User talk:Ggadwa

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I've replied to your message here. ➔ REDVEЯS isn't wearing pants 09:06, 6 November 2007 (UTC)

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I've replied to your message here again, and the userfied article is now at User:Ggadwa/Dim3 as you requested. Even though it's in userspace, it can still be edited by everybody and anybody. Hope this helps. Feel free to ask me for any help you need (or use helpme on this page and someone else will come running). ➔ REDVEЯS isn't wearing pants 14:59, 6 November 2007 (UTC)


 * And again :o) ➔ REDVEЯS isn't wearing pants 15:24, 6 November 2007 (UTC)


 * Ah, so it got deleted. I guess there was too many bogus keep votes to have an admin who had to read through it all then simply close it with no consensus :P You should do something bringing it some more notability, like get another reliable source like Macworld or InsideMacGames to review it. Maybe port it to Windows or Linux, then it could get reviews in non-Mac magazines :) --Allefant 12:05, 7 November 2007 (UTC)

dim3 article issues
Hi Ggadwa!

Some issues with the article as it stands (ignoring the errors in formatting and the conflict of interest issues for now).


 * 1) This MacWorld article is clearly a press release and not a reliable source. Any statement being driven by it needs to be deleted.
 * 2) "created by Brian Barnes" - inline source needed as the Klink website doesn't say that at first glance. (Obvious, I know who it is but something official needs to say so)
 * 3) "Dim3 is aims to give developers of any ability the tools to create a wide range of games" - source 4 doesn't say this. An alternative 3rd party reliable source is needed, or delete the sentence.
 * 4) "dim3 has been in development since late 2000" - inline source needed, or delete the sentence.
 * 5) "A number of games have been produced using dim3 and many more are in production" - sources required, especially for the second part of the statement. Or delete at least the second part entirely.
 * 6) From then on, the article descends into proseline - always an indication of an article in trouble and often a sign of spamming. Each of these sections need to be put into proper prose or deleted.
 * 7) "Components" section - remove the list at the start (the list follows anyway), the definite article on each section heading (the word "the"), and combine "The Demo Game" into this section. Thumbnail the images and range them to the right.
 * 8) Pick one or two of the games - notable ones, ones with reviews in reliable publications - and mention them in prose. Otherwise remove this advertising-like section.
 * 9) External links - focus on the audience here: pick the three that would be of most use to Wikipedia's readers, not dim3's fans.

Sorry this is brutal - I'm lacking sleep and in a hurry, so I'm biting at you like mad. Sorry :o(

I'd make the changes myself, but can't on the couple of places where you and the forum are likely to have the information to hand. ➔ REDVEЯS isn't wearing pants 20:43, 7 November 2007 (UTC)


 * No problems; I'll start the clean up ASAP. It looks like a "less is more" approach might also help here. Ggadwa 21:49, 7 November 2007 (UTC)


 * One thing I'm a little bit unsure of -- I basically used a block quote from the IMG article to "describe" dim3 so it would be verified. Am I doing this the proper way? Yes, I have a lot of questions, but I want to escape delete and I want to do this as picture perfect as possible. Ggadwa 22:09, 7 November 2007 (UTC)