusions at the time. Perhaps a bot was introduced to dramatically reduce that backlog? That might be an argument to reduce the protection level of that template, if the transclusion count now stays well below that number at all times.  —&#8288;Scotty Wong &#8288;— 16:58, 1 December 2021 (UTC)

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Randall Carver
How is IMDB not a credible source? https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0142576/ NoWikiNoLife (talk) 12:12, 24 December 2021 (UTC)
 * WP:IMDB redirects to WP:RSP, which says that IMDB is unreliable due to user-generated content. It may be suitable only as an external link. --George Ho (talk) 11:28, 24 December 2021 (UTC)
 * That doesn't make much sense. It's a website with subscriptions/memberships and they have a large team that double-checks all data before actually publishing it on their website, because the movie buff community is huge on accuracy and those who pay $150 per year for their IMDBPro have high expectations and are quite demanding that way. I bet you there's tons of info on Wikipedia related to films, actors, directors, producers, etc. that stems from IMDB and IMDB alone. Anyway, this is just one person's year of birth and I really don't care about it enough to get into a more serious discussion, but I find the decision to label IMDB as an unreliable site rather ludicrous. NoWikiNoLife (talk) 18:18, 24 December 2021 (UTC)
 * Just read past discussions provided to you at WP:IMDB please. Will you? Also, the articles using IMDB as their only source may likely be poor quality. Also, it's still user-generated and would likely be challenged. Also, there's also WP:BLP, which have shortcuts like WP:BLPSOURCE and WP:BLPREMOVE. --George Ho (talk) 17:26, 24 December 2021 (UTC)
 * Thank you for the links, but I had already read all that. It's nothing but a bunch of Wikipedia Newspeak. A few of Wikipedia editors make a decision on something and that somehow, then, makes it a fact. This is exactly why I've stopped donating to Wikipedia - it's run by people who allow frustrated keyboard warrior type admins to operate on a power trip. A few pajama-wearing basement-dwellers (I'm sorry, I mean Wikipedia admins) reaching 'consensus' on something has become known to have zero value. In any case, it's the internet era and there are dozens of other websites that list this actor's year of birth as 1946, so the info can definitely be found. Whether or not all these websites just copied it from IMDB or not is beside the point. If it had been wrong, someone somewhere would already have challenged it, however no such (challenging) info can be found anywhere, so there is very little reason to believe that 1946 could be incorrect. All this does is allow these Wikipedia admins to continue living in a delusion that what they think or say matters, while it simply pushes users to turn to other websites for info. Anyway, thanks for your response. NoWikiNoLife (talk) 20:20, 24 December 2021 (UTC)

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Richard and Maurice McDonald
Hi. Please do not add uncited material to articles, as you did with this edit to Richard and Maurice McDonald, as this violates Wikipedia's Verifiability policy. Being that you're a veteran editor with over 109,000 edits under your belt, you should probably know by now that Wikipedia requires that the material in its articles be accompanied by reliable, verifiable (usually secondary) sources explicitly cited in the text in the form of an inline citation. Thank you. Nightscream (talk) 19:31, 29 December 2021 (UTC)
 * If that's the case, then I guess I must eliminate possible birth years from other articles, like ones at List of The Great British Bake Off finalists. Right? Also, why have possible birth years occurred in other articles? I mean, are possible birth years primarily based on age "original research" or something? Must a source be required to verify possible birth years? --George Ho (talk) 19:48, 29 December 2021 (UTC)


 * If they are not supportied by citations, then yes, they should be removed. Why do they occur? Often I observe that and other types of information being added by anonymous IP editor newbies who may not be familiar with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. It's less often that I observe a veteran such as yourself doing so. I'm perplexed that you've been editing this long and have not yet incorporated this into your editing practices, and are actually arguing for the inclusion of such incited material. Nightscream (talk) 19:55, 29 December 2021 (UTC)


 * I'm doing my best to search for this general matter previously discussed. The least I can find is one of past WT:NOR discussions, which was over ten years ago. I couldn't find any recent discussions about this. George Ho (talk) 20:17, 29 December 2021 (UTC)


 * It's Wikipedia policy: WP:V, WP:NOR, WP:CS, WP:IRS, etc. May I ask where you got those birth dates from? Nightscream (talk) 21:37, 29 December 2021 (UTC)


 * If you want sources, please tell me which is more reliable to use. I seem to have trouble picking which: one from 1980sone about McDonald's and African Americansone about 20th-century architectureFood in Americaone about 20th-century economic history (1996)a 1991 book Maybe I'll lean toward either the 1980s, 1991, or 1996 book unless otherwise. George Ho (talk) 21:57, 29 December 2021 (UTC)


 * Wow, my cup runneth over! Any would do, though I would exclude the first one, because of the uncertainty exhibited by the question mark it places by Richard's birth year, and the last one, since the text is so tiny that it makes verification a bit harder. Use the second one. Thanks for all your hard work! Nightscream (talk) 02:06, 30 December 2021 (UTC)

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Happy New Year, George Ho!


Happy New Year! George Ho, Have a prosperous, productive and enjoyable New Year, and thanks for your contributions to Wikipedia.

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