User talk:Ghmyrtle/Archive 45

Vic Briggs
Dear Ghmyrtle, Death date 25 June 2021 for Vic Briggs seems more likely, re this blog post dated 29 June. Vysotsky (talk) 11:35, 6 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Not so. See this thread.  On 28 June: "I have heard my previous post was not quite clear to some…he has not yet passed..."   and on 2 July: "Antion Vikram Singh Meredith aka Vic Briggs aka Vikram Singh Khalsa aka my dad passed away peacefully on June 30, 2021....".   Regards, Ghmyrtle (talk) 11:42, 6 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Facebook is not open to me, but your qootes suffice. Thanks! Vysotsky (talk) 12:10, 6 July 2021 (UTC)

Ok, at the UK
Howdy. You're correct to 'close'. Not sure, what the IP's trying to do, but it appears he is indeed an evader. GoodDay (talk) 17:55, 6 July 2021 (UTC)
 * I'm sure you didn't mean to, but in this edit you removed the IP's signature, so making it appear that the abuse was part of your text. I've corrected it now.  Ghmyrtle (talk) 18:05, 6 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Ok, thanks :) GoodDay (talk) 18:12, 6 July 2021 (UTC)

Editor of the Week
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 * I nominate User Ghmyrtle to be Editor of the Week for helping me understand more and more of Wikipedia's rules and regulations. Being new to Wikipedia, I'm unsure of some of them but they have repeatedly helped me and I've used their guidance in every edit since. I look forward to editing Wikipedia (correctly) in the future. They definitely deserve this award for their kindness toward me and others.

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 * This is Ghmyrtle's second Eddy. Well deserved I must say. Back in 2016, when he was awarded the first Eddy, he also received the "PENISS Prize" and he responded in a way I will never forget. His response? "Blow me". &#8213; Buster7   &#9742;   15:13, 17 July 2021 (UTC)


 * "Block him, I say, it's the only language these editors understand!". Martinevans123 (talk) 15:21, 17 July 2021 (UTC) p.s. well done Guy.

removed external links I added to the main body of The Au Go Go Singers
Do you work for Wikipedia? I want to have a link from a person (Kathy Segal a.k.a. Kathrin King Segal) mentioned in this article to her website. Why can't I do that? — Preceding unsigned comment added by SAanEditor (talk • contribs) 16:55, 25 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Very few people "work for" Wikipedia - I certainly don't - but I've been editing on this site for 15 years or so and know, often and in general terms, what can and can't be done. Why do you want to add her site to an article about a group she was in, apparently briefly, almost 50 years ago?  This is not a blog, or a personal website - it's an encyclopedia.  Is there any information on her website about the group that would be useful to include in the article?  If there is, it could perhaps be added, with a properly formatted reference - see WP:REFSTART.  We don't add external links into article text, as has already been explained to you.  But, what I've done, now, is added a brief mention of Ms King's later career, referencing it to her site.   If you'd like to learn how to edit here, you're very welcome - but please recognise that there is quite a lot to learn about how it should be done.   Saying "I want to have a link..." begs the question "why?", and tends to suggest to other editors that your primary focus is in some way promotional rather than improving the encyclopedia. Ghmyrtle (talk) 18:46, 25 July 2021 (UTC)

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Thinking of changing my name...
...to User:Dumb Older UK Ancient ... what do you think? Ghmyrtle (talk) 17:13, 28 July 2021 (UTC)
 * User:Ignoring the video as a stubborn might be snappier? Martinevans123 (talk) 17:22, 28 July 2021 (UTC)

File on COVID-19 with legend
Hi, well how can I add the information then? could you please help me how to put the correct format on the image legend, I it is more important than that Iranian one, we are talking with facts how much the pandemic has impacted in an specific country, in this case Mexico. Which is the correct format? grettings and I await for your response. TheBellaTwins1445 (talk) 16:40, 10 August 2021 (UTC)
 * You can't have a section starting "The country's students from all educational levels...". What country?   The previous text was fine.  I think the photo of the Mexico student is OK, but its caption is far too long, and ungrammatical.  Sorry, but I suggest you spend some time improving your editing skills.  Ghmyrtle (talk) 16:48, 10 August 2021 (UTC)
 * I made the legend shorter and kept the reference. TheBellaTwins1445 (talk) 18:47, 10 August 2021 (UTC)

RFC in June 2021, concerning usage of UK in infoboxes
I'm completely peeved that I missed out on that RFC. Oh well, my participation there, wouldn't have changed the results :) GoodDay (talk) 19:26, 13 August 2021 (UTC)

Sean Lock
https://twitter.com/MetroUK/status/1427935270012342273

the tributes were dated today

https://www.instagram.com/p/CStkBa1sA4S/?utm_source=ig_embed  — Preceding unsigned comment added by RiggyTimmy (talk • contribs) 13:24, 18 August 2021 (UTC)


 * Yes, we know it was announced today. But none of the messages say when he died.  Often, announcements are made a day or two (or more) after someone dies.   Ghmyrtle (talk) 13:57, 18 August 2021 (UTC)

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Statue of Edward Colston -copyvio concerns
In these edits at Statue of Edward Colston, you copy-pasted two blocks of text as a quotation. Firstly, please add an inline citation after each separate quoted block of text, and secondly, ask yourself whether such a large amount of text is actually necessary, when a link can provide the original wording. Try to shorten lengthy mission statements and aims, and paraphrase them in your own words to avoid either WP:COPYVIOs or unnecessary text. Thanks. Nick Moyes (talk) 10:59, 31 August 2021 (UTC)
 * Given the sensitivities over this issue, which I'm sure you recognise, it is important to use the official wording of the terms of the commission, to avoid any suspicion of bias in interpretation. The spokesperson's comments added necessary clarification, but I can reword those.    Ghmyrtle (talk) 11:26, 31 August 2021 (UTC)  PS: If you want to pursue this any further, please do so on the article talk page.  Thanks.  Ghmyrtle (talk) 11:30, 31 August 2021 (UTC)
 * No, no need to pursue, but do please take care, as requested above. Many thanks. Nick Moyes (talk) 20:37, 31 August 2021 (UTC)

Inconsistency addressing
Hello - following the closure of the discussion on the use of UK, I wanted to ask you about something related but separate to the question on the addition of UK to contemporary infoboxes. I am confused as to why it is that historical biographies for people from what is today the UK are not appropriately updated to include the status of the state they were born/died in at the time. We can see that this is the case for people from every other country going, even in instances where a political state lasted just a few years, this is taken account of in the infobox. However for people from what is now the UK (but was not previously), this is not the case. A simple question - do you know why this is? Vaze50 (talk) 14:23, 31 August 2021 (UTC)
 * You need to give some examples, as I'm not sure what you mean.  Ghmyrtle (talk) 15:14, 31 August 2021 (UTC)

Mamie Stuart
Hi Guy. Hope you are well. We are trying to ascertain an exact date of birth for this person. I wonder do you have access to any genealogical resources that might help, or know of anyone else who does? The entry at FreeBMD is this one. Many thanks. Martinevans123 (talk) 15:17, 16 September 2021 (UTC)
 * The answer is probably 24 November 1893. However, the only basis I have for that is family genealogy records, which are definitely not WP:RS.  I haven't found any official sources that give that date.  Ghmyrtle (talk) 15:28, 16 September 2021 (UTC)
 * Understood, many thanks. Her remains are buried in an unmarked grave, so no clues there. I'll just who was asking. Martinevans123 (talk) 15:44, 16 September 2021 (UTC)

Union state
Please see U.K. talk page, I have made a suggested regarding the text of the note. ChefBear01 (talk) 07:30, 17 September 2021 (UTC)
 * I have commented there. Your suggestion is very poorly worded - I have already made a better suggestion.   Ghmyrtle (talk) 07:32, 17 September 2021 (UTC)

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Don't Get Personal Please
I noticed your reverts on four pages of Chesire and spotted your in my opinion, very rude wording, "Ludicrous" which means "so foolish, unreasonable, or out of place as to be amusing.". So if you are going to use little jabbing words maybe try to say it on a talk page and not your edit summaries because your clearly calling me and my edit foolish. And if you are for long wording summaries then that's fine their your pages it seems. Any edits I have made to Birkenhead Wallasey Chester Runcorn anything around the Wirral Cheshire and Merseyside articles you WP:Own them by reverting or so you seem to appear to. Sorry I offended you with non-constructive editing to be called Ludicrous maybe work on your vocabulary and be less aggressive in your edit summaries. using words like Ludicrous editing which is to me an insult. I will be taking this to Teahouse as I think you have been rude using that summary at the Chester page DragonofBatley (talk) 00:24, 29 September 2021 (UTC)
 * My apologies for upsetting you, but a wording like "Chester is a walled cathedral city in the unitary authority of Cheshire West and Chester, Cheshire, England, of which it is the county town of Cheshire" is simply not acceptable for an encyclopedia. "Ludicrous" may have been an overstatement, but it was not intended as rude to you personally.   Ghmyrtle (talk) 07:02, 29 September 2021 (UTC)

Looking ahead
Howdy. I think we may have an IP/mobile troll, with 78.86.4.35 / 2a02:c7f:8d21:7600:8c6e:2e8d:e38b:7deb, at the talkpages of United Kingdom and Great Britain articles. GoodDay (talk) 21:24, 3 October 2021 (UTC)

Jerry Yester
I thought that Jerry Yester should be classified as a former musician and convicted sex offender, because he did get convicted of child pornography offenses and he was handed a prison sentence. 220.245.23.160 (talk) 22:45, 25 October 2021 (UTC)
 * We don't edit opening sentences like that - see MOS:LEADBIO. If you still want to pursue this, make a case on the article talk page for others to comment - not here.  Thanks.   Ghmyrtle (talk) 07:53, 26 October 2021 (UTC)

Thank you. 220.245.23.160 (talk) 23:28, 26 October 2021 (UTC)

Thanks for your fixing!
Hi, just wanted to say thanks for fixing my few typos on New Brighton Pier, Wallasey‎. I thought I had picked up and corrected quite a bit before publishing, though evidently some things slipped through (no doubt I would have seen them gradually on subsequent edits), so cheers for this! Bungle (talk • contribs) 20:46, 29 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the article! Wallasey is my home town, though I don't get to go there much these days.  Ghmyrtle (talk) 22:34, 29 October 2021 (UTC)

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Love (band) current or not
I've left my opinion on the Love talk page. So you also didn't like the added context, supported by references in the lead? Or were you quick on the revert trigger? I think the lead is too short, and that if Love Revisited deserves a section of the article it deserves a sentence in the lead. Dhalamh (talk) 10:00, 2 November 2021 (UTC)
 * I'm all in favour of developing the article, and expanding the lead, but the sentence you added was in support of your opinion, which I was questioning on the talk page. Anyway, we can continue the discussion there.  I fully accept that there is an issue of consistency that needs to be resolved - it's just a matter of how best to do it.   Ghmyrtle (talk) 10:27, 2 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Ok, so instead of "In recent years, they have toured under the title of The Love Band or Love Revisited, with Johnny Echols as the only original member." you'd prefer
 * (a) "In recent years, Johnny Echols has toured performing the band's music under the titles The Love Band or Love Revisited."
 * (b) "Johnny Echols continues to tour with other musicians under the titles The Love Band or Love Revisited"? Dhalamh (talk) 13:46, 2 November 2021 (UTC)
 * See my message on the article talk page, which is conclusive I think. So, I've reverted my change.  Ghmyrtle (talk) 17:35, 2 November 2021 (UTC)

Bands and revivals
The situation with Love is probably not unusual. From the same era, see also Soft Machine, with a current band working under that name involving nobody who was involved in the original band prior to their fifth album. Then there are situations such as Edison Lighthouse where someone else acquires the rights to operate with the name. Although one can intuitively "know" which set of band members should be the focus for the Infobox and overview, it is probably hard to define a reusable rationale? AllyD (talk) 20:00, 2 November 2021 (UTC)

Ernie K Doe birth year
Re: What source do you have saying 1933? Just Google "Ernie k Doe birth year", only Wikipedia (and those citing it) are saying 1933, rest saying 1936. It's clear a significant effort was put in that plaque by his widow & family, hard to see in 2001 how they could be wrong. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.66.117.190 (talk) 02:22, 14 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Your suggestion is untrue - many sources give 1933 and, most importantly, that is the date given in the cited source, the Eagle and LeBlanc book, which any serious researcher into blues and R&B performers would see as the best source available.  His family may have been misinformed - plaques, etc., are not reliable sources.  Anyway, I've commented on the article talk page.   Ghmyrtle (talk) 08:24, 14 November 2021 (UTC)

Nationalities
Thanks for that. I fear that this one may run and run, but if so it may have to do so without me – sad to say, I don't seem to have so much wiki-time or wiki-patience left these days. I nearly left them a note about ENGVAR also, as it's another briar patch into which they are perhaps in danger of straying, but I thought it would look like I was persecuting them and being the wiki-@hole I really don't want to be, so I am leaving that one for the time being or (possibly for ever!) ... I hope it resolves peacefully, and thank you for your attention. Hope all's well with you. With all good wishes, DBaK (talk) 08:37, 17 November 2021 (UTC)

Unfair behaviour
How come you find it so fast and easy to delete my additions to Merseyside people but it’s so hard for you  to just put the out of date old boring irrelevant ones back on the ones I had to remove to put mine on ? Isn’t the whole reason it to improve Wikipedia or is it all down to the Mood of the editors?? ACtiling (talk) 21:52, 21 November 2021 (UTC)
 * You don't have to remove them! Just add new ones.  In the right place.  It is not difficult.  If you can't perform basic editing tasks, don't bother.  It's an encyclopedia, not a playpen!  Ghmyrtle (talk) 22:39, 21 November 2021 (UTC)

Why not engage with me ?
How come some one from Liverpool is not aloud to add to there own page and edit why it it left to the mood of you ? I have seen the insults about me not having a clue on how to edit but I k ow my own city and its history and should be aloud to contribute without upsetting yourselves just because you have to put some out of date boring irrelevant ones you insit on leaving on .. the list was a mess before I got involved full of people not even from liverpool but that does not bother your Little edit group ACtiling (talk) 22:01, 21 November 2021 (UTC)
 * "Allowed". "Their".  "Insist".  Merseyside is not just Liverpool.  And it is not "your own page".   Ghmyrtle (talk) 22:31, 21 November 2021 (UTC)

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 * I have now removed the text concerned. Ghmyrtle (talk) 13:04, 23 November 2021 (UTC)

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Phil Chen
Phil Chen was born 10/21/46 and was 75 at the time of death on 12/14/21. Source: his family has been trying to correct this all day. Please refer to his official Facebook page where we have added his correct birth date: https://www.facebook.com/PhilChenBass/posts/343054860962894

Thank You. 68.7.231.151 (talk) 22:46, 15 December 2021 (UTC)


 * Moving this to article talk page. The point is that reliable published sources give his age as 80, not 75.  Ghmyrtle (talk) 22:52, 15 December 2021 (UTC)

Talk:Peter Parcek
Can I draw your attention to the recently posted section on this talk page. As I created the article in April 2021, then I would appreciate someone else's comment, as my views may be somewhat defensive or otherwise skewed. I would point out that the editor, as is noted on the page, is the article's subject matter.

If you do not have the time or inclination, then I fully understand. Best wishes of the season. Regards,

Derek R Bullamore (talk) 14:27, 18 December 2021 (UTC)


 * Will do, when and if I can find some time (or I'm locked down...). His comments aren't exactly formatted in a reader-friendly way, are they?!  Ghmyrtle (talk) 09:22, 19 December 2021 (UTC)


 * No, not really. My Christmas present was seeing this subsequent exchange at User talk:Ppguitar, which you should be aware of, if you have the time. The comment "I notice in Kirk Fletcher's bio on Wiki that his "for hire" work is not included".  That would be the Kirk Fletcher article I created then, would it ? No pressure, Guy - I have largely lost interest in trying to defend myself here. However, Happy New Year, old boy.  I hope you are hail and hearty (if someone can not spell my name correctly, why should I bother with spelling). Regards, Disgruntled from East Yorkshire. - Derek R Bullamore (talk) 00:10, 4 January 2022 (UTC)


 * I really don't want to get involved in the Parcek article. My only advice would be to simply exclude any sections of text where his opinion differs from that in published reliable sources.  Less can be more, in other words.   Happy New Year!  Ghmyrtle (talk) 15:27, 5 January 2022 (UTC)

Ivor Waters and Piercefield
Morning,

You don’t happen to have, or have access to, the Ivor Waters books referenced in the Piercefield article? They both appear to have been published in Chepstow, the former by the Chepstow Society. I’ve just ordered a, rather battered, copy of the Valentine Morris from eBay, but I doubt it will arrive before Christmas. The second one is referenced in the sources but not actually used, the first needs page numbers. Good to see, from the Chepstow War Memorial sources, that the Chepstow Society is still flourishing! All the best. KJP1 (talk) 06:36, 19 December 2021 (UTC)
 * I think I have the Piercefield booklet, but not the Valentine Morris one.  I will check...  Yes, I quite enjoy being kept busy!.   Ghmyrtle (talk) 09:28, 19 December 2021 (UTC)

Merry Christmas and Happy New Year
About time that Benny got his own question on Christmas University Challenge.So here's some lovely traditional Christmas music for you (original video also available). Martinevans123 (talk) 22:35, 21 December 2021 (UTC) It's like 1970 all over again!

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