User talk:Gfis

ALCOR character for multiplication
Hi,

Thanx for you note on the runic/iron cross.

Can you confirm, and maybe cite a source, for runic/iron cross being used as multiplication character?
 * This character set included the unusual "᛭" (iron/runic cross) character for multiplication and the "₁₀" (subscript/lower 10) character for floating point notation.


 * http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=ALCOR&direction=next&oldid=135917551

I was puzzled about this character, I had a couple of hypothesis: Compare same row from these two similar formats:
 * 1) Normally the '᛭' is used to indicate a soldier that has died in battle, so I wondered if it was used in place of an exit/return statement.
 * 2) An alternative guess, based on the same location on Teletype paper tape punching, it is used as per the $ character in ALGOL 68, a format specifiers.

In ALGOL 68 it was a quotation/punctuation mark for format specifications. eg.
 * ALGOL 68: printf(($g(5,3)$,3.141))
 * C: printf("%5.3f",3.141))

Please tell me the actual German/ALCOR name for the character? (It is referred to as the iron cross in http://www.science.uva.nl/museum/DWcodes.html#A001)

If the runic/iron cross was used for multiplication, what was the "*" asterisk character used for?

Cheers NevilleDNZ (talk) 04:40, 31 July 2008 (UTC)


 * Thank your for your interest in that matter! Sorry that I read your message just now (Gfis (talk) 10:25, 31 August 2008 (UTC)) Just so far from my memory: the main reason for the inclusion of that character was its availability on (German) Siemens telex machines. There were very few "punctuation" characters in the "digits" page of the 5-bit telex (baudot) code, and therefore the ALCOR people used that code also. I will prepare a more profound answer.

Have you discovered a reference stating what the " ᛭ " iron cross uses were on the Siemens telex machine? NevilleDNZ (talk) 01:59, 5 March 2009 (UTC)

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