User talk:Gerda Arendt/2021



Did you know ...

... that Herrscher des Himmels, erhöre das Lallen, a Bach cantata for the Third Day of Christmas, contains the only aria that he newly composed for the oratorio?

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2021 · take courage · encourage
Welcome 2021! In the end, 2020 looked quite promising, and it's new year's resolutions can stay. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:22, 1 January 2021 (UTC)

My motto for 2021 is taken from a song: tell (announce) all in distress to take courage, as Isaiah wrote. Perhaps I should have just said "encourage!"

Today is my grandparents' wedding anniversary. They loved gardening and made a small summer paradise for us kids, with fruits, vegetables, potatoes, abundant flowers, especially dahlias, and a swing, - so garden will be a topic in 2021, as Beethoven was in 2020, today expanding Stonecrop Gardens. Ongoing: Bach, psalms, recent deaths, opera, Germany, and (my) places and songs.

I love collaboration, and can't mention all 2,500 whom I acknowledged so far, so thank just three of them for constant help: LouisAlain (prolific article translations), Grimes2 (language, sources and articles on request) and Yoninah (psalms and DYK). I make you (three) honorary members of WP:QAI, the project about article quality that I inherited, - more detailed plans are laid out (work in progress) on the project talk. The only reward for members is a monthly calendar image I took, such as the year's picture, - if you (all) want that, sign up ;)

I am proud that I could take recent images of music-making I enjoyed, and plan to do more of that. Off to Stonecrop Gardens. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:47, 2 January 2021 (UTC)

QAI
I sent the following note to members and friends of QAI = quality article improvement, so here to myself ;) - I tried to give a good start to 2021 by updating the QAI project topics. Please check and correct, - did you know that you belong to project's few members from the beginning who are still active? Yes, I know, I joined as No. 6 when it was founded in 2012, No. 1 is blocked, No. 2 is banned (therefore we call the project also the cabal of the outcast), No. 3 moved away and back under a higher number, Nos 4 and 5 edit but do little project work. Here I am to keep it going, in fond memory of the legacy the founders planted. Precious and Impact are the project's prizes, and I offer monthly thanks to those who are active, - you who read this could be one of them ;)

Ongoing projects, besides writing and reviewing quality articles:
 * Improve Psalms articles
 * Improve Bach cantatas articles
 * Expand and source translations
 * Polish articles about people who recently died
 * Offer infoboxes
 * perform gnomish tasks:
 * check for spelling mistakes
 * check for unclosed new-line html , replace by


 * check for direct links to foreign-language Wikipedias, replace by ill
 * apply lang to foreign-language text
 * observe WP:Colons and asterisks by RexxS, and make others do the same
 * provide navboxes, especially for operas which so far had sidebars, and providing images or infoboxes instead of deleted sidebars
 * replace deprecated harv by sfn
 * check deletion proposals

For moar private "happy new year" see here. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:10, 6 January 2021 (UTC)

Season's Greetings

 * see the archive for the whole collection from 2020

Happy Epiphanytide
Martinevans123 (talk) 14:04, 5 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Thank you, Martin, - did you see that my latest musical impressions came mostly from a church dedicated to the 3 Kings? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:13, 5 January 2021 (UTC)
 * My best wishes for the new year too, Cheers, &middot; &middot; &middot; Peter Southwood (talk): 11:22, 6 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Thank you, Peter, - find my wishes here. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:15, 6 January 2021 (UTC)

Barnstar
-Philippe (talk) 05:13, 31 December 2020 (UTC)


 * Now you made me smile, Philippe ;) - Have a good new year 2021! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:13, 31 December 2020 (UTC)

DYK for Magnificat (Hoffmann)
— Maile (talk) 00:03, 1 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Thank you, made my day, and a good beginning for a new year. The next day, it was moved, discussed, moved again, and given a strange name, based on a misunderstanding of German grammar. Don't join the discussion, it's a waste of time. Better listen to music. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:36, 3 January 2021 (UTC)
 * For the record, the catechisms in English are usually Large/Small. The use of Big/Little would probably refer respectively to Big Ears and Noddy in Enid Blyton's Toyland. Unlike Martin Luther, many of these terms are now no longer politically correct, so Big Ears has become "White Beard". His catchphrase was "You funny little Noddy!" I don't think Noddy has caught on in Germany; but I had Max und Moritz, Struwwelpeter, etc. Mathsci (talk) 14:07, 3 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Thank you, Mathsci. "Little" wasn't my idea - I'd say "small" - but was used in one of the articles I tried to fix. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 23:36, 3 January 2021 (UTC)

Wall of Honor
Gerda Arendt, you are one of nicest and caring persons in Wikipedia. As such, I have inducted you to the "Wall of Honor". We need more people like you in this project. I wish you a very Happy New Year. Tony the Marine (talk) 04:57, 1 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Thank you, Tony, and have a good new year 2021! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:22, 1 January 2021 (UTC)

DYK for Enid Szánthó
Cwmhiraeth (talk) 00:02, 2 January 2021 (UTC)
 * a great voice, sadly silenced --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:36, 3 January 2021 (UTC)

DYK for Gertrude Degenhardt
Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 00:02, 4 January 2021 (UTC)

Unclear what happened
Gerda, I just noticed that you reverted an edit that was reportedly made by me. The edit was one that I did not intend, so there are two possibilities: (1) I made the edit through an accidental keystroke, or (2) somebody else accessed my account. I am hoping it is the former, as the latter would be really concerning. In either event, I apologize for the disruption of your talk page. Cbl62 (talk) 00:06, 4 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Never mind, Cbl62, it happens to me a lot that I misclick some rollback when looking at my watchlist. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:45, 4 January 2021 (UTC)

Jan Vering
Greetings and Happy New Year!

Just saw Jan Vering article. Seems like it can be significantly expanded based on the article from de:Jan Vering. If you have some time see if you'd want to give this an attempt. My thinking is that this NRW article is worth an investment of effort into. Please do not worry if you do not have the time. Ktin (talk) 03:31, 4 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Thank you, and I agree! Too much detail for English, but some more should be here also. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:45, 4 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Ktin I looked and added a little, but don't want to go into details about a planned court date in the near future. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:19, 6 January 2021 (UTC)

Fachkenntnis
Hallo Gerda, darf ich auf Ihr Fachwissen in einer Angelegenheit befragen? Kennen Sie die folgende Organisation oder sind Sie mit ihr irgendwie verbunden: https://www.neue-bachgesellschaft.de/the-nbg-the-association/bach-festivals/?lang=de Falls so, haben Sie zufällig an einem der Bach-Festivals vorher teilgenommen und was ist Ihre Meinung dazu? Habe Neugier -- und versuche ich nur meine nächste Reise zu planen. Ich war letztes Mal in Eisenach, aber natürlich nicht nur für das Bachhaus, sondern auch für die Wartburg und ausgedehnte Familie zu besuchen. Übrigens -- frohes Neues! --Obenritter (talk) 16:06, 5 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Sorry, all new to me, interesting. My wishes for you and all are here. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:11, 5 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Thanks and gleichfalls. --Obenritter (talk) 13:30, 7 January 2021 (UTC)

DYK for Gernot Roll
&mdash; Amakuru (talk) 00:01, 6 January 2021 (UTC)

Please review my draft
Hi. My request on the article Draft:Asif Tariq was declined because of lack of sources. Unfortunately this is very difficult to find many sources as i am from very small town. The said subject is a renowned Kashmiri poet i worked hard on this article. Please help me by approving this article. I did my best. Hope in your help. Majid Saleem78 (talk) 22:29, 6 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Majid Saleem78, I had only time for a brief look - tired, and behind with an article. There are too many sources, for my taste. Leave the best. No reader needs five sources for one fact. - I respect those who declined, so may arrive at the same conclusion when looking closer. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:37, 6 January 2021 (UTC)
 * The subject is a renowned Kashmiri poet and i worked hard to work on this article. Isn't the article worth acceptable? Majid Saleem78 (talk) 22:40, 6 January 2021 (UTC)
 * I don't know (yet), and am too tired, as I just explained. I have to finish one more thing and then fall asleep. Please no more until I'll have time, - later tomorrow. Sift the sources, - whatever is not excellent should be dropped or made an external link. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:49, 6 January 2021 (UTC)
 * I respect your work. Please whenever you get time try to help. Thank you Majid Saleem78 (talk) 04:30, 7 January 2021 (UTC)
 * I'll see what I can do, but am sure that others know the topic better. Is there a related project whee you could ask? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:32, 7 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Majid, I see that the sources were trimmed (by other helpers), and that deletion was proposed. Please connect the author to Wikipedia: where would he be mentioned? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:23, 7 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Majid, please make two more changes: use surname - not given name - consistently in the article, and tell me if you took the image which is also in one of the sources. He is young and could have an article once he published more and was recognized internationally, no? Also, why do the sources call him Bhat, from Asif Tariq Bhat? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:23, 7 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Let's continue on the draft talk. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:39, 8 January 2021 (UTC)
 * "Asif Tariq" He uses his pen name as "Bhat". That's the reason he is called as Bhat. I had made some changes in the article i request you please approve the said article. If we talk about the picture i had only this and he seems young but isn't. Majid Saleem78 (talk) 13:55, 8 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Please take this and other comments to the talk. The name thing will need to be explainde in the article. - I'm going out now, and on return, have to write an article for DYK (Did you know ...?), and review two others, - don't know if I'll get to him today. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:05, 8 January 2021 (UTC)
 * , Please see Sockpuppet investigations/BurhanHyder. ─ The Aafī   (talk)|undefined  21:58, 8 January 2021 (UTC)

DYK for Rosl Zapf
— Maile (talk) 00:02, 8 January 2021 (UTC)

DYK for Jutta Lampe
— Maile (talk) 12:01, 8 January 2021 (UTC)

One nice person
Me claiming that I, peronsonally, have never met but one nice person on Wikipedia is a far far cry from me saying that there are no nice people on Wikipedia. I'm not sure how you fail to grasp the difference. It's like if I said it was rainy today and you said, "It's not rainy everyday!" Well, I didn't say it was. So why are you acting so defensive, unless there's a flaw to be defended? It makes Wikipedia seem not only like a harsh place, but also a harsh place where you are not allowed to even imply that it's harsh. Hyacinth (talk) 04:37, 9 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Hyacinth, I am sorry that I don't understand. English is still hard for me, and I don't remember what I said when, - two deficiencies you will have to live with. I must have misunderstood something, and now don't even know what.?? I looked back on last year's talk, where I find "haesh" twice, "kind" 66 times, and "thank" 565 times. I am thankful for this place.
 * You said there, talking about Future after Jerome Kohl died, if you may alert me "to discussions in the future so that you may uphold Kohl's legacy and add unbiased tolerance, reason, respect, and maybe sometimes some work (or a isuggestion for work)?", and I said yes. I still don't dare to write his article. Will you? In Freundschaft --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:34, 9 January 2021 (UTC)

I said that Kohl was the only nice person I'd ever met on Wikipedia, and instead of acknowledging that I was praising and honoring Kohl, you went off about how there are tons of nice people on Wikipedia, an objective claim which you are unable to verify and thus shouldn't have made. To pretend that linguistic difficulties got in the way is a cheap trick. You have no idea what my experience is like, because you didn't experience it. Rather than language difficulties, I would point to WP:OWNERSHIP. If you want I will say that Kohl was a bad editor and a mean person, but I don't think that's what you want. The only reason people act defensive is because there is something that needs defending, so your reaction statistically indicates that people on Wikipedia are mean, which, again, is not what you had presumably intended. So I am left stymied. Why is your honoring of Kohl good enough, but my honoring of Kohl isn't? Hyacinth (talk) 09:33, 9 January 2021 (UTC)
 * (I had to look up stymied.) I should have respected your look at things. I think we may have a different concept of what nice means. To me, translating to "nett", not much. I met only a few people with whom I have a relationship I'd call friendship, which is of a much higher value to me, and Jerome was one of the few. I miss him, and his imagination of great people making joyous music together in the beyond. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:45, 9 January 2021 (UTC)

DYK for Ute Trekel-Burckhardt
&mdash; Amakuru (talk) 12:03, 9 January 2021 (UTC)

Mercy dog
This article would benefit from some German language sources, if you can find the time and the inclination. I know its outside your bailiwick, but I think it worthwhile. Happy New Year and New Decade! Best to you. 7&amp;6=thirteen (☎) 17:46, 9 January 2021 (UTC)
 * I'll look - hopefully tomorrow. (... although I was a bit unhappy that a dog was pictured and not the wonderful actress) Have a good new year! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:16, 9 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Thanks. Merci.  7&amp;6=thirteen (☎) 19:21, 9 January 2021 (UTC)
 * This new article was just on the main page as a DYK. Not my DYK.  I tweaked it and linked it (in and out).  Didn't know about these dogs.  150,000 page views.  7&amp;6=thirteen (☎) 15:26, 10 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Great stats - it feels good that articles actually get noticed! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:42, 10 January 2021 (UTC)
 * in German: German Red Cross - they call them Rettungs-Hunde = rescue dogs, - the more precise term for "Mercy" seems to be Sanitätshunde, with 3 short paragraphs in de:Rettungshund, look for 1911. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:51, 10 January 2021 (UTC)


 * I was also impressed. We do good and effective things (at least occasionally).  That wonderful eye candy picture helped, I am sure.  7&amp;6=thirteen (☎</b>) 15:49, 10 January 2021 (UTC)

DYK for Morgenglanz der Ewigkeit
&mdash; Amakuru (talk) 12:02, 10 January 2021 (UTC)

DYK for Michael Gläser
Cwmhiraeth (talk) 00:02, 11 January 2021 (UTC)

DYK for Wolfgang Marschner
— Maile (talk) 12:02, 11 January 2021 (UTC)
 * The hook was written in fond memory of one of the world's greatest Stockhausen scholars who taught me something about the reliability (or not, don't follow them blindly) of sources back in 2009, see Talk:Siegfried Palm.--Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:41, 11 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Your question: I remembered the violinist from childhood radio announcements, and wanted to mention Sonatine. I hoped to find references for the detailed other facts, but didn't, lack of time also. Refs will be there, but offline. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:33, 12 January 2021 (UTC)
 * No doubt, I was just stunned that it was considered in a sufficient state to go to the main page. The Rambling Man (Stay alert! Control the virus! Save lives!&#33;!&#33;) 07:39, 12 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Same for me, I even forgot, imagine. Yesterday, I had plans to nominate Fritz Reuter, but didn't (similar problems), and over all that failed to nominate Christian Friedrich Gottlieb Schwencke, - also similar problems, but as that one made music history when dropping a measure when editing a Bach composition, I'm willing to invest some more time. Today I'll also have to look at Siegfried Borris or it will be too late ;) - What I'd really want to do is expand BWV 1 for FA. Pre-FAC comments welcome on the talk. There was a peer review in which practically only the nomination was criticised ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:55, 12 January 2021 (UTC)

Jerome Kohl draft
The draft article on Draft:Jerome Kohl has been edited to add the 4-page memorial about him published in Perspectives of New Music, which I believe is enough now to satisfy notability. Would you be willing to review and move to namespace if you agree? Thank you! -- Michael Scott Cuthbert (talk) 07:50, 13 January 2021 (UTC)
 * I made the DYK in memory of Jerome Kohl.

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Did you know ...

... that Wolfgang Marschner was the violinist in the first public performance of a work by Karlheinz Stockhausen, his Sonatine, with the composer as the pianist?


 * I worked a bit on the draft, so did Cote d'Azur, Aza24 and Toccata quarta. Someone will move it, I am sure. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:06, 13 January 2021 (UTC)
 * ... and Grimes2 --Gerda Arendt (talk) 17:30, 13 January 2021 (UTC)

Edit conflicts
I'm sorry for the edit conflicts. But the results of our effort are great, see Biserka Cvejić. Grimes2 (talk) 12:25, 13 January 2021 (UTC)
 * I agree, and please don't see some "ec" as criticism, just information to avoid the next. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:34, 13 January 2021 (UTC)
 * ... and it was moved! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:41, 14 January 2021 (UTC)

A bit of Alaska snow for your Monday


Not from my area but it's not far off from what I see on the trails. Our snow is about two to three feet deep in most places. It's pretty compacted on the trails but less so outside of them. The dogs love it!! Their discipline is about the only thing keeping me out of a snow drift (LOL). Our house looks like a giant pile of snow right now. These pesky flash blizzards keep piling it up. It's -2f and we may sneak up to 0 or 1f today. -- A Rose Wolf ( Talk ) 19:57, 11 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Soo beautiful, thank you for sharing. I was on skies today, fairy-tale landscape here as well. - I moved the pic to the right for indenting, hope you don't mind. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:15, 11 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Not at all! My toes and fingers stay frozen, not to mention my brain, so sometimes I need a little help. LOL It's not ideal for most but I love it here. I need to upload some photos myself. -- A Rose Wolf ( Talk ) 21:30, 11 January 2021 (UTC)

DYK nomination for Stonecrop Gardens
Nice to meet you, Gerda. I have approved your DYK nomination. This is my first time to review a DYK, so I apologize for any conventions I may have violated. Please let me know if there is anything else I need to do to ensure your DYK gets through the pipeline. Best wishes! DiverDave (talk) 17:47, 12 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Thank you, my pleasure! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 18:00, 12 January 2021 (UTC)

DYK for La schiava in Bagdad
—valereee (talk) 00:01, 13 January 2021 (UTC

DYK for Die Schutzbefohlenen
Cwmhiraeth (talk) 12:02, 13 January 2021 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

 * thank you, without (lazy) click ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:18, 13 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Oh thankful, too. Now I get it! El_C 22:58, 13 January 2021 (UTC)
 * I agree with this wholeheartedly. Gerda is one of the most amazing Wikipedians I have met in my brief time here. Always kind and always helpful. Please keep being who you are, Gerda, which is as close to perfection as one could get. -- A Rose Wolf ( Talk ) 16:22, 20 January 2021 (UTC)
 * blushing with thanks, RoseWolf! - please consider to color you talk blue in your signature, - "red link talk" signals "new user", someone to greet with a first welcome ever, and that seems a bit misleading - if not blue, any other colour better than red - Alternatively, you could link "Wolf" to the talk, - nobody would misread that, I guess. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:28, 20 January 2021 (UTC)
 * I'm sorry. It's supposed to be a rose pink hue rather than red. I will most definitely alter the color. -- A Rose Wolf ( Talk ) 16:31, 20 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Is this better or should I just drop the "Talk"? -- A Rose Wolf ( Talk ) 16:36, 20 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Like this better. Sorry for hijacking your moment. Not my intention in the slightest. Thank you for the tip and congrats. It's well deserved. -- A Rose Wolf  16:41, 20 January 2021 (UTC)
 * YES I like that better, much better! I wasn't even "on" here, - household stuff, no moment lost ;) - Among the gnomish tasks further up, there's an essay by a friend (RexxS) about indenting, - good stuff. (If you need any help with templates, formatting, and even admin tasks, ask him. He just survived COVID so can take a lot.) I did indenting for you above. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 17:01, 20 January 2021 (UTC)

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DYK for Oscar Fritz Schuh
Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 12:02, 15 January 2021 (UTC)
 * my little contrib to Wikipedia 20 --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:52, 15 January 2021 (UTC)

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 * Did you know ... that today, Wikipedia celebrates 20 years?

... that Oscar Fritz Schuh created a new style to direct Mozart operas at the Vienna State Opera, focused on the psychology of the characters? (15 January 2021)

... that director Frank Stähle revived the choir and orchestra of Dr. Hoch's Konservatorium and conducted them in Mozart's Requiem for the centenary of the Lutherkirche? (15 January 2016)

... that it took more than half a century to complete the Neue Bach-Ausgabe, the second edition of the collected works of Johann Sebastian Bach? (15 January 2011)
 * This is fab, well done Gerda! Nice article, never heard of the guy or half of the venues he worked at, so this was highly educational. Thanks! DBaK (talk) 21:49, 15 January 2021 (UTC)
 * While the first one was planned for the occasion, the second was a happy coincidence - I sang in that revival - and this last one just a coincidence, one of the articles LouisAlain began, as the one below. GRuban added the pic just yesterday, ot that one could also have been on the Main page, imagine. I love this team! GRuban, would you find a pic for Siegfried Palm as well? My second article, and Jerome Kohl (User talk:Jerome Kohl helped me understand that even if a reliable source says something, it can be wrong. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:51, 16 January 2021 (UTC)

DYK for Siegfried Pank
Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 00:01, 16 January 2021 (UTC)

ITN recognition for Osian Ellis

 * I couldn't believe he had no article in German. Changed, and immediately appeared on the Main page. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:37, 21 January 2021 (UTC)

Natural horns
As I was going through your new FAC I was reminded of a recent surprise I learned while researching for my WIP rewrite of Trumpet: that Baroque composers only had natural horns to work with! That was pretty mind-boggling for me as a trumpet player. Have you ever seen, in person, a Bach piece played by true natural horns/trumpets? A lot of modern performers seem to use holes to shift some of the partials towards equal temperament, but I really like the sound from those instruments without holes—which I'm guessing is also more authentic. Here is an example that I found enlightening. Cheers, Ovinus (talk) 11:08, 17 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Yes, natural horns in Cantata 4 of the Christmas Oratorio in the 2019 performance pictured on my user page, - that's Cantata 6, of course, with all soloists singing together. The two conductors (one for 1 to 3, the other for the rest) agreed that an occasional "kicksen" was better than modern instruments. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:42, 17 January 2021 (UTC)

"The first movement is a chorale fantasia dominated by the trumpet."
BWV 126. And I bet you wrote the sentence above! Isn't it, though, and how glorious. It's directly your responsibility that I am wallowing in this right now, Gerda, because your FAC made me listen to BWV 1 and on my Suzuki vol 34 that's coupled with 126 and 127. And here I am. I had just finished having my socks blown off by the horns in BWV 1 and then up popped 126 with the trumpet, er, dominating the chorale fantasia ... usw. Shocking that I didn't already know it, of course, but I have long since given up apologizing for my ignorance ... it would be a fulltime job otherwise. Gosh, it is an education reading your Talk page! Cheers DBaK (talk) 15:34, 17 January 2021 (UTC)

BWV 1, concertante violin 1
Having seen the poor quality pixilated image for the concertato violin 1 part for BWV 1, I downloaded a high resolution version, slightly rotated and clipped. It's quite readable now. See what you think. Mathsci (talk) 10:42, 18 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Thank you lovely! Please understand that I hesitate to enter BWV 53, a topic I wasn't involved with much and don't know much about. I have enough articles left behind with the feeling of too much discussion vs. little gain in content. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:46, 18 January 2021 (UTC)
 * I looked at my 1995 boxed version of the Teldec recordings of the Harnoncourt-Leonhardt version. There the 144 page booklet, written by Alfred Dürr, lists the Harnocourt recording as published on 1971 and on original instruments. Audio listings already can sometimes found in library catalogues (including in Germany or the BnF). My other suggestion is to have a brief summary of the discography, with a detailed listing elsewhere using the BSW, as for BWV 4 or Vespro della Beata Vergine. In separate discographies, difficulties with WP:TAGBOMB can be avoided. Mathsci (talk) 09:42, 27 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Thank you. I had the same idea: split the discography off, - just didn't get to it yet. With some amusement, I read today that I made up my mind to make BWV 1 a featured article, - on this day two years ago. No rush. If you want to proceed with the split already, go ahead. I received a review of the Harnoncourt recording which will be useful, - only read the beginning so far. Graham, perhaps you can help: we want to derive an article Wie schön leuchtet der Morgenstern, BWV 1 discography from Wie schön leuchtet der Morgenstern, BWV 1, this version, - how can the edit history appear there, - just attribution on the talk or other? It was done for BWV 4 years ago, copy and paste it seems. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:03, 27 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Good. Can't you arrange the split together with ? I'm sure will also be able to help you in sorting out edit histories for proper attribution to be given. Mathsci (talk) 11:09, 27 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Yeah, attribution in the edit summary and on the talk page (with copied) would be fine. Graham 87 11:33, 27 January 2021 (UTC)

"The first of the inexhaustible treasure troves issued by the BGS, beginning in 1851, and continuing for nearly half-a-century to astonish those musicians who had eyes to see, ears to hear, and spirits to be moved, could scarcely have opened more auspiciously than with the opening chorus of the hymn–cantata 'Wie schön leuchtet die Morgenstern' [...] The stately, leisurely, richly coloured 12/8 fantasia resembles in character the great chorus in [Cantata no. 65]. The scintillating concertante violins keep the Star perpetually in sight, the horns tell of the royal dignity of the Wise Men, the movement of the bass brings before our eyes the swinging of the long file of richly laden camels across the desert, the frequent reiteration of chords the treading of many feet in the sand. It is one of the most unforgettable pictures in musical art [...] Long as the chorus is, we do not regret a single bar. The kaleidoscopic changes of the fascinating material keep one's interest continually stimulated. It is a superb manifestation of the composer's genius."
 * In private, I mentioned Volume 2 of the book "The Cantatas of Johann Sebastian Bach, Sacred and Secular" by W. Gillies Whittaker. This is not available online, but I purchased a copy, which looks untouched. (At that stage, Oxford University Press did not use computers; so unfortunately two pages of the index, 746 and 752, have been printed twice, with cantatas 14–57 not appearing in the index.) For BWV 1, there are six pages of musical commentary on pages 104–110. There is a detailed musical analysis of the movements, with scored quotations, particularly for the opening chorale fantasia. Here are some extracts concerning the first movement:
 * The musical quotations in this passage have been omitted, as well as the detailed musical description (e.g. how the two concertante violins enter first in Violin II, echoed later, a fifth higher, in Violin I, etc). In his recent book that accompanies his recordings of the complete cantatas, John Eliot Gardiner often quotes parts of Whittaker's book. Mathsci (talk) 19:28, 9 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Thank you! Beginning at the end: I noticed that Gardiner takes a lot from Whittaker, including spring associations of that movement. I smiled reading about the richly laden camels ;) - At present, I'm mostly interested in stability for the article, - hope you understand. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:47, 9 March 2021 (UTC)
 * No comment. Yesterday I created the article Johannes-Ernst Köhler. Reading between the lines, he was probably not a particularly nice person. Mathsci (talk) 20:27, 9 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Thank you for that, - I gave it a bit of formatting. Reading between lines is an art. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:39, 9 March 2021 (UTC)
 * The pamphlet "Ex-Nazis in the service of the GDR" with one page devoted to the organist Köhler was disquieting: joining the NSDAP in 1937, etc. In his duties, might he have tried out the Walcker five-manual "diabolo" organ in the Congress Hall at Nürnberg? Part of Bach reception that is best avoided. Mathsci (talk) 16:53, 10 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Congratulations on your current DYK, which now appears on the main page. I see that the DYK was prepared and discussed last month on Talk:Peter Wollny. Is it due to be modified? Mathsci (talk) 12:39, 10 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Thank you! - Well, Francis said it might be misunderstood as Mahler having made it, vs. owned it, and I said so a few hours ago on WP:ERRORS, but no reaction I noticed. For our average readership, it may be good enough. I'll change if it gets changed on the Main page. Francis made the red link, and the news came around while a different fact (about BWV 20) was already approved, - "in the news" for once, - I like that. The ITN section reports deaths, sports wins, desasters, politics, - nice to have a cultural news item for a change, even if in the "wrong" section. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:55, 10 March 2021 (UTC)


 * As you see, I have incorporated parts of Whittaker's commentary above into the section on the first movement of BWV 1. Apart from the quotes supplied here, however, I have avoided giving any detailed musical analysis: there are two pages of it, but that does not seem to be the style of the article. I have mentioned the horns and their regal quality.
 * I noticed that you added wikilinks for Peter Wollny wherever possible: it kept appearing in my watchlist. I am not sure why you didn't mention Michael Maul in the article. Like the Acid Bath Murders in the Chamber of Horrors at Madame Tussauds, all traces of the DYK on Peter Wollny have now disappeared without trace. Mathsci (talk) 22:08, 15 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Thank you for the Whittaker. I have enough conflict without arguing over Wollny, and sorry, I didn't know Maul yet, - always learning. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:18, 15 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Having looked at Dürr & Jones, Whittaker, Cantagrel (in French) and Leisinger, the analysis of the first movement still requires a little more effort. The musical analysis starts with the 10 line melody or cantus firmus, from which the initial solo violin motifs derive; the inversions of the final phrase furnish second motifs for all the solo instrumental groups (horns, oboes d'amore, violins). The opening 12 bar ritornello/sinfonia punctuates and concludes the movement. The choice of instrumentation, with the brilliant concertante violins playing against the lower instrumental groups, permits the scintillating and transparent violin passagework to be heard easily.


 * The 10 lines of the cantus firmus are punctuated by episodes, which are easy to describe: recurrences of the sinfonia; the first motifs heard by different solo groups; and a duet between the concertante violins. Lines 2 and 5 precede a stretto version of the tenor and alto line (i.e. sung at twice the speed in minims instead of semibreves). The plain line of a single chord with one word in the voices has already been mentioned in the text. Otherwise there are contrapuntal entries in the lower voices which double the instruments; or the glittering semiquaver passagework of the violins is heard over the vocal lines.


 * The sources thus give the same kind of presentation of the musical analysis: firstly the soprano cantus firmus in long notes; secondly the thematic material from the sinfonia which is originally derived from the melody (e.g. triads); and finally the three lower vocal parts which use the stretto form of the cantus firmus or imitate the motifs of the sinfonia. Possibly it is less complex than the opening movements of BWV 39 or BWV 105 which are both more sombre and reflective; but, with its jubilant spirit and rapid changes between different episodes, there is never a dull moment. Mathsci (talk) 14:28, 17 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Can you please do that? My English just isn't up to it. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:38, 17 March 2021 (UTC)

Gerda: I found this English translation of Wie schön leuchtet der Morgenstern from the Lyra Davidica printed in London in 1708 by J. Walsh, J. Hare and P. Randal. What do you think?


 * Thank you, interesting. Translating poetry is almost impossible. Missing "süße" where it stands but added as "sweet face", adding "divine" ... - For history of the hymn, perhaps? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:58, 18 March 2021 (UTC)


 * Here's another ad hoc translation using several old sources, but using several words close to the original German. Mathsci (talk) 12:46, 18 March 2021 (UTC)
 * We're better using non-poetic but literal translations (or creating our own, if it is for the incipits such as at BWV 227) for critical commentary, such as what one would expect from a serious analysis. Although, to be fair the Lyra Davidica version seems far closer to the German than the usual "How brightly shines the morning star"... RandomCanadian (talk / contribs) 22:45, 18 March 2021 (UTC)


 * Slowly and steadily I am writing the material for the first movement, as we discussed. I added the image of the soprano part, because, even if in the soprano clef, it is very useful to see the cantus firmus. For the English translation, I have laboured hard to get as many words close to German into the English translation. "reich von Gaben" came out on as "rich in wonder", since "gaben" for "gifts" did not fit into the rhyming jigsaw puzzle. There was a transferred epithet at the end which did not change the sense ("most sublime in splendour" instead of "most splendidly sublime"). I hope to finish today, but it is quite exhausting. Mathsci (talk) 12:35, 19 March 2021 (UTC)

Dear Gerda: as you see I have prepared the full version of the musical analysis of Movement 1, which was complex since elemnts need to be added bit by bit. This for example explaining the overall bar form was obvious once the A-A-B text: Gilles Cantagrel emphasised that. Some matters might still needing sorting out, but it's seems OK at the moment. With Gog the Mild, there was an agreement on how to come to assess Movement 1. I am sending you an email about Movement 1 to discuss any issues. Regards, Mathsci (talk) 05:21, 20 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Thank you! I could not have done it. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:49, 20 March 2021 (UTC)

DYK for Dreikönigskirche, Frankfurt
Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 12:01, 19 January 2021 (UTC)
 * I like to see my pic, and show a diferent one today ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:04, 19 January 2021 (UTC)

Czech request
Hi Gerda -- I was wondering whether you, or perhaps your talk page watchers, might be able to help out an article stuck in draft on a Czech pianist/composer Draft:Václav Krahulík. It looks as if it is a translation of the Czech Wikipedia but I have no Czech at all. Many thanks! Cheers, Espresso Addict (talk) 00:42, 20 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Espresso Addict, I can look for formal deviations Czech/English, but can't tell reliability of sources. No Czech on my part. Hrdinský? Project Classical music? (link on my user page) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:40, 20 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Ah, you are so good at Eastern European musicians I thought you must be able to get by in the languages! I'll try Hrdinský; not had much luck with the Classical Music project in the past, at least with subjects outside the first rank of notability. Thanks, Espresso Addict (talk) 09:43, 20 January 2021 (UTC)
 * I just found someone for Russian (can't type the name, but look in Precious), but miss Halibutt for Polish. Smerus perhaps? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:50, 20 January 2021 (UTC)
 * I've just asked Hrdinský and they seem to be active at the moment, so let's see if they bite :) I do so hate losing potential material because the creators don't know how to write an article that passes muster, and draftspace freezes out collaborative editing. I'm working on a Bulgarian violinist at the moment, but luckily the sources so far are in English! Cheers, Espresso Addict (talk) 10:09, 20 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Good to hear, and good luck with the violinist. Draft space is awful, - no connection to the article in other Wikipedias, authority control doesn't work, and nobody sees it because it's not linked (red links instead!), - I believe tags for required sources would suffice in most cases when articles are moved there to "incubate". Watch LouisAlain's talk, where it happens again and again, just because German and English have different ways of sourcing. - I'll improve a garden today, to celebrate a birthday. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:19, 20 January 2021 (UTC)

DYK for Nun lasst uns gehn und treten
Cwmhiraeth (talk) 12:02, 22 January 2021 (UTC)

The world needs more mensch
I see both sides, but you were right to bring it up. I only knew her through my watch list but I know she was a tireless and fair volunteer. Take care,  Tide  rolls  13:43, 22 January 2021 (UTC)
 * thank you, feel understood, and even where I sowed some fruit of response could be enjoyed (because, as I explained to one per email: the message of saying nothing may be correct but is too ambiguous) - I never worked with her on an article, but saw her go and come back several times, and saw her contributions that can hardly be overrated --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:52, 22 January 2021 (UTC)

FA
Hello Gerda, I have a request which I think you might be able to help me with. I'm interested in improving R. A. B. Mynors, one of the GA's I helped promote, to FA status. While I have solid experience in the GA process, I have none when it comes to FAs. I've read at WP:FAC that first time nominators should seek someone as their FA mentor. I saw your name on the list and remembered that you'd mentioned the Mynors article in the precious award you gave me a while back. Would you be interested in helping me improve this article? I think it's at a high level with regards to comprehensiveness and use of sourcing, but might need work in the stylistic department. Let me know what you think! Best, Modussiccandi (talk) 23:24, 22 January 2021 (UTC)
 * I am interested, but it's bedtime for me. I'll look. Alternate text for images and consistent referencing style (with page numbers and names of author, editors, translators ...) are two points that will be looked at, and you can do yourself. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 23:30, 22 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Thank you, I didn't mean to rush you there. I actually went to bed after writing this myself and was anticipating your reply in the morning. Best, Modussiccandi (talk) 10:08, 23 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Fine. I will do what I can, but my time is limited, and I never brought a biography to FA. If I was you, I'd look at one and check for things to be learned. Nigel Williams (conservator) comes to my mind. Perhaps also check the review there for things reviewers want to see. I have a FAC open, and while a completely different topic, questions regarding sources may play a similar role. Another good way to introduce yourself to the FA people is to comment on a few open FAC, - and learn on the side what should be done or avoided. - As some step on the way to FAC, I recommend a peer review to collect other voices. You decide if sooner or later in the process. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:18, 23 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Brilliant, thank you a lot. I think I'll submit the article to peer review right away. I'll start putting some work into the article later today. Thank you for the advice and your time. Modussiccandi (talk) 11:12, 23 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Fine, I'm just in the process of a copy-edit, and wondered where to leave questions such as the needless repetition of his death in the lead, but will then just postpone until the PR. Adding a comma here and there is different. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:15, 23 January 2021 (UTC)

DYK for Christian Friedrich Gottlieb Schwencke
Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 12:02, 23 January 2021 (UTC)

DYK for Christuskirche, Walsdorf
Cwmhiraeth (talk) 12:02, 24 January 2021 (UTC)

Could I interest you in...
an alley of stray cats? El_C 18:33, 24 January 2021 (UTC)


 * yes, El C, always better with cats - DYK that Rosiestep guards her talk by cats, once even "my" 3? ... and how I miss Fylbecatulous? - life is too short --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:39, 24 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Thinking of purchasing that chipmunk leash, btw! El_C 19:55, 24 January 2021 (UTC)
 * did you go to the charming little church on top? ... it takes quite a close view to see all the little angels --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:02, 24 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Honestly, I'm more impressed with what seems like a monster organ (I think)... El_C 20:07, 24 January 2021 (UTC)
 * I heard that term only applied to this one ;) - our (former) Wiesbaden conductor was permitted to play it, and participate in a rehearsal, imagine, due to talking to someone on a train ride through the States --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:20, 24 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Whoa, I realize it's in Salt Lake City, but the first thing that crossed my mind when I saw that was: that surely is the Constantinople of organs! El_C 22:25, 24 January 2021 (UTC)
 * the choir is more than 300, listen they really mean it, marching on ... - I looked for For All the Saints, imagine. alternate. Gotthilf Fischer, however, conducted 1,500, DYK? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:16, 25 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Nice, I'll have me some of that Battle Hymn of the Republic! What a spectacle of sound (and also sight). El_C 04:54, 26 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Oh, and speaking of which, I would be remiss if I were to fail to mention: "Battle Hymn of the Republic - Modified for Relevance | Don Caron." El_C 05:06, 26 January 2021 (UTC)
 * yes, you can --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:57, 26 January 2021 (UTC)

DYK for Gotthilf Fischer
—valereee (talk) 12:01, 25 January 2021 (UTC)

o. S - o. ;p. - u. v. a.
Hallo Gerda,

I often meet these German acronyms but don't know what they mean. You certainly can decipher them for me. Thanks in advance. LouisAlain (talk) 12:13, 25 January 2021 (UTC)
 * no, but I may have misanderstood #2. #1 o. S. would mean "ohne Seitenangabe" to me, without a page number available, and #3 "u. v. a." translates to "und viele andere", which can be given as "among others", but when I translate I try to rather say "including" or "such as", instead of the clumsy thingy in the end. I hate the non-breaking space in prose, we have nbsp, and nowrap for longer phrases. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:50, 25 January 2021 (UTC)


 * Eventually, the best thing for me to do is to ignore these abrevations. Thanks. LouisAlain (talk) 14:57, 25 January 2021 (UTC)

DYK for Ringturm
— Maile (talk) 00:01, 27 January 2021 (UTC)

Vision, my topic of 2020, remember? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:06, 27 January 2021 (UTC)

DYK for Jerome Kohl
&mdash; Amakuru (talk) 00:02, 28 January 2021 (UTC)




 * This is wonderful. Well-deserved award. :)
 * Peace forever, Jerry. Antandrus (talk) 00:47, 28 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Friends, you made me cry.

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In Freundschaft

Did you know ...

... that Jerome Kohl, a music theorist of the University of Washington, was recognized internationally as an authority on the composer Karlheinz Stockhausen, publishing a book on his Zeitmaße in 2017?

(28 January 2021)


 * I looked up to Jerome from the day he came in my life (in 2009, telling me that was a reliable source said about Stockhausen was wrong, - it's still on the talk of Siegfried Palm, my second article), and I imagine our conversations - thoughtful, on a meadow - as pictured, in the spirit of Stockhausen's wonderful titles: In Freundschaft, Kontakte, Originale, Licht ... We never met. We edit-warred over Wittener Tage für neue Kammermusik and Georg Katzer, but always with respect. (If you want a tedious task, change the now deprecated parenthetical references, in hundreds of articles.) We worked together on many other. He thanked me for links to performers of Stockhausen's music, and I tried to mention their relation to the composer on the Main page, see Wolfgang Marschner (intentionally in memory), and before.


 * Jerome remains an inspiration, for the world. I will remember what he wrote (about Karlheinz Stockhausen and William Waterhouse (bassoonist) who died within a few weeks in 2011, and Stockhausen had just acknowledged WW for a memorial book): "I hope that they have met again in the beyond and are making joyous music together." --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:50, 28 January 2021 (UTC)


 * A beautiful bouquet of flowers to celebrate the memory of a special person. Well done Gerda. MarnetteD&#124;Talk 17:16, 28 January 2021 (UTC)

The uses of Ludwig
LvB strikes again!
 * https://www.reuters.com/article/us-russia-politics-navalny-search-piano/russian-police-searching-navalny-allys-flat-treated-to-beethoven-piano-recital-idUSKBN29X1ZO

– Sca (talk) 15:25, 28 January 2021 (UTC)


 * !!! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:30, 28 January 2021 (UTC)

DYK for Herr, mach uns stark
— Maile (talk) 00:02, 30 January 2021 (UTC)

in the 2021 series courage --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:21, 31 January 2021 (UTC)

DYK for Stonecrop Gardens
— Maile (talk) 12:02, 30 January 2021 (UTC)

Great memories! - in the 2021 series garden --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:21, 31 January 2021 (UTC)

DYK for Lobpreiset all zu dieser Zeit
Cwmhiraeth (talk) 12:02, 31 January 2021 (UTC)

What if?
I just saw that you removed the DYK nomination content from Talk:Kafilur Rahman Nishat Usmani. Don't you think archiving it would be a better option? Am I mistaken? ─ The Aafī   (talk)|undefined  15:26, 31 January 2021 (UTC)
 * TheAafi|, no, but feel free to revert. The credit comes with a link to the discussion. I believe it's good for nothing to have the old discussion on the page. This one at least was mercifully short, but some are long, not always friendly, and clutter the page where actual discussion towards a bitter article should take place. It makes a bit of sense while open. Back to the beginning: feel free to revert. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:00, 31 January 2021 (UTC)

Precious
Happy New Year. I hope you're well. Pdfpdf (talk) 04:47, 1 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Thank you! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:36, 1 February 2021 (UTC)

ITN recognition for Wilhelm Knabe

 *  Nice!  El_C 05:19, 2 February 2021 (UTC)

All caps (ALLCAPS!)
Enjoy this 30-seconds Leon! El_C 05:23, 2 February 2021 (UTC)
 * You are my capital voice ;) ... and Knabe's voice for environment and peace should stay CAPITAL. DYK that he joined the young demonstrating for Fridays For Future with a sign "Opa for future - you are not alone"? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:36, 2 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Sorry, what is Opa? El_C 15:13, 2 February 2021 (UTC)
 * I don't know. We are told on DYK to make people curious. It's a word for grandfather, as daddy is for father, so what is it? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:35, 2 February 2021 (UTC)
 * So, not Minister of Defense Opa Muchinguri — gotcha! That would be quite weird, because she seems to be pretty out there, about anything... El_C 18:16, 2 February 2021 (UTC)

Hypothesis infobox?
Hello! We haven't talked before, but I've seen your name around and you seem like someone who can help me out with an issue I've ran into -- or point me to someone who can.

I've ran into a surprisingly large gap in infobox-space. Specifically, there's no infobox to describe a scientific hypothesis. The closest we have is Template:Infobox pseudoscience -- obviously a bit of an aspersion in cases where it doesn't obviously apply. This has suddenly become an issue for me, because I'm the primary contributor to Imprinted brain hypothesis, currently undergoing GA review (my first time!) and about the sort of matter WP:FRINGE calls "questionable science" -- pseudoscience to some, legitimate to others. I'm concerned having the pseudoscience infobox on a subject where reasonable people can disagree about whether it applies weakens the article, but I don't have anything to replace it with.

I've heard the suggestion on the Discord server that I make a hypothesis infobox based on the pseudoscience infobox format, with the pseudoscience infobox being turned into a sub-template of it (it's only on about ~20 pages), but template editing isn't something I have, well...any experience with, and the process for infobox creation looks rather bureaucratic. Do you have any help or advice? Vaticidalprophet (talk) 08:29, 2 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Thank you for asking, and while I am no expert in the topic nor in templates, I'll just ping Littleolive oil and RexxS who may be able to advise. To me, the simplest solution seems moving the infobox template to the more general name. I use infobox person for all people. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:39, 2 February 2021 (UTC)
 * The name of a template like an infobox is almost immaterial because it's only seen by editors and not readers. Frankly I don't care whether reasonable editors can disagree about the whether the name of an infobox is disparaging, because the readers never see the name of the infobox. Nevertheless, when two "different" infoboxes have the same fields, it's easy to use one and make redirect from the other. I've therefore created Template:Infobox hypothesis as a redirect to Template:Infobox pseudoscience and replaced the infobox in Imprinted brain hypothesis for you.
 * I must say I'm impressed by the neutral tone in which the article is written, but I must urge caution about some passages in the Issues for the hypothesis section where you must be careful to avoid original research by juxtaposing two contradictory claims to reach a conclusion that is not stated in a published source. For example, factual statements like "Crespi and Badcock misrepresent findings" may be accurate; but without a published source stating that, it looks like you may be imposing your own editorial judgement on the relevant weights of the opposing positions. I haven't examined the sources in detail, so that particular issue might be covered, but if the mainstream view is that "Crespi and Badcock misrepresent findings", then there should be some reliable source saying so. I'm not asking you to change anything for now, but I wanted you to be aware of potential concerns. I hope that makes sense. --RexxS (talk) 14:11, 2 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Thank you for both the praise and the advice! I'll take a look if there's any way I can improve the relevant wording. I mentioned the bottom-text issue with the template on your talk page, but I'm glad to see that being worked out. Vaticidalprophet (talk) 14:23, 2 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Responding to notice from Gerda. I have nothing much to add. I'm not infobox knowledgeable beyond thinking they are useful. It's common in one's early day on Wikipedia to treat the encyclopedia like a research paper, to use parts of an article to build an argument, prove a  point, but this is usually WP:OR. The best we can do is cite reliable, verifiable sources to support explicit content-kind of boring in a way but the nature of this encyclopedia which is describing what is already published rather than novel information. I think Rexx explains this very well above. It's a well written article, but keep an eye on the potential for OR. Best. Littleolive oil (talk) 17:52, 2 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Responding to notice from Gerda. I have nothing much to add. I'm not infobox knowledgeable beyond thinking they are useful. It's common in one's early day on Wikipedia to treat the encyclopedia like a research paper, to use parts of an article to build an argument, prove a  point, but this is usually WP:OR. The best we can do is cite reliable, verifiable sources to support explicit content-kind of boring in a way but the nature of this encyclopedia which is describing what is already published rather than novel information. I think Rexx explains this very well above. It's a well written article, but keep an eye on the potential for OR. Best. Littleolive oil (talk) 17:52, 2 February 2021 (UTC)

DYK for Schloss Freudenberg
Cwmhiraeth (talk) 12:01, 3 February 2021 (UTC) one of my places --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:34, 3 February 2021 (UTC)

Congratulations
Your DYK hook about Schloss Freudenberg and its Dunkebar drew 6,352 page views (529 per hour) while on the Main Page. It is the one of most viewed hooks so far during the month of February and has earned a place on the Best of February list. Keep up the great work! Cbl62 (talk) 10:36, 13 February 2021 (UTC)

DYK for Spiel nicht mit den Schmuddelkindern
Cwmhiraeth (talk) 00:02, 4 February 2021 (UTC)

ANI notice where I mentioned you
There is currently a discussion at Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. The thread is Mathsci Iban violation. Thank you. You aren't really involved in any way, but I'm notifying you as I mentioned you because Mathsci mentioned you in their defence on their talk page. Nil Einne (talk) 06:42, 4 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Nil Einne, I was not called to WP:Great Dismal Swamp in years, and try to avoid the place. The question seems to be if an i-ban is more important than factual correctness of an article. I try to minimize contact with FS voluntarily (having walked away from many articles, including Stabat Mater and BWV 227) who . Therefore, I did not even look at BWV 53 (although I was pinged there several times, and felt some urgency). I wanted to focus on my own problem, BWV 1. A similar problem, it seems, a (and I didn't even pay attention then), which is hard to counter. I am willing to talk to you here, and did already contact Fram, El C and Mathsci yesterday (look for my plant image on their pages), if you want more background. Mathsci helped me with my problem overnight (his talk). I am sorry that I have so far failed to help him, for laziness, trying to avoid conflict. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:34, 4 February 2021 (UTC)

A goat for you!
Hello, Gerda! I suspect you've (deservedly) gotten every award known to humanity, and since I have an especial fondness for goats, having raised a flock of them as a teen, I thought you might enjoy this cute fellow.

Thank you for your boundless support for Wikipedia in areas popular and abstruse. You are one of the lights that has made my tenure here a joy. :)

Hope you are well! Neopeius (talk) 18:26, 4 February 2021 (UTC) <br style="clear: both;"/>


 * Thank you! Define well, I am healthy, but look above, - so needless. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 18:48, 4 February 2021 (UTC)


 * I am afraid it's all over my head, but I am sorry it is distressing you. I hope my cheerful note alloys the bitterness. :) --Neopeius (talk) 18:57, 4 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Bitterness is not it, just head-shaking. Love the goat, reminding me of the one my grandparents had ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:01, 4 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Yay! Oh, by the way, we're doing this on Saturday. I don't know if you have any interest in comic books, but one of our panelists is German Hugo Finalist Cora Buhlert, and she is a fount of knowledge on 50s/60s European comics. :) [The Journey Show] --Neopeius (talk) 19:13, 4 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Thank for sharing! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:17, 4 February 2021 (UTC)

DYK for F. Andrieu
~  ONUnicorn (Talk&#124;Contribs) problem solving 12:01, 5 February 2021 (UTC)

DYK nomination for Siegfried Borris
I completed a review at Template:Did you know nominations/Siegfried Borris and noted some minor concerns. I hope they are easy to fix! Flibirigit (talk) 20:31, 5 February 2021 (UTC)

Schubert's Erlkönig
Hello Gerda, may I interest you with this DYK nomination of Erlkönig (Schubert)? Perhaps a better hook can be written. Many thanks, intforce (talk) 16:58, 6 February 2021 (UTC)

DYK for Pueblo pottery
&mdash; Amakuru (talk) 00:01, 7 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Netherzone, that's a lovely article, - a first that I display the image for an article I only nominated. Thank you for what you said to Flyer22. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:50, 7 February 2021 (UTC)

DYK for Leon Rains
&mdash; Amakuru (talk) 00:02, 7 February 2021 (UTC)

Note to self, - thank you Littleolive oil! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:50, 7 February 2021 (UTC)

Interested in Music of Sudan?
Dear Gerda, as you already have enjoyed reading my article on the literature of Sudan, you might perhaps also be able to review my article about the Music of Sudan for GA status? It has been waiting for a reviewer since Sep 2nd, and even though I am in no hurry, I certainly would love to get your feedback. - It's not about European music, for sure, ;) but I suspect you might also be interested in the fascinating music of Sudan. And if you should have other priorities on your busy schedule, I certainly would understand that, too. Viele Grüße, Munfarid1 (talk) 15:13, 7 February 2021 (UTC)
 * I will certainly read it, interested, but - being not a native speaker - don't do GA reviews. Perhaps one of my visitors will pick it up. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:17, 7 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Thanks for both your quick reactions this afternoon. I didn't know about the restriction for GA reviewers and hope, somebody will be ready for the task soon... - And just read Pueblo pottery. - Amazing wealth of material, as it is a topic of American cultural history. I was especially interested in the paragraph Decontextualization, looting and black market trade, as it relates to my article about the Report on the restitution of African cultural heritage - which is also available in German. And finally, I thoroughly enjoyed your article on the Schmuddelkinder, which makes me reminisce about my days as a student in Freiburg i.Br. in the 70s! Munfarid1 (talk) 16:09, 7 February 2021 (UTC)
 * I spent a memorable day there then, - funny to think we might have met ;) - Netherzone, I hope you watch here. (Netherzone wrote the pottery article, I was just the nominator.) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:21, 7 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Thank you for the heads-up ping. I will watch to see how things unfold. Netherzone (talk) 16:27, 7 February 2021 (UTC)

Sorry ...
... for the inadvertent revert of your user page! I thought I was clicking on the line below in my watchlist. :)  Fowler&amp;fowler  «Talk»  17:17, 8 February 2021 (UTC)
 * No problem, it happens to me the same --Gerda Arendt (talk) 17:18, 8 February 2021 (UTC)

DYK for Anne Bierwirth
&mdash; Amakuru (talk) 00:03, 9 February 2021 (UTC)

see below --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:49, 9 February 2021 (UTC)

pretiosus
Thankyou for my precious birthday card. It must keep you monstrously busy sending them out. However as I was one of the early ones I hold it as a high honour and hope to have many happy returns! The jewel reminds me of one of the faces on the Sutton Hoo whetstone, a subject with which I once had something to do before ever I was Eebahgum - but that was long ago, now my inspiration is a song... "O wüsst' ich doch den Weg zurück..."; but, "Vorbei sind die Kinderspiele, Und alles rollt vorbei - Das Geld und die Welt und die Zeiten..." - though, while you keep us all connected, there is still a bit of "Glauben und Lieb' und Treu" - ! Thanks for that. Eebahgum (talk) 01:37, 9 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Eebahgum, thank you, blushing. - The cards keep me busy but sending is my pleasant morning exercise, thinking of how much there is to be thankful for. It's almost a selfish thing, making my day better. I had to stop making the jewel larger, and possibly ten will be the end, perhaps asking people to give more reminders to themslves (as I did two days ago).
 * DYK that I just had different Kinderspiele exposed here? Today: an alto singer who is pictured in my 2021 infobox, great place, great music (Part VI of course but the article is not yet developed), I was in the choir. She sang St Matthew Passion for us, and I heard her three times recently at another great place, taking pictures twice, and one appeared on the Main page. Music will survive us ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:49, 9 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Just think - and today is riddle-day for Trumpelstiltskin, too! Eebahgum (talk) 08:35, 9 February 2021 (UTC)
 * lol ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:38, 9 February 2021 (UTC)

DYK for Dreikönigskirche, Dresden
— Maile (talk) 00:02, 10 February 2021 (UTC)

Precious anniversary
Sorry, you've lost me there... GiantSnowman 10:46, 10 February 2021 (UTC)
 * GiantSnowman, there's a link, no? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:02, 10 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Sorry, it's displayed funnily on my screen and I missed it! Thanks :) GiantSnowman 11:03, 10 February 2021 (UTC)

re: WP:Tammy L. Kernodle "thank"
Thanks for the "thank"! I'm glad you found the article! What brought you there? — Preceding unsigned comment added by SyLvRuUz (talk • contribs) 19:27, 10 February 2021 (UTC)
 * SyLvRuUz, when I revert good-faith edits - such as your new sort of composers for the Monteverdi Choir - I try to find out if more of an explanation may be needed than an edit summary, so checked out your talk page, and it was not possible to overlook your article No. 1. ;) - congratulations! I think it is ready to be featured on our Main page in the DYK section, "Did you know ...?" (long enough, new enough, well referenced). I can nominate for you if you like the idea, - we have one week to do so. Just yesterday, I wrote a new article on a woman who translated African literature, - small world. I nominated her, it looks like this. - Please sign your comments on talk pages with four tildes, and indent a reply with 2 colons (one more than you reply to.) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:38, 10 February 2021 (UTC)

DYK for Konrad Rupf
— Maile (talk) 00:02, 11 February 2021 (UTC)

DYK for Innisfree Garden
Cwmhiraeth (talk) 12:02, 11 February 2021 (UTC)

topic of the year, sad that the image was not taken --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:15, 11 February 2021 (UTC)

DYK for Siegfried Borris
Cwmhiraeth (talk) 12:02, 12 February 2021 (UTC)

Thank you
Thank you, Gerda, for your well wishes. --  Jack of Oz   [pleasantries]  22:19, 13 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Thank you for the visit, and look around for music ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:32, 13 February 2021 (UTC)

Valentine Greets!!!

 * Thank you for the fire! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 17:01, 14 February 2021 (UTC)

How do you start the "precious" thing?
I would like to be a part of it too. <b style="background:#006A4D; padding:2px"> NASCARfan0548  ↗ </b> 16:48, 14 February 2021 (UTC)


 * For Precious, it would be good first to become a project member of WP:QAI. We try one per day. If you see a candidate, make sure in the the archive that she or he didn't get it yet. The model is on the talk page, and when you issued one, enter to the archive, in Recent. I have someone in mind for today. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:59, 14 February 2021 (UTC)
 * , I don't mean that, I mean you giving gems to me every Wikiversary. <b style="background:#006A4D; padding:2px"> NASCARfan0548  ↗ </b> 17:22, 14 February 2021 (UTC)
 * I think I wasn't clear. I do anniversaries of Precious, - so please come to my attention for that first ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:16, 14 February 2021 (UTC)

Happy Valentine's!!

 * How sweet and delicious, thank you! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:14, 14 February 2021 (UTC)

NRHP data sources
It seems that the NRHP program is quite slow in maintaining its Digital Asset Management System; the links included in the standard NRHP infobox will only get you a real page for properties listed after some date (e.g. here is a random one I've worked on that actually works), and I see that Innisfree Garden is a relatively recent addition. Likewise, the Elkman NRHP page that many NRHP editors use to e.g. quickly generate basic infoboxes is only up to date as of 2014, so no luck there, either. For assets in Texas, I've figured out the place where the State of Texas keeps copies of the NRHP nomination forms on a state website(!), and I just access them there to get good information when I'm working on a page for a site in my area, but I don't have the same insight for New York. Let me see... New York's Cultural Resource Information Center only lists Thorne Memorial School, Nine Partners Meeting House and Cemetery and Halcyon Hall in Dutchess County, New York; must not be quite up to date. It seems to me like this state agency is the one that should have the documents somewhere, but I'm not quickly seeing where they might have them buried in their website. Sorry I don't have more to offer! -Bryan Rutherford (talk) 15:51, 15 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Thank you so much. I'm in Germany so in no good position for chasing documents ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:04, 15 February 2021 (UTC)

DYK for Dorothee Manski
Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 00:02, 16 February 2021 (UTC)

'Fräulein'
From today's Ger. OTD:
 * 1971 – Das bundes­deutsche Bundes­innen­ministe­rium gibt bekannt, dass der Gebrauch der Bezeich­nung "Fräulein" in Bundes­behörden zu unter­lassen sei. Für jede weib­liche Erwach­sene sei die Anrede "Frau" zu verwenden.
 * I always wondered how Fräulein disappeared, seemingly overnight. My first high school German teacher (1964) always was addressed as Fräulein So-and-so, although she was in her 60s. – Sca (talk) 14:01, 16 February 2021 (UTC)
 * It was a slow death. My first Gymnasium teacher in German, an unmarried resolute woman around 60, insisted that we say Frau. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:38, 16 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Good for her.
 * My teacher was thin and bent, had hair like steel wool, glasses, and reeked of cigarettes, but she was a 'Fräulein' nevertheless. She was quite good – she would pantomime the meaning of words with much energy and we liked her. Her last name was Saloschin. She was a Jewish refugee from Vienna around the time of the Anscluß (1938). – Sca (talk) 15:29, 16 February 2021 (UTC)


 * PS: She used to call me "Stefi," with the S as an SH, of course. – Sca (talk) 15:39, 16 February 2021 (UTC)

DYK for Arik Brauer
Cwmhiraeth (talk) 00:01, 17 February 2021 (UTC)

Congratulations
Your DYK hook about Arik Brauer and his wide-ranging artistic accomplishments drew 12,337 page views (514 per hour) while on the Main Page. It is one of the most viewed hooks so far during the month of February and has earned a place on the Best of February list. Keep up the great work! Cbl62 (talk) 14:13, 18 February 2021 (UTC)

Erlkönig (Schubert)
Sorry, I reverted your addition. The lead (introduction, summary) should summarize what's below. I am not sure a short version of the plot is a good idea which is better in the linked article about the poem. IF, please don't make the Erl King a fairy which I think suggest a female character. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:23, 17 February 2021 (UTC)


 * Our goal here is to have an encyclopedia readable by ordinary people. When people who are unfamiliar with the song/poem arrive, they need a basic understanding of the characters/plot in order to read the article — otherwise all our references to the 'Erlking', the horse, the 'daemonic presence' will be unintelligible. It's not reasonable to expect them to go read ANOTHER wikipedia article just to begin understanding this one! :) Doops | talk 19:33, 17 February 2021 (UTC)
 * ... and then you tell them about the background of Schubert, and Goethe ... - the wonderful thing in Wikipedia is that we have links, and don't have to repeat what the poem is about for those who know it by heart. - Doops, this article (not by me) appeared already on the Main page for hundreds of readers. None of them had your concern. - If you disagree, you can write a summary of the poem's content, but please 1) sourced, 2) not in the beginning but a plot section, 3) not saying fairy, 4) not overly simplyfied. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:40, 17 February 2021 (UTC)
 * OK, I'm moving this discussion to the article's talk page. Doops | talk 19:42, 17 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Exactly what you should have done when (first) reverted. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:38, 18 February 2021 (UTC)

DYK for Biserka Cvejić
&mdash; Amakuru (talk) 00:02, 18 February 2021 (UTC)

Precious!

 * Thank you for coming over. I remember how you helped me through a rough start in a foreign language environment, and am always please when I see your recognizable name on my watchlist. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:13, 20 February 2021 (UTC)

DYK for Peter Herrmann
&mdash; Amakuru (talk) 00:02, 21 February 2021 (UTC)

You are amazing

 * Thank you, lovely, blushing moar - will go to blushing! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:13, 21 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Yes Gerda, you "really put the T into turtle"! (And yes, I've often seen my role as very much like those tiddlers. Only joking! Martinevans123 (talk) 14:53, 22 February 2021 (UTC)

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Did you know ...

... that a church's 1510 spiral of justice declares: "Justice suffered in great need. Truth is slain dead. Faith has lost the battle"?
 * I worded the above in 2015 as a comment to my arbcom case, 2013, remember? Now a friend of mine is taken there, and I seem to have language difficulties to even see a problem. I see unfairness somewhere else. Two editors are under an interaction ban. One reverts the other's "in use" template, and is blocked for a month. The other takes - during the block - material from the former, Clavier-Übung III, and makes it the basis of a new article, Reception of Johann Sebastian Bach's music, which now looks as if it was his creation, and is a different style which must hurt the other. To me, that is a provocation, a violation of the spirit of the iban, and taking advantage of someone else's intellectual property. A clean solution would be to delete that new article, convince the first author that the new one is a good idea, and begin with that author providing the initial entry. What can we do?
 * Admins I respect tell me it's all correct under Wikipedia's rules for attributing copied content, and respecting an iban. I think then something is deeply wrong with these rules. I thank Drmies for . What can we do?? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:05, 22 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Gerda, since you pinged me here (?) via edit summary, I'll stress that I don't actually know what's what with respect to any of the latest. As mentioned, I simply do not have the stamina to get into any of it at this time. BTW,, you must immediately Gooby-it-up, under penalty of indef! El_C 14:34, 22 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Great award, btw! Well deserved. (Which still doesn't get Atsme off the hook, Gooby-wise, I should emphasize. Hot-Dog Park beckons!) El_C 14:38, 22 February 2021 (UTC)
 * , where does one go when they must Gooby-it-up? SMirC-bearhug.svg I'll never make it to Hot Dog Park. <span style="text-shadow:#F8F8FF 0.2em 0.2em 0.2em,#F4BBFF -0.2em -0.2em 0.2em,#BFFF00 0.4em 0.4em 0.5em;color:#A2006D"> Atsme 💬 📧 16:53, 22 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Link on your talk page, ! BTW, block window open, duration set not to expire. If you are unwilling or unable to make it to Hot-Dog park in time, then you'll simply no longer be welcomed on the project. Sorry! (Noting that you did get some breathing room due to a correct application of the Gooby emoticon.) El_C 17:07, 22 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Ok, then give me a little time to figure this out, like maybe...a decade or so. <span style="text-shadow:#F8F8FF 0.2em 0.2em 0.2em,#F4BBFF -0.2em -0.2em 0.2em,#BFFF00 0.4em 0.4em 0.5em;color:#A2006D"> Atsme 💬 📧 17:45, 22 February 2021 (UTC)
 * El C, I pinged you because I mentioned you (under "admins I respect"). Thanks also for a smile. (But it will not solve the problem.) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:04, 22 February 2021 (UTC)
 * How about two smiles? Three? An infinity? What if I throw in Hot-Dog Park as a bonus? (Though beware of rouge Goobies!) El_C 16:20, 22 February 2021 (UTC)
 * I removed the tag from the threatened article, and you can please smile upon that. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:25, 22 February 2021 (UTC)
 * That this discussion has strayed from its original purpose (i.e. Gooby-related content) greatly enrages me. Grr! El_C 16:29, 22 February 2021 (UTC)
 * I was reverted, of course. Smile? Comment in the talk page discussion (begun by an IP, and the one to whom it matters being blocked)? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 17:11, 22 February 2021 (UTC)

Well, the attribution was fine, according to our rules for WP:Copying within Wikipedia. I did not say that it was appropriate in light of the iBan. I wasn't aware that Mathsci was blocked, and if all this happened while Mathsci was blocked, that's even more inappropriate. I think AN is the best venue for this. I cannot, for instance, just issue a block for it, since this is way too complex an issue (with a history) for such a simple solution, but I do think that the whole thing stinks and is an uncollegial shot below the belt. Drmies (talk) 00:17, 23 February 2021 (UTC)
 * What I don't get it Matshi removing an in-use was enough for a block, but this attribution/copying mess wasn't—both extremely minor offenses, that I would argue are more or less the same level. IMO neither action should be "punishable", but looking at what actually happened it seems we have a double standard Aza24 (talk) 02:36, 23 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Thank you, both. Drmies, we have this premature arbcase request where the step of personal approach was left out, and going to AN would mean about the same, no? Could you approach the shooter? (.) The place where I (and you, all!) can speak up is the talk of Clavier-Übung III. I woke up thinking that, yes, we don't OWN, but some articles still carry a personal handwriting which makes them a piece of art. I don't own Marienvesper, Brian doesn't own Poppea, Jerome doesn't own Klang, Mathsci doesn't own Clavier-Übung III, but I'd still like to see such articles under some sort of protection. If a historic palace is split, and one part modernized, I cry. (I took away the split tag, but was reverted withing minutes.) - I wrote about Paulinerkirche, not destroyed by a bomb, but by functionaries.


 * There were discussions to split Clavier-Übung III in 2012, one is in the talk archive, one (Classical music) linked to from the current discussion, and there must have been something on AN/ANI. Yes, the article is long, but we have room for millions of characters of nonsense. It was stable since, and it should stay that way, for readers who admire its architecture, - I am one of them. Der kaukasische Kreidekreis comes to mind: "The true mother, Azdak states, will be able to pull the child from the centre. If they both pull, they will tear the child in half and get half each." --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:31, 23 February 2021 (UTC)
 * The step of a personal approach was taken by Hammersoft, and I feel much better. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:26, 23 February 2021 (UTC)
 * I wonder if the step of a personal approach could still be taken by the proposers of the arb case. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:55, 24 February 2021 (UTC)

DYK for Jörg Widmann
Cwmhiraeth (talk) 00:02, 24 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Grimes, thank you so much for this biography, - I remember him congratulating Walter Fink in speech and music, vividly. Lovely Main page today, with a portrait of a musician the main topic ;) - thank you for that, Aza! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:55, 24 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Cheers—I have been showing off to some irl friends about POM being on the front page! I did the GA review for Widmann, and found a great article; good work Grimes. Aza24 (talk) 08:39, 24 February 2021 (UTC)


 * Small world, with the review. I'd appreciate if you could also review BWV 159, - "grab" perhaps, after last words on BWV 1. Regarding my troubles with arbcom (see thread above): I like a composer with an infobox declared GA. This would not have been possible in the days we better forget. The opera sideboxes - which should have been the only topic in the arbcase - are disappearing nicely, - thanks for your help there also. I often said that the ultimate wisdom on arbitration was given here, and the ultimate ten rules (including choosing your battles) here. Can't be repeated too much. I choose not to go to the current arb case request, feeling sorry for the waste of time of all involved: all respected Menschen. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:58, 24 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Have done so, but it may be a few days—I hope that's OK. I've been following the above thread but am confused by "current arb case", I assume you're talking about a potential arbcase, since I can't find a current one? (or maybe I don't know what you're referring to in the first place!) Aza24 (talk) 09:04, 24 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Oops my assumption was that your comment about a current arb case was referring to one surrounding the IBAN situation, I realize what you're talking about now I think. Aza24 (talk) 09:13, 24 February 2021 (UTC)
 * request, two people I like request investigation of one of my friends, - however that ends, it will not improve kindness, nor any article. I wish they had spoken to each other before going the ultimate path towards wasting your time. The iban thing - I hope - was tried to solve by talk from person to person. - Yesterday, a saw a user name on my watchlist that I hadn't seen for a long time, and was happy - until I saw what she said. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:20, 24 February 2021 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Sehet, wir gehn hinauf gen Jerusalem, BWV 159
Hi there, I'm pleased to inform you that I've begun reviewing the article Sehet, wir gehn hinauf gen Jerusalem, BWV 159 you nominated for GA-status according to the criteria. This process may take up to 7 days. Feel free to contact me with any questions or comments you might have during this period. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Aza24 -- Aza24 (talk) 09:21, 24 February 2021 (UTC)

DYK for Libuše Domanínská
Cwmhiraeth (talk) 00:02, 25 February 2021 (UTC)

a quick look?
Hey, Gerda! I've just created Hollis Taylor, and I wonder if you'd take a look to correct MOS errors (or any errors, of course) due to my lack of knowledge of how we italicize or place in quotes albums/compositions/etc.? If you don't have time or interest, no worries! —valereee (talk) 17:55, 25 February 2021 (UTC)
 * valereee, thanks for asking, I am interested but have no time right now (hungry after a hike and having to make the food first, FAC article changed, article of the day not yet begun - possibly another recent death I heard on radio, a cellist, promised yesterday to look at a German article ...): perhaps later today. While you wait, please look at at the Widmann thread above, - I rarely bold things on my talk, but made an exception. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 18:01, 25 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Gerda, I think you're asking me to comment on the arb case about RexxS? I didn't request investigation. I only confirmed evidence that had been presented. Those incidents were nearly a year ago and four months ago. When they happened, and I brought them to him, and I didn't get the response I was looking for, I let it go, both times. Both times. But when someone else brought it up, I didn't feel I could pretend it never happened.
 * When RexxS apologized, I accepted it with thanks and even a statement that I could have said a similar thing. I do not wish RexxS any ill. I certainly don't want him desysopped. I think he's clearly a net plus. I just want people to behave civilly toward one another, and I support us taking seriously trying to make that happen. I hope it doesn't end up with a case, or if it does, it just ends up with a warning, as I think a warning from ArbCom maybe is the 'grab him by the scruff and give him a good shake' that I think is what's necessary. —valereee (talk) 18:21, 25 February 2021 (UTC)
 * I have had a look and tweaked a bit (I needed a little break from Music of Remembrance). --Mirokado (talk) 20:15, 25 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Thank you, both. I am writing my little music of remembrance, Wolfgang Boettcher, will return. valereee, sorry, no, I didn't ask you to comment, just to look, perhaps at the spirale of justice pictured, or at how happy I was when I saw a name back on my watchlist, and mainly at that arbitration - any case, not this specific one - doesn't improve kindness and articles. There's the ultimate guide to arbitration to reflect, and the shorter version by Hammersoft: . - Back to Boettcher for a bit, - needs more refs to go the Main page. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:50, 25 February 2021 (UTC)
 * valereee, done now, and looked at Taylor and her birds: very interesting, thank you. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:41, 25 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Thanks, Gerda! I am in agreement with Hammersoft: don't. —valereee (talk) 23:18, 25 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Perhaps the arbs would listen to you, valereee. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:01, 26 February 2021 (UTC)
 * , the damage is done, however. There are a lot of parallels between this and my desyoping, especially in the way the case was brought about, and the ensuing perceived incivility. doesn't deserve this, we've known each other for a long time, he's nearly my age and one of the nicest people you could hope to meet. Let's just hope that this iteration of the Committee won't be so kaltschnäuzig and will do some proper arbitrating. Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 15:13, 27 February 2021 (UTC)


 * The experienced arbs knew what to do: decline or recuse. We talk about one of these. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:14, 27 February 2021 (UTC)

DYK for Wilhelm Knabe
M AN d ARAX •  XAЯA b ИA M  00:06, 26 February 2021 (UTC)
 * for future - thank you for the update, Mandarax! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:01, 26 February 2021 (UTC)

Lester Collins
Hello, I recently created a stub for Lester Collins, the longtime director of Innisfree Garden. Feel free to work on it if you are interested. He had quite an exciting life! Best, Thriley (talk) 03:58, 27 February 2021 (UTC)
 * That's great, - next week! - I do one article per day, no more, and when they die, like Boettcher (above), I change plans. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:12, 27 February 2021 (UTC)

DYK for Doris Stockhausen
Cwmhiraeth (talk) 00:01, 28 February 2021 (UTC)

FAC mentor
I saw you are a mentor when it comes to music articles for FA. I was wondering if you could please help me with prose issues for Shoot for the Stars, Aim for the Moon? I really want the article to be FA. The Ultimate Boss (talk) 08:16, 28 February 2021 (UTC)
 * The Ultimate Boss, I can look if we have a bit of time, - I began a FAC review yesterday, and other things need me. I decline wishes for arbitration: patience please. English is not my native language, so prose might be where can help least. This page is well watched, though, perhaps someone looking might be inspired? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:12, 28 February 2021 (UTC)

RexxS
Thank you for Colons and asterisks, User:RexxS/Infobox factors, and the precious anniversary template that I use every day. I heard my song of defiance yesterday, and Ich lasse dich nicht, du segnest mich denn, BWV 157 (I will not let you go ...) - dance music for a funeral - but let go. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:01, 1 March 2021 (UTC)


 * --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:57, 12 April 2021 (UTC)

--Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:58, 5 March 2021 (UTC)

for context: User talk:Hammersoft, or: before going to arbcom, try person-to-person talk, and then you hopefully don't have to go to arbcom - caution, long, in a nutshell (Hammersoft, 24 Feb, bolding by me): "I have a much simpler guide to arbitration. After spending many months working on it, cutting a word here, finessing a phrase there, I finally arrived at the final version. Here it is, the Ultimate Guide to Arbitration: Don't." Don't. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:15, 7 March 2021 (UTC)

Today's little tribute: Vertraut den neuen Wegen - trust the new ways. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:53, 13 March 2021 (UTC)

... last line: Das Land ist hell und weit. The land is bright and wide. (written in 1989 in Germany's East, when it was dark and narrow.) Trust the new ways. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:51, 14 March 2021 (UTC)
 * SMirC-sad.svg, me too!! <span style="text-shadow:#F8F8FF 0.2em 0.2em 0.2em,#F4BBFF -0.2em -0.2em 0.2em,#BFFF00 0.4em 0.4em 0.5em;color:#A2006D"> Atsme 💬 📧 18:31, 11 April 2021 (UTC)

Motivation barnstar

 * Thank you, Swarm, and how I need it right now, myself. - You are wrong though, twice: It's rather selfish because a round of checking what there is to be thankful for, at the beginning of the day, improves my mood, and I receive many thanks for the reminders, - almost undeserved because they are now so easy that RexxS made me the template where all I have to do is pick the right number. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:18, 1 March 2021 (UTC)


 * I'm sure we'd never want you to be "unsung", Gerda! Martinevans123 (talk) 10:27, 1 March 2021 (UTC)
 * slow Mozart is not bad for my mood - one of my missing friends was inheritance of loss --Gerda Arendt (talk) 17:45, 1 March 2021 (UTC)

DYK for Lasst uns Gott, dem Herrn, lobsingen
Cwmhiraeth (talk) 12:02, 1 March 2021 (UTC)

DYK for Vera Wülfing-Leckie
&mdash; Amakuru (talk) 00:02, 2 March 2021 (UTC)
 * March, march. women ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:24, 2 March 2021 (UTC)

reverted your message
apologies, changed mind... JarrahTree 14:29, 2 March 2021 (UTC)
 * no apologies! relief! ... look for "loss" above, it's more than enough --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:25, 2 March 2021 (UTC)

DYK nomination of Lester Collins (landscape architect)
Hello! Your submission of Lester Collins (landscape architect) at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and some issues with it may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) at your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know!  Volunteer Marek  18:55, 2 March 2021 (UTC)

Hi Gerda, on the Lester Collins (landscape architect) article (nom'd for DYK) would it be possible to expand it just a bit more, maybe by adding a bit more detail about the garden mentioned in the hook? Other than that, the article should be good to go. Thank you.  Volunteer Marek  18:55, 2 March 2021 (UTC)

Carmen
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Carmen is an opera in four acts which Georges Bizet set to a libretto by the team of Henri Meilhac and Ludovic Halévy, based on Prosper Mérimée's novella. When it was first performed by the Opéra-Comique in Paris on 3 March 1875, its breaking of conventions shocked and scandalized its first audiences.

The opera was originally written with musical numbers and spoken dialogue. Set in southern Spain, it tells of the downfall of Don José, a naïve soldier who is seduced by the fiery gypsy Carmen, and finally kills her in a jealous rage. The depictions of proletarian life, immorality, and lawlessness broke new ground in French opera. Bizet died suddenly after the 33rd performance, unaware that the work would achieve international acclaim within the following ten years. Carmen has become one of the most frequently performed operas, with the "Habanera" and the "Toreador Song" among the best known of all operatic arias. The music has been acclaimed for its brilliance of melody, harmony, atmosphere and orchestration, and for Bizet's skill in expressing the emotions and suffering of his characters.

"... in expressing the emotions and suffering of his characters" - worded admirably by Brianboulton, and the apt image added by Voceditenore - great teamwork! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:57, 3 March 2021 (UTC)

Some falafel for you!
I love it!! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:32, 3 March 2021 (UTC)

Bärenreiter
I said that I had succeeded in getting the pdf file of the book by Uhde and Wieland. Obviously it's easier for you to read. It is geared to musically aware readers. I can send you a copy as an attachment if you want (using google drive if need be). Mathsci (talk) 21:15, 3 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Thank you for the offer, Mathsci. I don't get to reading much but perhaps I should change that ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:20, 3 March 2021 (UTC)
 * I've just sent the Bärenreiter ebook to you as an attachment. It's curious that in Volume 3 of the Bärenreiter Verlag edition of Schubert's late piano duets (D 908, 940, 947, 951 and 952), the score is not rendered as Primo/Secondo, with facing pages, but on single pages with 4 staves. It has the advantage that duetists can see both parts simultaneously. The same 4-stave procedure is used in the ebook. For the Dover paperbook of Schubert selected piano duets, however, the traditional method is used: it's just copied from the 19th-century Breitkopf & Härtel edition. Mathsci (talk) 12:49, 4 March 2021 (UTC)

Hey
Hi Gerda, just so you know I've nominated Featured and good topic candidates/Walt Whitman and Abraham Lincoln/archive1, which includes "When Lilacs Last in the Dooryard Bloom'd", an article you've substantially contributed to. Hope all is well, Eddie891 Talk Work 21:45, 4 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Thank you, - that was a strange experience, polish something written by a banned editor. Did you tell Victoria? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:51, 4 March 2021 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Sehet, wir gehn hinauf gen Jerusalem, BWV 159
The article Sehet, wir gehn hinauf gen Jerusalem, BWV 159 you nominated as a good article has been placed on hold. The article is close to meeting the good article criteria, but there are some minor changes or clarifications needing to be addressed. If these are fixed within 7 days, the article will pass; otherwise it may fail. See Talk:Sehet, wir gehn hinauf gen Jerusalem, BWV 159 for issues which need to be addressed. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Aza24 -- Aza24 (talk) 04:01, 5 March 2021 (UTC)

DYK for Volker Wangenheim
&mdash; Amakuru (talk) 12:02, 5 March 2021 (UTC)

Helga Krause
Hi Gerta, I recently made an article for German film editor Helga Krause. I am having trouble finding sources for her. An obituary would be quite helpful. Could you possibly check for some sources for her? I think the article would be a wonderful DYK. Thank you, Thriley (talk) 06:48, 7 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Tidied up the translation. Very difficult to find sources. Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 09:03, 7 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Thank you, Kudpung. - Will look later today. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:14, 7 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Thriley, thanks for the article, I looked now. Sources will be a problem, as film editors aren't as much in the spotlight as director. I made some links work, and wrote one interlanguage link as an example, ill. You can please look for more. Also, there's no need for Director, director would do. Example for ill: Liane (film), result: Liane (film). If the English name (first parameter) is equal to the displayed name (fourth parameter), the fourth is not needed. If the English name is equal to the German name (third parameter) the third is not needed. Do you understand? Then please handle all these films and people ;) - I have no time for source digging yet. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:46, 7 March 2021 (UTC)
 * I added one source, and cats. Please do the film formatting. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:05, 7 March 2021 (UTC)
 * ,, Thank you both for your help! I am a sloppy editor and am still working on my manners. I feel so sad that there seems to be no obituary for Helga. Perhaps it is on microfiche on the shelf of a reference library? Thriley (talk) 02:21, 8 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Thriley, your manners are great, - it's just formalities (the italics) and the connection to other Wikipedias which helps readers and future translators, - may there be many, - how many interlanguage links in that article alone? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:38, 9 March 2021 (UTC)

DYK for Polly Batic
Cwmhiraeth (talk) 00:03, 8 March 2021 (UTC)

International Women's Day --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:25, 8 March 2021 (UTC)

DYK for Andréa Guiot
Cwmhiraeth (talk) 12:02, 8 March 2021 (UTC) IWD II --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:08, 8 March 2021 (UTC)

Best Wishes for today, with respect (Women's Day ...)
... sorry I don't know how to put a flower icon now) Liebe Gerda, Ich wünsche Dir alles Bestens für heute mit viele Respekt!(KIENGIR (talk) 14:01, 8 March 2021 (UTC))
 * Danke! Look around, two women the team (LouisAlain, Grimes2) worked on for DYK, and a friend's article TFA - so far so good. Carmen mentioned again on the Main page also good. Missing a friend is not, - stealing the image from the TFA ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:42, 8 March 2021 (UTC)
 * I saw the recruitment advertisement tag at the top, how many women will join WP today? :) (KIENGIR (talk) 14:51, 8 March 2021 (UTC))
 * Good Job! Your hard work is very much appreciated. P  anini 🥪 01:49, 9 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Thank you, now going to praise you for your first TFA, - enjoy! - My work is not hard, - hard are the things I don't get done. I'd love more arbitration , not what we know here under that name. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:38, 9 March 2021 (UTC)

DYK for William Wernigk
Cwmhiraeth (talk) 00:02, 10 March 2021 (UTC)

DYK for Peter Wollny
&mdash; Amakuru (talk) 12:02, 10 March 2021 (UTC)
 * (reply to post further up) Well, Francis said it might be misunderstood as Mahler having made it, vs. owned it, and I said so a few hours ago on WP:ERRORS, but no reaction I noticed. For our average readership, it may be good enough. I'll change if it gets changed on the Main page. Francis made the red link, and the news came around while a different fact (about BWV 20) was already approved, - "in the news" for once, - I like that. The ITN section reports deaths, sports wins, desasters, politics, - nice to have a cultural news item for a change, even if in the "wrong" section. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:55, 10 March 2021 (UTC)
 * I got changed! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 17:48, 10 March 2021 (UTC)

Precious anniversary
Bless you, Gerda, und bleib gesund! Bermicourt (talk) 16:20, 10 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Thank you, and same! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 17:48, 10 March 2021 (UTC)

Double organ
Thanks for the thanks earlier today. Perhaps you can help with the case of Thomas Adams which is complex as I find that there's more than one of them! Perhaps you have access to good reference works which can help us forward... Andrew🐉(talk) 18:08, 10 March 2021 (UTC)
 * I'll try, but have nothing special. Did you ask Classical music also? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 18:58, 10 March 2021 (UTC)
 * The deletion sorting will probably suffice to attract other experts. While the clues that you have provided are already working out well enough – many thanks.  You will be especially interested to see that I have made a start on an infobox!  Looking for one to copy, I found that few English organist articles seem to have them.  You have your work cut out for you... Andrew🐉(talk) 00:30, 11 March 2021 (UTC)


 * My interest in infoboxes is simple: why not? My interest in infobox discussions is zero, waste of time. My interest in arbitration: same. Just yesterday, Ritchie reminded us that there were two arbcases about infoboxes. Right. The first one was my first encounter with the system, and it was actually interesting in the workshop phase where I designed the infobox for Beethoven. But the second case, I didn't participate. If a third comes up - highly unlikely - I will not participate. Waste of time. Flyer22. I make my infoboxes, and you make yours ;) - no need to talk about it. Why should an organist not have an infobox? ... or a composer? ... why revert the creations of others, intended to help the vision-impaired and those not so good in English? The English Wikipedia has more articles than others, so will be read by many around the world who don't have these articles in thir languages. Why not give them easy access? - See also: User talk:Hammersoft --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:23, 11 March 2021 (UTC)


 * Here's another one from today's prod patrol for your consideration, please: Karl Friedrich Görner.  They mainly seem to appear in sources as having assisted Mozart in a recital but perhaps there's more to find in the German language. Andrew🐉(talk) 11:03, 11 March 2021 (UTC)
 * ... and not even a German article, only a red link for Carl ... - I'll see, but have a DYK nom to make today, want to write the article of the day, and promised to finish two FAC reviews --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:22, 11 March 2021 (UTC)
 * No pressure or rush. The worst case seems to be that we would merge into the article about his father, who seems more notable. Andrew🐉(talk) 11:28, 11 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Can't find any sources for Karl Friedrich Görner. Merge: +1. Grimes2 (talk) 11:54, 11 March 2021 (UTC)

ITN recognition for Dmitri Bashkirov
remembered --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:23, 11 March 2021 (UTC)

DYK for Joachim Herz
— Maile (talk) 00:02, 11 March 2021 (UTC)

Revert
Sorry - didn’t mean to revert you. Fat fingers. I’ve rolled myself back. KJP1 (talk) 06:38, 11 March 2021 (UTC)
 * No problem, KJP1. Once you are here, you may be interested in the section, and what I just wrote for Andrew (and Ritchie and all), - related. How is life for you? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:23, 11 March 2021 (UTC)

<div class="user-block" style="padding: 5px; margin-bottom: 0.5em; border: 1px solid #a9a9a9; background-color: #ffefd5; min-height: 40px"> You have been blocked indefinitely from editing because it appears that you are here to build an encyclopedia. Your cheerful demeanour runs the risk of marking WP:ANI historical, which will deprive administrators of work.

.... sorry. Fat fingers. I've rolled myself back. <b style="color:#7F007F">Ritchie333</b> <sup style="color:#7F007F">(talk) <sup style="color:#7F007F">(cont)  13:15, 11 March 2021 (UTC)
 * admins with too little work, watch over WP:ITNN - what we call recent deaths is often no more recent once the first reviewer appears, who will cry for more work, which takes time, and more time will elapse until it's declared ready, and more until finally an admin moves it to the news, - not my idea of "recent". I bother El C for a shortcut, but would happily not bother him too often. Bashkirov today (who died 7 March!), listen - DYK that I played in a school puppet theatre to that music, holding Orpheus when he says that he lost Eurydike? Dietrich Fischer-Dieskau singing (in German), Ferenc Fricsay conducting. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:56, 11 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Because John Scofield is a super-nice guy! Erm, sorry, wrong tangent. Gerda, your clean block log greatly perturbs and enrages me! Grr. El_C 14:04, 11 March 2021 (UTC)
 * I got a shock, but Bashkirov piece calmed me down. Grimes2 (talk) 14:32, 11 March 2021 (UTC)

Christ lag in Todes Banden, BWV 4 scheduled for TFA
This is to let you know that the Christ lag in Todes Banden, BWV 4 article has been scheduled as today's featured article for April 4, 2021. Please check the article needs no amendments. If you're interested in editing the main page text, you're welcome to do so at Today's featured article/April 4, 2021, but note that a coordinator will trim the lead to around 1000 characters anyway, so you aren't obliged to do so.

For Featured Articles promoted recently, there will be an existing blurb linked from the FAC talk page, which is likely to be transferred to the TFA page by a coordinator at some point.

We suggest that you watchlist Main Page/Errors from the day before this appears on Main Page. Thanks! <b style="font-family:Lucida;color:red">Jimfbleak</b> - talk to me?  16:37, 12 March 2021 (UTC)

Mohamed Abdullahi Mohamed
I appreciate your comments on my talk page thanking me for improving articles, it does help to give me hope and courage. I have been editing Wikipedia for over five years now, and always try to do my best. Since I started editing I have received little to no criticism over my edits, until very recently. For this reason I have not necessarily had the need to check guidelines frequently or had to participate in resolving disputes and I have not got to know other editors through discussions on talk pages either. In late December 2020 an admin challenged one of my edits to the above article. They then went on to accuse me of biased editing. I felt that the tone of the accusations was rather rough, as the admin then began inviting other editors they knew to join in what felt like a bullying campaign against me. Attempts were made to delete my edits to the article with very little attempt to balance negative content by adding anything positive to the article, and my edits were described as a 'laundry list', which I felt was insulting and derogatory. More recently, this behaviour has started up again. Even when I try to do something positive like inviting new editors to review the article and make some additions of my own, I am getting it thrown back at me with links to previous discussions and repetitions of these accusations. I don't mind them saying that most of my edits to the article have been negative, it is true and I still believe it is an accurate reflection of the vast majority of media coverage on the topic. I have felt so alone on this because as I say I have not had much direct communication with other editors throughout my Wikipedia editing experience. I am wondering if I can find anyone who is willing to see my point of view and understand rather than being confrontational and in the case of the admin who started this campaign against me, completely unwilling to communicate with me about it now. Perhaps these people having been working together on other articles in the past, and when they want someone to support their point of view they just ping each other or leave messages on each other's talk pages. I don't even want to name the admin who started this here, because if I do so they will just continue to add the same comments and links here in a confrontational manner as they have done in other places such as the article talk page. I know they are entitled to give their side of the story, but it has already been said, over and over again. Please, can you give me any help or advice as to what I should do about this situation? Amirah  talk  19:10, 12 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Sorry, I was out. Now I looked at the article, - a topic I am not familiar with, actually not with other politicians, and then with elections ongoing where I understand that things are heating up. I don't think it would be helpful if I got in at this point. An extreme solution would be to unwatch the article and do something else. If that's not for you, is there a project? Please check. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:18, 12 March 2021 (UTC)


 * Ok I will, thank you for this advice. Amirah   talk  22:45, 12 March 2021 (UTC)

DYK for Lob Gott getrost mit Singen
&mdash; Amakuru (talk) 00:01, 13 March 2021 (UTC)

Missing Award Reward!

 * thank you, music welcome, will listen - I wrote about a little song today, wedding to politics, last line (for you lyrics translator): "Das Land ist hell und weit". - "Land" with a broad meaning, from countryside to nation, and "weit" with a broad meaning, wide, open, broad, expansive, - how about "wide open"? - Written in a country that wasn't at the time. Vertraut den neuen Wegen --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:16, 13 March 2021 (UTC)
 * "I can't stop the force —ooooh— And grant this missing reward..." El_ (Stasi-approved?) C 15:26, 13 March 2021 (UTC)
 * I don't understand her, sorry, - her slow oooouuuuhs are lovely but don't get to my heart. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:33, 13 March 2021 (UTC)

I guess I'll just have to try harder and/or maybe give your heart another chance to be gotten...? Lyrics added! El_C 15:45, 13 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Thank you. Will go face arbitration. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:49, 13 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Of course, all roads lead to ! El_C 15:58, 13 March 2021 (UTC)
 * not for supplying evidence of right-doing --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:01, 13 March 2021 (UTC)
 * In Soviet Russia, evidence supplies ArbCom to you! El_C 16:03, 13 March 2021 (UTC)

DYK for Lester Collins (landscape architect)
&mdash; Amakuru (talk) 12:02, 15 March 2021 (UTC)

Please help with a brief German translation
How would you translate "Keine Ehrung von Türkischen Völkermordern in Deutschland"? (Needed for my draft article Assassination of Talat Pasha.) I think it means something like "No honor for Turkish genocide perpetrators in Germany" but I'm not sure. Thanks in advance. (t &#183; c)  buidhe  00:18, 17 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Tricky, buidhe. First thing: "Völkermördern", one more Umlaut. "honor" is Ehre, my translater suggests "honors" instead to suggest that it's not what someone has (being honorable), but given/granted from others, like "award". Better ideas welcome. "Völkermord" is "genocide", but the way of naming those who actually commit it ("Mörder" = murderer, killer) is something German can do, but I'm not sure in English, It begins with no killing in the harmless sounding "genocide". No award/honors to those who commit genocide. More help welcome. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:30, 17 March 2021 (UTC)
 * The German phrase, taken on its own, is even in German not clear. But as always, context matters; see Die Ehrung von Talaat Pasha durch nationalistische Türken endete als Flop. As buidhe's draft article points out, it's about bestowing some kind of award/honour to Talaat Pasha in Berlin in March 2006. I think buidhe's proposed translation is just fine. -- Michael Bednarek (talk) 09:26, 17 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Thank you. The translation was from the uploader of the pic. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:29, 17 March 2021 (UTC)


 * I greatly appreciate the input. Definitely helpful in helping to translate this phrase. (t &#183; c)  buidhe  20:39, 17 March 2021 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

 * blushing deeply: Kohlrabi Pickle, I try. Kohlrabi today, in the fridge already ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:30, 17 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Hehe, make some pickle out of it! Kohlrabi Pickle (talk) 10:13, 17 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Gerda, I wanted to share with you that I have created a mini-award to recognise and affirm members of the small community that works on Singapore-related articles. I hope I'm able to bring some of your positivity to this little corner of Wikipedia! Kohlrabi Pickle (talk) 05:01, 27 March 2021 (UTC)
 * That's a lovely idea! The recipient will know what the prize name is, I didn't ;) - I had to understand that the foreign language IS a prize name, and therefore the "(Wikipedia)" made some sense. What do you think of having s translation or explanation instead of the neutral "An award for you", and/or an image that connects immediately to Singapore? ... as the sapphire connects immediately to its photographer who passed the "earlier" stars of "awesome Wikipedian" for several years, my model ... (now blocked), or as the cherry connects to the one who gave it to me ... (then desysopped, and dead, but remembered). --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:44, 27 March 2021 (UTC)

Did you know nominations/Mesude Çağlayan
Hi! Thank you for your review. In order to make any mistake, I would like ask you if I have to change all the "opera" by "composer" into "composer's" "opera" form without wikilinking the "composer"? No details are given in the source for the roles of Çağlayan in the operas she performed. Is it OK when I change the hook as "... for her role as the Japanese woman in the same named opera in the 1940s?" ? CeeGee 08:49, 17 March 2021 (UTC)
 * That was no review yet, just seeing things from an opera person's point of view. Being a soprano, she can have sung Micaela or Frasquita in, certainly not Carmen, although Callas did it ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:57, 17 March 2021 (UTC)

DYK for Rudolf Deman
&mdash; Amakuru (talk) 12:03, 17 March 2021 (UTC)

Happy St. Patrick's Day

 * Thank you, TimothyBlue, for the green! (I corrected the html.) My music for the day: ... that Arvo Pärt composed the motet The Deer's Cry on a commission from Louth, Ireland, setting the conclusion of Saint Patrick's Breastplate, "Christ with me"? (listen) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 17:27, 17 March 2021 (UTC)

Plattdeutsch
See this and the information I removed. You probably know more about German and it's varieties/dialects/related languages than me. Danke, RandomCanadian (talk / contribs) 20:10, 17 March 2021 (UTC)
 * The language difficulty seems more about reliable sources than dialects of German. Which is hard. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:29, 17 March 2021 (UTC)

Die Fliege top icon
Hi Gerda, I hope you're well. I've just created a Die Fliege top icon that I thought you might be interested in. I haven't added any user categories yet. I was wondering if it's permissible to add top icons to the user pages of other editors who have moved on, in which case it could add them to "Category:Users who are no longer with us" or words to that effect. Or perhaps it's better if editors just add it to their own user page, in which case I'm not sure of any suitable categories would be appropriate. Any ideas? <b style="font:1.3em/1em Trebuchet MS;letter-spacing:-0.07em"><b style="color:#000">nagual</b><b style="color:#ABAB9D">design</b></b> 02:30, 18 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Thank you for coming, just when I had to add one of the saddest losses, Yoninah. I'd leave it to users. You could offer a topicon, but I think that the creature looks alive is its charm. When I die, I want my user talk as it is no candle, no extra icons, as for the great SBHB. -- Yoninah and I made my last Christmas card, DYK? (pictured on top) We worked on Psalm 148, and I asked if she wanted an extra DYK for the psalm, and she - great soul - said it was alright as a double nom. She was a blessing. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 05:59, 18 March 2021 (UTC)
 * I'm sorry to hear that. Good point about not making changes to an editor's user page. I won't add any usercats to the template. Best wishes, <b style="font:1.3em/1em Trebuchet MS;letter-spacing:-0.07em"><b style="color:#000">nagual</b><b style="color:#ABAB9D">design</b></b> 22:27, 18 March 2021 (UTC)
 * I added Die Fliege to her talk, and someone removed it as looking like a computer virus. - I smiled and restored it. I wrote a little article in Yoninah's memory: I checked out Psalm 148 (Bernstein) which turned out to be extra interesting, his earliest surviving work recorded in a collection "A Jewish Legacy", of all titles. El C, that's also for you. YouTube video in the article. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:51, 18 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Beautiful rendition. Nice article. The man was an American treasure, much like Yoninah was a Wikipedia one. El_C 01:42, 19 March 2021 (UTC)
 * You said that well. The article will grow a bit, and then go to DYK where she worked miracles. Psalm 85 appeared pictured, DYK? - The work we began is at WP:QAI/Psalms: missing numbers, missing Hebrew text, missing leads, missing details. She helped with 59. The recipe is at WT:QAI. Inspiration promised. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:33, 19 March 2021 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Sehet, wir gehn hinauf gen Jerusalem, BWV 159
The article Sehet, wir gehn hinauf gen Jerusalem, BWV 159 you nominated as a good article has passed ; see Talk:Sehet, wir gehn hinauf gen Jerusalem, BWV 159 for comments about the article. Well done! If the article has not already appeared on the main page as a "Did you know" item, or as a bold link under "In the News" or in the "On This Day" prose section, you can nominate it within the next seven days to appear in DYK. ... Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Aza24 -- Aza24 (talk) 08:21, 18 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the review, Aza! The article appeared on DYK, ... that Picander used one of the sayings of Jesus on the cross for an aria in Bach's cantata Sehet, wir gehn hinauf gen Jerusalem, BWV 159, for the last Sunday before Lent? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:27, 18 March 2021 (UTC)
 * No problem, and good to hear about the DYK. Your Bach DYKs always make the section more interesting...! Aza24 (talk) 08:35, 18 March 2021 (UTC)
 * This one was in 2011. I did it like Bach and wrote one every week then ;) - Most were approved by Rlevse who was then a pillar of DYK, as Yoninah was for the last years. I'll promised myself to bring Chichester Psalms to GA in memory of her, after today's little tribute, Psalm 148 (Bernstein). Psalm 148 was our last work together, and went to my Christmas card because she modestly declined to say something extra for the psalm, - she should have gotten that role model barnstar. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:43, 18 March 2021 (UTC)

Thanks for the Precious Anniversary note
Dear Gerda, thanks for your little note and for making wp nicer. By way of a nice thing in return... I thought to share a now unpopular, once very popular, litte tune from long ago that is haunting me Binge's Elizabethan Serenade. Best wishes (Msrasnw (talk) 10:22, 18 March 2021 (UTC))
 * Msrasnw, thank you for the music, very welcome, - seeking solace, see just above. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:26, 18 March 2021 (UTC)

DYK for Elsa Dreisig
&mdash; Amakuru (talk) 12:02, 18 March 2021 (UTC)
 * I heard the Rameau, Simon Rattle conducting. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:42, 19 March 2021 (UTC)

A translated song just for you!
His Salvation by Quarter To Africa, ft. Avishai Cohen (bassist) (who has also collaborated with the legendary Chick Corea).

Lyrics:
 * Salvation of the Lord, in the blink of an eye
 * In the blink of an eye, his salvation
 * And he will sustain me in the meantime
 * And of his love, I will go on for another day

Yours always, El_C 15:37, 19 March 2021 (UTC)
 * You always know what is good for me. Here's your job: Hebrew to all missing psalms, not even 100. You could just add the numbers here, and I'll do the rest. 124 first, please. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:46, 19 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Good deed = job. I like that. Still, after my last experience Hebrew'ing Psalms: afraid — also for you! El_C 16:55, 19 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Remember that you just have to add in the edit summary that it's from our own source, - can't remember the name. Yoninah did it, - perhaps mention her as your model? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 17:03, 19 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Source was the מכון ממרא. Anyway, probably not today, I'm afraid. But remind me soon. El_C 17:32, 19 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Update: I at least got the basic infrastructure all set at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Quality Article Improvement/Psalms. El_C 23:59, 19 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Sure, and I gave the link at Yoninah's place, but all I expect from you would be adding the Hebrew text. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:49, 20 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Pressure, pressure. Take another song, instead! El_C 07:07, 20 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Oh, also, Mamre Institute is now live (quite brief, but that's all the Hebrew Wikipedia had). El_C 07:17, 20 March 2021 (UTC)

I just realized, after having clicked show more, that the YouTube video has English-language lyrics (only) already. Here they are:

Honestly, not to boast, but I think my Hebrew-to-English translation is better overall (even though, granted, it is their song). El_C 21:20, 20 March 2021 (UTC)
 * I agree ;) - What do you think of placing your translations on a user page, for more people to enjoy than just those who visit here? Do you know that we have, sparing you all these colons? Today's psalm was Psalm 31, nicely covered already. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:27, 20 March 2021 (UTC)
 * I mean, they say (in Hebrew) "in the blink of an eye" (כהרף עין) so why go with "instant"? Anyway, I guess I'll get around to refactoring it onto Songs from the homeland, but... feeling lazy today. El_C 21:39, 20 March 2021 (UTC)

Though I Walk by Quarter To Africa.

Lyrics:
 * Though I walk
 * Through the valley of the shadow of death
 * I shall fear no evil
 * For thou art with me [x2]


 * For thou art with me [x4]


 * Surely goodness and mercy
 * Shall follow me all the days of my life
 * And I will dwell in the house of the Lord
 * For ever [x2]


 * For ever
 * For ever
 * And I will dwell in the house of the Lord
 * For ever


 * For thou art with me [x8]


 * ...Though I walk

As always, El_C 07:07, 20 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Psalm 23 --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:16, 20 March 2021 (UTC)

Some uplifting vocal magic
Chick Corea's Spain (instrumental) is one of my favourite instrumentals (both to jam on the keyboards, as well as listen to). It's just such an inspiring and fun chord progression. But Gary Valenciano vocal rendition is absolutely bananas! Enjoy! El_C 14:19, 22 March 2021 (UTC)
 * indeed, thanks for sharing - time to do something about Psalm 124: tomorrow - today: two recently died lingering in ITNN --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:48, 22 March 2021 (UTC)

Prep 2
Hi Gerda, I've opted for a cropped image at Template:Did you know/Preparation area 2. Do let me know if that's a problem. Cheers, Eddie891 Talk Work 00:59, 20 March 2021 (UTC)
 * That's much better. Thank you for asking, that's a treat! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:49, 20 March 2021 (UTC)

DYK for Auf meinen lieben Gott
Cwmhiraeth (talk) 00:01, 21 March 2021 (UTC)

topic courage, much needed --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:46, 21 March 2021 (UTC)

FAC for the Short Symphony
Hello Gerda, I want to help promote the article Short Symphony to featured article status, but I am unsure of 1) whether a discography/recordings/performances list is necessary and 2) if such a list is necessary, how to efficiently compile sources for one. I tried reading some of the pages on WP:Discography as well as searching on my own, but I haven't been able to find any decent sources for recordings besides the two mentioned in sources already in the article. Any help or advice you can offer would be greatly appreciated. Thanks! GeneralPoxter (talk) 04:16, 21 March 2021 (UTC)
 * GeneralPoxter, good question, please be patient. Today, I begin late and with many things needing attention. Look at examples, BWV 1 has an "external" list of some recordings, BWV 22 has an internal list of some recordings. AllMusic is considered a reliable source, while Discogs is not, and best sources are good reviews, such as in Gramophone (magazine) and in international-musicweb.com. Bach's birthday! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:46, 21 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Thanks! AllMusic has a decent number of recordings so I'll start there. GeneralPoxter (talk) 13:43, 21 March 2021 (UTC)

A kitten for you!
This kitten is wishing you a happy Bach's birthday! I don't think even Johann Sebastian was as busy as you are, Gerda, working to make Wikipedia ever more musical. So please enjoy this beautiful day in springtime.

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 * Thank you, I try. (A friend here died, another left, another is blocked, my Bach birthday present BWV 1 lingers in FAC, my small one Bach-Chor Bonn is not yet written, but at least I got my ITN nom for a bass who died done, and now I need food.) Thanking you for thinking of Bach and me! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 18:19, 21 March 2021 (UTC)
 * update: The choir article was written but is still unreferenced. My song of defiance - against arbcom shortcomings on top of death and fear - will appear on DYK eventually, instead on that day. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:55, 22 March 2021 (UTC)

Thanks for sapphire
-- Silve  rije  21:04, 21 March 2021 (UTC)
 * thank you! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:55, 22 March 2021 (UTC)

DYK for Benjamin Appl
&mdash; Amakuru (talk) 00:02, 22 March 2021 (UTC)

West Germany
I am unsure why you would link West Germany for some but not others? GiantSnowman 12:25, 22 March 2021 (UTC)
 * I don't ever link to West Germany, unpiped. That was no country. When others link to it, I don't change it for politicians, for whom East or West may matter, especially when having been active during the period of separation. For painters, singers, conductors etc., I prefer a piped link showing Germany. The same way, I never show an unpiped link to Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart (unless here), because that common name was never used by the person. Usually I just say Mozart, and in the few cases I have to link, I pipe it. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:42, 22 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Regardless of your personal/political views, as far as we are concerned here on Wikipedia, West Germany was a country. GiantSnowman 12:47, 22 March 2021 (UTC)
 * We had several rounds of clarification on the talk, and I'm tired of it. It is a common name for a country, that's different. I'm born in it, in Germany. It was divided at the time. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:50, 22 March 2021 (UTC)

Nesterenko stirbt
Perhaps this would help? – Sca (talk) 12:45, 22 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Thank you. I don't see anything though that isn't already sourced and mentioned, nor do I know how respected the source is. If I missed something, please add. He - and the Australian soprano who died the same day - could use support ITNN. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:53, 22 March 2021 (UTC)

April editathons from Women in Red
--Megalibrarygirl (talk) 20:16, 22 March 2021 (UTC) via MassMessaging

DYK for Nicola Jürgensen
Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 12:02, 23 March 2021 (UTC)

one more in memory of Jerome Kohl --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:43, 23 March 2021 (UTC)

R. A. B. Mynors
Hello Gerda, I hope you are doing fine. I wanted to give you an update on the FA candidacy of R. A. B. Mynors we discussed earlier this year. The article has now got feedback from two helpful people at peer review and I've addressed the issues they raised. Before I nominate the article at FAC, I'd like to as whether you have any more tips on the article itself or on how to write the nomination statement. Thank you and best, Modussiccandi (talk) 12:41, 23 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Thank you for the reminder. Today seems a good day. Yesterday, a woman for ITN (see a bit above), and three people for last-day DYK nomination. But I'll first go outside. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:45, 23 March 2021 (UTC)
 * What a great idea! Today's weather is great where I live too. Looking forward to your advice. Modussiccandi (talk) 13:02, 23 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Thank you very much, Gerda, for your comments on the article. I have two more things I'd like to ask if you don't mind: 1) you suggested that I should cite all references in the bibliography. Does that mean I should represent the news items in the final bibliography? I wasn't sure because they don't have the same properties as the books and journal articles. 2) When writing up the nomination statement, should I mention you as a FAC mentor or do you prefer to be subsumed under the peer review which I was planning to mention? Best, Modussiccandi (talk) 21:17, 23 March 2021 (UTC)
 * For the first, there's no single recipe. I'd format the news the same way, but the question is whether to list by authors regardless, or in a separate section. In Kafka, with plenty of refs, we grouped them, but for the rather few here, they could also just go by name. Perhaps ask others. I'd be happy with being mentioned as peer reviewer. - One of my pet corrections is to change "studied under" by "studied with", and "under the baton of" by "conducted by", if you know what I mean ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:35, 23 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Thank you for this. After pondering the newspaper issue and looking at some other FAs, I've decided against listing the news sources in the reference section because I want to avoid having part of the list without names (the obituaries have no authors associated with them). I just wanted to let you know in case you wondered why I chose to disregard your suggestion. I wish you a good night, Modussiccandi (talk) 22:58, 23 March 2021 (UTC)
 * You decide. Jerome Kohl sorted those as Anon. - seen today in Orchestral Suite No. 3 (Enescu). --Gerda Arendt (talk) 23:08, 23 March 2021 (UTC)

DYK for Jakob Grün
&mdash; Amakuru (talk) 12:01, 24 March 2021 (UTC)

Congratulations
Your DYK hook about Jakob Grün drew 5,086 page views (424 per hour) while on the Main Page. It is one of the most viewed hooks for the month of March as shown at March 2021 DYK STATS. Keep up the great work! Cbl62 (talk) 18:34, 26 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Cbl62, thank you! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:20, 26 March 2021 (UTC)

DYK for Wie schön leuchtet der Morgenstern, BWV 1 discography
Cwmhiraeth (talk) 00:03, 25 March 2021 (UTC)
 * how lovely shines the morning star - Annunciation day - the land is wide and bright - --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:21, 25 March 2021 (UTC)

Yoninah's photo contributions
Would you say that Yoninah was a prolific image contributor? If so, then we should probably summarize her work at Commons and also post one of her best photos. What do you think? Edge3 (talk) 14:39, 25 March 2021 (UTC)
 * I'll check. I remember that she complimented me on one of mine. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:49, 25 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Edge3, yes, look, she had a nice display there, and whoever wants more can take it from there. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:52, 25 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Under "uploads", however, it's not only photos she took but also those she cropped for the Main page. The first one is one of mine, for example. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:55, 25 March 2021 (UTC)
 * My choice from "hers" would by this delicious thing. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:57, 25 March 2021 (UTC)


 * Do you still want the current image to remain on the obituary? I was thinking that we could replace it with something that Yoninah contributed herself. Edge3 (talk) 15:03, 25 March 2021 (UTC)
 * If we can't have 2, yes, hers, but it's just food, while the other is more cultural, showing more of her deep interest in education. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:05, 25 March 2021 (UTC)


 * We can try to put in two images. Just keep in mind that the Signpost editors might cut some content once we're finished. Edge3 (talk) 15:09, 25 March 2021 (UTC)

Psalms (in memoriam)

 * Ps 82-85 (starting at 6m30, Ps 84 at 13m45, though really no reason to skip the introit by Tallis, which is top class as you'd expect). RandomCanadian (talk / contribs) 16:50, 25 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Beautiful, thanks for sharing! - On Psalms, there's a question (somewhere in the beginning), about linking psalm recordings in Salisbury style, by a woman, in English. I don't know. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:34, 25 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Heard this while driving back home today. Another not particularly well known composer... RandomCanadian (talk / contribs) 20:01, 28 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Lovely! I like Zelenka a lot. I heard - in a concert for Reformation Day 1917, the 500 year biggy - one of his masses, combined with BWV 80. Today Graupner: great, a mature 1741 work, see above. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:24, 28 March 2021 (UTC)
 * 1917? :) I just did a quick lookup but found only record labels (1) (2). I'll have to look up in more scholarly sources when I get the time. Even if I do, no hope of getting this up and fast through DYK for thursday, right? RandomCanadian (talk / contribs) 20:28, 28 March 2021 (UTC)
 * sorry, typo, 2017 of course, when Reformation was celebrated 500 years, - life concert in Gütersloh, a relatives round birthday - was a nice idea to invite guests to that concert - Thursday is tough, but one can always try, - I nominated one for Friday yesterday, and another today --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:38, 28 March 2021 (UTC)
 * I have I penitenti al sepolcro del redentore, ZWV 63 for the time being. Will see if I can find better sources. RandomCanadian (talk / contribs) 20:42, 28 March 2021 (UTC) - Now moved to mainspace cause I found a book which almost certainly (99.9%) does talk about this... RandomCanadian (talk / contribs)  21:23, 28 March 2021 (UTC)

ITN recognition for Uta Ranke-Heinemann
"fairy tales you don't need to believe to have a living faith"

Promotion of Wie schön leuchtet der Morgenstern, BWV 1

 * Thank you, Gog, you were mild ;) - It's planned to appear on 25 March 2022. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:57, 26 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Proud I am not, it's the work of many, and I appreciate the help of former editors, reviewers and contributors, especially Francis Schonken, Mathsci and Thoughtfortheday. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:10, 27 March 2021 (UTC)

DYK for Wer unterm Schutz des Höchsten steht
Cwmhiraeth (talk) 00:02, 28 March 2021 (UTC) in the series psalms - in memory of Yoninah --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:58, 28 March 2021 (UTC)

Thank you...
...for arranging such beautiful tributes on Main Page for Yoninah, as well as the Signpost remembrance. I wish I had something as lovely and comforting to offer as you always seem to, but I will have to make do with my thanks and my condolences. I know if I am shocked and griefstricken, it must only be that much more so for you who worked so closely with her for so many years. Truly, I hope those memories may be a blessing. Innisfree987 (talk) 21:27, 28 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Thank you, - and yes, she was a blessing to last. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:29, 28 March 2021 (UTC)

Re:Modest flowers
Dear User:Gerda Arendt, thank you for your kind message on my talk page and for the article in The Signpost. User:Yoninah will certainly be missed. I appreciate you taking the time to honour her. May God bless you. With regards, AnupamTalk 00:22, 30 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Thank you for coming here, - a little blessing! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:29, 30 March 2021 (UTC)

Re:Precious
Dear User:Gerda Arendt, I am really grateful to you for the Precious award and this has made my day! I feel really special and am happy to know that my work is appreciated here! Many blessings on you! With warm regards, AnupamTalk 15:00, 31 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Thank you for coming again, Anupam, - you cure with kindness

DYK for Norddeutsche Philharmonie Rostock
— Maile (talk) 12:02, 30 March 2021 (UTC)

Anthony & Joseph Paratore
I much prefer to receive a notification telling me that you've noticed another article than one telling me an umpteenth article had been sent to the deepfreeze department. Thank you. LouisAlain (talk) 08:17, 31 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Thank you ;) - for watchers: I did send that note, and never - and never will! - the other. I heard that concert, mostly for children, DYK? They filled the hall (pictured) mostly with their grandparents ;) - It was - sadly - the last time I heard the pianists, I should update but how if we don't know? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:25, 31 March 2021 (UTC)

DYK for Ich will den Kreuzweg gerne gehen
Cwmhiraeth (talk) 00:01, 2 April 2021 (UTC)

Hey there!
I may be semi-retired these days but was thinking of you earlier. So this is just a quick drive-by messaging, to tell you that you are awesome and thank you for all that you do here!! :) - A l is o n  ❤ 04:03, 2 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Alison, blushing. I take it as a praise of teamwork. On the Main page now (on Good Friday): the Honan Chapel by Ceoil and friends, who invited me to it last year, and the above cantata, which I just heard and photographed, and nominated late, so could get to there only with friends making exceptions. I am thankful for that. I miss too many people (who died or have just given up, - I wrote He was despised in 2012 thinking not only of Jesus but what we do here to each other, and it still happens), so am especially thankful for each sign of life, like you coming over ;) I'd normally sing in choir today, and miss it, so try to interest some others in the music. Look around! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:26, 2 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Alison, when I added your line to the section, I read some again, and found treasures I had forgotten, from people who can't add, - overwhelming. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 05:44, 3 April 2021 (UTC)

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Christ lag in Todes Banden (Christ lay in death's bonds), BWV 4, is a chorale cantata for Easter by Johann Sebastian Bach, one of his earliest church cantatas. It is agreed to be an early work, partly for stylistic reasons and partly because there is evidence that it was probably written for a performance in 1707. Text and music are based on Luther's hymn of the same name, derived from medieval models. In each of seven vocal movements, Bach used the unchanged words of a stanza of the chorale and its tune as a cantus firmus. Although all movements are in E minor, Bach intensified the meaning of the text through a variety of musical forms and techniques. He performed the cantata again as Thomaskantor in Leipzig, beginning in 1724 for his first Easter there. Only this second version survived, scored for four vocal parts (soprano part pictured) and a Baroque instrumental ensemble with strings and a choir of cornetto and three trombones. John Eliot Gardiner described the cantata as Bach's "first-known attempt at painting narrative in music" and "a bold, innovative piece of musical drama".


 * Five years ago, when I improved this article, with the help of many, I thought of a dear person who had just died, Alison, and of the conductor who taught me the significance of the piece, and I knew sooner than Wikipedia that he had died. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:46, 4 April 2021 (UTC)

Happy Easter!
Happy Easter, Gerda! (I'm trusting it's Sunday when you read this.) I was wondering whether I should request an Image Review for the Mynors FAC. I've seen Buidhe do such a review for some candidates; I thought it might be useful to generate progress on the candidacy. Is it appropriate to ask them, or other editors who do these reviews (I've seen Nikkimaria do some), for a review? Or is is better etiquette to wait? All the best, Modussiccandi (talk) 22:27, 3 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Thank you and happy Easter to you! - I'd wait. More regarding Easter after sleep. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:37, 3 April 2021 (UTC)


 * Hello and good morning to you Gerda. We may not always agree on everything we discuss, but I would still wish to greet you a Happy Easter this year and may the rest of the year be a good one for you. Greetings. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 04:14, 4 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Thank you, and also to you. Thank you for coming over! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:46, 4 April 2021 (UTC)


 * Haec dies quam fecit Dominus. Exultemus et laetemur in ea. Alleluia! Happy Easter! Appreciate your help with the DYK, amongst others. I should have more free time available in a few weeks so any suggestions of something useful to be done? Thanks, RandomCanadian (talk / contribs)  04:19, 4 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Christians, awake, salute the happy morn, thank you for that one, true every day, and I just did. Last year, we thought of Penderecki's Haec dies quam fecit Dominus., - true every day. This year, we think of Yoninah and RexxS. May she rest in peace. For him, I silently hope for a resurexxSion. "Don't believe in miracles. Rely on them". (Mascha Kaléko)
 * Thanks. Makes me thing: heard this while driving this morning (FA suggestion for next year?); improvised on this (I've heard German tunes sung in French churches with the German lyrics, but considering even Latin is beyond my singers..., I had to content myself with improvising); and then heard this while driving back. Cheers, RandomCanadian (talk / contribs) 21:49, 4 April 2021 (UTC)
 * I seriously thought about Erfreut euch, ihr Herzen, for the second day of Easter, for 2023 because next year we try the Morgenstern ;) - Christ ist erstanden: see above, The Song, no Easter without it, and Brahms connects both to Yoninah and Alison, - our conductor did it as his farewell piece. DBaK, we had a trumpet yesterday! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:57, 4 April 2021 (UTC)
 * RandomCanadian, we (Germans) have an Easter hymn, "Bleibe bei uns, du Wandrer durch die Zeit". Text by de:Peter Gerloff (who is User:Rabanus Flavus), music just says "William Henry Monk 1861". Of which hymn originally? Per the metre, "Christians, awake" would even match. Of course we could ask the author ;) - Imagine: I found it: "Abide with Me". Close enough. Perhaps it's even a translation. Next year. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:25, 5 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Es ist gar keine Übersetzung. Auch, es ist etwas seltsam, dass die Beziehung zwischen die zwei Lieder ist nicht bezeicht (z.B. oder ). Though; the "Stay with us, for it is evening" theme is present in both songs (one as a direct quotation/paraphrase from the Emmaus story; the other as a more general prayer). The English hymn is also more commonly (but not exclusively) associated with funerals (somewhat anti-thematic for Easter?). Since you don't seem to have known it (I instantly recognised the melody), here's a good arrangement from Cambridge. Cheers, RandomCanadian (talk / contribs)  17:01, 5 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Hello to Gerda and all! As my name was mentioned here... The evening and decease hymn Abide with me has been turned into German by Theodor Werner, a Protestant pastor, in 1952: "Bleib bei mir, Herr! Der Abend bricht herein". This hymn is in the Evangelisches Gesangbuch (Nr. 488). I had known this version already before, and I always liked the melody, but my "Bleibe bei uns", indeed, is not nor wants to be a translation, but refers to the Emmaus gospel. The Gotteslob (2013) contains another version "Bleib bei uns, Herr" (Nr. 94) with the Monk melody, destinated for evening prayers, but this one is not a translation of Lytes text, either. - Dux vitae mortuus regnat vivus! Österliche Grüße, --Rabanus Flavus (talk) 17:47, 5 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Danke, und ebenfalls österliche Grüße! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 17:53, 5 April 2021 (UTC)

Happy Easter! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:46, 4 April 2021 (UTC)
 * A very happy Easter to you Gerda. As ever you include something for me to learn from and that is much appreciated. MarnetteD&#124;Talk 18:45, 4 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Yes, it has been a happy Easter for me. Christ is Risen indeed!--Epiphyllumlover (talk) 02:03, 5 April 2021 (UTC)

Precious
Thank you. I really appreciate that. Quetzal1964 (talk) 21:02, 5 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Thank you, Quetzal1964, you are quite welcome, share some of the egg present! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:05, 5 April 2021 (UTC)

DYK for Psalm 148 (Bernstein)
— Maile (talk) 12:02, 5 April 2021 (UTC) ... in the series Psalms, in memory of Yoninah --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:40, 5 April 2021 (UTC)

Le Sacre du printemps
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Le Sacre du printemps is a ballet and orchestral concert work by Igor Stravinsky. It was written for the 1913 Paris season of Sergei Diaghilev's Ballets Russes company, with choreography by Vaslav Nijinsky and stage designs and costumes by Nicholas Roerich. The ballet caused a near-riot in the audience when first performed, on 29 May 1913 at the Théâtre des Champs-Élysées in Paris, but rapidly achieved success, and later became recognised as one of the most influential musical works of the 20th century. The score has many novel features, including experiments in tonality, metre, rhythm, stress and dissonance. The scenario is the celebration of spring by primitive rituals; in the end a sacrificial victim dances herself to death. After its explosive premiere the ballet was not performed until the 1920s, when Léonide Massine's rechoreographed version was the first of many innovative productions by the world's leading choreographers. Providing "endless stimulation for performers and listeners" alike, Le Sacre is among the most recorded works in the classical repertoire. Article about Stravinsky's ballet by Brian Boulton, 50 years after the composer's death, Aza's idea, thanks to all. It had a scandaloous 1913 premiere - Aza's idea, thanks to all! The scandalous 2013 infobox discussion can be read, now with some smiles, in Archive 3. Don't forget: Rhythm is it! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:02, 6 April 2021 (UTC)

DYK for Herr, unser Herr, wie bist du zugegen
— Maile (talk) 12:01, 6 April 2021 (UTC)
 * The song was chosen by Werner Bardenhewer for a mass he held for his 90th birthday. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:48, 6 April 2021 (UTC)

DYK for Vertraut den neuen Wegen
— Maile (talk) 12:01, 7 April 2021 (UTC)
 * This - trust in new ways - was meant as a call to RexxS, hoping for a resurexxSion. Call to self, also. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:41, 7 April 2021 (UTC)

I hate to do this but ...
If I don't, somebody else will.

There is currently a discussion at Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. The discussion is about the topic Undue promotion of self-created articles about women composers by T. E. Meeks. Thank you. Graham 87 19:46, 7 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Seen, nothing serious, red link not needed. I told her that adding to psalm articles would work, - hope that wasn't misunderstood. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:50, 7 April 2021 (UTC)

DYK for Erna Schlüter
~  ONUnicorn (Talk&#124;Contribs) problem solving 00:02, 9 April 2021 (UTC)

Gardiner and Mendelssohn
I have a feeling you're a fan of both Gardiner and the Monteverdi choir. Have you heard Gardiner, the LSO & the Monteverdi Choir's recording of Mendelssohns's A Midsummer Night's Dream? The overture particularly is outstanding. Aza24 (talk) 05:21, 9 April 2021 (UTC)
 * talk Thank you! I like what Gardiner writes, it's accessible for people who didn't study music, makes the music come to life, and is - as Mathsci pointed out above - based on the great Whittaker. - I also like his image, - how could I forget to include it in the No. 1? I like his expression, and that a friend cropped it for me who then escaped this dismal swamp. Memories. nagualdesign, rarely has Die Fliege played as well as today. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:17, 9 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Whittaker! Musicologist don't get much attention on WP, do they? I just rewrote Gilbert Reaney today, a fantastic (and important) musicologist, but almost invisible to those outside the medieval and Renaissance music craze. You'll have to excuse my ignorance, by "Die Fliege", I assume Der fliegende Holländer? If I so, you'll love this...! Aza24 (talk) 06:43, 9 April 2021 (UTC)
 * LouisAlain translates plenty of musicologists, DYK? Thank you for the uplifting music!! - I smiled about your ignorance ;) - No, that sentence was for nagualdesign who designed Die Fliege (the fly), female in German, in memory of the dead and those who have just given up. Try to find a fly above, and a catcher ;) - The Holländer: not so good memories of a failed move request for the only stage work by Wagner with an English title. Ouvertüre zum "Fliegenden Holländer", wie sie eine schlechte Kurkapelle morgens um 7 am Brunnen vom Blatt spielt. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:56, 9 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Ugh, the English title is annoying at Der fliegende Holländer. If it makes you feeling better "I hope you will see to it that my works are performed in English; only in this way can they be intimately understood by an English speaking audience." Richard Wagner Oct 22 1877 . :) Aza24 (talk) 07:05, 9 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Would you make a RM? - At least I got the article article for Wagner to no longer proclaiming that he composed The Flying Dutchman. The last discussion was in 2013, I believe, and it was just no consensus, - so it might actually work now, with more and more houses not obeying his wish ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:15, 9 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Sure, I'll look into it later today and try to craft a thorough rationale. I think we have a shot too. Aza24 (talk) 19:23, 9 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Great! - Today - because of the DYK - I looked at Elektra (opera) which I should have done sooner. So far I just rearranged images, but it should be better in other respects as well, - help? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:29, 9 April 2021 (UTC)
 * See Talk:The Flying Dutchman (opera); I don't know that I have time to look at Elektra, regrettably. I have my hands tied with Edward Gibbons, and now trying to fix up Witold Lutosławski, so the latter can at least pretend to look like it deserves FA status! Aza24 (talk) 23:21, 10 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Thanks again for your FLC comments. I don't know if you saw the thread at WP:CM, but Hazel Harrison might interest you; she performed with the BPO and seems to have led a fairly impressive career. I myself just expanded John Thomas Douglass, which was a fun process, might even nominate for GA, who knows. Aza24 (talk) 07:46, 12 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Both interesting, thank you. I was busy - yesterday Psalm 115, on the last possible day for a DYK expansion in memory of Yoninah - so missed CM. Take Douglass there please! I'd use the music for a lead image. Where the music is described, there's not enough room, and it really supplies a good first impression for those who read music. Died when and where? (Sentence missing in the body, should be there even if not known.) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:57, 12 April 2021 (UTC)

DYK for Schlosspark, Brühl
&mdash; Amakuru (talk) 12:01, 10 April 2021 (UTC)
 * in the series garden, in memory of the first outing with my mother after her hip surgery --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:21, 10 April 2021 (UTC)

DYK for Michael Hampe
—valereee (talk) 12:01, 11 April 2021 (UTC)

DYK for Marita Napier
Gatoclass (talk) 00:02, 14 April 2021 (UTC)

Aga Mikolaj
I promoted Template:Did you know nominations/Aga Mikolaj to prep 2, but it was slightly too long so I removed the word "Polish". I'm open to another idea if that isn't acceptable to you. SL93 (talk) 21:03, 14 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Thank you for letting me know, - it's fine. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:05, 14 April 2021 (UTC)

DYK for Jesu, meine Freude, BWV 227
Cwmhiraeth (talk) 00:02, 15 April 2021 (UTC) see also, or: if I learned one thing here, it's patience. "Ich steh hier und singe" is all I had to do back in 2013. The description appeared on DYK on 23 May 2014: * ... that the hymn "Jesu, meine Freude" (Jesus, my joy) by Johann Franck and Johann Crüger mentions singing in defiance of the "old dragon", death, and fear? On Bach's birthday in 2020, I wanted the article about my signature song to be a GA. I failed, twice. - I keep singing. Take courage. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:23, 15 April 2021 (UTC)

Remembering Yoninah
Sigh, I'm at a loss of words, but I wish I knew her personally...She's definitely looking at me us now :') Vincent LUFan (talk) (Kenton!) 09:55, 15 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Same for me. Did you read what I found? Can I interest you in working on the psalms, in memory of her? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:05, 15 April 2021 (UTC)

DYK for Anja Petersen
Gatoclass (talk) 12:02, 15 April 2021 (UTC)

Madame Gavaudan
Hi Gerda: I've been noodling on the hook for Madame Gavaudan, and wondering if we can't come up with something more interesting. Right now it reads
 * ... that Madame Gavaudan, a soprano of the Opéra-Comique in Paris, created the role of Benjamin in Étienne Méhul's Joseph?

That might be of interest to opera buffs, but is unlikely to bring anyone else to her article. But reading it, I find some other tidbits. What do you think about a hook like this:
 * ... that because of her voice type and slender physique, soprano Madame Gavaudan regularly sang the roles of boys and young men for the Opéra-Comique in early 19th-century Paris?

What a reversal from Shakespeare's time, when women were played by pre-pubescent boys! MeegsC (talk) 12:18, 15 April 2021 (UTC)


 * Well, MeegsC, mezzos and some sopranos do that all the time, trousers role, - I'd like this particular opera being mentioned, which made my friend's RfA fail, see talk. I believe that Madame vs. Benjamin really tells an observant reader enough. It could be in the quirky position (if not pictured) to point at that, and no rush. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:25, 15 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Okay, no problem. It's already been promoted, so should be running in the next few days. MeegsC (talk) 12:36, 15 April 2021 (UTC)

Mynors FAC, again
Hello Gerda, I hope you are doing fine. Gog the Mild has indicated that the FAC for R. A. B. Mynors will soon be archived unless substantial progress is made. They've given me some advice and I've started to turn to some of the places they suggested. Would you have any other tips that might help the nomination along? Best, Modussiccandi (talk) 13:11, 15 April 2021 (UTC)
 * I'll look. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:53, 15 April 2021 (UTC)

About the lead not needing sources...
Could you please guide me to a policy that states this? I am a relatively new editor and would like to be informed of this. 晚安 14:15, 15 April 2021 (UTC)
 * MOS:CITELEAD: The presence of citations in the introduction is neither required in every article nor prohibited in any article. Grimes2 (talk) 14:23, 15 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Thank you, Grimes2. I only cite in the lead in the rare case that I quote there, which requires a citation. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:53, 15 April 2021 (UTC)

Draft:Weingut Schmitt's Kinder
Dear Gerda, is this currently the right format to draft an article? kind regardsSymposiarch (talk) 18:49, 15 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Yes, if you want it official. You could also draft in your user space. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 18:54, 15 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Thanks Gerda!!Symposiarch (talk) 20:45, 15 April 2021 (UTC)

Wishing you a good evening
Hello Gerda

Thanks once again for your latest addition to my talk page with interesting DYKs for me to look at. Most illuminating as ever. Today I took my children out of the city for a countryside walk in the beautiful county of Kent (known as the "Garden of England"). After looking at the duck pond in Otford, we climbed up the North Downs and then back down again with some fantastic views like the one you can see here. I hope your day has also been a good one! &mdash; Amakuru (talk) 22:06, 15 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Thank you, and yes, good, out in a Wiesbaden park in the afternoon (pictured), and just nominated the piece for PR! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:11, 15 April 2021 (UTC)

Schmücke dich, o liebe Seele
Evening, Gerda. I thought you might be interested to hear that this will be the first music at the Duke of Edinburgh’s funeral tomorrow. Moonraker (talk) 22:31, 16 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Thank you for telling us, excellent choice. Schmücke dich, o liebe Seele. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 05:44, 17 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Will that be Bach's prelude, BWV 654? We thank Mathsci. Last lines: "daß ich auch, wie jetzt auf Erden, mög dein Gast im Himmel werden." - that I may be your guest in heaven. Do you feel tempted to add a translation to the article? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:02, 17 April 2021 (UTC)
 * I see, of course Bach's prelude. Feel free to expand the others. I go outside. Will do Jubilate Deo (Britten) later today if nobody else does. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:23, 17 April 2021 (UTC)
 * This is the music. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:49, 17 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Also: William Lovelady who set Psalm 104. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:58, 17 April 2021 (UTC)

DYK for Aga Mikolaj
&mdash; Amakuru (talk) 00:01, 18 April 2021 (UTC)

DYK for Alexandrine Marie Agathe Gavaudan-Ducamel
&mdash; Amakuru (talk) 00:02, 19 April 2021 (UTC)

Hello!
Hi, Gerda! It seems you have found me in my obscurity. Nothing like a pandemic to bring one back to Sibelius! I have big plans for his compositions... Silence of Järvenpää (talk) 01:20, 19 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Silence of Järvenpää, yes, I was pleased to notice that your silence was broken - I remember the ice-breaking composition ;) - good plans, it seems. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 05:35, 19 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Pun not intended, I suspect? :) Silence of Järvenpää (talk) 02:02, 20 April 2021 (UTC)
 * When I wrote about that piece, Islossningen i Uleå älv, I thought about the frozen infoboxes situation, DYK? When was that, 2015? I found this image then, see also, and proclaimed on the Main page that it is a political statement (which was my political statement). It softened then, and the situation is much better now. Remember that I was called out for battleground behaviour in 2013 over the new infobox opera that I supported and used, and yesterday counted 1,524 of them. But it's still not over, see Mozart, or Joseph (opera). As if it wasn't enough that people die and leave, which made me take a different "frozen" pic. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:36, 20 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Well, you certainly have an ally (here and here) in me, Gerda! The infobox is the one thing on WP I will go to the mat for. Also, a request: I cannot figure out how to move Jungfrun i tornet to The Maiden in the Tower... I think we should do so because both modern recordings use the English title rather than the Swedish; unlike, say, Jedermann which is always presented in the Swedish on the Vänskä and Segerstam recordings. Silence of Järvenpää (talk) 18:38, 20 April 2021 (UTC)
 * It takes an admin to do that. Graham87, El C, anybody watching? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 18:45, 20 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Silence of Järvenpää, you may want to say something for Joseph, perhaps, but see below, you will be treated as one of my cohorts ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 18:47, 20 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Pictogram voting keep.svg Done. How's that for service? El_C 18:49, 20 April 2021 (UTC)
 * perfect! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 18:58, 20 April 2021 (UTC)
 * I was not aware we had such an avid creator of Sibelius content in our midsts :) I do wonder if you plan to take a look at Finlandia at some point, as it seems to get the most page views—I'd be willing to help out there if you do... Aza24 (talk) 18:51, 20 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Go ahead, you two. I created all these stubs for his round birthday, with great varied pics (from stern to caricature) for infoboxes. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 18:58, 20 April 2021 (UTC)

My apologies
Hi Gerda, you will have seen that the Mynors FAC was archived by Gog the Mild. My apologies for involving you in such a haphazard endeavour. I underestimated the need for a prose section on his publications. Gog's archiving comment sounded encouraging, so I think I am indeed going to do the required improvements and then try again. Thank you very much for all your help so far. I presume you will get a ping from me when the new nomination is posted. As ever, please let me know should you need my help with anything. Best, Modussiccandi (talk) 09:02, 20 April 2021 (UTC)
 * I haven't seen, but no problem, really. Don't get discouraged, work on it and try again. My experience with biographies for FA is zero, - perhaps Ergo sum and Eddie891 could help a bit? - What do you think about Joseph, mentioned just above. I also like help for BWV 157, anybody, about letting go or not. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:15, 20 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Thanks for your encouragement. I have started the peer review recommended by Gog the Mild, Eddie891 and ErgoSum can have a look there if they feel like it. I'm happy to chip in with Joseph (opera) - is it just the infobox question or would you like general feedback with a view to GA or such. Best, Modussiccandi (talk) 09:59, 20 April 2021 (UTC)
 * It's just that question that should not be one, imho, - for buildings, we have ramps for the handicapped, so why not infoboxes for those who - for whatever reason - can digest something structured better than prose? Be careful, it has been considered a battle cry to say so, and you may end up with a DS notice when you show interest in the field, and will be regarded as on of my "cohorts" ;) - My friend Montanabw - certainly one of my cohorts - failed in her RfA because of that particular 2015 discussion, DYK? If you want to become an admin some day, better stay away, seriously. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:40, 20 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Noted. I'd noticed that the issue was rather touchy. I can probably be most useful if you ever need help with a Germany related topic, which is where I think our interests overlap. (Thanks, by the way, for posting the Gera Demands DYK to WP Germany's DYK set. The hook made it onto the statistics page, which I thought was truly surprising.) Modussiccandi (talk) 10:55, 20 April 2021 (UTC)
 * We know that the issue was touchy in the past, - in 2012, fight over a book article, imagine. What's still touchy in 2021 is really beyond what I can understand. - For Germany, every hook mentioning Nazi gets 1k extra clicks or more, and East Germany some more. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:09, 20 April 2021 (UTC)

DYK for Bach-Chor Bonn
Cwmhiraeth (talk) 12:01, 20 April 2021 (UTC)

Fond memories of another choir doing "tours", every autumn to places without choirs our in other diaspora situation, such as the Christuskirche, Paris, and St. Petri Kirk, Copenhagen. A concert at short notice (because a planned one was cancelled) at Marktkirche, Wiesbaden, had Pepping's Missa Dona nobis pacem, and reading a favourable review was one of the composers last joys. Great memories! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:06, 24 April 2021 (UTC)

FAC Mentor
Hi ,

Would you be willing to help me promote Carillon to WP:FA? I have been working on this page for about two months, and I believe I am ready to seek outside help. You listed your name on WP:FAM, and it seems like this article isn't too far away from your area of expertise. Thrakkx (talk) 19:07, 20 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Yes, Thrakkx, I'm willing within my limitations, time-wise and knowledge-wise. I'll take a closer look, but possibly not today. I recommend you go for good article (WP:GA) first (Aza24 is a great reviewer), and then consider a peer review (WP:PR). I haven't seen a single FA that wasn't a GA before. Also read a bit above where I couldn't help a user, at least not in the first round. Patience is recommended. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:16, 20 April 2021 (UTC)
 * I see what you mean. Starting with WP:GA seems the best path forward. I'll check with Aza24 and start a review. Thanks! Thrakkx (talk) 19:24, 20 April 2021 (UTC)

Bärlauch
War auch spazieren. Herrlich! Bärlauch habe ich nicht gefunden, war auch nicht im Wald. Was machst Du aus dem Bärlauch? Grimes2 (talk) 10:18, 21 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Bike tour, Knoblochsaue, part of de:Kühkopf-Knoblochsaue, the wild garlic blossoming - see April pic - is just beginning, mostly near Schwedensäule. Leaves can be used for Pesto, or in salad, but I go more for flower pics. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:04, 21 April 2021 (UTC)
 * I was in summer at Kühkopf some years ago. There was a mosquito plague. Grimes2 (talk) 14:15, 21 April 2021 (UTC)
 * That's why I avoid summer there, but April - May is just fine. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:18, 21 April 2021 (UTC)

DYK for Dresdner Kapellsolisten
— Maile (talk) 12:02, 22 April 2021 (UTC)

Playwright Paul Vulpius
Hi Gerda. I have stumbled upon a research conundrum. I'm working on an article on a farce Help Yourself! which was staged on Broadway in 1936. The play's English language translation was by John J. Coman after the German (or maybe Austrian?) language original version by Paul Vulpius (no idea about his date of birth or death or nationality) which according to English language sources premiered in Vienna during an unspecified year and at an unmentioned theater. In searching through google books, I found several more mentions of other plays by Vulpius translated from both German and French into English by Coman and others (including Youth at the Helm) but absolutely no references about Vulpius himself or where his plays were mounted and when they were written or anything about Vulpius beyond he wrote these plays in these languages. He also wrote the script for a 1963 German film, see He is clearly notable with his works being staged in English in the US and UK, but I don't think anyone has written anything in English on this playwrite. Would you mind hunting through German language reference works and seeing if you can dig something up on the play and the playwright? I really don't think I could create an article on the play without knowing its origins (like when it was written?). There is lots of info on the Broadway production, including several pictures in the public domain through the Library of Congress (see: ), and I have access to reviews in The New York Times, Billboard, and Variety. The play was actually mounted by the Works Progress Administration, so its kind of an interesting time piece in American history when the government produced a play on Broadway; not something the American government normally does.4meter4 (talk) 21:13, 23 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Sounds interesting, but not today for me - in the middle of an article, and tired. It happens that no dates of birth are known. Had to deal with a soprano who wanted it removed ;) - Vulpius is also a Latin name, - some Germans gave themselves such a name, see Michael Praetorius, - perhaps the guy had also a German name? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:42, 23 April 2021 (UTC)
 * No idea. I have absolutely no more information on the man. There is no rush. Whenever you aren't busy and are willing to investigate is fine.4meter4 (talk) 21:50, 23 April 2021 (UTC)
 * According to, Paul Vulpius was a pseudonym of Ladislas Fodor. According to Youth at the Helm, it's a pen name of Hans Adler, also mentioned at de:Hans Adler (Autor). So there may be two of them. Aside: Vulpius is quite a famous surname in Germany, because Goethe married Christiane Vulpius. -- Michael Bednarek (talk) 02:57, 24 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Great search and finding, Michael! Memory lane just above. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:06, 24 April 2021 (UTC)
 * "Help Yourself was originally written after the First World War by the Austrian playwright Paul Vulpius. Vulpius was a somewhat popular playwright in Germany and Austria during the inter-war period, and was responsible for a popular play entitled Hau-rack (Heave Ho!). etc." from https://jadtjournal.org/2017/12/11/the-illusion-of-work-the-con-artist-plays-of-the-federal-theatre-project/#_edn33. It seems to be a pseudonym of Hans Adler (poet). Grimes2 (talk) 13:59, 24 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Lovely! I know the expression as Hauruck. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:33, 24 April 2021 (UTC)
 * It's a typo: Hau-ruck! (1933) https://digital.lb-oldenburg.de/ihd/periodical/pageview/381816. Grimes2 (talk) 16:53, 24 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Thankss everyone! Apparently Youth at the Helm and Help Yourself! are the same play, just different English translations. I wonder if I should just move the article to its original German name, and then build out the article about the play and its different stagings in German and English in one place? Gerda, and  I'm going to start a move discussion at Talk:Youth at the Helm if you all care to comment.4meter4 (talk) 22:51, 24 April 2021 (UTC)

Since you reviewed...
The FA book DYK, could you take a look at a similar nom of mine, this one stalled due to some minor issue? Could use a 30 there. Or 4th, I guess :) Template:Did you know nominations/The Auschwitz Volunteer: Beyond Bravery. Cheers, --<sub style="border:1px solid #228B22;padding:1px;">Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus&#124; reply here 04:29, 25 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Yes, but you'll need patience. Listening to BWV 6 today, and going outside. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:35, 25 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Piotrus, sorry, patience please, Christa Ludwig died, and I postponed everything else, and am not done as I write this. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:35, 26 April 2021 (UTC) - but now I got to it. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:21, 26 April 2021 (UTC)

DYK for Oper am Brühl
&mdash; Amakuru (talk) 12:02, 25 April 2021 (UTC)

Hi
Hi, Gerda, I just saw your answer on Christa Ludwig, and realized I hadn't exchanged any notes with you in a long time. Hello, hello, hello, I hope you are well and vaxxed and surviving the plague, which I hope will end soon as I am scheduled to chorus in a production of TURANDOT when the theaters can re-open.

Best wishes, HandsomeMrToad (talk) 07:46, 26 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Thank you, hoping with you but we'll need patience. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:00, 26 April 2021 (UTC)

DYK for Psalm 115
Cwmhiraeth (talk) 12:01, 26 April 2021 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

 * You are very welcome, keep the spirit! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:50, 27 April 2021 (UTC)

DYK for Herr, stärke mich, dein Leiden zu bedenken
Cwmhiraeth (talk) 00:02, 28 April 2021 (UTC)

Sunshine
I would most definitely be remiss if I did not acknowledge your incredible work and awe inspiring presence here in this encyclopedia. You are one of the most effectual people I have ever met, physically or otherwise. I mean that. When you smile the world forgets all it's troubles and smiles back. I truly believe you have that affect because I have experienced it myself. A cloudy day doesn't stand a chance with you. The light you give off is amazing and really brightens up everything around you. I don't know if you really know that but I just had to share it with you. Dream dreams, Sing songs, Dance, Laugh, Enjoy Life. What an adventure!! -- A Rose Wolf  14:22, 28 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Blushing deeply, dearest! You have an amazing way with words! Still working on Christa Ludwig, much admired. DYK that once, on 28 April, I took a pic of a double rainbow? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:30, 28 April 2021 (UTC)
 * DYK that every rainbow, in theory, is a double rainbow, but deflection of the light has to be just right to reveal it. That's the special part. The revelation of it's splendor and beauty is only shown to a select few in the right place and who are looking for it. Such a personal experience. You are truly blessed. -- A Rose Wolf  15:41, 28 April 2021 (UTC)

Thank you for supporting The Thankful Poor
Hello Gerda, thank you for supporting and improving The Thankful Poor from peer review all the way through FAC nomination. Cheers, GeneralPoxter (talk • contribs) 15:25, 28 April 2021 (UTC)
 * That was a pleasure! Congrats to your first FA, already nominated for TFA! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:29, 28 April 2021 (UTC)

May 2021 at Women in Red
--Rosiestep (talk) 21:36, 28 April 2021 (UTC) via MassMessaging

DYK for Olena Tokar
Cwmhiraeth (talk) 12:02, 29 April 2021 (UTC)

DYK for Das Leiden Jesu von seinen Freunden
Cwmhiraeth (talk) 00:01, 30 April 2021 (UTC)

William Lovelady notability?
Hi Gerda, in looking through your DYK nom, it struck me that none of the references were about Lovelady directly. I'm concerned that this subject does not meet WP:GNG or WP:NMUSIC. I didn't want to derail your DYK nom if you had a good rationale for disputing that concern. Is there any source, aside from his publisher (which is really a Primary Source closely connected to the subject), that helps support WP:SIGCOV? I did multiple database searches through American and UK publications (newspapers and journals) through my university library and found no sources to add. Perhaps there is something in Swedish? 4meter4 (talk) 01:22, 30 April 2021 (UTC)
 * 4meter4, I am a DYK person, meaning, he was in the news, and I didn't know and wanted to, and found little, - see, not even on his own website is any precise information. Reminds me of Patrick Süskind. If I was a journalist, I had tried to interview him, and possibly some tried, who knows? Still, I wanted to know who was The Duke's second (or even first, wo knows) choice composer, and think other may feel the same. Swedish, I wouldn't know. It was a different user who added that. More than 7k views so far, - why not give those interested the bits we do know? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 05:35, 30 April 2021 (UTC)
 * This is one of those cases where an artist should be notable, but the references just aren't there. However, on reflection I could see making an argument for criteria 10,11, and 12 of WP:NMUSIC given the radio play and the music being featured at a major international televised event. I'm going to leave it alone, as its a borderline case.4meter4 (talk) 13:15, 30 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Criteria #2 of WP:NMUSIC because of "One More Reggae for the Road" perhaps? — <b style="color:#000000">The Most Comfortable</b> <b style="color:#8500F2">Chair</b> 15:27, 30 April 2021 (UTC)

DYK for Der am Kreuz ist meine Liebe
&mdash; Amakuru (talk) 12:02, 1 May 2021 (UTC)

DYK
Hi Gerda. You seem to be the most active person in DYK from Germany. For that reason, I thought it would be appropriate if you were the one who reviewed my nomination for Murder of Peggy Knobloch. It is a case that appears in the news in Germany every once in a while. Forgive me if this is too much of a burden or if this request is inappropriate.

On another note, thank you for the award you gave me a while back. I appreciate it. Also, thank you for your articles on Bach and Lutheran hymns from around 2013. I always wanted to know who created them when I was a teenager. Scorpions13256 (talk) 20:05, 1 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Scorpions13256, thank you, but Bach and Lutheran hymns were written mostly by others before I was even here. I wrote more about some of Bach's works. Will look at the DYK eventually, but am always reluctant with murder topics. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:09, 1 May 2021 (UTC)
 * You did expand a lot of the Lutheran hymns though. If you are uneasy about the topic, you don't have to review it. The earliest revisions had to be redacted because of stupidity on my part. I just thought you would be the most appropriate person for this. Scorpions13256 (talk) 21:17, 1 May 2021 (UTC)

DYK for Christuskirche, Paris
—valereee (talk) 00:02, 2 May 2021 (UTC) Fond memories of a choir tour, annually one in autumn to places without choirs or in other diaspora situation, such as the this one, St. Petri Kirk, Copenhagen. A concert at short notice (because a planned one was cancelled) at Marktkirche, Wiesbaden, had Pepping's Missa Dona nobis pacem, and reading a favourable review was one of the composers last joys. Great memories! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:06, 24 April 2021 (UTC)

Karl Schuke
Would you be able to cite the award? SL93 (talk) 00:29, 3 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Never mind. I took care of it. SL93 (talk) 00:34, 3 May 2021 (UTC)

1967 Picasso painting purchase referendum in Basel & DYK
It is my first appearance at DYK. And I have just seen that today Wikipedia starts an International Museum Day 2021 Campaign until May 18. Maybe we could place the DYK about the referendum somewhere in that timespan? Then I am also preparing another DYK about the Amerbach Cabinet with which according to several local sources the first Government sponsored permanent public art Museum anywhere was established in 1661. This Amerbach Cabinet was the nucleus of the Kunstmuseum Basel and also included the heritage of Erasmus von Rotterdam. These are the core facts but I have to think of hook. Maybe you have an idea, too. Would also be a good DYK for the International Museum Day 2021 campaign. Paradise Chronicle (talk) 06:03, 3 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Great, but please give me a link to the campaign, and mention the museum somehow in the Picasso hook, because at present, that's not obvious. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:15, 3 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Couldn't find one " on Wikipedia" so it comes over MetaWiki.Paradise Chronicle (talk) 06:44, 3 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Fine, so the day is 18 May. Perhaps tell the DYK project about it, and we could make more hooks for that day, and at least say so in your nominations. Brilliant idea! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:52, 3 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Thank you. I'll write the article about the Amerbach Cabinet today. Currently it is a redirect of the Kunstmuseum Basel and has not been expanded so far. Paradise Chronicle (talk) 07:05, 3 May 2021 (UTC)
 * I have written an article about the Amerbach Cabinet, but it is a small article so far and I don't really see why a second DYK on a the same museum has to be there on the 18 May. I was a bit too enthusiastic I guess. Anyway, the article will still be a good addition for the project International Museums Day 2021, just not for DYK.Paradise Chronicle (talk) 07:49, 4 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Thank you for Amerbach Cabinet! A reader who sees one article may sleep while the other set that day is shown ;) - no reason to hesitate. Of course, if we get an overload, we would rather take different ones, but I don't see that coming. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:13, 4 May 2021 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!
Thank you. Makes me think of Yoninah, PumpkinSky and Allen3, and many others who did much to make it run, while I just fight my bad memory ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 05:02, 4 May 2021 (UTC)

Precious anniversary
Hi, you wrote on my talk page:

"Precious anniversary: One year! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 05:55, 4 May 2021 (UTC)"

What does your message mean, please? Arrivisto (talk) 09:53, 4 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Arrivisto, there is a link below the picture, - try if that helps ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:02, 4 May 2021 (UTC)

"The only real nation is humanity"
This is so true. If we all just adopted this principle and treated each other with just a touch more kindness and understanding the world would be just a little more sunshine and a little less clouds. And even when the storms came to disrupt our flow through life, the kindness of the songs we interact with in human form and touch our hearts every day would be the colours in our rainbows after the storms pass. I commend you, Gerda, for being one of those songs. My words of encouragement and reflection: You are you. You are Gerda, so just be Gerda. The wonderful soul and colourful song that you are. Uniquely gifted to fit in the niche of life you were so aptly designed to fill. You don't have to do another thing to be the amazing citizen of humanity that others and I see you as. If you never edited again you would still be a beautiful (barn..lol) star. If you never gave another anniversary stone you would still be a precious jewel. Nothing could ever diminish the bright light that is you and everything you have done and continue to do from the moment the colours of life touched those eyes just adds to the brilliance that is Gerda. -- A Rose Wolf  15:18, 4 May 2021 (UTC)
 * blushing redder than ever, but before more answer: fresh air --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:21, 4 May 2021 (UTC)
 * rosewolf, hike was good, food also, back to you: you touched a soft spot. "The only real nation is humanity" is a quote, - I quote Br'er Rabbit who quoted from The Lord of the Flies. He was No. 2 founding member of the cabal of the outcast. I miss him since October 2012, and every precious, and reminder, and flower greeting, is a little tribute. Much of what you praise is only a reflection of the light of others, see? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:45, 4 May 2021 (UTC)
 * We are influenced by other songs, there is no doubt of that. My song is directly impacted by my father's mother because she took the time to comfort and care for a scared and lost little girl that had given up on life. She taught me that I am a rainbow. That's the personification of humankind and really all life. You do carry parts of their song with you and it has become part of you but it is still you, distinct, individual colours and patterns that are yours. Influenced by others and life experiences but they belong to you. The fact you sharing them just means they are now part of us and we carry a little of your song and, by extension, their songs in us, and now we can pass them on. It's how the strings of our life bind us to each other, them to you, you to us, us to others and so on. -- A Rose Wolf  19:58, 4 May 2021 (UTC)

Jade Bird
Gerda, I was wondering if you could do me a favor. The article on Jade Bird was given GA status today and I love her as a musician. I was wondering if we could get a DYK nomination together from what was written. It may not be possible but I thought I would turn to about the only person I could think of that would know and be able to assist us with the process if that's something you do, idk. (tagging here as well for their input and so they can follow along as they are the main contributor to getting the article to GA status). Thank you for any assistance you may be able to provide. -- A Rose Wolf  19:48, 4 May 2021 (UTC)
 * I took a brief look. What do you think of DYK ... that the music of Jade Bird (pictured) was called a "young Londoner's spin on modern Americana" by Rolling Stone? - or something more specific? We have a week to come up with a nomination, and I can do the first for you, while you watch and do it next time. - Amen to the above, - I connected the threads for easier combination. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:04, 4 May 2021 (UTC)
 * See, this is why I came to you. I thought about that exact line in the article for something like this. It has everything that personifies Jade. She's from London, her music has that Americana folksy feel, even some bordering the jazzy grunge and you have Rolling Stone magazine saying it. I love it but I'd like to hear what Spiderone thinks about it. -- A Rose Wolf  20:12, 4 May 2021 (UTC)
 * I completely agree. It summarises Jade perfectly! Spiderone (Talk to Spider) 20:53, 4 May 2021 (UTC)

Thank you
I just wanted to take a moment to thank you for weighing in on the "Warning and Welcome" thread. Normally I wouldn't have troubled you, but it is a topic I know you feel strongly about. I also will quickly "welcome" a user if I see they don't have many edits, (provided they haven't shown themselves to be problematic). I think welcoming new users should be a priority, and I truly appreciate and admire all your efforts in that area. I've been sort of overseeing a new editor in the NASCAR area, and trying to help them along the right path. Example: If you look at 's talk page, I think you'll see I haven't turned into some sort of unfeeling tough-guy that's just out to sanction people or get them into trouble. Anyway, thank you for your input on that page. Best always, — Ched (talk) 20:10, 4 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Thank you, Ched. Look above, - I just fondly remembered the beginnings of "our" cabal. Please meet my friend (and recent member) with Italian and Alaska influences, and all connected with all. I have to expand an article, - please talk to each other and excuse me until done. (Sorry, no time to look at the other right now.) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:16, 4 May 2021 (UTC)
 * I believe Gerda just introduced us, . It is a great pleasure to meet you. Welcoming new members properly is essential to the encyclopedia and I also admire Gerda for this. I, likewise, commend you for taking a new editor under your "wing" and teaching them. -- A Rose Wolf  20:47, 4 May 2021 (UTC)
 * , Hello A Rose Wolf, nice to meet you as well. Always nice to meet another Native American, wolf lover, and husky owner/lover.  Welcome to the project.  Don't hesitate to ping me if needed, although my skill set is limited.  Hope you have a great day and rest of the week.  Best, Ched — Ched (talk) 21:12, 4 May 2021 (UTC)
 * — Ched and any other admin, please watch Ashleyyoursmile, I get pings that smell like vandalism. No welcome ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:07, 5 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Thank you, . It's LTA . They are back with their signature harassment and personal attacks. Ashley  yoursmile!  10:10, 5 May 2021 (UTC)
 * , I usually only wiki in the mornings. We basically have 24 hour daylight now so its easier to choose when I sleep and I don't sleep well anyway. We own 38 Huskies and about 16 Malamutes. I was adopted by wolves. I'm watching your page too,, if you don't mind. -- A Rose Wolf  13:14, 5 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Now THAT is a lot of pooches to feed. Even my mom never had quite that many when she had her own Collie kennel many years ago. Back in the old chat-room days (Excite IIRC) I went by the handle of "Lone Wolf", and have often used that nickname for many venues.  I've owned several Huskies and 1 Malamute what the heck was her name? over the years.  Well, anyway - having worked a midnight to 8 shift for years, I can understand the challenges that come with the sunlight, but I've never been to Alaska (although I would loved to have been able to go back when I could). — Ched (talk) 18:14, 5 May 2021 (UTC)
 * , They are sled dogs and I could name them all but we would need a book as some have local Athabascan names and I'd probably need to get the transliteration for them in order to spell them. My lead dog is Little Jack. My team, minus one Husky that passed last year :-(, is the same team that was with Jack (been a sled dog trainer for 20 years and a guide in Alaska for longer and now our personal dog trainer and a sled team operator) and I when we were caught in a snow storm north of Fairbanks in March of 2018. I was suffering from a serious concussion (I hit my head on the brush bow when the u-bolt snapped and the sled flipped and Jack had broken ribs from hitting the handle bar and footboard. All we could do was pack the snow in around us and huddle inside the canvas covered sled wrapping ourselves in blankets. The dogs came back to our location because the dogs are trained to retrace their steps even in the worst conditions. We made it out alive because of the combined survival training of the the dogs and us. -- A Rose Wolf  18:57, 5 May 2021 (UTC)
 * , Wow - that's a story that will live for a long time. Concussions can be very dangerous, so I'm glad you had the wherewithal to protect yourselves for the night. That had to be a very tense time.  I'm glad everyone made it out in one piece. — Ched (talk) 19:40, 5 May 2021 (UTC)
 * , we never would have made the night. It was probably -60°f with the wind chill factor. Winds were about 45mph. It was probably only about half an hour to an hour but that's plenty of time to contemplate your death and review your life. In that time the snow had piled up over the sled and Little Jack dug in the snow a little to get to us. I had a pretty bad cut on my forehead and the cold kept it from bleeding worse so that was pretty good but I suffered from migraines for almost two years after that. The last migraine I had was early in 2020. I don't remember much after that as I was in and out of consciousness. I just remember waking up in a hotel bed in Fairbanks. Jack says he took me to the hospital and they checked me over but released me. We've pretty much healed externally but I've never really recovered from that and how can you? It's forever a part of me. -- A Rose Wolf  20:11, 5 May 2021 (UTC)
 * , - Yep, I can see how something like that would stick with you - very scary time IMO. I could easily imagine a nightmare creeping in, and maybe for years to come.  Glad you had Jack and little Jack around. — Ched (talk) 20:24, 5 May 2021 (UTC)
 * agree - talking of Jack, for a circle --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:29, 5 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Oh, I'd need to tell you the whole story for you to get the full experience but we can do that another time and place. I am putting together my journals for some future literary work, perhaps the "Memoirs of Asareel: The Alaskan rainbow" (lol). -- A Rose Wolf  20:35, 5 May 2021 (UTC)

over
Ched, I think. Happy day! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:58, 5 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Glad to hear that Gerda ... that will make things much more peaceful. Cheers. — Ched (talk) 18:14, 5 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Thank you! - RoseWolf, just a short explanation: the infobox wars were first documented in 2005, example pictured from 2012, with two protagonists for the infobox, the before-mentioned Br'er Rabbit and Andy. They were accused of having driven the author off Wikipedia by that discussion. (I was on the other side, back then, imagine.) Br'er left us later that year, and I continued his work a bit. A 2013 example was Joseph (opera). It got an infobox today. (In 2013, Ched asked the arbitration committee to solve the disputes. They failed to even look at the problem, and made it bigger by asking us in the end to fight it out on every individual article talk. Short version. Long version here.) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 18:52, 5 May 2021 (UTC)
 * I've had limited dealing with the arbitration committee and/or ANI but from what I have seen, admittedly the personal perception of a wiki-noob, they don't seem to be extremely helpful and actually hurt the encyclopedia more than help. True enough, there are disruptive editors who need to be dealt with but more times than not I have seen good editors who held a different perspective be eviscerated and destroyed because of a personal dislike, rather than actual policy. It's why I avoid those situations as much as possible. Nine times out of ten they are a negative to the encyclopedia than a positive. - A Rose Wolf  19:51, 5 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Just look at or the Ultimate guide to arbitration: Don't. Seriously. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:08, 5 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Agree with that sentiment...Don't. -- A Rose Wolf  20:16, 5 May 2021 (UTC)
 * A project that doesn't need an arbitration committee would by great! - Tell me the 10 percent that were not a waste of time, please. One case that made life better for us users, please. - While the arguments about infobox opera (which is the only type of infobox the arbs should have looked at in 2013, because it was new and caused trouble when introduced) may have ceased, we still talk about CITEVAR (another waste of time) and whether the "based_on" parameter may mention a Bible story citing the Bible verse(s), or if it needs a secondary source to say so (another waste of time). I have no time today, but anybody is welcome. Thanks to Michael Bednarek for holding my position (but reverted as I write this). Still the same opera, of course. - In case you have extra time but want to do something productive: a peer review is open for Shoot for the Stars, Aim for the Moon, and another for my song of defiance (yes, not only death and fear, but arbitration also), - both not by me. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:35, 6 May 2021 (UTC)
 * I am sure all the members of the committee and most every admin here at Wikipedia are legitimately great human beings. But I can not fathom some of the logic behind decisions made. I used to just say that I don't know everything they know but I actually believe I know more than they know, in most cases, details not important as to how but we'll call it an intuition. The fact is that I haven't seen a single case, taken up, that wasn't, itself, disruptive to the encyclopedia and the community. One would think they are in a bit of a catch because no matter how they ruled there would be those in disagreement. True enough, but the decisions themselves seem disruptive and arbitrary, even more so than the process by which the decisions were made. -- A Rose Wolf  14:44, 6 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Agree. The system is flawed, - the so-called evidence is typically a heap of memories of things that went wrong. I know only one case in detail, so am biased, but it drove me crazy when they wanted to ban my friend Andy (mentioned above) as if that would have helped. One of the arbs cited a diff when voting to ban (and it was the majority vote for that ban) where Andy uncollapsed an infobox that I had inserted in an article I had written. I bet that arb didn't read the diff right, and thought Andy had added that infobox, and never bothered to find out what kind of article that was, and if that was welcome or not. Just voted to ban. Kafkaesque. Otherwise a pleasant person, offering tea when you enter his talk. As you say, great human beings. - Don't get near. In case they call me again, I'll not participate. Do you know what I thought was the ultimate guide (until the more ultimate Don't)? Written by Raymond Arritt, missed much. Look! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:43, 6 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Oh wow, that was close to four years ago. I still lived in Haines and didn't even know what Wikipedia was. I'm not even sure I had internet or if it was then it was community internet (lol). I still have the same tablet though it's basically useless now. I wish I had been here to meet some of these incredible people. In regards to the arbs, being a great human being doesn't make you uniquely equipped to deal with the issues that arise. People, good people, have hurt me all my life. Most don't even know how or why they have hurt me. The majority act out of ignorance. They don't really have a solution but a solution must be found or they feel they will lose face. In the name of saving the castle they actually dismantle it stone by stone but because it's a slow process they don't even realize what they have done and most never will. But one day they, or those that follow after them, will remove the stone holding it all together and it WILL collapse upon itself. There may be portions that stand like the ruins of the ancient marvels of antiquity but the real substance and depth of meaning will have long left. The great halls of reason and understanding will have faded from memory. All that is left is the husk, a reminder of potentiality and what might have been. Common ground, collaboration, good faith, sharing of ideas and a genuine caring of others will simply be terms that one uses to make them feel good about life and themselves. But without the desire to fill in every syllable spoken and each letter written with the fullness of ones passion they will simply remain empty promises devoid of all life essence. Hope? I love the quote "Soulwork is not a high road. It is a deep fall into unforgiving darkness that won't let you go until you find the song that sings you home." I am sure that could mean something different depending on who you speak to but I find that encouraging. Life is dirty. Life is messy. You get damaged and cut and hurt and wounded. It seems like darkness is always lurking and ready to take you but there is a song, somewhere, somehow. The soulwork is finding it. There is a rainbow, even in the darkness. There is color, music, life, dreams that can lead you home. Here, in the middle of the madness that is this encyclopedia, I find songs. My hope is to be a song as well. -- A Rose Wolf  16:59, 6 May 2021 (UTC)
 * You are a song! - I haven't written my article of the day yet (about a nature reserve where I was today, and where the April flowers were taken last year), and the telephone is ringing a lot, so no focused response right now. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 18:28, 6 May 2021 (UTC)

I found a song, User:Geogre, to listen to ;-). I fail to listen to my grandfather sometimes. "When speaking truth use fewer words...there is less to remember." Yes, grandfather, but the words are inside me and if I don't write them down and share them I am going to explode (lol). Enjoy your time with your memories of nature and those April flowers, Gerda :-D. Write it down! -- A Rose Wolf  19:11, 6 May 2021 (UTC)
 * I know Geogre because RexxS rescued his images from deletion. Who will do that now? - Some day, I'll write my memories, but today, I just translate from the German Wikipedia. I'll find a way to include the flowers. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:53, 6 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Look, a start. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:10, 6 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Thanks to Andy who wasted more time and fixed the Bible reference. - I leave the April pic because Wild garlic is still blooming, seen yesterday, and chamomile not yet. Later today: expanding a park (pictured), thinking of a friend's birthday. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:07, 7 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Looks beautiful. I have a brother in Dresden and one of the brothers that lives here in Alaska with me moved from München and brought his family. I am trying to finish up the few remaining redlinks for protected places in Alaska. Curious, why would Geogre's images get deleted? -- A Rose Wolf  13:02, 7 May 2021 (UTC)
 * The images were self-portraits so not used in articles. As if we had no other problems ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:08, 7 May 2021 (UTC)
 * ps: see User:RexxS, and User talk:Geogre, - look for RexxS, how he defended all these proposed deletions, also of other images. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:16, 7 May 2021 (UTC)

DYK for Grischa Huber
Cwmhiraeth (talk) 00:02, 6 May 2021 (UTC)

DYK for Rosa von Milde
Cwmhiraeth (talk) 12:01, 6 May 2021 (UTC)

Thank you and note on Roger Ames
Gerda, thank you for the excellent copy editing at Joyce Mathis. I appreciate the infobox as well. One small mistake, the Wikipedia article Roger Ames is not about the composer but a different man. We have no article on the composer, but if you wish to create one, this article can get you started. He has an entry in The Encyclopedia of American Opera giving his birth year as 1944. He was nominated for the Pulitzer Prize for music so he’s notable, and he’s written lots of vocal music (operas and oratorio and choral music). Best.4meter4 (talk) 10:19, 7 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Thank you, noted, but I have more plans than I can do already. How about telling project opera the same thing? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:24, 7 May 2021 (UTC)

DYK for Der Mieter
&mdash; Amakuru (talk) 12:31, 7 May 2021 (UTC)

DYK for Herr, du bist mein Leben
— Maile (talk) 00:03, 8 May 2021 (UTC) in the series courage --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:30, 8 May 2021 (UTC)

DYK for Isabelle Andréani
Cwmhiraeth (talk) 12:02, 8 May 2021 (UTC)

DYK for Helmut Branny
Cwmhiraeth (talk) 00:03, 9 May 2021 (UTC)

Shoot for the Stars, Aim for the Moon
I need your opinion. Do you think Shoot for the Stars, Aim for the Moon is ready for FAC?
 * Shoot for the Stars, yes, - thought I said so, sorry if unclear. In the morning, I was shocked that Slim Virgin died, and just returned. No words for our loss, for the project I mean. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:51, 9 May 2021 (UTC)

Thank you!

 * That was a real pleasure, Modussiccandi! Thank you, for the learning on the way even more than the barnstar. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 18:55, 9 May 2021 (UTC)

Re [SlimVirgin]

 * We deal with life and death of SlimVirgin, an editor who was one of the pillars of the project. Particularly the use of templates on her pages.

To take you up on your comment, I just thought the placement was a misfire. It struck me as odd when I opened the page that I had to scroll down an entire screen to see the template, since in the future it'll be important that people looking for help realize they'll need to ask someone else, and the one on her userpage was also badly positioned (which I fixed). Nothing I feel all that strongly about. The Blade of the Northern Lights ( 話して下さい ) 22:43, 9 May 2021 (UTC)

Just saw your comment on my talkpage, we can continue there if needed. Sorry for any confusion. The Blade of the Northern Lights ( 話して下さい ) 22:45, 9 May 2021 (UTC)


 * The Blade of the Northern Lights, how are my talk page watchers supposed to know that you speak about placing the "deceased" template on user and talk of SlimVirgin, and where? . I think the template is out of style in whichever position. When I die, please no template, and no "deceased". - Edit conflict. We can also continue here, perhaps better for when I die ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:57, 9 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Apologies for the confusion. I just happened across them already being there, and repositioned them thinking they were just out of whack instead of not supposed to be there at all. Since I never knew any of this, I'm happy for anyone else to remove them; no objections from me at all. The Blade of the Northern Lights ( 話して下さい ) 23:07, 9 May 2021 (UTC)
 * It doesn't matter where they are and it's certainly not worth the discussion. I placed the one on the talk page, couldn't make heads or tails of the markup and placed where it landed after a few tries but it was not the top of the list of things I was concerned about in the moment. If it can go to the top that's probably fine too, but fwiw it does look ok underneath that nice image. That said, zero preferences from the person who did the placing. Thanks to Gerda for hosting the discussion, best here than on that talk page. Victoria (tk) 23:29, 9 May 2021 (UTC)
 * If I have anything to say about it your wishes will be met. Wikipedia is very adamant that our user/talk pages don't belong to us, which is ridiculous by its very notion, and it may be the point at which I leave Wikipedia for good or am permanently banned but a person's preference should be honored out of goodwill. I lean heavily towards leaving their user/talk pages as is, myself. Archiving the talk page and adding a new section about them being deceased seems appropriate. That's my personal principles kicking in. -- A Rose Wolf  14:34, 10 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Thank you. What do you think about the precise case below? Light green, intentionally so, and now contrasted with the black and yellow of the template? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:44, 10 May 2021 (UTC)
 * I'm probably not the one to ask about colors but since you did, colors, from my viewpoint, are living representations of individual states of mind, moods, senses and character traits. Beyond what the typical synesthete would say, because if I purely operated from that view I would never see her page the way you all do anyway, I can say that she organized and colored her page the way she wanted to be representative of herself. Deviation from that would be, in my view, a dishonor and disrespect of the individual. Let me say that I don't believe anyone here is intentionally doing anything to dishonor out of malice. But that's my personal view of the situation. -- A Rose Wolf  15:13, 10 May 2021 (UTC)

template and page style
Some related observations and thoughts, about user page and user talk page of Slim version, and in general, and deceased:
 * SlimVirgin was conscious of the appearance of her personal pages.
 * She changed the image on her talk page from a sleeping woman (which she showed on top as long as I remember) on 19 March.
 * On 8 April, she added the image of RexxS on top of her user page, archived her talk page and added light-green background to both pages.
 * I feel that the template is one of those falling into the category "don't template the regulars". Both pages would be perfectly understood without it, and have been understood by all those mourning. We could just add her pages to the categories the template automatically applies. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:17, 10 May 2021 (UTC)


 * I'm stunned...I didn't know. When did SV die? —valereee (talk) 20:50, 13 May 2021 (UTC)
 * We don't know exactly when Sarah died, early May, last edit 18 April. See WP:Deceased Wikipedians/2021. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:24, 13 May 2021 (UTC)
 * I gave her Impact - too late. Mentioning her statement in the arb case request in a link. Arbs should listen to women more. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:29, 13 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Such an amazing person. I cant agree with that last statement anymore than I already do. This whole encyclopedia needs to listen to women more. -- A Rose Wolf  15:33, 18 May 2021 (UTC)
 * I completely agree! Bishonen, Littleolive oil, Montanabw, Atsme, Sarah, and I, later also valereee - we all said the same, actually the most experienced arb, Newyorkbrad, also said so, but these men - only men right now afaik - ignored us. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:45, 18 May 2021 (UTC)
 * I honestly believe it stems from a familiarity with our own points of view. I have said, for a long time, that we all have a conflict of interest in every subject that we have ever had the smallest participation in. Conflict does not mean the opposition is my physical enemy. Conflict means opposing viewpoints are antagonist to my own. We all have interests and those become the subject of the conflict. So anyone with opposing or differing views, from all sides of a particular topic or subject, has a conflict of interest. That's part of being human. Passion for our interests, a very real state of being, is what drives our conflicts. I don't care if you are an arbitrator for wikipedia or a judge sitting on a bench deciding criminal and civil cases, you have a conflict of interest and I know most strive to separate their personal viewpoints from decisions made but that is an impossible task. It will never happen. It is impossible to have a completely neutral outcome from arbitration. It is impossible to have a truly fair or equitable result. It doesn't take a genius to review the notice board or arbitrary cases to see this is factual when it involves the review of human beings and their actions. -- A Rose Wolf  16:46, 18 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Tbh, RexxS did the exact thing he felt was the best option for him, he walked away. When confronted with the understanding that the system is skewed by its very nature because it is a human made system, and there was no way in hell he was going to get a fair shake, he reviewed his two options, stay and fight and subject himself to a grueling, bitter and stressful inquisition which would have resulted in the same outcome (I don't care what anyone else says, that case was decided before the evidence was provided because nothing provided was enough to alter its course much one way or the other) or walk away with even a sliver of dignity and respect, even if only within his own mind. The character assassination ensued about as I expected it would, of course, with the occasional nod towards a feigned respect of RexxS's contributions throughout the years, if for no other reason than to make the individual saying it feel better about the massacre of a human beings dignity they were engaged in. Sprinkle in a few ignorant and misguided comments about how you don't have to be an admin to still be a major contributor to the encyclopedia which sounded absolutely absurd when contrasted by the veracity by which every minute detail of RexxS's actions here were painstakingly scrutinized to find errors in judgement that are quite common among the species. The result was never in doubt. Even the comments by committee members about how their decision was going to be disagreed with no matter the outcome simply points to their unwillingness to admit the conflict of interest by which they entered the case. Its all to make them feel better and it is a common practice among humanity to do this. No one, from any side has acted outside what was expected from the onset. RexxS weighed his options and I believe he did it with great attention to the consequences, not from arbcom because anyone with enough sense and a willingness to actually see the truth of humanity would draw the same conclusions I have, but the consequences to an encyclopedia that himself and even the allies, opposition and arbcom members genuinely care about. He decided, with the outcome of little doubt, that the best thing he could do for the encyclopedia and himself was to walk away. Arbcom did not win, the opposition did not win, civility did not win, Wikipedia did not win, humanity did not win. All accounts lost. That's the result of arbcom when it deals with humanity. That's the result of conflicts of interest when the passion and the love of ones own views outweighs reasoned temperance. -- A Rose Wolf  17:16, 18 May 2021 (UTC)
 * I said (Hammersoft talk) that the case would not improve kindness, nor a single article. Cassandre again. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 17:44, 18 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Spot on as usual. I tried explaining this with my ex-husband years ago when he felt I should be more upset over him leaving the way he did. My seemingly blasé attitude was not because his actions did not affect me. If he would have known me better then he would have understood that my actions were completely in character for myself. I point inward when tragic events occur. The normally talkative and bubbly personality turns to quiet reflection. Most likely I would withdraw like RexxS did rather than engage in defense of myself. If I am still talking then I haven't reached that point. -- A Rose Wolf  18:05, 18 May 2021 (UTC)
 * I was quite bubbly in "our" case, but then understood the perfect guide, nutshell: "Arbitrators usually work from broad impressions and do not consider details, nuance, or context." and finally "You're completely on your own in interpreting any nuances or inconsistencies in the announced decision. While it is possible to file a request for clarification my experience is that the Arbitrators would rather gnaw their own limbs off than provide meaningful guidance to the implications of their decisions." - So, if another case came along, I'd just not participate. Waste of time. Did you read the fascinating bio of Raimund Hoghe? That's what we are here for. He who wrote the guide was also a Raymond in real life. We wanted him for arb. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 18:23, 18 May 2021 (UTC)
 * I did read the bio. His life was quite intriguing to me. I often wonder if he knew just how impactful he was. I think most people are like that. We are our own biggest critics. You put me on to so many intriguing life songs. Now I need to go read about Raymond. I read everything. It fascinates me. I take my time. I digest all words and roll them around inside me hoping to fully understand the complexity of the individual(s) that constructed them. Sometimes this takes longer than other times. When I was first introduced to RexxS, by you, I spent the better part of a day or two just pouring over his talk page and user page, then I branched out to the case. I have spent a lot of time looking at it, just allowing the depth of me to consume each word to determine the motive and feeling behind it. EVERY word/action has its base foundation in feeling and a state of being. The colors help me but its still my human personality that determines how I see it to a degree. I can own that it is initially tainted by the lens of my own system of colors and sounds. But then I take time to filter it through my understanding of humanity from the experience of life, just life. The results are as neutral and objective a conclusion that I can possibly determine. -- A Rose Wolf  19:03, 18 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Raymond Arritt - I miss him every day, although we chatted only once a year, for Precious anniversary. I had no idea what he did for the environment, until he died. - He is quoted in my edit notice, note to self. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:09, 18 May 2021 (UTC)
 * I will pick up with Raymond later but he seems to be another song that I would have liked the personal interaction with. -- A Rose Wolf  20:27, 18 May 2021 (UTC)
 * As a bloke (albeit not a particularly stereotypical one) I can empathise with the view that "This whole encyclopedia needs to listen to women more." In fact, I'd go a bit further, and say that this whole encyclopedia needs to listen to the widest and most diverse set of people that it possibly can. It will ultimately make the encyclopedia better. <b style="color:#7F007F">Ritchie333</b> <sup style="color:#7F007F">(talk) <sup style="color:#7F007F">(cont)  16:03, 19 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Good point, and no contradiction: I don't mean don't listen to men, and see, the three in my edit notice are all men. For Alazi, I didn't know for a while - because of the image on the user page of a naked woman looking at herself in a mirror, but of course a man's view, and because of saying that man/woman is way to simple - and I actually liked not to know and both possible, and both good - but on one occasion he said something like "of course I'm a man or I could take this shit better". How I miss him. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 17:04, 19 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Life here in wild Alaska doesn't care if you are a man or woman. That's one of the reasons I love it so much. There is one law...survive. You know where you stand and you better mind your step. My sister-in-law and I were driven off the trail by a pack of wolves while we were out on a ptarmigan hunt once. I cared not that we were saved by men. I love the diversity of the sources of knowledge here. I agree that we should listen more to them all. -- A Rose Wolf  17:20, 19 May 2021 (UTC)

I finally finished reading Ray's talk page, every archived word of it. I am absolutely convinced he was one of the coolest guys to ever live. How can I miss him even though I never exchanged words with him? But I do. I have copied the ten points no doubt written by Raymond at some point and expressed through his widow. I will incorporate them into my philosophy on life. It's already pretty close to that anyway. -- A Rose Wolf  18:01, 19 May 2021 (UTC)
 * I do like his support for Clinton as President. See also my remarks at Redirects for discussion/Log/2019 February 25. <b style="color:#7F007F">Ritchie333</b> <sup style="color:#7F007F">(talk) <sup style="color:#7F007F">(cont)  19:53, 19 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Oh! I wrote that! (WP:Ignore all dramas). I'd completely forgotten. -- Yes, I miss Raymond. We had hilarious conversations, including by email. I regret not getting to meet him in "real life". Antandrus (talk) 20:05, 19 May 2021 (UTC)
 * The amazingly beautiful jewel that is Gerda has put me on the trail of quite a few amazing life songs as of late. I miss them though I never got the opportunity to interact with them but I do have their words and their colors find a way through to me. Each of you were impacted by them and an impact always leaves something behind so part of them is part of you. In that way I do get to meet them through each of you. On top of that I get to listen to your unique songs while improving this project which is pretty incredible for me. -- A Rose Wolf  20:23, 19 May 2021 (UTC)
 * , However, WP:Ignore all dramas also says, as a welcome footnote, "We're still an encyclopedia, and we still need your help." I'm never going to run out of articles to improve, and having taken 150 articles to good article status, the next goal will be to take that total to 200. <b style="color:#7F007F">Ritchie333</b> <sup style="color:#7F007F">(talk) <sup style="color:#7F007F">(cont)  20:40, 19 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Absolutely, Ritchie, yes. And, in one of those haunting synchronicities in life, I delivered almost exactly your thought, in some of your words, when I gave the eulogy at a memorial service not long ago. We often underestimate the impact we leave on others, sometimes by a lot. You put it really well. Antandrus (talk) 22:01, 19 May 2021 (UTC)
 * impact - thank you! - (May I introduce Dreadstar to you, RoseWolf? ... who helped me to 'ignore, ignore, ignore" in 2012) --- I need help with translation. Wo Menschen sich vergessen, that phrase, and the the refrain "Da berühren sich Himmel und Erde, dass Frieden werde unter uns". There heaven and earth touch each other so that peace may come (become? grow? be? develop?) among us. - "werden" is hard in English. "Es werde Licht" (from Genesis). - "Menschen" is hard. "sich berühren" is hard. "Himmel" is hard. - And all too long for DYK. I'll probably just say that it was the openening of the streamed service for the ecumenical open air service opening the Kirchentag in Frankurt, planned as a giant meeting in an arena, now instead on a parkdeck with four singers, with the skyline somewhat as pictured above. You saw the skyscrapers right and the Paulskirche left, under a blue sky (Himmel) on Ascension Day (Himmelfahrt). Wo Menschen sich vergessen, where people let go of their ego peace may come. Antandrus, you said that recently, - back to impact ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 05:32, 20 May 2021 (UTC)
 * my grandfather loved the phrase Finché c'è vita, c'è speranza - While there is life, there is hope. He slipped me a piece of folded up paper about a week before he passed and told me to hold on to it, that I would know when the right time to read it was. Every time I went to unfold that paper something stopped me. It kind of slipped from memory in the weeks, months and even years that followed. My grandmother didn't handle losing him well. She became more and more sick and the dementia started taking over her life. To add to it, my uncle and aunt (adopted parents) died in a car accident almost a year after he passed. We both didn't handle that well. Her health continued to deteriorate at a rapid pace to the point where she required 24 hour care so I pretty much moved in with her, probably what ended my marriage. One day, she was quite lucid, she called out to grandfather and I don't know if it was the way she said his name or not but I instantly remembered that letter. I ran home and found it and brought it back to my grandmother and as I sat beside her I opened it. At the very top in his handwriting, Finché c'è vita, c'è speranza. He wrote about his life, losing his parents in WW2 and finding my grandmother in Italy and so many memories . Some things I had heard before, somethings I hadn't. He was never one to share many feelings but he poured them into this little letter. He told me what that phrase meant to him. Paraphrasing: "Life doesn't end with death so long as we continue to live inside those that we have impacted." There is always hope so long as the life essence of the earth remains. We are but a string, a note, a melody. One instrumental in a vast ocean that is a symphony of great voices. Our song is unique and important but together with other songs it is the continuation of life and thereby hope remains. -- A Rose Wolf  13:18, 20 May 2021 (UTC)
 * That's beautiful. Thank you. Antandrus (talk) 14:37, 20 May 2021 (UTC)
 * ... yes, and just what I need - singing my song of defiance of death and fear (see top). --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:55, 20 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Your story makes an important point - behind each Wikipedia editor is a real person with a background and story to tell. I've had ups and downs in my life too, I just don't feel like expressing them publicly on-wiki. So thank you for wanting to be open about yours. <b style="color:#7F007F">Ritchie333</b> <sup style="color:#7F007F">(talk) <sup style="color:#7F007F">(cont)  18:30, 20 May 2021 (UTC)
 * A personal reflection: When you bathe in a stream in the middle of nature and live in a house with very few doors then you quickly learn that your life experiences are not really just your own. Our journey is meant to be shared. Our story is meant to be told. Our song wants to be heard. Who am I to deny it? -- A Rose Wolf  18:38, 20 May 2021 (UTC)
 * You listen to my song, wonderfully! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:00, 20 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Sometimes it takes me a little while but I do hear most Songs that I come into contact with. Everyone thinks "conflict" is an evil. I don't view it that way. Conflicts that turn toxic can hurt us and that's why we need filters. We all spin at different speeds. Sometimes we collide causing damage to each other. Other times we find the right Song that helps us repair damage to ourselves. Still other times there is damage that can't be repaired, like a deep scratch on one of those old vinyl records we love so much. It sounds like skips and bumps. Momentary pauses in the Song that is our life adventure. We keep moving though. Keep growing. Keep experiencing. Why? Because life is worth it. The journey has value. I will say that if going through everything in my life lead me to edit and improve this encyclopedia just to meet some of you and share in the beauty that is your Song's then it was absolutely worth it. Dreadstar was an interesting one, different, but equally magnetic. I am very glad they found depositories in which to pour themselves into while they were here. It left an impression on so many. -- A Rose Wolf  13:43, 21 May 2021 (UTC)
 * yes, thank you! Dreadstar was an actor, with an IMDb entry, DYK? And such a good friend. He stayed in email contact after he left WP, being desysopped for bad reasons (sounds familiar?) The last email was Christmassy, saying how much he cherished the friendship. The news of his death was a shock, not only for me, as you can see on his talk, which we restored against his will. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:37, 21 May 2021 (UTC)
 * I could tell there was a bit of acting in his approach, particularly early in his talk page. I am not surprised he was desysopped, one of the reasons I always pause before endorsing my support of a candidate for admin. I want to say, "Whatever you believe in, pray to them cause you are going to need it". However, I think most will do well, just stay uncontroversial, something I find hard to do (lol). I noticed his talk page was restored against his will. In this case I feel it is justified. So many can learn the perfectly flawed magnificence that is Dreadstar on Wikipedia if they will simply listen. -- A Rose Wolf  15:49, 21 May 2021 (UTC)
 * He was a rather uncontroversial admin until he protected a featured article for a week because of an edit-war about the hidden notice (!) to prevent an infobox. He was called to task for having protected (no more) while involved. Kafka, all the time. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:01, 21 May 2021 (UTC)
 * I agree. Seems like such a frivolous and trivial thing to be attacked over. I have read some of the ferocity from all sides in the infobox wars. Not picking a side and rehashing the issues of the past but to lose so many good editors over this, beyond the affect being dressed down and desysopped has on individuals, deserved or not, is simply mind-boggling. -- A Rose Wolf  16:41, 21 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Yes, people can get very dug in over inconsequential things. I think that once one's ego becomes over-involved, the inconsequential can seem more consequential than it actually is. The world's wisdom traditions all recognize, among other things, that where one's ego is involved, one suffers. Personally I am trying to back away from such conflicts, and there are many such (not only on "infoboxes"). Spending time in nature gives one valuable perspective, I believe. I think I will go outside today. :) Antandrus (talk) 16:53, 21 May 2021 (UTC)
 * , I edit while being outside a lot right now for that express purpose. It looks like rain later today. Dark clouds overhead. I will always recommend walking away from enflamed situations here. That is sage advice for us all, self included. I have let myself become over-involved in situations and generally there was an irrational response. Once I was able to reset I could see that and make adjustments. -- A Rose Wolf  17:03, 21 May 2021 (UTC)
 * The problem with the "infobox wars" is that several of the major players on the "anti-infobox" side are people I would consider friends. If consensus is now that articles should have an infobox in order to be considered properly developed, I can get behind that as long as it closes the debate. As for getting "dug in over inconsequential things", I think the other thing to realise is we all have different views on what is important, and all it takes to have a blazing row is to have two editors with strong but diametrically-opposed views that nobody else cares about. I think my current bete noire that I get annoyed about (but no more than that) is people putting frivolous tags on articles (something I know Antandrus has commented on in the past), which makes me wish back to simpler times when WP:SOFIXIT was widely practiced. That said, it does happen if you look closely; when got stuck into improving O'Connell Street with me and actively helped out at the GA review, I thought "hallelujah, collaborative editing's not dead yet!" <b style="color:#7F007F">Ritchie333</b> <sup style="color:#7F007F">(talk)  <sup style="color:#7F007F">(cont)  10:00, 22 May 2021 (UTC)

Today, I came across Articles for deletion/Underwater diving in popular culture, which looks heading for a "delete" close. Who's a good editor who can help rescue diving articles? Ah, RexxS. *sigh* <b style="color:#7F007F">Ritchie333</b> <sup style="color:#7F007F">(talk) <sup style="color:#7F007F">(cont)  13:50, 22 May 2021 (UTC)
 * (quick stop here, feast days and company:) The infobox wars are dead. GFHandel made an edit today, after 9 years!!! Turn to articles. Celebrate with friends. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:43, 22 May 2021 (UTC)
 * thank you so much for tagging me in, reading the whole conversation I feel amongst friends here :) I miss Rexx too (I'm lucky enough to see him IRL from time to time, always a joy to chat with). Here's to more editing with friends! Smirkybec (talk) 19:44, 22 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Welcome, Rebecca. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:35, 22 May 2021 (UTC)

DYK for Five Pianos
Cwmhiraeth (talk) 00:02, 10 May 2021 (UTC)

Re:Precious
Dear User:Gerda Arendt, I hope you are doing well and it's nice to see a message from you on my talk page. I am completely fine with your edit here. FWIW, there was a related RfC that you may wish to refer to. Feel free to instate those on other Psalm-related articles and if anyone else raises this issue in the future, please let me know and I'd be glad to comment. I hope this helps. With regards, AnupamTalk 17:03, 10 May 2021 (UTC)

Some things
Hey, this message will be a hodgepodge of things I'm afraid. Honestly, I would be extremely surprised if FS is unblocked, but I don't know what to think anymore. Also, I must thank you—I never would have looked at editing articles on recently deceased people, were it not for your example. I think I'm going to aim for GA with Anthony Payne, as I've found his music rather fascinating, and it would be nice to give a 21st century composer some attention. I do plan to get back to Price, but want to get some more done on Payne and finish up Chinua Achebe for FAR. I just thought I'd let you know since it seemed like you had some interest in getting Price to GA. Honestly, Sarah's death has motivated me more than ever to work on bigger figures like Price and Achebe; even though I didn't know her particularly well, her tireless editing on huge topics is seriously inspirational. Aza24 (talk) 19:36, 10 May 2021 (UTC)
 * All fine! I just grabbed the next one who died (after hoping for several hours someone else would do it), - politician and TV general manager, not my topic, but he really deserves better than a chaos of bits not even in chronological order, - Karl-Günther von Hase. In your post on CM, one link wasn't by FS. He reverted Sarah, of all people. - I have always too many to which I want to return. - also a mix ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:44, 10 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Hm, I think the link you're referring to was Cullen's edit, but I just put that there since it was when he was given the banning template on his talk page. I would help with Hase, but it seems like most sources are in German, so I don't know how much I can do! I haven't forgot about your PR btw. Aza24 (talk) 20:17, 10 May 2021 (UTC)
 * I was confused, - I meant on AN, last of three in a row, but as the discussion is closed it probably doesn't matter. I gave Hase a start but will wait for a miracle over night. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:26, 10 May 2021 (UTC)

Die güldne Sonne voll Freud und Wonne
Hi! If you want to have another go at GA for this article, let me know and I'll review it. We were so close last time, I think we now stand a better chance. Regards, Amitchell125 (talk) 20:51, 10 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Amitchell125, thank you, and I'll have a look. In the meantime, could you perhaps comment in the peer review for BWV 227? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:15, 10 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Amitchell125, I made some changes I found urgent, such as moving the 19th century pov that came before all original text. Feel free! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:10, 11 May 2021 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Die güldne Sonne voll Freud und Wonne
Hi there, I'm pleased to inform you that I've begun reviewing the article Die güldne Sonne voll Freud und Wonne you nominated for GA-status according to the criteria. This process may take up to 7 days. Feel free to contact me with any questions or comments you might have during this period. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Amitchell125 -- Amitchell125 (talk) 16:01, 11 May 2021 (UTC)

Late Renaissance polyphony
Do you like this? Attribution uncertain, but this article makes a very good case. Narky Blert (talk) 18:05, 11 May 2021 (UTC)
 * I'll listen later, thank you for sharing! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 18:42, 11 May 2021 (UTC)

DYK for Boris Carmeli
Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 00:02, 12 May 2021 (UTC) one more for Jerome Kohl --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:07, 12 May 2021 (UTC)

Attack the article
Hello Saeed Ganji article has been attacked Can you help? Amiirmaster (talk) 20:29, 12 May 2021 (UTC)
 * (tps comment) Hi, I just restored a previous version and protected it against edits from new users for 24 hours. Antandrus (talk) 20:41, 12 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Thank you, just saw that. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:42, 12 May 2021 (UTC)

Very Thanks. Amiirmaster (talk) 21:00, 12 May 2021 (UTC)

DYK for The Gamblers (Shostakovich)
&mdash; Amakuru (talk) 00:02, 13 May 2021 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!
So worth every barnstar. -- A Rose Wolf  12:28, 13 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Thank you, both! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:27, 17 May 2021 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Die güldne Sonne voll Freud und Wonne
The article Die güldne Sonne voll Freud und Wonne you nominated as a good article has been placed on hold. The article is close to meeting the good article criteria, but there are some minor changes or clarifications needing to be addressed. If these are fixed within 7 days, the article will pass; otherwise it may fail. See Talk:Die güldne Sonne voll Freud und Wonne for issues which need to be addressed. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Amitchell125 -- Amitchell125 (talk) 19:21, 18 May 2021 (UTC)

DYK for Kammermusik (Hindemith)
Cwmhiraeth (talk) 00:02, 19 May 2021 (UTC)

'Kammermusik No 3
Why do you add an apostrophe to the redirect: 'Kammermusik No 3? Better would be a redirect to Kammermusik_(Hindemith)#Kammermusik_No._3. Grimes2 (talk) 10:44, 19 May 2021 (UTC)
 * typing error, and fixed, with another mistake ... fixed --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:02, 19 May 2021 (UTC)

Languages
I've just about reached a stage in German where I'm not intimidated by the language any longer. Still a massive amount to learn and be able to speak but I can at least say some basic sentences and remember some words from the top of my head: like Verantwortung, Beziehung, Zuschauen, Einführung, Haltung, Beschränkungen, Rettung, Vorsitzende, eingeführt, Geheimdienst, Verwaltung, syrianisch, Islamismus etc. The key is definitely reading. Pasting a German wiki article into google translate and playing it in German slowly is the best way to learn! I'll just keep reading German Wikipedia a few times a week. Obviously if I wasn't learning all the other languages too I'd make quicker progress but I find it keeps me motivated alternating between them all. † Encyclopædius  11:57, 20 May 2021 (UTC)

Ich schriebe ohne Hilfe von Google/Deep L. Ich kann mehrere Dingen auf Deutsch sagen. Diese ist eine gute Chance für meine Deutsch zu verbessen. Bin ich genau oder viele Fehler gemacht hat? In diese Moment, die Wetter ist ziemlich kalt in Gales, especiell für die Monate auf Mai. Viele Fehler, ich bin sicher, ich möchte der Genauigheit in meine schrieben, aber es ist ganz wichtig zu üben! Kannst du mich verstehen? Ich hoffe diese ist nicht peinlich! † Encyclopædius  12:15, 20 May 2021 (UTC)


 * Ich kann mehrere Dinge auf Deutsch sagen. Dies ist eine gute Chance, mein Deutsch zu verbessern. Bin ich genau oder habe ich viele Fehler gemacht? Zur Zeit ist das Wetter in Gales ziemlich kalt, vor allem für Mai. ... Ich möchte genau schreiben, ... (all replaced by dots was perfect!) --GA

Here was what I was trying to say :-): "I'm writing without help from Google/Deep L. I can say several things in German. This is a good opportunity to improve my German. Am I accurate or have I made many mistakes? At the moment, the weather in Wales is pretty cold, especially for the month of May. Many mistakes, I'm certain, I want accuracy in my writing, but it is very important to practice. Can you understand me? I hope this isn't embarrassing! " † Encyclopædius  12:19, 20 May 2021 (UTC)

Here is the Deep L version, so many errors LOL but you could understand what I was saying right? † Encyclopædius  12:28, 20 May 2021 (UTC)

Ich schreibe ohne Hilfe von Google/Deep L. Ich kann einige Dinge auf Deutsch sagen. Das ist eine gute Gelegenheit, mein Deutsch zu verbessern. Bin ich genau oder habe ich viele Fehler gemacht? Im Moment ist das Wetter in Wales ziemlich kalt, besonders für den Monat Mai. Viele Fehler, da bin ich mir sicher. Ich möchte genau schreiben, aber es ist sehr wichtig, zu üben. Können Sie mich verstehen? Ich hoffe, das ist nicht peinlich!

Wie geht es ihnen? Deutsch ist stark zu lernen! Wie ist Frauen in Rot? † Encyclopædius  12:25, 20 May 2021 (UTC)


 * Danke,, mir geht es wirklich gut - wie immer. Man muss einfach optimistish bleiben. Ich kummere mich zur Ziet um schwedische Frauen. Seit dem 1. Mai habe ich schon 32 neue Biographien erstellt. Schade dass Du nicht mehr bereit bist Artikeln zu schreiben. Oder hast Du jetzt vielleicht Lust Artikeln auf Deutsch zu schreiben? Dann könnten wir wirklich sehen, wie weit Du mit der Sprache gekommen bist.--Ipigott (talk) 13:54, 20 May 2021 (UTC)


 * I reply within the above, hope that's fine, - better for comparison. I understood everything (!) in the German para, just that a native speaker would phrase some differently, - überhaupt nicht peinlich. (I can explain differences if you like, but will have rather little time until Tuesday, - Pentecost for two days in Germany.) - Eine gute Aufgabe. Eine Freundin wird heute operiert, - Ablenkung tut mir gut. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:39, 20 May 2021 (UTC)

Thankyou both. Just listening to this Gerda Palestrina "Missa Papae Marcelli". The goal is to get my Spanish, French, Italian and German to a reasonably fluent level in reading, writing and speaking. To speak five languages farily fluently would be a great achievement. Portuguese and Dutch and others can come later. I think I deserve a long break from editing though Ipigott! You've earned it too, amazing work! It's really worth the time I'm putting in with the languages at the moment, I really need to work on my word lists on here. I will try to expand a few articles over the summer, maybe some existing locality articles and some new biographies from France, Spain, Germany and Italy, but right now I'm mainly concentrating on getting my German and Italian reading level up to my French level. I still have a long, long way to go with German reading, it seems more than twice as big as some of the other languages for some reason, maybe it's all the compound words! Wish your friend the best of luck Gerda! † Encyclopædius  14:31, 20 May 2021 (UTC)

Ah Wales is Wales in German, I was thinking "Gales", confusing it with Spanish LOL! † Encyclopædius  14:47, 20 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Thank you, all well received. In German, we tend to leave place names pretty much as they are. - Rom for Roma, Lissabon for Lisboa. - You learn German and will No. 1 DYK within a few months, - boring with no competition ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:52, 20 May 2021 (UTC)

My gift to you ...
from my overnight playlist: for you. — Ched (talk) 17:45, 20 May 2021 (UTC)
 * thank you so much --Gerda Arendt (talk) 18:27, 20 May 2021 (UTC)

Carl Thiel
Hi Gerda, I normally really like your edits, but your latest change to Carl Thiel is baffling. Could you please review, consider reverting most of your changes? For example, why is Haec Dies no longer Haec Dies? I note that the de wikipedia article still has all titles in italics. Otherwise, a more detailed explanation rather than just "ft" would be great. Thanks, Kiwipete (talk) 09:17, 21 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Requiem, Magnificat, Te deum, Nunc dimittis, Dies irae, Locus iste, cantata, ... and Haec dies, all terms that made it to the English language, I think. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:12, 21 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Can't believe that Haec dies has no article. Lauda Sion has one, that was what I was looking for. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:13, 21 May 2021 (UTC)
 * One more thing about Thiel: many phrases were linked as if Thiel's work, but were only the text. That's misleading, and was my major focus for the changes. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:15, 21 May 2021 (UTC)

DYK for Harzburger Musiktage
&mdash; Amakuru (talk) 00:02, 22 May 2021 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Die güldne Sonne voll Freud und Wonne
The article Die güldne Sonne voll Freud und Wonne you nominated as a good article has passed ; see Talk:Die güldne Sonne voll Freud und Wonne for comments about the article. Well done! If the article has not already appeared on the main page as a "Did you know" item, or as a bold link under "In the News" or in the "On This Day" prose section, you can nominate it within the next seven days to appear in DYK. Bolded names with dates listed at the bottom of the "On This Day" column do not affect DYK eligibility. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Amitchell125 -- Amitchell125 (talk) 18:22, 22 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Thank you, Amitchell125, perfect timing! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 18:49, 22 May 2021 (UTC)

DYK for O komm, du Geist der Wahrheit
&mdash; Amakuru (talk) 00:02, 23 May 2021 (UTC) Happy Pentecost! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:14, 23 May 2021 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!
Thank you so much, Ritchie. Pleasantly busy on Pentecost weekend with REAL compamy, more later. Thank you all on this page for your wonderful virtual company! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:32, 23 May 2021 (UTC)

DYK for Thomas Fritsch
— Maile (talk) 00:03, 24 May 2021 (UTC) Ice Age Pentecost --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:19, 24 May 2021 (UTC)

Lili Marberg
Hi Gerda, I recently created an article for Lili Marberg. I couldn't help myself from turning the red link blue. Unfortunately, I'm going to likely be on Wikipedia a lot less this week as I'm going to be away. I was thinking of putting it into draft. If you could help with some sourcing, I'd really appreciate it. Maybe there's enough out there for DYK? I'm not sure. Thank you, Thriley (talk) 06:09, 24 May 2021 (UTC)
 * draft is good, I'm not here today, and behind with many other things. - We still celebrate Pentecost. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:19, 24 May 2021 (UTC)

Peer review for my song of defiance
Please help if you can. Rather soon, I'd like to nominate the song that has helped me to defy death and fear (and arbcom) for FAC, because the anniversary of help to defy death is near. A peer review is open, - please help if you can. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:39, 25 May 2021 (UTC)

DYK for Marie Desbrosses
— Maile (talk) 12:02, 26 May 2021 (UTC)

DYK for Karl Schuke
—valereee (talk) 00:02, 27 May 2021 (UTC)
 * That blue though!! :-D -- A Rose Wolf  19:33, 27 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Did you see that it's a February article? One thing holding it up was that the images were threatened with deletion, another that it was promoted without the image. But all fine now. It's quite heavenly to be in the box. c:Category:Pipe organ of Kaiser-Wilhelm-Gedächtniskirche, new building--Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:43, 27 May 2021 (UTC)
 * I've been to Germany many times but never to Berlin to see this. Ohhhhh, I want to stand in the same space with these beautiful colours and hear the sounds from this organ. -- A Rose Wolf  20:12, 27 May 2021 (UTC)
 * They offer daily services and devotions. Organ music works even in times of pandemic. - Short trip:  --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:20, 27 May 2021 (UTC)
 * ARoseWolf, today, I keep the blue, to honour a dear person with whom I share wonderful musical experiences although we live on different continents. We once were together for his birthday and I picked as many cornflowers as years, - many, looked great. The musical selection - some our church, some their church - are just the tip of an iceberg. - I want to improve Renaissance Street Singers today, and Chichester Psalms this year, promised. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:29, 28 May 2021 (UTC)

A plate of Tandoori chicken for you
Thank you so much, that looks delicious, and it's the birthday of a friend, - good timing --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:29, 28 May 2021 (UTC)

DYK for Luke Bond (organist)
—valereee (talk) 12:02, 28 May 2021 (UTC)

Cups peer review
Hey Gerda. I was just wondering if you could leave some comments for the "Cups (song)" peer review? I've wanted the article to be FA for over six months and have had no success. This song means so much to me as I remember being in middle school and always trying to master the cups rhythm. You know I'm shooting for the stars, aiming for the moon 💫 (talk) 00:25, 29 May 2021 (UTC)
 * User:Shoot for the Stars, that one is on my to-do-list for how long? Sorry, will do next, after Carillon (begun, more comments wanted, user's first PR). Still patience, please. Reviewing comes at the end of the day, after fighting deadlines in writing for DYK and ITN, and often - like yesterday - that means no reviewing. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:02, 29 May 2021 (UTC)
 * I made some minor changes last night, but feel free to revert if they're not to your liking. I absolutely love the Kendrick video of that song.  Will check some of the other versions today. — Ched (talk) 13:12, 29 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Take as long as you need Gerda. I am in no hurry and am going to be quite busy this summer. : thank you so much! The song and music video mean so much to me. This is the song I used to try out at my school talent show and got in! You know I'm shooting for the stars, aiming for the moon 💫 (talk) 20:49, 29 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Good! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:05, 29 May 2021 (UTC)

May 2021
Don't you think it's a bit too huge? - Thank you, Ched. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:05, 29 May 2021 (UTC)

May 1455
Thank you, SN! Reformation is a work in progress. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:09, 2 June 2021 (UTC)

DYK for Philipp Harnoncourt
&mdash; Amakuru (talk) 00:02, 30 May 2021 (UTC) He stood for something useless but not senseless ("nutzlos, aber nicht sinnlos"), and especially meaningful today, on Trinity Sunday. He inspired many to help, and restored a building that was meant to be demolished more than once back to its original message, at an "impossible location". It's rare that a person is pictured when a dream comes true. - If you understand spoken German: there's a lecture by him on YT. The opening, on Trinity Sunday last year, is also available. For a quick glimpse from that opening: - Matching: Shoot for the Stars, Aim for the Moon. Thanks to all involved, making exception after exception! - If you still have time, there's Gott Vater, sei gepriesen for the day, "reconcile what is divided". --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:47, 30 May 2021 (UTC)

De-cluttering and DYK noms
Hi Gerda, you have the habit of "de-cluttering" Talk pages by removing the DYK nom. I am not really convinced this is a good idea: on most Talk pages of new articles, the DYK nom is literally the only part where the article is discussed (and so the only point where you can see who might be a good person to ask about the article if you need to). I think that having some discussion visible on Talk pages invites further discussion, and that Talk pages with only WikiProject clutter on them look very lonely. Do you have any good reasons for removing the DYK discussions that I have overlooked? Happy editing, —Kusma (talk) 09:21, 30 May 2021 (UTC)
 * The link to the discussion comes with the DYK credit, and the few people really interested in these discussions after the article appeared can reach it with one click. Therefore I remove it only when the credit is there. Many of these discussions are not about the article, and users' preferences, and should just be forgotten. The one for Harnoncourt (see in the credit above) was a much-admired exception, thank you Drmies! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:47, 30 May 2021 (UTC)
 * These discussions can be forgotten once other discussion exists. Removing them does more harm than good. —Kusma (talk) 09:56, 30 May 2021 (UTC)
 * I hope I'll remember for your articles. I do it only for "mine" and those I care about (such as reviewed them). The discussions I mean - which are not about the article - should be forgotten immediately ;) - Did you read the one about the Harnoncourt nom? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:00, 30 May 2021 (UTC)
 * And I hope you get a lot of hits for that article., I didn't even realize until recently that those discussion were on the talk page. I have to say I kind of like, for the reasons you lay out, and I do think that many of them discuss matters that are of importance to readers; sometimes they provide valuable insight into article development, for instance, and when they discuss sourcing, that's very relevant too. I'm a big fan of peer review, and these templates make those peer reviews quite visible. Drmies (talk) 13:45, 30 May 2021 (UTC)
 * ... and you may have noticed that I didn't remove the Harnoncourt review, because it was an article review. The majority, though, don't even touch the article but remain with formalities of DYK and hook phrasing. Thank you for making the exception. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:16, 30 May 2021 (UTC)
 * I'd think it would be of interest as well, even if it was just the technical or formalities of the how and why the article managed to get to the main page in a DYK. Maybe instead of deleting, it would be better to move them to a talk archive if you consider it "clutter"? — Ched (talk) 16:56, 30 May 2021 (UTC)
 * For years, we had the link to the nomination in the credit, and it's still there, and I am used to finding it there (and assume everybody interested could do the same). Now a bot transfers the link with a title to the article talk as soon as it's nominated. Fine, really fine, as long as it's open, inviting comments whether as reviewer or as someone just interested in the article topic. But once it's closed, it has fulfilled its purpose, imho. I've seen these sometimes long reviews postpone the GA reviews which to transclude is of high value. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 18:44, 30 May 2021 (UTC)

DYK for Jade Bird
&mdash; Amakuru (talk) 12:03, 30 May 2021 (UTC)

Old Articles
What I have decided to do before I retire from Wikipedia is bring all the songs that I listened to all the time as a child to GA. Some examples are like I Found a Way, Blurred Lines and Get Lucky (Daft Punk song). Any songs you grew up with that mean a lot to you? You know I'm shooting for the stars, aiming for the moon 💫 (talk) 07:18, 31 May 2021 (UTC)
 * yes (and many more, just look above) - please don't speak of retirement, just don't edit - on the day I was reminded how many we miss --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:25, 31 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Awwww, so many are missed. I'd sing a song with you (lol). I'd take you up on my mountain and dance to any song we choose. I love dancing and singing to nothing but the wind and sky. Every hope is that my voice is carried to corners of the Earth and that it is a light for someone caught in the clouds of life. A song to guide them home. It is a pretty thought. Like sunflowers following the light of the sun as it arcs overhead. -- A Rose Wolf  14:46, 1 June 2021 (UTC)
 * Is there an image of your mountain on the commons? I received many mountains, did you see? I'd love to be there with you. Serious plans were made for singing together at the waterfalls, but came pandemic ... --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:03, 1 June 2021 (UTC)
 * No but its not unlike many mountains. Not many travel this far north except the true adventurist and those who work on the North Slope. Even less choose to stay. I'll see if I can upload a pic. -- A Rose Wolf  15:07, 1 June 2021 (UTC)
 * You read my mind ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:08, 1 June 2021 (UTC)

DYK?
The man of Rendswühren? In today's Was geschah am? Creepy but interesting. – Sca (talk) 14:49, 1 June 2021 (UTC)
 * Danke! Die Spieler on the same page. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:06, 1 June 2021 (UTC)
 * ... and this, a Shostakovich opera premiered in Wuppertal, DYK? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:20, 2 June 2021 (UTC)

Shoot for the Stars!
Thank you! We try. It will be #3 FA initiated on this page in 2021, and I love it. No reward needed, but much appreciated, good for my blushing zone ;) - How do you like this star? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:02, 2 June 2021 (UTC)
 * I think it is beautiful. I am also Catholic and am very proud of it! I have not been to mass in months because of school and work, but now since school is over. I am going to a very beautiful Cathedral that is near me and pray for my priest who died from Covid in January. You know I'm shooting for the stars, aiming for the moon 💫 (talk) 07:12, 2 June 2021 (UTC)
 * We miss too many, but flowers, music and stars will survive, and shooting for them. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:23, 2 June 2021 (UTC)


 * ... and this month's flower even looks like a star ;) - I see it shoot where I sit, but in this cold year, it may take to July to bloom. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:37, 2 June 2021 (UTC)
 * Do you think I could nominated the article a little earlier than its two week period? I am going to be working full time at a new job and will have to start getting ready to leave college soon. Meaning I will have to leave Wikipedia in July. You know I'm shooting for the stars, aiming for the moon 💫 (talk) 08:17, 2 June 2021 (UTC)
 * Ask Gog the Mild, who will mildly say yes. (Was granted for the last such case which made it to FA then.) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:19, 2 June 2021 (UTC)

DYK for Wo Menschen sich vergessen
&mdash; Amakuru (talk) 00:02, 6 June 2021 (UTC)

Peer review for my song of defiance
Please help if you can. Rather soon, I'd like to nominate the song that has helped me to defy death and fear (and arbcom) for FAC, because the anniversary of help to defy death is near. A peer review is open, - please help if you can. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:39, 25 May 2021 (UTC) "where people forgets themselves (their ego), heaven and earth are in touch" - "da berühen sich Himmel und Erde", - yes, El C? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:05, 6 June 2021 (UTC)
 * Diminished, nonetheless I persevere. Wavey flip! El_C 10:56, 6 June 2021 (UTC)
 * Thank you, but not exactly a translation of the German, right? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:08, 6 June 2021 (UTC)
 * "Esperanza, if you read this... I love you, marry me!" El_C 11:42, 6 June 2021 (UTC)

Da pacem Domine
By the standard that even if categorizing it as a song isn't ideal, it's still vastly preferable to any individual work of music being contextlessly tossed directly into the parent category for itself, as that category should only directly contain very general overview articles rather than individual musicians or works which belong in subcategories. If you want to create a new subcategory for Christian music compositions instead, be my guest, but categorizing it as a song is still preferable to categorizing it as a general concept article. Bearcat (talk) 17:02, 6 June 2021 (UTC)
 * Bearcat, I understand better, but am not sure I like a wrong category better than a wide one. Would you support ? ? ? Other suggestions? RandomCanadian, what do you think? - Perhaps completely different categories, because today's "contemporary" will be some day's "classical"? Some neutral and others of that style? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 17:12, 6 June 2021 (UTC)
 * (and Gerda): "compositions" or "vocal compositions" or the like would be the best option. In addition, it would maybe be even better to simply keep the "Compositions by Arvo Part" category and put this in that, with "Compositions by Arvo Part" being a sub-category of whichever appropriate top-category. The "songs" and "hymns" ones seem inaccurate, per the edit summary I've left. RandomCanadian (talk / contribs) 17:31, 6 June 2021 (UTC)
 * What do you think of ? "Vocal" seems like somewhat redundant, because it's probably the text that makes them Christian. - I didn't mean the hymn category for this piece, btw, - just to have it in general. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 18:11, 6 June 2021 (UTC)
 * Too small category. Just put everything by Part in one, and if it needs dividing then divide according to the usual lines (instrumental, choral, solo vocal, possibly "secular vocal" and "sacred vocal", though AFAIK the first one would be nearly if not entirely empty...). We don't have "Christian compositions by Johann Sebastian Bach", do we? RandomCanadian (talk / contribs) 19:04, 6 June 2021 (UTC)
 * We have various cantata cats for Bach, somehow implying that those not marked "secular" are Christian. Most are cat:Church cantatas, without specifying which church. - Not useful for Pärt's works which are not exclusively written for liturgical use. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:22, 6 June 2021 (UTC)

Thank you!
I just wanted to give you my sincerest thanks for helping me to tidy up the article on Dmitri Dmitriyevich's second sonata. Would engage with it further myself but the next couple of days I'm under the gun, so to speak, to submit three essays whose deadlines are imminent. So your editing is especially appreciated. But I will jump back into the article when I have a free moment. Thank you for your kindness, constructive appraisal, and love of music. --CurryTime7-24 (talk) 22:12, 7 June 2021 (UTC)

Village pump (idea lab)
You might want to check this out. Apparently I wrote the most boring hook ever. ;-)4meter4 (talk) 02:26, 8 June 2021 (UTC) You might want to check this out. Apparently I wrote the most boring hook ever. ;-)4meter4 (talk) 02:26, 8 June 2021 (UTC)
 * It's in the archives of DYK that I proposed a radical change of DYK: just list the article titles, - coming from the Recent deaths section where just the name - right now Friederike Mayröcker - creates a four-digit and higher response. I'd be happy for no discussions - just see William Lovelady, - which includes the one linked here ;) - anybody, feel free to take the thought there, I have no time. Boring for one may be fascinating for another. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 05:43, 8 June 2021 (UTC)

DYK for Kühkopf-Knoblochsaue
Cwmhiraeth (talk) 12:03, 8 June 2021 (UTC)

DYK for Raimund Hoghe
Cwmhiraeth (talk) 12:05, 9 June 2021 (UTC)

Question regarding Portal:Germany/Did you know
Hello there, I have a question regarding Portal:Germany/Did you know. Does the DYK have to at least be promoted (moved to Template:Did you know/Queue) for it to be able to be added to the page? Or does it have to at least be approved (moved to Template talk:Did you know/Approved), or can the DYK be added to the page first without any approval/review at all? For the last question, I assume that cannot be done, but I want to make sure. Thank you very much in advance for the answer.--Karto1 (talk) 14:02, 9 June 2021 (UTC)
 * Karto1, I place them in Portal:Germany only when appeared on the Main page, not sooner, for two reasons: 1) it's supported to help statistics on DYK day when it counts, 2) very often, the hooks get changed during the travel from nomination to appearing, and then maintenance is needlessly complicated. If you think of a way to wake up interest in nominations before and during approval, beyond the article talk page, perhaps post something on the project talk. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:08, 9 June 2021 (UTC)

Deutsches Tanzarchiv Köln
Hallo, isn't there a choice to be made between Deutsches Tanzarchiv Köln and German Dance Archives ? The last one looks rather skinny vis-à-vis the first one. I leave it to you. LouisAlain (talk) 08:20, 10 June 2021 (UTC)
 * Yes, I wasn't aware. How about having all at DTK and make the other a redirect? Could you do that, 'cause I am not really there for the rest of the week? Calling Graham87 for advice. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:44, 10 June 2021 (UTC)

DYK for Jubilate Deo (Britten)
Cwmhiraeth (talk) 12:02, 10 June 2021 (UTC)

Profound though belated thanks
Dear fellow editor! I wish to thank you for your courtesy done seven months ago of awarding me the "precious" award. It is much appreciated. I am very honored.Drboisclair (talk) 19:54, 10 June 2021 (UTC)

Sutton United and Seven Sisters
Hello Gerda, and thanks for your kind words this morning re the Sutton United 2–1 Coventry City (1989) article. Always a pleasure to see my work (in this case a joint-effort with TRM) up in the top spot!

We have been having some fantastic weather this week, so I've been outdoors as much as possible too. I went with my children to the Seven Sisters on Monday (see picture), the chalk cliffs are really a beautiful sight, we walked all along the top going up and down each one in turn. Wishing you a happy weekend &mdash; Amakuru (talk) 12:27, 11 June 2021 (UTC)
 * Amakuru, it was sooo happy: gorgeous weather here as well, meals outside surrounded by flowers, hiking to the Limes monuments, cycling to Gnadenthal, singing with friends, a Bach cantata and a new cello-organ piece! (... in the order of excitement) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:55, 14 June 2021 (UTC)

DYK for Karl-Günther von Hase
Cwmhiraeth (talk) 12:02, 12 June 2021 (UTC)

Reinhard Keiser
Hello! I am sorry that I have not been in touch ... things have been sticky, on and off, etc.

I just wanted to say – this is probably old hat to you – but I have just "discovered" (due to the Random Pleyell&trade;feature on my Young Persons' Music Device), a wonderful album of Passions by Reinhard Keiser. It's fabulous! I couldn't understand what I was hearing at first then decided I loved it. If this link works then it is here though I imagine you already know it. Please tell me you have performed all his works already! And that there is a Trumpet Concerto I haven't heard about yet ... ? Cheers DBaK (talk) 20:01, 13 June 2021 (UTC)
 * DBaK, we never sang anything by him, will discover, thanks for sharing. We talked about you, DYK, remembering that you said Celia probably wouldn't want a Wikipedia article. See latest pic. She was with us 21 years ago. Gorgeous Bach trumpet aria yesterday! (not pictured) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:55, 14 June 2021 (UTC)
 * You're v v welcome, do have a listen, hope you enjoy. Apparently some of the attribution to him is shaky but, whoever wrote it, it is gorgeous music anyway. Yes re C! We should possibly have had her leading soon, but the gig in question has been brought into doubt by the latest pandemic announcement, so we shall see. Lovely pic of the cello & organ. And what was the Bach aria?? Cheers DBaK (talk) 18:25, 14 June 2021 (UTC)
 * There's a link to the cantata we heard, and if the article is any useful, it should be apparent which aria has 3 obbligato oboes. I know it's not good yet, - had little time for WP the last days. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:02, 14 June 2021 (UTC)
 * DBaK, listening now: impressive, chromatism really adds colour here. A new cantata (new for Frankfurt) by Philipp Heinrich Erlebach scheduled for 18 July. Fidelio 10 July, with the singers and orchestra of Der Ring in Minden. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:56, 16 June 2021 (UTC)
 * Brilliant - so glad you are enjoying it, and thank you for the July previews! Cheers DBaK (talk) 11:53, 16 June 2021 (UTC)

Gerda I am terribly sorry but I have lost the thread of this conversation a little, or perhaps more than a little. There's a lot going on and I am not actually getting any younger! Could you please save me from my confusion and tell me which is the Bach trumpet aria you were mentioning? I want to go and listen to it and it's either something I already know, or ought to know and should learn! Thanks DBaK (talk) 09:18, 20 June 2021 (UTC)
 * In O Ewigkeit, du Donnerwort, BWV 20: "Wacht auf, wacht auf", wake up, wake up, - with trumpet, three oboes and strings, opening Part II, and Celia's brother was most impressed by the oboes (different aria), so please forgive me that I missed the trumpet in the reply above. Johannes Hill was the singer last Sunday. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:41, 20 June 2021 (UTC)
 * If you want the whole thing: aria at 18:40. Text talking about the last trumpet, in German Posaune (trombone) ut Bach was right assigning trumpet, of course. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:49, 20 June 2021 (UTC)
 * Oh, lovely, thanks so much! Did vaguely know it, have weirdly never played it (afair). Listening now whilst baking a cake. Will try for coherent response later. Thanks again DBaK (talk) 11:07, 20 June 2021 (UTC)
 * Enjoy. Cake - flowers - places - landscapes - music - all linked from 12 June songs on top. Enjoy for dessert, I added pics right now. Tempted to add a pic of the strawberry cake. Perhaps I will, - keep watching, it's a work in progress. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:46, 20 June 2021 (UTC)

ITN recognition for Gottfried Böhm
I am so happy we had Maria, Königin des Friedens last year when he turned 100. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:58, 14 June 2021 (UTC)

DYK for Theater Trier
— Maile (talk) 00:03, 15 June 2021 (UTC)

DYK for Tanja Tetzlaff
Cwmhiraeth (talk) 12:03, 15 June 2021 (UTC)

DYK for Alte Handelsbörse
Cwmhiraeth (talk) 00:02, 16 June 2021 (UTC)

DYK for Oophaa
Cwmhiraeth (talk) 12:03, 16 June 2021 (UTC)

Deutsches Tanzarchiv Köln
And how am I supposed to compete with you and your posse ? LouisAlain (talk) 14:53, 16 June 2021 (UTC)
 * ... compete? ... posse? ... please don't discourage me --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:55, 16 June 2021 (UTC)


 * Compete? Every one knows you're above the fray here. As for posse, it may possess an unflattering meaning unknowkn to me. What about your ilk or the likes of you ?


 * I need a posse formed to hunt me some breakfast. That sounds like a good competition. My tum-tum feels empty. -- A Rose Wolf  15:09, 16 June 2021 (UTC)
 * Had you be British, I suppose you'd had written my tummy. I may be wrong though. LouisAlain (talk) 15:36, 16 June 2021 (UTC)
 * In Yorkshire, you might say "I'm chuffin' starving" or "I'm starving as chuff". No, seriously. <b style="color:#7F007F">Ritchie333</b> <sup style="color:#7F007F">(talk) <sup style="color:#7F007F">(cont)  16:20, 16 June 2021 (UTC)
 * .. not a good condition for dancing :) - I'm hunting refs for a DYK ... --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:12, 16 June 2021 (UTC)
 * I've already done morning songs and dance so we are good there. :) Hunting refs for a DYK sounds significantly more difficult than me cooking something though that might be contingent on time of year. -- A Rose Wolf  15:19, 16 June 2021 (UTC)
 * Found a super ref: all the amazing numbers supported! Will nominate and go out. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:40, 16 June 2021 (UTC)


 * The "posse" is perhaps best known to middle-aged Brits as the group of friends and associates that turned up on BBC radio's Steve Wright in the Afternoon ("love the show"), such as Janey Lee Grace and Tim Smith, along with a lot of other strange things. <b style="color:#7F007F">Ritchie333</b> <sup style="color:#7F007F">(talk) <sup style="color:#7F007F">(cont)  16:19, 16 June 2021 (UTC)
 * Thank you! The German de:Posse is a kind of comedy that caters for a very basic kind of humour ;) - "farce" sems closest. ARoseWolf, did you see the Rose pic above? When the early morning sun hits it the building turns rose colour inside! The architect is off the Main page but I'll keep it until tomorrow. I'm so happy I wrote the building article last year, when he celebrated his centenary! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:45, 16 June 2021 (UTC)
 * I see the picture! :O I may "steal" it for when I use red as the main color on my user page (lol). -- A Rose Wolf  19:58, 16 June 2021 (UTC)
 * Take it, it's for all (until deleted because art inside). I took it. here's what I tried to describe. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:06, 16 June 2021 (UTC)
 * As predicted, a deletion discussion began. Steal fast, and better to your private area than your user space. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:43, 19 June 2021 (UTC)

DYK for Segne du, Maria
—valereee (talk) 00:03, 18 June 2021 (UTC)

looks like a quiet talk...
...and yet experience tells me the headers are helpful —¿philoserf? (talk) 07:02, 18 June 2021 (UTC)
 * just revert then - I think among grown-ups, we don't have to be told to assume good faith first thing on an article talk when looking for the FAC, but just revert if you don't agree. The only thing I find helpful in the template (talk header) are the archives but they could be done simpler, no? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:06, 18 June 2021 (UTC)
 * okedokey. i think of the talk headers as a friendly face for new editors. and we both know the norms are many 'round here. happy editing to ya. —¿philoserf? (talk) 07:36, 18 June 2021 (UTC)
 * ¿philoserf?, sorry, I see nothing friendly in that face, I see does and don'ts, I don't need a reminder to be welcoming and an invitation to dispute resolution, for examples, when simply entering a talk. - How about a line such as: This is an article talk page, - if you don't know what that is click here. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:16, 18 June 2021 (UTC)
 * ¿philoserf?, it seems that I wasn't clear: "just revert then" was meant for today's featured article, and others not written by me. For articles I stand for, please don't add the impersonal impolite commanding template, and when you did and I reverted, find consensus. I'd like to write articles. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:42, 18 June 2021 (UTC)
 * you do not own the pages you write. for now i will leave it alone. i hope not to have to work near you again —¿philoserf? (talk) 08:47, 18 June 2021 (UTC)
 * as the template says: assume good faith --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:51, 18 June 2021 (UTC)
 * touché. i am disarmed. —¿philoserf? (talk) 08:53, 18 June 2021 (UTC)

—¿philoserf?, you said you are disarmed, but I still see you in battle, inserting template talk header where it doesn't belong, such as on Susana Bloch. From a 2019 discussion (emphasis by me): "As per that template's instructions, that template is only to be used for "talk pages that are frequently misused, that attract frequent or perpetual debate, articles often subject to controversy, and highly-visible or popular topics"."

Please act accordingly, it will save you and me precious time. I assume in good faith that you didn't know that. I didn't know until that discussion. Perhaps do a round of self-reverts in the matter? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:57, 19 June 2021 (UTC)


 * very well. thank you for the follow up. —¿philoserf? (talk) 13:59, 19 June 2021 (UTC)
 * I'd have never found the linked conversation w/o having had it pointed out. —¿philoserf? (talk) 14:02, 19 June 2021 (UTC)
 * FTR: I have been operating from the text in the Template:Talk header itself. FWIW: I have found your viewpoint to be in the minority. —¿philoserf? (talk) 14:05, 19 June 2021 (UTC)
 * The discussion is (now) linked. As template and usage may have changed over time since 2019, here is from the current template's current basic usage, again emphasis mine:
 * This template should be placed only where it's needed. Don't visit talk pages just to add this template, and don't place it on the talk pages of new articles. Talk pages that are frequently misused, that attract frequent or perpetual debate, articles often subject to controversy, and highly-visible or popular topics may be appropriate for this template.
 * It basically tells me the same, that talk pages are better without the template unless needed, and whether I'm in the minority with that view I don't care. Let's do the following: I don't go around removing it, - I only do that for articles I'm interested in, and you don't go around adding it. My topic today: Cello Sonatas (Vivaldi). --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:23, 19 June 2021 (UTC)
 * I know we both share a desire to improve the encyclopedia. What you may not seen is this: I get many Thanks via the Notice system for the edits I am making to talk pages, including the addition of talk headers. So far, yours is the first resistance I have encountered. I remain uncertain how I should respond to your resistance. I will complete my queue for the day and then retire for a while while I consider your resistance, my other editing experiences, and contemplate the question. —¿philoserf? (talk) 14:32, 19 June 2021 (UTC)
 * (ec) I hate the word "retire", DYK? Just met a user who put "retired" on the talk on wants the user page deleted. Sigh. I'd know sooo many things that would need improvement in article space. Why focus on something that means nothing to the average reader of the encyclopedia? Fixing typos, providing disambiguation, doing reviews which lead eventually to better articles, fill red links, - so many chances! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:45, 19 June 2021 (UTC)
 * All done for the day.
 * I like working on gnomic improvements, for our readers, for our editors, and even for improving the little technical items that make the Mediawiki servers do less work. I have found no such work that was without some editors resistance. Generally, once I have encountered resistance, I turn and look for new small technical improvements to make. I expect I will turn back to working on the very, very, very many citation problems.
 * Enjoy your day and happy editing. —¿philoserf? (talk) 14:53, 19 June 2021 (UTC)
 * Thank you, and not all done for the day ;) - Can't decide what to do first: improve the sonatas, the hymn that was the base for Bach's first chorale cantata in the cycle (due for DYK nomination soon, but less of a pleasure topic), or Heribert Beissel, reported dead yesterday and with still too little of an article. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:05, 19 June 2021 (UTC)
 * FWIW: The later is what I'd take on first if that were my editing jam. —¿philoserf? (talk) 15:13, 19 June 2021 (UTC)
 * ... which ;) - I follow Deaths in 2021, and pick those I'm interested in by topic. This one: I went to concerts. - But just gnomishly to look if their articles are in shape would be beneficial. Some come with tags on top. Some are poor stubs. Some are long but without a reference ... - Interest guaranteed: the articles in the Recent deaths corner on the Main page will result in 4 to 5 digit views, by just mentioning a name. Probably too late for him as he died more than a week ago, but I still felt he deserved more than he had. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:24, 19 June 2021 (UTC)
 * I'm with Gerda on this - the template documentation is pretty clear that it's not designed for all article talk pages - just for those that it will actually provide a service for. Most talk pages it's not needed and it's just clutter. Ealdgyth (talk) 14:39, 19 June 2021 (UTC)
 * Thank you for your input on the topic. —¿philoserf? (talk) 14:40, 19 June 2021 (UTC)

thanks for your awards over the years
They’re the one thing that makes me think about coming back! 😂  AgnosticAphid  talk 16:42, 18 June 2021 (UTC)  AgnosticAphid  talk 16:42, 18 June 2021 (UTC)
 * Lovely, Agnosticaphid, and you could just do it ;) Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:11, 18 June 2021 (UTC)

"The three great Ks"
Hi there Gerda, hope you're doing well. Given your interest in classical music, I wondered if you would be able to help confirm something. I'm working on the article on William Chaney, who would riff on "the three great Bs" by referring to "the three great Ks". Their names are mentioned in this video, at 31:40 to 31:56. From looking at list of Classical-era composers, I think the three are Leopold Koželuch, Friedrich Kuhlau, and Jean-Baptiste Krumpholz. Do you happen to know if this sounds correct, or have any other ideas? Thanks, --Usernameunique (talk) 18:14, 18 June 2021 (UTC)
 * Never heard of the Ks, will have to look. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:11, 18 June 2021 (UTC)
 * Hard to listen, the names sound plausible, only I never heard the outer two. Dear watchers, help? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:22, 18 June 2021 (UTC)
 * I love Chaney's riff—I once tried to come up with my own combinations, my favorites were "The Three Ms" (Machaut, Mozart, Mahler) or "The Three Zs" (Zacar, Zelenka and Zemlinsky), though I'm afraid neither group really shares anything but alphabetical conveniences. My take: I know of Leopold Koželuch and Friedrich Kuhlau, who are almost certainly the composers he's referring to. Never heard of Krumpholz, but Jean-Baptiste Krumpholz certainly seems the mostly likely of his seemingly small family. Aza24 (talk) 20:27, 18 June 2021 (UTC)
 * Nice! The best find is the article you are writing, Usernameunique ;) - saying that Johann Christian Bach coined the three Ks, - but he could hardly have known the 3 Bs. - Aza, how about Monteverdi for M. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:29, 18 June 2021 (UTC)
 * Monteverdi would probably work better, I only really put Machaut because of how little attention he gets! What about Adams, Adams and Adams? :) Aza24 (talk) 21:02, 18 June 2021 (UTC)
 * Thanks, both. Aza, I think you're right. I was thrown off by the existence of Anne-Marie Krumpholtz and Fanny Krumpholtz Pittar, who for some reason have a variation in the last name (-oltz rather than -olz), and by the fact that in the video, it sounds as if the speaker pronounces the name with a 't'. But looking more closely, the article on Jean-Baptiste Krumpholz also includes "Krumpholtz" as his Czech name. (Also pinging &, two of the primary contributors to the article on Jean-Baptiste Krumpholz.) Gerda, it was actually Chaney, not Johann Christian Bach, who coined the term "the three great Ks"—I've edited the article to make it clearer. --Usernameunique (talk) 16:31, 19 June 2021 (UTC)

June 2021
Hello! We use talk pages, not edit summaries, when we make changes. Thus we do not do things like this. That goes for all of us, you, me, tout le monde. Please explain on the talk page why you did that. An apology (to all readers there) for not using the talk page before you did it would be a good idea also. --SergeWoodzing (talk) 08:58, 19 June 2021 (UTC)

Please do not write to me about this. Put your views on the article's talk page. --SergeWoodzing (talk) 09:03, 19 June 2021 (UTC)
 * No. You made a bold move, SergeWoodzing, it was reverted (by me, but only because I was probably the first to see it), now it's your turn to seek consensus per WP:BRD on the article talk. You can move my explanation from your talk to the article talk if you think that is a good idea. I don't. (For others to understand: we talk about the move of Chanson. I tried to keep it low-key, intentionally so.) Your editing will be happier if you use WP:RM for moves of stable articles with proper names, quite generally speaking. Happy editing anyway. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:13, 19 June 2021 (UTC)
 * You are not exempt from mandatory policy that we use article talk pages. If you refuse, that will not be to your benefit. This was being discussed on the talk page for quite some time before I moved the article. There was no objection in that discussion. You ignored the talk page when you reversed that move. It is that user behavior, not mine, that is unacceptable. --SergeWoodzing (talk) 09:22, 19 June 2021 (UTC)
 * Interesting point of view. So one user suggested a different name, one other user (you) translated that name, everybody else - including myself - took no notice that this "discussion" even existed. I don't call that a consensus. Then today you moved to your preferred version, without any indication that it was to a "common name". I think to move Chanson is a bad idea, period. Back to the first advice several edits ago: if you still want to pursue it you should use the formal procedure we have, WP:RP. For an example, see the talk of Der fliegende Holländer. Please study WP:BRD. What that article needs is references, not a move. Bye now. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:37, 19 June 2021 (UTC)

DYK for Theater am Aegi
Cwmhiraeth (talk) 00:03, 20 June 2021 (UTC) That was a few minutes walk from where I lived as a student. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:41, 20 June 2021 (UTC)

German names
Hello. I'm not sure about German name syntax: do you think the page Raumer be moved to Von Raumer? Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 08:57, 20 June 2021 (UTC)
 * No, it's Beethoven and Eichendorff, and the sort goes by that name. It seems to be different for some names from Belgium with a capital Van, such as Van Nuffel. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:31, 20 June 2021 (UTC)
 * Many thanks, Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 09:45, 20 June 2021 (UTC)
 * See van (Dutch). As I understand it, in Belgium capital-V "Van" means a commoner and lowercase-v "van" a nobleman; whereas in the Netherlands LC "van" is universal (and is ignored in alphasorting for e.g. telephone directories), and can mean either "from somewhere" or "of a noble house". German "von" is always LC and means nobility (like a British hereditary "Sir"). Once such surnames have crossed the Atlantic - well, it's anyone's guess.
 * There's an anecdote of a loudspeaker announcement at an English cricket ground in 1950. "Ladies and gentlemen, there is an error in your programmes. For F. J. Titmus, read Titmus, F. J." (Initials first = an amateur, therefore a gentleman; initials last = a professional, therefore low-born.) All we can do is our best... Narky Blert (talk) 21:50, 20 June 2021 (UTC)

Sunshine

 * thank you! ... spreading my own, feel free to share --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:38, 20 June 2021 (UTC)

Blessing to me
Gerda, you have been such a blessing to me over the last several weeks and months, even before I left for winter. I have enjoyed our conversations here in regards to life and improving this encyclopedic adventure for everyone who takes the first step to explore. I always encourage others to become explorers here, no matter what position they take. I have been fortunate to have met some extremely interesting people here and gotten to know them through Wikipedia in a way I might not have otherwise. I have also met some, through you, whom I wish I had been able to get to know better but our stars did not align for such a meeting. Still, I heard their songs through your song and my life is enriched because of it. Every encounter, whether it has been one born out of moments of kindness and our mutual common shared humanity or even those begun in moments of discord and disagreement have been moments I keep very close to my heart and will cherish forever. Forever, that seems like such a long time. Indefinite. Undefined? I think it is very defined. Eternal? Perhaps, but definitely every day that I am given to enjoy the songs around me on this Earth. I don't know what tomorrow brings but I am ready to face whatever it is. I spent this weekend in the hospital. I don't mind sharing what I know but will not speculate or entertain anything that I do not know. I woke up Friday feeling very weak. Brian, my daughters father, noted my paleness and so we arranged a flight to Fairbanks. I went to hospital there and by Saturday I was in Anchorage getting blood transfusions, I have had seven in total, and having all kinds of tests run. My hemoglobin levels have been hovering around 5-6. The transfusions typically bring me back to a low normal level for a few hours but gradually fall back to sub 7 levels which indicates that my marrow is not producing red blood cells like it should. I have had no other symptoms other than fatigue and pale skin and they have ruled out any internal bleeding based on the testing. They called in a hematologist and they scheduled a bone marrow biopsy. I had a biopsy done early in 2019 that came back negative for leukemia but they want another biopsy due to my symptoms and what the hematologist saw in my blood. It's difficult for me to stay calm in hospitals, partly due to my past and partly due to the overwhelming emotions that are tied to hospitals in general and specifically, but I will manage that. I'm not scared. I'm not even nervous. I've been trying to be the most difficult patient, its the nonconformist in me (lol). No, seriously though, I'm having fun with the hospital staff and they are are having fun right back with me. Life is too short not to have fun with it and laughing is good for body, mind and spirit. I trust you are well and thank you for the June message. I try to improve where I can and genuinely love the Wikipedia experience. -- A Rose Wolf  15:57, 21 June 2021 (UTC)
 * Perhaps you are not nervous but I am now, sending all good wishes, - feel it? LouisAlain, did you meet him yet? Also strange symptoms. Life is not fair, - insect bites being all I could complain about right now. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:05, 21 June 2021 (UTC)
 * Good recovery! Grimes2 (talk) 16:13, 21 June 2021 (UTC)
 * How could I not feel your well wishes, Gerda? The wind carries them to me no matter where I am. They are like a beautiful melody, so sweet to my ears. Life is not fair, no, and many face things they do not deserve to. It can be discouraging to many when they see it and I am sure that many more even ask why but I love that quote from one of JRR Tolkien's characters, whom he said probably most emulated himself, when the wish for dark times and heavy tasks to have never come was put forward. He said, "“So do all who live to see such times. But that is not for them to decide. All we have to decide is what to do with the time that is given us.” When faced with difficult times, we take courage in the fact that we are not the only ones to have ever experienced difficult times and also in the knowledge that "white shores and, beyond, a far green country into a swift sunrise" is always waiting around the corner ;-). It is a comfort. I have not had the fortune of meeting LouisAlain but I would very much enjoy that chance. And thank you, . Very gracious of you. -- A Rose Wolf  16:21, 21 June 2021 (UTC)
 * I was just informed that it's positive even without getting the full results back so I won't be leaving the hospital for now. They will be coming in soon to let me know what the next steps are in the process. Thank you for the positive vibes and I very much hope you will continue sending them to me. I'm not sad for me but for my daughter. She had to go through this before with her mother and I want different results this time. Anyway, chin up, deep breath, here we go! :) -- A Rose Wolf  16:35, 22 June 2021 (UTC)


 * A rainbow for my dear rainbow soul! - "Chin up" I heard in 2013, fondly remembered (and it was up already) ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:29, 24 June 2021 (UTC)
 * I needed that rainbow. Thank you so much. I think I have spent more time out of my bed staring out the window than I have in the bed. I'm like a little girl again. Every time someone knocks on the door I jump back into bed. My isolation has started. Day one began last night. The only visitors I get now are my interactions through this screen. The only people I see are the medical staff fully covered head-to-toe. But I see them and hear their songs, no gowns or gloves can hide from the eye of the soul. One thing I struggle with in the lonely times in between, It's hard not to think about little microscopic things going through my bones killing everything inside them. Mmmmm, Rainbows ~ Bright, vibrant, clear, swirling all around, pure, rich, deep, Music to the Soul, soft, warm, sweet, Sunkisses on the cheek, Rainbow calling to us, look, listen, live, love colourfully. -- A Rose Wolf  13:20, 24 June 2021 (UTC)
 * Did you know how inspiring you are? - I added more pics to my impressions, the yum-yum strawberry cake pictured, rose clouds reflected in the Rhine, - meet if you are in the mood. - Want to meet another great person who was here? Eric Corbett who said chin-up (which I didn't need but needed solace because Ched had left then). --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:41, 24 June 2021 (UTC)
 * Another great read and a beautiful song shared. Thank you. :) As far as inspirations go, I was told a version of a story a lot of people have heard before, from another dear friend, years ago. It goes like this, A man walked along the shoreline and in the distance saw a shape that looked like it may be dancing. It was on a bright and warm sunny day and the tide was slowly slipping back out to sea. As he got closer he saw it was a young woman bending over and picking something up and tossing it into the ocean. He called to her, "Young woman, what are you doing?" She replied, "I'm tossing these starfish back into the ocean before the sun dries them out." The man looked beyond her at the miles of shoreline and quipped back, "But there is too many of them and miles of shore. What can one person do? You can't possibly save them all." She briefly paused and then tossed the one she had picked up back into the ocean. Then she turned to the man and responded, "I don't have to save them all. That one is back home so I just need to make a difference for the next one." With that she bent over, picked up the next one and tossed it with a smile. That has been my approach in life when dealing with others. I have been asked if I have ever intentionally caused conflict or chaos. If I felt it would save another starfish, in a heartbeat. Songs tell me what to say and when to do. I hear because I listen. I see because I look. I sing because I know. I have saved many, lost more still, but I never give up because the next one matters. Soul work is sometimes dark and dirty. Remember to just keep singing the song that brings people home. -- A Rose Wolf  14:53, 24 June 2021 (UTC)
 * "the next one matters" - how true, thank you for the reminder! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:57, 24 June 2021 (UTC)

Folk opera
Hey, Gerda! I see you're out today -- no urgency. I was looking to see if you could advise me on this. I created Run, Little Chillun, which is described as a folk opera, as are numerous other articles. I was going to try to create a category, but I don't even know enough to figure out what the parent category would be. Is it a reasonable subject to create an article around? —valereee (talk) 19:10, 21 June 2021 (UTC)
 * —valereee, I don't know, perhaps ask project opera. Seeing that Porgy and Bess is described that way, I'd say that Opera would be a parent. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:01, 21 June 2021 (UTC)
 * Okay, I created Category:Folk operas and put a few articles into it. We'll see what happens! :) —valereee (talk) 21:09, 21 June 2021 (UTC)

Eeek!!
From: BWV 215 – The following day, the chronicle reports the death from a stroke of the trumpeter Gottfried Reiche ... blimey. I had somehow missed this fact for many years. I must watch my fitness etc ... Gosh. Goes off thinking cartefully ... DBaK (talk) 08:20, 22 June 2021 (UTC)
 * Yes, please, do watch! And don't play where torches are the only illumination. - Trumpet in the YT with Gianna Rolandi, - can you find out who the trumpeter was? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:25, 22 June 2021 (UTC)

ITN recognition for Gianna Rolandi
listen to Bach, jauchzet Gott in allen Landen --Gerda Arendt (talk) 05:54, 23 June 2021 (UTC)

I am so humbled
I am so humbled to receive this award. Thank you so much, it means a lot. And it definitely motivates me to improve the quality of important articles on wikipedia. Out of curiosity, how did you come across my work? Was it just random browsing?

Thanks once again, I appreciate it.VR talk 15:57, 23 June 2021 (UTC)
 * I look at all who say farewell to SlimVirgin, and award when I like what I see, as for you ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 18:20, 23 June 2021 (UTC)

Neuer Name
Hallo Gerda, ab sofort firmiere ich in WP nicht mehr unter Gisel sondern als Gisbert K ! Gisbert K (talk) 18:48, 23 June 2021 (UTC)
 * Thanks for letting me know, - I changed the Precious archive already. Why no redirect, though? ... leaving all your previous posts without an author? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 18:52, 23 June 2021 (UTC)
 * Hallo Gerda, WP hat weltweit in den Versionsgeschichten und auch hinsichtlich der Erstellerschaft aller Artikel, zu denen ich beigetragen habe, den alten durch den neuen Usernamen ersetzt. Nur die Signaturen auf den Diskussionsseiten sind die alten geblieben, wie du hier auf dieser Seite sehen könntest, wenn die "alten" Sachen nicht schon archiviert wären. Damit kann ich leben. Herzliche Grüße Gisbert K (talk) 10:44, 24 June 2021 (UTC)
 * You don't tell me anything I didn't know (and didn't see), but not why. In most cases of a name change, there's a redirect, for better transparency (and no extra work for me, because then I don't have to change the Precious archive). You don't have to tell me why, of course. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:15, 24 June 2021 (UTC)


 * Der Name Gisel gefällt mir schon lange nicht mehr. Hinzu kommt, dass manche Südeuropäer ihn für einen weiblichen Vornamen halten, wohl ausgehend vom französischen Giselle.
 * Auch meine Frau und andere aus meiner Umgebung legten mir nahe, den Namen zu ändern oder mit einem neuen wieder anzufangen.


 * Nachdem ich mich über die Möglichkeit und die Konsequenzen einer Umbenennung informiert hatte, habe ich mich dafür entschieden, vor allem, weil sie gewissermaßen rückwirkend geschieht (in den Versionsgeschichten).


 * Wegen der alten Signaturen auf deiner Diskussionsseite brauchst du nichts zu veranlassen, da ich (auch) im engl. WP Umleitungen von User:Gisel und User_talk:Gisel auf die neuen Seiten erstellt habe. (Muss allerdings in jedem Länder-WP eigens geschehen, soweit man das dort so haben möchte).  --  Gisbert ツ (talk) Illustrate Wikipedia! 19:49, 24 June 2021 (UTC)
 * Nothing wrong with a better name, - Gisel reminded me of Gisel und Ursel, not Giselle ;) - thank you for the redirects. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:56, 24 June 2021 (UTC)
 * You obviously can do whatever it is that you want, within guidelines, but I actually liked Gisel as a name. I most definitely wouldn't have changed it for anyone on here. -- A Rose Wolf  20:05, 24 June 2021 (UTC)
 * I started using my real name, unafraid of consequences, and was not tempted to change yet. Did you know that Eric - introduced above - asked me about that, and then decided to switch to real name? ... and when the rename happened it broke the system because he made so many contribs? ... and that I like his other self, George Ponderevo, especially. Wikipedia is so much poorer without them and their "dialogue" ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:31, 24 June 2021 (UTC)
 * I made a comment about that under yours on Eric's talk page. It's true, so true, of so many. They are missed by many who have never even heard of them because we are poorer without their voices. -- A Rose Wolf  20:40, 24 June 2021 (UTC)
 * No matter what happens, Gerda, don't let me disappear and don't let them put one of those crazy "deceased" or "gone" or "extended break" messages on my pages. I told my brother and Brian, if anything happens to me then come here and provide all the necessary documents to you, Ched or Hammersoft by email, like an obit or something. I don't anticipate that and it may just be the chemo talking but I just felt like I needed to say that. -- A Rose Wolf  20:45, 24 June 2021 (UTC)
 * It's good that you said it, not for me - I knew that - but to defend my view to others. Perhaps place it on top of your talk, where someone would insert a template. Did I introduce you to Fylbecatulous? - sorry about my bad memory. The candle still burns on SlimVirgin's otherwise light talk, and I don't like that, but her obituary which was ready in May and scheduled for 20 June still didn't appear. Well, she is missed without one. I love that she put up RexxS on top of her user page. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:55, 25 June 2021 (UTC)
 * I'm going to rest now. I'm tired. I was able to get an article updated and cleared of citations so I think I did good work for today. Much wiki-love and even more love in general. -- A Rose Wolf  20:48, 24 June 2021 (UTC)
 * Rest all you need, and I love what you did today. Dream of a rainbow. Can you listen to music where you are? Second movement of Bach's Italian Concerto was my choice for today. (O dear, another article in desperate need of some loving care ...) 4:00 --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:20, 24 June 2021 (UTC)
 * That touched my Spirit. Thank you. I pretty much have the run of the place so long as I stay in this room. I woke up this morning and sang my songs over others as I usually do. Most do not understand the power of song and music. -- A Rose Wolf  12:42, 25 June 2021 (UTC)

Smiling through the
I was having a laugh at the IMDB synopsis for the The VelociPastor, which reads: After losing his parents, a priest travels to China, where he inherits a mysterious ability that allows him to turn into a dinosaur. At first horrified by this new power, a hooker convinces him to use it to fight crime. And ninjas. After that, I looked at the Wikipedia article and realized there was a DYK for it, whose contents made me laugh some more. Then I noticed it was promoted by Yoninah. And now I'm sad. El_C 00:39, 24 June 2021 (UTC)
 * El C, I know the feeling. I wanted to reduce my watchlist (when getting near 55,555) and began with closed DYK noms, and had the feeling that they were all closed by Yoninah. I don't think she'd want us to shed tears, though, but read the articles and smile. The set in her honour came together nicely, and will be shown on 3 July, with mother and baby Elephant "kissing" pictured, and justice and peace kissing mentioned. - Let us think of those who are alive but ill. ARoseWolf, I want to send you a rainbow, but just woke up, will upload later. LouisAlain, I want to send you a chanson, - pick one, I know too little! ... or take part of the rainbow --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:44, 24 June 2021 (UTC)


 * I now uploaded some pics, St. John's wort for St. John's Day and the Johns, and a rainbow for ARoseWolf, placed further up. More to add to the impressions. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:29, 24 June 2021 (UTC)

Our collaborations....!
Hi Gerda, thanks for your messages. Yes we DID collaborate on Graham Waterhouse, and also (if you remember) on Hugh Maguire, whose lyre has since fallen silent. Despite all hopes and good intentions, going back at least to that time if not before, still no-one has written articles about Arnold Goldsborough or Herbert Downes. Although I am not a mighty one for anniversaries, I have just been celebrating one with my dear Mum, who reached a very remarkable birthday recently. I like your special new page. I am somewhat without music at present, apart from growling out some biblical chants to myself, and I can't have a piano where I am (having recently moved), so I am considering whether to invest in a spinet to dream away the idle hours. Spinets do have such a melodious twang about them: but they don't come very cheap!! I hope you are keeping well in these troublous times. warmest greetings, Eebahgum (talk) 21:34, 24 June 2021 (UTC)
 * yes I do remember, and yes, too many articles not yet written, and yes, chants are the most personal expression, with no other instruments than a voice, and yes, spinets are not cheap - look around: I'm healthy but too many are not --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:10, 24 June 2021 (UTC)

DYK for Henriette Spitzeder
Cwmhiraeth (talk) 00:02, 27 June 2021 (UTC)

DYK for Thomas Laubach
&mdash; Amakuru (talk) 00:03, 28 June 2021 (UTC)

Re:Thank you
Dear User:Gerda Arendt, you're very welcome. It is sad to see editors who have put in an immense amount of time improving the project go. I am thankful that editors like you put effort into commemorating them. With warm regards, AnupamTalk 20:40, 29 June 2021 (UTC)

Re:Thank you
Dear User:Gerda Arendt, you're very welcome. It is sad to see editors who have put in an immense amount of time improving the project go. I am thankful that editors like you put effort into commemorating them. With warm regards, AnupamTalk 20:40, 29 June 2021 (UTC)


 * (This came in reply to thank-you-notes I left yesterday for some of those who said meaningful things to User:SlimVirgin, whose last reply to me was in a thread Green for hope.)
 * I "responded", sort of, in User talk:SlimVirgin: "helping people" is the legacy. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:08, 30 June 2021 (UTC)

DYK for St. Nikolaus von Flüe, Wörsdorf
Cwmhiraeth (talk) 00:02, 1 July 2021 (UTC) ... the latest of my churches, - singing open air! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:33, 1 July 2021 (UTC)

Peter Winter
Hallo Gerda, I'm afraid I have nothing to do with this page; Some one else must get the credit.

Also, for the life of me, was soll die Deutsche Abkürzung e. V meinen und will muss es auf English überszetz werden ?

(I haven't forgotten your two last commissions)

LouisAlain (talk) 06:19, 1 July 2021 (UTC)
 * You are right, "he" was the work of many, created in 2014. - "e.V." stands for de:Eingetragener Verein, which is a specific German legal thing for associations ("listed association" perhaps). When you see it drop it, - like Dr., Prof., GmbH and such, it should normally not be in articles. - Thank you for remembering my wishes. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:33, 1 July 2021 (UTC)

Concert
I am so happy you had a wonderful time at the concert. Music has a way of lifting the soul, doesn't it? Lots of Wikilove -- A Rose Wolf  20:50, 1 July 2021 (UTC)


 * ... and it came with a rose garden, then there was dinner on the Rhine in Hattenheim, then biking around the Schierstein Harbour. While I write this the pics get loaded from camera to PC, - I hope I can illustrate some. The Handel music was very powerful, exactly what we described in the DYK above (22 April 2020!), but with 4 oboes not 18 (inside and COVID, not outdoors as for what Handel composed it). The first oboe was just marvellous, she stood up playing Ombra mai fu. Winds sit first row in Le Concert Spirituel, second row the strings, mostly standing from highest to lowest left to right, third row three horns left, three trumpets right. The conductor dancing the music and enjoying it! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:12, 1 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Visitation today, decorated with an image from a local church, - look for the garden in the background (left) and the parrot (right). --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:07, 2 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Thank you for the descriptions. It is like I am there. Simply stunning pictures you took. -- A Rose Wolf  15:55, 2 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Thank you, made my day, - struggling with Louis Andriessen, edit conflict ... --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:00, 2 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Sorry for the edit conflict. I'm done. Grimes2 (talk) 16:45, 2 July 2021 (UTC)
 * So sad that he passed yesterday. Another light goes out and the world becomes just a little darker. -- A Rose Wolf  16:05, 2 July 2021 (UTC)
 * But I see our job in pointing at that light, - and for this one and many others I have great help, - and edit conflict resolved. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:09, 2 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Very much so. I liken us as being the moon sometimes and the sun at other times. We shine our own light on others but we also point to other lights like the moon shows us the light of our sun. -- A Rose Wolf  16:15, 2 July 2021 (UTC)

. Extra flower. El_C 14:40, 4 July 2021 (UTC)

DYK for Psalm 85
Cwmhiraeth (talk) 00:02, 3 July 2021 (UTC) ... in the set today in memory of Yoninah. Around 100 psalm articles are waiting for improvement, DYK? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:24, 3 July 2021 (UTC)

Greetings Gerda
I just wanted to say hello Gerda, and to thank you for your kindness in remembering me. I am glad to see that you are still active in improving Wikipedia and want you to know that I am considering a wiki-return to editing myself. Either way, I wish you the very best!--John Cline (talk) 03:59, 3 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Lovely, John! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:24, 3 July 2021 (UTC)

DYK for Heiligen-Geist-Kapelle, Bruck
Cwmhiraeth (talk) 00:02, 4 July 2021 (UTC) ... but was rescued and restored on the initiative of Philipp Harnoncourt, who won his siblings (Nikolaus, Franz, Karl, ...), the city of Bruck and more supporters. Franz and his wife were at the opening one day after Philipp's funeral, - YouTube in the article. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:34, 4 July 2021 (UTC)

Thanks, Gerda
Thanks, Gerda, I'm glad you liked my essay ... Chiswick Chap (talk) 08:47, 4 July 2021 (UTC)
 * It's great! - Recommended reading: You don't have to be mad to work here, but, - which is so true in a broader sense for our doings here ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:55, 4 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Fourth of July, Brian's birthday, remembered in gratitude for his unfailing inspiration and support. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:11, 4 July 2021 (UTC)

History of Heiligen..., Bruck.
Statement that 'Johann Graus requested restoration in 1882' seems out of context. Is this date accurate, could it be 1982 instead. Your translation is very good but reveals that your native language is other than English. We can fix that! Spyglasses (talk) 00:22, 5 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Thank you for interest! I rely heavily on others to fix my typos and language deficiencies, and usually find them. I split the para, to mark a new century. - I fixed yours in this header, and the name of the 19th-century person ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:52, 5 July 2021 (UTC)

Wie schön leuchtet der Morgenstern, BWV 1 scheduled for TFA
This is to let you know that the above article has been scheduled as today's featured article for 25 August, 2021. Please check that the article needs no amendments. A coordinator will draft a blurb - based on your draft if the TFA came via TFA requests, or from an existing blurb on the FAC talk page if one has been posted. Feel free to comment on this. We suggest that you watchlist Main Page/Errors from the day before this appears on Main Page. Thanks and congratulations on your work. Gog the Mild (talk) 15:48, 5 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Nice idea, Gog the Mild, but this is for 25 March, as the pending list says, - I hope it won't be too difficult to find something else for that day. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:06, 5 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Drat - my poor German tripped me. I'll switch it out. A shame - I'd love to run it next month. The world will just have to wait. Gog the Mild (talk) 20:33, 5 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Bach was strict about liturgical occasion, and we made an exception once when his date for a pre-Lenten piece would have hit the modern carnival season, but with this - 25 March the one and only exception for a cantata in all of Lent - I think we should respect his idea ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:42, 5 July 2021 (UTC)

Mary Shelley scheduled for TFA
This is to let you know that the above article has been scheduled as today's featured article for 30 August, 2021. Please check that the article needs no amendments. A coordinator will draft a blurb - based on your draft if the TFA came via TFA requests, or from an existing blurb on the FAC talk page if one has been posted. Feel free to comment on this. We suggest that you watchlist Main Page/Errors from the day before this appears on Main Page. Thanks and congratulations on your work. Gog the Mild (talk) 16:00, 5 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Gog be mild, my work was only the nomination. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:00, 5 July 2021 (UTC)

Opt-out
Hi - is it possible to opt out of notifications like this? It's not really something that interests me. Thanks. — O Still Small Voice of Clam 16:46, 5 July 2021 (UTC)
 * I'll try to remember. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:01, 5 July 2021 (UTC)

DYK for Jane Margyl
&mdash; Amakuru (talk) 00:02, 6 July 2021 (UTC)

Boohoo
Don't you miss me no more? (joke; thanks for missing me for so long). Belle (talk) 11:35, 6 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Belle, belle!!! Your day just passed, and I turned to stricter rulez: whoever didn't edit during the past year obviously didn't need a new reminder. - I'll give it to you, after food. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:38, 6 July 2021 (UTC)

ITN recognition for Bill Ramsey (singer)
I remember his voice in Swingtime and Der kleine Tag. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 05:40, 7 July 2021 (UTC)

History of the Cologne Theatre
Hallo, what is actually meant here? The Oper Köln or a theatre in Cologne that has no article neither in German nor in English ? An adjutment is probably necessary. LouisAlain (talk) 13:49, 7 July 2021 (UTC)
 * This is an article about theatre in Cologne, all of it, beginning in Roman times. I am not sure we need it, - it's very specifically one town where English is not spoken, - someone's personal love it seems. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:56, 7 July 2021 (UTC)
 * It should be History of theatre in Cologne. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:58, 7 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Rule of thumb: try to avoid beauties such as "In addition, the interested visitor will find a large number of private cabaret theatres with a wide-ranging and also sophisticated repertoire". Horrible style ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:06, 7 July 2021 (UTC)

Now reading...
A Hebrew translation of Bernhard Kellermann's Der Tunnel (1913). Familiar? El_C 14:08, 7 July 2021 (UTC)
 * sorry, no, didn't know it exists - now reading Ein Bündel Wegerich about ELS's last years in Jerusalem by Christa Ludwig. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:17, 7 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Nice, sounds interesting. Apropos expressionism, I also have a Hebrew transaltion of Alfred Döblin's seminal Berlin Alexanderplatz (have read multiple-multiple times). El_C 14:53, 7 July 2021 (UTC)
 * ... that I know --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:02, 7 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Yeah, well, it'd be a major lit-trout if you didn't! El_C 15:09, 7 July 2021 (UTC)

Quoting with abandon: "The music itself came to her aid. For suddenly the surf of the tones tore her away again to an indefinite longing that was hot and glorious and stifled all thoughts. She was ear, as before. The music raced on with a breathless, frenzied passion, led by hot, seductive voices, and Maud was like a loose leaf in a storm wind. Suddenly, however, the wild, panting passion broke against an unknown obstacle, just as the wave shatters on a rock, and the thundering surf fluttered into screaming, wailing, trembling and fearful voices. (excerpted from https://www.gutenberg.org/files/44489/44489-h/44489-h.htm — translator: Google!)."

El_C 15:24, 7 July 2021 (UTC)

Now ✅. What a wild ride! Thank you for indulging me. El_C 14:47, 11 July 2021 (UTC)

Weimar cabinets
Hi Gerda, I hope you're doing fine. I'm writing you because I'm currently steering an article on German history (Presidential cabinets of the Weimar Republic) towards FAC. I've started a peer review and I was wondering whether you might be able to provide some feedback. I know you don't usually work on these kinds of articles but I thought you might have some editorial advice given that it's a Germany-related topic. I could chip in for Jesu, meine Freude, BWV 227 or any other review project you're needing help with. Best, Modussiccandi (talk) 14:50, 7 July 2021 (UTC) I'll look, sounds interesting! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:53, 7 July 2021 (UTC)
 * How kind of you! Is Jesu, meine Freude still of interest? If yes, I can write something at peer review on Saturday. (Until then, I have to prepare for a job interview on Friday...) Modussiccandi (talk) 14:58, 7 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Interest yes, rush no, only do if you are interested, and anytime. That is the article with the strangest article history I know, and I may be blind for where styles conflict. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:01, 7 July 2021 (UTC)
 * It was closed, so whatever you would like to say put on the article talk, or simply edit. Everybody. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:03, 8 July 2021 (UTC)

DYK for The City in the Middle of the Night
Cwmhiraeth (talk) 12:03, 9 July 2021 (UTC)

DYK for Deutsches Tanzarchiv Köln
Cwmhiraeth (talk) 12:02, 11 July 2021 (UTC)

SS Choctaw
Hello Gerda, a few months ago, I began work on promoting my article SS Choctaw to FA. The project eventually stalled, as I have been quite busy in real life. I would like to work on it again, and was wondering if you would be willing to help me with it.

Regards: GreatLakesShips (talk) 23:31, 11 July 2021 (UTC)
 * GreatLakesShips, I hope I'll find some time some day - not today, see below. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:21, 12 July 2021 (UTC)

DYK for Christa Ludwig (writer)
— Maile (talk) 00:03, 12 July 2021 (UTC) This was written thinking of memories. She introduced me to Rilke, Die Aufzeichnungen des Malte Laurids Brigge. Today, I also remember Frank Stähle's birthday who introduced me to Mendelssohn, Elias, remember. I am thankful having listened to Fidelio this weekend, in concert, with dear people. - I need help with Psalm 86 and about 100 other psalms, missing Yoninah, in whose memory I added Jerusalem o this hook. - Waiting: expanding holocaust survivor Esther Béjarano and tenor Rainer Trost, and both have to be today, and all the things I'm behind remebered or forgotten. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:21, 12 July 2021 (UTC)

DYK for Birgit Dahlenburg
Cwmhiraeth (talk) 12:02, 12 July 2021 (UTC)

Boohoo
Don't you miss me no more? (joke; thanks for missing me for so long). Belle (talk) 11:35, 6 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Belle, belle!!! Your day just passed, and I turned to stricter rulez: whoever didn't edit during the past year obviously didn't need a new reminder. - I'll give it to you, after food. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:38, 6 July 2021 (UTC)

Now reading...
A Hebrew translation of Bernhard Kellermann's Der Tunnel (1913). Familiar? El_C 14:08, 7 July 2021 (UTC)
 * sorry, no, didn't know it exists - now reading Ein Bündel Wegerich about ELS's last years in Jerusalem by Christa Ludwig. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:17, 7 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Nice, sounds interesting. Apropos expressionism, I also have a Hebrew transaltion of Alfred Döblin's seminal Berlin Alexanderplatz (have read multiple-multiple times). El_C 14:53, 7 July 2021 (UTC)
 * ... that I know --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:02, 7 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Yeah, well, it'd be a major lit-trout if you didn't! El_C 15:09, 7 July 2021 (UTC)

Quoting with abandon: "The music itself came to her aid. For suddenly the surf of the tones tore her away again to an indefinite longing that was hot and glorious and stifled all thoughts. She was ear, as before. The music raced on with a breathless, frenzied passion, led by hot, seductive voices, and Maud was like a loose leaf in a storm wind. Suddenly, however, the wild, panting passion broke against an unknown obstacle, just as the wave shatters on a rock, and the thundering surf fluttered into screaming, wailing, trembling and fearful voices. (excerpted from https://www.gutenberg.org/files/44489/44489-h/44489-h.htm — translator: Google!)."

El_C 15:24, 7 July 2021 (UTC)

Now ✅. What a wild ride! Thank you for indulging me. El_C 14:47, 11 July 2021 (UTC)

DYK for Christa Ludwig (writer)
— Maile (talk) 00:03, 12 July 2021 (UTC) This was written thinking of memories. She introduced me to Rilke, Die Aufzeichnungen des Malte Laurids Brigge. Today, I also remember Frank Stähle's birthday who introduced me to Mendelssohn, Elias, remember. I am thankful having listened to Fidelio this weekend, in concert, with dear people. - I need help with Psalm 86 and about 100 other psalms, missing Yoninah, in whose memory I added Jerusalem o this hook. - Waiting: expanding holocaust survivor Esther Béjarano and tenor Rainer Trost, and both have to be today, and all the things I'm behind remebered or forgotten. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:21, 12 July 2021 (UTC)

DYK for Goethe-Gymnasium, Dortmund
Cwmhiraeth (talk) 12:02, 14 July 2021 (UTC)

DYK for B. Max Mehl
Cwmhiraeth (talk) 12:03, 14 July 2021 (UTC)

DYK for Ludwig Wüllner
&mdash; Amakuru (talk) 00:03, 15 July 2021 (UTC)

DYK for I Found a Way
&mdash; Amakuru (talk) 00:03, 15 July 2021 (UTC)

DYK for William Lovelady
&mdash; Amakuru (talk) 12:04, 15 July 2021 (UTC) ... thinking of Yoninah --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:24, 15 July 2021 (UTC)

DYK for Lass uns in deinem Namen, Herr
Cwmhiraeth (talk) 00:04, 16 July 2021 (UTC) ... the courage to take the necessary steps - topic of the year --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:57, 16 July 2021 (UTC)

DYK for Die güldne Sonne voll Freud und Wonne
Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 12:02, 16 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Congratulations--well done! Drmies (talk) 13:16, 16 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Thank you, Drmies. One of the songs I received for last year's virtual birthday singing. The cousin who "gave" it to me, hesitated because of the line "... lagen darnieder" (... were down), but rising from being down in more than one sense is what the song - and life - is about. We just met last weekend, - once a year ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:24, 16 July 2021 (UTC)

Die güldne Sonne voll Freud und Wonne
Something is wrong with "This hymn's stanza format is ..." in the Text section - and its beyond my ability to fix. --PaulBetteridge (talk) 15:12, 16 July 2021 (UTC)
 * I fixed it, but didn't check yet when it broke to the table not beginning at the beginning of a line. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:21, 16 July 2021 (UTC)
 * It was an edit I made on 25 May, trying to swap images and adding refs, no intention, and nobody noticed but you! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:28, 16 July 2021 (UTC)

Flood
Some asked about the flood, and I explained in some detail (see Floq#July music) that I was not hit personally, but shocked about the loss. In my picture book, the last image I took is of rainbows over the Rhine which flooded a pedestrian bridge in Geisenheim. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:26, 17 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Glad you're ok! Rubbish computer (Talk: Contribs) 13:21, 19 July 2021 (UTC)
 * When devastation hits it is only natural to see the destruction and tremble at the magnitude of it. I know there are those who are affected and my heart reaches out to them. I know their pain of loss. But those rainbows remind me of something my grandmother used to tell me. Even in the darkest times of devastation there is beauty to be found. Sometimes it's very hard to find and it is always difficult to see past the loss but it is there if we are willing to take the time to look. I am sending my love and thoughts to those affected by this flooding. Hope is an enduring virtue of humanity! -- A Rose Wolf  13:42, 19 July 2021 (UTC)
 * "Geh aus, mein Herz, und suche Freud", that's the song I was given the most for my birthday, and it translates to "Go out, my heart, and search for delight", which is exactly what you described. The husband wrote it to his wife after they had survived the 30 years war, having lost four of five children. - Flood: my parents were treated - long ago - in the evacuated hospital, but they are no longer there. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:27, 19 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Its hard to lose something or someone you love so much. In 2018 I lost my grandmother, the strongest woman I have ever known. My youngest brother and I were with her when she passed. I couldn't take her loss so I left the hospital and walked. I came upon this diner and went inside. I saw this little girl sitting on a stool at the bar and I asked her if I could sit beside her. She looked at me but didn't speak. I sat down and tried making small talk but she never said a word. I asked what was good to eat here and she looked at her plate, a cheeseburger and fries. I ordered the same and when they brought me my plate I made a funny face on the patty with the condiments. I asked her if she wanted me to do the same for her and she nodded. I drew a face on her patty and we both began eating. She finally smiled. That was when her father showed up and was amazed that I was able to get her to eat with no fuss. I could feel the tragedy hovering over her without her saying a word. I asked her father about her and he told me that they lost her mother to cancer when she was four. She was now seven and hadn't spoken a word publicly in three years. We talked for a while and then we had to go our separate ways. I asked if I could see her again and her father agreed to meet with me the next morning there at the diner. As I walked to the diner the next morning I stopped by every store to try and find something to give her. I walked by windows looking in and I found exactly what I wanted, bought it and made it to the diner. They were both sitting together on one side of the table so I sat down opposite her and after exchanging hellos with her father I turned my focus on the little girl. I told her I had gotten her a gift but she had to promise to take care of it because its special. She nodded and I told her to close her eyes and hold out her hand. I placed it in her hand and told her to open her eyes. I had placed a rainbow keychain in her hand that said, "Be A Rainbow Today". Then I told her the story of my childhood. My fears, my pain, the never ending torture I endured and how I gave up on life and refused to speak words. But then I told her about my grandmother. How she refused to allow the darkness of a tormented life to consume me. How she said enough was enough and started fighting the shadows with her songs and words of love. She was not going to leave her grand daughter to suffer the life of a victim. She moved into the room next to mine and began holding me at night when the terrors would come. Se would sing songs in Hebrew, many from the Torah. She would squeeze me tight and rock me. One day she came home with a picture of a Rainbow and put it over my bed and dared my Papa to remove it. That night she pointed at the Rainbow and told me that I am that Rainbow. I am a Promise of a better day. All who look at the Rainbow will be reminded of the Promise that storms will not last forever and Beauty is always around the corner. A promise of renewal, that we do not have to live the existence of a victim but can rise above it and thrive in life overcoming the terror. That's my story. She helped me learn to speak again. She gave me my voice back. And I gave it to that little girl because she is that Rainbow too. That little girl became my daughter. Now I cant keep her quiet and I never want to. Her voice is so precious to me and I love hearing it. -- A Rose Wolf  15:47, 19 July 2021 (UTC)
 * I am glad your family is okay, Gerda. Sorry for the long comment but I wanted you to know part of my story. You are such a good friend to me here. -- A Rose Wolf  15:49, 19 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Your stories are wonderful and never too long! I love their details! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:52, 19 July 2021 (UTC)
 * That is a story of astonishing beauty. I had a moment of just staring into the morning light coming through my trees. Wow.
 * Gerda, was thinking about you with regard to the news. Glad you are all well. Best regards from my land of drought and fire! Antandrus (talk) 16:07, 19 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Heard about the fires, holding breath. Thank you! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:38, 19 July 2021 (UTC)
 * , meaningful words. If they don't carry you to a place of adventure and growth and open your eyes to the beauty around you then they haven't done their purpose. Very beautiful image of the sun peeking through the trees. I love seeing the light of hearts breaking through the clouds of life to reveal the colors of the soul. -- A Rose Wolf  16:15, 19 July 2021 (UTC)
 * The colours you paint carry strength and glow, thank you! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:38, 19 July 2021 (UTC)

Classical music project talk
Gerda! Sorry to bother you on an outside day; I recall you floating the idea that we make the top of the WikiProject Classical music page a little more... colorful? Like the opera talk perhaps—any ideas? I was considering throwing up some nice paintings of composers and classical music, but am not sure. Aza24 (talk) 19:33, 18 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Thank you for thinking of me. It would be very easy to copy the opera top idea: I display of recent articles, - originally it was brandnew articles, seeking help from the others, and more and more became a copy of the DYK selection. If wanted, I could do that, easily. Find out! Your name is less controversial ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:43, 18 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Indeed... hmmm, yes, I think I could definitely do something along those lines. Going to add some composers to the top of the semi abandoned Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Composers for now and will look into the other later. Aza24 (talk) 19:45, 18 July 2021 (UTC)
 * I tried here as a start, but not sure how I feel about it. Hmmmm Aza24 (talk) 19:56, 18 July 2021 (UTC)
 * I like it. Perhaps say "by Picasso", or it might be confusing --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:58, 18 July 2021 (UTC)

Thankful for you
I'm grateful for the positive energy you bring to Wikipedia. When I see you name, it usually makes me smile. I thought you should know.-- Mojo Hand (talk) 14:17, 19 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Lovely to hear, music in my ear. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:25, 19 July 2021 (UTC)

Precious award dilemma
I thank you for the "Precious" award given to me on the talk page for "songs and video games". But, I don't see it on the main project page. The talk page says I am recipient 2628; but on the project page, the actual recipient 2628 is Armadillopteryx, who was given the award for his work on articles on gay bars. It looks like the award was given two days later. Through the revision history page, I can confirm you gave the award to me. Any chance you can fix or clarify any of this. Lazman321 (talk) 18:19, 19 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Thank you so much, I knew I forgot something, because if you check history you see that I gave Armadilloperic 2629, and was puzzled but too tired ... - I'll fix! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:18, 19 July 2021 (UTC)

Why
Why did u revert my edit I did nothing wrong CoryMach77 (talk) 20:32, 20 July 2021 (UTC)
 * You did nothing right either, talking to a user who hasn't edited for a while, not giving a topic, nor a signature. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:35, 20 July 2021 (UTC)

DYK for Cordula Wöhler
—valereee (talk) 00:03, 21 July 2021 (UTC)

DYK for Cello sonatas (Vivaldi)
 Schwede 66  12:02, 21 July 2021 (UTC) Player pictured above --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:10, 21 July 2021 (UTC)

DYK for Alle Menschen höret auf dies neue Lied
Cwmhiraeth (talk) 00:02, 22 July 2021 (UTC) A new song everybody should listen to (as the first line says) about a feast: lighting candles, breaking bread, having mugs full of wine, and opening hearts, - on the birthday of a woman remembered, with lots of thanks, in a tradition of making Marillenknödeln that day. Karl Harnoncourt belongs to her family. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:50, 22 July 2021 (UTC)

DYK for Ingrid Haubold
— Maile (talk) 00:02, 23 July 2021 (UTC)

DYK for O Ewigkeit, du Donnerwort
— Maile (talk) 12:02, 23 July 2021 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of O Ewigkeit, du Donnerwort, BWV 20
Hi there, I'm pleased to inform you that I've begun reviewing the article O Ewigkeit, du Donnerwort, BWV 20 you nominated for GA-status according to the criteria. This process may take up to 7 days. Feel free to contact me with any questions or comments you might have during this period. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of GeneralPoxter -- GeneralPoxter (talk) 22:01, 23 July 2021 (UTC)

August Editathons from Women in Red
--Megalibrarygirl (talk) 22:25, 23 July 2021 (UTC) via MassMessaging

Gedränge
Good morning, Gerda. Sorry, I hadn't noticed you were working on the Biolek article right then. I hope I didn't cause too many edit conflicts. Take care. ---Sluzzelin talk  07:51, 24 July 2021 (UTC)
 * I didn't even notice, no problem, and thanks for your work there! I try to keep edits short, - do the same, please. Alfred Biolek for those who don't know and want to help. Memories. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:54, 24 July 2021 (UTC)

DYK for Nele Hertling
— Maile (talk) 12:02, 25 July 2021 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of O Ewigkeit, du Donnerwort, BWV 20
The article O Ewigkeit, du Donnerwort, BWV 20 you nominated as a good article has been placed on hold. The article is close to meeting the good article criteria, but there are some minor changes or clarifications needing to be addressed. If these are fixed within 7 days, the article will pass; otherwise it may fail. See Talk:O Ewigkeit, du Donnerwort, BWV 20 for issues which need to be addressed. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of GeneralPoxter -- GeneralPoxter (talk) 22:00, 26 July 2021 (UTC)Wussten Sie schon? ... dass Nele Hertling, die für die Akademie der Künste in Berlin arbeitete, innovative Kultur in die Stadt brachte, darunter das Festival Tanz im August? Jetzt weiß ich es! † Encyclopædius  11:15, 27 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Gut. - The German term for DYK is "Schon gewusst?" - Too bad they didn't take the image. Perhaps a woman has to be young and wear make-up to be pictured on the Main page? At least the theatre she managed will be pictured, sigh, and only because I insisted. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:33, 27 July 2021 (UTC)

O Ewigkeit trumpet
When you have performed it, has the trumpet player changed instruments for no. 8? I've got very limited experience on nat (train wreck, don't ask) and none on slide so I am unclear as to whether you can just do the nat stuff on the slide instrument (without moving it!!) or if the tirarsi makes a rubbish nat? And yes, I should look it up, but sometimes it is nicer and/or better to start by asking your friends! (Clarification: no. 8 is a nat in C. In all the other movements it's a tirarsi playing merrily away in F. Without knowing for sure, my feeling nevertheless would be that a tirarsi, notwithstanding its perhaps [??] being fully chromatic, that works well in F might be a stinker when slideless in C. But what do I know? Fast nichts.) Cheers DBaK (talk) 23:19, 26 July 2021 (UTC)
 * About trumpets, nothing is exactly what I know. I never sang it, but I heard it being played in Frankfurt on 13 June, Graham came along and was impressed. I didn't see her change instruments, but I'm not watchful for such things. She changed position for the aria, coming to the front. I don't take pics during the service, and for conclusion - instead of a postlude - they did the opening again (and then we clap or hands). (The pic used is from a different day.) Perhaps ask, the conductor's site is a ref for Gelobet sei der Herr täglich. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:19, 27 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Thanks! I am far too chicken to ask someone I don't know, but I will ask someone in the business here and that will sort out my curiosity! I do like your pic, regardless of which day ... Cheers DBaK (talk) 14:29, 27 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Up to you! - I looked up the La Folia orchestra for the name of their trumpeter, and he isn't one of the two pictured for trumpet. You could still address the orchestra's website for who played trumpet in the concert at Eberbach Abbey and moved from far right in the beginning to far left right afterwards, - chicken or not, nothing personal. You could also check out trumpeters for a rather characteristic hair-do. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:39, 27 July 2021 (UTC)

Ich bin stolz, ich habe das Wort gesehen und wusste sofort, dass es Ewigkeit (eternity) bedeutet! † Encyclopædius  11:18, 27 July 2021 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of O Ewigkeit, du Donnerwort, BWV 20
The article O Ewigkeit, du Donnerwort, BWV 20 you nominated as a good article has passed ; see Talk:O Ewigkeit, du Donnerwort, BWV 20 for comments about the article. Well done! If the article has not already appeared on the main page as a "Did you know" item, or as a bold link under "In the News" or in the "On This Day" prose section, you can nominate it within the next seven days to appear in DYK. Bolded names with dates listed at the bottom of the "On This Day" column do not affect DYK eligibility. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of GeneralPoxter -- GeneralPoxter (talk) 22:41, 27 July 2021 (UTC)
 * GP, thank you for a thoughtful review! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:53, 27 July 2021 (UTC)

TFP Carmen
Today's featured picture is the poster for the premiere of Carmen, article by Brianboulton, picture by Adam Cuerden. Thanks to all involved! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:37, 28 July 2021 (UTC)

DYK for Hebbel-Theater
Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 12:02, 28 July 2021 (UTC)

DYK for Lili Marberg
Cwmhiraeth (talk) 00:02, 31 July 2021 (UTC)

de:Hitler-Eiche
Hallo, would it be ok to translate that one considering there's already a Olympic oaks which seems quite unrelated ? LouisAlain (talk) 12:08, 31 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Why would you waste any time on that? There's no gap on the English Wikipedia that cries out to be filled. -- Michael Bednarek (talk) 12:42, 31 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Feel the same, Michael, thank you. No DYK I'd want, not even work. Find trees dedicated to noble causes, perhaps. Ben Wagin. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:50, 31 July 2021 (UTC)

DYK for Chetana Nagavajara's suitability for Portal:Germany/Did you know
Hello there, is the DYK for Chetana Nagavajara suitable to be put in Portal:Germany/Did you know? While the hook/fact itself is not related to Germany, the subject of the DYK has works in the area of German literature. Thank you very much in advance for your reply. --Karto1 (talk) 18:13, 31 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Yes, Karto1, he's fine, - any relation to Germany is wanted, for variety. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:39, 31 July 2021 (UTC)

Happy First Edit Day!

 * Thank you! I hope so, it's also - coincidence - the birthday of Franz Harnoncourt, or Harnoncourt-Unverzagt, and unverzagt means unafraid - coincidence. He is the brother of Nikolaus Harnoncourt, Philipp Harnoncourt and Karl Harnoncourt, and I wish I could find enough about their sisters Juliana and Alice for articles. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 05:59, 2 August 2021 (UTC)
 * Can't find more than that Juliana married Herrn Theiner and they had 5 children. Other relations: Alice Harnoncourt (sister-in-law), Alice Hoppe-Harnoncourt (niece), and Ladislaja Harnoncourt (mother). --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:26, 2 August 2021 (UTC)
 * Always a pleasure to cheer up Wikipedia's cheer-leader, and apologies for the fluorescent yellow in my W-B-Day greeting (oops, I did it again) <b style="font-family:Georgia"><em style="color:Purple">History DMZ  (<em style="color:Red">HQ ) † (<em style="color:Green">wire )</b> 03:14, 3 August 2021 (UTC)
 * Thank you, and I also did it again, giving the candles a chance and the flowers ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:25, 3 August 2021 (UTC)
 * Yay!!! Happy Wiki-birthday, beautiful! You have been a brilliant light from the beginning. -- A Rose Wolf  15:50, 2 August 2021 (UTC)
 * Thank you, dear song - I thought of you when walking outside, - will get to flowers for you after food! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 18:05, 2 August 2021 (UTC)
 * A very happy Wikibirthday Gerda!!!! I can't think of a better compliment than ARoseWolf's so I will just say that thousands (if not hundreds of thousands) of people have benefited from reading the articles you have worked on. Many thanks! MarnetteD&#124;Talk 16:24, 2 August 2021 (UTC)


 * And another -- happy wiki-birthday Gerda -- Wikipedia is a much finer place with you around -- keep on keeping on, and writing wonderful stuff. Antandrus (talk) 16:46, 2 August 2021 (UTC)
 * Thank you, all, and Ched below, _ I remember the day quite well when I wanted to fill a red link, and the article was deleted within minutes ;) - subject now played for my real birthday, pictured, as you know. The plan is to repeat that next year, with hopefully more listeners. You are invited! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 18:05, 2 August 2021 (UTC)

Thank you for what you have done in the 12 years in Wikipedia. Grimes2 (talk) 07:29, 3 August 2021 (UTC)

DYK for Franz Harnoncourt
Cwmhiraeth (talk) 12:03, 2 August 2021 (UTC)

Just stopped by ...
to wish you a   — Ched (talk) 17:49, 2 August 2021 (UTC)

Happy First Edit Day!
<div class="boilerplate metadata" style="background-color:#E6E6FA; border: 1px solid #7D00B3; margin: 0.5em auto; padding: 0.5em; width:90%; text-align: center"> Happy First Edit Day! Have a very happy first edit anniversary!

From the Birthday Committee, CAPTAIN RAJU (T) 22:15, 2 August 2021 (UTC)
 * Thank you, it was lovely, see above. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:22, 2 August 2021 (UTC)

3 August
... continuing the memories: 3 August was the day I was named awesome Wikipedian by Rlevse, and Brianboulton by Neutralhomer, - I always liked that coincidence. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:11, 3 August 2021 (UTC)

4 August
... the day that Jerome Kohl died, as we learned much later - In Freundschaft. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:25, 4 August 2021 (UTC)

your question
artists management — Preceding unsigned comment added by OceanRockLegend (talk • contribs) 14:44, 2 August 2021 (UTC)
 * You must be new. Perhaps we better talk your place. For watchful people: Ivan Moody, removal of sourced information, more than once. - Please sign your posts on talk pages. Artists management has no control over Wikipedia. All editors better obey WP:BRD: when you are reverted, never revert back but explain your cause on the article talk, and find consensus for it. If your revert a third time you may be blocked. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:51, 2 August 2021 (UTC)
 * (reverted three times - blocked for 3 days) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 23:00, 2 August 2021 (UTC)
 * :O How dare you, ! I beat you to the punch and you overrode my edit. You know this, of course, means war (lol)!! -- A Rose Wolf  17:12, 3 August 2021 (UTC)

Thank you!
Thank you Gerda Arendt for noticing my contributions of images in Mississippi! 2618

Bob Cummings (talk) 21:36, 4 August 2021 (UTC)
 * Thank you for coming over, - it was my pleasure. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:48, 4 August 2021 (UTC)

Help for Beethoven Op. 110
Hello Gerda, I have been working on Piano Sonata No. 31 (Beethoven) (fixing citations and verifying content), and the Composition and Form sections are basically flushed out right now. However, I'm having trouble finding viable material for Reception (I could only find one contemporary review by a named author!) as well as a concise but comprehensive discography (AllMusic and Presto results are in the hundreds). Since the piano sonata is relatively notable, there is a lot of content swimming around that I need to trudge through, and I was wondering if you had any helpful suggestions/resources for doing this. Thanks, GeneralPoxter (talk • contribs) 21:41, 4 August 2021 (UTC)
 * Interesting project! I have no specific experience with the prominent works, rather attached to the obscure hymns and cantatas. Perhaps ask project classical music? Michael Bednarek? Aza24? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:48, 4 August 2021 (UTC)
 * I have always found Op. 110 extremely unusual; very pastoral and cantabile which is rare in these late sonatas—though there are some other precedents I suppose. Check out pages 4–5 here. I suspect that in general, Beethoven had already been "colloquially deified" by the 1820s—so an negative review might not exist. The piece has been thoroughly analyzed though, particularly the fugue: Schenker has well known analysis of all the late ones (see here for Op. 110); other articles:, , ). Aza24 (talk) 23:40, 4 August 2021 (UTC)
 * Thank you, that's excellent! ... and some day 111, please. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:45, 5 August 2021 (UTC)
 * Thanks for your help Aza24 and Gerda. As for the reviews, I was more concerned about contemporaneous reviews, but thanks for pointing out the introduction passage in Senner's book–I think that should well enough summarize the contemporary attitude towards the sonata. I'm kind of intimidated by Op. 111, since my comfort zone has always been solo writing on works with a manageable scholarship. Hopefully Op. 110 can get me prepared for that task... GeneralPoxter (talk • contribs) 06:53, 5 August 2021 (UTC)
 * ... while 111 would have an extra paragraph about how Thomas Mann put reception in an imagined Adorno's mouth in Doktor Faustus - intimidating it is, but courage is my key word for the year! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:06, 5 August 2021 (UTC)

DYK for Andreas Schnider
&mdash; Amakuru (talk) 12:03, 5 August 2021 (UTC)

Oops!
Hello Gerda! I see I made a mistake when I tried to add the DYK stats for James Reuel Smith. If you have a moment, could you let me know where I am supposed to add stats so I don't make the same mistake in the future? Thanks in advance. Netherzone (talk) 15:15, 5 August 2021 (UTC)
 * No problem, you added to the archive, but that should be filled only when the month is assembled. You add a new one to WP:DYKSTATS, header the current month (which is hidden rather below, sorry about that, I didn't design it, and didnt think of it.) Imagine you had one in August, you'd add to plain header "August 2021", sorted within the month by number of views downwards. - Normally the current month and the month before are kept on that page. I just archived June. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:20, 5 August 2021 (UTC)
 * Thank you! I'll make a note of this so I don't repeat the mistake. Netherzone (talk) 16:09, 5 August 2021 (UTC)

Hey bro!
Hey Gerda! I am back and ready to edit again! This two month break was really needed as I was getting ready for school and hanging out with my friends who are moving out of my home state. You know I'm shooting for the stars, aiming for the moon 💫 (talk) 06:19, 6 August 2021 (UTC)
 * Good. Next time, please don't frighten us ;) - I niss my bro rabbit who did the same, and didn't return. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:32, 6 August 2021 (UTC)
 * Look at this beautiful painting of Pop Smoke that looks like The Last Supper. I know this sounds silly, but I came back because I promised Pop Smoke to make all his articles GA.
 * You know I'm shooting for the stars, aiming for the moon 💫 (talk) 08:28, 6 August 2021 (UTC)
 * Lovely, and not silly at all! Go ahead, and some day please just follow the good recommendations for the reception section of the Main article. You interrupted work on a church with the Passion carved in stone, - fits perfectly. I took 3 of the images. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:37, 6 August 2021 (UTC)
 * I think Shoot for the Stars, Aim for the Moon can pass FA if the reception section is improved. Only problem is, I suck when it comes to that part. You know I'm shooting for the stars, aiming for the moon 💫 (talk) 19:29, 6 August 2021 (UTC)
 * I think the same, so aim to learn it, or aim to find help, or both. The comments in the FAC were quite detailed and possibly are that help. - Sorry for combining, - I try to stay at 50 threads.

Clara Leiser
Maybe you have an interest in helping me with this one? I'm sure it's front page material. User:Scope creep, you may be interested as well, via the Rote Kapelle. Drmies (talk) 21:24, 6 August 2021 (UTC)
 * I'm interested but quite "booked", so yes if no rush. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:41, 6 August 2021 (UTC)

DYK for Jochen Schmidt (dance critic)
&mdash; Amakuru (talk) 00:02, 7 August 2021 (UTC)

DYK for Inferno (opera)
&mdash; Amakuru (talk) 00:03, 7 August 2021 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

 * I concur! LouisAlain (talk) 21:23, 7 August 2021 (UTC)
 * Thank you, but I guess half of "my articles" are created by LouisAlain ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:52, 7 August 2021 (UTC)
 * Excellent teamwork. Paradise Chronicle (talk) 22:08, 7 August 2021 (UTC)

Theatre of the World
First thank you for withdrawing the DYK nomination. Please don't take my comment personally - it is DYK that I find objectionable and there was absolutely no information to tell me that a new article would be subject immediately to this promotion - so a shock to me, or at least a surprise. Yes, I feel strongly, obviously. I'll do my best to explain. A reader coming to the main page who knew that Andriessen had died might wonder why a different fact is promoted, and would think it odd. A reader who didn't know Andriessen had died, seeing that DYK info might read the article and be none the wiser (considering an edit using the term 'last opera' or 'by the late..'). So, the automatic mechanism by which DYK happens is upsetting. It is nothing to do with writing the article 'for myself' and I find that suggestion unprofessional. The opera was a commission by the LA phil as are many foreign composers commissioned by orchestras in other countries, nothing notable there. I hope that gives some clarity. Thanks again.Thelisteninghand (talk) 14:52, 8 August 2021 (UTC)
 * Thank you for explaining, Thelisteninghand. I hope you will understand that I see it differently:
 * A fact about an opera is as valid before as after its composer died, - it's about the opera, not the composer.
 * That Andriessen died was shown on our Main page in the Recent deaths section from 2 to 4 July, and some who looked at his article may have come from there. Long live his memory, and forgive me for having thought that nothing would be better for keeping it than exposing his works.
 * Nothing on DYK goes "automatically". I look around for new articles worthy to be presented on the Main page, and yours was among them. On my user page, there are 2 more going to be nominated, both compositions, both composers died. Any objections?
 * I apologise for the sloppy wording "keep for yourself". What I meant was that without DYK, the opera received so far less than 200 views, many of which will be your own edits, so: for whom did you write the article, and how to reach them? DYK would give it about thousand more views, and being an opera, it would also go to the talk page of project opera, for more interest by those interested in opera, and not clicking and forgetting. It was meant as an offer to broaden knowledge, and I still don't quite understand what you found so "nightmarish" about that. English isn't my first language, - that sometimes adds to misunderstandings.
 * In a nutshell: I embraced DYK from the start, and you seem to find it problematic, and I will not touch "your" articles again, just like to understand. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:31, 8 August 2021 (UTC)
 * Thelisteninghand, I simply do not understand your objections at all. Your hypothetical reader who comes to the front page etc., that is so incredibly hypothetical that it beggars belief. There is no "automatic mechanism" for DYK (I don't know where you got that from)--Gerda just happens to promote a lot of valid material on the front page, and has probably pulled more readers into new articles than most of us can dream of. And I am sure she thought she'd be doing a nice thing for you, getting a few thousand readers to look at the article you wrote, about an opera by someone you seem to care about. So that you'd have to go and complain at the Teahouse rather than ask Gerda or the reviewer on their talk page, that's really just not done, and it's very uncollegial. Sorry. Drmies (talk) 21:51, 9 August 2021 (UTC)
 * Drmies is correct in that it could have been handled better. Gerda is one of the most caring individuals I have been fortunate to get to know here on this encyclopedia. I have never known Gerda to be unapproachable and I don't feel the Teahouse comment was necessary. The purpose for DYK is to direct editors to recently written or recently updated articles that may be of interest and it has been proven to generate a lot of views. As Gerda pointed out, the hope was to direct viewers to the works of a recently passed away composer of opera. I was fortunate to read it and it was well put together. Knowledge can be a powerful thing and I simply don't understand the desire to limit exposure to it. I don't know, maybe I am reading that wrong. I allow room for being mistaken. -- A Rose Wolf  14:37, 10 August 2021 (UTC)


 * Thelisteninghand, what do you think of the DYK below (or on this page)? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 05:39, 11 August 2021 (UTC)

DYK for Gelobet sei der Herr täglich
— Maile (talk) 00:03, 9 August 2021 (UTC)

DYK for Rainer Trost
&mdash; Amakuru (talk) 00:02, 11 August 2021 (UTC)

DYK for Heidi Grant Murphy
 Schwede 66  12:04, 11 August 2021 (UTC)

Main photo Ivan moody page
Does anyone object to adding a more recent photo of Ivan Moody performing live? If this is ok, can we do this without an edit war?. The photo will be of Ivan. Let us know thanks OceanRockLegend, please sign your posts, and this is a question for the article talk. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:58, 11 August 2021 (UTC)

DYK for Mika Kares
Cwmhiraeth (talk) 12:03, 12 August 2021 (UTC)

DYK for Hallowe'en (Ives)
Cwmhiraeth (talk) 00:02, 13 August 2021 (UTC)

to celebrate --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:00, 13 August 2021 (UTC)

revert about J. Kohl
Hello, why did you revert my edit ? Thanks for your answer because I do not understand why you restored a bad spelling for this word “knowledgeable”. It has very low incidence and it avoids to surprise a reader. Regards. LeoAlig (talk) 11:29, 13 August 2021 (UTC)
 * See WP:TPO. -- Michael Bednarek (talk) 11:46, 13 August 2021 (UTC)
 * Apropos Jerry: Gerda, did you notice de:Wikipedia:Gedenkseite für verstorbene Wikipedianer and fr:Wikipédia:En mémoire de...? -- Michael Bednarek (talk) 11:51, 13 August 2021 (UTC)
 * (edit conflict, Michael is faster) As I said in my edit summary: there's no need to "correct" the spelling of other users on user talk pages. Correct in articles, and correct your own. There's also sometimes American vs. UK spelling. On user talk, best leave the comments of other users alone. If you are determined to have something changed, approach the other user. - Missing Jerome in Freundschaft. - Thank you Michael, no, I missed that, good to know. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:53, 13 August 2021 (UTC)
 * I understand the rule for cases where it is excessive and when it is done in a bad spirit. In this case, I don’t think it’s American spelling, because it leads to bad pronunciation: unless you prove otherwise (my Oxford dictionary did not report any American peculiarities in this regard). So I think you’ve lost too much energy for such a small thing and also to restore what appears to be a typo. Good luck. --LeoAlig (talk) 19:09, 14 August 2021 (UTC)
 * I lost no energy by simply reverting, and not as vandalism, but with an explanation. The one who keeps the topic as if if it was important are you. Bad pronunciation on a user talk doesn't matter as long as the intended meaning is clear, - that's my practical approach. Fighting bad pronunciation in articles is a much worthier goal. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:12, 14 August 2021 (UTC)
 * I understand, Gerda, but I must emphasize that this "in memoriam" section is not exactly a classic part of a discussion page, and perhaps it deserves better treatment (as it is destined to remain eternally in this state), which I tried to do. I also indicate that I am primarily a French contributor and that I sometimes edit English pages, which e.g. I did about the French Marshal Macdonald. Returning to this discussion page, I had taken a look at it because I had seen the equivalent page about J. Kohl on fr.wikipedia which then referred here. --LeoAlig (talk) 20:44, 14 August 2021 (UTC)
 * merci --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:51, 14 August 2021 (UTC)

Please could you confirm...
I believe you are a native, or at least fluent, German speaker. You expressed some interest in the DYK issues around the Alica Schmidt article. Could I ask you to confirm whether or not it is possible to know from this source whether Schmidt had been selected for the mixed 4x400m, or the women's 4x400m? Additionally, does the source state clearly whether she was expected to actually participate, or simply to be part of the squad? With thanks, Kevin McE (talk) 16:00, 13 August 2021 (UTC)
 * I don't see a clear indication on that page on whether it was mixed 4x400m or women's 4x400m. It says she qualified for the sprint, nothing about whether she would participate or not. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk) 16:04, 13 August 2021 (UTC)
 * not today, sorry, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:26, 13 August 2021 (UTC)
 * waking up: Kevin, I'll look. - The key question, however is not what the source says, and if it was interpreted correctly, but how to approach colleages who made a mistake which lead to an error. I am one of them (not in this case that brought you to WP:Great Dismal Swamp, but we all make mistakes). While you wait fot me doing my morning round, of thanks, checking my watch list, dealing with the articles of two people who recently died (postponed yeaterday), and look at my article for today, perhaps click on 13 August songs. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:24, 14 August 2021 (UTC)
 * Kevin, finally (and one of the two recebt deaths will still have to wait another day): We read a newspaper interested in athletes from the Berlin region and their chances in the Olympics in Tokyo. The sentence in question reads "Auch die 400-Meter-Läuferinnen Karolina Pahlitzsch von der LG Nord Berlin und Alica Schmidt vom SCC Berlin haben sich jeweils für die Staffel qualifiziert." which I would translate as that two runners of the 400 m distance, K.P. and A.Sch., both qualified for the relay (Staffel). From the list of events below we learn (if we didn't know) that there's a women's relay and a men's relay, no mixed relay. It doesn't say A.Sch. was selected, - "qualified" isn't the same. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:35, 14 August 2021 (UTC)

Hey Gerda!
You know, I've sometimes thought, ''Does anyone give Gerda a precious? Because she deserves it as much as anyone.'' The QPQ change really does seem necessary, after all these years, to clear the longstanding backlog. An add-on, yes, was to say that reviews should wait for the QPQ to be supplied but (and tis is really true) I consciously made the word should, not must, to leave a little wiggle room. Please don't let any of this sour you or discourage you from continuing your great work. And you know I hardly ever say anything nice about anybody. <b style="color:red;">E</b><b style="color:blue;">Eng</b> 02:14, 15 August 2021 (UTC)
 * EEng, thank you for coming over. I replied on the DYK talk about my love for DYK and its fading, which is sad but has nothing to do with your proposal. - The sourness comes from endless talks telling me that my news is not for the masses, and not accepting that I don't care as long as I reach those for whom it is. - Go over the noms page, perhaps you can help. Most dear to my heart, so hurting most: Template:Did you know nominations/Giedrė Šlekytė, and all it would take to fix it was an approval of the compromise ALT0b. Imagine how much time - possibly for reviewing! - I'd have won if the original hook had simply been approved. - The answer to your first question is: Rlevse on 3 August 2010 (mentioned further up), Ched on 18 February 2012, and Littleolive oil on 7 February 2017. I am blssed by having friends here, really, - just look above. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:12, 15 August 2021 (UTC)
 * Gerda, send help, we lost Canada and Mexico to the hogs already! El_C 15:19, 15 August 2021 (UTC)
 * Could not agree more with "endless talks telling me that my news is not for the masses". #1 reason I don't bother any more. I appreciate that you try to put light, love, music and beauty into our world and consciously try to encourage others, more than I could ever say. You make me smile, Gerda. SusunW (talk) 15:39, 15 August 2021 (UTC)
 * Thanks all, after a great day, more pics to follow - Mary + Monteverdi! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:44, 15 August 2021 (UTC)
 * As I was too tired after church service for a Marian feast day, good country food, walk above Eberbach Abbey, concert there with music by Monteverdi and his contemporaries combined to a Marienvesper, performed by Roland Wilson and his ensembles, and finally biking up to the highest point above the Abbey, for great views, here's the short version. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:39, 16 August 2021 (UTC)
 * Gerda is one of the most precious people I have been fortunate to meet here. Susun is right, the light, love, music and beauty brought into our world is amazing in itself. Add to that all of the encouragement. The path I have walked the last few months would have been so much more difficult without my friends here in Gerda and Susun, among others. You may be blessed Gerda but you are also a blessing to all of us that know and love you. -- A Rose Wolf  16:06, 19 August 2021 (UTC)
 * imagine red-rose blushing --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:00, 19 August 2021 (UTC)

User:UBX/Authority control
Since Template talk:Authority control/Archive 12 from ~2 months ago, and recently Template talk:Authority control/Archive 12, you might want to add somewhere in your userspace. In the event of another RFC or similar, it can be easier to find AC users for input. ~ Tom.Reding (talk ⋅dgaf) 17:19, 15 August 2021 (UTC)
 * Thank you, Tom. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:44, 15 August 2021 (UTC)

DYK for Florian Boesch
—valereee (talk) 12:04, 16 August 2021 (UTC)

DYK for Margarita Gritskova
Cwmhiraeth (talk) 12:02, 17 August 2021 (UTC) DYK that I happened to be at his Met debut? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:11, 17 August 2021 (UTC)

DYK for Psalm 86
Vanamonde (Talk) 00:02, 18 August 2021 (UTC) in memory of Yoninah, and I once sang Psalm 68 - including many other psalms - at the Kurhaus Wiesbaden which is pictured above with a concert conducted by Lahav Shani from Isarael --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:57, 18 August 2021 (UTC)

DYK for Gottfried Hornik
— Maile (talk) 12:02, 18 August 2021 (UTC)

DYK for Schloss Gripsholm
— Maile (talk) 12:03, 18 August 2021 (UTC)

DYK for Tone Roads No. 1
Cwmhiraeth (talk) 00:02, 19 August 2021 (UTC)

The Dark Side of the Force is a pathway to many abilities some consider to be unnatural
A sneak peek of things to come: Dialogos. El_C 01:38, 19 August 2021 (UTC)

...that's my talk page
You deleted my comment on my talk page. OneOffUserName (talk) 08:28, 19 August 2021 (UTC)
 * and how would I have known? - thank you for a sign of life --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:33, 19 August 2021 (UTC)
 * .. understand now, - bad memory, sorry --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:38, 19 August 2021 (UTC)

DYK for Vera Schoenenberg
 Schwede 66  12:03, 19 August 2021 (UTC)

Intesa Sanpaolo
Hi, I tried to revert a large deletion edit to the above article, but I couldn't because a message said there was a link to a Wikipedia blacklist site. This is too technical for me. Can you help? Thanks Denisarona (talk) 07:04, 20 August 2021 (UTC)
 * Sorry, I don't get it. I have no idea about the topic, why do you ask me? By "deletion edit", do you mean the one with the edit summary "tighten prose throughout"? I looked at the beginning and agree with the tightening. - I suggest you find the offending link and remove that when you perform an "undo" (which gives you the possibility to edit the result). "rollback" isn't polite, and only for vandalism, not someone's serious attempt to tighten the prose. I'd try to engage the IP. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:16, 20 August 2021 (UTC)
 * All ok now. User:Materialscientist reverted the edit. Denisarona (talk) 07:18, 20 August 2021 (UTC)

DYK for Francis Burt (composer)
— Maile (talk) 00:03, 21 August 2021 (UTC)

DYK for Giedrė Šlekytė
Vanamonde (Talk) 12:02, 21 August 2021 (UTC) admirable! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:31, 21 August 2021 (UTC)

Fritz Waerndorfer
Hi Gerda! I started a draft recently that you might be interested in: Fritz Waerndorfer. He had quite a life! Best, Thriley (talk) 14:43, 23 August 2021 (UTC)
 * you are right! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:45, 23 August 2021 (UTC)

DYK for Ada Baker
— Maile (talk) 12:02, 24 August 2021 (UTC)

DYK for Nimm, o Gott, die Gaben, die wir bringen
Cwmhiraeth (talk) 00:02, 25 August 2021 (UTC)

Congratulation

 * A truly amazing feat! (applause) —Kusma (talk) 10:25, 26 August 2021 (UTC)
 * Thank you, both! If #2 still had any interest, I could not have done it, but now he's learning German instead ;) - Seriously: it's easy. In 2015, I decided to leave the infobox circus (due to health reasons) - longish discussions for very few articles by very few editors with a specific taste for a clean image instead of information provided for "idiots" - and turned to writing one simple short article every day, - typically not "attacked" by those (with one exception in 2018, which didn't go to DYK - rather no DYK than show an article without infobox). As I feel some urgency to tell these news, they resulted in almost as many DYK, some 200+ for several years, which accumulated nicely. Thanks to LouisAlain who comes up with many more than one topic per day so I can choose, and Grimes2 who serves references and new articles like magic, it's wonderfully easy! Do the same, y'all, don't care about the infoboxes in articles that others wrote, - write your own instead, in collaboration. You'll miss things like this - just discovered, but you will not miss much. To more good news and knowledge - today's plans a woman who wrote children's books and a soprano - and thanks to all who help! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:38, 26 August 2021 (UTC)

Congrats!!! I'm amazed it took so long I haven't contributed to DYK myself in over 6 years! I thought Cwmhiraeth in particular would have had about 3000 by now! † Encyclopædius  14:45, 26 August 2021 (UTC)

Congratulations! A stunning achievement – Aza24 (talk) 23:05, 26 August 2021 (UTC)

DYK for Kazimierz Kowalski
Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 12:02, 26 August 2021 (UTC)

September 2021 at Women in Red
Gunilla Bergström! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:47, 27 August 2021 (UTC)

DYK for Erich Witte
Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 00:02, 27 August 2021 (UTC)

Bio's Bahnhof
Thanks for writing (translating) that article. I remember the show. At high school, we had a very flamboyant Kate in our class and ever since Kate Bush came to fame, our Kate has always been known as "Kate Bush". It caused some hilarious moments!  Schwede 66  10:03, 28 August 2021 (UTC)
 * Thank you, that's cute! We talk about Bio's Bahnhof, translated in thankful memory of it's creator who sang and danced with his stars and unknown, all united in live performances. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:30, 28 August 2021 (UTC)

Request
Gerda, would be great if you could take a look at the article for the Soiscél Molaisse, now at FAC. I think you know the improvement areas for my articles inside out at this stage, and your help is always much appreciated. No worries if swamped, and thanks. Ceoil (talk) 10:56, 28 August 2021 (UTC)
 * Thank you, I'll place it in line with a few waiting, and look forward to it: your works on art are treasures! - I'm on memory lane today, thankful that my horrible mood when listening to a concert eight years ago is a thing of the past. On 21 August 2013, I listened to Andreas Scholl singing a Bach cantata, and again yesterday (a different one, BWV 82 which I plan to get to GA), with his wife at the harpsichord, at Lutherkirche, Wiesbaden (with some similarities to the Honan Chapel), - all three concerts part of Rheingau Musik Festival which I have loved from its humble beginnings. Back to Scholl: he sang for us in unforgettable concerts. On one occasion, I talked to him, and he said the Agnus Dei from the B minor was the greatest music for an alto - his encore yesterday. I stood in line with his wife for the loo, talking about his (then upcoming) Messiah. When he sang "He was despised" you could have heard a needle fall. More Scholl: Eric helped, still under his pen name at the time but discussing to go for real. He was despised, and too many others banned or having given up, RexxS, Hillbillyholiday who consoled me ... - Thank you for being around! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:50, 28 August 2021 (UTC)
 * Further on memory lane: Teresa Żylis-Gara died, the second soprano who impressed me on stage. So plans to improve BWV 82 today are postponed to tomorrow. I had planned to improve her article to GA for her birthday in January. Too late for her to enjoy, but I'll improve, promised. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:42, 28 August 2021 (UTC)
 * Hillbilly is alive and well, though not here! You last post lead me to Verdi: Requiem Teresa Żylis-Gara, Szostek-Radkowa, Mróz, Ochman. I know the requiem very well, but not this recording. Speechless. Ceoil (talk) 21:08, 28 August 2021 (UTC)
 * Will listen when I have more time - here's a short gem. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:17, 28 August 2021 (UTC)
 * Wow. That goes straight into my heavy rotation list. The opening melody reminds me of . Ceoil (talk) 21:25, 28 August 2021 (UTC)

DYK for Linda Watson (soprano)
&mdash; Amakuru (talk) 12:03, 28 August 2021 (UTC)

DYK for Claus Guth
&mdash; Amakuru (talk) 00:02, 29 August 2021 (UTC)

ITN recognition for Teresa Żylis-Gara
Polish songs. Listening to her gave me an idea of what singing can mean. I saw her in the role that Gramophone mentioned as the beginning of her international career, and as the Met's Mimi (when a fireman had to extinguish the real fire in the fireplace burning Rodolfo's poems), and as Manon Lescaut, still credible as a young girl at age 60+, and still with that pure intensity. Ave Maria. If you want more, an admirer's Halka.

Thanks to Grimes2 for immense help with references, for her and others! This article will become GA some day, promised. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:42, 29 August 2021 (UTC)
 * thinking aloud: we should change to sfn references - POD? - years for recordings? - split discography, with more detail? - more reviews? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:40, 30 August 2021 (UTC)

DYK for Bio's Bahnhof
Cwmhiraeth (talk) 12:02, 30 August 2021 (UTC)

Hello!
Just passing by and saying hi! Been a long time :) --Razr Nation (talk) 23:30, 30 August 2021 (UTC)
 * That's lovely, Razr Nation! I brought - with much help from colleagues - 4 bolded names to yesterday's Main page, - can you find them? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:42, 31 August 2021 (UTC)
 * All in memory, Mary Shelley for TFA in memory of principal author Wadewitz, pictured DYK in memory of Alfred Biolek, and among the recent deaths Siegfried Matthus and Teresa Żylis-Gara. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:04, 31 August 2021 (UTC)
 * Nice, I am amazed that after all these years you are still busy improving Wikipedia. My life has changed quite a lot lately, but I still lurk around. I may even come back to edit if I gather the will.  → Call me  <b style="color: #333">Razr</b> <b style="color:#369">Nation</b> 18:10, 31 August 2021 (UTC)

DYK for Klaus Storck
 Schwede 66  12:02, 31 August 2021 (UTC) When I added Kontarsky to the hook I thought of Jerome Kohl, and hope some enjoyed that this avantgarde pianist played historically informed music also. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:06, 1 September 2021 (UTC)

Brucknerfest
Hallo,

This one is interesting but which title would you chose for the English version ? The same as the German one or "Bruckner Festival" ? LouisAlain (talk) 20:04, 1 September 2021 (UTC)
 * I'd call it Brucknerfest and give the other as translation and redirect. Compare Bachfest. I don't see refs ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:08, 1 September 2021 (UTC)

DYK for Joachim Werzlau
~  ONUnicorn (Talk&#124;Contribs) problem solving 00:02, 2 September 2021 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of In Freundschaft
Hi there, I'm pleased to inform you that I've begun reviewing the article In Freundschaft you nominated for GA-status according to the criteria. This process may take up to 7 days. Feel free to contact me with any questions or comments you might have during this period. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Aza24 -- Aza24 (talk) 06:01, 2 September 2021 (UTC)
 * Thank you, Aza, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:31, 2 September 2021 (UTC)

These Tristans
Haha! "Den furchtbaren Trank, der der Qual mich vertraut, ich selbst - ich selbst, ich hab' ihn gebraut! Aus Vaters Not und Mutter-Weh, ..." (etc etc etc). I mean to say, Gerda, these Tristans ... If the one currently in action wears himself out in the love duet, you can always just shoe-horn another one in, fresh and in time, for all that hoohah and hopping up and down with Kurwenal in the final act. Nothing could be simpler. But what a feat!! Imagine having only 5 minutes to decide if you're going to do it, and then (as an unanticipated debut) to do it entirely from memory, and in the Albert Hall, 2 nights ago. Evidently fearless... Eebahgum (talk) 08:55, 2 September 2021 (UTC)
 * That's great! On my way out, more later. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:06, 2 September 2021 (UTC)

DYK for Iulia Maria Dan
Cwmhiraeth (talk) 12:02, 2 September 2021 (UTC)

September
I know you are out to concert today but I had to tell you that I sat here and jut stared at September's picture for hours today. I get mesmerized by colors. The contrasts of the reds, oranges, yellows, greens, browns and blues. It's really very beautiful and I am so thankful you shared it with me. -- A Rose Wolf  17:37, 2 September 2021 (UTC)
 * Back from exilarating music (see above, pic a placeholder, and possibly no better, - sitting right above the horns): I imaging staring and smile ;) - so much life, right. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:19, 2 September 2021 (UTC)
 * Pic replaced, + landscape and food, - enjoy! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:36, 2 September 2021 (UTC)
 * I did enjoy those pictures. Reminds me very much of my grandparents vineyards. Every time I open a bottle of barolo I think of them. I still have a few bottles, one from by birth year. I always told myself, if I got the opportunity to know when my last days would be that I would open that bottle and have a taste or ten. (lol) Not my time yet so it still may happen. -- A Rose Wolf  12:57, 3 September 2021 (UTC)

DYK for Paul Armin Edelmann
Cwmhiraeth (talk) 00:03, 3 September 2021 (UTC)

DYK for Martin Perscheid
Cwmhiraeth (talk) 12:03, 3 September 2021 (UTC) missing a pic for him, after he made so many pics --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:46, 3 September 2021 (UTC)

Michaela Steiger
Hi You couldn't take a look at this barely sourced BLP, Michaela Steiger, could you. This is a UPE created article, but she is most notable.  scope_creep Talk  22:34, 4 September 2021 (UTC) scope_creep, I'm interested but am behind for many I'm more interested in, and today, pleasant real life, - pattience please. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:32, 5 September 2021 (UTC)

DYK for Alfred Koerppen
&mdash; Amakuru (talk) 00:03, 6 September 2021 (UTC)

A tip for your DYK nominations
Hey Gerda!

First off, I wanted to thank you for the wonderful work you're doing at DYK. Thanks to you, I can safely say that I know more about European musical theatre than anyone in my family, to the point where'd they'd like to duct tape my mouth shut at dinnertime. I've noticed that a lot of the nominations that get dragged on for months on the nom page are ones you nominated, and they usually have to do with haggling over the wording or content of your hook (goes to show—the quality of your article usually passes without a hitch, so props to you). I think the reason you're seeing a lot of resistance, and a lot of workshopping of your hooks, is that your hooks aren't always self-evidently interesting. This isn't to say that they aren't interesting, because they are—rather, I think it's that the point you're trying to make can often get lost in the text. Take the hook you suggested for Alfred Fischer Hall:


 * ... that the Alfred Fischer Hall, built as the machinery hall for a 1912 coal mine by architect Alfred Fischer, was the venue for Beethoven's Fidelio in 2021 (pictured)?

The reviewer suggested you focus on the machinery hall part, because that part was instantly clear—built as a machinery hall, and now it's a venue for opera and more? Fantastic. Immediately jumps out at the viewer. The fact that it ran during the COVID-19 pandemic? Super interesting, and bravo to the hall for pulling it off, but I don't think that was the obvious takeaway from just writing "in 2021".

The point of a DYK hook is to provide eye-catching information in a way that's stupidly easy to understand. Like, "if we splashed it on a highway billboard, the passing cars at 70mph could read and understand it without a hitch"-simple. Which is, I admit, a drag. But there's a way we want the reader to read these hooks, and the thing that we want the reader to take away from the hook should be obvious. However, in the hook above, what I thought was "oh, it used to be a machinery hall and now it's hosting Beethoven? That's so cool!" It wasn't immediately obvious to me why you wanted to hone in on the second half of the hook, but when you explained it to the reviewer, I got it. But just writing "in 2021" isn't enough to catch the reader's attention.

Now, there's a balance—If you make it too wordy, you'll lose their interest. But the way this hook is written, it directs their attention away from the "in 2021" (because it just feels like filler setting), before they get a chance to think about why the 2021 part is interesting. It is interesting that they got that up and running during a pandemic, but because of the way this hook is phrased, it's not apparent that that's what your striking. Because of that, I've seen a few of your hooks get dragged on in back-and-forths where you're adamant about your hook, because it is more interesting, but the reviewer doesn't quite get where you're at. My advice would be to try and pretend you don't know anything about European musical theatre, and read it from that perspective—ask yourself, what catches your attention first? Because realistically, whatever catches your attention first is going to be the only thing that the readers take away from the hook. And work with your reviewer—If they're showing resistance, lay out exactly what you want the reader to take away from the hook, and work with them on how to best present the information in the 200 characters.

This is really just a small tip, despite the size of the message—overall, i love your work, and it's such a joy reading the articles you and Louis Alain and Grimes2 write and nominate. Keep it up, and hopefully keep this in mind! theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (they/them) 09:19, 6 September 2021 (UTC)
 * Thank you for taking the time to explain what you see. In this specific case, I thought we don't need to explain how special a live performance of that size is this year because - classical music interest or not - everybody on Earth should be aware there's this pandemic, and it's a waste of characters to point at it again and again. What would your wording be? - More generally: normally my nominations pass without resistence, - it's just one reviewer who tries to educate me which is rather hopeless. The closer I am to a subject - I took the pic, I was enthusiastic! - the more I want to tell just that. (There are other topics - many translations by others where I just help - where I'm much more open to ALT suggestions.) Also - repeating: I want to leave some information with the millions who see the Main page, aware that only a few hundreds or thousands of them will actually click, - therefore: substance to the hook, not some attractive minor thing. I really don't care much about maybe making twice as many click, - that's still a low number compared to general Main page visitors. - Thank you for your enthusiam around DYK! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:42, 6 September 2021 (UTC)
 * You do make a lot of nominations, so it'd be expected statistically that a few of yours do get held up. I'd doubt that it's more often than others' nominations. As for the hook—I live in California, United States, and as of writing this, movie theatres are open, schools are at least partially open, lots of normal life is back—to the point where unless we really force people to think about the logistical nightmare that is, how Herculean of an effort it is to reopen at this point, it falls by the wayside. I think a lot of people take that stuff for granted, even now—people's first thought when they hear that their favourite movie theatre is open again isn't "hats off to them for achieving that"—it's "thank god, it's about time". So even though, yes, it is a drag and a bit of a waste of characters, I think we gotta make the COVID-19 part of it super plain, because otherwise people don't want to think about it. Also, I didn't catch that you took the picture yourself—that's really awesome :) theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (they/them) 09:56, 6 September 2021 (UTC)
 * I think the COVID aspect rather detracts from how cute is to play a Beethoven opera in a former machinery hall any time, but will not object if you find a good way to do it. My pleading in the nom was the struggle to mention Beethoven at all. Needless to say, it was planned for last year, big Beethoven year. So was his Ninth Symphony, planned there for last year, still not possible this year because the planned choir from three countries could not be formed under the restrictions. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:13, 6 September 2021 (UTC)

LouisAlain
Gerda, we have to do something. LouisAlain is going to give up. We have to convince him, to create his articles in his sandbox. Grimes2 (talk) 16:10, 6 September 2021 (UTC)
 * What can we do if pride is hurt? Would you tolerate being treated like someone who has to build in a sandbox? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:20, 6 September 2021 (UTC)
 * (this is about WP:AN where I see little respect for a user who donated thousands of articles including Leo Kestenberg. Who will give us all these Holocaust victims, forgotten opera singers, musicologists ... if not LouisAlain? One despairs.) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:23, 6 September 2021 (UTC)
 * I create all my articles first in the sandbox. That's the purpose of the sandbox. The articles are not ready without proper references. Grimes2 (talk) 16:31, 6 September 2021 (UTC)
 * I created all my articles in Main space. There's no need to be "ready" when created. We have different gifts, some find topics, some translate, some find references, some polish prose, some find extra facts, nobody is perfect. Articles get noticed in Main space, not in sandboxes and draft space. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 17:24, 6 September 2021 (UTC)

Hallo both of you and thanks for your efforts and comprehension. I follow your advice regarding the sandbox suggestion. After all, when I'm in front of my laptop screen it's still a blank page that I see. Whether what I'm writing is going to the Moon or elsewhere, what do I care ? My pride won't get hurt. Roland Weber is now available on said T.P.


 * 1st problem is that I still don't know how to make it known that a new piece is waiting to be transferred on the main.
 * 2nd problem, as far as I understand things, the sandbox can accept only one article at a time. Considerating my productivity, that implies I should considerably slown down my output or translate only long and very long articles such as de:Friedrich Wilhelm Graupenstein for example. Second consequence, short articles with far and few references will no longer be taken care of. Yet, many of these articles were switched into the D.Y.K department after Gerda and Grime turned them into gems. (that I don't want to leave alone, by the way).
 * 3r problem is I fear that this means a lot of work for those who want to move new pieces to the main. The talk of each new article I still can fill with the usual lines though. As well as the "Content in this edit is translated from the existing German Wikipedia article at de; see its history for attribution." and the https://edwardbetts.com/find_link/
 * I'll now have a run with de:Lindauer Psychotherapiewochen.
 * Oh well, let's see how it works. LouisAlain (talk) 18:25, 6 September 2021 (UTC)
 * If you want to follow that course, at the point when you or someone else feel it's ready, you can only copy-paste to article space, which means that the things that Grimes2 added are lost for the history. Perhaps he doesn't mind.? It would be "cleaner" if you created User:Louis Alain/Lindauer Psychotherapiewochen, and once ready that could be moved to article space, without leaving a redirect. - Thanks for the move to sandbox! Much better than leaving us alone! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 18:36, 6 September 2021 (UTC)
 * I can add a ✅ tag, when the references are done. Then you can copy and paste to mainspace with attribution to de wiki as always (without Done tag). Grimes2 (talk) 18:48, 6 September 2021 (UTC)
 * Good idea, thanks.
 * Gerda, Antoine Quentin Fouquier-Tinville that you probably know through Poulenc's Dialogues of the Carmelites, is reported to have said: "Give me one written word by anybody and I'll make a point of sending h/h to the guillotine". If the home-made Fouquier-Tinvilles see my name as author of a new article, they'll be all too happy to find some reason to send me to the gallows (figuratively of course but also not so figuratively by ruthlessly banning me). Please, note the abundance of online references regarding this blood-thirsty criminal (not one) although the French original has many.
 * I may ask JohnB123, Curbon7, Mccapra and Seacactus 13 among many others who let my contributions survive, what their position is but apparently their work has been deemed useless by who you know.
 * Another option: I translate pages from several language and stock them in my Word library until a stop-gap measure has been found.
 * Symposiarch has just thanked me for the creation of Tag des offenen Denkmals. Little does he know ! Thanks Symposiarch for your support. Just, my survival on this site is being argued here
 * Back from rehearsal, which was good! The choir is now split in three groups to keep enough distance while singing, and I promoted myself to soprano. LouisAlain, you are free to do in your user space what you want. I just saw the Dialogues where they all talk past each other, - as DYK knows ;) - Symposiarch is an old friend of mine, from the first year, and thanks a lot (me twice today, for that one and Schlosspark Biebrich, written in recognition of a birthday). I even met him once! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:22, 6 September 2021 (UTC)


 * You can create in your userspace (User:LouisAlain) as many pages as you like, for example User:LouisAlain/sandbox2 etc. just like mine User:Grimes2/sandbox2. Grimes2 (talk) 08:53, 7 September 2021 (UTC)
 * I think I said the same: you can use the prefix User:LouisAlain/ (instead of "Draft:") and then add the name of your article, example above. They will disappear once moved to Main space. That way, it remains in the history what Grimes2 and I and others contribute, while, if you blank a sandbox with whatever number and move that, the complete history from the beginning of that sandbox will be moved, which I find confusing, or you use cut and paste instead of moving, which I find unfair to Grimes2 and others. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:35, 7 September 2021 (UTC)
 * Move or Copy&Paste. Doesn't matter for me. Do what you like. Grimes2 (talk) 10:18, 7 September 2021 (UTC)
 * Thanks to both. it's done.

DYK for Omas gegen Rechts
&mdash; Amakuru (talk) 00:03, 7 September 2021 (UTC) support, and thinking of Yoninah --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:27, 7 September 2021 (UTC) <div style="margin: auto; max-width:40em; box-shadow: 0.1em 0.1em 0.5em rgba( 192, 192, 192, 0.75 ); border-radius: 1em; border: 1px solid #a7d7f9; margin-bottom: 1em; padding: 0.5em 1em 1em; color: black;" class="ui-helper-clearfix">

Did you know ...

... that the protest initiative Omas gegen Rechts (Grannies against the Right) was awarded a prize for civil courage by the Central Council of Jews in Germany?

7 September 2021

ITN recognition for Gerhard Erber
Inserting the image of protest here that wasn't taken.

Willi Brokmeier
Thanks for the work you put on that one. Hope it will make the grade. Just, I was thinking that is probably the last DYK you will get from a basis I provided. Unless I discover a German page about a musician, composer etc. with a very minimum of 12 references online which is highly unlikely. I guess they're all on this wiki. Three references only, my account would be closed by now had I had the audacity to publish it on the main. You're obviously bullet-proof, I'm not. Would Hofgarten (Düsseldorf) be worth a DYN recognition ? LouisAlain (talk) 23:06, 7 September 2021 (UTC)
 * Thank you for the note. I protest, of course. I still believe that together we can do more good things, even if the references are not obvious in the German. Brokmeier had not a single good ref before Kutsch/Riemens arrived, but I don't care. I heard him on radio when I was young, - such a bright voice, and easy-going, while some tenors sound under stress all the time ;) - Next protest: I'm not bullet-proof, I'm autopatrolled. I delivered an article about a park which has no good reference (yet), and nobody cares. Now to the Düsseldorf park: great but too much for me. I want to focus more on Good articles (below) and Featured articles, and yes, Recent deaths. Who in the Enlish Wikipedia needs all this detail about one German park? I suggest if you think you have another interesting article, just show it here, and I say, yes, I'll take time for that subject, or no. Hilde Scheppan and Leo Kestenberg were yes topics! Thank you! - Perhaps go to Project Germany for the park. Kusma and Vami IV come to my mind as not afraid of the large articles. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:16, 8 September 2021 (UTC)
 * LouisAlain, far from Brokmeier being last, I looked today into Wolfgang Anheisser and Roman Sadnik, enjoying the former but the other much less. Anheisser was too short (and still is, but nominated). The best ref was the "Further readings" entry. Sladik is way too long, repetitious, and I don't even see yet if it's worth more time, - I'll try. Just to give you an idea what I like to do. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:10, 8 September 2021 (UTC)
 * Gerda, do what you want with my output, you know better than me on all acounts. The same goes with Grimes2 of course. The keypoint now for picking up articles in their original version is for me to make sure they are enough referenced (like Konrad Paul Liessmann, Johann Konrad Jacobi, Lorenz Cantador, Helmut Hentrich and Friedrich Wilhelm Graupenstein. As you know, any article with less than 10 online references would be my immediate death sentence. All commissions welcome. LouisAlain (talk) 13:25, 8 September 2021 (UTC)
 * Fine. Interested in the latter too. - What annoys me in Sadnik is that he sang all these miniature (an innkeeper!) roles at the big houses, and big roles at small houses. Now real life, which may last all day, and then it will probably be too late for him. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:31, 8 September 2021 (UTC)
 * Room for improvement (but not by me): mention in lead that he first was a baritone, avoid "sang" for opera, drop too small roles, check opera titles - I fixed the link The Soldiers to Die Soldaten, grinning. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:08, 8 September 2021 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of In Freundschaft
The article In Freundschaft you nominated as a good article has been placed on hold. The article is close to meeting the good article criteria, but there are some minor changes or clarifications needing to be addressed. If these are fixed within 7 days, the article will pass; otherwise it may fail. See Talk:In Freundschaft for issues which need to be addressed. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Aza24 -- Aza24 (talk) 05:40, 8 September 2021 (UTC)

DYK for Tanz im August
—valereee (talk) 00:02, 9 September 2021 (UTC) Thank you, LouisAlain! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:30, 9 September 2021 (UTC)

DYK for Franz Josef Altenburg
—valereee (talk) 00:03, 9 September 2021 (UTC)

Shoot for the Stars
I did get a message from this user on a private social media account, apologizing that they never got the chance to say goodbye to you and feeling the need to thank you for everything you've done for them. They are doing great now, studying at college which they've moved to permanently from Wiki. --K. Peake 06:59, 9 September 2021 (UTC)
 * Tell him I hope the study shooting is starry and that it's not the end of reading Wikipedia, today the first featured article of a friend whom some treat as a warrior, + the pictured DYK by a friend who some think should be banned. He was despised. - I am here for the cabal of the outcast ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:30, 9 September 2021 (UTC)

DYK for Leo Kestenberg
Cwmhiraeth (talk) 00:03, 10 September 2021 (UTC)

another thanks to LouisAlain, and thinking of Yoninah --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:14, 10 September 2021 (UTC)

DYK for Joe Hill (opera)
Cwmhiraeth (talk) 00:02, 11 September 2021 (UTC) in memory of Brian, who brought the composer to FA --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:26, 11 September 2021 (UTC)

DYK for Clara Leiser
Cwmhiraeth (talk) 00:03, 11 September 2021 (UTC) thank you, Drmies! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:26, 11 September 2021 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

 * Thank you! I'll watch with interest, and supply more personal notes than the automated welcome. I noticed you on Yeats. Look above for infobox, and don't waste time on a mine field. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:26, 11 September 2021 (UTC)
 * Well done Qapisce! For staying, and for sending this to Gerda - in her case, there is no one on WP who deserves it more - in yours, I'm sure her faith in you is fully justified. She once did the same for me; her good sense in that might be questioned, :-) but never her good heart. Our Gerda is a one of a kind, and WP would not be what it is without her. Good luck to you and happy editing! Jenhawk777 (talk) 16:48, 11 September 2021 (UTC)

Nicolas Mahler
Please consider a DYK for Nicolas Mahler. Grimes2 (talk) 08:15, 12 September 2021 (UTC)
 * tomorrow --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:29, 12 September 2021 (UTC)

Questions about the Precious Prize
Hello! Please do forgive me if I'm mistaken here, but I am assuming you are in charge of the Precious prize for WP:QAI. I don't know if people can nominate others to that prize or how that would be done, but I did not see there. He's been doing a fantastic job creating FLs for pages regarding presidential elections in the US and been very helpful with my own work doing a similar thing for Spain. I'm grateful for his presence on Wikipedia and hope he can get recognized for his work. Warm greetings from Eindhoven A. C. Santacruz  &#8258;  Talk  10:07, 12 September 2021 (UTC)
 * Thank you, accepted. You can also do it yourself! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:29, 12 September 2021 (UTC)

DYK for Omas gegen Rechts
&mdash; Amakuru (talk) 00:03, 7 September 2021 (UTC) support, and thinking of Yoninah --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:27, 7 September 2021 (UTC) <div style="margin: auto; max-width:40em; box-shadow: 0.1em 0.1em 0.5em rgba( 192, 192, 192, 0.75 ); border-radius: 1em; border: 1px solid #a7d7f9; margin-bottom: 1em; padding: 0.5em 1em 1em; color: black;" class="ui-helper-clearfix">

Did you know ...

... that the protest initiative Omas gegen Rechts (Grannies against the Right) was awarded a prize for civil courage by the Central Council of Jews in Germany?

7 September 2021

Willi Brokmeier
Thanks for the work you put on that one. Hope it will make the grade. Just, I was thinking that is probably the last DYK you will get from a basis I provided. Unless I discover a German page about a musician, composer etc. with a very minimum of 12 references online which is highly unlikely. I guess they're all on this wiki. Three references only, my account would be closed by now had I had the audacity to publish it on the main. You're obviously bullet-proof, I'm not. Would Hofgarten (Düsseldorf) be worth a DYN recognition ? LouisAlain (talk) 23:06, 7 September 2021 (UTC)
 * Thank you for the note. I protest, of course. I still believe that together we can do more good things, even if the references are not obvious in the German. Brokmeier had not a single good ref before Kutsch/Riemens arrived, but I don't care. I heard him on radio when I was young, - such a bright voice, and easy-going, while some tenors sound under stress all the time ;) - Next protest: I'm not bullet-proof, I'm autopatrolled. I delivered an article about a park which has no good reference (yet), and nobody cares. Now to the Düsseldorf park: great but too much for me. I want to focus more on Good articles (below) and Featured articles, and yes, Recent deaths. Who in the Enlish Wikipedia needs all this detail about one German park? I suggest if you think you have another interesting article, just show it here, and I say, yes, I'll take time for that subject, or no. Hilde Scheppan and Leo Kestenberg were yes topics! Thank you! - Perhaps go to Project Germany for the park. Kusma and Vami IV come to my mind as not afraid of the large articles. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:16, 8 September 2021 (UTC)
 * LouisAlain, far from Brokmeier being last, I looked today into Wolfgang Anheisser and Roman Sadnik, enjoying the former but the other much less. Anheisser was too short (and still is, but nominated). The best ref was the "Further readings" entry. Sladik is way too long, repetitious, and I don't even see yet if it's worth more time, - I'll try. Just to give you an idea what I like to do. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:10, 8 September 2021 (UTC)
 * Gerda, do what you want with my output, you know better than me on all acounts. The same goes with Grimes2 of course. The keypoint now for picking up articles in their original version is for me to make sure they are enough referenced (like Konrad Paul Liessmann, Johann Konrad Jacobi, Lorenz Cantador, Helmut Hentrich and Friedrich Wilhelm Graupenstein. As you know, any article with less than 10 online references would be my immediate death sentence. All commissions welcome. LouisAlain (talk) 13:25, 8 September 2021 (UTC)
 * Fine. Interested in the latter too. - What annoys me in Sadnik is that he sang all these miniature (an innkeeper!) roles at the big houses, and big roles at small houses. Now real life, which may last all day, and then it will probably be too late for him. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:31, 8 September 2021 (UTC)
 * Room for improvement (but not by me): mention in lead that he first was a baritone, avoid "sang" for opera, drop too small roles, check opera titles - I fixed the link The Soldiers to Die Soldaten, grinning. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:08, 8 September 2021 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of In Freundschaft
The article In Freundschaft you nominated as a good article has been placed on hold. The article is close to meeting the good article criteria, but there are some minor changes or clarifications needing to be addressed. If these are fixed within 7 days, the article will pass; otherwise it may fail. See Talk:In Freundschaft for issues which need to be addressed. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Aza24 -- Aza24 (talk) 05:40, 8 September 2021 (UTC)

Shoot for the Stars
I did get a message from this user on a private social media account, apologizing that they never got the chance to say goodbye to you and feeling the need to thank you for everything you've done for them. They are doing great now, studying at college which they've moved to permanently from Wiki. --K. Peake 06:59, 9 September 2021 (UTC)
 * Tell him I hope the study shooting is starry and that it's not the end of reading Wikipedia, today the first featured article of a friend whom some treat as a warrior, + the pictured DYK by a friend who some think should be banned. He was despised. - I am here for the cabal of the outcast ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:30, 9 September 2021 (UTC)

DYK for Leo Kestenberg
Cwmhiraeth (talk) 00:03, 10 September 2021 (UTC)

another thanks to LouisAlain, and thinking of Yoninah --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:14, 10 September 2021 (UTC)

DYK for Joe Hill (opera)
Cwmhiraeth (talk) 00:02, 11 September 2021 (UTC) in memory of Brian, who brought the composer to FA --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:26, 11 September 2021 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

 * Thank you! I'll watch with interest, and supply more personal notes than the automated welcome. I noticed you on Yeats. Look above for infobox, and don't waste time on a mine field. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:26, 11 September 2021 (UTC)
 * Well done Qapisce! For staying, and for sending this to Gerda - in her case, there is no one on WP who deserves it more - in yours, I'm sure her faith in you is fully justified. She once did the same for me; her good sense in that might be questioned, :-) but never her good heart. Our Gerda is a one of a kind, and WP would not be what it is without her. Good luck to you and happy editing! Jenhawk777 (talk) 16:48, 11 September 2021 (UTC)

Questions about the Precious Prize
Hello! Please do forgive me if I'm mistaken here, but I am assuming you are in charge of the Precious prize for WP:QAI. I don't know if people can nominate others to that prize or how that would be done, but I did not see there. He's been doing a fantastic job creating FLs for pages regarding presidential elections in the US and been very helpful with my own work doing a similar thing for Spain. I'm grateful for his presence on Wikipedia and hope he can get recognized for his work. Warm greetings from Eindhoven A. C. Santacruz  &#8258;  Talk  10:07, 12 September 2021 (UTC)
 * Thank you, accepted. You can also do it yourself! If you want to go that way, it would be nice if you became a project member. Reward: monthly flowers. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:33, 12 September 2021 (UTC)
 * ... and done --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:57, 13 September 2021 (UTC)

Tag des offenen Denkmals
I visited the Luftbrückendenkmal at Frankfurt Airport. What have you seen. Grimes2 (talk) 20:11, 12 September 2021 (UTC)
 * Villa Justitia in Wiesbaden (with guided tour by owner) and the small Protestant Church in Hillesheim (with organ concert on the Stumm organ builders, on organ day), and once there biking to the "Heidenkirchen" in Alsheim (File:Heidenturmkirche Alsheim 06.JPG) and Dittelsheim (de:Dittelsheim-Heßloch). - DYK that I once performed in choir in Beethoven's Ninth on that day? See Carsten Koch's DYK. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 05:49, 13 September 2021 (UTC)
 * According to Wikidedia the Stumm organ is in Hillesheim not in Hillesheim (Rheinhessen)? Grimes2 (talk) 08:42, 13 September 2021 (UTC)
 * The organ builders were very productive which could be an explanation. Certainly yesterday's very resolute woman playing and explaining said Stumm about "hers". Hillesheim in the Eifel could also have one, but it could also be a confusion. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:49, 13 September 2021 (UTC)
 * Seems a confusion: this source given for the Hillesheim organ says Ev. Kirche and shows the one I heard, while Hillesheim has a Catholic church St. Martin with the picture of a completely different organ which has no "Stumm" in the description. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:06, 13 September 2021 (UTC)
 * Or not? There are other sources, for St. Martin. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:10, 13 September 2021 (UTC)
 * RhH 1750 --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:14, 13 September 2021 (UTC)
 * church and organ pictured --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:48, 14 September 2021 (UTC)

Redirect
Hello Gerda! Regarding this: I wonder, did you read this? Many editors, including me, do not find this to be an appropriate 'essay'. The rough consensus among editors there (again, including me) was to leave it be, but in my view, creating a redirect to it is not that. I would find it serious concerning if people where to start pointing to it in discussions, for a number of very different reasons (I'll only expand on that if you ask me to), so I would like to ask you to consider deleting it again. Thanks! ☿ Apaugasma  ( talk  ☉) 11:43, 13 September 2021 (UTC)
 * I saw the suggestion on the talk, and all I thought was "Why not" WP:REALCIVIL. I won't do a thing. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:56, 13 September 2021 (UTC)
 * See my concern is just that if you don't put a Db-author on it, I can only still take it to RfD, where it will again consume the time and energy of a lot of editors. But actually, almost all of us (including me!) prefer to let it rest, both in the first and in the last place out of respect for a retiring editor. The easier way would be if you would either read that ANI thread, or simply trust me when I say that multiple editors have expressed valid concerns about it. It's just one edit for you. However, if you disagree, I won't bother you with this anymore. Respectfully, ☿ Apaugasma  ( talk  ☉) 13:23, 13 September 2021 (UTC)
 * Can't you request a speedy deletion citing this conversation? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:31, 13 September 2021 (UTC)
 * Do you mean our conversation here, or the ANI thread? Either way, I don't think so: it would be a matter for community discussion whether this is an appropriate redirect or not. But community discussion on this topic is precisely what the community has said (in the ANI thread) it doesn't want at this time. I too just don't want that. Let me say this:


 * I think that the author of the essay has said some things in anger that they wouldn't have said if they weren't retiring, and we shouldn't pull that out of context.
 * The essay contains not only broad attacks on fellow editors, but also a specific outing threat to an unidentified admin.
 * In my view, the essay's redefining of civility as a lack of bad faith POV-pushing behavior completely misses the mark on what civility on WP is and why we need it. What 'real civility' comes down to is laid out well in Civility: Stated simply, editors should always treat each other with consideration and respect. They should focus on improving the encyclopedia while maintaining a pleasant editing environment by behaving politely, calmly and reasonably, even during heated debates. The essay directly contravenes that, and I believe that we should not have a project space redirect to an essay that directly contravenes one of our five pillars.
 * Those are my reasons, but for the time being, I will let you decide if you think them convincing enough to add the Db-author tag or not. Thanks for considering this, ☿ Apaugasma  ( talk  ☉) 15:01, 13 September 2021 (UTC)
 * You thought about that for long, while I acted spontaneously, yes, pointy edit. You can say so, no? For me to say I believe it should be deleted seems wrong. You have your reasoning, I have mine. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 18:32, 13 September 2021 (UTC)
 * I moved it to my user space where I accumulate a collection of memories of some outcast. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 18:37, 13 September 2021 (UTC)
 * ... which is a heavy load --Gerda Arendt (talk) 05:48, 14 September 2021 (UTC)

DYK for Peter Fleischmann
Cwmhiraeth (talk) 00:02, 14 September 2021 (UTC)

DYK for Christoph Strehl
Cwmhiraeth (talk) 00:03, 14 September 2021 (UTC) tell me if that is a better kind of hook than naming a role he portrayed? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 05:48, 14 September 2021 (UTC)

A gift for you!
Hi there! As a thank you for being an excellent sport at DYK, and for always having interesting nominations, i got you something! I notice that often times your nominations are approved a bit late because you're behind on QPQs—so if you find yourself "lost and alone, or... sinking like a stone", feel free to use one of these three emergency QPQs (i do understand if you don't want them, of course) ! Remember to use them sparingly, and happy nominating! theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (they/them) 21:47, 14 September 2021 (UTC)
 * That's a gracious gift, which I'll use in cases of emergency, such as the next attempt to get something on the Main page in three days ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:53, 14 September 2021 (UTC)
 * very exciting! :) i marked the talk pages on all three noms, saying that they're donated theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (they/them) 22:29, 14 September 2021 (UTC)

DYK for Klassische Philharmonie Bonn
Cwmhiraeth (talk) 00:02, 15 September 2021 (UTC) I saw the conductor in action with the student orchestra but not at the Kurhaus in Wiesbaden, one of the many concert halls where they played their series. For a classical Requiem, I picked Mozart, sung there in the Marktkirche, in St. Bonifatius and in the Lutherkirche. Kurhaus and Lutherkirche were RMF locations in 2021. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:53, 15 September 2021 (UTC)

Can you help with reviewing?
Hi Gerda, you seem to be friendly with. As I write this, there are 57 articles by him in the Special:NewPagesFeed. That's almost twice as much as the next top contributor. There aren't very many reviewers who can read German, and I must say I find reviewing his articles challenging, because of the different referencing standards in English and German Wikipedia and the issues under discussion at AN. Can you help? Thanks, Vexations (talk) 19:48, 15 September 2021 (UTC)
 * I do what I can, but really prefer to focus on a few. Referencing in German is different, sigh. The AN discussion is mentioned further up and in the archive. Not an outburst of kindness. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:54, 15 September 2021 (UTC)
 * Thanks Gerda, I appreciate the assistance. Vexations (talk) 21:10, 15 September 2021 (UTC)

DYK for Alfred Fischer Hall
Cwmhiraeth (talk) 00:02, 16 September 2021 (UTC) ... and I was there --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:53, 16 September 2021 (UTC)

Samuel Jacobs
Hi User:Gerda Arendt how are you, can you take a look at this article Draft:Samuel Jacobs (journalist) If it's encyclopedic, can you move the draft, to the article's main space? Thank you --Hasan AB123 (talk) 13:26, 16 September 2021 (UTC)
 * Welcome to Wikipedia, Hasan AB123. Please sign your posts. I have no special competence for U.S. professors, but hope someone watching this page has it. Drmies? Why did you come to me, just curious? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:00, 16 September 2021 (UTC)
 * Well I'd say it needs serious copyediting and it needs secondary sources that discuss the subject, not just links to his work. This is the only secondary source, and it's two sentences, and I do not believe that that's enough. Drmies (talk) 15:33, 16 September 2021 (UTC)
 * Hello how are you Drmies we have added some news Article about this person can you check the article again
 * Thank you Hasan AB123 (talk)
 * I sure hope you will be able to say more than what you have now, which is essentially a list of jobs he had. Drmies (talk) 17:34, 16 September 2021 (UTC)
 * I'm sure I am seeing what is seeing. It currently reads more like a resumé than anything else. I would expect to see it worded like this at some social networking site. Surely there is something more biographical out there? I'll take a look and see if I can find anything. -- A Rose  Wolf  20:05, 16 September 2021 (UTC)

Commission
Hallo Gerda,

It seems you suggested one or two commissions to me, can't really remember. As you know, my new policy is to translate only articles with a minimum of five references (and more are always welcome). I've seen the hell of a job you and Grimes2 put into Anton Josef Reiss in a desperate mission to rescue the page from the deep freezer and I don't want to have both of you dragged again in this sort of time and energy consuming task at the expense of your own respective agendas.

Looking for the links to Anton Josef Reiss, I've just noticed the discussion is still going on at the Ad. Board (without me being informed of course)regarding my "fake" references and the whole enchilada. And I thought things had cooled down for some days. What a fool of me ! After I've been called a liar, a cheater, a fraudster, a trickster, an incompetent, a troll etc. my good friends Fram, Kusma and their ilk are salivating in advance of the day when they will have succeeded in getting me out after five years on unremitting attacks.

Ô the fools ! Like I needed their permission to carry on contributing to the project. When they'll see narcissistic perversion, they won't have to scratch their heads too long to know who the ugly perpetrator is. I've packed my bag and am ready to leave since I've reached my goal of creating over 6,000 articles. They can delete it as soon as the article will appear on the main, what do I care ? Roland Freisler is still alive and kicking, at least his ghost.

Even cool and gentleman like John B123 has his fill and decided to no longer rewiew new articles, so badly he has been mistreated by wankers and other members of the posse. Not that I want to let you alone Gerda, but as you see the dice was cast from the beginning. We'll Meet Again LouisAlain (talk) 21:31, 16 September 2021 (UTC)


 * I just want to go to bed, and now this to keep me awake. Why don't you just do your translation job, and ignore others? I told Vami IV some things about standing and singing when "despised and rejected". - Language is difficult, you misunderstand me completely (sorry): I don't put effort in Anton Josef Reiss for any other reason than improving what we know about him. Thank you for bringing him to our attention, and all the others!! - Too tired to type more: look at my edit-notice, or - if you have a bit more time - at teh rulez. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:03, 16 September 2021 (UTC)
 * I've known for a long time you don't better my translations for the sake of my persona... LouisAlain (talk) 00:01, 17 September 2021 (UTC)
 * Of course not. - You came with a ouch and smile. You translated all Bach cantatas into French. I give you flowers. - For your sake I give you a commission: stop talking about users I found Precious, such as (in alphabetical order) Fram, John B123, Kusma, LouisAlain. - On 17 September, I gave Precious to a dear friend, who - the same year - left us in intentional self-destruction. I miss him. Please don't do the same to me, dear friend. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:41, 17 September 2021 (UTC)

DYK for Hans Drewanz
Cwmhiraeth (talk) 00:02, 17 September 2021 (UTC)

DYK for Protestant Church, Borgholzhausen
&mdash; Amakuru (talk) 00:02, 18 September 2021 (UTC) The church was also a site of the family reunion, after Fidelio: (by chance:) a baptism service, (by chance:) with the first singing of the congregation (by chance:) of the song that was given to me most, including by myself, which was also sung at my parents' wedding anniversary at the same location, again six stanzas (but not all the same). --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:29, 18 September 2021 (UTC)

ps: not by chance, I wrote the article on the anniversary day. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:47, 18 September 2021 (UTC)

DYK for Hilde Scheppan
&mdash; Amakuru (talk) 12:02, 18 September 2021 (UTC)

DYK for Elvira Bierbach
&mdash; Amakuru (talk) 00:03, 19 September 2021 (UTC)

Ways to improve Elvira Bierbach
Hello, Gerda Arendt,

Thank you for creating Elvira Bierbach.

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Slatersteven (talk) 16:26, 19 September 2021 (UTC)
 * Slatersteven, kindly tell me what you think is not neutral? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:35, 19 September 2021 (UTC)


 * Slatersteven, I keep waiting, and move you comment to context now. Yesterday, I translated the article to German where I could connect it to articles better because she is an author of references. Please check the references I added. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:40, 20 September 2021 (UTC)
 * YOu are aware some of us sleep?
 * What is not neutral, The article seems to b loaded with "this is how great she is" types of language going on about how she has edited books and lectured. Hell, you removed the "academic tag" when the article is very much about her running a school and publishing textbooks, surely that makes her an academic? It also overly relies on primary sources for statements of fact.Slatersteven (talk) 10:11, 20 September 2021 (UTC)
 * Sorry about the missed sleep. I asked before I slept, and again after I slept. Are you aware that English is not my first language? For me, an academic is someone who teaches at a university (after he studied at one). Wrong? Her school is not on university level, but I lack the terminology for these things (trade school? in German Berufsfachschule, Schule des Gesundheitswesens), and help - including yours - is welcome. I wrote hundreds of biographies - in other fields, singers, composers, architects ... - and try hard to avoid this "how great someone is", so was disappointed. - That's a reply to your answer. I still miss a reply to my question: what do you think is not neutral? I meant precisely which statement(s) in the article. That she wrote books? They are in authority control. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:30, 20 September 2021 (UTC)
 * I did not miss any sleep I am telling you why I did not respond straight away.


 * As to academic https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/academic. What is not neutral is its general tone (as I said). It gives too much weight to what she (or her organizations) claim. As well s loaded with puffery language (the second, one of the few, etc).Slatersteven (talk) 11:20, 20 September 2021 (UTC)
 * "missed sleep" was sloppy for "that I missed that you have to sleep". - Academic: the entry has a focus on theory and thinking, but this kind of profession needs also therapeutic (practical) skills, - I still don't believe that "academic" is a good description. - Language: how is "the second" not factual, for example? - I now have a task RL, and then two biographies which come first, a Recent death and a last-day-DYK-nomination (plans for a day always on my user page, if you want to know details), so patience please, - I didn't write yesterday's planned article (because I hate tags on articles, very generally so. Last case was Hochschule für Musik Mainz - ). --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:43, 20 September 2021 (UTC)
 * It may be time to take this to the articles talk page and let others join in.Slatersteven (talk) 13:15, 20 September 2021 (UTC)
 * I did that but don't want my language deficiencies show there too much, nor that I don't get to the things I want to do, nor my hate for article tags which discredit our information in the eyes of the readers. - RL task accomplished, but the composer bio is complex, and the other I haven't even looked at. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:20, 20 September 2021 (UTC)
 * Update: I nominated Sylvano Bussotti for RD, and decided not to nominate for DYK, so found time for an image update. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:51, 20 September 2021 (UTC)
 * Thank you, Netherzone and 4meter4, - see talk. I know her well enough to have taken the pic, but I really tried to be neutral. Second school within about 20, and those out of about 500, - I think it's neutral to call that a distinction. I didn't include the information that she toured, singing Zweite Stimme, with the Bielefelder Kinderchor ;) - as I played Zweite Stimme on the recorder in St. Peter, Syburg, when I was little. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:19, 21 September 2021 (UTC)

DYK for Nun saget Dank und lobt den Herren
Cwmhiraeth (talk) 12:02, 19 September 2021 (UTC)

Melodien aus dem Evangelischen Gesangbuch
I just noticed this: see commons:Category:Melodies from "Evangelisches Gesangbuch" (organ recordings)... These could probably be used in a lot of articles (anything recorded by someone even half-competent is far better than MIDI). The commons category isn't sorted; but a search for the title should do just fine. Cheers, RandomCanadian (talk / contribs) 01:49, 21 September 2021 (UTC)
 * Thank you! I knew only the little files playing the melody used in some infoboxes (see Wie schön leuchtet der Morgenstern, and promise to self to make that a GA). I still think that for those who rather look than listen, and for those with a bad memory, a visual score or at least melody is good in addition. Thank you for doing those! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:19, 21 September 2021 (UTC)

DYK for Concerto for Two Cellos, RV 531
Vanamonde (Talk) 00:02, 22 September 2021 (UTC) heard at the Rheingau Musik Festival, in a collaboration with the Kronberg Academy --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:07, 22 September 2021 (UTC)

DYK for Willi Brokmeier
Cwmhiraeth (talk) 12:02, 22 September 2021 (UTC)

I apologize
I probably made things worse by saying anything about the infobox situation. I just wanted to make sure everything stayed calm and civil. I didn't like how you were being dumped on there and how the situation was being blown way out of proportion. I probably shouldn't have gotten involved and I admit that. But since I couldn't keep myself from responding I should have done exactly what Ched did. Nothing more and nothing less. -- A Rose Wolf  12:39, 22 September 2021 (UTC)
 * Coming in from a nice outing: please don't blame yourself too much. I didn't look there yet. It's all Kafka, not comprehensible with normal logic. The last I saw was that T. said something friendly to you, - your chance. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:00, 22 September 2021 (UTC)

Proseminar in Homophile Studies
Thanks for the review here. I'm not sure I understand what you mean by the sfn suggestion - can you explain to me another way? I believe I am using sfn the way In Freundschaft uses it, hovering over or clicking the short cites gives you the full one. Urve (talk) 13:21, 23 September 2021 (UTC)
 * Yes, it does, - I wonder what I saw before. Fine! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:39, 23 September 2021 (UTC)

Raquel Camarinha
Thanks for noticing that one. In the meantime, the feast goes on on the A.B. I received a notice telling me I was again the object of a query over there under the "Arbitrary break" paragraph. So, out of politess (you know my old stuff) I went there and replied with the utmost courtesy like you told me to do. It seems there's a huge lost in translation problem here, I can't believe intelligent people would waste so much time and energy on such a petty issue just for the sake of my personna. LouisAlain (talk) 18:45, 23 September 2021 (UTC)
 * I hate these noticeboards, unproductive. - Sorry about an edit in between, - blame my memory, by the time I reached the last para I had forgotten that there was an "in use" tag on top. - Interesting read that Lisbon opera, - this is what I found searching for which composer, because there are at least two operas of that name. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:05, 23 September 2021 (UTC)
 * While searching for refs. I dodged that one, fear of engaging in another batch of problems...
 * No worries, tomorrow ... --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:44, 23 September 2021 (UTC)

Thank you
for all your gems. 🙏 Piotr Jr. (talk) 06:21, 24 September 2021 (UTC)

Max Creutz‎
The link to Vienna wasn't put by me but by someone who did so despite the  in use  template in place. Goes to show the importance of respecting these recommandations. But someone recently reverted one of my edits because a "delinked" country was a little country so that it should be linked to... LouisAlain (talk) 21:50, 24 September 2021 (UTC)
 * I don't care who linked Vienna, tough enough to read articles ;) - On Arvo Pärt, there was a loooong discussion if Estonia should be linked. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:58, 24 September 2021 (UTC)
 * Did you see the perennial gang? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:01, 24 September 2021 (UTC)

Block of LouisAlain

 * see also: Archive 7 · March 2021 · last · - reminder to self

Now it happened. LouisAlain has been blocked. This is the most drastic punishment, I can imagine. I will miss him. Grimes2 (talk) 08:59, 25 September 2021 (UTC)
 * I said so on his talk, otherwise speechless. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:01, 25 September 2021 (UTC)
 * As they say, indefinite is not infinite. I'd be happy to see better solutions (please post suggestions in the WP:AN thread), but they might require some actual changes from LouisAlain. —Kusma (talk) 10:07, 25 September 2021 (UTC)
 * LouisAlain: "Of course I didn't lie about the translating machine. I affirm I never use Google translate but DeepL Translator, a German device". Grimes2 (talk) 10:28, 25 September 2021 (UTC)
 * Kusma, I spoke at the AN thread which I watched with rising despair. I asked for help there - also meaning understanding - about the time when he was blocked, - at least I didn't know it yet. I made many more entries than the usual two I permit myself in a thread. Indef means the one who was told he is not wanted as he is has to act, - I don't expect LouisAlain to even want to return to a project that accepts the free gift of donating information (backed by valid articles in a different Wikipedia with a different referencing style, mostly about historic persons) every waking hour with thanks, but only under conditions. As explained yesterday (see below), it took me two years to weaken enough to give up my pride and appeal. Would we even be alive in two years? What troubles me also is that LouisAlain alluded to health problems past and present more than once. - I remember the arbcase of Joefromrandb, when the arbs listened to my suggestion to ban him - also likely to be too proud to ever appeal - for a fixed time, in his case 6 months. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:31, 26 September 2021 (UTC)
 * Indeed, the message it that what LouisAlain currently does is not wanted. There is a very different view of what you describe as free gift of donating information, namely that he isn't actually donating any information at all. Surroundings of Cologne Cathedral is a machine translation of the German article, so there is zero new information (DeepL isn't so much better than what you get from using Google Chrome to look at an automatic translation of the dewiki article). What I see from LouisAlain is always machine translation and linking, never any new content. When he is challenged on any of his contributions, I have never seen him defend any content (which we usually do by working from the sources). WP:V is a core policy, and one that does not go away just because articles have been copied over from a different language Wikipedia. WP:BLP is another of those...
 * You (and Grimes2) have turned a few hundred of LouisAlain's 6000 contributions into articles that actually comply with our policies. Thank you for that. As you must be aware from your work in turning LouisAlain's translations into DYK-worthy articles (not a very high standard), this takes quite a lot of work for each of them, and LouisAlain never helps with that. There are still several thousands of articles that you have not fixed to the standard of the English Wikipedia. Many of these articles (although they look OK if you don't look closely) need to completely rewritten because of machine translation issues, and many need to find new references to comply with WP:V. I don't think that LouisAlain should add another 1000 translations per year, 800 of which are not cleaned up to standard (and won't be for at least 10 years given our cleanup backlogs). His promises of translating only articles with many footnotes isn't actually all that helpful: what we need to know is whether these footnotes actually are citations from WP:RS. Sure, often the sources given are offline or unavailable, but then a translating article creator has other options, for example to check whether other sources in the article support this content, remove the unverifiable parts, or ask the original author for more information. I don't see LouisAlain doing any of that work.
 * If LouisAlain wishes to continue mechanically machine translating large amounts of articles and not taking any responsibility for their content, I'm happy for him to do so in his user space (or perhaps draft space), where you could work on the articles and move them to mainspace when they are ready, but I don't think he should be allowed to create articles in mainspace directly.
 * If there is a fixed time block that will lead to LouisAlain creating better articles afterwards, I'm happy to consider it, but I don't see a reason to believe it would change anything. With a suitable agreement / creation ban / namespace restriction in place, I'm happy to unblock immediately. —Kusma (talk) 10:26, 26 September 2021 (UTC)
 * I said (top of this talk) that I need a break and you don't give me one. I miss a friend, and you tell me he did wrong, and you are right, and I'm sad. Leo Kestenberg: I was so happy to get to know that person, and I believe that to have the first version was better for Wikipedia than not to have it. (The references are in the five books that the German Wikipedia titles "Literatur" = the books the article is based on.) Kindly leave me alone here. Article for today: Hilf, Herr meines Lebens, dass ich nicht vergebens hier auf Erden bin. (But I didn't even write the one yet that was planned for last Sunday.) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:56, 26 September 2021 (UTC)
 * "... that I'm not on earth in vain" - I managed to write that last night. It has two authors with German articles. Anybody to take up the task of creating those? In the AN thread, I think I spoke up in vain, I read my editnotice loud to myself. And the sentence I had there before: "Every editor is a human being ...', thanks to Geometry guy 2012. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:52, 27 September 2021 (UTC)
 * I updated my images. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:35, 27 September 2021 (UTC)
 * Yes, that's why I'd not recommend an appeal right now. Once upon a time, I thought I could impress arbitrators by a list of nice infoboxes. Doesn't work, I can tell you, nor did a list of nice articles impress admins. They want an admittance of guilt, repentance, and promises to fair better in the future saying precisely how. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:30, 25 September 2021 (UTC)
 * I also use Deepl, btw. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:31, 25 September 2021 (UTC)
 * I'm so sorry Gerda. I feel the pain in your words for a friend lost. Indefinite might as well be a site ban in this instance. What bothers me more than anything is the lack of empathy for fellow editors. Sometimes it's better to say little to nothing and allow others to grieve in their own way. I see it so often after an ANI or arbcom case. I'm not saying it's always intentional but it's a lot like Grave dancing and it's unecessary to say anything. As was stated above, Louis is gone. Why would he or should he want to come back. Indefinite might as as well be infinite whatever the justification and however anyone else feels about it. No further suggestions matter. Humanity is the loser here no matter what side you fall on in debate. Again, I'm sorry Gerda. My thoughts run wild often enough. -- A Rose Wolf  04:24, 28 September 2021 (UTC)

DYK for Jean-Paul Jeannotte
&mdash; Amakuru (talk) 00:02, 25 September 2021 (UTC)

DYK for Schlosspark Biebrich
— Maile (talk) 00:02, 26 September 2021 (UTC) One of my places --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:35, 27 September 2021 (UTC)

DYK for Tag des offenen Denkmals
— Maile (talk) 12:03, 26 September 2021 (UTC) Thank you, LouisAlain. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:35, 27 September 2021 (UTC)

DYK for Monika Salzer
— Maile (talk) 00:02, 27 September 2021 (UTC) I had to translate that one myself because LouisAlain had reservations. Omas gegen Rechts --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:52, 27 September 2021 (UTC)

Many red links to fill, with articles in German. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:35, 27 September 2021 (UTC)

DYK for Jan Hecker
— Maile (talk) 00:03, 28 September 2021 (UTC)

Edit notice
"can someone explain why preview shows something differently from how it comes out?"
 * You made a edit notice: User talk:Gerda Arendt/Editnotice
 * What is a edit notice: Editnotice

Grimes2 (talk) 08:36, 28 September 2021 (UTC)
 * An answer but not to my (edit summary) question. I saw this talk in preview, and the blue frame for the image of Jan Hecker surrounded the image. When I saved it the image went below the bottom blue line, which differs from the preview. I inserted an extra empty line to make it work, but would prefer to not be mislead in preview. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:48, 28 September 2021 (UTC)

Statement
I'm looking at creating a statement in which I make it known that, in the event of my untimely death or sudden and prolonged disappearance, I want you to adjust, archive and administer my user page and talk page in accordance to what I want it to be before it is locked and/or archived. I'll get you details soon. I have also informed my family on how they may contact you here, provide the necessary evidence of whom they are and the evidence needed of my death. Of course no such thing is given if I were to disappear but if that happens I would expect the assumption that the worst situation has occurred and there was no one to forward such information to you. In the event of my death I want you to make sure that one of those deceased tags is not on my page. A simple statement is all that required on my talk page. If such a thing happens I have returned to the Earth but my Song will live on. My contributions here are what they will be. Odd as this may sound I have seen too many deaths among editors lately and so its been on my mind for months. -- A Rose Wolf  21:09, 28 September 2021 (UTC)
 * I understand, and believe this is the statement. I'd put something commented out in the position where that template would go. For JGHowes, it diminishes the impression planned for his stars. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:15, 28 September 2021 (UTC)
 * I trust you and what you think would be best for that. Thank you for accepting that responsibility. Hopefully it is never needed but I felt I was close months ago. -- A Rose Wolf  21:22, 28 September 2021 (UTC)
 * I managed for SBHB, remembered yesterday. A song of songs. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:26, 28 September 2021 (UTC)
 * It looks nice. We've lost so many. :'( -- A Rose Wolf  13:52, 29 September 2021 (UTC)

Eberhard Jüngel died
Eberhard Jüngel died. Could you please take a look on the article? Grimes2 (talk) 09:42, 29 September 2021 (UTC)
 * I will, thank you for pointing at it. - I read the complete post by Geometry guy quoted above (I'm in the middle of a review), and couldn't help thinking that it would fit in the same location. Perhaps I'll take courage enough to put it there. The way reasonable questions by Martin were dismissed, and then part of the thread closed, is just too much to take. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:07, 29 September 2021 (UTC)
 * I have a lot of respect for most of the people that commented on this case but I genuinely feel some are just so burned out that all they can do is go on the attack immediately. They seem to forget how they felt when their behavior and actions were under the community microscope. No self-respectable person likes being told that their work is trash and worthless. This is why I say civility on Wikipedia is in the death throws. It's why I decided myself to take time away from editing in main space to put effort in user space to point out incivility in all of its forms and to try and shift the pendulum back the other way. Sowing of seeds if you will. That whole thread is full of incivility from every angle. Civility is not mere words but is tone and conduct and attitude, its the approach we take when we speak of someone else. The approach by so many that I hold in high esteem in that thread was vicious incivility. It was targeted for one single purpose, discrediting another human being, not just their work but them, their person, every aspect of them. It was to tear this human being to shreds in the hope they would do exactly what they have done which is quit. They may never admit it but they know its true. No one has to assume good or bad faith in this instance. Its written in color in the words of that thread and the actions of some whose intentions were so plainly visible. I'm not defending Louis. I am defending one of the pillars of our community and one of the most essential building blocks of this encyclopedia. I read where someone said of editors on Wikipedia recently that we can not expect fairness and that no one should have any relative expectation of rights. They aren't entirely correct in that. We should and do have expectations. The Foundation implemented them when they formed the pillars of this community. We do and should have an expectation of civility. No where does it say that because I feel I have been wronged by another I have the right to destroy that person and their works. Too many on that thread made the actions of Louis to be personal and they attacked his person through his edited content and their disapproval of it under the guise of following policy. -- A Rose Wolf  14:17, 29 September 2021 (UTC)
 * Fresh air was good. I found, and placed a line from it in my edit summary where it was stable until 2018 (that line bolded by me):
 * "In my view, a thread like this should be viewed as an opportunity to reach mutual understanding: not agreement, perhaps, but at least an understanding of what the disagreements are actually about. This thread will have no consequences beyond that anyway: it will be archived automatically in a few days, recalled by those who read it, and possibly diffed for a few choice comments. With that proviso, I have a few remarks.
 * This page is not ANI, so no immediate administrator intervention is being requested; however, the topic is of interest to administrators, not least because there is a block in place that at some point in the future may require reconsideration. There are plenty of other reasons for discussing this case, including wider ramifications.
 * There are many reasonable editors here, with reasonable positions. Reasonable opposing positions are not addressed by referring to extreme aspects of opposing positions (for example, no reasonable position involves "vitriol": such concerns should be taken to the user talk page of the editor in question).
 * ... (this comment related only to the 2012 case)
 * Every editor is a human being, and we need to consider regularly whether our view/approach to an issue brings out the best of humanity or not.
 * All editors should be encouraged to follow best practice (e.g. with regard to close paraphrasing), not merely typical practice.
 * The idea to study typical practice with regard to paraphrasing is flawed, assuming an objectivity that such a study would almost certainly be unable to achieve. I have made related comments on Moonriddengirl's talk page.
 * That's all. I thank all editors in advance for reading and thinking about the many issues this discussion raises. Geometry guy 22:32, 28 February 2012 (UTC)"
 * I'll return it to the place, because it seems forgotten, and looks appropriate to the present case almost word by word. Back then, the editor it was about was unblocked 2 months later, and went on to write FA Franz Kafka, inviting me to join. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:49, 29 September 2021 (UTC)
 * Did someone mention Joseph K? Ah yes, Frau Grubach, Wikipedia surely loves Der Process, doesn't it. Martinevans123 (talk) 16:18, 29 September 2021 (UTC) (Note: I have not used an un-named machine translation device)
 * Sure. LouisAlain, versed in literature, look for "Josep K." on AN. I don't think it won him friends. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:29, 29 September 2021 (UTC)
 * That is one of the issues I have observed by sitting back and mostly reading for hours at a time, we have lost a capacity to truly come to an understanding. Maybe its the political climate of society at this point in time, idk. I used to think maybe it was just cultural differences but that doesn't hold sway any longer. My fears are that it has so permeated the human existence that the lack of understanding has become part of our nature. I can understand your position while disagreeing with it. Whenever I take that approach it changes my whole demeanor in discussions. -- A Rose Wolf  16:44, 29 September 2021 (UTC)
 * Yes. It seems at AN/I it's often a case of "I can understand your position, and I understand it to be totally worthless, so we'll just ignore it." Never more apparent than with LouisAlain. Martinevans123 (talk) 20:48, 29 September 2021 (UTC)

Armstrong
I believe you are somewhat missing the point of Wikipedia: Not every name is to be described in the article, i.e., identifying where the Bolshoi is located. My understanding is that one is to click onto Bolshoi to discover more about it. The same with names of operas, etc. It becomes pedantic to have the composer's name before every opera, etc! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Brian Joseph Morgan (talk • contribs) 12:24, 29 September 2021 (UTC)
 * Brian, I think you missed what project opera usually does, because while you and I know what Lulu and Erwartung mean, we have readers (from all over the world, from other languages) for whom the composer adds recognition. Compare Jessye Norman: when opera has an article, no link to the composer, but mentioning of last name if famous, full name if not. Full name and link for the composer when opera has no link. The unlinked composers also make for a nice interruption of a steady flow of blue links. Similarly for opera houses. We (Grimes2 and I) are preparing the article for appearing on the Main page, but just the name, so even more readers who may not know what an opera is. Let's be kind to them. - Do we have reviews we can quote? Thank you for having created the article. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:24, 29 September 2021 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of In Freundschaft
The article In Freundschaft you nominated as a good article has passed ; see Talk:In Freundschaft for comments about the article. Well done! If the article has not already appeared on the main page as a "Did you know" item, or as a bold link under "In the News" or in the "On This Day" prose section, you can nominate it within the next seven days to appear in DYK. Bolded names with dates listed at the bottom of the "On This Day" column do not affect DYK eligibility. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Aza24 -- Aza24 (talk) 01:41, 30 September 2021 (UTC)
 * You made my day, Aza! Now lets live it. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:04, 30 September 2021 (UTC)

DYK for Wolfgang Anheisser
Cwmhiraeth (talk) 00:02, 1 October 2021 (UTC) Thanks to LouisAlain --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:12, 1 October 2021 (UTC)

DYK for Wilfried Gruhn
&mdash; Amakuru (talk) 00:02, 2 October 2021 (UTC) <div style="margin: auto; max-width:48em; box-shadow: 0.1em 0.1em 0.5em rgba( 192, 192, 192, 0.75 ); border-radius: 1em; border: 1px solid #a7d7f9; margin-bottom: 1em; padding: 0.5em 1em 1em; color: black;" class="ui-helper-clearfix">

Did you know ...

... that Wilfried Gruhn founded a centre for early childhood music learning in Freiburg, based on the Gordon music learning theory?

... and the International Kestenberg Society, but DYK had no room for that?

... that Leo Kestenberg, a concert pianist, initiated a large-scale reform of music education in Prussia, but had to flee the Nazis first to Prague and then to Tel Aviv?
 * Both articles were translated LouisAlain, and I will have to create Gordon myself because he is blocked --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:59, 2 October 2021 (UTC)
 * ... which I didn't manage because two composers who died come first --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:16, 3 October 2021 (UTC)

Celebrate 3 October
3 October is not only our national holiday, and this year also the Erntedankfest harvest festival, but also the traditional concert day in St. Bonifatius, Rossini today, the first concert after Stabat Mater in 2019. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:16, 3 October 2021 (UTC)

A great experience! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:14, 4 October 2021 (UTC)

Carlisle Floyd Image
Gerda Arendt— This image of Carlisle Floyd should be in public domain as the credit is to the White House photographer, an employee in the pay of the U.S. government. The image is of Carlisle Floyd flanked by then President George W. Bush and First Lady Laura Bush as Floyd is presented with the National Medal of Arts. If for no other use, the image could be cropped and placed at the article top. — N eonorange (talk to Phil) (he, they) 00:36, 5 October 2021 (UTC) Also, I left responses on my talk page to your earlier posts there, including a ten item long filmography for Eberhard Panitz. — N eonorange (talk to Phil) (he, they) 01:03, 5 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Thank you, Phil! - I agree completely about the image, the present one being of low quality for a high quality person. GRuban is my image-angel. - The other: I haven't looked yet but feel better already (the verge of exploding is uncomfortable). Here is what I woke up with:
 * Yesterday: we had a red interlanguage link for Eberhard Panitz, which is better than a plain red link, great to have for those who read German, and for those who want to translate from German, but others could - once there - only use machine translation; and not understand the links from it. Step 1 to help them is to make a stub of the introduction, mark it as such (... please help Wikipedia by expanding). Step 2 is to translate the whole German article as it is, which is what LouisAlain would have done if he wasn't blocked. We could mark a step 2 article as such ("This article is a rough translation, please help Wikipedia by using the provided references inline and finding additional reliable sources.) I believe that would be much better for our readers than returning to an interlanguage link, or - worse - to just a red link.
 * Thoughts? To stay with the example: nobody did the translation, so I began but became dead tired when at step 2. This is a project where we can help each other, instead of demanding that even a foreigner has to overcome step 2 as insufficient, and arrive at step 3 - a fully referenced article - immediately. We have top buttons for GAs and FAs, - we could create some for stub and rough translation, less obtrusive then the banners we currently use. So, you, Phil, please add your filmography, and y'all please find refs and expand. I want to seee him on the Main page.
 * Note to self: This too shall pass, music by Raminta Šerkšnytė, world premiere 30 Sep and I was there. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:27, 5 October 2021 (UTC)
 * I found a higher resolution version of the image, then made two crops, one tighter, one a bit brighter, your call. --GRuban (talk) 12:58, 5 October 2021 (UTC)


 * That's great and just in time. Can someone please use one of them for Wikidata? I can't log in. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:46, 5 October 2021 (UTC)
 * User:AleatoryPonderings did. --GRuban (talk) 16:49, 5 October 2021 (UTC)
 * That's nice! Would you find one for Klaus Hasselmann? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:51, 5 October 2021 (UTC)
 * No such luck, unfortunately. Check again in a few months to a year, he will no doubt get a burst of publicity for obvious reasons. --GRuban (talk) 17:10, 5 October 2021 (UTC)

DYK for Komm, Herr, segne uns
— Maile (talk) 00:03, 7 October 2021 (UTC) "Friede muss noch werden" hard to translate, suggestions welcome, peace still needs to become/grow/be developed ...? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:04, 7 October 2021 (UTC) "Did someone mention Joseph K? Ah yes, Frau Grubach, Wikipedia surely loves Der Process, doesn't it. Martinevans123 (talk) 16:18, 29 September 2021 (UTC) (Note: I have not used an un-named machine translation device)
 * Sure. LouisAlain, versed in literature, look for "Josep K." on AN. I don't think it won him friends. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:29, 29 September 2021 (UTC)"

... and Fräulein Bürstel, in friendship. When I wrote my first articles, I was helpd, by Michael Bednarek and Jerome Kohl, imagine, and nobody told me that a red link would have been better, "absolutely", than my articles. What they did tell me was, that my second article, Siegfried Palm, translated from the German Wikipedia, had no inline citations, but nobody sent it to draft. I love that spirit! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:04, 7 October 2021 (UTC)
 * That was 12 years ago (My own articles from 2005/2006 were even worse by today's standards, but I'm slowly trying to fix them). As Newyorkbrad wrote here, sourcing requirements on new articles are among the things that have changed most since then. The difference is that in 2006/2009, people were not yet expecting Wikipedia to be reliable. Now people expect more, and our standards are higher. I hope we can treat newbies with more kindness, but experienced Wikipedians should just write fully referenced and verifiable new articles, or keep them out of mainspace. —Kusma (talk) 16:36, 7 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Tired after a rich day, so no good answer, perhaps tomorrow. Nutshell: I don't have "my own" articles, I believe in collaboration, and am proud that most articles this year have been made together with others, past and present. - Good find indeed. Städel (new Rembrandt exhibition) - St. Leonhard (open again after 10 years of restoration) - Bockenheimer Depot (Amadigi), and finally a police action holding up the train, - too tired for anything decent, even for reading Iridescent, which is usually reading with enlightenment. Even pics will come tomorrow. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:43, 7 October 2021 (UTC)
 * listen to Liz Reiter, singing 8 love songs - April 2020, her living room - and saying that this world needs more love, and - smiling - that she was pregnant with twins then --Gerda Arendt (talk) 23:05, 7 October 2021 (UTC)

DYK for Karl-Heinz Petzinka
— Maile (talk) 00:02, 8 October 2021 (UTC) Thanks to LouisAlain and Grimes2 (the "perennial gang", coined by theleekycauldron in the review, - if only it was true) for collaboration on this article, #1700 and rising --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:36, 8 October 2021 (UTC)

I found consolation talking to among others. Ideas? - The sculptor (below) was brought to the Main page by the same gang, - enjoy! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:40, 9 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Antandrus
 * Berig
 * Encyclopædius
 * Ipigott
 * Martinevans123
 * Netherzone
 * scope creep
 * theleekycauldron

DYK for Anton Josef Reiss
Cwmhiraeth (talk) 00:02, 9 October 2021 (UTC) thanks to LouisAlain and Grimes - last call AN, pieta means have mercy. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 17:56, 10 October 2021 (UTC) <div style="margin: auto; max-width:37em; box-shadow: 0.1em 0.1em 0.5em rgba( 192, 192, 192, 0.75 ); border-radius: 1em; border: 1px solid #a7d7f9; margin-bottom: 1em; padding: 0.5em 1em 1em; color: black;" class="ui-helper-clearfix"> Did you know ...

... that Anton Josef Reiss created a marble Pietà sculpture for Cologne's St. Gereon?

... that Karl-Heinz Petzinka, the rector of the Kunstakademie Düsseldorf, designed the Stadttor in Düsseldorf?

In Freundschaft

Sorry!
Sorry about that, I clicked in the wrong place. I have undone myself. Hope you are well. DuncanHill (talk) 19:04, 10 October 2021 (UTC)
 * No problem, it happens to all of us. - I'm well, nice outing, in the process of uploading images. The AN thread is on my mind more than I want to permit myself, - telling us foreign editors that we are not wanted if we don't meet certain standards, and that European topics are problematic, but I'll turn away, - I don't speak admin language, nor English it seems. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:24, 10 October 2021 (UTC)
 * No need for anyone to start commenting on your English, Gerda. I can assure you it's far better than that of the average English-speaking contributor. And as for doing away with non-English speakers, the majority of articles relating to the Scandinavian countries would never had been written if it weren't for non native speakers. I too suffer from the inability to communicate in administrative wikispeak and have no desire to learn it. I hope more competent AN addicts will come to your rescue there.--Ipigott (talk) 09:13, 11 October 2021 (UTC)
 * I have little hope in "more competent AN addicts", - all I asked said no or looked only at my beautiful images, and I even understand both positions. It all boils down to: is unfinished content unwanted, or a challenge to improve it together? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:26, 11 October 2021 (UTC)
 * The question was answered as I predicted weeks ago. Au revoir, LouisAlain, merci. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:44, 13 October 2021 (UTC)

Surroundings of Cologne Cathedral
If you have time, Gerda, you might like to take a quick look at this one. Someone seems to feel that as the English article on Cologne Cathedral is longer than the one in German, additional material on the site is superfluous. Even though I know the area well, I found the article very informative and see no grounds for its removal.--Ipigott (talk) 08:47, 11 October 2021 (UTC)
 * It's now at Cologne Cathedral quarter, and went over the prose. Help wanted for the lists of buildings past and present. Nice overview of urban planning over centuries! - I'll be mostly away until Monday. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:46, 14 October 2021 (UTC)

What could I do to help ?
Hi, Gerda Arendt. What is going on, How could I be of help to my compatriot....? I don't have any clue.--DDupard (talk) 17:08, 13 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Sorry to say, it's all too late now. There's a thread on WP:AN which began harmless as a discussion about a topic ban and escalated. I declared him missing when he was blocked, knowing that he wouldn't appeal. (Would I? No.) It will probably not help him but perhaps you if you voice what you feel. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 17:13, 13 October 2021 (UTC)
 * DDupard, I moved this to context. If you want more background, lock above and perhaps read the linked discussions before voicing anything. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 17:22, 13 October 2021 (UTC)

ITN recognition for Evelyn Richter
great black&white photographic empathy, - going to sing in choir for a funeral --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:44, 13 October 2021 (UTC)

DYK for Johann Adam von Questenberg
Cwmhiraeth (talk) 00:02, 15 October 2021 (UTC)

Berlin Cabinet cup
Gerda, This cup commemorates a 25th wedding anniversary. From the inscription, would you think the wife was still alive? Thanks. Johnbod (talk) 16:44, 15 October 2021 (UTC)
 * It says to his beloved wife, so why not? Auf ewig may just mean the promise that his love will be forever. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 17:01, 15 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Thanks. The black ground on the saucer, and gravestone-like stone on the cup made me wonder. Johnbod (talk) 17:11, 15 October 2021 (UTC)
 * https://www.metmuseum.org/art/collection/search/461093 German wiki has an article for the husband: Karl von Schmidt (General, 1773), His wife Maria Katharine Meyer (1781–1862) was still alive. Grimes2 (talk) 17:46, 15 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Ok, thanks! Grim lot, these Prussian generals. Johnbod (talk) 17:54, 15 October 2021 (UTC)
 * I'm not a native German speaker, but I agree with Gerda - "auf ewig" reads to me as "for ever", not "in eternity" (which would be "in Ewigkeit"). (Gerda will understand if I cite "Der Abschied" ("Allüberall und ewig, Blauen licht die Fernen!, Ewig... ewig..."), which refers to the present and future on Earth). Narky Blert (talk) 00:30, 17 October 2021 (UTC)
 * I once paraphrased that as "Das Lied von der Gerda". --Gerda Arendt (talk) 00:38, 17 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Is that by the composer who wrote Songs of a Travelling Salesman? Narky Blert (talk) 12:24, 17 October 2021 (UTC)
 * One of my favorite composers. Grimes2 (talk) 12:32, 17 October 2021 (UTC)


 * Great article, . I was not aware the trend was so widespread. I was wondering whether you had come across any collections or items which are displayed in their original cabinets. I suppose they must have looked something like the second image on the right.--Ipigott (talk) 09:04, 18 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Thanks! I haven't, though I can't say I've looked much - I suspect some of the museums for the top factories might have displays like that.  Burghley House has one of the best-documented collections (of Asian export stuff) that remains intact since the late 17th century, but the display cases must be much later.  The "Vitrine à porcelaine avec bibelots" pic is no doubt broadly on the mark, except in terms of quality.  Only the little cup at bottom right might really be called a "cabinet piece" I think, though the focus is rather fuzzy.  I suspect early ones were raised higher on legs. Johnbod (talk) 14:40, 18 October 2021 (UTC)

The Matthew Passion as opera
Jonathan Miller trained as a medical doctor, but first made his name as a professional comic. He later turned his hand to directing theatre and opera; and I've just remembered this 1994 TV performance, which I was delighted to find on YouTube. ("O Lamm Gottes, unschuldig" isn't acid enough for my liking, but it rarely is. It should cut right through the texture, and come as a jolt.) Narky Blert (talk) 18:18, 16 October 2021 (UTC)
 * will see later, thank you --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:22, 17 October 2021 (UTC)

DYK nomination of Guillaume Franc
Hello! Your submission of Guillaume Franc at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and some issues with it may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) at your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! Montanabw (talk) 19:12, 16 October 2021 (UTC)
 * We have to say thanks to LouisAlain for that article. I'll reply after dealing with his ban and other things I couldn't handle while away, with great company, meeting in memory of a family member. See also User talk:Bison X. Br'er Rabbit, RexxS, LouisAlain, you are my friends, and I am sure that Wikipedia would be better with you than without you. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:22, 17 October 2021 (UTC)

ITN recognition for Edita Gruberová
She was incredible. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 17:19, 19 October 2021 (UTC)

DYK for Hilf, Herr meines Lebens
— Maile (talk) 00:03, 20 October 2021 (UTC)

DYK for Nicolas Mahler
— Maile (talk) 00:03, 20 October 2021 (UTC)

FAC mentoring
Hi, Gerda. I'm sure you get a lot of requests for FAC mentorship, and mine probably isn't very special. I came across the fledgling article Socrates Nelson through the 'random article' search last December, and – entirely unprompted and for no good reason other than to expand Wikipedia's knowledgebase – I kept chugging away at it as a passion project. I nominated it for GA status a few months ago – my first GA nomination – after some helpful advice and encouragement from, and I think it's ready or near-ready for FA status. I gave it a while before I decided to nominate it, since I wanted to be able to look at the article with a fresh set of eyes, so to speak, and I still think it looks good enough to nominate, but a second opinion and some guidance would be invaluable. It was approved for GA status with little ado, and I was hoping you could take a look at it and possibly mentor me through FA nomination if you think it has a shot. All the best.  TheTechnician27  (Talk page)  03:09, 20 October 2021 (UTC)
 * That was 12 years ago (My own articles from 2005/2006 were even worse by today's standards, but I'm slowly trying to fix them). As Newyorkbrad wrote here, sourcing requirements on new articles are among the things that have changed most since then. The difference is that in 2006/2009, people were not yet expecting Wikipedia to be reliable. Now people expect more, and our standards are higher. I hope we can treat newbies with more kindness, but experienced Wikipedians should just write fully referenced and verifiable new articles, or keep them out of mainspace. —Kusma (talk) 16:36, 7 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Tired after a rich day, so no good answer, perhaps tomorrow. Nutshell: I don't have "my own" articles, I believe in collaboration, and am proud that most articles this year have been made together with others, past and present. - Good find indeed. Städel (new Rembrandt exhibition) - St. Leonhard (open again after 10 years of restoration) - Bockenheimer Depot (Amadigi), and finally a police action holding up the train, - too tired for anything decent, even for reading Iridescent, which is usually reading with enlightenment. Even pics will come tomorrow. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:43, 7 October 2021 (UTC)
 * listen to Liz Reiter, singing 8 love songs - April 2020, her living room - and saying that this world needs more love, and - smiling - that she was pregnant with twins then --Gerda Arendt (talk) 23:05, 7 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Technician27, thank you for asking me. I'll look but later. Still more to do for Gruberová. It's not a topic I'm familiar with, so perhaps someone else would be better prepared. Have you considered to first run a peer review, to get a broader perspective, or would you do that after I looked? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:36, 20 October 2021 (UTC)
 * I could put it up for peer review in the interim. I'd skipped it because I assumed it was reasonably similar to the scrutiny a good article nominee receives during review. PS: You're perfectly within your rights not to be familiar with the subject; it's incredibly obscure, and even I didn't know a thing about him until I started working on the article. However, I could also look for an FA mentor who deals more with U.S. politics/history. Thanks for your prompt response.  TheTechnician27  (Talk page)  13:16, 20 October 2021 (UTC)
 * My first thought of a FAC writer familiar with U.S. politics - and the most prolific FAC writer of all times - is Wehwalt. - FACs get much more scrutiny than GAs, display of sources (do they all have locations, for example), image alt text (explaining for a blind what they would see), - perhaps just look at a recent FAC and check what reviewers demand. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:25, 20 October 2021 (UTC)

DYK for Max Creutz
— Maile (talk) 00:02, 21 October 2021 (UTC) thank you, LouisAlain --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:06, 21 October 2021 (UTC)

DYK for Manchmal feiern wir mitten im Tag
— Maile (talk) 12:02, 21 October 2021 (UTC) Today, we celebrate the birthday of a person dear to me. When he died I sang Jesu, meine Freude, BWV 227, nominated for FAC: my song of defiance of the old dragon, death and fear. Including the fear to be here in vain. He and I and other family members explored what is now Südheide Nature Park, showing me plants and birds. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:03, 22 October 2021 (UTC)

Sadly, we learned that Bernard Haitink died, - I was blessed to have seen him conducting, last on his farewell tour. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:53, 22 October 2021 (UTC)
 * FYI: Spiegel. – Sca (talk) 12:15, 22 October 2021 (UTC)
 * thank you, seen, but I used Brug instead, more analysis han dpa --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:49, 22 October 2021 (UTC)

Köchel? Bach-Werke-Verzeichnis? Who has even heard of...
Hello! I started a discussion at Village_pump_(idea_lab). If you have an opinion, please share. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 08:07, 23 October 2021 (UTC)

DYK for La Passion selon Sade
Vanamonde (Talk) 00:02, 24 October 2021 (UTC) LouisAlain, this article is dedicated to you! Scandal seems to fit better than a hymn ;) I miss your inspiration, translation of cultural topics you found in obscure corners, good spirits, thankful heart. Thank you for literary context from Kafka to Schopenhauer. You others: please give me some of any of these because I thrive on them. I believe it's a scandal that we found no constructive way of collaboration, - I felt so talking in vain in the AN thread. Au revoir, and for a hymn after all, there's Möge die Straße uns zusammenführen, and telling you and myself: "go on with life, have a laugh, don't get too upset". --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:49, 24 October 2021 (UTC)

Germany Portal
Hi Gerda, how are you. I have just created an article about Jürgen Schulz a German diplomat and there a notice showed up automatically that the article has not yet been checked wether the article meats B standard. I tried to remove it, but I couldn't. How do you as Portal Germany treat new articles included in the Portal Germany scope? Do your really check every article wether it meets the B criteria? And if yes, hoe do we include such a modality in other projects/portals.Paradise Chronicle (talk) 07:08, 25 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Paradise Chronicle, better ask somewhere else. I don't care much about article rating, besides differentiating stub start GA and FA, and I'm not into the portal other than the DYK section. I was told (like 10 years ago) that of course I may evaluate my articles, saying start instead of stub, but that may have changed, or not be true for higher quality. (Of course, GA and FA assignments are not by the person who writes the article.) Perhaps ask at the portal or the project, or hope for someone who knows better. User:Vami IV perhaps? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:17, 25 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Thank you for both your answer and your work at the DYK. I'll just ask on then. Paradise Chronicle (talk) 07:26, 25 October 2021 (UTC)

Update
Thank you SO MUCH for the lovely, interesting odds and ends and the fabulous colours! I did a very nice gig at the weekend – lots of tricky/gorgeous French music, Celia W leading, thatched church in lovely Suffolk village. I am not complaining! Cheers DBaK (talk) 09:17, 25 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Lovely. Just working on a sonata that Graham W will perform soon, and record along with another gigantic one. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:38, 25 October 2021 (UTC)

Friend
Gerda, thank you so much for the precious anniversary notice. The one thing I find about myself as the result of the life I have experienced is that I can see the very best in a human being despite all of their flaws and I have called friend many whom society would turn away as undesirable. I am obviously not unique in this regard as I have seen it in others. I do not condone negative actions, nor will I ever, but I can separate actions under duress from those actions deeply rooted in the character/color wheel of a person. Sometimes health, opposition, stress and poor decisions can paint us into a position where we respond outside of character. We are human after all. When we are forced to have physical interactions with others it can be easier to see the human factor. When we are staring at black words on a white screen it becomes easier to disregard those same factors. As I have walked my path I have developed my understanding that I have no enemies clothed in human flesh whether they be on the other side of a screen or in front of my face and regardless of whether we have had a disagreement or not. That has not always been the case or my view of the case anyway. I had many enemies as a young girl, not the least of which was myself. I never hated my Papa and Mama for anything they did. I more hated myself, especially once I figured out not everyone experienced or saw things around them as I did. It took me so long to be able to separate myself from the notes and colors I hear as life around me moves and communicates. It's still there and I hear it and see it but what used to take great focus to get through now is done with almost no thought, like flipping a switch. It's not a clean break because I am human still. Because of this and other things I have dealt with in my life I see value where others may see a waste of time and I see beauty where others may see no value at all. I do not so easily dismiss a contrary thought to the established yet I am firmly grounded in principles and philosophies that have taken walking many paths to form, including those in another person's shoes. You are a friend and I have made here and one in which I can communicate with openly and freely concerning the encyclopedia and the areas in which it touches our personal experience. For that I am grateful. -- A Rose Wolf  15:38, 25 October 2021 (UTC)
 * I feel your friendship, and it's wonderful. In Freundschaft, - perhaps that's a good motto for next year. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:44, 25 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Anytime we can come together and build each other up rather than tear each other down it is a good thing and beneficial for the community that is humanity. Our positive interactions should be celebrated and those in which there is conflict should be viewed with the anticipation of growth in finding a way to come back together in peace and love. When I am at conflict with another person I seek ways to hopefully build a bridge to each other while allowing that person to keep to their beliefs and without compromising my own. Some believe we owe nothing to Wikipedia and it owes nothing to us. In a sense they are correct. However, I do owe you something. I owe you respect and it is my duty to spread love, even in conflict. I do fail and I don't make excuses for my flaws. Medical personnel have an oath, "Do No Harm!" I have the same oath but in a different sense. I don't wish to harm anyone and I want to leave our interactions with us both in a better place than when we started. I make mistakes all the time and, while my full attention is focused on meeting that oath, I have hurt others. There is no excuse for that and anytime I have talked about civility and love I am speaking to myself as much as anyone else.  -- A Rose  Wolf  19:11, 25 October 2021 (UTC)

ITN recognition for Udo Zimmermann
Thank you! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:00, 27 October 2021 (UTC)

DYK for In Freundschaft
Cwmhiraeth (talk) 12:02, 28 October 2021 (UTC) In Freundschaft - let's live it, in memory of Jerome Kohl. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:29, 28 October 2021 (UTC)

DYK for Eberhard Panitz
Cwmhiraeth (talk) 12:02, 28 October 2021 (UTC) in memory --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:29, 28 October 2021 (UTC)

Hans Clemens
Hi Gerda, I just knocked off a quick stub on this German tenor. (I was surprised when I clicked on a link from an opera discography page to find it about a German spy instead of the tenor. I moved the spy to Johannes Clemens as the German wiki uses that title for the spy.) I thought you might be able to expand it further given your German language skills. Best.4meter4 (talk) 13:48, 28 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Thank you, I will eventually! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:51, 28 October 2021 (UTC)

About you
Hello! I'm not actually sure how to phrase this in the way I'm meaning to but I'll do my best. I'm curious as to who you are (not your real life identity per se) as I've seen you saying "we" in some of your comments on your October corner on user's talk pages and I'm not trying to say that I think this is a shared account but I'm just trying to figure out what you mean by "we" and where you get all of your images from. Judging from your userpage my guess would me your in a well known band. If you want to clarify what I mean on anything I will do my best to try and explain what I mean. I'm not meaning this as any kind of warning, it's simply just out of my curiosity. ― <b style="background:#0d1125;color:#51aeff;padding:1q;border-radius:5q">Blaze The Wolf</b>Talk<sub title="Discord Username" style="position:relative;right:22q">Blaze Wolf#6545 14:46, 28 October 2021 (UTC)
 * I sing in some choirs which are named in the infobox on my user page. I often write articles in collaboration. I sort of run a project that others started but left. Please give me an example of which "we" you refer to. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:00, 28 October 2021 (UTC)
 * LOL, I think Blaze is just curious, Gerda. Blaze, Gerda works in collaboration with other editors to write and improve articles so it is most likely what she is referring to when she says "we" on other editor's talk page. It takes a village to raise a child and it takes a community to write a GA. She also works on the DYK project and sends out her "Precious" messages to all of us. I'm sure she works on so many other projects but I know she loves the classical music genre of articles like opera as an example. She has already stated she is in a choir and they are quite good. You can find links to some of the concerts and others she has visited. I've enjoyed everything she's sent me, including her photography. -- A Rose Wolf  17:55, 28 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Ah ok. Thanks for the explanation Rose (and Gerda). ― <b style="background:#0d1125;color:#51aeff;padding:1q;border-radius:5q">Blaze The Wolf</b>Talk<sub title="Discord Username" style="position:relative;right:22q">Blaze Wolf#6545 17:57, 28 October 2021 (UTC)

DYK for La Folia Barockorchester
Hog Farm Talk 00:02, 29 October 2021 (UTC) ... experienced at the Rheingau Musik Festival --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:13, 29 October 2021 (UTC)

DYK for Ein feste Burg ist unser Gott (Telemann)
Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 00:03, 31 October 2021 (UTC)

change the climate
31 October, and I don't think of Halloween. Firstly, it's a dear person's birthday who gave me a song about not being afraid, leading to this year's motto of courage. Secondly, from early youth, it was Reformation Day, singing "Ein feste Burg ist unser Gott", written after Psalm 46. I makes me now think of my dear friend who worked on the psalms. When I see the pumpkins, I think of a dear friend whom we lost on 31 October 2010. When I see peanuts, I think of a dear friend who made his last edit to me on 31 October 2012. He thought about reformation, - first link on my user page. He was missed by a dear friend who studied climate change, today's featured article, with an image reminiscent of a pumpkin. Be my friend: reform - change the climate, to more kindness - then celebrate. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:56, 31 October 2021 (UTC)

Wenn das Brot, das wir teilen
Thank you very much for starting an article on Wenn das Brot, das wir teilen. It's such a beautiful hymn that conjures up cherished childhood memories. Modussiccandi (talk) 11:37, 31 October 2021 (UTC)
 * It's great any age ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:27, 31 October 2021 (UTC)

DYK for Johannes Schröder
Cwmhiraeth (talk) 00:02, 1 November 2021 (UTC) He will be our next Kantor at St. Bonifatius. He was the organist for Laudato si' (oratorio) in Limburg and Frankfurt. (In Limburg, the program book said so.) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:34, 1 November 2021 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!
Blushing, Paradise Chronicle, and I love your prose! DYK that my first barnstar was for resilience? Here's to some of my lost teammates: I wrote Franz Kafka with PumpkinSky. I wrote Jesu, meine Freude, BWV 227 with Francis Schonken. I wrote Leo Kestenberg with LouisAlain. I was helped a lot by RexxS and Br'er Rabbit who made the Sanddunes Sunrise image. Isn't it enough that precious editors die? - Please: review Jesu, meine Freude. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:34, 1 November 2021 (UTC)


 * I wish one day I could come up with what happened with my block in the German Wikipedia. Today, it is like a blessing to me and a real one, one you can't imagine. I looked at Jesu meine Freude and from an observers point of view, it looks fabulous, it has so many details. Paradise Chronicle (talk) 08:42, 1 November 2021 (UTC)
 * That it is like a blessing to me is more to say that the English Wikipedia treats me much better than the German one. In the German Wiki the indef. block came after 8 valid edits and was reconfirmed after my appeal for an unblock due to difficulties for the access to the Wikipedia library more than a year after my indef. block. Today I see the block there as a blessing and I am not interested to edit there anymore.Paradise Chronicle (talk) 14:18, 3 November 2021 (UTC)

DYK for Guillaume Franc
—valereee (talk) 00:02, 3 November 2021 (UTC) Thank you for the foundation, LouisAlain! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:35, 3 November 2021 (UTC)

DYK for Hans Haselböck
— Maile (talk) 00:02, 4 November 2021 (UTC)

In November, I can offer some reading, - three feast days in a row, reformation followed by All Saints' and All Souls. On All Saints, we sang in choir in a mass - a 2021 first - and rehearsed (with the other group) for the next such thing next Sunday. All Souls is the birthday of the subject of my first article who will play a major concert on 14 November. Yesterday we "celebrated" the first DYK for which LouisAlain laid the base in a German sandbox. Today: another one from the recent deaths. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:35, 4 November 2021 (UTC)

Break
I'm starting my Winter Break a few hours early perhaps but I wanted to wish you well and thank you for your caring words and uplifting spirit this past year. Honestly, there were times when I had nothing but your words to comfort me. With any luck and a bit of fair weather I'll see you in the Spring, beautiful friend. Keep singing! -- A Rose Wolf  18:53, 4 November 2021 (UTC)
 * I will keep singing, and thinking of you, and hopefully you don't have to rely on my poor words. In Freundschaft. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:18, 4 November 2021 (UTC)
 * You think of them as poor but they were precious to me in my moment of need. -- A Rose Wolf  19:20, 4 November 2021 (UTC)

for deletion/Doug Ring with the Australian cricket team
Articles for deletion/Doug Ring with the Australian cricket team in England in 1948 (2nd nomination)I have started work on addressing the concerns on this Grubby Richard (talk) 18:52, 5 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Thank you! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:38, 5 November 2021 (UTC)

Proxying for a community-banned user
Hi, I've noticed via de:WP:AA that you are currently proxying article creation for a community-banned user, LouisAlain, by inviting them to edit your dewiki userspace at de:User:Gerda Arendt/LouisAlain and then taking their work as the base for article creations such as Frédéric Blanc. I'm very skeptical towards this, generally opposing the practice ("banned means banned"). As I'm unsure about the community's opinion regarding this specific case, I'd take the matter to a discussion at WP:AN if it continues. Best regards, ~ ToBeFree (talk) 13:17, 6 November 2021 (UTC)
 * I have collaborated with LouisAlain for 10 years, and a few admins representing "the community" won't stop me. My first GA was for for a blocked user, another GA was for a banned user. I am here for content, and I make what LouisAlain supplies, my own. Look above for his name. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:12, 6 November 2021 (UTC)
 * WP:PROXYING: ... unless they are able to show that the changes are either verifiable or productive ... Grimes2 (talk) 15:20, 6 November 2021 (UTC)
 * There's a big "and" after the quoted part, and I'd prefer to have a community discussion about this. I've started one at Administrators'_noticeboard. ~ ToBeFree (talk) 15:21, 6 November 2021 (UTC)
 * And Gerda's 'independent reason' is her commitment to improving the encyclopedia. You know, WP:HERE. Any other concerns? Mr rnddude (talk) 15:32, 6 November 2021 (UTC)
 * (edit conflict) I was not understood in the AN thread. I said LouisAlain wasn't adding fake references, and wasn't understood. I said that Wikipedia should be thankful for his contributions and wasn't understood. I said that every editor is a human being, and wasn't understood. I better don't go. I strongly believe that Wikipedia would be better without the whole thread, which didn't promote kindness, and only one article afaik. I am here for the content, and when someone is willing to spare me the trouble of a translation, I am thankful. It's no dangerous new content, but content from a different Wikipedia made available here. The following is by a banned user. I am with the outcast.

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 * --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:34, 6 November 2021 (UTC)

Recommend you stop proxy editing for LouisAlain, or most likely the administrators will block you. Don't shoot yourself in the foot. GoodDay (talk) 16:06, 6 November 2021 (UTC)
 * I agree. Grimes2 (talk) 16:16, 6 November 2021 (UTC)
 * (another edit conflict) Would Wikipedia be better without Frédéric Blanc? RexxS simply left instead of going to arbcom. Interesting idea. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:17, 6 November 2021 (UTC)
 * I would rather do without Blanc than you. Grimes2 (talk) 16:22, 6 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Thank you ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:25, 6 November 2021 (UTC)
 * A nonchalant approach won't be overly helpful to you, in this situation. GoodDay (talk) 16:41, 6 November 2021 (UTC)
 * "nonchalant" seems to have a different meaning in English. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:35, 7 November 2021 (UTC)

A small gift for you
I have slightly expanded and added a few references to Notre-Dame d'Auteuil, the church where Frédéric Blanc is the organist. I wish you well. <b style="color:#070">Cullen</b><sup style="color:#707">328  Let's discuss it  03:54, 7 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Thank you, Jim, much appreciated. Can you tell folks on AN to please take comments about the Blanc articl to that talk page? - Going to sing in choir at "my church" today, first time since 8 March 2020, - I want to focus on that. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:35, 7 November 2021 (UTC)

The community
Hi Gerda, I just wanted to let you know that I firmly believe that the vast majority of the community welcome your contributions, and that indeed it's more often the AN hawks who cause the same community to become demoralised as a result of their holier-than-thou attitudes. A lot of wiki-lawyering going on in that thread, just goes to show how widely things can be interpreted, and the community could learn from that and address those issues, but sadly there's much more determination to damage individuals than solve the root cause. I think if you just indicated that you'd give more time and effort to more appropriately sourcing any BLPs you write, then the matter should be dropped. All the best to you. The Rambling Man (Keep wearing the mask...) 08:59, 7 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Thank you, and for the clarification you offered. I was away singing, and am quite in the mood of Sonne der Gerechtigkeit. See above if you haven't what I wrote about, which was of course in response to an AN thread that left me missing a faithful friend. Such things don't matter on AN, I understand that much. I'll do my work today, - it's Sunday, I want to add the record of the service, write my article of the day (about a hymn about courage), respond to FAC questions (the article written substantially by a now banned editor which causes problems because he can't answer question, and I often couldn't read his mind, - you are very welcome to review my song of defiance), finish writing about the music we sang today, think about the Reger request below. LouisAlain was ultimately banned because he tried to defend himself, and I don't want to follow. didn't defend himself (whom I miss daily). Draft for a later defense: Of course the creation of Blanc was pointy, pointing at the loss of an editor who devoted his lifetime of several years to this project, and instead of thanks, got banned. I think controlling his translations by experienced editors was the intention of the AN thread, in the beginning at least, and that's what I can offer. Better than him adding uncontrolled as IP, imho. The article content and most references are not at all by him, but by the authors of the German article, which was cited for attribution in the first edit here. LouisAlain's contribution was the translation, so there is no proxy addition of content created by a banned user. - I did a translation from German yesterday (as often), but for Blanc, most refs are in French which I don't read. It made sense to ask the French native speaker I know best. I don't see "blog" in the references, but a news site for music, a record label, a book publisher, and concert organisers, but I could be wrong because - as said before - I don't read French. Did you know GFHandel ("I wonder what's happening outside ...?")? - Now to Sunday music. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:39, 7 November 2021 (UTC)
 * I think we all know that many individuals have been treated like dirt as a result of the arcane process, wikilawyering and hawks that circle the drama boards around here. I have complete sympathy that you'd want to keep working with those who were productive content editors.  I hope you continue regardless of this unpleasant interjection in your contributions, perhaps with a lesson learnt that a few more RS applied to the articles in question would probably suffice.  Please do continue to be kind, to offer kindness to others, I can assure you most of us serious content contributors take it in the spirit with which is intended.  The Rambling Man (Keep wearing the mask...) 15:26, 7 November 2021 (UTC)
 * I've no desire to have you blocked/banned or topic-banned. But of course, you already know that. GoodDay (talk) 15:40, 7 November 2021 (UTC)
 * yes I know --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:42, 9 November 2021 (UTC)

Follow up
While asleep, I missed the opportunity before the section was closed to formally oppose the proposed ban. The best outcome to this issue is expressed by (that you will reconsider your approach). I would expand, though, on the this in what asked (that you desist from doing this in future) to asking you to be more cognizant of the effects the blocked and banned editors you support have on other editors and content review processes. As an example, I don’t see you issuing prizes or awards in memory of, who was a stalwart in the maintenance of the FA process (GimmeBot preceded FACbot, and was also more thorough in that it also closed *all* content review processes), yet was hounded off by one of Davenbelle’s socks (your friend Alarbus when he was Merridew). I would ask you to reconsider your general approach to support of disruptive users. You talk on this page (and frequently everywhere) about things like “promoting kindness”, but seem oblivious to the unkindness spread by editors you support. You state that “every editor is a human being”; can you extend that empathy to those who were hounded by your disruptive friends? You state that “I am here for the content”, but how can we be here “for the content” without being here for the editors who write and maintain that content? You miss RexxS; who doesn’t? Arbitration/Requests/Case/RexxS His skills are much needed in my editing area, and I got along with him in spite of some of the trends evidenced by others in the ArbCase. If you need to know why even I could not defend him in that ArbCase, you only need to look at his last five contributions. EVEN AS he was under scrutiny in an ArbCase, this was a post he made to a new user. How could I have defended that kind of behavior? He tells an inexperienced user to “get back under your bridge”. Do you suspect that maybe RexxS knew which way the wind would blow if someone had revealed that diff on the ArbCase? (No one ever did: I cannot say if the arbs found it on their own, as it is easily noticed in his final five contribs.) Naturally, it’s your choice, but I encourage you to stop promoting and defending your blocked socking friends. And everytime you use RexxS’s name in the context of these discussions, you leave the impression that there is some similarity between his editing and those of your socking friends (there is not). The “prizes” you spread in the name(s) of these socks you are so fond of are quietly removed from their talk pages by many editors, who have been here long enough to remember the disruption, without archiving them on their talk pages. They are not always wanted, and are often a disruption in the form of bad memories of unpleasantries. Each time you present them, you are insulting editors who were hounded by your socking friends. Please take this into consideration, and alter your approach to supporting sockmasters. You can’t be “promoting kindness” as you support those who weren’t. Ditto for the current banned user. Sandy Georgia (Talk)  13:38, 7 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Thank you for your thoughts, - on my way out, but I'll reply, possibly tomorrow. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:28, 7 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Sorry, SandyGeorgia, that I didn't get to a response sooner.
 * Gimmetrow: If you tell me that Gimmetrow would appreciate being called Precious by me, I'd do so, but I am not sure, per what you said about some editors not enjoying the recognition by me representing a group of ooutcast. I'd like to see an approach that doesn't rest on memories of editors long gone not having been good to each other.
 * Precious: I inherited the award, and I tried to give it to anybody improving article quality, regardless of groups and circles. For a while, I marked entries where reminders had been deleted, to not make the same mistake again. When Worm That Turned had concerns, I "forgave" all even those who had hurt me or a friend, which of course resulted in unwanted reminders (but it's so easy to just revert if not wanted, no?). There are some for whom I remember (SchroCat, for example), but my memory is fading, - let's face it.
 * RexsS: I am sorry to not have been clear enough that I had no intention to compare LouisAlain to RexxS by mentioning the latter's name, but only to explain my reservation to appear at the AN court, as he didn't appear to arbcom, announced before the case was even opened. Had LouisAlain done the same - not tried to defend himself - I think he'd be topic-banned and still with us. That makes me sad. I can't help that some of my friends are no angels, but I'll still miss them. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:14, 10 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Gerda, thanks for the response; I understand you not being able to respond sooner, and hope you enjoyed your first-time-back singing. My best guess is that Gimmetrow does not enjoy revisiting these painful memories any more than I do.  I considered Rlevse a friend and was completely and utterly taken by surprise at how he reacted when I first approached him about rectifying the Grace Sherwood copyvio issue in 2010. I never in my wildest dreams imagined he would react as he did, or expected him to join forces with Davenbelle, a most disruptive sockmaster, to bring down FAC in ways that FAC has never recovered from.  Seeing how FAC has floundered since and because of what they did is most painful to me, and being given awards in the names of these two editors is insulting. You were not around (I don’t think?) when all of that happened, so I can’t expect you to be aware of how it felt to see so much work undone and disruption furthered by editors hiding behind socks.  I just wish (and imagine Gimmetrow also would wish) that you would stop honoring this past disruption.I have seen lately that you have taken a different approach of using other images that do not trigger these unpleasant memories; I think that a good idea. On the sapphire award, the other factor for me is that I don’t believe the article behind it warrants the FA star; it is a further reminder of deterioration in the FA process that occurred as a result of Rlevse’s and Davenbelle’s disruption.  But that’s just my view.  Strictness in acceptance of involved supports at FAC has waned, and prose reviews beginning after our strictest prose reviewers were chased off have been deficient. Beginning around (maybe?) 2015, FAC saw a lot of buddies pushing their buddies articles through FAC, and that trend continued through at least 2019.  It remitted a bit in 2020.  I haven’t looked at 2021, but hope that has stopped, although the rancorous tone of the FAC talk page does not give hope.  I am not parsing what you are saying about SchroCat above, but please don’t feel a need to tell me more, so even more unpleasant memories are not triggered over here.  I have found over the years that “forgive and forget” comes easier and easier, but a few over the top editors seem firmly lodged in my memory. I guess the main thing I am asking you to remember is that we all have friends we miss in here—those who were treated unfairly by the community, or by admins, or by even the arbs—but others in the community will disagree with us, and we should avoid rubbing salt in old wounds if we can.  You wear your heart on your sleeve about these departed editors; I force myself to silence out of both a desire to move on from bad memories, and respect for those who may have had a different experience than mine.  But it remains for me particularly distasteful to read the false statements about  on FAC talk, knowing well and good that he was not as anyone claims, and the well-respected FA process that he built was brought down by socks and has never recovered.   Be well, regards, Sandy Georgia  (Talk)  19:35, 10 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Thank you for taking the time, and I will think about it. Short reply for now: I remember that you and I both posted on Raul654's talk back then, and don't remember conflict. I remember having been impressed by Alarbus, not knowing anything about Jack Merridew. - I just returned from the first trip to Switzerland in a long time, and would now like to collect a few memories, mostly in images. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:02, 10 November 2021 (UTC)
 * A quick response re your “not knowing anything about … “ part. THAT is precisely why socks can be so disruptive— they prey on the unwitting, abuse of our Pollyanna good natures, and wreak even more havoc when we accept and enable their behaviors.  I think that is the main message about this other new blocked editor (whose name I forget … )  Best, Sandy Georgia  (Talk)  20:09, 10 November 2021 (UTC)
 * I should be on break but instead I am here riveted to this discussion because I think, personal opinion alert here, that Sandy and Ritchie and Gerda and Dennis and Iridescent and ToBeFree among so many others are amazing people beyond your contributions to the encyclopedia. Also, you are here. I empathize with Gerda, yes I like her, but I like Sandy too and empathize with you. When Gerda sys she misses LoisAlain, she doesnt miss his imperfections. I think she would be the first to say she wished he hadn't done what he did. Lois was advised not to comment so much at AN and accept where his faults might be. He chose a different path. In regards to what Ritchie said below "he threw kindness, tolerance and respect completely out of the window and lashed out at everybody". This is the central issue with me beyond what he did as a disruption to the encyclopedia. I can stand up for the human being that is Lois and empathize with how hurt he could be by the process while also condemning his disruptive and unkind actions. Yes, I harp on civility a lot, and I am willing to be criticized for that. Maybe it's because I have seen so much of the opposite in my lifetime and I feel there are better approaches to how we can conduct ourselves, idk, but I know it isn't just an afterthought that we can choose to put on or take off when we deem it appropriate here. It is literally a cornerstone of the encyclopedia and community. Lois was wrong. He violated that pillar but he wasn't alone and isn't alone. He was just more egregious and vocal in it. After which he was wrong to then threaten to sockpuppet, incivility in itself, just to cause disruption. That's why he was community banned, in my opinion. Had he simply apologized for his mistakes, of which there were clear ones, and said he would do better, he would have most likely still been topic banned, justifiably in my opinion, but still been here. His incivility, regardless of how others treated him during the process, some of which was his own perception but some was questionable, could not be overlooked. I still miss my interactions, albeit brief, with him. I miss many others through my reading of their contributions and archives here. I adore Gerda's kindness and her sensibilities. I wouldn't and don't want her to change that aspect of who she is. -- A Rose Wolf  20:43, 10 November 2021 (UTC)


 * I would just echo Sandy's sentiments. Our thoughts aren't too far off each other here.  I think you have to be a little practical in understanding that others aren't going to like you doing this, the way you are doing it.  I suggest a change of tactics that is more agreeable.  Kindness matters, for sure, but also respect the majority that take issue with your current approach.  I've stayed out of the discussion, nothing I can say to change or improve things there.  Here, I would recommend a touch of contrition and a review of your methods.  We want you around, but you have to be realistic as to which way the wind blows. Dennis Brown - 2&cent; 23:10, 7 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Thank you, will make a statement. I didn't look at the discussion on a Sunday with the first singing in choir at my dearest church after 8 March 2020, - AN is not good for my health. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:12, 8 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Let me add myself echoing what Sandy and Dennis are saying above. While "If you're a really excellent historian but you're just not able to work with others, we should help them -- go and make your own website, release it under Creative Commons license and we'll try to use some of that material" WMF diktat—which may be where you got the idea that this kind of thing is acceptable—that relates to situations like Ottava Rima or The Rambling Man where nobody seriously questioned the accuracy of the editor's work but they were banned from Wikipedia for other issues. This situation is qualitatively different to (e.g.) when I proxy-pasted Elegy Written in a Country Churchyard and took "treat this as if I wrote it myself" responsibility for the edits. LouisAlain was caught red-handed faking citations; as such, if you're copy-pasting then you're taking full responsibility for those edits, and if any of those citations turn out to be faked we'll treat  as having deliberately faked references, even if you were completely unaware. Since the articles in question often relate to living people, this is one of Wikipedia's few absolute red lines and we'll have no alternative but to consider blocking you even if you were acting entirely in good faith. &#8209; Iridescent 07:47, 8 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Thank you for advice, I said in the AN thread that it will not happen agaim. Off to travel, more later. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:26, 8 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Late to this discussion too, but I want to endorse what Sandy and Iridescent say here. As you know, I think kindness, tolerance and respect go a long way round here - who doesn't? - but I supported LouisAlain's block because he threw kindness, tolerance and respect completely out of the window and lashed out at everybody. I'm not putting up with that, especially when combined with a track record of falsehoods on Wikipedia (accidental or otherwise). I think the problem is you sometimes come across as wanting to rescue articles because they were created by a banned user, which is subtly different from what I want to do, which is to rescue articles because I think they're worthy topics to expand and improve and put in the encyclopedia irrespective of who wrote them. I don't care who wrote them, as long as the end result is an improvement in main space.
 * Above you have said you will listen to what has been said and will make a statement. Please do. Otherwise you are running the risk of getting blocked; the blocking administrator could turn around and say "well we tried talking it over with Gerda before but she just did not get it." I don't think anyone wants to see you blocked, but as you're more than aware, we do it to stop disruption on the project, not to brass off established contributors. <b style="color:#7F007F">Ritchie333</b> <sup style="color:#7F007F">(talk) <sup style="color:#7F007F">(cont)  12:51, 10 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Not sure what you mean, Ritchie333, two days after the thread was closed, and some reacted to that below. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:14, 10 November 2021 (UTC)
 * I mean, do you understand the seriousness of what Iridescent posted above? Do you understand that when you rescue an article from a banned user, you take total responsibility for it, and if it turns out to have serious, possibly libellous issues in it, you can be held responsible? This recent comment would seem appropriate; "In regards to the “do no harm”, harm is done when people who don’t know someone go onto someone’s page that was randomly created for them and put the wrong name and wrong Birthday and incorrect and incomplete information. That is harm done to a person or a public figure. Misinformation is always harmful." <b style="color:#7F007F">Ritchie333</b> <sup style="color:#7F007F">(talk) <sup style="color:#7F007F">(cont)  13:20, 10 November 2021 (UTC)
 * I understand that I am responsible for what I edit. In the specific case, most of the references and the content were not by LouisAlain, but by the authors of the German article (created in 2009) that he only translated. I checked the references, and found them not great but serving a purpose. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:03, 10 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Okay, that addresses my concerns. I think part of the problem is that pertinent issue got drowned out at ANI by the drama and name-calling. <b style="color:#7F007F">Ritchie333</b> <sup style="color:#7F007F">(talk) <sup style="color:#7F007F">(cont)  14:37, 10 November 2021 (UTC)

I'm sorry
(And I do, since July 2018, keep the Precious diamond in kind memory as one of the many ways the community shows it's made of humans, not robots. I understand others' concerns about the award's history, but it was, and is, a welcome gesture to me. 🌈) ~ ToBeFree (talk) 19:47, 8 November 2021 (UTC)
 * thank you - had no internet on the train today --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:36, 8 November 2021 (UTC)

Late to the party as usual, I was off most of the weekend doing fun things in real life, and only nipped on Saturday evening to bit of article rescue for Women in Red while I was waiting for Mrs 333 to get home from a late shift at work. I haven't read through the AN thread which has been and gone in absence, but we really need to be better at containing drama, instead of letting it explode. <b style="color:#7F007F">Ritchie333</b> <sup style="color:#7F007F">(talk) <sup style="color:#7F007F">(cont)  12:46, 9 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Thank you. I also haven't read through the latest AN thread, and enjoy a vacation day, so will not today, - at least I managed my last-day DYK nom, and now look at my song of defiance for FAC. Everybody is invited, - quality articles are what we are here for! Anybody up for a source review? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:53, 9 November 2021 (UTC)

FA mentoring
Jeez, it seems I miss everything going on with you sometimes—I'm getting exhausted just reading that AN thread, I'm sorry that you had to go through it.

I'm told that you're someone who can provide help in getting an article to FA—could you help me with SLAPP Suits? Totally fine if not, I know it's not within your comfort zone. theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (they/them) 04:54, 9 November 2021 (UTC)
 * There were two AN threads, and one of them hurts me. As said above, sometimes I read my edit notice loud to myself. Today, however, is a vacation day. Short advice: check out in my 2021 archive what I told others (two successful, one gave up), about peer review and image alts. Compare your article to similar topics. See you later, which may be tomorrow, and if again no editing in the train, late tomorow. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:42, 9 November 2021 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

 * Thank you! My first barnstar was for to resilience, DYK? In this case, I simply didn't look at WP:Great Dismal Swamp which helped a lot. I'm on a short cultural vacation, but have an hour or so. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:53, 9 November 2021 (UTC)

Hello!
Hi Gerda! I've been a huge fan of your work on wikipedia for a few years now! The amount you have contributed to pages on J.S. Bach, Reger and Mendelssohn is astounding and incredible! One possible request, have you thought about creating a wikipedia page for Reger's 'Die Nonnen', it's an amazing piece where recordings are easy to come by on YouTube, but I woulnd't even know where to start with trying to analyse it!

FlyingScotsman72 (talk) 21:10, 6 November 2021 (UTC)
 * I'll think about it. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:44, 6 November 2021 (UTC)
 * We may of course not anylyse but have to find a reliable source of someone who did it. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:04, 7 November 2021 (UTC)
 * I see, thanks! FlyingScotsman72 (talk) 18:13, 7 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Apologies for the page-lurking, but if you have access to ProQuest, there are some interesting dissertations on Max Reger's choral works compiled there. Hal peridol (talk) 16:03, 10 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Feel free to add what you have, watch Die Nonnen. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:22, 10 November 2021 (UTC)

Popped on
Popped on while I had a window to make a few contributions and relieve some stress. I wanted to tell you that I appreciate your friendship and all your contributions to the encyclopedia. Be blessed and enjoy the rest of your day, Gerda. -- A Rose Wolf  18:59, 10 November 2021 (UTC)

Hans Clemens et al
I got your ping in the edit comment here, and couldn't figure out when/where that image was published, so can't be sure of its copyright status. But! I found this wonderful image of 12 people, which includes Clemens, and am 98% sure we can use it. While that issue in the Los Angeles Times was copyrighted in 1941, I am fairly sure that copyright wasn't renewed - I looked in the most likely years for it to be renewed. I'm not an opera person, as you know, but I know you are - could any of those other 11 people also be people you're going to be writing articles about? Especially Lazar Samoiloff, that name seems vaguely familiar to me, but we don't have an article for him. I found a couple of others that are spouses of people we have articles about, interestingly enough. Apparently if you're marrying a famous person, you could well become a voice teacher in 1941 Los Angeles! --GRuban (talk) 23:42, 10 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Thank you, and 4meter4 may be interested --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:13, 11 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Thank you Gerda for your excellent contributions to the article, and thank you for the image.4meter4 (talk) 14:30, 11 November 2021 (UTC)

DYK for Andreas Reize
Cwmhiraeth (talk) 00:02, 12 November 2021 (UTC) .. the 18th after Bach, DYK? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:23, 12 November 2021 (UTC)

A cup of coffee for you!

 * My seventh, too! Hope you don't mind if I join you for that coffee. – ♠Vami _IV†♠  21:42, 12 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Thank you, both! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:50, 12 November 2021 (UTC)

DYK for Gott hat mir längst einen Engel gesandt
Cwmhiraeth (talk) 00:03, 13 November 2021 (UTC)
 * thank you - we sang it on All Saints' Day, the composer worked in Idstein (before I was there) - Aga Mikolaj died, and I'm sad --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:21, 13 November 2021 (UTC)

ITN recognition for Aga Mikolaj

 * another article we have thanks to LouisAlain --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:11, 13 November 2021 (UTC)
 * just listen --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:35, 14 November 2021 (UTC)

DYK for Möge die Straße uns zusammenführen
Gatoclass (talk) 00:02, 14 November 2021 (UTC)
 * yes, please, may our roads make us meet again, - often sung at funerals, but true for the living who are separated --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:35, 14 November 2021 (UTC)

DYK for Gerd Ruge
Gatoclass (talk) 00:03, 14 November 2021 (UTC)
 * thank you, Grimes2 and Ktin --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:35, 14 November 2021 (UTC)

DYK for Willy von Beckerath
Cwmhiraeth (talk) 12:02, 14 November 2021 (UTC)

DYK for Selig seid ihr, wenn ihr einfach lebt
Ritchie333 (talk) 00:02, 15 November 2021 (UTC)
 * ... daring to be kind --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:10, 15 November 2021 (UTC)

Q to Beeblebrox
Hi Gerda, sorry to be a pain in the tail but I reverted this good faith edit because it didn't ask a question. As you can see from the relevant case page, I recommended that Arbcom decline the case and thought that RexxS exhibited no more than mild incivility, that was running rampant throughout the world during the start of COVID, and I agree with SV's comment "I want to add that he is one of the most genuinely kind editors I've had the pleasure to encounter. You may not get fake politeness from him, but you have found a friend if you ever need one." which I can wholeheartedly endorse from personal experience having met him in the pub several times. It would be nice to see if somebody can suggest a constructive action that has a reasonable chance of RexxS returning and contributing to Wikipedia, but I don't think that's it. Sorry. <b style="color:#7F007F">Ritchie333</b> <sup style="color:#7F007F">(talk) <sup style="color:#7F007F">(cont)  11:40, 15 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Ritchie, I don't think you understood. I wanted to know from Beeblebrox if the next time an appeal such as Sarah's - "every editor is a human being" - came around (regardless which case) he would listen. I don't know if he didn't see that appeal then, or saw it but it didn't change things for him. I thought that was clear without a question mark, also that without an answer, I'd not vote for him, or any other who accepted the case, before or after Sarah pleaded, because even arbs may change their mind and should follow the complete request discussion. The relevant discussion happened on Hammersoft's page, urging the one who filed the case to withdraw it, but - as we know - in vain. How may I word my censored question? I want arb's who listen to people like Sarah (knowing that there's no one like her), probably women ;)  --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:33, 15 November 2021 (UTC)
 * I would go with "You accepted the RexxS arbitration case, despite many users including SarahSV suggesting it should be declined, not least because "every editor is a human being". Can you explain how it is acceptable to take action that causes long-term editors to quit the project, and what we might to do mitigate this?" <b style="color:#7F007F">Ritchie333</b> <sup style="color:#7F007F">(talk) <sup style="color:#7F007F">(cont)  12:37, 15 November 2021 (UTC)
 * That could be your question ;) - I want only Sarah's, not the others, to keep things "übersichtlich" for someone (unfamiliar with the case, and again, it's not about that particular case) who wants to put the candidate's answer in context (and would have to read only one, not the others). - Let me think a bit, first I have other things to do. My design was to ask candidates not involved in that case: Would you have listened to SarahSV's appeal to decline the case? (with a link), but its a silly question for someone who obviously didn't. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:44, 15 November 2021 (UTC)
 * How is this?: "You accepted the RexxS case. I would have listened to SarahSV. In a similar situation, would you perhaps change your mind?" (see also User:Gerda Arendt/ACE 2021) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:39, 15 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Yes, that looks fine. <b style="color:#7F007F">Ritchie333</b> <sup style="color:#7F007F">(talk) <sup style="color:#7F007F">(cont)  14:31, 15 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Had a minute or two and popped on to edit a little more on List of Alaska Native tribal entities. I see things are lively as usual and they haven't shut down the dramaboards yet...pity. I think offered excellent advice in just ignoring. Hopefully the advice is taken. I may just ignore AN/I's existence going forward. I briefly looked at Beeblebrox's candidacy. I'm indifferent to arbcom if I'm being honest. I think they do best when they go unnoticed and do little to nothing. But I'd say the same about community discussions on AN/I. It would be more effective if there was character restrictions and a set-in-stone format for complaints and discussion that is strictly enforced. I love open discussion as much as the rest but the longer a discussion goes and more open it is the more likely to see the heated exchanges that are not complimentary to building a better encyclopedia. Makes ignoring other's comments that much more appealing. The temps have cooled a bit (-21f/-29c right now) and the snow is piling up already with another light dusting (snowing now) but the winds are staying low for the moment so no blizzards. The sun wont creep over the hills to the South until after noon if at all. We get a limited view between the mountains and hills in the valley along the river. It's really dropped in the sky and sunrise is around 10am with sunset around 3;30pm these days. Rolling towards the winter solstice and complete darkness. We put the generator in maintenance mode when we sleep or are not working during the limited day hours. Wood stoves are cranking out the heat so it stays a tolerable 42f to 45f in the house, for now. Anyway, just wanted to say hi to you both. I'll get to improving that list for a few hours and then I'm off again for a time. Be safe! -- A Rose  Wolf  14:32, 15 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Thank you, and you appearing is like spring, because I was afraid we wouldn't meet you until spring! I'll take foggy pictures today, wait and then see. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:33, 16 November 2021 (UTC)
 * I always have to stop by when I am able to get on just to say hello and that I care for you. You are, without a doubt, one of the kindest people I know and you face adversity with dignity and class. I never said you were perfect, none of us are, but you do the best you can and you stick to what you believe while also accepting criticism along with praise and looking to improve the encyclopedia, community and yourself. -- A Rose Wolf  15:03, 17 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Thank you for coming as a sunray in fog! - Today, the TFA mentions When Lilacs Last in the Dooryard Bloom'd, created by a QAI member who was banned, the article taken to GA afterwards. Aga Mikolaj was created by banned friend LouisAlain who made the mistake to try to defend himself, which made things worse. RexxS has been criticised for not defending himself (in the arb case that I believe should not have been accepted, and that SlimVirgin pleaded not to accept), but I followed his model (better than falling in the other trap, not really versed in the language, misunderstanding ...). Think about the arb candidates' answers, you all. Some would not listen to SlimVirgin, so probably not to Littleolive oil who defended? ... not to valereee who said an apology worked for her? ... so perhaps not to women in general? I am happy that Opabinia regalis is standing! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:51, 18 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Me, too, Gerda. I wish more women would run. I wish more non-admins would run. —valereee (talk) 16:21, 18 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Logged on for a few and saw this. I would just like to point out that, in the discussion surrounding arbcom and committee positions, it was made pretty clear that potential non-admin's do not and will not make committee. I followed Gerda's questions there and have seen it either stated or implied multiple times. Regardless of whether its true or not it may be a huge discouragement for anyone seeking a position that may be an experienced editor but have not ever been an admin. For the record, I would never seek a position, either as admin or committee, not now and not even if I had 15 years of editing. Nothing against the admins we have. Our admin corps is amazing but there is too much drama surrounding those positions and it seemingly takes up a lot of time. I will say it seems there are many good potential candidates and I wish them all the best. I also hope for great things for all of our admins that do such a wonderful thing. Sorry that I am getting on at weird hours. Its just the way winter goes. -- A Rose Wolf  21:16, 18 November 2021 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!
Thank you, blushing a bit ;) - "enlightening" is one of my favourite words --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:21, 16 November 2021 (UTC)
 * "Overall you just seem like a great person" - she is. <b style="color:#7F007F">Ritchie333</b> <sup style="color:#7F007F">(talk) <sup style="color:#7F007F">(cont)  23:00, 16 November 2021 (UTC)
 * thank you ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 23:03, 16 November 2021 (UTC)
 * gerda's messages are a wonderful perk of being in wikipedia's community :) theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (they/them) 07:24, 17 November 2021 (UTC)
 * thank you for your stroll there --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:52, 17 November 2021 (UTC)

DYK for Cello Sonata (Foulds)
— Maile (talk) 12:02, 17 November 2021 (UTC)
 * played last Sunday by Miku Nishimoto-Neubert and Graham Waterhouse --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:48, 17 November 2021 (UTC)
 * reviewed today: Fesselndes von Graham Waterhouse, Transzendentes von John Foulds --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:47, 17 November 2021 (UTC)

Nouvelle cuisine
Places and songs and flowers and food: 17 Nov. Is this Nouvelle cuisine? Grimes2 (talk) 20:51, 17 November 2021 (UTC)
 * In a broad sense, yes. The cook, Philipp Stein, was in 2014 the youngest to win a certain prize, and now runs a restaurant that was in the family for 110 years. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:09, 17 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Ohh! A Michelin star. Grimes2 (talk) 21:14, 17 November 2021 (UTC)

DYK for Elizabeth Reiter
Cwmhiraeth (talk) 12:03, 18 November 2021 (UTC)
 * I was impressed then, and now again when she was Melissa (the sourceress) in Amadigi. Don't miss video at the end of the article where she speaks of the world needing more love - being pregnant with twins at the time. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:00, 18 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Nice stats, for her, the opera, and even the composer! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:25, 19 November 2021 (UTC)

Suggestion for an article
Hi Gerda, hope you are well. I have learned of a Native American Classical composer Connor Chee, who lacks an article on Wikipedia. Beyond the fact that I've heard his music on my local Classical radio station, I have no other interest in promoting an article -- that, & the fact Classical composers who aren't male & either European or American are few & far between. And I thought of you & your interest in Classical music articles. Hope this suggestion intrigues you. -- llywrch (talk) 16:57, 18 November 2021 (UTC)
 * It intrigues me, but I'd have to start from scratch. As I am fairly busy with things that I heard and saw, such as the singer above, I'd be slow. I suggest you propose at related projects, Composers and Native Americans, and see if someone is already better informed than I am. At a glance, I found this. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 17:04, 18 November 2021 (UTC)

Your message to me
Thank you for the kind wishes expressed by you on my talk page. I regret to have to say that your timing is incorrect; I have been an editor for about fifteen and a half years, and an admin for fourteen and a half. But your encouragement is appreciated. Anthony Bradbury "talk" 22:34, 18 November 2021 (UTC)
 * I didn't say anniversary of editing or adminship, but recognised Precious, with a link, no? I'm slow, and wasn't even around when you began. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:37, 18 November 2021 (UTC)

Disappointing
This, this, and this are disappointing. My concern is essentially mirrored here: "we must take seriously the social and emotional aspects of building an encyclopedia". And an encyclopedia is as much the reader and writer as it is our subjects; a girl is not famous because she sang beautifully, for example, but a woman is because of the arc of her career. Youth and death, and yes even sex (though I'm as guilty of that as others) get clicks, but is it ever fair to the people who lived full lives to leave it at that? Taken to its logical conclusion, I am afraid that DYK will soon mirror the clickbait churnalism that plagues the internet, instead of an intellectual repository of interesting factoids, some of which will draw you in, some of which won't. Clicks are something, but is that all there is? Just some Friday thoughts; I have no answers. Urve (talk) 10:18, 19 November 2021 (UTC)
 * I agree. Watchers, please check out DYK noms which go for the little, a bit sensational hook, instead of the achievements of a subject. In all three cases, I already exceeded my self-given limit of two comments in a discussion. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:23, 19 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Urve, perhaps bring the topic up at the DYK general discussion (where Belle Delphine already is). theleekycauldron, what can we do to not drive away a new contributor to DYK? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:08, 19 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Thank you, I'll put my thoughts more coherently about what precisely I find 'shallow', and leave a message there, soon. It's hard to make something, only describable by feeling, actionable. Too many commitments; tomorrow I see Omaha, the hometown of Elizabeth Pittman, site of the Pokrok Západu and Afro-American Sentinel, not far off from the birthplace of the Nebraska Palladium. Urve (talk) 11:17, 19 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Thank you. Omaha, I once helped a friend translating her speech for an art photography exhibition there. Too many commitments: I began to translate articles by Jerome Kohl about Stockhausen's compositions into the composer's native tongue, about time ... ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:23, 19 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Honestly, gerda, I don't know. I made a dirt-poor decision in the prep sets, and today it came back to bite me, as it should. I ignored my better judgement in favour of a cheap, quick hook that shocked instead of informed for attention. Urve, I'm sorry that your experience with DYK so far hasn't been what it could be, what it should be, and I'm sorry that i haven't helped. I fell in love with DYK because it was a way for me to share my stories with the world and interact with a fantastic community, and i hope you feel the same at some point, despite falling flat today. I don't have much else to offer—i seem to be running a dearth of biblically awesome powers lately. I do hope you keep making things. Lorenza Böttner, for instance was quite the article to take in as a trans person and Elizabeth Pittman seems like a fascinating character. I think you're right about DYK; it's okay to ask people to think a little more than we do, and I'll be taking that into account when I rewrite people's hooks for the umpteenth time this week.
 * This is getting a bit tangential. I'm sorry you've had experiences you've brought up here. I hope you keep nominating articles and providing your voice to DYK; wherever you decide to go, I wish you only the best. theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (they/them) 06:00, 20 November 2021 (UTC)
 * You made my day, DYK? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:41, 20 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Swedehome, NE.jpg Thanks for this kind message. Even though small things do matter, this will soon be forgotten. It's certainly not your fault; it's unfortunate, but institutional attitudes play a hand in guiding what we learn to value in something. See the image, right, the street in front of our family church (just barely viewable, left) and a cemetary - there's something beautiful to the everyday, too, not just the sensational. Ditto to what Gerda said. Urve (talk) 09:30, 20 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Thank you, and mostly agree, just one point: let's not "forget" the episode, but go forward having learned something worthy to remember. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:33, 20 November 2021 (UTC)
 * we live and we learn, as the saying goes :) theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (they/them) 09:53, 20 November 2021 (UTC)

unsubscribe
Please unsubscribe me from "Precious Award". Tak ~ cygnis insignis 13:18, 20 November 2021 (UTC)
 * we live and we learn --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:44, 20 November 2021 (UTC)

Question regarding refs
Hello Gerda! I'm currently working on a set of pieces by Respighi, but refs are very scarce and most come from booklets, reviews or non-book sources. In particular, I have two PhD theses and a score for the pieces which are used to describe the structure of the piece. I'm afraid that having two theses is a grey area in terms of WP:RS, even though everything written by them is fully logical and is reviewed by multiple professors. I'm also afraid that the whole "Piece" section will have 90% of its citations from them. I'm asking you because, quite frankly, I can't think of a more experienced editor on compositions. Cheers - Wretchskull (talk) 15:31, 20 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the compliment! - Go ahead, and when in doubt if fact, say "according to ..." - Better an article based on a thesis or two than no article. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:15, 20 November 2021 (UTC)

DYK for Elizabeth Reiter
Cwmhiraeth (talk) 12:03, 18 November 2021 (UTC)

Das Jüngste Gericht (BuxWV Anh 3)
If you're interested in some help, I have been doing a work on this exact subject for a university paper and currently have access to quite a few good sources (including the 2007 score edition by Koopman, liner notes to the recording with the libretto in German-English translation, ..., a fair amount of scholarly papers [including a few in German. I also have access to Musik in Geschichte und Gegenwart, though there's not too much on Wacht! Euch zum Streit there...]). I can send you a bibliography if you're interested. One important comment is that the article currently does not give enough about the doubts on the authorship of the work which is not certain, and the controversy should at least be documented - see Geck, Martin (2016), "Was wissen wir über Das Jüngste Gericht? I", Concerto - Das Magazin für Alte Musik, vol. 33, no. 265, p. 30 for a decent history (and Geck's view, although he seems to be in the minority, in that he has rather strong doubts about this). RandomCanadian (talk / contribs) 04:27, 21 November 2021 (UTC)
 * RandomCanadian, yes please, great! Today is the (last) day to get it to DYK ;) - Now that I have to do translations from German supporting (unreferenced) articles myself - de:Roland Böer - I feel I have too little time for the music. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:34, 21 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Thanks, I've sent you an email with relevant bibliographical entries. If you're worried about DYK, its always possible to expand it later (and trust me, there is enough material on this to do that). Cheers, RandomCanadian (talk / contribs) 15:49, 21 November 2021 (UTC)
 * P.S. (which I forgot to add in the email) Additionally, if you're interested in other stuff by Buxtehude, there's a thorough bibliography in the first volume of Buxtehude-Studien. (Matthias Schneider, Buxtehude-Schrifttum 2005-2014, p. 145-159); and there's also [available online, this one] a Buxtehude-Bibliography which stretches further back in time on the site of the Internationale Dieterich-Buxtehude-Gesellschaft. Cheers, RandomCanadian (talk / contribs) 15:57, 21 November 2021 (UTC)
 * RandomCanadian, do you think you can expand soon, to have it to your liking within Advent, or should we postpone for next year? DYK is mostly for the short articles, but it could be GA if you add from your sources? "end of time" is about now, though, not next summer. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:07, 22 November 2021 (UTC)
 * I won't have too much time until (approximatively) early-to-mid-December (which means we could get this to DYK, factoring in some time for the review, in maybe one month's time, just before or around Christmas). There are a couple of books which I do need to return to the library at some point, so sooner is better, but real life projects take priority over Wiki. Again, as I said, if you wish to help (mein Deutsch ist nicht so gut, und es ist auch nicht unmöglich das ich habe kleinen aber wichtigen Einzelheiten verpasst...), you know where to ask. Hope that answers your question. Cheers, RandomCanadian (talk / contribs) 13:44, 22 November 2021 (UTC)
 * yes, thank you, - if it doesn't wotk out I can still withdraw --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:31, 22 November 2021 (UTC)

ArbCom 2021 Elections voter message
<div style=""> User:Gerda Arendt/ACE 2021 - not a voters' guide, but the answers of the candidates to the question how they'd have taken the the opinion of a wise woman who knew Wikipedia inside out into account. The sitting arbs didn't. I vote for those who said it mattered. With thanks to, Flyer22, and those we lost to arbcom proceedings, which are often kafkaesque as I learned the hard way: "arrested and prosecuted by a remote, inaccessible authority, with the nature of his crime revealed neither to him nor to the reader". --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:24, 23 November 2021 (UTC)


 * see also --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:09, 27 November 2021 (UTC)

Thank you for your question to the arb candidates
I wanted to thank you for your question to the arbs in which you asked," Would you have listened to SarahSV (aka SlimVirgin) in this case?". On the face of it this seems such a simple question but in fact the answers to this question are very revealing. The question asks if the potential arb will "listen". This is what answers to your question tells me: Any candidate, in my opinion at least, must be ready to "listen". Arbs are not judges; they are mediators who arbitrate behavioral issues. To do so they must be able to see, hear, and understand the issues and especially, the people involved. Arbitrations are primarily about people and their problems, not rules of regulations or judgement of good and bad, or editors paying off debts for their actions. To understand the issues beyond the superficial, arbs must understand more than what a potentially biased editors posts. Second, you asked candidates if they would listen to Slim Virgin. Sarah was one of our most experienced editors, who because she crafted some of our policies was instrumental in fashioning how Wikipedia works. If a candidate will not listen to an editor with this kind of experience then who. It takes years to understand the way Wikipedia and its editors work as they navigate the policies guidelines and Wikipedia culture. I look for candidates who are wise and humble enough to listen to those with experience as they deliberate. I think your question, so simply, uncovers who those candidates are. Thank you for a wise and perceptive question. Littleolive oil (talk)
 * thank you, and I feel understood - wish you the same! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:56, 27 November 2021 (UTC)

the arbs I couldn't get
28bytes, Shock Brigade Harvester Boris, RexxS. 28bytes was elected for 2014 with 80% but resigned. SBHB was urged to go for it, but declined, and died. RexxS had the ability to arbitrate, looking at the thoughts of different sides, but left. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:12, 4 December 2021 (UTC)

DYK for Thomas Guggeis
Cwmhiraeth (talk) 00:02, 24 November 2021 (UTC)

psst
psst, hey, c'mere; i happen to think ornithoptera is quite the awesome wikpedian. whenever I see their noms, they're always super interesting and ornithoptera is infectiously chipper and welcoming.

their noms so far are: Falcon Lake Incident, Rhyothemis fuliginosa, Awet Tesfaiesus (they only have credit for the middle one as of now, so I suppose we'll have to wait). Anyways, they really are a joy to work with. theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (they/them) 10:22, 24 November 2021 (UTC)

DYK for Jonathon Heyward
— Maile (talk) 12:02, 24 November 2021 (UTC)
 * my brother's new chief conductor, the fourth young conductor, after the next GMD of Oper Frankfurt (above), the new Thomaskantor and my new choir director --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:35, 24 November 2021 (UTC)

2G-plus at Städtische Bühnen Frankfurt
Bad news. Here the ref:


 * I knew that, and better than closing he house. Can we improve the Oper Frankfurt article, please, and Sebastian Weigle who conducted Königskinder? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:49, 25 November 2021 (UTC)

DYK for Wenn das Brot, das wir teilen
Cwmhiraeth (talk) 00:02, 25 November 2021 (UTC)
 * I know the miracle of the roses from, of all things, a Hornblower story. Narky Blert (talk) 11:51, 26 November 2021 (UTC)

A cupcake for you!
Thank you, that's sweet! Happy Thanksgiving to all who celebrate! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:49, 25 November 2021 (UTC)


 * talk about your chickens coming home to roost! today: i graduated high school two years early! now i can apply to transfer to four-year universities as a college junior :)) if all goes according to plan, i'll have a degree just before i turn nineteen—oh my gosh i'm so excited theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (they/them) 01:27, 27 November 2021 (UTC)

DYK for Cello Sonata (Alkan)
&mdash; Amakuru (talk) 00:02, 26 November 2021 (UTC)

Happy belated Thanksgiving!
Thank you, - never too late to say thank you --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:22, 26 November 2021 (UTC)

DYK for Frédéric Blanc
&mdash; Amakuru (talk) 12:02, 26 November 2021 (UTC)
 * the article where taking the translation from a friend (not the content, not the refs) resulted in an AN thread --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:59, 26 November 2021 (UTC)

Barnstar

 * thank you! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:59, 26 November 2021 (UTC)

DYK link
Template:Did you know nominations/Drei Motetten, Op. 39 (Mendelssohn) links to t. Should that be your user page? (Pedantic, I know, but I monitor new links to T as most are typos.) Certes (talk) 16:31, 26 November 2021 (UTC)
 * I fixed it, sorry. I'm not happy with the template to nominate, and often forget to fix what I can't do while in it. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:35, 26 November 2021 (UTC)

Unregistered nuisance editor
Thank you for reverting the edit by unregistered vandal 88.109.218.190 on William John Seward Webber. As you currently have an interest in this article as a DYK reviewer, you may wish to know that this vandal has recently been making a nuisance of himself under four known IP addresses (and maybe more IPs, who knows). He has also caused trouble on one of "my" other created articles, John Wormald Appleyard. His hallmark so far has been an obsession with what he takes to be WP:OR citations in biographical articles (even when they are in note form only, and copiously backed up with secondary source references). His behaviour has included stalking and hounding. I'm just letting you know this, in case you see his work again - the edit summaries can look convincing, but are usually accompanied by the removal of chunks of text along with many citations. Administrator is aware of this situation, and has so far blocked two of the vandal's IP addresses. I'm just writing this to thank you, and to let you know what is happening. Storye book (talk) 15:04, 28 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Thank you for letting me understand better, and admin friend: please look. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:07, 28 November 2021 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Edita Gruberová
Hi there, I'm pleased to inform you that I've begun reviewing the article Edita Gruberová you nominated for GA-status according to the criteria. This process may take up to 7 days. Feel free to contact me with any questions or comments you might have during this period. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of The Most Comfortable Chair -- The Most Comfortable Chair (talk) 20:00, 28 November 2021 (UTC)
 * On the subject of Slovak sopranos - I knew, online, a Dutch hornist (now alas! no longer with us) who Lucia Popp kissed on both cheeks after a performance of Vier letze Lieder; much to the annoyance of the other members of the section, who felt left out. If you've seen the Bergman film of Zauberflöte (in which Papageno upstages everybody), you've heard him in action. (He told me that the young girl in the audience is Bergman's daughter.)
 * He recounted the story of a rehearsal in the Netherlands under a British visiting conductor (who he refused to name), who appeared on the podium with a cane, a top hat, and a black cape lined with red silk. The principal bassoon muttered under his breath, "Oh my God. it's Dracula!" Only sheer professionalism held the orchestra together over the next two hours.
 * Another minor gap filled - Vladimir Belsky. He was not easy to research, especially because I couldn't find a non-Wikipedia source for his dates. Narky Blert (talk) 00:04, 29 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Thank you so much, storyteller! Yes, I saw the Papageno film, loved it. I have a friend from Slovakia who knew a lot about this soprano. She wrote a doctoral thesis about the altar of the Basilica of St. James, Levoča, DYK? ... article written with Smerus, whom we almost met there then, DYK? ... who wrote the Alkan article still mentioned on top?
 * ... which a friend - subject of my first article - plans to play in March? - I hope that he and pianist will. Our women's choir singing on Saturday was the last for the year, and it was good, thanks to Mendelssohn's impatient Veni Domine! I love it that this Jewish composer christened Protestant wrote it inspired by nuns singing in Rome, - a broad mind! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:17, 29 November 2021 (UTC)

DYK for Herr, gib uns Mut zum Hören
&mdash; Amakuru (talk) 00:02, 3 December 2021 (UTC)

... a prayer for courage, courage to listen, courage to serve, courage to be silent, courage to believe. My question to arbitration candidates was if they'd listen. I didn't ask if they'd follow. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:24, 3 December 2021 (UTC)

Over travelling, I read an interesting thesis about the topic of my FAC - my song of defiance when arbcom misunderstood me. I guess I'll add it to the external links, because it's very detailed, and a bit hard to grasp when it comes to musicology wording. However, it also supports some facts already in the article, - I might eventually use it for such things. I'm back home (pictured) after travel (see songs), and will go over the FAC with more time today or tomorrow. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:58, 3 December 2021 (UTC)
 * Welcome home! Glad to see you returned safely. -- A Rose Wolf  14:08, 3 December 2021 (UTC)
 * Well, the trip almost took a day longer, because the train back from Paris was held up by a broken goods train, and arrived just in time (15 minutes, 1:09am) before the last train back home left Frankfurt. - I liked the connection of concert halls named after Pierre Boulez in both Berlin and Paris. Will upload a pic of the latter, - no photos allowed in the former. Music by Shostakovich also both towns (but only in one of those halls). I met Boulez once, believe it or not, at a reception after a concert in Frankfurt in which my friend was a cellist of the ensemble modern orchestra, conducted by Boulez. Cello music again now. Small world. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:23, 3 December 2021 (UTC)
 * My eldest brother and his wife actually met Pierre back in 2007 in Berlin. I only remember it because I actually flew over that year and stayed with them for a few days in Munich before travelling to Florence and then to Turin. I was there during the summer and they had talked about it. It was the last international trip I took before my parents were killed in 2012. -- A Rose Wolf  14:39, 3 December 2021 (UTC)
 * Another shock, about your parents. I was in Paris with mine at age 18, and revisited some of the places in memory. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:30, 3 December 2021 (UTC)
 * It was a car accident, they said one vehicle but we suspected something else and that locals were covering for someone which was and still is common. At any rate, it wouldn't bring them back and the person we suspected passed years later so there wasn't much use in pursuing anything further. It shook my world and suddenly I was having to run the store and take care of my grandmother who was going through the stages of dementia. I thought getting married would move me forward and give me a partner to help me through it but it wasn't meant to last I guess. Three years later he had left and then my youngest brother moved back home around the time she became too hard for me to take care of alone. I'm just going to say this, watching someone who had been such a huge and strong impact on you all your life just whither away with dementia may be one of the most terrible and traumatic experiences I have ever faced and I have faced many. She probably would have lived much longer but the deaths of my Papa and Mama, I think, pushed her into the later stages faster. -- A Rose Wolf  16:12, 3 December 2021 (UTC)
 * Yes, I think you are right. Now you share your grandmother's and parents' ideas with us, thank you! - I thought more about arbitrating, and think that Doug/RexxS would have been good at it, just see User:RexxS/Infobox factors begun in 2016. I heard music in two halls named after Pierre Boulez, who died in 2016, around the same time as a family member (and Nikolaus Harnoncourt who is a distant family member). Had people in the two discussions (conductor + project composers - but he was much more than a composer, like Bach, Mozart, Beethoven and many more) reflected Doug's thoughts, they might have argued differently, no? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:34, 4 December 2021 (UTC)

Matters German
The last time you contacted me was in July, but you did so today with a ping out of the blue. Was is it a mis-click? In the distant past, I helped create 52 chorale preludes, Op. 67, including two audio files for Nos. 25 and 45, slightly faster than Reger's tempi. On Commons, there are only 2 other audio files for Reger, which is regrettable. It's unsurprising given copyright rules. To my knowledge, we two are probably the only music wikipedia editors who have contributed substantially to Reger-related matters.

I re-created and cropped an image for BWV 227, knowing you were aiming at a FA. On other talk pages, I notice that you've also mentioned Graupner, in connection with the hymn Jesu meine Freude. Probably that article currently over-emphasizes Graupner (Robin Klupp Taylor's section). OTOH, the baroque scholar, instrumentalist and conductor Florian Heyerick is an expert on Graupner and edits as User:Floxoip on de.wp, nl.wp and en.wp. In 2012 he made significant edits to List of cantatas by Christoph Graupner. I think that RKT is also clearly an expert; however, he's also new to WP. Letting RKT know about FH/Floxoip's existence & contributions from 2012 might be a good idea. Content about Graupner's cantatas can be added to articles specifically about Graupner's life and work. That would allow brief summaries to be added to general articles about Lutheran hymns, e.g. Jesu meine Freude. What do you think? Mathsci (talk) 11:22, 4 December 2021 (UTC)
 * Nice to see you active! (I was a bit worried when you archived much of your talk.) Thank you, and I agree about Graupner: details belong in his article, and only summaries in hymns' articles. Rnklupptaylor, please look around above. Graupner was enormously productive, - I heard a cantata this year, a first. - Is the image that you cropped already in BWV 227? Please let me know if things that Francis wrote need to be changed. Just say F, to avoid being caught in the silly iban. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:39, 4 December 2021 (UTC)
 * The detailed image can be found on Commons (two clicks). I also simultaneously changed the quality of the image for Jesu meine Freude. For Graupner, please follow the link to Florian Heyerick, where there is an article in German with loads of links. Born in Belgium, he's currently active in Germany, based in Mannheim I think. On spotify he has recorded several Graupner cantatas. I fell asleep while listening to one of them. Mathsci (talk) 12:14, 4 December 2021 (UTC)


 * in my experience, nearly none of the ~7% of graupner's cantatas that have been recorded are sleep-inducing. So, you must have been very very unlucky. But that rather snide remark aside, I welcome the comments of both of you. Yes, I am completely new to editing WP pags. Yes, I am well aware of Prof. Heyerick and his fantastic contribution to Graupner scholarship and performance (and also his WP contributions). He has created the most comprehensive catalogue of Graupner's work, including the around 1400 cantatas. However, note that this catalogue currently does not include the texts of the individual movements of the cantatas nor does it include information on the text or melody of the 1345 chorales contained in them. A scholar at the university library in Darmstadt has been transcribing the cantata texts over a number of years and during the last year passed the halfway point in that work.
 * And no, I am not an expert. I just explore Graupner's work for fun. I produce performances of his fascinating chorale settings for a youtube channel. To support that and frustrated by the lack of a catalogue of the chorales (online at least, probably there is an analogue one in Darmstadt), I decided to produce my own catalogue. This shows that Graupner far exceeded any other baroque composer (including Bach, and please note that I am absolutely *not* "anti-Bach"!) in terms of the amount and variety of approaches used to setting the Lutheran chorales. Thus I was disappointed by the "musical settings" sections of most WP pages on Lutheran chorales where Graupner was not even mentioned. I edited three WP pages to include information on Graupner's very large contribution in the history of these chorales. These have now largely been revoked. Unfortunately as a newcomer to editing Wikipedia pages it seems I rather overestimated what can be done in this situation. I am very grateful for what I consider very friendly and reasonable explanations given for the revocations (especially those by RandomCanadian) and I am sorry for wasting WP colleagues' time on this matter. I am still very much committed to bringing the record on Graupner's huge contribution to the Lutheran chorale up to date. However, I see I must find a more "watertight" approach in future.Rnklupptaylor (talk) 13:33, 4 December 2021 (UTC)
 * Thank you for joining, and your efforts. RandomCanadian might be the one to render chorale settings in lilypond. Perhaps even create an article on Graupner's chorale settings? I think it would serve his impact better than individual comments for individual hymns. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:55, 4 December 2021 (UTC)
 * Thanks. Actually my YouTube channel is entirely based on lilypond renderings (and corresponding LMMS performances) of Graupner chorales. So I have no shortage of those. An article on Graupner's chorale settings would indeed be nice, although all the hymn articles do also need to mention Graupner and his very significant exploration of some of those melodies. However, my basic problem right now seems to be that very little has been published about Graupner's chorales. Also, only a very small fraction have been recorded (less than 100 of 1345 works). Thus, as has been made clear by RandomCanadian, I will run into issues with WP:SPS and WP:OR if I just cite my own database or the original manuscripts which, while easy to access, are not always easy for anyone to verify the stated information (due to the old clefs and Kurrentschrift). Rnklupptaylor (talk) 16:11, 4 December 2021 (UTC)
 * Thank you for explaining, and yes, that is a problem. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:19, 4 December 2021 (UTC)
 * Thanks for commenting. I was just joking about spotify. Florian Heyerick has performed with Musica Antiqua Köln; his Mannheim ensemble is a top class baroque group. Meanwhile I listened to your Soundcloud files and I think they are impressive. IMO they deserve to be added to wikimedia commons and wikipedia. I sent a wiki email for a different reason. After typing that email, I now read that you have a YouTube channel. That's great. Did Heyerick not write a dissertation on Graupner in 2010? Mathsci (talk) 16:28, 4 December 2021 (UTC)

I'd like to see Herrscher des Himmels, erhöre das Lallen, BWV 248 III, on the Main page for the third day of Christmas, which needs sufficient expansion or - perhaps better - upgrade to GA quality. Any help welcome, and no edit conflicts for the next hours, as I'm going out. Mathsci, any chance for a page from the score? - Erhöre fits the general theme of listening nicely ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:52, 5 December 2021 (UTC)
 * I didn't notice your request about the Christmas Oratorio III (no ping). I checked to see that, in 2013, I downloaded the image for the sinfonia of BWV 248 II. I have various organ arrangements of that; but I have preferred to use the vocal score (possibly originating in one by Alexandre Guilmant). I've played it at Église Saint-Jean-de-Malte as well as the college chapel. I have muted transverse flutes/strings on one manual alternating with the three reed instruments on the other manual, with a gentle lilting bass on the pedals. Thinking about advent, I learnt to play BWV 769 in Aix in 2009 while creating the article.


 * Since I've just updated that Commons file, it shouldn't be too hard find the Bach-archiv digital file for BWV 248 III (perhaps easier now, since things have changed since 2013).


 * Thank you for a rich table, in all respects! Click on December songs for more Martin's goose :) - I thought of you when I took the image of a Munich memorial for what we both edited five years ago. We speak now of BWV 248 Part III, while Sinfonia is present in Part II. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:30, 8 December 2021 (UTC)


 * Incidentally I saw some of the discussions on Bach & Graupner on bach-cantatas.com, with participation from Robin KT. I was musing about Advent, Xmas and geese: in the US in Pennsylvania and Southern California, I've had goose; and later in 2008, in Vienna I had Martinigansl at Café Central. In December 2018 an Austrian friend sent me a Christmas jar of foie gras from France ... and I'd almost forgotten the tradition of oysters and bûche de Noël. Perhaps Lebkuchen is more healthy. I also remember the candlelit feast of Saint Lucy's Day celebrated in Aix cathedral, with Swedish saffron buns afterwards in the Hotel de Ville. Mathsci (talk) 13:05, 8 December 2021 (UTC)
 * mmh, delicious memories, thank you --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:53, 8 December 2021 (UTC)
 * Indeed, Aldi beckons. I updated the Bach-archiv images for BWV 248 II, which are now very high resolution. In normal circumstances I would think of using GIMP software to crop/rotate the image. I will download an appropriate image for BWV 248 III from the Bach archive. I will trim and rotate the image, assuming that you want it for the infobox (and hoffentlich the main page on 27 December). Mathsci (talk) 14:15, 8 December 2021 (UTC)

Suchdatenbank für Chorsätze
Vielleicht hilfreich: https://choere-evangelisch.de/chorsatzsuche/ „Such, wer da will“ ist ein Tool zum Finden von Chorsätzen zu allen Liedern des Evangelischen Gesangbuchs. Grimes2 (talk) 12:32, 5 December 2021 (UTC)
 * Yes, thanks, a good tool for finding chorale settings. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:45, 5 December 2021 (UTC)

DYK for Lucerne School of Computer Science and Information Technology
Cwmhiraeth (talk) 00:02, 6 December 2021 (UTC)
 * Interesting article. Thanks. Urve (talk) 01:07, 6 December 2021 (UTC)
 * Thanks for noticing. Article made in Wettingen, Switzerland ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:44, 6 December 2021 (UTC)

help appreciated
Hi again, Gerda! Sorry for constantly bothering you with my projects, but I am lost. My work on a set of pieces by Respighi has come a long way, and I am aiming for GA, but only recently did I stop to think. When looking at other GA/FA compositions, such as yours, there are mostly quotes and brief descriptions about how the work sounds and how it is constructed (often with pompous comments by scholars) with reliable book sources. The article I'm working on mostly uses two PhD theses and a booklet co-written by the Respighi scholar and cataloguer Potito Pedarra. I fear that what I am doing is wrong, or maybe unworthy even of being an article. Could kindly take a quick glance at the article if you aren't busy? No pressure (and I'm sure you're very busy IRL and in WP), but that would be highly appreciated. Wretchskull (alt) (talk) 10:19, 8 December 2021 (UTC)
 * I am busy and on vacation, but I liked what you did when I looked last. I think it was ready to be moved already, and then you can ask more people. All GAs are different, so lack of pompous quotations doesn't disqualify. If you look at BWV 227, that's not the typical GA, because Francis headed for FA already when adding towards GA. Look at others, such as Locus iste (Bruckner) and Miscellaneous solo piano compositions (Rachmaninoff), and don't be afraid. This isn't Chopin's Second Piano Sonata whicih received much discussion. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:30, 8 December 2021 (UTC)

Rudolf Pohl
Hi Gerda! I just created a draft for Rudolf Pohl who recently died. Any help would be wonderful. Best, Thriley (talk) 00:41, 9 December 2021 (UTC)
 * Fine, I'll postpone Christoph Pohl. de:Rudolf Pohl, - I dislike that draft space misses the connection to from where you translate. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:12, 9 December 2021 (UTC)
 * Moved to article space. Needs more refs, - I'm out for now. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:29, 9 December 2021 (UTC)

bugging you once again
hey, gerda! I'm aware that you've always got fifty thousand things to do, but I thought I'd pop in and give a friendly reminder—do you think we'll have time to discuss getting SLAPP Suits to FA at some point? p.s. it's totally okay if you don't have the headspace for it, don't burden yourself too much. theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (they/she) 04:25, 10 December 2021 (UTC)
 * I am too busy for my memory, sorry, and - as you can see from the new images - on vacation. I made now a note on my user page, and will look closer after the red link above is filled and my Christmas gift is wrapped. Did I recommend peer review already? (... back to bad memory) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:27, 10 December 2021 (UTC)
 * gotcha—enjoy, too! You didn't tell me to peer review before, but I'll do that now—I remember listing it when going for GA, no one responded. I'll try again. Cheers! theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (they/she) 18:02, 10 December 2021 (UTC)

Kullervo FA and homepage TFA
Hi, Gerda! Turning to you, because you helped get the TFA for The Oceanides booked back in 2017. As you know, I'm aiming for an FA on Kullervo (working in a designated sandbox) by the 130th anniversary of its premiere (April 28, 2022). Would you be able to please reserve it's place for this date? During the holiday, I plan to pour myself into rewriting the article. I'm hopeful that I will be able to nominate it for FA in January or February. Very warmly Silence of Järvenpää (talk) 18:38, 12 December 2021 (UTC)
 * Thank you for thinking of me, and I'll help with reviewing. Reservation can be made only once FA. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 18:45, 12 December 2021 (UTC)

TFA Gianni Schicchi
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Gianni Schicchi is a comic opera in one act by Giacomo Puccini to an Italian libretto by Giovacchino Forzano, composed in 1917–18. The work is the third and final part of Puccini's Il trittico, three one-act operas with contrasting themes, following the dramatic Il tabarro and the lyric Suor Angelica. The libretto is based on an incident mentioned in Dante's Divine Comedy. Set in 1299 Florence, the title character pretends to be a rich citizen who had died, dictating a new will in favour of the deceased's family members but especially of himself (scene in the premiere pictured). The comedy, a rarity in the composer's work, combines elements of Puccini's modern harmonic dissonances with lyrical passages such as the aria "O mio babbino caro". When Il trittico premiered at New York's Metropolitan Opera on 14 December 1918, only Gianni Schicchi became an immediate hit. It has been performed more frequently than the other two, often combined with other short operas. - TFA today by Brian Boulton and Wehwalt Matching the Dante Year, and mostly in memory of Brian, who invited me to join making FA Messiah, who invented the identibox (first for Percy Grainger, later Beethoven), who reviewed Kafka and Christ lag in Todes Banden, BWV 4, and left me his collected sources for Vespro della Beata Vergine. Gianni Schicchi was the second opera in my life, DYK? - May Sibelius have an identibox? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:43, 14 December 2021 (UTC)

DYK for Schlosspark Türnich
— Maile (talk) 12:02, 14 December 2021 (UTC)

.. in the series garden, and often visited with dear people --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:57, 14 December 2021 (UTC)


 * theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (they/she) 02:18, 15 December 2021 (UTC)

Infoboxes for top composers
Hi Gerda. To follow up on the Sibelius discussions, I thought it would be interesting to see how many of our top classical composers had been assigned infoboxes: So that gives six with and 14 without. Many of those without info boxes include the composer's signature. So you still have quite a few to work on!--Ipigott (talk) 15:40, 14 December 2021 (UTC)
 * Mozart: no
 * Beethoven: yes
 * Bach: yes
 * Tchaikovsky: no
 * Chopin: no
 * Brahms: no
 * Debussy: no
 * Handel: yes
 * Vivaldi: no
 * Haydn: no
 * Verdi: no
 * Schubert: no
 * Mahler: no
 * Wagner: no
 * Liszt: yes
 * Stravinsky: yes
 * Schumann: yes
 * Mendelssohn: no
 * Elgar: no
 * Rachmaninooff: no yes
 * I'm not working. On Sibelius' birthday, I gave him one. It lasted for several hours of exposure from the Main page. Nobody complained. A user reverted who made no contribs to the article that I know of, in the name of another, and same. His multi-point impressive list has nothing to do with the identibox, invented by Brianboulton for Percy Grainger. You could tell him that. I'm offended and won't argue on that level. He had it refuted many times, but seems not to notice (Sibelius the last round, Ian Fleming ...). You could also just revert the revert of the self-revert ..., claiming that you are the principal editor which is normally a language that they understand ;) - See above for Chopin: Brianboulton added the identibox, but a now banned user reverted. It's those things that annoy me. Verdi had one for years. I never go for an infobox when I know the principal editor doesn't like it, - waste of time. I normally only add one when I contributed to the article, composers including: Max Reger, Georg Katzer, Michael Gielen, Heinz Winbeck, Iván Erőd, Siegfried Strohbach, Hans Zender, Colin Mawby, Volker David Kirchner, Charles Wuorinen, Dmitri Smirnov, Alexander Vustin, Vytautas Barkauskas, Ezio Bosso, Marcello Abbado, Ennio Morricone, Faustas Latėnas, Anthony Payne Louis Andriessen, Jerzy Matuszkiewicz, Siegfried Matthus, Sylvano Bussotti, Bronius Kutavičius, Carlisle Floyd, Luis de Pablo, Udo Zimmermann (and many hade one when I arrived at the article). I met 5 of them. We recently had a FA with infobox, Kaikhosru Shapurji Sorabji. There's hope. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:36, 14 December 2021 (UTC)
 * ps: I can't ping anybody, including you, without someone crying "canvassing", also: I'd like if those comment who care about the article enough to have it on their watchlist, not a crowd. I had really hoped it would just stay with any discussion. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:57, 14 December 2021 (UTC)


 * Sibelius yes --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:23, 15 December 2021 (UTC)
 * I was looking at WP:FA/WP:GA vs infoboxes for composers; nothing very much has changed since the infobox arbcom case. For Reger/Straube, I found a new book by Christopher S. Anderson that's due to appear in 2022. I was also looking at details of the Jahrhunderthalle in Breslau. There's an image of the organ on Commons (Ulmann bild, 1 January 1913). There's also a German archive image of the auditorium/organ from the same studio that can be found in many places (e.g. Getty). Probably it's freely available in Germany, despite Breslau now becoming Wroclaw. Karl Straube had an unfortunate past, as documented by Anderson. This picture of the Centennial Hall partly tells the story. In contrast, however, this picture of Reger's grave in the Munich Waldfriedhof is beautiful—your favourite flowers and sculpted organ pipes ... Mathsci (talk) 17:14, 16 December 2021 (UTC)
 * Thank you so much for the image and other improvements for Max Reger! Back from Munich. Do you know the "organ pipes" of the Sibelius monument? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 17:21, 16 December 2021 (UTC)

Fabian Kelly
Can you please provide a citation for the "historically informed performance" part of the DYK hook for Fabian Kelly, which I have just moved into the queue. I don't know how the reviewer missed this! Cwmhiraeth (talk) 07:07, 15 December 2021 (UTC)
 * Done, but it's also a summary of the concerts he performs and the opera he recorded. Others sing Verdi opera, he Monteverdi Vespers. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:23, 15 December 2021 (UTC)

DYK for Agnieszka Rehlis
&mdash; Amakuru (talk) 12:02, 15 December 2021 (UTC) ... and I heard it --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:20, 15 December 2021 (UTC)

Happy Holidays!
Hello dear one, I haven't seen you around in a while, since we have both been so busy, but I wanted to come and say Merry Christmas to one of my favorite people anywhere. I hope you are enjoying getting ready to enjoy the holiday! Have you sung a Christmas cantata yet? I'll bet it was amazing - or will be when you do! Hope you and yours are well and happy. All my best wishes are yours. The "Merry Christmas Tree" Reward is awarded to Gerda Arendt with affection and respect for exemplifying the Christmas spirit all year round. Jenhawk777 (talk) 18:51, 15 December 2021 (UTC)
 * That's lovely, Jen, thank you! No choir singing other than privately, due to the virus, which is hard. We'll have one rehearsal, distributed in the large church, singing from Bach's Christmas Oratorio to/for ourselves, which is the conductor's last thing to do before his interim period ends. Concert (Christmas Oratorio by Saint-Saëns) should have been last Sunday - cancelled. - I'll get over to you soon, was really busy, - look above! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:48, 15 December 2021 (UTC)
 * I can tell how busy you have been. It's a good thing with no concerts being had. That's just sad. Nothing takes the place of music. I pray the world returns to some kind of normal soon. Businesses are collapsing, and everything else will soon follow. I sound like the optimist I am, don't I? It's all frightening. I am determined to have a happy Christmas anyway, will see family, and keep my priorities straight. All my love, Jen Jenhawk777 (talk) 20:01, 15 December 2021 (UTC)

Gerda
I'll be away for a while starting Friday. Your words and the words by others you place here as a testament to them so inspires me all the time and I hope you continue to just be you here. Take care of yourself and stay safe. Should anything happen you will be contacted. I appreciate you greatly and I see I am not the only one. Good! -- A Rose Wolf  20:03, 15 December 2021 (UTC)
 * Thank you, and best spirits around you! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:05, 15 December 2021 (UTC)
 * Indeed, lots of people appreciate you Gerda, including me. Carry on, stay safe, sing as much as possible. Have a beautiful Christmas (and ARoseWolf, you have a wonderful Christmas too :) ) Antandrus (talk) 02:02, 17 December 2021 (UTC)
 * Thank you, blushing a bit. See Fabian Kelly for more thoughts ;) Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:07, 17 December 2021 (UTC)

Io, Saturnalia!

 * Ealdgyth, thank you, and see just below for my wishes (to come). --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:07, 17 December 2021 (UTC)

Merry Christmas Gerda!
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Ganesha811 (talk) is wishing you a Merry Christmas! This greeting (and season) promotes WikiLove and hopefully this note has made your day a little better. Spread the WikiLove by wishing another user a Merry Christmas, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past, a good friend, or just some random person. Don't eat yellow snow!


 * Ganesha8111, thank you for a cute message! - I'll make my own, and post them here, on top, over the thre days of Christmas, - feel free to watch ;) - I'm still in Advent mood, waiting impatiently. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:02, 19 December 2021 (UTC)

Songs of the season

 * MarnetteD, thank you for the cone, I almost smell it! - I'll open the packages on Christmas! Keep watching here for my Christmas messages, please, details just above. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:02, 19 December 2021 (UTC)
 * It is always nice to drop by your page to see the delights you've added. Your presents are a little different from your usual fare so I will add this treat to the pile :-) MarnetteD&#124;Talk 10:13, 19 December 2021 (UTC)
 * Hello GA. I have this on DVD and it is a Christmas Eve tradition. This is the first time I've found the whole concert on YouTube so I'm leaving it for you in case you are interested. There is a possibility that it won't be allowed to play where you are so my apologies if that happens. MarnetteD&#124;Talk 03:51, 23 December 2021 (UTC)

Nadolig llawen a blwyddyn newydd dda

 * That looks lovely! I'll listen when Christmas comes. Please return for my card then. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 17:05, 20 December 2021 (UTC)
 * Non-legally binding Santa Clause disclaimer statement: any supposed similarity to the Christmas card sent to you by MarnetteD is purely coincidental. Martinevans123 (talk) 17:15, 20 December 2021 (UTC) Merry Everything!!

Happy holidays!

 * Thank you for something lasting, as friendship I hope. Stay tuned, my wishes to appear here. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 17:05, 20 December 2021 (UTC)

Merry Christmas
Frohe Weihnachten. Grimes2 (talk) 11:10, 21 December 2021 (UTC)
 * Danke, wünsche ich auch. Mehr kommt zu Weihnachten. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:59, 21 December 2021 (UTC)

Merry Christmas

 * Thank you, - quite spectacular. Forgive me formatting a bit. My response will appear on top when the time comes, see below. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:59, 21 December 2021 (UTC)

Merry Christmas
RV (talk) 04:04, 22 December 2021 (UTC)}}
 * Thank you, RAJIVVASUDEV, and also to you. For my taste, the Wikipedia ball is too large, and "peace" zoo small ;) - forgove me for formatting a bit. I'll make my own "cards" and post here, - please watch if interested. - --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:35, 22 December 2021 (UTC)

Merry Christmas!

 * Thank you, John for another great card, a tradition now since 2011! My cards will appear hear on top, stay tuned. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:04, 22 December 2021 (UTC)

Merry Christmas!
<div style="border-style:solid; border-color:#01902a; background-color:darkred; border-width:3px; text-align:center; padding:3px; width:800px;" class="plainlinks"> Merry Christmas! ''Joyeux Noël! ~ Buon Natale! ~ Vrolijk Kerstfeest! ~ Frohe Weihnachten! ¡Feliz Navidad! ~ Feliz Natal! ~ Καλά Χριστούγεννα! ~ Hyvää Joulua! God Jul! ~ Glædelig Jul! ~ Linksmų Kalėdų! ~ Priecīgus Ziemassvētkus! Häid Jõule! ~ Wesołych Świąt! ~ Boldog Karácsonyt! ~ Veselé Vánoce! Veselé Vianoce! ~ Crăciun Fericit! ~ Sretan Božić! ~ С Рождеством! শুভ বড়দিন! ~ 圣诞节快乐！~ メリークリスマス！~ 메리 크리스마스! สุขสันต์วันคริสต์มาส!'' ~ Selamat Hari Natal! ~ Giáng sinh an lành! Весела Коледа! Hello, Gerda Arendt! Thank you for your work to maintain and improve Wikipedia! Wishing you a Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year! CAPTAIN RAJU (T) 19:58, 22 December 2021 (UTC)
 * Thank you, CAPTAIN RAJU, - and my wishes will come on top here, stay tuned. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:16, 22 December 2021 (UTC)

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 * <font color="#006633">  Merry Christmas & Happy New Year
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 * Frohe Weinachten und
 * alles gute zur neuen Jahr!


 * Wesołych Świąt i
 * Szczęśliwego nowego roku!


 * Linksmų Kalėdų ir 
 * laimingų Naujųjų Metų!


 * – Sca (talk) 20:35, 22 December 2021 (UTC)

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 * Thank you, Sca, also to you! Come in again to pick up the response, beginning in a bit more than a day. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:01, 22 December 2021 (UTC)

Happy Christmas, Gerda
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May you have very Happy Holidays ...

and a safe New Year filled with peace, joy, and beautiful music.

Best wishes, Voceditenore (talk) 11:32, 23 December 2021 (UTC)


 * Thank you so much, Voceditenore, for a winged performance of strings! I wish you a lot of it over 2022. Details to come over the next four days, Rheinberger In natialis tomorrow (which we actually performed in November already), and the DYK will say that the composer added strings (!) for the first performance on Christmas eve ;) - Later Bach on the 1st day and the 3rd unless plans change. Sadly, our planned choral performances have all been cancelled, only selected few voices will sing, but we will have limited chances to sing in the congregation. Preview of 2022 for all who don't want to return ;) - I hope to hear your soft but firm voice of music and reason in the new year! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:44, 23 December 2021 (UTC)

Merry Christmas

 * Thank you, Davey, appreciated. My cards are in prep, come tomorrow please ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 18:59, 23 December 2021 (UTC)

Merry Christmas!

 * Thank you Chris, - I'll make my own cards, come back tomorrow please --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:10, 23 December 2021 (UTC)

24 December
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Merry Christmas!

Did you know ...

... that when Josef Rheinberger conducted the first performance of his Mass in A major for three women's voices on Christmas Eve 1881, he added a flute and a string quintet to the organ accompaniment?

24 December 2021

listen (second mass)

dona nobis pacem

For Christmas Eve, I offer the clear mellow voices of a three-part women's choir. If you have little time, listen to the Sanctus at 19:40. (I don't know why Kyrie and Credo are missing.) Franz Fink, our conductor in Idstein, had the idea to perform in small choral groups, so we discovered this gem. Enjoy. Joy and peace to the world and you and yours --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:02, 24 December 2021 (UTC)

Merry Christmas and a Properous New Year

 * Toasting back, scope_creep! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:02, 24 December 2021 (UTC)

Holiday Cheer
Ewulp, thank you for the adoration, and I hope it comes true for you. I offer music and memories to make it memorable. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:02, 24 December 2021 (UTC)

Merry Christmas

 * Thank you, Whispyhistory, also for good collaboration! The conductor who led many of my early opera experiences died, DYK? Look above for introduction to a little piece of music for women (that we sang in November)! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:36, 24 December 2021 (UTC)

Holidays

 * Thank you, Ceoil, that looks like a long history - do we know what's pictured right? Best to you and yours! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:46, 24 December 2021 (UTC)

25 December
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Merry Christmas

Did you know ...

... that "Brich an, du schönes Morgenlicht" (Break, you beautiful morning light) tells the shepherds in Bach's Christmas Oratorio to not be afraid?

25 December 2021

to not be afraid

Merry Christmas!
Hi Gerda! I just wanted to thank you for all you do around Wikipedia. I know we've never interacted much, but I've seen you around for many years and you always seem to be a beacon of light and encouragement in a place that can sometimes be very dark and foreboding. I wish you a very Merry Christmas, and may the coming year bring you great joy and good fortune. Zaereth (talk) 09:32, 25 December 2021 (UTC)
 * Zaereth, thank you so much for a personal message that makes me blush a bit. My latest "card" (2 of 4) is just aboved, and perhaps there's something in it for you ;) - We lost people last year as I don't remember any year before - perhaps bacause I'm more watchful - but then I found you and others mourning together. Preview 2022, with hopes and best wishes. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:41, 25 December 2021 (UTC)

Merry Christmas!
Hello Gerda, I wanted to wish you and your loved ones a merry Christmas! You have been a constant source of kindness in the last year. I really hope you'll spent a blessed holiday period. All the best, Modussiccandi (talk) 09:43, 25 December 2021 (UTC)
 * Modussiccandi, thank you for coming over, and I wish the same to you, - you said it well. My card is just above, see if you find something for you. I took a pic yesterday when a lot of music was performed in the service, inspiring! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:47, 25 December 2021 (UTC)

Merry Christmas!
Dear Gerda, Merry Christmas and all very best wishes to you for a Happy New Year in 2022, in good health, joyfulness, and a sense of achievement, including here at the Wiki! With kind regards; Patrick. ツ Pdebee.(talk)(become old-fashioned!) 10:09, 25 December 2021 (UTC)
 * Thank you, Patrick, and same to you, nicely phrased. Look around for my decoration, - card 2 of 4 in place, yes, I think I achieved something ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:12, 25 December 2021 (UTC)

Merry Christmas
Happy Christmas, Gerda! And thank you so much for your participation in DYK again this year. Your nominated articles have brought me a lot of joy, because I always have a quick listen to your subject-musicians on Youtube, where possible. So here is something for you. My father had a habit of listening to the radio every Christmas Eve at 11.00am, when it broadcast the Nine Lessons and Carols from King's College Chapel, Cambridge. He would only listen to the first verse of the opening carol Once in Royal David's City, when a soprano choirboy would (in those days) sing solo while processing up the long aisle of that chapel with its perfect upper-range acoustics. The radio mic picked up his voice getting louder as it drew closer. So here is a fairly recent one for you to enjoy. They don't process any more, but it's still good, and I still listen to it. All the best. Storye book (talk) 10:55, 25 December 2021 (UTC)
 * Thank you, and a lovely idea - listening now! That was 1994, and I added the 1992 one to Stephen Cleobury's when he died, listening during writing. How do you like the Sanctus linked in card 1? - Yesterday's sermon was mostly about the shepherds, so having the Morgenlicht today (to be continued in 2 days) seems fitting. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:05, 25 December 2021 (UTC)
 * Thank you, that Sanctus is lovely - I'm impressed that he included a few nice crunchy passing dissonances - musicians' music, eh. One of my favourite sanctuses (sancti?) is in the Missa Luba. Once you hear it, you can't get it out of your head - not a bad thing!. Storye book (talk) 23:09, 25 December 2021 (UTC)

Merry Christmas
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Rubbish computer is wishing you Happy Holidays! This greeting (and season) promotes WikiLove and hopefully this note has made your day a little better. Spread the WikiLove by wishing another user Happy Holidays, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past, a good friend, or just some random person. Happy New Year! Rubbish computer Ping me or leave a message on my talk page 15:16, 25 December 2021 (UTC)
 * Thank you Rubbish computer. Best wishes in return, how about card 2? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 17:36, 25 December 2021 (UTC)

Season's Greetings
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Hello there! Shearonink (talk) wishes you & yours the very best of the season!

Whether you celebrate Christmas, Diwali, Hanukkah, Kwanzaa, Festivus (for the rest of us!) or even the Saturnalia, here's to: hoping your holiday time is wonderful and - especially -

that the New Year 2022 will be an improvement upon the old of 2021. CHEERS!

Shearonink (talk) 16:32, 25 December 2021 (UTC)
 * Thank you Shearonink . Best wishes in return, how about card 1? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 17:36, 25 December 2021 (UTC)
 * "Dona nobis pacem" is always welcome. You're a bright light around here. Shearonink (talk) 04:54, 26 December 2021 (UTC)

Season's greetings
-- Ser Amantio di Nicolao Che dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 19:46, 25 December 2021 (UTC)
 * Ser Amantio di Nicolao, thank you, and good ideas. Look around for general replies. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:49, 25 December 2021 (UTC)

26 December
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Merry Christmas

Did you know ...

... that theatre critic Günther Rühle books cover the history of theatre in Germany, its events and its people, from 1887 to 1966?

26 December 2021

read and remember

Second day of Christmas, and asked how it was: yes it has it's charm, - DYK that we have two days in Germany? So I'm just waking up to another feast day, landscape lightly powdered with snow which fell yesterday afternoon (for those dreaming of a white Christmas). I missed singing in choir, but the Martinis (begun as youth choir, and now chamber choir - pictured) were inspiring, and promising for singing going on after us. Company was small, but making talk more personal and meaningful. As they had 3 days of Christmas when Bach composed, there will be #27 December = card 4 tomorrow. I must say that I feel honored having a DYK on each of these four days, - I said in a discussion let's have hooks about things that could be presents, such as books, and that's for today: read and remember. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:41, 26 December 2021 (UTC)

Merry Christmas (and St. Stephen's Day)

 * Thank you, Joofjoof, and also to you. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:14, 26 December 2021 (UTC)

27 December
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Merry Christmas

Did you know ...

... that Herrscher des Himmels, erhöre das Lallen, a Bach cantata for the Third Day of Christmas, contains the only aria that he newly composed for the oratorio?

27 December 2021

"... dies selige Wunder ... " · read · listen

listen for magic


 * ... and the aria is "Schließe, mein Herze, dies selige Wunder fest in deinem Glauben ein!" (Enclose, my heart, these blessed miracles fast within your faith!) - listen once you have 5 minutes. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:47, 27 December 2021 (UTC)

Hi again!
Hi, Gerda. I found something that I thought might catch your interest. We have an article on Emilie Zumsteeg, a "German choral conductor, singer, composer, and pianist". While looking on the Deutsch Wikipedia (I speak basically no German, but sometimes I'll check FAs there about German subjects so I can add 'Expand German' tags to their corresponding English articles), I noticed that she was featured just a few days ago, and the article is well-sourced. You may already have seen this since I imagine you work over there as well, but in case you didn't, I wanted to bring it to the attention of the person it would seem to interest most.  TheTechnician27  (Talk page)  04:51, 16 December 2021 (UTC)
 * Technician, thank you for telling me, and I just knew her name. LouisAlain would translate today, or tomorrow, - with me, she'll have to wait for next year. I miss him much. - Beethoven's birthday today! - I heard his 4th piano concerto, part of the monster Beethoven concert of 22 December 1808. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:48, 16 December 2021 (UTC)

DYK for Fabian Kelly
Cwmhiraeth (talk) 00:02, 17 December 2021 (UTC) ... for the Vespers, see the best concert I remember to have sung (pictured)! He recently was the soloist for Rossini (the last concert I have sung), and when we delivered the Gloria in the dress rehearsal, he turned and applauded! ... and did that again on 3 October (pictured). Appreciation of others is a blessing, thank you, all, Antandrus last (above) If you want Christmas inspiration already, look at 2019, otherwise just watch this page until 27 December, the Third Day of Christmas in Bach's Leipzig. Thanks already to Mathsci for the image! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:56, 17 December 2021 (UTC)

DYK for Roland Böer
&mdash; Amakuru (talk) 12:02, 17 December 2021 (UTC) ... whom I saw recently conducting Amadigi - in the Zauberflöte cast: Maria Radner and Aga Mikolaj - saw Henze in Montepulciano - all these memories --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:41, 17 December 2021 (UTC)

DYK for Drei Motetten, Op. 39 (Mendelssohn)
— Maile (talk) 12:02, 19 December 2021 (UTC)
 * sung on the First Sunday in Advent --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:17, 19 December 2021 (UTC)

DYK for Hermann Bausinger
— Maile (talk) 12:02, 20 December 2021 (UTC)
 * I added two images, but due to being unable to read German was unable to write much about Frau Bausinger, who also seems notable, actually: https://www.gea.de/neckar-alb/kultur-in-der-region_artikel,-eine-frau-mit-format-_arid,3394586.html Even if we don't write a whole article about her, would you be able to add a few more words than just "was married to Brigitte"? --GRuban (talk) 18:04, 20 December 2021 (UTC)
 * Thank you for the images! Sadly the article about her is behind a paywall for me. Will try my luck after food but will first have to make it. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 18:17, 20 December 2021 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Edita Gruberová
The article Edita Gruberová you nominated as a good article has been placed on hold. The article is close to meeting the good article criteria, but there are some minor changes or clarifications needing to be addressed. If these are fixed within 7 days, the article will pass; otherwise it may fail. See Talk:Edita Gruberová for issues which need to be addressed. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of The Most Comfortable Chair -- The Most Comfortable Chair (talk) 07:00, 21 December 2021 (UTC)

Thank You
Thank You for your nice comment. RFD (talk) 19:59, 21 December 2021 (UTC)
 * You are welcome, RFD, and best wishes for your health, on top of the seasonal ones which will come up here on top, in case of interest. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:10, 21 December 2021 (UTC)

DYK for Kurt Rommel
Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 00:04, 22 December 2021 (UTC)

Impressive Userpage
Hello, Thank you for connecting with me. I am impressed with the work you have done and would really like to learn a lot more through this platform and meet amazing people like you, who have so much knowledge and have participated immensely. Charlette9 (talk) 14:23, 22 December 2021 (UTC)
 * Thank you, Charlette! - Go ahead, perhaps first make small corrections for topics you know well, and read. Once you want to write an article, perhaps begin in a sandbox, and I'll watch. Contact a projct or two of areas dear to you. I'll watch your talk page, in case you have more questions. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:41, 22 December 2021 (UTC)
 * Thank you, I appreciate your help and would love to work under your guidance. Charlette9 (talk) 15:33, 22 December 2021 (UTC)

Rest in peace
George Alexander Albrecht died. Please have a look on the article. I don't know exactly how much expansion it still needs for 5x expansion, but I did a lot of work already. Grimes2 (talk) 10:51, 23 December 2021 (UTC)
 * That's sad, and I was out and didn't realise yet. Will change plans, - good memories! Thank you for what you did already. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:53, 23 December 2021 (UTC)

DYK for Mass in A major, Op. 126 (Rheinberger)
— Maile (talk) 00:02, 24 December 2021 (UTC)
 * see for Christmas Eve if you celebrate --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:02, 24 December 2021 (UTC)

ITN recognition for George Alexander Albrecht

 * I don't remember how many operas I first heard conducted by him, - many. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:34, 24 December 2021 (UTC)

DYK for Ermuntre dich, mein schwacher Geist
Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 00:03, 25 December 2021 (UTC)
 * you can listen in the oratorio link, enjoy - card 2 --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:18, 25 December 2021 (UTC)
 * today's Main page is quite a gift: Beethoven sonata for TFA, Albrecht mentioned, 8 great Christmas hooks, and Mary with child as on a concert poster for the Christmas Oratorio once ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:23, 25 December 2021 (UTC)

DYK for Günther Rühle
Gatoclass (talk) 00:02, 26 December 2021 (UTC)
 * for card 3 --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:41, 26 December 2021 (UTC)

Places and songs 2021
I'm confused. Are you Catholic or Protestant? Grimes2 (talk) 18:24, 26 December 2021 (UTC)
 * I am both ;) - paying taxes Protestant, and supporting ecumenism --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:08, 26 December 2021 (UTC)
 * I made both churches in Idstein GA, and the last project Christmas oratorio was ecumenical, performed in Unionskirche, freshly restored then. Pictured on my current user page. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:15, 26 December 2021 (UTC)

FAC
Hello Gerda, I hope you had a nice vacation! I'm so sorry for constantly bothering you with my work (thank you for your edits!), but I believe it is ready for FAC. I pinged Tim riley, but he is probably very busy (maybe also due to Boxing day). Is there anything you want me to alter prior to FAC? Wretchskull (talk) 19:49, 26 December 2021 (UTC)
 * I don't see anything that needs change. Are images licensed, and have alt text, - one of the formalities? References detailed and consistently formatted, - another. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:12, 26 December 2021 (UTC)
 * Wretch, it's looking great. Do you think an image of the manuscript for the "Canone" is available anywhere online? Would be a great addition. Aza24 (talk) 20:31, 26 December 2021 (UTC)
 * Aza24 - I wish I could... I tried contacting Pedarra (Respighi's cataloguer) but I read the unfortunate news that COVID-19 took his life. I also emailed Cubisino a few months back (one of the PhD theses cited) but to no avail. Wretchskull (talk) 20:43, 26 December 2021 (UTC)

A somewhat premature New Year's greeting

 * Thank you, BoringHistoryGuy, and also to you. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:35, 26 December 2021 (UTC)

DYK for Herrscher des Himmels, erhöre das Lallen, BWV 248 III
— Maile (talk) 00:02, 27 December 2021 (UTC)
 * for card 4 --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:47, 27 December 2021 (UTC)

Canticle IV: The Journey of the Magi
The prep builder for the January 6 prep didn't promote Template:Did you know nominations/Canticle IV: The Journey of the Magi, but I managed to slot it in. I wasn't able to think of a way to add the image with so many preps filled. SL93 (talk) 03:19, 27 December 2021 (UTC)
 * Thank you, SL93, - and there was even DYKtalk that the Christmas Day image would have been better for the Magi day. On this day (27 Day), Bach would have conducted the third cantata of his Christmas Oratorio, three new works in 1734 three days in a row, and the first two even performed twice! Look above. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:47, 27 December 2021 (UTC)
 * I wasn't aware of the discussion earlier and I'm sorry that the DYK project let you down in this case. SL93 (talk) 19:47, 27 December 2021 (UTC)
 * It's fine as is, Britten doesn't look too charming on the official pic, and has nothing to do with the composition - just cute that it was close to composition time. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:56, 27 December 2021 (UTC)
 * ps: i found more disappointing that we show another white man today where we could have had Bach's handwriting, and originally it had been scheduled with image, but then we switched to one set per day. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:00, 27 December 2021 (UTC)

January 2022 with Women in Red
--Megalibrarygirl (talk) 16:02, 28 December 2021 (UTC) via MassMessaging

Draft:Frank Bayard
Hello, Gerda. Could you take a look at this draft for Frank Bayard? In my opinion he is notable enough for an article. He has one on German Wiki. What do you think? Best, Thriley (talk) 03:37, 29 December 2021 (UTC)
 * I'll look after adding to Gwendolyn Killebrew. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 05:39, 29 December 2021 (UTC)
 * Thriley, mixed thoughs: he's notable per the position - no location of birth in lead - West Germany is a sloppy name imho - no successor in succession box until he is in the position no more - better avoid brackets such as "(Austria)". fix those then submit again --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:31, 29 December 2021 (UTC)

Greetings Gerda
Greetings Gerda! I notice that both you and I have become quiet at WT:DYK lately. I'm focused on my research. I noticed this nomination (Template:Did you know nominations/Wedding of Princess Beatrix of the Netherlands and Claus van Amsberg) and thought it was something you might like to review. I hope you're doing well during the holidays! Best wishes =) Flibirigit (talk) 12:33, 29 December 2021 (UTC)
 * Look around, for four DYK on four holidays (1 2 3 4), so "quiet" seems not quite right ;) - I do more for RD now, that's right, just nominated Gwendolyn Killebrew. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:38, 29 December 2021 (UTC)

Template:User QAIbox/auto
You have used this template regarding the Precious award on User Talk pages (thank you!) but it looks a bit odd there since the template's box doesn't clear the next section on the talk page as it uses Infobox as a base. I think adding the template to this one at the end would fix this. I haven't ever used a template sandbox to test changes and I don't want to break things. What do you think? Ciridae (talk) 14:44, 29 December 2021 (UTC)
 * Ciridae, I do it on purpose, to use as little space as needed, but whoever wants that break - before or after - can easily add it. Normally, the template is the beginning of a conversation ;) - I thank RexxS for the template. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:53, 29 December 2021 (UTC)

Happy New Year!

 * Thank you, Netherzone, for wishes and image full of wunder! Let's try together - in Freundschaft - to not be afraid, - happy New Year! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:15, 31 December 2021 (UTC)
 * I'm with you, Gerda! Here's to a year free of fear and filled with wonder! Thank you for bringing so much music to the world through your work here. May your walks in the woods bring you much joy. Netherzone (talk) 15:50, 31 December 2021 (UTC)

2022 in Freundschaft
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Happy New Year

Did you know ...

... that conductor Rudolf Pohl, a member of the Aachen Cathedral choir as a boy, brought the Charlemagne-era choir to international recognition in the 1960s?

In Freundschaft

Let's make it a year of friendship! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:15, 31 December 2021 (UTC)
 * I adore sunflowers — this is wonderful! — <b style="color:#000000">The Most Comfortable</b> <b style="color:#8A2BE2">Chair</b> 07:41, 31 December 2021 (UTC)
 * Thank you, and you made my day with making Edita Gruberová a GA! There were more images in 2021, if you like! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:31, 31 December 2021 (UTC)
 * .. and also: joy to the world - that's you --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:31, 31 December 2021 (UTC)
 * Lovely orchestra, and lovely images — thank you for sharing! Joy to the World is one of my favorite carols; my partner and I have been playing it on Christmas mornings for years. Happy New Year to you! — <b style="color:#000000">The Most Comfortable</b> <b style="color:#8A2BE2">Chair</b> 11:03, 31 December 2021 (UTC)
 * thank you, how serene and clear --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:16, 31 December 2021 (UTC)

Happy New Year, Gerda Arendt!
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Happy New Year! Gerda Arendt, Have a prosperous, productive and enjoyable New Year, and thanks for your contributions to Wikipedia.

Abishe (talk) 12:53, 31 December 2021 (UTC)


 * thank you, talk, and also to you, - my card is just above. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:56, 31 December 2021 (UTC)

Happy New Year, Gerda
Guten Rutsch. Grimes2 (talk) 13:13, 31 December 2021 (UTC)
 * Danke, Grimes2, and help yourself to joy to the world - this is to merry collaboration continued! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:24, 31 December 2021 (UTC)
 * Happy New Year from me as well, Gerda. You've lit up my day on so many occasion this past year, thank you!


 * behütet und getröstet wunderbar,
 * so will ich diese Tage mit euch leben
 * und mit euch gehen in ein neues Jahr.
 * — Bonhoeffer
 * the best! – Finnusertop (talk ⋅ contribs) 12:31, 1 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Thank you, Finnusertop, "Von guten Mächten" is one of my better productions, soo meaningful. - In friendship, hopefully to continue - DYK that I release de:In Freundschaft today? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:40, 1 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Coincidentally, if such things exist, fi:Hyvyyden voiman ihmeelliseen suojaan is one of my favourite contributions as well, and the hymn deeply important on a personal level (the Finnish version uses a different tune, by Erkki Melartin, that I find sublime). New Year's resolution: read more about Stockhausen and try to listen without getting a headache! – Finnusertop (talk ⋅ contribs) 12:57, 1 January 2022 (UTC)
 * I believe that In Freundschaft would be a good start. Read - for background - . While I never met Stockhausen and Jerome in person, I feel privileged to have been a friend of the bassoonist mentioned, - few meetings but memorable. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:22, 1 January 2022 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

 * (blushing) thank you, Wretchskull, and also a happy new year to you! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:00, 31 December 2021 (UTC)