User talk:Geowgeow

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Hello, Geowgeow, and welcome to Wikipedia! Thank you for your contributions. I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Unfortunately, one or more of the pages you created, such as CloudSense, may not conform to some of Wikipedia's guidelines, and may soon be deleted.

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Speedy deletion nomination of CloudSense


A tag has been placed on CloudSense requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section A7 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the article appears to be about an organization or company, but it does not indicate how or why the subject is important or significant: that is, why an article about that subject should be included in an encyclopedia. Under the criteria for speedy deletion, such articles may be deleted at any time. Please see the guidelines for what is generally accepted as notable.

If you think that this notice was placed here in error, contest the deletion by clicking on the button labelled "Click here to contest this speedy deletion". Doing so will take you to the talk page where you will find a pre-formatted place for you to explain why you believe the page should not be deleted. You can also visit the the page's talk page directly to give your reasons, but be aware that once tagged for speedy deletion, if the page meets the criterion, it may be deleted without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag yourself, but don't hesitate to add information to the page that would render it more in conformance with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. If the page is deleted, you can contact one of these administrators to request that the administrator userfy the page or email a copy to you. Gurt Posh (talk) 14:50, 22 August 2011 (UTC)

Status and Advice
As reviewing administrator, I deleted the article; I note that two other admins had previously deleted versions of it for essentially the smae reasons. you said on the article talk p.:

"This article should not be speedy deleted as being about a person, animal, organization or web content but which fails to assert the importance of its subject, because CloudSense holds a unique position in the UK as the fastest growing partner in the UK to Salesforce.com (the cloud computing provider, which itself has a Wikipedia page). CloudSense also supplies many global organisations, including the BBC, Easynet and EMAP (all of which are organisations and have Wikipedia entries). CloudSense is in the process of updating its website to reference all of these facts. The website will be live by 01.09.2011. We are also in the process of finding external references to these facts in the meantime. Please keep the entry live while these references are obtained. --Geowgeow (talk) 15:59, 22 August 2011 (UTC)"

You have to give some indication of importance to pass speedy--you will have to give yet higher level, actual notability  to keep the article. You will need to show it with references providing substantial coverage from  3rd party independent published reliable sources, print or online, but not blogs or press releases, or material derived from press releases. I point out to you that being a supplier to a notable business does not make you notable. Please get the references first, and only then make another try at the article

Include only material that would be of interest to a general reader coming across the mention of the organization and wanting the sort of information that would be found in an encyclopedia. Do not include material that would be of interest only to those associated with the organization, or to prospective clients--that sort of content is considered promotional. Keep in mind that the goal of an encyclopedia is to say things in a concise manner, which is not the style of  press releases or  web sites, which are usually more expansive.

For further information see our FAQ about business, organizations, and articles like this and also WP:FIRST.

As a general rule, a suitable page will be best written by someone without Conflict of Interest; it's not impossible to do it properly with a conflict of interest or as a paid press agent, but it's relatively more difficult: you are automatically thinking in terms of the organization wishes to communicate to the public, but an uninvolved person will think in terms of what the public might wish to know.

If you think you can do it right according to our guidelines, do so, but expect the article to be carefully checked for objectivity.  DGG ( talk ) 16:16, 22 August 2011 (UTC)
 * And I have deleted it again. It was essentially the same article, with one directory-style link added. Drmies (talk) 16:21, 22 August 2011 (UTC)