User talk:George Serdechny/2010 Archive

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Proposed deletion of Chris Adams (Character)


The article Chris Adams (Character) has been proposed for deletion&#32; because of the following concern:
 * Absolution no indication of notability. WP cannot have articles for every fictional character. Does not meet WP:N.

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Proposed deletion of Calvera (Character)


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Proposed deletion of Bernardo O'Reilly


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Nomination for deletion of Template:The Magnificent Seven
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Proposed deletion of Django (character)


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 * Non-notable fictional character, no sources establishing notability "out-of-universe". Does not meet WP:N.

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Articles for deletion nomination of Django (character)
I have nominated Django (character), an article that you created, for deletion. I do not think that this article satisfies Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion, and have explained why at Articles for deletion/Django (character). Your opinions on the matter are welcome at that same discussion page; also, you are welcome to edit the article to address these concerns. Thank you for your time.Please contact me if you're unsure why you received this message. Crusio (talk) 14:26, 10 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Deletion policy. Any editor who disagrees with a proposed deletion can simply remove the tag. Please do not start the edit warring. -- SerdechnyG (talk) 14:29, 10 March 2010 (UTC)
 * What do you mean, "edit warring"??? Any editor can indeed remove the PROD template. And any editor who thinks that the removal was unwarranted can then take the article to AfD, that's standard procedure. Please assume good faith before accusing somebody. --Crusio (talk) 14:34, 10 March 2010 (UTC)
 * I did not accused nobody yet. -- SerdechnyG (talk) 16:47, 10 March 2010 (UTC)

Articles for deletion nomination of Calvera (Character)
I have nominated Calvera (Character), an article that you created, for deletion. I do not think that this article satisfies Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion, and have explained why at Articles for deletion/Calvera (Character). Your opinions on the matter are welcome at that same discussion page; also, you are welcome to edit the article to address these concerns. Thank you for your time.Please contact me if you're unsure why you received this message. Crusio (talk) 14:37, 10 March 2010 (UTC)

Articles for deletion nomination of Chris Adams (Character)
I have nominated Chris Adams (Character), an article that you created, for deletion. I do not think that this article satisfies Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion, and have explained why at Articles for deletion/Chris Adams (Character). Your opinions on the matter are welcome at that same discussion page; also, you are welcome to edit the article to address these concerns. Thank you for your time.Please contact me if you're unsure why you received this message. Crusio (talk) 14:38, 10 March 2010 (UTC)

Articles for deletion nomination of Bernardo O'Reilly
I have nominated Bernardo O'Reilly, an article that you created, for deletion. I do not think that this article satisfies Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion, and have explained why at Articles for deletion/Bernardo O'Reilly. Your opinions on the matter are welcome at that same discussion page; also, you are welcome to edit the article to address these concerns. Thank you for your time.Please contact me if you're unsure why you received this message. Crusio (talk) 14:40, 10 March 2010 (UTC)

Disputed non-free use rationale for File:Calvera signature.jpg
Thank you for uploading File:Calvera signature.jpg. However, there is a concern that the rationale provided for using this file on Wikipedia may not meet the criteria required by Non-free content. This can be corrected by going to the file description page and adding or clarifying the reason why the file qualifies under this policy. Adding and completing one of the templates available from Non-free use rationale guideline is an easy way to ensure that your file is in compliance with Wikipedia policy. Please be aware that a non-free use rationale is not the same as an image copyright tag; descriptions for files used under the non-free content policy require both a copyright tag and a non-free use rationale.

If it is determined that the file does not qualify under the non-free content policy, it might be deleted by an administrator within a few days in accordance with our criteria for speedy deletion. If you have any questions, please ask them at the media copyright questions page. Thank you. --EEMIV (talk) 17:28, 10 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Please be clear. How does it violate the 8th? -- SerdechnyG (talk) 18:15, 10 March 2010 (UTC)

Your warning
Dear SerdechnyG, I am sorry that you are getting so upset over these deletion proposals. Please get acquainted with WP policies and guidelines before accusing somebody of vandalism. There is nothing out of the ordinary going on here, it is perfectly normal to propose articles for deletion if an editor feels that the articles do not WP's requirements for notability and sourcing. Your vandalism warning on my talk page is unwarranted and frivolous use of such templates in itself may be seen as vandalism. Of course you are free to request administrator intervention. You can do this at WP:ANI or any of the intervention noticeboards that are linked on top of that page, should you feel that those are more appropriate. However, please first read the guidelines and familiarize yourself more with en.wiki. I am willing to work with you and assist where I can, but I really am afraid that I think that most of the articles that you have created up till now do not meet Wikipedia's standards. If you have good sources for those articles, I will immediately remove any PROD templates (AfD templates can only be removed after the AfD has run its course and has been closed), but given appropriate sources I would certainly vote "keep". Unfortunately, I do not feel that such is possible at the current time. --Crusio (talk) 14:31, 12 March 2010 (UTC)
 * This argument goes to administration. -- SerdechnyG (talk) 14:34, 12 March 2010 (UTC)
 * That is, of course, you're good right. However, I gingerly suggest that a more positive attitude towards advice from other editors and towards edits from others would be more effective. --Crusio (talk) 14:57, 12 March 2010 (UTC)
 * I saw no advices "from other editors and towards edits". All I had seen from your side and from User:EEMIV, has nothing in common with good faith: no constructive edits, no advices, and it can not be tolerated no longer. -- SerdechnyG (talk) 15:36, 12 March 2010 (UTC)
 * I think you are overdramatizing. It is perfectly normal to tag articles for deletion if you feel that they do not adhere to WP's standards and people do that routinely, even if it concerns contributions from new editors (to enwiki, that is). But you are right, once it became a bunch of articles, I should perhaps have contacted you and explained why this happened. My only excuse for not doing that is that I traveled a lot the last week (I left Bordeaux on Monday morning and returned from Washington DC yesterday afternoon), so I had (much) less time than usual. But even then, I think that things are much less negative than you seem to perceive them. I always explain what I am doing in my edit summaries (except automatized edits using Friendly or Popups and such) and often include links to relevant WP policies and guidelines. And in the above email I think I gave you some advice about reading relevant policies before jumping to conclusions. WP needs people with knowledge about Russian subjects, the coverage of non-English topics is often only sketchy. I am not familiar with the Russian wiki, but from what you say, it functions quite differently from the English version. Here, articles have to be sourced meticulously, probably much more so than on the Russian wiki (requirements on the French, German, and Dutch wikis, which I know a bit, are much less stringent than here, too). Here, blogs and wiki-type sites (like IMDb) are not considered reliable sources, for example. If the movies that you created articles for are indeed well-known in Russia, there must be sources for them (which certainly can be in Russian, if you have English ones, that's even better, of course, because everybody here can read that). If there are only few sources, or not enough sources to create separate substantial articles, you could consider merging the three articles on this movies series into one. Such a consolidated article would stand much better chances at surviving AfD (and if adequately sourced, probably never even will go there to start with). I hope this helps. --Crusio (talk) 16:35, 12 March 2010 (UTC)
 * No. Overdramatizing it's what you're doing. These articles were viewed and edited by few hundreds users (you can check it easily by viewing their history and statistics), and no one did not try to delete them, inspite they were not enriched by reliable sources as they are now. Now here comes User:Crusio and User:EEMIV and put them all for deletion. Seems to be not so perfectly normal as you think. -- SerdechnyG (talk) 16:51, 12 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Well, I guess we're done then. Please go ahead and report this to ANI. --Crusio (talk) 16:56, 12 March 2010 (UTC)
 * You're absolutely right. -- SerdechnyG (talk) 17:01, 12 March 2010 (UTC)
 * This will be my last piece of advice to you: you really need to try to read WPs policies and such. The top of the ANI page that I referred you to clearly states that you must notify editors if you discuss them there. It even gives the template that you should use for that. As far as I can see, neither EEMIV nor I myself got notified by you. --Crusio (talk) 21:05, 12 March 2010 (UTC)
 * "you really need to try to read WPs policies ". As well as you. -- SerdechnyG (talk) 10:37, 13 March 2010 (UTC)

Articles for deletion nomination of El Shaitan
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Articles for deletion nomination of Phantom (russian song)
I have nominated Phantom (russian song), an article that you created, for deletion. I do not think that this article satisfies Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion, and have explained why at Articles for deletion/Phantom (russian song). Your opinions on the matter are welcome at that same discussion page; also, you are welcome to edit the article to address these concerns. Thank you for your time.Please contact me if you're unsure why you received this message. --EEMIV (talk) 19:30, 12 March 2010 (UTC)

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 * You mean, there's no need in this image because there is another image in article? -- SerdechnyG (talk) 20:41, 13 March 2010 (UTC)

Request for an article
Please could you write an article for English wikipedia on the Ukrainian pop group Para Normalnyk who supported Viktor Yanukovych in the recent Ukrainian presidential election campaign. I know that they also play in Russia. Since you seem to know a lot about popular culture, you would be an ideal person to write an article. There are photos of them in Dnepropetrovsk on Commons.--Toddy1 (talk) 17:18, 14 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Never heard about it, but never mind. There is another reason - I'm affraid it will be deleted immediately after I create an article. So you better to write your e-mail, and I'll send it right after I write it. -- SerdechnyG (talk) 17:23, 14 March 2010 (UTC)
 * I cannot see any grounds for someone to propose deletion of such an article. If there are vandals who are inappropriately proposing deletion of articles you create, then you should report them on the admin notice boards.--Toddy1 (talk) 17:49, 14 March 2010 (UTC)
 * I can't see any grounds for deletion, as well as you. But few previous days made it absolutely clear, that such individuals, who do not sharing our point of view, really exists. -- SerdechnyG (talk) 18:17, 14 March 2010 (UTC)
 * It's difficult to understand, but it's true. -- SerdechnyG (talk) 19:16, 14 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Note that many users have their talk pages set up so that it is possible to click on a link to send the user an email.--Toddy1 (talk) 17:50, 14 March 2010 (UTC)

Phantom (russian song)
Please could you add citations for the following statements you added to Phantom (russian song): --Toddy1 (talk) 20:26, 14 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Lee Si Tsin is an idiom from native Russian second name Lisitsin, which is describing Soviet military pilots, who were fought in Asian skies against the US military, under such a cover.
 * For example, the Russian ace Yevgeny Pepelyaev and his commander Ivan Nikitovich Kozhedub both were Lee Si Tsins in Korean war, which they revealed after the fall of the Soviet Union.
 * Yes, but they are in russian. Look here ru:Ли Си Цын -- SerdechnyG (talk) 20:28, 14 March 2010 (UTC)
 * It is not a problem that they are in Russian.--Toddy1 (talk) 20:47, 14 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Done. -- SerdechnyG (talk) 20:57, 14 March 2010 (UTC)



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March 2010
You currently appear to be engaged in an edit war&#32; according to the reverts you have made on Chris Adams (character). Note that the three-revert rule prohibits making more than three reversions on a single page within a 24-hour period. Additionally, users who perform several reversions in content disputes may be blocked for edit warring even if they do not technically violate the three-revert rule. When in dispute with another editor you should first try to discuss controversial changes to work towards wording and content that gains a consensus among editors. Should that prove unsuccessful, you are encouraged to seek dispute resolution, and in some cases it may be appropriate to request page protection. Please stop the disruption, otherwise you may be blocked from editing. Crusio (talk) 10:16, 16 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Second that warning. You're edit warring across multiple articles, which is even worse. --SarekOfVulcan (talk) 17:16, 16 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Thanks for your help, Sarek, but let's leave it up to the administration to decide who started this warring and whos edits are worse. -- SerdechnyG (talk) 17:34, 16 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Ah, good. Then you started the warring, and your edits are worse. Glad that's settled. Now, can we please get back to writing an encyclopedia? --SarekOfVulcan (talk) 17:38, 16 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Of course, you can. -- SerdechnyG (talk) 17:44, 16 March 2010 (UTC)

Civility
FYI, you're rapidly burning your good-faith reserves with comments like "this thread is stale because of your presence here". Good luck with your editing. --EEMIV (talk) 18:01, 16 March 2010 (UTC)
 * You did it first with the SAME comments. Good luck... to me. -- SerdechnyG (talk) 18:04, 16 March 2010 (UTC)
 * No EEMIV did NOT make the same comments. Your incomplete grasp of English combined with your tendency to take everything personal makes you think everything being written is a personal attack on you. When EEMIV wrote "This ANI thread is stale", he referred to the length of time it has been on that noticeboard. If you look into the edit history of that noticeboard, you will see that people routinely refer to threads older than 24 hours as "stale". If there's no activity for 24 hours the thread gets archived. What EEMIV wrote was NOT a personal attack on you, it didn't even refer to you. What you wrote is a personal attack and on this wiki you can get blocked for that. As for your remarks just above to SarekofVulcan, if you care to look at his userpage, you'll see that he is and administrator, so now you have a direct response about personal attacks and quality of edits from an official administrator. Finally, as for your remark on the noticeboard that you have received no advice from me, there are several pieces of advice on the talk pages of some of the articles currently at AfD. There have been other instances, too (such as above under "your warning"). --Crusio (talk) 18:26, 16 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Oh, really?

... Hopefully mentorship with RadManCF will be useful. Regardless, this ANI thread is stale. --EEMIV (talk) 12:38, 16 March 2010 (UTC)
 * I underlined it.
 * As for SarekofVulcan, I leave him for you, because I do not need no answers from those one, who nominated for deletion one of the articles on my user's page, and joined your side in variety of other actions against me. So, as you understand, in such situation it's unimportant: whether he is administrator, or not. -- SerdechnyG (talk) 18:37, 16 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Your citation of EEMIV is correct and the bold part does say "this ANI thread is stale". Now how on Earth does this constitute an attack on you? That comment is about the thread, not you. --Crusio (talk) 18:41, 16 March 2010 (UTC)
 * To continue on the topic of civility, I see that you have opened a complaint about me and EEMIV for edit warring. As you did with the ANI posting, despite explicit instructions on top of that page to notify the users concerned, you did not notify either EEMIV or me. --Crusio (talk) 18:35, 16 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Gotcha. I did it only a few minutes ago. I'm just not get there in time. You discovered it before I even opened an edit-option on your page. Now, PLEASE, tell how on Earth did you know it? Constantly watching my contributions-list? And after this you're continuing to say that "I don't have anything against him, nor against the subjects on which he is writing, nor want to annoy him, but only am interested in improving this project". Well, well, well. -- SerdechnyG (talk) 18:45, 16 March 2010 (UTC)
 * What do you mean "Gotcha"? I posted my comment here a quarter of an hour after you had filed that case. Plenty of time for you to warn at least one of the accused editors (i.e. EEMIV and me) or even both of us, as you did just now, within 3 min of posting the above comment. And no, I don't have anything against you, but apparently I have to check your contributions to see what you are up to. And there is nothing surreptitious about that either, that's why WP provides those links, to enable editors to see each others contributions. --Crusio (talk) 18:49, 16 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Of course, of course. Especially with my limited grasp of English... -- SerdechnyG (talk) 18:52, 16 March 2010 (UTC)
 * About 3 minutes. As I edited your page, I had allmost completed my message, when I clicked "Show preview" (you know, sometimes people click it) on the top appeared "You have new messages". I copied text in temporary file, and get back to my talk page to write you the answer. And after that I came back to your (and EEMIV) talk pages and added there my message from clipboard. Any questions? -- SerdechnyG (talk) 19:51, 16 March 2010 (UTC)

Experienced editors regularly look at my watch list (it is at the top of the page on the left hand side). The reason they knew of your posting before you told them, was that they had the Administrators' noticeboard page on their watchlist.--Toddy1 (talk) 19:40, 16 March 2010 (UTC)
 * I think they are over-experienced. -- SerdechnyG (talk) 19:49, 16 March 2010 (UTC)

Non-free images
You cannot use non-free, i.e. copyrighted, images on Wikipedia anywhere other than in actual articles. Therefore, the Yoda and Desantnik images are not allowed to appear on your user page. --EEMIV (talk) 14:08, 17 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Actually, I asked you, do not write on my talk page. However, If you allready did it, so make clear what prevents me from posting it there? Direct link, please. -- SerdechnyG (talk) 14:44, 17 March 2010 (UTC)
 * It's linked in the section header. It's item #9, specifically. --EEMIV (talk) 14:51, 17 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Item #9 contains NOT A SINGLE WORD about user pages. -- SerdechnyG (talk) 15:02, 17 March 2010 (UTC)
 * You have to apply a bit of logic. It says non-free images can be used only in articles. Because user pages are not articles, non-free images cannot be used on user pages. Your user page is not an article, it logically follows that non-free images cannot be used on your page. --EEMIV (talk) 15:28, 17 March 2010 (UTC)
 * It needs no logic. I found it: User pages. I have strong doubts about your knowledge of wiki policies and principles, I suppose you're guided only by blind destructive bent. -- SerdechnyG (talk) 15:34, 17 March 2010 (UTC)

Pick one of these 48 for the Desantnik image. Or all of them. Commons images are free to use. http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Russian_Airborne_Troops --GRuban (talk) 21:13, 17 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Солидный выбор, спасибо оценил. Но сей товарисч, который меня достаёт, найдёт ещё что-нибудь чтоб пристебаться. Так что для меня это вопрос чести и достоинства. Как говорил к-н Пронин в одном из мультиков: "Это мы еще посмотрим, кто кого уничтожит...". -- SerdechnyG (talk) 09:00, 18 March 2010 (UTC)
 * This is the English Wikipedia. It's extremely rude to have side conversations here in a different language so that others cannot know what you are saying. A mechanical translation program gives it as:"Solid selection, thanks estimated. But this [tovarisch], which me [dostaet], [naydet] is still anything in order to [pristebatsya]. So that for me this is the point of honor and merit. As spoke some Pronin in one of [multikov]: ' This we still will look, who whom will destroy… '."which doesn't look all that friendly.  Would you care to translate what you wrote into English, or reconsider it? Beyond My Ken (talk) 03:18, 19 March 2010 (UTC)
 * I haven't seen the requirement that all comments on a person's own talk page need to be intelligible to everyone else. I'm not denying the possibility, but haven't seen that rule, and I've been on Wikipedia a while. Maybe it's new. Could you point it out, please?
 * Anyway, I can translate the gist, if you like. He is thanking me for the offer of the pictures, but declining, saying his friend would still find something to nitpick about, and quoting from a cartoon (multik=cartoon), Captain Pronin.
 * Don't panic, please. Wait until someone starts quoting Pinky and the Brain's "try to take over the world", that will be something to worry about. :-) --GRuban (talk) 03:40, 19 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the translation. Are you sure that "[tovarisch]" translates as "friend"? I don't see anything terribly wrong with two people speaking to each other in their native language, or any language they have in common, it seems like a pretty minor transgression, but it certainly shouldn't be done in the context of a conversation initiated by a third party -- but, in any event, the point of having user talk pages be available for anyone to read is to promote transparency, and that's hardly served if another language is used.  The one thing everyone here presumably has in common is the ability to understand English, and, with occasional exceptions, that should be the language of editorial discussion here. Beyond My Ken (talk) 03:48, 19 March 2010 (UTC)
 * (ec) Oh, and as long as you're translating, what do [dostaet], [naydet], and [pristebatsya] mean -- that would seem important since it apparently concerns a point of honor of some sort. Beyond My Ken (talk) 03:56, 19 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Tovarisch="Friend", "buddy", "chum", that sort of thing. We've got an article Tovarisch, I Am Not Dead. Usually used to be translated as "comrade" in the Soviet era, but I don't think the intent is "party member" :-) Might be meant ironically, I admit, but nothing derogatory. The other three are, basically: bother, find, nitpick. From a fan of paratrooper movies, it's quite polite - he could have been expected to talk like User:Durova! :-) --GRuban (talk) 04:06, 19 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the translations, I appreciate your taking the time, however from the context of what I've read here and an AN/I, I'm fairly sure that "tovarisch" was used ironically or sarcastically. Still, even if so, it seems the comment was only mildly uncivil, nothing awful. Beyond My Ken (talk) 04:19, 19 March 2010 (UTC)
 * From WP:TALK: "No matter to whom you address a comment, it is preferred that you use English on English Wikipedia talk pages. This is so that comments may be comprehensible to the community at large. If the use of another language is unavoidable, try to also provide a translation of the comments. If you are requested to do so and cannot, you should either find a third party to translate or to contact a translator through the Wikipedia:Embassy."--SarekOfVulcan (talk) 03:53, 19 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Thank you, ambassador. Live long and prosper. --GRuban (talk) 04:06, 19 March 2010 (UTC)


 * My dear friends, Beyond My Ken and SarekOfVulcan. Tovarischi. That point, that WP:TALK recommends us to use English, doesn't oblige us to do so. Let me remind you, that Russian is one of the six UN official languages. As for "side conversations". Aside from who? Try to also provide a translation of the comments. For who? Who cares? It seems like my poor and uninteresting talk page becomes a tip of the day for some users. Looks like anecdote or rather a task for kindergarten child: A comes to B. Russian is native for both of them, and they both know English as well, but A has a limited grasp of English so guess, what language they would choose to speak? Russian? Wrong! Here comes some Deus Ex Machina and says: You have a side conversation!


 * Даа, ну и кашу же заварили... Вот только кому её расхлёбывать? (©Комбату лишнего не надо) "И этот дом они называют домом высокой культуры и быта!?" (©Иван Васильевич меняет профессию) Шучу я, конечно, но сограждане ваши явно перебдели немного. Чуть что - сразу вгору. Отвечу им словами Александра Невского: "Кто к нам с чем-зачем - тот от того и того..." :)) А ну как мы на Одесской Соне ботать начнём, или вообще на олбанский или язык упячки перейде? Ой, держите меня семеро. Спасибо, тёзка на добром слове. -- SerdechnyG (talk) 08:00, 19 March 2010 (UTC) "Yeah, what a kasha was brewed... But who will sup it?" (©Batallion commander needs no additionals) "And this house, they call A house of high culture and life"!? (©Ivan Vasilievich: Back to the Future) Of course I'm joking, but your fellow citizens are surely a little bit over-vigil ones. As something - immediately in mountain. I will respond with Alexander Nevsky words: "Who to us with what-for what, he will from that and that..." :)) And what if we start botat'  Odessa Sonya, Upyachka or Olbanian? Keep me Seven. Thanks for you kind words. -- SerdechnyG (talk) 08:00, 19 March 2010 (UTC)
 * (Comment: This parbox contains some untranslatable puns and notions, preference players argot and quotations which could be comprehensible only for Russian-minded person) -- SerdechnyG (talk) 08:00, 19 March 2010 (UTC)

В зоне особого внимания -> In the Zone of Special Attention
That seems to be the common way to translate the title. Note RIA Novosti and IMDB. It looks like it's going to be kept at the AFD. Want to move it now, or wait for the AFD to end? --GRuban (talk) 18:06, 17 March 2010 (UTC)
 * It's difficult to translate it directly. Word-by-word translation looks almost exactly as you wrote. Controversial point is that there are at least two synonyms of Special in Russian, one of which is Spetsialnyi (Специальный) and second is Osobyi (Особый). In such context it means heightened. Other point is that the High (or Special)Attention area(or zone), where story unfolds, is not a common name of territory but the codeword, which was prearranged by a few men. So it's not my privilege, to decide a proper name for this article. It may be a suggestion from English native-speaker, who barely understand Russian. -- SerdechnyG (talk) 18:50, 17 March 2010 (UTC)
 * I'm a native speaker of both, but that's not the issue. The issue is that all English translations of the title that I've found are "In the Zone of Special Attention", so that's probably the one English speakers will be looking for. We should use the translation that others use, not make up our own. --GRuban (talk) 21:16, 17 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Тёзка, предлагаю дальше по-нашему. Я не спец в таких сложных вопросах. Да и против названия ничего не имею, хоть как бы оно ни звучало, пусть даже "негры ночью уголь грузят". Мне сейчас важнее статью отбить, а то там претензия возникла что фильм ни разу не значимый. -- SerdechnyG (talk) 08:55, 18 March 2010 (UTC)

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An Analysis of the Laws of England
A single comment from Book IV of the Commentaries is not really an appropriate summary, since that wasn't what the work was about at all - it was meant to be an introduction to English law, as is made clear. Ironholds (talk) 19:56, 6 December 2010 (UTC)
 * And... George Serdechny 19:58, 6 December 2010 (UTC)
 * And... you've used it as a summary. Do you mind if I remove it (as said, it isn't really reflective of the work) or do you have any counterpoints or counterarguments? Ironholds (talk) 20:50, 6 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Dear colleague. I'm not an expert in English law and its history. I don't want to confront you, I want only to provide you with useful information (quotation from primary source). How will you label it, "summary" or "interesting facts", or "comparison with Roman Law" or anyhow else - it's not a big deal for me. I'm here to help, not to hint. I think co-operation is far more better than confrontation. Friendly. George Serdechny 20:56, 6 December 2010 (UTC)
 * This wasn't intended as confrontation; "summary" would refer to a pinning down of exactly what the entire text was about, so clearly this was inaccurate. Describing individual factoids through the use of primary sources is unnecessary when secondary sources refer to the general theme. Until third party sources pick up on these points, it is not really appropriate to include them - we may as well include the entire text of the work, because it is not our job to define what is relevant. Ironholds (talk) 21:32, 6 December 2010 (UTC)
 * All right. George Serdechny 21:03, 7 December 2010 (UTC)