User talk:GestaltG

Thank you for spoiling lost for me. I can't wait till someone AfD's your beastmaster article and it gets deleted.

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Meelar (talk) 20:52, August 3, 2005 (UTC)

Re: your question on the help desk
You may also be interested in WP:VANITY. pfctdayelise 10:29, 2 January 2006 (UTC)

Hi there. Though I disagree with your nomination of SourceForts for deletion, I direct you to Neoforts. 66.56.209.112 01:17, 10 January 2006 (UTC)

He obviously only cares about being a s**t stirrer, only going after the best mods, to get a reaction, I guess the wiki equivalent of a troll.

Notable
Do you think a piece of software with over 150.000 people is un-notable? If you go for example to the article Neoforts that is un-notable. And the page is a waste of space. It does not provide any information of any kind and and seems more of a advertisment to me then great articles like SourceForts and Dystopia (computer game). And you could better start cleaning out the real un-notable mod. You could use this list: List of Half-Life 2 mods.

Ghezus 12:59, 12 January 2006 (UTC)

You strike me as someone who is really not aware of what the modding scene has done/is. I agree with you when you say that there shouldn't be a wiki entry for every single mod for every single game. The vast majority of mods never ammount to more then a few changes in code a couple finished models and a dead website, but for the few that do make it through to release, many of them have developed large comunities and have massive ammounts of organized play taking place behind the scenes, let alone what they have done to the gaming scene in general. Counterstrike was a mod, so was day of defeat, no game retail or otherwize has managed to match the player ammounts those mods have racked up over the years. Mods like Natural Selection (computer game) and Dystopia have hundreds, if not more, compeditive players who regulary compeate in tournaments and matches for glory and occationally material prizes. Natural selection has no less then 15 large websites dedicated to it by various authors, gigabytes of third party content created specificly to further customize the mod play experiance, and several advertizements made for it by Valve, the company responsible for Half-Life (which NS was modded from). The game has had more players over time then the majority of released retail projects, and had in excess of 10,000 registered users in it's official forums. The game has also been mentioned by nearly every FPS gaming website in existance, including totally unrelated sites like penny arcade and something awful, as well as having several gaming magazine articals published on it. Granted that every mod is not that successful, but the point remains, the statement that "Mod wiki entries are un-noteable and useless fancruft" is vastly ignorant. Some may be but many many are definately notable and relevent, expecially amoung released mods.

SwiftSpear 07:46, 13 January 2006 (UTC)
 * I agree with that, as a mod developer, alot of Hard work goes within making, and even releasing mod. Just to tear away at it, and say something to delete it's page it just terrible, and very discouraging to the people who have worked closely with a project, and more importantly is discourages anyone in that scene from continuing to add information towards the wiki, which is why sure, not every mod should have a wiki page. But those that are completed, or are a definable release and have a tad more custom work should.--MrTwoVideoCards (talk) 02:35, 5 May 2008 (UTC)