User talk:Ghardt13

March 2021
Hello Ghardt13. The nature of your edits, such as the one you made to Oracle CRM, gives the impression you have an undisclosed financial stake in promoting a topic, but you have not complied with Wikipedia's mandatory paid editing disclosure requirements. Paid advocacy is a category of conflict of interest (COI) editing that involves being compensated by a person, group, company or organization to use Wikipedia to promote their interests. Undisclosed paid advocacy is prohibited by our policies on neutral point of view and what Wikipedia is not, and is an especially serious type of COI; the Wikimedia Foundation regards it as a "black hat" practice akin to black-hat search-engine optimization.

Paid advocates are very strongly discouraged from direct article editing, and should instead propose changes on the talk page of the article in question if an article exists. If the article does not exist, paid advocates are extremely strongly discouraged from attempting to write an article at all. At best, any proposed article creation should be submitted through the articles for creation process, rather than directly.

Regardless, if you are receiving or expect to receive compensation for your edits, broadly construed, you are  required by the Wikimedia Terms of Use to disclose your employer, client and affiliation. You can post such a mandatory disclosure to your user page at User:Ghardt13. The template Paid can be used for this purpose – e.g. in the form:. If I am mistaken – you are not being directly or indirectly compensated for your edits – please state that in response to this message. Otherwise, please provide the required disclosure. In either case, do not edit further until you answer this message. MrOllie (talk) 18:35, 2 March 2021 (UTC)

RESPONSE

I am not a paid resource and received zero financial compensation for my updates. I work for Oracle and just about everything on this page is incorrect, including the product set. I am merely, without a marketing spin, updating all the content so that it represents our actual products, migration paths, etc. Please allow me to revert and restor my changes, for I am not sure how else to accurately depict the honest view of our products. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ghardt13 (talk • contribs)


 * As an employee you are considered to be a paid editor and should abide by all the relevant guidelines linked for you above. - MrOllie (talk) 16:59, 3 March 2021 (UTC)

What is the best way to make updates? I will read the resource, but is there a way that we can make this content accurate? For as today and as it stands - nothing on this page is correct? Thanks for the help. Can you help us to make updates? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ghardt13 (talk • contribs)


 * You can make requests on talk pages that will be reviewed by volunteers. This is described in the policies linked above. Specific instructions are at Template:Request edit - MrOllie (talk) 17:06, 3 March 2021 (UTC)

Ok, and last question, it looks like (and I am an ABSOLUTE newbie to this) I can make an update and in my submission, I can clearly note I am an employee of Oracle. Would that work -- so when reviewed they will know that the content is accurate to our product set. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ghardt13 (talk • contribs)


 * No, you should use the talk page only, and you should make your COI disclosures in the format described in the pages linked above. - MrOllie (talk) 17:17, 3 March 2021 (UTC)

Some of the content you added was copied from another website, and thus was a violation of Wikipedia's copyright policy. Please don't add copyright material to Wikipedia. — Diannaa (talk) 20:31, 3 March 2021 (UTC)

Diannaa, I work for Oracle - as you can see MrOllie is already trying to guide me, but I am pulling content, trying to "quote" it, and reference to our pages. What is on this page is WILDLY out of date and not a single product is correct. We are trying to update this appropriately as this page is coming up in search and not correct.

1) Declare on your User page that you are paid by Oracle. 2) Start a new section on the Talk page of Oracle CRM and describe specific changes desired. 2a) If there is a lot, may want to break it into several new sections. 2b) As part of requests, specify what is to be removed, too. 3) Do not propose that content be copied from the Oracle website - or any website - as that is a copyright infringement. 4) Per instructions above, request a non-involved editor evaluate the request Template:Request edit. 5) Be patient. It's all volunteers. There is not escalate or higher authority that will accelerate action. David notMD (talk) 21:09, 5 March 2021 (UTC)