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GA Review: Ingeborg Steinholt
finished --TIAYN (talk) 14:40, 9 December 2009 (UTC)

Orphaned non-free image File:LeifTronstad.jpg
Thanks for uploading File:LeifTronstad.jpg. The image description page currently specifies that the image is non-free and may only be used on Wikipedia under a claim of fair use. However, the image is currently orphaned, meaning that it is not used in any articles on Wikipedia. Thank you. Fari 05:40, 13 December 2009 (UTC)

Latest replies
Hi G. For the Bel Pamela, I don't immediately know anything about her, but I might be able to did something up from my library, especially since she came under air attack. And sorry for not fixing the Norwegian WP iw link to Stormoen, I just as a rule never do anything over at Norwegian WP. Manxruler (talk) 16:59, 13 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Good, since we need you over here :) Geschichte (talk) 17:01, 13 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Yeah, I suspect I'd get a peptic ulcer over at NWP. Anyways, having the month is good enough. I seem to recall reading about some air attacks in the Sandefjord area that month. The second attack you mention, did that also happen in April? Manxruler (talk) 17:49, 13 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Oh, well. At least we know it was in the Kristiansand area, and in 1945. That should do just fine. I'll look into it today. Manxruler (talk) 05:44, 15 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Yes. Results. The attack was on Framnæs Mekaniske Værksted on 2 April 1945. The 3,165 ton Belpamela (that's the way the name is spelled in my sources) was hit repeatedly when the shipyard and surrounding areas came under attack from rocket-firing Mosquitoes. I shall look for more info, and add the relevant bits. Also found some web sources. Plenty of info, although the web doesn't say anything about the air attacks or sabotage. She was a Norwegian ship, btw. Manxruler (talk) 07:26, 15 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Norwegian, yes, but stolen/confiscated by Germany I reckon? Geschichte (talk) 08:12, 15 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Well, in the manner that she sailed with for the Germans, yes. She did however retain her Norwegian crew. Of course, this was the case with much of the Norwegian Home Fleet. Manxruler (talk) 11:24, 15 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Oh, and I couldn't find anything on a Kristiansand attack involving Belpamela in 1945. Manxruler (talk) 11:37, 15 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Yes, that would make sense. I'll look into it once I get from my vacation in 8 days time or so. Got access to some book on the merchant navy. Btw, once I get ample time, I intend to write an article on the Home Fleet. We've got one on Nortraship, there's an absolute need for one on the Home Fleet as well. Manxruler (talk) 19:44, 22 December 2009 (UTC)

WikiProject banners
I have just reinstated the WikiProject Ireland banner which you removed from Talk:Joseph Ndo, with an edit summary which said only "reassess" and gave no indication of the removal. Please don't remove a wikiproject banner without explaining why you have done so. -- Brown HairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 13:06, 15 December 2009 (UTC)

Ivar Mathisen
Hi Geschichte. Unfortunately, it is true. His date of death is listed in the Olympedia database, which is only accessible to members, and should be available to everyone in a month or so when this site updates its information based on the database. So I suppose the reversion can stay for now if the members-only site falls WP:OR, but eventually the source will be located here. Cheers, CP 16:48, 15 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Well, if you provide a source there we could always replace it with Sports-Reference later. But "per no Wikipedia" was not solid enough. Geschichte (talk) 13:09, 19 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Sports Reference now has his date of death on their website. Does that work? Cheers, CP 06:47, 21 January 2010 (UTC)

Re
Thank you! Skäpperöd (talk) 05:33, 17 December 2009 (UTC)

January 1985 Arctic outbreak
Hi. I see you've added a globalize template to this article. Although it's already been removed, I just wanted to note that the article is explicitly about an American event, which is clear after just a bit of investigation. Could you please be a bit more careful when tagging articles? Best regards, – Juliancolton  &#124; Talk 22:24, 18 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Hej. Der er ikke behov for globaliseringen. Begivenheden var nyhedsinteresse på grund af dens effekt i USA alene. Mike H. Fierce! 22:25, 18 December 2009 (UTC)

Bull-Hansen
Hey, you removed an external link I added to the Bull-Hansen article. I added that link because the page has an image, and there is no image of him at commons / in the article. I thus regard the link valuable for the article. Best Skäpperöd (talk) 08:04, 21 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Fair enough, the image is ok. But the text in the link is not good. It just copies (the four-volume work) Våre falne ("Unsere Gefallene"), but in an undetailed and confusing way. For instance there is no such place as "Var Frelsers Memorial". Also, the reader might think that the link is an authoritative source for his departure to Sweden, when literature in fact gives two different dates. Geschichte (talk) 08:16, 21 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Then it is probably better to not have the link, seems like I didn't read close enough - I was just looking for an image. And for (c) reasons, I didn't dare to extract the image to commons and linked the site instead. Regards Skäpperöd (talk) 08:57, 21 December 2009 (UTC)
 * It seems that images from Våre falne are indeed permissible for upload - see for instance File:Odd_Kjell_Starheim.jpg. Geschichte (talk) 22:39, 10 January 2010 (UTC)

Merry Christmas
Hey Punkmorten. :) I wish you Merry and Blessed Christmas. Have a great, happy and peaceful time, my friend, and a productive 2010. - Darwinek (talk) 16:30, 23 December 2009 (UTC)

RE: Template:Red
I will remove them. --TIAYN (talk) 12:08, 29 December 2009 (UTC)

Norsk krigsleksikon moved
Hey G. Just thought I'd mention that Norsk krigsleksikon 1940-45 has moved it's url, just in case you hadn't been told yet. instead of www.norgeslexi.com, it's now mediabase1.uib.no. The main page is now here. I've fixed a number of the references to the encyclopaedia, but I huess we've got hundreds of articles that cite NKL... Manxruler (talk) 15:54, 29 December 2009 (UTC)
 * I'll have a look at this. It looks like an easy task to do with WP:AWB. Rettetast (talk) 16:10, 29 December 2009 (UTC)
 * All done. Rettetast (talk)

The 2010 WikiCup begins tomorrow!
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Signature of Amaldus Nielsen
Hei Geschichte, I uploaded a picture of the signature of Amaldus Nielsen. Unfortunately I can't add it in the infobox of the article because Template:Infobox artist doesn't have a signature parameter. So I started a discussion here. Your comment would be useful.--MaximilianT (talk) 18:21, 1 January 2010 (UTC)
 * I'm not convinced of the encyclopedic value of the signature. Geschichte (talk) 23:32, 2 January 2010 (UTC)

Thorleif Karlsen's father
Hey G. Just read the Thorleif Karlsen article and was left wondering: Who was Thorleif Karlsen's father? As an NS co-founder he deserves an article at some point. Manxruler (talk) 14:46, 2 January 2010 (UTC)


 * It was Politioverbetjent Karl Oscar Karlsen (1882–1958), according to this. I didn't know that TK had an NBL entry, but I thought I'd add from it later. Geschichte (talk) 19:40, 2 January 2010 (UTC)


 * Sounds good. Manxruler (talk) 20:16, 2 January 2010 (UTC)


 * I didn't find anything about KOK on Atekst. Geschichte (talk) 23:32, 2 January 2010 (UTC)

Urda Arneberg
Nice work on expanding the article! All the best for 2010.  Lugnuts  (talk) 14:39, 5 January 2010 (UTC)
 * I didn't even know the article was new. I just came across it because Jacob Neumann edited a magazine called Urda. Cool, huh. Geschichte (talk) 14:41, 5 January 2010 (UTC)

re:Norman Lind
Hey G. Happy New Year. Can't recall reading about Norman Lind, but he might be in my book collection somewhere, interesting chap. Will look into it as soon as I have sufficient time. Maybe tomorrow. Manxruler (talk) 20:31, 5 January 2010 (UTC)

re:"Gulosten"
Perhaps. That would be very nice. Going for DYK first, then sure, why not try for GAN. Been fascinated by Andersen's story for years, about time I started work on his article. Manxruler (talk) 21:08, 15 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Yes, that's probably an idea. Should work on the lead, would appreciate some help with that. With regards to bibliography, I'm not sure what else there is to list. A native English speaker should definitely do a copy-edit, I always find that very positive for articles. I've looked around for an image, thus far found none. Thanks again for the good help. Manxruler (talk) 00:54, 19 January 2010 (UTC)
 * By the way, could you check Dagbladet in 1955, c. August-September for Andersen's conviction for selling denatured alcohol (denaturert sprit)? He was sentenced to 36 days in prison by Oslo forhørsrett. Manxruler (talk) 07:23, 19 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Yes, I believe that would be permissible, seeing as the subject has been dead for almost 30 years and no free versions are likely to be available. If you could take care of that, then that would be excellent. Manxruler (talk) 09:06, 19 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Yes, of course you can. I'll get on that as soon as I can, just need to get that e-mail up and running first. I would personally prefer a 1940s image, as that was the time the most dramatic things in his life occurred. Manxruler (talk) 16:26, 19 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Still working on getting that email enabled, is experiencing some difficulties, will look at it again tomorrow. Cheers. Manxruler (talk) 20:41, 19 January 2010 (UTC)
 * E-mail now functional. Manxruler (talk) 08:35, 20 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the newspaper articles. I'm sure they will prove useful. How do we go about extracting an image of "Gulosten" from one of the articles available? Manxruler (talk) 06:26, 21 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Yeah. I was thinking about doing that. Although I'm sort of on the verge of wiki-breaking for a long while. Have got real life work to get done before the summer. I suppose that it wouldn't be proper to be absent after nominating an article for GA. Kinda of unsure what to do, really. Manxruler (talk) 09:21, 19 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Well, that would be awfully kind. I also suppose that I might be able to keep an eye out on the nom and then come back temporarily once it's reviewed, depending on how well my studies are going at that point. I'm planning on having a week or two break from my studies in, say, April anyway. Ah, why not? I'll try and see if I can get it nominated today. Cheers. Manxruler (talk) 13:13, 19 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Hi G. Nominated the article over at WP:GAC some hours ago and just declared the start of my Wikibreak. Thanks for keeping an eye out for the nom. I shall drop by fairly regularly to check on the progress of things, and try and help out when the reviewing starts, unless I'm actually having my exams at the moment in question. I think we've all done a pretty good job writing Gulosten's article. Manxruler (talk) 02:28, 21 February 2010 (UTC)

Barnstar
You are welcome. Chris (talk) 14:32, 21 January 2010 (UTC)

Assessment of Patrick Deneen
Hi Geschichte, thanks for the assessment of the Patrick Deneen article I recently wrote. I was wondering if you could let me know what improvements could be made to bring the article from C-class to B-class. It seems to be close to the B criteria (in my admittedly biased opinion), so any brief suggestions you have would be much appreciated. Wine Guy  Talk  20:17, 23 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Thanks for your suggestions and infobox tweaks. Wine Guy   Talk  23:19, 23 January 2010 (UTC)

Unreferenced BLPs
Hello Geschichte! Thank you for your contributions. I am a bot alerting you that 197 of the articles that you created  are tagged as Unreferenced Biographies of Living Persons. The biographies of living persons policy requires that all personal or potentially controversial information be sourced. In addition, to ensure verifiability, all biographies should be based on reliable sources. If you were to bring these articles up to standards, it would greatly help us with the current Category:All_unreferenced_BLPs article backlog. Once the articles are adequately referenced, please remove the unreferencedBLP tag. Here is the list:


 * 13. Natalya Fokina-Semenova
 * 17. Yimenashu Taye
 * 19. Alejandro Cárdenas
 * 20. Jane Wanjiku
 * 26. Nasserredine Fillali
 * 27. Davis Mwale
 * 28. Bongani Mahlangu
 * 29. Hadj Belkheir
 * 30. Benedicta Ajudua
 * 32. Nadia Dandolo
 * 33. Andrey Plotnikov
 * 34. Orlando Bianchini
 * 35. Pål Strand
 * 36. Francis Naali
 * 39. Sergey Senyukov
 * 40. Sergey Budalov
 * 41. Mariusz Klimczyk
 * 42. Tonino Viali
 * 43. Marina Shmonina
 * 45. Aleksandr Goremykin
 * 46. Ma Yuqin
 * 47. Andrea Blackett
 * 49. Kyoko Hamaguchi
 * 51. Dmitriy Bagryanov
 * 52. Bernard Lamitié
 * 53. Andrzej Sontag
 * 54. Michał Joachimowski
 * 55. Viktor Myasnikov
 * 56. Nikolay Kolesnikov
 * 57. Milada Karbanová
 * 58. Urszula Kielan
 * 59. Anatoliy Piskulin
 * 60. Aleksandr Fedotkin
 * 61. Vladimir Tsepelyov
 * 62. Karoline Käfer
 * 63. Sofka Popova
 * 64. Karin Hänel
 * 65. Lucyna Langer-Kałek
 * 66. Janusz Trzepizur
 * 67. Tatyana Anisimova
 * 68. András Paróczai
 * 69. Vladimir Trofimenko
 * 70. Aleksandr Krupskiy
 * 71. Nikolay Musiyenko
 * 72. Marianne Adam
 * 74. Fritz Künzli
 * 75. Zsuzsanna Jánosi
 * 76. Katalin Tuschák
 * 77. Edit Kovács
 * 78. Magda Maros
 * 79. Rudolf Nébald
 * 80. Ferenc Hammang
 * 81. Imre Gedővári
 * 82. László Csongrádi
 * 83. József Navarrete
 * 84. Csaba Köves
 * 85. György Nébald
 * 86. Imre Bujdosó
 * 87. Gábor Totola
 * 88. Ferenc Hegedűs
 * 89. Géza Imre
 * 90. Iván Kovács
 * 91. Krisztián Kulcsár
 * 92. Gábor Boczkó
 * 93. Alexei Diatchenko
 * 94. Alexey Yakimenko
 * 95. Odd Berg
 * 97. Birutė Šakickienė
 * 98. Kristina Poplavskaja
 * 100. Hong Sung-Sik
 * 101. Lee Jae-Hyuk
 * 102. Li Byong-Uk
 * 103. Sixto Soria
 * 104. Armando Martínez
 * 105. Juan Carlos Lemus
 * 106. Tatyana Lesovaya
 * 107. Li Chunxiu
 * 108. Gennadiy Chernovol
 * 109. Amadou Gakou
 * 110. Eva Murková
 * 111. Talal Mansour
 * 112. Pyotr Bochkaryov
 * 113. Raimonds Vējonis
 * 114. Prince Amartey
 * 115. Mohamed Zaoui
 * 116. Ileana Salvador
 * 117. Maurizio Damilano
 * 118. Daniel Plaza
 * 119. Tatyana Skachko
 * 120. Ivanka Hristova
 * 121. Nasrollah Abdollahi
 * 122. Yekaterina Podkopayeva
 * 123. Charles Friedek
 * 124. Marilyn Black
 * 125. Norma Croker
 * 126. Lidia Simon
 * 127. Valeria Bufanu
 * 128. Ileana Silai
 * 129. Cristeana Cojocaru
 * 130. Margareta Keszeg
 * 131. Lázaro Betancourt
 * 132. Nikolina Shtereva
 * 133. Ginka Zagorcheva
 * 134. Igor Lapshin
 * 135. Mario Guilloti
 * 136. Jan Jönsson
 * 137. Arthémon Hatungimana
 * 138. Tim Forsyth
 * 139. Arkhom Chenglai
 * 140. Dhawee Umponmaha
 * 141. Ri Yong-Sam
 * 142. Aleksandr Pavlov
 * 143. Valeriy Tsilent
 * 144. Sergey Lishtvan
 * 145. Nergüin Enkhbat
 * 146. Mihai Cioc
 * 147. Mircea Frăţică
 * 148. Yurisleidy Lupetey
 * 149. Anatoly Laryukov
 * 150. Giorgi Vazagashvili
 * 151. Diadenis Luna
 * 152. Kjell Kaspersen
 * 153. Hermes Ramírez
 * 154. Lázár Lovász
 * 155. Faith Idehen
 * 156. Fulgencia Romay
 * 157. Miguelina Cobián
 * 158. Violetta Quesada
 * 159. Carmen Valdés
 * 160. Fiţa Lovin
 * 161. Silvia Chivás
 * 162. María Quintanal
 * 165. Nikolaos Siranidis
 * 166. Thomas Bimis
 * 167. Tan Xue
 * 168. Vladislav Tretiak (fencer)
 * 169. Marcel Fischer
 * 171. Yksel Osmanovski
 * 172. Tatsiana Stukalava
 * 173. Kenji Inoue
 * 174. Chiharu Icho
 * 175. Anna Gomis
 * 176. Chikara Tanabe
 * 177. Mohotti Kwawansha
 * 178. Dmitry Debelka
 * 179. Kang Yong-Gyun
 * 180. Islam Bairamukov
 * 181. Elvīra Ozoliņa
 * 182. Vitalie Gruşac
 * 183. Nasser Al Shami
 * 184. Suriya Prasathinphimai
 * 185. Serik Yeleuov
 * 186. Ramaz Nozadze
 * 187. Mkhitar Manukyan
 * 188. Gennadiy Laliyev
 * 189. Georgiy Tsurtsumia
 * 190. Alexandr Dokturishvili
 * 191. Michael Anti (sport shooter)
 * 192. Petter Rudi
 * 193. Ladji Doucouré
 * 194. Johan J. Jakobsen
 * 195. Odd Roger Enoksen
 * 196. Marit Arnstad

Thanks!--DASHBot (talk) 11:34, 25 January 2010 (UTC)

GA Review: Erling Folkvord
Something else that needs fixing? --TIAYN (talk) 18:37, 29 January 2010 (UTC)

Happy Geschichte's Day!
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WikiCup 2010 January newsletter
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Olsson
What makes Claes Joachim Olsson a notable biography? ‡ Himalayan ‡ ΨMonastery 19:38, 2 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Nothing. Thanks for spotting. Geschichte (talk) 22:18, 2 February 2010 (UTC)

Cyrillic
Hi there and thanks for writing these articles. I've inserted the names in Bulgarian Cyrillic. Best, Todor→Bozhinov 11:02, 5 February 2010 (UTC)
 * You're welcome :) And yes, your transliteration of Stefka Yordanova's name is fully correct, good work! Todor→Bozhinov 12:11, 5 February 2010 (UTC)

Thanks
Hey Geschichte. I just want to thank you for all the adjustments you make to my new articles. Jeg setter pris på det! :)  The left orium  15:30, 6 February 2010 (UTC)

Move
Hi. Any possibility of moving the current Lade Airport to Trondheim Airport, Lade (just delete the latter, it's fully redundant to the content at Lade Airport) and then making 'Lade Airport' a redirect. If there is some process or board where requests for this thing can be asked for, just let met know. Thanks, Arsenikk (talk)  12:40, 7 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Done. Another question: should smaller airports like no:Ringebu flyplass, Frya be added? Geschichte (talk) 13:50, 7 February 2010 (UTC)
 * I would think adding such airports is fine. For North America, every farm with an air field seems to have an article (see for instance Gang Ranch Airport and Category:British Columbia airport stubs. British Columbia has a population smaller than Norway, but has 212 airport stubs. As a rule of thumb, I think any airport with an ICAO airport code would be addable, but smaller aerodromes such as helipads might not. Arsenikk (talk)  14:21, 7 February 2010 (UTC)

Fair use rationale
Thanks for uploading File:Nitro1.gif and File:Slayerscr.png. I notice the file page specifies that the file is being used under fair use but there is not a suitable explanation or rationale as to why each specific use in Wikipedia constitutes fair use. Sfan00 IMG (talk) 11:06, 9 February 2010 (UTC)

Nord-Bindalen & Sør-Bindalen
I re-wrote both articles citing sources, and put the quotes in the footnotes. Bokmål Wikipedia had an important clue, that the border between counties was moved and the community divided at the time of the Peace of Roskilde, and that enabled me to find a source to document the splitting. Since the split predates the creation of formannskapsdistrikter, plus it was a rural area, I don't think there are going to be any sources referring to them as municipalities until they got combined as a herred in 1853. But if I've got anything wrong, please point it out; I also hope you can find hard-copy sources to bridge any reference gaps that you may still be able to see. That was a fun paper-chase, and I think I just added a bit to public knowledge as well as increasing my Norwegian knowledge! . . . And I went ahead and moved the articles to match how the sources unanimously write the 2 placenames, and changed the stub template for Sør-Bindalen to the correct county. Actually I am not sure they are stubs any more. Since the deletion discussion was closed as no-consensus while I was working on the rewrites, if you do have any concerns, let's continue here or on a talk-page. Yngvadottir (talk) 22:37, 9 February 2010 (UTC)
 * It seems good now. Re: "any sources referring to them as municipalities until they got combined", I still hold my view regarding statistics hosted by University of Tromsø as well as the Statistics Norway paper. But let's not spend more time on that issue than necessary. Geschichte (talk) 22:39, 9 February 2010 (UTC)

Hiding
I just saw your edit summary comment at Otto Sverdrup; the reason for hiding the references were that they were disorganized and ugly, and of unclear relevance. They can probably be visible again, but under a heading "Further reading". It's very unclear whether they were used as references. Geschichte (talk) 13:37, 12 February 2010 (UTC)
 * First: I appreciate your good additions to this article. I've been interested in Sverdrup's feats for some time. As for the "disorganized and ugly" references, that is a matter of opinion, and in my opinion I consider it added value. And yes, some of these were used as actual references (e.g. Gerald Kenny). Nevertheless, I would support your idea of a "Further reading" heading. -- P 1 9 9 • TALK 13:51, 12 February 2010 (UTC)

Kristian Welhaven radio messages
Hi G. Could you elaborate a little on what Welhaven meant with "irregular fighting"? A quote from the source perhaps? Manxruler (talk) 18:09, 16 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Cheers. Do you agree with my interpretation of the source text? Manxruler (talk) 18:46, 16 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Seems ok. The book also says: "Man mente å kjenne til tilfeller av at vanlige folk ut over landet som ikke kjente Haagkonvensjonen eller visste hva ordet 'franktirør' betydde, instinktivt tok børsa og skjøt på tyskerne når de dro forbi. Denne opptredenen ble sagt å kvalifisere for tysk standrett og henrettelse". Geschichte (talk) 18:57, 16 February 2010 (UTC)

Rollback
Hi. I seem to have lost my rollback rights (don't ask me how or when). Any possibility of getting them back? Thanks, Arsenikk (talk)  11:52, 23 February 2010 (UTC)
 * I added it again. Rettetast (talk) 12:21, 23 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Thanks Rettetast. Arsenikk (talk)  23:19, 23 February 2010 (UTC)

Final discussion for Requests for comment/Biographies of living people
Hello, I note that you have commented on the first phase of Requests for comment/Biographies of living people

As this RFC closes, there are two proposals being considered:
 * 1) Proposal to Close This RfC
 * 2) Alternate proposal to close this RFC: we don't need a whole new layer of bureaucracy

Your opinion on this is welcome. Okip  02:18, 24 February 2010 (UTC)

DYK

 * Sorry about that! Staxringold talkcontribs 22:57, 17 February 2010 (UTC)

DePROD List of Armenian footballers
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Talkback
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WikiCup 2010 February newsletter
Round one is over, and round two has begun! Congratulations to the 64 contestants who have made it through, but well done and thank you to all contestants who took part in our first round. A special well done goes to, our round one winner (1010 points), and to and , who were second and third respectively (640 points/605 points). Sasata was awarded the most points for both good articles (300 points) and featured articles (600 points), and TonyTheTiger was awarded the most for featured topics (225 points), while Hunter Kahn claimed the most for good topics (70). claimed the most featured lists (240 points) and featured pictures (35 points), claimed the most for Did you know? entries (490 points),  claimed the most for featured sounds (70 points) and  claimed the most for In the news entries (40 points). No one claimed a featured portal or valued picture.

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AfD nomination of Tarald Osnes Brautaset
An editor has nominated one or more articles which you have created or worked on, for deletion. The nominated article is Tarald Osnes Brautaset. --Erwin85Bot (talk) 01:12, 1 March 2010 (UTC)

Kidane Tad...eh? say what?
I've explained what's going on with Kidane Tadese's name on the article. I don't think it's right to move the article yet because he is still overwhelmingly called the wrong name – whether that be Tadasse or Tadesse – unless they have different but similarly named fathers (which can't be ruled out all together!). I suppose one of the problems with less famous non-Western runners is that their names can be rendered in many different ways, making it hard for athletics fans like ourselves! Oh well... Sillyfolkboy (talk) (edits) <sup style="color:#0B7C08;">Join WikiProject Athletics!  14:42, 1 March 2010 (UTC)

Meike Kröger
Good work! I was thinking about using the Bishkek orphanage thing for a DYK myself but decided against because the source was in German and I didn't want to misrepresent things.

The thing with the AchievementTable idea was basically to provide a way of both standardising competition record sections while making things easier for novice users. I agree that most templates are complex and make life more difficult for the majority of users (I can't believe that some people actually proposed using templates on every single date in wikipedia just for that auto US/International date option!). However, when it comes to tables and wiki html then I find that the bare code can be often more confusing than a simple template (hence my extensive documentation/tutorial on the template page). I remember when I first started editing how I was confused by all the code and citation templates etc.

In my opinion, the sooner that wikipedia gets an easy-to-use interface the better. If citations could be expanded and contracted by clicking a numbered citation link in the edit window then I think people would find reading and editing Wikipedia ten times easier. What are your thoughts about such templates? Do you prefer the table code? I always try to cater for both readers and editors where possible. Sillyfolkboy (talk) (edits) <sup style="color:#0B7C08;">Join WikiProject Athletics!  19:19, 1 March 2010 (UTC)
 * In fact, this user seems to come to similar conclusions about templates as I have in many respects. Sillyfolkboy (talk) (edits) <sup style="color:#0B7C08;">Join WikiProject Athletics!  19:44, 1 March 2010 (UTC)
 * I love citation templates, and some other templates. Tables, on the other hand, should often be avoided altogether. Geschichte (talk) 07:11, 2 March 2010 (UTC)
 * I've moved conversation to the WikiProject if you wish to comment.
 * On templates in general, I suppose that my opinion is that templates should only be used for (a) enabling novice users to do complex things in a simplified manner (infoboxes/ranked medal tallys/tables etc) or (b) navigational purposes. I can't really think of much outside of those two main ideas, besides rare exceptions like the transclusion of long tables (e.g. Olympic calendars). I guess that whether citation templates fall into the first category, or not, is a subjective matter.


 * I think tables can occasionally offer a quick summary when a full description would be a prohibitive option: the World Championships in Athletics medal tables are a good example, leading off into their own sub-articles. In fact, adding prose to results pages like this one is an ambitious target of mine! Sillyfolkboy (talk) (edits) <sup style="color:#0B7C08;">Join WikiProject Athletics!  16:11, 2 March 2010 (UTC)

DYK nom
Hi Geschichte, can I ask you a favor?

I will be away for some time. Would you be able to check on the DYK nom for Ola Bauer, and fix it if some minor problem were to prevent it from being approved? (talk) 20:43, 6 March 2010 (UTC)
 * OK. Geschichte (talk) 20:53, 6 March 2010 (UTC)

FYI: DYK for Elarbi Khattabi
FYI: I took a peek at Elarbi Khattabi for the DYK nom. The references on the medals are all archived links from what appears to be a defunct web site. This is ok, except that the original web site appears to have been a self-published site (home page, Author's resume). So it is really not a reliable source as far as I see. --Mcorazao (talk) 22:24, 6 March 2010 (UTC)

Ships and Wikiprojects covering countries
Re your tagging of SS Ragnhild with WP Norway - while not disagreeing with this tag, the ship also operated for the UK, Finland and Sweden, so it would seem logical to tag the article with the Wikiprojects covering those countries.

However, for some reason most ship articles do not get tagged with country Wikiprojects. I'm not sure why. The problem is that raising the issue with every country's WP and WP:SHIPS is going to generate more than a few square metres of text. Such a discussion would need to be in a centralised area, probably as a sub-page of WT:SHIPS. What do you think of the idea of raising such a discussion and notifying all countries WPs? Mjroots (talk) 07:34, 9 March 2010 (UTC)
 * I tagged it because the article name is from the "Norwegian period" of the ship. About the discussion I don't know - would we notify all shipping countries in the world? Geschichte (talk) 13:17, 9 March 2010 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of Rolv Petter Amdam
The article Rolv Petter Amdam has been proposed for deletion. Abductive (reasoning) 04:01, 11 March 2010 (UTC)

DYK
Yes it is a go, the "verify" tag stands, the user who commented simply confirmed that being slightly over the five day limit is fine.--Supertouch (talk) 21:28, 11 March 2010 (UTC)
 * The user who commented was you, and there has been no verify tag yet. Geschichte (talk) 21:31, 12 March 2010 (UTC)

Redundant categories
Hi there! Thanks for your message. I have replied on my Talk page.--Plad2 (talk) 08:19, 14 March 2010 (UTC)

Norway Ice Hockey task force
Hi again, Geschichte... I've recently created Norway Ice Hockey task force, and was wondering if you were willing to sign up for it? I've already assessed almost all of the Norway-related ice hockey articles, but we need more members in the task force to update the template, and get statistics on how many stub-, start-, list-, etc. class articles we have... Hope you will join! =) Take care. lil2mas (talk) 00:16, 16 March 2010 (UTC)

AfD nomination of Steven Vidler (judoka)
An editor has nominated one or more articles which you have created or worked on, for deletion. The nominated article is Steven Vidler (judoka). --Erwin85Bot (talk) 01:08, 17 March 2010 (UTC)

Medicinernes Skiklub Svartor
Hello. I am contacting you because you are listed as a participant for WikiProject Norway, and the above-mentioned article is sourced by all Norwegian-language references. Moreover, the references do not appear to support notability; they might be mere trivial references to the subject. Since these sources are all offline, and I do not speak or read Norwegian, I'm hoping whether you can assist me in determining whether the article qualifies for speedy deletion. Many thanks! - CobaltBlueTony™ talk 12:31, 18 March 2010 (UTC)
 * The sources are offline, but not readily available. Geschichte (talk) 21:57, 20 March 2010 (UTC)

re: Jarle Wee
Thank you so much for referencing this article and re-writing it to establish notability. I'm embarrassed that I didn't check carefully enough to see that he played in the Norwegian top flight before I proposed deletion. Best regards. Jogurney (talk) 02:44, 20 March 2010 (UTC)

RE:Source
Hi. I was using the info from the Ukrainian athletics federation's site but the file itself is in cyrilic only, so you probably won't find it very useful. However, you can find most of the national records here. Hope it helps. Pietaster (talk) 22:11, 20 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Sure, here it is. Cheers. Pietaster (talk) 22:41, 20 March 2010 (UTC)