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J. Mayo Williams
Hello, I'm currently at work on a book about Jay Mayo Williams, and I noted your discussion with Richard S. Clark about Jay Mayo Williams' birthplace. By any chance could you put me in touch with Mr. Clark? Thanks for your time and attention! MrDanKelly (dan@mrdankelly.com) —Preceding unsigned comment added by MrDanKelly (talk • contribs) 21:22, 22 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Done. Ghmyrtle (talk) 22:31, 22 January 2008 (UTC)

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Maximilian
Hi, I heard Maximilian's The Snake just once on Radio Luxembourg, and loved it - never knew he was Max Crook until now - thanks - Rothorpe (talk) 16:55, 29 January 2008 (UTC)

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Ouch
I see Betacommandbot carpet-bombed your page too, like hundreds of others. Anyway, the reason I'm leaving this message for you is that I have suspicions that User:Norman Beaker and User:Berylguru are the same individual.  Enigma  msg! 00:14, 21 February 2008 (UTC)

RE:Image:SevernMap.jpg
Sorry about the slow reply, I've been busy with other commitments as of late. I will try and get round to adding those more relevant settlements ASAP. I'm not sure why I put Stafford and Dudley on there to be honest... Chrisbayley (talk) 01:08, 24 February 2008 (UTC)

Ludlow
Between us I am sure that we can lift this article! --MJB (talk) 17:37, 3 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Sure - though it's not a place I know that well, and I need to concentrate on other areas. But I'm happy to keep a watch on what you and others do.  Ghmyrtle (talk) 17:42, 3 March 2008 (UTC)

March 2008
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 * Oh dear.... Ghmyrtle (talk) 23:16, 5 March 2008 (UTC)

Are you the editor that put a strike out over your remarks on the DYK page? If it was you, I thank you for seeing the light. If if was not you, I thank the editor who did -- probably the one who posted on my talk page. What you did is not acceptable behavior on wikipedia. Mattisse (Talk) 23:09, 6 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Yes it was. I suggest you re-read your comments to me, re-read my comments to you, and take some time out to think about whose behaviour was more unacceptable. Ghmyrtle (talk) 23:13, 6 March 2008 (UTC)

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Cultural relationship between the Welsh and the English
For what it is worth, an excellent job turning around an initially feeble entry. --MJB (talk) 17:08, 30 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Indeed. I might recommend adding this (I'm thinking of the Robert Relfesque "only for sale to a Welsh speaker" part near the bottom), this, this and this. One Night In Hackney  303  09:49, 31 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the comments. I got bored playing round with it in draft (and learning a lot about Welsh history in the process!) so put it up in the hope that others could improve it - feel free to add bits yourselves!  I think it particularly needs an expanded section on the recent (20th century) past, sports rivalry, etc., but I'm happy for others to make what changes they want (and if I think they're inappropriate I'll just change them back again, of course...)   Ghmyrtle (talk) 09:56, 31 March 2008 (UTC)


 * Thanks. Just happened to come across the article. I've added a few quotes from that most esteemed of English intellectuals, Jeremy Clarkson. Enaidmawr (talk) 00:28, 5 April 2008 (UTC)

Book of Love
Thanks for the edits. I'm surprised no one wrote this earlier! At least it is started. Pustelnik (talk) 00:56, 1 April 2008 (UTC)

English exonyms
Hello again Ghmyrtle,

I would welcome your assistance on a draft project page I'm putting together for non-English place names in the UK per the discussions made on the WP:UKCITIES talk page.

I have started a sandbox page at User:Jza84/Sandbox, and would like you to take a look. It's not finished, but I'm coming to the end of my knowledge on the topic and, if you desire, wouldn't mind at all if you fancied editting that page prior to bringing it to the community. I hope it helps, :) --Jza84 | Talk  22:29, 3 April 2008 (UTC)


 * Hello, and thanks for the great response!


 * The earlier problems you speak of (such as "English first" and "native name") stem from me copying and pasting guidelines from WP:NCGN and WP:UE. If you feel you can put something together that is in the spirit of what's needed and what guidelines exist, I really don't mind you diving in my sandbox. This is a subject that doesn't really mean an awful lot to me (in terms of raw passion), and so I have an objective, open mind but also a lack on knowledge of certain examples.


 * I think the examples of London and Bristol are good examples to mention as those likely to disclude "Celtic" names, as they fail certain criteria/recommendations made at WP:NCGN, an official Wikipedia convention.


 * The page is ultimately intended to help rather than hinder though, so I've tried to keep things positive. --Jza84 | Talk  23:43, 3 April 2008 (UTC)


 * I have made some revised suggestions at User:Ghmyrtle/Sandbox 2. I am conscious that this may not give as much rigour as some might like - though personally I tend towards flexibility rather than rigidity of approach - and also that it tends to focus on the Wales/England issue, which has been my main concern and has generated many words on many talk pages.  I haven't changed Jza84's suggested usage table, simply because I'm undecided how useful it would be (although I'm very grateful for the stimulus it has offered).  All comments and thoughts welcome.  I'm copying this message to various pages, but I suggest that further discussion should be coordinated at the WP:UKCITIES talk page.  Ghmyrtle (talk) 20:26, 9 April 2008 (UTC)


 * Hi. I only spotted this discussion by accident, but you seem to have been working hard - and doing a grand job.  Diolch. Deb (talk) 11:55, 14 April 2008 (UTC)

Mersey Ferry
Hi Ghmyrtle. Just like to offer some well-deserved praise for your expansion of the Mersey Ferry article. If I hadn't already given you a barnstar, you'd certainly get one for this! Out of interest, why was  removed? Snowy 1973 (talk) 12:38, 15 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks for re-instating. Being the formatting pedant that I am, I can expand on your refs with citation templates for consistency once you're done. Article looks even better now :-) Snowy 1973 (talk) 14:15, 15 April 2008 (UTC)

Denise Marsa
Where did you get the last bit of info? I could not get a good reference for that bit. Edmic —Preceding unsigned comment added by Edmic (talk • contribs) 22:46, 15 April 2008 (UTC)

Dean Friedman
Not POV - it is a reference from BBC site. You took away my reference to the BBC - with no explanation! Edmic —Preceding unsigned comment added by Edmic (talk • contribs) 22:57, 15 April 2008 (UTC)

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J.B. Long
I just (finally) added the J.B. Long info. we discussed awhile ago. I have some more to add, but will have to get around to that sometime soon. Cheers, Evets70 (talk) —Preceding comment was added at 19:14, 22 April 2008 (UTC)

Question
Is there anything wrong with the new wording?

I think the juxtaposition of "native" versus "non-native" is a bit odd considering that both Anglo-Saxons and Celts are Indo-European peoples who would both have "invaded" and displaced earlier populations.

P.S. It is odd to not see an article discussing this on the Welsh Wikipedia. Your userpage does not state that you are a Welsh speaker, but if you are, could you write a small stub? - Francis Tyers · 15:29, 24 April 2008 (UTC)


 * How about "previous" or "previously established" ? - Francis Tyers · 15:43, 24 April 2008 (UTC)


 * And about "Origins of the British", I'm not sure about that, but again it isn't something that troubles me greatly. Going by what Oppenheimer says we could put "former invaders (Welsh)", but I think that would be a crude stab. "Earlier", or "Previous" work sufficiently well. PS. Could you see my note on the talk page? - Francis Tyers · 15:50, 24 April 2008 (UTC)

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Reply to comment about Gospel music
Gospel music is not just music of African-American traditions. Gospel music (like Christian music is a major classification covering many styles of music (all of which carry a common theme). Additionally, as you stated, Gospel music is not just music of the USA. The compromise (made by a group of editors) was to make the Gospel music article very general in scope and provide more detail in the various subgenres of Gospel music (see Urban contemporary gospel, Southern Gospel, etc. Please review the article discussion page for the rationale behind the current status of this article. Hope this provides the information you seek. Absolon S. Kent (talk) 17:14, 1 May 2008 (UTC)
 * My reply is at Talk:Gospel music - I suggest keeping the discussion there. Ghmyrtle (talk) 20:34, 1 May 2008 (UTC)

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Please have a look at my Talk Page for your reply - Adrian Pingstone (talk) 16:24, 23 May 2008 (UTC)

Thanks
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St. Mary's Church, Chepstow

 * It was user:John Carter who actually added it, i've just tweaked it a bit to correct denomination and so on. David Underdown (talk) 14:24, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

WikiProject Merseyside
Hi there, I hope this isn't considered spam, but I noticed on the UK Geography project page that you have an interest in Liverpool related pages, so I wanted to ask if you would be interesting in supporting a Merseyside Wikiproject? I'm trying to gauge if there is suitable support before making a formal proposal. Cheers. Zenichiro (talk) 15:28, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

Oops sorry,
I've been redirecting a bunch of Who songs not notable in their right. I'll just remove the Category:The Who songs template. indopug (talk) 21:39, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
 * (Sorry I missed your reply) I don't think so; the song is not notable as a Who song, so the category shouldn't be there. As a stronger example, take something like The Beatles' "Yesterday", which has been covered by hundreds of bands; we won't have the song in each of those bands' categories would we? indopug (talk) 23:41, 7 June 2008 (UTC)

Greater Liverpool
I noticed you are proposing a merger of a page I set up today. I am unable to concentrate entirely on examining what is going on here, but I am trying. If you propose to merge with Liverpool urban area, I am concerned that the existing urban area page does not carry the point that I was making. The urban area apparently says St Helens is part of it. In the area that is wider Liverpool St Helens is a totally separate town, different dialect, sport etc. Not the same idea that I was making. Dmcm2008 (talk) 23:00, 9 June 2008 (UTC)

Crediton
Greetings. I have semi-protected the Crediton article for 24 hours. Unfortunately, I am editing Wikipedia by battery powered laptop for an indefinite time due to a precocious spring thunderstorm in my area. If I don't get to it tomorrow, would you mind removing the sprotect template when the protection expires? I've watchlisted the page, but please drop me a line if there is any further hoaxing. Thanks! --Bradeos Graphon Βραδέως Γράφων (talk) 12:42, 13 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Also, I'm satisfied the NWA material is very likely a hoax (in the absence of any evidence to the contrary), and whenever you'd like please feel free to remove it from the article if you agree. --Bradeos Graphon Βραδέως Γράφων (talk) 12:49, 13 June 2008 (UTC)
 * I'm sure Crediton is lovely, which on reflection is just the sort of thing to almost completely disqualify it from a visit by NWA or their ilk, I would think! Cheers, --Bradeos Graphon Βραδέως Γράφων (talk) 12:56, 13 June 2008 (UTC)

"I'm sure Crediton is lovely" This clearly proves that neither of you have ever set foot in Crediton. In recent times several people have been stabbed (to death) in the high street, and saturday night is notorious for drunken violance, and not one month ago someone tried to blow themselves up outside Lloyds bank after dowsing themselves in petrol. http://www.thisisexeter.co.uk/displayNode.jsp?nodeId=137015&command=displayContent&sourceNode=136999&contentPK=20528605&moduleName=InternalSearch&formname=sidebarsearch Yea Crediton is just lovely... ps: The NWA GIG at the Liberal Club is not a hoax. Please just check the references. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 151.170.240.10 (talk) 13:51, 13 June 2008 (UTC)


 * Actually, I never said Crediton was lovely (...it's OK), though I have set foot there many times. Maybe you could aspire to permanent recognition here.  Ghmyrtle (talk) 15:33, 13 June 2008 (UTC)


 * I'm sorry to have caused a fuss. My statement was based on my circumstances which (of course) our anon NWA fan friends wouldn't know about. In the rust belt industrial slum wasteland where I live, guns, legal and illegal, are carried by almost everyone. The police, such as they are, won't leave their cars after dark in many neighborhoods unless there are dozens of them in riot gear. Competing drug dealers and pimps machine gun each other fairly regularly, at least a few every day. We are known (as is south central L.A.) as being one of the most dangerous places to live in the entire world. I think we hold the record for the youngest child tried as an adult for first degree murder (11 years old, for a gang execution). I'm sure Crediton is quite nice by comparison... ;-) --Bradeos Graphon Βραδέως Γράφων (talk) 01:45, 14 June 2008 (UTC)


 * "which on reflection is just the sort of thing to almost completely disqualify it from a visit by NWA or their ilk..." -hello racist agenda! look dude, they came, they saw, they kicked crediton's ass. coming straight outta khirton, a bad mothaf*cka named ICE CUBE... 82.32.194.76 (talk) 02:21, 15 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Even more remarkable, given that Ice Cube left N.W.A in 1989 and the supposed "concert" was in 1993... Ghmyrtle (talk) 09:12, 16 June 2008 (UTC)
 * "Even more remarkable, given that Ice Cube left N.W.A in 1989" - This was due to a fall out with NWA manager Jerry Yeller, but cube still remained tight with NWA, particularly Easy-E (writting a lot of lyrics for his first solo album). Khirton was chosen as the place for this small renioun gig due to it being quiet, and secluded (as well as having a sizable UK NWA following), which was felt necessary do to the death threats Easy-E was recieving at the time...This is all elborated on in James Hardy's book. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.107.195.157 (talk) 21:52, 16 June 2008 (UTC)

"Sorry, but someone saying "they've checked" does not verify it. Ghmyrtle (talk) 09:14, 22 June 2008 (UTC)"


 * Well what the f**k does, we have done everything required by wikipedia to include additions to an article. All you prove with your action Ghymrtle is that the only truth is the account of the most emphatic assertive person.

Just thought...
...I'd best let you know that User:Zenichiro was making tentative enquiries about founding a WikiProject Merseyside. You seem to be active in that region of WP so thought you might want to know! I'm not sure if/where there is a central discussion, but there is a note on User talk:Zenichiro. :) --Jza84 | Talk  10:21, 20 June 2008 (UTC)

Category
I am still new to editing and I am wanting to follow up the pages for Urban area or Greater Liverpool etc with a grouping of the districts in the category section. I am seeking feedback before I make a pigs ear of it...... I am thinking along the lines of the Broader Rental Market map and linking all of the districts. A somewhat shortened version exists on the Liverpool Urban Area ONS list. But I was looking along the lines like a full list see L Postcodes; with some category on the foot of each place. Does that make sense or is it workable? Let me know what you think. Dmcm2008 (talk) 21:52, 20 June 2008 (UTC)

Swanee
Thanks for your work on Swanee (song). However Jolson certainly couldn't have recorded it for Decca Records in 1919, ten years before that company existed. Might he have recorded it for some other company in 1919, then re recorded it for Decca a generation or so later? If you have info to straighten it out, that would be appreciated. As it stood, it was clearly wrong, so I took the Decca out-- more changes may be needed. Thanks again, -- Infrogmation (talk) 03:05, 22 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Great, thanks! Cheers, -- Infrogmation (talk) 14:55, 22 June 2008 (UTC)

Liverpool Urban Area 'greater Liverpool'
I am not sure how this works, but I am seeking additional opinions on the discussion on this page, I will abide by the general consensus. User JZA continues to undermine my edits and has done over a period. However I am only looking at opinions on the discussion page on Liverpool Urban Area if you are interested please leave your thoughts. Thank you. Dmcm2008 (talk) 10:10, 29 June 2008 (UTC)