User talk:Geraldshields11/Archive 2

2012 Wikimania
At the meet and greet of 2012 Wikimania, I enjoyed talking with User:shujenchang, User:hidro, and User:mom'staxi.

Wikipedia Loves Libraries: Backstage at the Smithsonian Libraries
Thank you for signing up for Wikipedia Loves Libraries: Backstage at the Smithsonian Libraries. We are delighted that you will join us. In order to expedite the security process to enter the museum, would you please email your real name to snyders(at)si.edu as soon as you can? This information will not be shared on Wikipedia; it is simply so that museum security can put you on our guest list.

Our group will be meeting in front of the Constitution Avenue entrance to the National Museum of Natural History at 9:30 a.m. sharp this Friday, Oct. 12. Please bring a photo ID, a laptop if you have one (a limited number of library computers will be available if you do not have a laptop), and a willingness to share and learn. Thanks to the generosity of the Smithsonian Libraries leadership and the Wikimedia DC chapter, snacks, drinks, and lunch will all be provided to you, free of charge, as a way of thanking you for your participation. See you Friday! Sarasays (talk) 19:54, 10 October 2012 (UTC)

Gerald it was good meeting you at the SIL GLAM event on Friday, and thanks for the first edit barnstar. RebusDuplex999 (talk) 13:44, 15 October 2012 (UTC)
 * your welcome. Geraldshields11 (talk) 14:03, 15 October 2012 (UTC)

Help for new editor
Hi Gerald! Jessica here. Send me your email. Thanks! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 160.111.254.15 (talk) 18:03, 12 October 2012 (UTC)


 * Dear Jessica,
 * Yes, when I get back to my office. I will send you my email address. What is your Wikipedia user id? Also, please be careful about putting your personal information on Wikipedia. Geraldshields11 (talk) 18:08, 12 October 2012 (UTC)

Oops! Thanks! It's Jessiemtnbear —Preceding undated comment added 19:06, 12 October 2012 (UTC)

Kim Jong-un

 * kim jong un photo ; 98.169.254.39 (talk) 03:34, 13 October 2012 (UTC)
 * It's copyfraud of an Xinhua/AP photograph&mdash;definitely not CC-BY-SA. This specific image was last deleted from Commons (commons:File:Kim Jong Un.jpg) on 18 July 2012; the specific reason was that "Tineye.com search shows the image in at least 60 pages (eg ) as old as 2010. Doubt veracity of upload's claim of ownership (and perhaps other images he has uploaded)". Also see ABC: Xinhua, Yao Dawei/AP Photo.  Maxim (talk)  03:00, 14 October 2012 (UTC)
 * Thanks Maxim.Geraldshields11 (talk) 13:28, 14 October 2012 (UTC)

Dhund Abbasi
Hi, have just read your note on the above talk page. If you follow the history and my earlier notes on the talk page, youll note some gents are persistent in removing this and similar material and insist on their own poview as the only 'right' one. Im sorry Im not available these days to follow up or patrol regularly but would request if you could kindly help out thanks Khani100 (talk) 14:20, 15 October 2012 (UTC)Khani100

Thanks. Geraldshields11 (talk) 16:14, 15 October 2012 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Smithsonian Gardens
Hello Geraldshields11,

I wanted to let you know that I just tagged Smithsonian Gardens for deletion, because it seems to be copied from another source.

If you feel that the article shouldn't be deleted and want more time to rewrite it in your own words, you can contest this deletion, but please don't remove the speedy deletion tag from the top.

You can leave a note on my talk page if you have questions. Thanks, Secretlondon (talk) 22:54, 17 October 2012 (UTC)

Smithsonian Gardens
Dear Secretlondon, Thank you for the pointer. I appreciate it.

But, would you remove the delete tag from Smithsonian Gardens and give me and other editors more time. I am working on the article but I wanted feedback. That is why I posted on the article's talk page to invited people to add more cites and text.

I am not asking for carte blanche; just more time. If you do not agree with my changes after a time set by you, after removal of the delete tag, then I, Geraldshields11, will not contest any delete tag placed by anyone on this article for six months.

The Smithsonian Gardens are see by anyone who wanders on the National Mall and controls the numerous gardens in DC, which have Wikipedia pages. It would be a travasty to delete this article and let the pickachu articles stand. I understand Pokémon test but the cultural importance of the Smithsonian Gardens should out weigh my limited scriblings about the Institution and the article should stand until a better writer than me has a crack at it. Geraldshields11 (talk) 01:47, 18 October 2012 (UTC)
 * Since the article is now gone (and the talk page with it!) I just wanted to chime in here with a couple of points. First, the alleged copyright infringement of content from gardens.si.edu is not really valid since the Smithsonian Gardens web page was created and maintained by a quasi-Federal government institution--it seems to me that this content should be in U.S. public domain.   However, I do understand the need for a greater variety of sources.  Second, Geraldshields11, if you do want to keep working on this article in some sandbox space until it is ready for primetime, I am glad to help out with that effort in any way I can.  I do have access to the two published print books (Otteson and Park) cited in the article Enid A. Haupt Garden, and can help adding those citations if needed.  Thanks for your hard work in sharing knowledge about these important landmark gardens on our National Mall.--Sarasays (talk) 14:00, 18 October 2012 (UTC)


 * It seems the article Smithsonian Gardens was tagged, for deletion by User:Secretlondon at 22:58 on 17 October 2012 and then deleted at 8:45 on 18 October 2012 by User:Yunshui for unambiguous copyright violation of the Smithsonian Institution. For a grand total of 10 hours and 27 minutes to make corrections. Thanks for awarding me the Smithsonian barnstar. Geraldshields11 (talk) 21:08, 18 October 2012 (UTC)
 * Hi, please take a look at my expansion of your work on Smithsonian Gardens. It is currently in my user sandbox, because I didn't want to gunk up your talk page any more. I think it is ready for you to to try publishing it again, if you agree.  Keep me posted!--Sarasays (talk) 17:24, 22 October 2012 (UTC)


 * Dear Fellow Wikipedia Editors: Please do the edit at Sarasays' user sandbox. It is a better place and I have already edited and provided discussion at the sandbox talk page. I really appreciated the efforts in making Smithsonian Gardens a better article than the pickachu articles. Geraldshields11 (talk) 01:22, 23 October 2012 (UTC) 01:16, 23 October 2012 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of Kwak Pom Gi


The article Kwak Pom Gi has been proposed for deletion&#32; because of the following concern:
 * WP:BLP1E - in this case, the one event we have to report is five years old.

While all contributions to Wikipedia are appreciated, content or articles may be deleted for any of several reasons.

You may prevent the proposed deletion by removing the notice, but please explain why in your edit summary or on the article's talk page.

Please consider improving the article to address the issues raised. Removing will stop the proposed deletion process, but other deletion processes exist. In particular, the speedy deletion process can result in deletion without discussion, and articles for deletion allows discussion to reach consensus for deletion. Nat Gertler (talk) 21:15, 20 October 2012 (UTC)

I understand your concerns and I am taking appropriate action. North Korea is a secretive state, some information about govenrment officials is known from official North Korean media, other information has been reported in foreign media. I am trying to use library research, instead of just Google, to expand the encyopledia about a largely unknown country. If someone makes the paper newspaer in the DPRK, then that person is noteworthy. If someone stands next to a Supreme Leader to give a speech then that is noteworthy. After all, the person could later fall into a memory hole as in 1984 (book). For example, much of the information about North Korea is from unnamed south korean analysts reported in western news sources. Even, Ri Sol-ju, the wife of Kim Jong-un, is lacking definative information because the DPRK sources are scant. So, any North Korean article will likely be stub class until a major change in the government. Please give me time to flesh out the article but I have to go to the Global Resources Center at Gelman Library at the George Washington University library.Geraldshields11 (talk) 16:56, 21 October 2012 (UTC)


 * For example, the article About Comics started as a stub but it is not made in a secret society.
 * It looked like this at one time.
 * Revision as of 20:38, 29 November 2009
 * About Comics is a publisher specializing in comics and comics-related material.
 * But as more editors got interested, the one line with no cite acorn grew into a mighty oak of an article. Geraldshields11 (talk) 17:54, 21 October 2012 (UTC)


 * Dear Nat Gertler, Thanks for the pointer and I will work on it. Please would you help with the North Korean articles? It seems most of the North Korean articles, for example, Korea Sinhung Trading, started as stubs. Then, recently I have been adding cites and text. As you can see by the example, there is a lot of work to do.
 * On 20 October 2012, I started to create new DPRK articles based on the paper newspaper. Any help would be appreicated. Good health. Geraldshields11 (talk) 20:53, 21 October 2012 (UTC)

Wikipedia Loves Libraries editathons
Hey Gerald! I hope you had a good time at the Wikipedia Loves Libraries editathons! Thanks for attending, we love seeing you there :) Lisa N Marrs (talk) 21:03, 27 October 2012 (UTC)


 * Hello Lisa N Marrs, Yes, I enjoyed it very much. You were a great organizer. Also, today, I had to telecommute due to the upcoming storm. Batten down the hatches and all of that. I prepared to upload photos from Chinese monuments and historical places. Geraldshields11 (talk) 21:39, 27 October 2012 (UTC)

Smithsonian gardens
I've replied on my talkpage, but basically: it looks good, get it into mainspace whenever you want. Yunshui 雲 &zwj; 水  14:28, 31 October 2012 (UTC)


 * Dear Yunshi, thank you for the compliment. Geraldshields11 (talk) 15:18, 31 October 2012 (UTC)

DYK nomination for Smithsonian Gardens
Hi. I've nominated Smithsonian Gardens, an article you worked on, for consideration to appear on the Main Page as part of Did you know. You can see the hook for the article here, where you can improve it if you see fit. Allen3 talk 00:47, 4 November 2012 (UTC)
 * Hi Gerald, just FYI, I've reviewed the DYK hook and approved it. Yunshui 雲 &zwj; 水  10:25, 5 November 2012 (UTC)

DYK for Smithsonian Gardens
Graeme Bartlett (talk) 00:03, 10 November 2012 (UTC)

Syrian civil war Article
Hey, I removed two of the sections you added to the article one appears to be a direct copy of another of your additions (I assume that was a mistake) and the other was about the Free Iraqi Army. Because the article is so long already, I removed it mainly because they are not a major fighting force in Syria, and therefore don't really merit a place on the main civil war page. If you really think they should be added, the Foreign involvement in the Syrian civil war would be a great place to put it. Jeancey (talk) 20:40, 3 December 2012 (UTC)


 * Hello Jeancey, I took your advice and moved a segment under Foreign involvement in the Syrian civil war. Geraldshields11 (talk) 21:11, 3 December 2012 (UTC) Also, if you see a segment that you think belongs somewhere else, please feel free to move it to a more appropriate article. After all, that is what Wikipedia is about. Geraldshields11 (talk) 13:08, 4 December 2012 (UTC)

Invitation to WikiProject Brands

 * Thanks for joining WikiProject Brands! Northamerica1000(talk) 06:23, 21 December 2012 (UTC)

Happy New Year
...to you, too. --RoyGoldsmith (talk) 02:43, 1 January 2013 (UTC)