User talk:Gezellig

Chenoweth-Hage
Hi, I wrote the death listing for Helen Chenoweth-Hage. I see you changed "conservative" to "Republican" because of purported POV. I respectfully disagree, and think her notability was that she was a conservative, as pointed out in all the obituaries. It was a label she embraced, she was openly one of the most conservative members of congress. I thought "right-wing" would have been POV, but conservative? Not everyone thinks that's a bad thing, and no one friend or foe would have called her "moderate." Bruxism 01:56, 4 October 2006 (UTC)

Bruxism,

Thanks for your comment. Sorry, but I just noticed it, as I am new to how Wikipedia works. I am not even sure I am responding to you using the correct method, but here goes...

Let me ask you this: In 100 years would someone looking at this listing find the labeling of her as "conservative" a meaningful concept? The phrase "conservative", although widely ascribed to her today, is just an opinion based on today's frames of reference. Those frames of reference will almost certainly be different in the future. By way of example, take Abraham Lincoln; if someone labeled him a "Republican" when he died, that would be absolutely true, and the passage of time does not change that (it is still true today). If you were writing Abraham Lincoln's obituary some 140 years ago, how would you have described him on the liberal-conservative continuum? Would your choice in 1865 be the same one you would use today? Would it even be meaningful? The fact that Chenoweth-Hage was a Republican is true today and will be true in 2106. The labeling of her as a "conservative" may be widely agreed to today, but will it be an accurate description 25, 50, or 100 years from now? Gezellig 19:18, 17 October 2006 (UTC)

Eleanor Mondale
If you have a link to a reliable source about Ms Mondale's death, feel free to add it to the article and revert my changes. Without a valid source I'm afraid we cannot include that information per WP:BLP. Thanks! Syrthiss 23:48, 1 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Maybe you were thinking of Eleanor McGovern, wife of George McGovern? MFNickster 00:28, 2 February 2007 (UTC)

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