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DYK
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re:Source question
I'm not sure what to say. Personally, I avoid Folk og Land completely as I do not consider myself fully able to distinguish between the propaganda, and what might be valid info. The things that can be found in other sources might be best to just source from those. I just wouldn't use Folk og Land, but it's up to you. Manxruler (talk) 00:13, 24 July 2010 (UTC)

AIF
Thanks for the expansion and fixes in the AIF article. Actually, I started the article after having come across the article IL Stålkameratene that you created. --Soman (talk) 15:53, 25 July 2010 (UTC)

WikiCup 2010 July newsletter
We are half-way through our penultimate round, and nothing is yet certain. Pool A, currently led by has ended up the more competitive, with three contestants (,  and ) scoring over 500 points already. Pool B is led by, who has also scored well over 500. The top two from each pool, as well as the next four highest scorers regardless of pool, will make it through to our final eight. As ever, anything you worry may not receive the necessary attention before the end of the round (such as outstanding GA or FA nominations) is welcome at WikiCup/Reviews, and please remember to continue offering reviews yourself where possible. As always, the judges are available to contact via email, IRC or their talk pages, and general discussion about the Cup is welcome on the WikiCup talk page.

Planning has begun for the 2011 WikiCup, with open discussions concerning scoring and flags for next year's competition. Contributions to those discussions would be appreciated, especially concerning the flags, as next year's signups cannot begin until the flag issue has been resolved. Signups will hopefully open at some point in this round, with discussion about possible changing in the scoring/process opening some time afterwards.

Earlier this round, we said goodbye to, who has bowed out to spend more time on the book he is authoring with his wife. We wish him all the best. In other news, the start of this round also saw some WikiCup awards sent out by. We appreciate his enthusiasm, and contestants are of course welcome to award each other prizes as they see fit, but rest assured that we will be sending out "official" awards at the end of the competition. If you wish to start receiving or stop receiving this newsletter, please feel free to add or remove yourself from WikiCup/Newsletter/Send. J Milburn, Fox and The ed17 22:39, 31 July 2010 (UTC)

DYK
The DYK project (nominate) 00:02, 4 August 2010 (UTC)

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The DYK project (nominate) 06:04, 6 August 2010 (UTC)

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Courcelles 18:03, 14 August 2010 (UTC)

Courcelles 18:03, 14 August 2010 (UTC)

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Courcelles 12:03, 19 August 2010 (UTC)

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The DYK project (nominate) 06:02, 22 August 2010 (UTC)

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The DYK project (nominate) 00:04, 23 August 2010 (UTC)

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The DYK project (nominate) 06:03, 24 August 2010 (UTC)

The DYK project (nominate) 06:03, 24 August 2010 (UTC)

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The DYK project (nominate) 06:03, 25 August 2010 (UTC)

Calmer  Waters  18:03, 26 August 2010 (UTC)

Calmer  Waters  18:03, 26 August 2010 (UTC)

The DYK project (nominate) 00:03, 28 August 2010 (UTC)

Unreferenced BLPs
Hello Geschichte! Thank you for your contributions. I am a bot notifying you on behalf of the the unreferenced biographies team that 36 of the articles that you created  are currently tagged as Unreferenced Biographies of Living Persons. The biographies of living persons policy requires that all personal or potentially controversial information be sourced. In addition, to ensure verifiability, all biographies should be based on reliable sources. If you were to bring these articles up to standards, it would greatly help us with the current Category:All_unreferenced_BLPs article backlog. Once the articles are adequately referenced, please remove the unreferencedBLP tag. Here is the list:


 * 1) Prince Amartey -
 * 2) Hadj Belkheir -
 * 3) Nasserredine Fillali -
 * 4) Bongani Mahlangu -
 * 5) Davis Mwale -
 * 6) Ma Yuqin -
 * 7) Tan Xue -
 * 8) Kenji Inoue -
 * 9) Chikara Tanabe -
 * 10) Islam Bairamukov -


 * 11. Kang Yong-Gyun
 * 12. Ri Yong-Sam
 * 13. Sixto Soria
 * 14. Sergey Lishtvan
 * 15. Anna Gomis
 * 16. Chiharu Icho
 * 17. Odd Berg
 * 18. Vladimir Trofimenko
 * 19. Vladimir Tsepelyov
 * 20. Kyoko Hamaguchi
 * 21. Johan J. Jakobsen
 * 22. Mariusz Klimczyk
 * 23. Yimenashu Taye
 * 24. Alexey Yakimenko
 * 25. Kristina Poplavskaja
 * 26. Johan Henrik Schreiner
 * 27. Giorgi Nemsadze
 * 28. Hicham Bouaouiche
 * 29. Michele Benedetti (diver)
 * 30. Christian Grascha
 * 31. Silke Lichtenhagen
 * 32. Stefan Birkner
 * 33. Nebiat Habtemariam
 * 34. Georg Damjanoff
 * 35. Anatoly Piskulin

Thanks!--DASHBot (talk) 04:39, 19 August 2010 (UTC)

Progress Party (Norway)
You may be interested in participating in improvements to Progress Party (Norway), based on the latest GA review that I have commenced here: Talk:Progress Party (Norway)/GA2. hamiltonstone (talk) 00:54, 25 August 2010 (UTC)

Your Nansen edits
You are wrong in your assertion, via edit summary, that a non-royal person cannot be a Viceroy. The word means someone, royal or not, acting in the king's name as governor of a colony or territory. It is the word used in the source, and I have restored it. Thank you for your interest in the article; other suggestions for improvement are welcome, but can you please use the article's talkpage rather than the brief edit summary space, as a means of explaining your edits? Thank you. Brianboulton (talk) 18:16, 28 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Have you even looked at Governor-general of Norway? As for the talk page, I spent quite some time on that already, did it work? Geschichte (talk) 20:24, 28 August 2010 (UTC)

WikiCup 2010 August newsletter
We have our final eight! The best of luck to those who remain. A bumper newsletter this week as we start our home straight.


 * Pool A's winner was . Awarded the top score overall this round, Sturmvogel_66 writes primarily on military history, favouring Naval warfare.
 * Pool B's winner was . Awarded the top score for featured articles this round, Casliber writes primarily on natural sciences, especially botany and ornithology.
 * Pool A's close second was . Awarded the top score for featured pictures this round, Sasata writes primarily on natural sciences, favouring mycology.
 * Pool B's close second was . Awarded the top score for good articles and topics this round, ThinkBlue primarily writes content related to television and film, including 30 Rock.
 * The first wildcard was . Awarded the top score for did you knows and valued pictures this round, TonyTheTiger writes on a number of topics, including baseball, American football and Chicago.
 * The second wildcard was . Someone who has helped the Cup behind the scenes all year, White Shadows said "I'm still in shock that I made it this far" and writes primarily on Naval warfare, especially U-boats.
 * The third wildcard was . Awarded the top score for featured lists and topics this round, Staxringold primarily writes on sport and television, including baseball and 30 Rock.
 * The fourth wildcard was . Entering the final eight only on the final day of the round, William S. Saturn writes on a number of topics, mostly related to Texas.

We say goodbye to the six who fell at the final hurdle. only just missed out on a place in the final eight. was not far behind. was awarded top points for in the news this round. contributed a variety of did you know articles. said "I'm surprised to have survived so far into the competition", but was extactic to see Finland in the semi-finals. did not score this round, but has scored highly in previous rounds. We also say goodbye to, who withdrew earlier this month after spending six weeks overseas. Anyone interested in this round's results can see them here and here. Thank you to for these.

Signups for next year's competition are now open. Planning is ongoing, with a key discussion about judges for next year open. Discussion about how next year's scoring will work is ongoing, and thoughts are more than welcome at Wikipedia talk:WikiCup/Scoring. Also, TonyTheTiger is compiling some information and statistics on the finalists here- the final eight are encouraged to add themselves to the list.

Our final eight will play it out for two months, after which we will know 2010's WikiCup winner, and a variety of prizes will be awarded. As ever, anything you worry may not receive the necessary attention before the end of the round (such as outstanding GA or FA nominations) is welcome at WikiCup/Reviews, and please remember to continue offering reviews yourself where possible. As always, the judges are available to contact via email, IRC or their talk pages, and general discussion about the Cup is welcome on the WikiCup talk page. If you wish to start receiving or stop receiving this newsletter, please feel free to add or remove yourself from WikiCup/Newsletter/Send. J Milburn, Fox and The ed17 23:10, 31 August 2010 (UTC)

Notability
Hi! Which footballers is OK to make an article about? Ref: Fredrik Samdal Solberg, with matches on the second highest level in Norway? --- Løken (talk) 18:43, 1 September 2010 (UTC)

Eller på norsk, som jeg fant ut at du var etterpå. Hva er forskjellen på notabilitetskravene på norsk og engelsk? Refererende person er jo "notabel" på no-wikipedia. Eller? --- Løken (talk) 18:46, 1 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Hi! So far, only top-level footballers have been accepted. This is because a "rule" that the league has to be "fully professional", see Notability (sports). As a rough figure at least of half of the First Division teams consist of part-time players who have other jobs or take education. As for the Norwegian Wikipedia they have slacker requirements when it comes to Norway, all mayors are for instance considered notable there. Geschichte (talk) 18:48, 1 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Okey, but then you have a great job to delete all the not accepted players, f.eks: Vegar Landro, Kenneth Kvalheim, Mame Mbar Diouf, Harald Stormoen Fredrik Haugen and Anders Næs. Or what? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Løken (talk • contribs) 19:04, 1 September 2010 (UTC)
 * I'm not following every article on a player, but Stormoen was created by me as he played in Tippeligaen in the late 1990s. If not they should go. Geschichte (talk) 19:10, 1 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Okey. So what about Lillebakk, Chima from Molde Fk, and Juninho from SK Brann is OK? --- Løken (talk) 19:34, 1 September 2010 (UTC)
 * If Juninho has played a game, it's ok by the current "rules". Lillebakk has played in Molde for years, Chima for... weeks. If he has played then go ahead. Geschichte (talk) 19:35, 1 September 2010 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of Andreas Egler
The article Andreas Egler has been proposed for deletion&#32; because of the following concern:
 * Player does not meet notability criteria established at WP:ATHLETE. None of his clubs have played in a fully professional league when he was with him, nor has he participated in a senior international competition. Madcynic (talk) 17:09, 8 September 2010 (UTC)

DYK
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The DYK project (nominate) 18:03, 7 September 2010 (UTC)

The DYK project (nominate) 18:03, 7 September 2010 (UTC)

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The DYK project (nominate) 00:03, 9 September 2010 (UTC)

The DYK project (nominate) 00:03, 9 September 2010 (UTC)

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Calmer  Waters  18:03, 14 September 2010 (UTC)

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Nets
Hi Geschichte,

I know you are really good on creating articles related to Norway. Therefore I wondered if you were interested in creating an article for the major Scandinavian merger, between BBS and PBS, that happened today; BBS blir del av gigant? I've already updated the disambiguation page; Nets. I don't know if the new company is entitled to "own" the Nets article space, or don't know the usual disambiguator for companies, but I called it Nets (company) for the time being. Official website Best regards, lil2mas (talk) 20:33, 9 September 2010 (UTC)

Template:FK Lyn squad
It was probably right to delete this template now, as only Tyrel Lacey and Stanley Ihugba are the ones still without a contract. But there are still some redirects existing: What links here Will you take care of them as well? Thanks, in advance... lil2mas (talk) 12:38, 24 September 2010 (UTC)
 * I have deleted them. Rettetast (talk) 14:50, 24 September 2010 (UTC)

WikiCup 2010 September newsletter
We are half-way through our final round, entering the home straight. leads at the time of writing with 1180 points, immediately followed by with 1175 points. closely follows in third place with 1100 points. For those who are interested, data about the finalists has been compiled at WikiCup/History/2010/finalists, while a list of content submitted by all WikiCup contestants prior to this round has been compiled at WikiCup/History/2010/Submissions. As ever, anything contestants worry may not receive the necessary attention before the end of the round (such as outstanding GA or FA nominations) is welcome at WikiCup/Reviews, and please remember to continue offering reviews yourself where possible. As always, the judges are available to contact via email, IRC or their talk pages, and general discussion about the Cup is welcome on the WikiCup talk page.

Despite controversy, the WikiCup remains open. Signups for next year's competition are more than welcome, and suggestions for how next year's competition will work are appreciated at Wikipedia talk:WikiCup/Scoring. More general comments and discussions should be directed at the WikiCup talk page. One month remains in the 2010 WikiCup, after which we will know our champion. Good luck everyone! If you wish to start receiving or stop receiving this newsletter, please feel free to add or remove yourself from WikiCup/Newsletter/Send. J Milburn, Fox and The ed17 23:04, 30 September 2010 (UTC)

Kristian Laake
Sorry about that. I'll try to be more aware next time. I re-attached the paragraphs with common references that I broke in half. Yoninah (talk) 16:58, 2 October 2010 (UTC)

DYK
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Question about Halvdan Koht, which you recently expanded
Hi, Halvdan Koht was nominated for DYK by Oceanh. While reviewing it, I discovered a discrepancy in the dates during which the subject was a member of the Norwegian Nobel Committee. The navigation template at the bottom of the article lists the years as "1919–44". But the article text says that he "served on the Norwegian Nobel Committee from 1918 to 1936". The source referenced immediately after this is in Norwegian, but appears (to this non-Norwegian speaker) to give the dates as "1919-1942". Can you help clear this up? Thanks. M AN d ARAX •  XAЯA b ИA M  23:44, 8 October 2010 (UTC)

Re. DYK crediting for Milk strike
Hi, I've opened a thread at WT:DYK regarding this edit of yours. You may wish to contribute to the discussion. Regards. Strange Passerby (talk • c) 11:54, 10 October 2010

State Archive in Trondheim or whatever the heck it should be called
Hi: I'd like to ask you a favour. On 8 October Hattrem moved "State Archive in Trondheim" to "Regional State Archives of Trondheim", stating that that is its official name. I can find no evidence that that is the case, although it and the other archives outside Oslo are collectively and individually described as regional archives and although there is more than one archive housed at DORA 1. Also it's plain that Statsarkivet i Trondheim is singular. But Hattrem is an admin on no.wikipedia and I am very far from an expert on Norwegian language or stuff. I just translated a Norwegian-language article that got dumped here on en. (I moved it from Statsarkivet i Trondheim, and I put the Norwegian version onto no.wikipedia.) So, could you tell me whether I am in fact misinformed about the official English name, or out of date? I left a note on the talk page but no response yet. If I was right I'd like to move it back but am not sure whether that can simply be done, so if I am right, I may make a follow-up request to you. . . but it is quite possible I am wrong. Yngvadottir (talk) 17:41, 15 October 2010 (UTC)
 * The correct is "Regional State Archives in Trondheim", I sourced it. Geschichte (talk) 12:30, 21 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Thanks! That's what I needed. I find it a bit puzzling - I suspect "regional" is a descriptor not part of the name - but if that's what the gov't wants us to call it, fine :-) Yngvadottir (talk) 18:44, 21 October 2010 (UTC)

Alexander Bugge
Thanks for a much needed clean up, best regards, Finn Rindahl (talk) 11:27, 17 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Hm, I didn't notice you added refimprove. Could you please indicate, preferably with fact, where in the text additional references would be required? Finn Rindahl (talk) 07:17, 18 October 2010 (UTC)
 * A reference for every paragraph is a good standard. You probably used Norsk biografisk leksikon all the way? Geschichte (talk) 14:47, 18 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Yes I did, with the exception of the English translation of CCC. I'm not very happy about adding sources for whole paragraphs, even when based on a single source originally. That tends to lead to contradicting sourcing if someone adds a sentence (based on a different source) mid-paragraph. Finn Rindahl (talk) 14:56, 18 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Then it's their responsibility to add cn for that sentence, or a reference of their own. I have rarely encountered this as a practical problem, but then again I stay away from the pages likely to be edited by random people, like Jens Stoltenberg's article. Geschichte (talk) 15:37, 18 October 2010 (UTC)
 * I don't suppose very many will edit Alexander Bugge either... Anyway, I've aded a couple of ref's and moved some to the end of the paragraph so that they cover all of it, and not just the fact that I thought needed reference. Could you please take a look and consider removing that tag. Best regards, Finn Rindahl (talk) 17:12, 18 October 2010 (UTC)

Where in Bærum is Willy?
Could you take a look at the following cats on Commons and replace the geographical category with something appropriate, or leave it if it is fine. It's mostly your images in the categories anyway, so I figure you would know.
 * commons:Category:Ringstabekk stasjon
 * commons:Category:Tjernsrud stasjon
 * commons:Category:Gjønnes stasjon
 * commons:Category:Haslum stasjon
 * commons:Category:Egne hjem stasjon

Thanks, <strong style="color:green;">Arsenikk <sup style="color:grey;">(talk)  22:18, 19 October 2010 (UTC)
 * I have to take new pictures there some day. The landscape is altered beyond recognition. Geschichte (talk) 08:09, 20 October 2010 (UTC)

Bilateral relations
Of course I remember you. :) As for the article, it looks very nice. Would you like of me to search for some sources in Czech? - Darwinek (talk) 16:52, 24 October 2010 (UTC)
 * I can check the Czech-language sources, however I do not promise any good results. There are obviously more sources on some controversial or strong bilateral relations (Israel, USSR). Norway is not one of them. :) - Darwinek (talk) 21:42, 24 October 2010 (UTC)

Austfjorden (Hordaland)
HI, can you improve this translation from Norwegian wiki/find a source?♦ Dr. Blofeld  21:29, 30 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Hi, I don't think the no:wiki is good enough to translate from. Geschichte (talk) 21:34, 30 October 2010 (UTC)

WikiCup 2010 October newsletter
The 2010 WikiCup is over! It has been a long journey, but what has been achieved is impressive: combined, participants have produced over seventy featured articles, over five hundred good articles, over fifty featured lists, over one thousand one hundred "did you know" entries, in addition to various other pieces of recognised content. A full list (which has yet to be updated to reflect the scores in the final round) can be found here. Perhaps more importantly, we have our winner! The 2010 WikiCup champion is, with an unbelievable 4220 points in the final round. Second place goes to, with 2260, and third to , with 560. Congratulations to our other four finalists –, , and. Also, congratulations to, who withdrew from the competition with an impressive 2685 points earlier in this round.

Prizes will also be going to those who claimed the most points for different types of content in a single round. It was decided that the prizes would be awarded for those with the highest in a round, rather than overall, so that the finalists did not have an unfair advantage. Winning the featured article prize is, for five featured articles in round 4. Winning the good article prize is, for eighty-one good articles in round 5. Winning the featured list prize is, for six featured lists in round 1. Winning the picture and sound award is, for four featured pictures in round 3. Winning the topic award is, for forty-seven articles in various good topics in round 5. Winning the "did you know" award is, for over one hundred did you knows is round 5. Finally, winning the in the news award is, for nineteen articles in the news in round three.

The WikiCup has faced criticism in the last month – hopefully, we will take something positive from it and create a better contest for next year. Like Wikipedia itself, the Cup is a work in progress, and ideas for how it should work are more than welcome on the WikiCup talk page and on the scoring talk page. Also, people are more than welcome to sign up for next year's competition on the signup page. Well done and thank you to everyone involved – the Cup has been a pleasure to run, and we, as judges, have been proud to be a part of it. We hope that next year, however the Cup is working, and whoever is running it, it will be back, stronger and more popular than ever. Until then, goodbye and happy editing! If you wish to start receiving or stop receiving this newsletter, please feel free to add or remove yourself from WikiCup/Newsletter/Send. J Milburn, Fox and The ed17 03:05, 1 November 2010 (UTC)

DYK
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The DYK project (nominate) 18:04, 24 October 2010 (UTC)

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re:Lippe
Hi. Von der Lippe, Jakob or Jacob, was the Commanding Admiral in the 1930s. There's info on him in Sjøforsvaret dag for dag 1814-2000, a book I unfortunately do not possess. See also: this short encyclopaedic mention. Will see if I can dig something more up. Cheers. Manxruler (talk) 22:21, 1 November 2010 (UTC)
 * I think I may have found a photo of von der Lippe. Here's |a photograph taken in 1918, when he would have been 46 years old. That naval officer on the right might be him. Now, today the distinctions on the officer pictured would mean that he was a løytnant, but I believe there have been changes to the system over the years. Might be von der Lippe. Manxruler (talk) 18:53, 3 November 2010 (UTC)
 * I found and added some more info on von der Lippe in one of my books. Manxruler (talk) 22:28, 4 November 2010 (UTC)

Bestum (station)
Hi, I found this article of yours through Category:Disused Oslo Tramway stations. However, I cannot find any refs confirming its existence, still after having spent the last half hour searching on Atekst and Google for it. Do you have any sources? -- Eisfbnore  ( talk ) 20:43, 5 November 2010 (UTC)
 * Old maps.
 * Such a pity that there exists no real book about the tramway and its stations, only about former tramways that became metros. I believe the tramway stops in the city center have fluctuated a lot. Much of our content now is pure guesswork, as we just assume that the stations opened the same date as the line. This is not automatically the case. Maybe årsberetninger from the various tram companies could shed light on it. Geschichte (talk) 23:05, 5 November 2010 (UTC)

Just for the record, Rønneberg's map book lists the following stations that do not exist anymore: Bestum (Lilleaker Line), Halvdan Svartes gate, Olav Kyrres plass, Frederik Stangs gate (Skøyen Line), Valkyrie plass, Vibes gate, Handelsbygningen (Briskeby Line), Ullevålsalleen, Sporveisgata (Ullevål Hageby Line), Rosenlundgata (Grünerløkka–Torshov Line), Posthuset, Kirkeristen (in the city center). The distinction between "Jernbanetorget" and "Jernbanetorget T" exists again I believe, it didn't a while ago. Geschichte (talk) 23:13, 5 November 2010 (UTC)
 * There is one book on the Lilleaker Line, from 1944. It isn't much to brag about; I borrowed it through fjernlån about a year ago, but it wasn't really anything worth citing. Now it seems to be non-circulating, so it'll be up to people in Oslo to use it for anything. Unfortunately (!), the English Wikipedia is turning into the best guide in the world for the trams and metro in Oslo... As Geschichte points out, list of Oslo Tramway stations right now is no more than guesswork and presumptions. For a while (in the very early days), the trams would even stop wherever people wanted them to. Of course, then they could never hold the schedule, so they quickly quit with that, but it shows the sorts of problems we're up with. My temporary solution (if you can call it that) is to not do much with the tram stations themselves. <strong style="color:green;">Arsenikk <sup style="color:grey;">(talk)  00:13, 6 November 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for the quick response. I am for the moment occupied with my User:Eisfbnore/List of disused Oslo Metro stations, in which I include the tram stops (15 stations won't reach FL, I think). This book states that a station at Bestum was built when the line was opened, but not when the station was abandonded. I believe that the closing date is very important for such lists. -- Eisfbnore  ( talk ) 12:18, 6 November 2010 (UTC)
 * Regarding turning the above mentioned into an article, I believe it is redundant to List of Oslo Metro stations, since it provides no information not in there, so you risk having it deleted (and definitively won't pass FL). And if you include the tram station, you'll have to be certain you have all the stations before taking it to FL, which I doubt is possible. <strong style="color:green;">Arsenikk <sup style="color:grey;">(talk)  13:02, 6 November 2010 (UTC)
 * Well, the article is not yet finished, and it will definitely have more text before I turn it into an article. Could it be an idea to throw out the tram stops and include the contemporarly closed Kolsås Line stations, thus naming it List of disused and temporarily nonoperational Oslo Metro stations? -- Eisfbnore  ( talk ) 20:55, 6 November 2010 (UTC)
 * P.S. I think this source may help. I know this is dangerously close to WP:OR, but I think 2004 was the closing date. -- Eisfbnore  ( talk ) 21:11, 6 November 2010 (UTC)
 * This source also has some stuff. <strong style="color:green;">Arsenikk <sup style="color:grey;">(talk)  00:03, 7 November 2010 (UTC)

DYK
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Andreas Schaft
Hi, after having read your interesting article Elisenberg, I do get the urge to blue the above-linked article. My only problem is this: What is "zahlkasserer" in English? Thanks, Eisfbnore  talk 15:23, 3 December 2010 (UTC)
 * I don't know, such old-fashioned titles are difficult (try writing up a civil servant from the late 1700s and you'll encounter the same problem). It's a treasurer or some kind of excise officer maybe. Zahl means number. Geschichte (talk) 19:26, 3 December 2010 (UTC)


 * Thank you for the quick reply. I see that nowp has an article named no:zahlkasserer, stating that he was a sort of embedsmann. Maybe it's better simply describing what being a zahlkasserer means in the lead sentence, or what do you think? Many websites about him also calls him justisråd, but I'm not quite sure how to translate that to English either, but I don't think it's "Gabbe" as |en|justisr%C3%A5d Google Translate suggests. :) Eisfbnore  talk 21:51, 3 December 2010 (UTC)

Proposed deletion



 * The article Christoph Chylla has been proposed for deletion&#32; because of the following concern: Non-notable footballer who fails WP:ATHLETE.
 * The article Tobias Büttner has been proposed for deletion&#32; because of the following concern: Non-notable footballer who never played a fully professional game.. J Mo 101 (talk) 20:07, 11 December 2010 (UTC)

Lauer
What do you think is we move the disambiguation page to "Lauer". I don't think the island is important enough to be the main target, what do you think? It isn't listed in Google maps or Bing maps. --Richard Arthur Norton (1958- ) (talk) 07:11, 14 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Dunno, but on the subject of moving things, wrong machine translations belong in dev/null. Geschichte (talk) 22:33, 14 December 2010 (UTC)

Norwegian Women's Corps
Hi G,

Right now I'm on my annual Christmas holiday (forgot to put the sign up), so I can't check my off-line sources. However, I assume that what Stortinget is referring to in this case is Hærens kvinnekorps. During the war the exiled Norwegian government introduced compulsory military service for both men an women. Norsk krigsleksikon has a little bit on Hærens kvinnekorps under the header Hæren. We absolutely should have an article on Hærens kvinnekorps, I'll be able to contribute to it in January 2011. Manxruler (talk) 08:11, 21 December 2010 (UTC)