User talk:Ghostexorcist/Archive 9

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Heads up on Shaolin etc.
It looks like the latest "Bodhidharma invented kungfu!!!11!" editor is switching from TLDR on Talk pages to article space edits, complete with the same OR/SYNTH and misrepresentation of sources. Ergative rlt (talk) 15:52, 29 September 2010 (UTC)

Good edit
. It took some effort to refrain from going off on the Midianites and Numbers 31, and the various Acts where there is anything but harmony between Jews and early Christians in the Bible... --Stephan Schulz (talk) 16:38, 15 October 2010 (UTC)


 * Thank you for the complement. My patients has been tempered in the fires of a recent futile discussion on another article. --Ghostexorcist (talk) 16:45, 15 October 2010 (UTC)


 * I left some comments about that at the Siege of Jerusalem article (I happened to see Santiago's post there first). This one is actually pretty simple and there are plenty of evidence against Santiago's arguments. Unfortunately most of my books are packed away in boxes again, but I'll see what I can pull up. Adam Bishop (talk) 17:57, 15 October 2010 (UTC)

Proposed merge of List of magical negro archetypes in fiction into Magical negro
Hi,

As you have recently edited one of the two articles mentioned, I am notifying you of the proposed merger. Please comment at Talk:Magical negro. Thank you, Bigger digger (talk) 17:24, 1 November 2010 (UTC)

"Ignorance, Legend, and Taijiquan"
Hi Ghostexorcist.

I asked on Talk:Wudang_chuan about the journal where Stanley Henning's "Ignorance, Legend, and Taijiquan" was published -- I'm wondering whether it should be considered a reliable source. All I can really find out about it from my lazy google searching is the PDFs of articles from it. I know you referred to Henning's article when we talked about Bodhidharma and Shaolin; do you happen to know any more about the "Chenstyle Taijiquan Research Association of Hawaii" or why it should be considered reliable?

Thanks. Subverdor (talk) 04:17, 4 November 2010 (UTC)

Merge of Hell Scrolls
Hi Ghostexorcist! You merged Hell Scroll with Jigoku-zoshi with comment: "I merged the pages. There is no need to have two articles on the same subject". However these articles were about different works of art and should not be merged! Could you please undo the merge? Hell Scroll is the scroll located at the Nara National Museum while Jigoku-zoshi is the one at the Tokyo National Museum. Have a look at List of National Treasures of Japan (paintings) which lists both scrolls. I agree that the names of the articles are very badly chosen and should probably be changed to something like Hell Scroll (Tokyo National Museum) and Hell Scroll (Nara National Museum) to avoid confusion in the future. bamse (talk) 03:27, 8 November 2010 (UTC)


 * Done. --Ghostexorcist (talk) 03:50, 8 November 2010 (UTC)


 * Thanks. Will add some text to these articles to distinguish the two better and might move them to new names. bamse (talk) 12:03, 8 November 2010 (UTC)

Talkback
Linkdude20002001 (talk) 18:39, 12 November 2010 (UTC)

Zhang SanFeng Myth
Hey Ghost, Would you please be so kind as to add the citation from Shahar's book to the Wudangquan intro to further clarifiy Zhang San Feng had nothing to do with martial arts ? I think you said it was The Shaolin Monastery. These guys want to intro to reflect the possibility that ZSF really created taiji. The intro should state the ZSF legend as historical myth and nothing else. TommyKirchhoff (talk) 14:41, 15 November 2010 (UTC)


 * I've been in touch with Henning over the last few months. He's pretty interesting, albeit curmudgeonly. BTW, I saw the mess you got into on the Chinese martial arts page. I see why you want to stay neutral :) These Wudang Gongfu guys drive me crazy trying to stuff their religion down everyone's throats...TommyKirchhoff (talk) 23:40, 17 November 2010 (UTC)


 * I write to Henning occassionally when I have a question I think he might be able to answer. I also write to him just to say "hi" sometimes. He is always going off on some sort of adventure (something that I long to do myself). He recently came back from a long trek across the Silk Road. I also write to Brian Kennedy and Meir Shahar. It's good to become acquanted with the professionals.


 * Prior to the Chinese martial arts fiasco, I had a long debate with Subverdor over the Bodhidharma myth. After these two events, I'm done with arguing for a while. If anyone wants to debate the matter in the future, I will just link them to those two discussions. --Ghostexorcist (talk) 01:03, 18 November 2010 (UTC)
 * It's so great that you talk to Henning, Kennedy and Shahar ! Wow. Oh, man, I can't stop laughing. I'm only but a mere armchair philologist, and even less of a Chinese historian; but I would love to be in contact with you outside this cage called WP. If you feel like it, I'm at help@HealingExericse.org ...still laughing...TommyKirchhoff (talk) 04:21, 18 November 2010 (UTC)


 * I am simply an armchair historian myself. My field of research encompasses literature, folklore, and history, as these three tend to be the sources of most martial arts legends. Although the focus of my research is narrow, I have a general interest in all martial arts history, even those of Europe.


 * Thank you for your email. You can contact me by clicking on the mailbox picture in the upper right hand corner of this page. The link will take you to WP's own proxy webmail service. Whatever message you type will be sent directly to my personal email address. --Ghostexorcist (talk) 05:09, 18 November 2010 (UTC)

Translation of Yue Fei novel title
Hi Ghost, what I meant was that I thought the title meant "the story of Yue Fei, who restored the Song dynasty", rather than "Yue Fei, of the restored Song Dynasty". That is to say, I don't disagree that it was the Song Dynasty that was restored. However, I read the title as crediting the restoration to Yue Fei, rather than merely placing Yue Fei within the context of a restored Song Dynasty. Sorry for the confusion. I am only going off the title, I have not read the text so I don't know if it provides further clues about the precise meaning of the title. --PalaceGuard008 (Talk) 17:55, 15 November 2010 (UTC)

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Sun Wukong, Depiction & Patriarch Bodhi
Hi Ghost, I think you are being a dictator in trying to revert my changes without prior discussion. I am requesting that you do not further revert my changes. My argument on why the new depiction you use is inaccurate is because the Japanese depiction put Sun Wukong, an originally Chinese culturally character and a patron deity in Buddhist/Chinese beliefs, in a bad light, depicting Sun Wukong as a feral and ratlike creature. This is inaccurate, and neither is the lunar rabbit canonical nor crucial to the depiction of Sun Wukong. The earlier depiction is more accurate, and shows him in his famous "far-seeing" pose that is typical in his statues as depicted classically and in his temples in Hong Kong and Malaysia. Lordadvantine (talk) 23:20, 23 December 2010 (UTC)


 * Before you revert the changes again on arguing whether Patriarch Bodhi is a Taoist sage, please provide your own sources to back-up your statement that Patriarch Bodhi was indeed Taoist (which English translation edition was this of the original text?). As you do know, if you have read the text in the entirety, the story of Journey To The West is largely inclined towards a Buddhist context than a Taoism context, though set within Chinese cultural beliefs. The conclusion also at the end states that both Sun Wukong and Xuanzang achieves Enlightenment and become Buddhas(or more accurately Arahants) in their own rights. These circumstances and general Buddhist orientation of Journey to the West lends further credence that Patriarch Bodhi was most likely a Buddhist sage than a Taoist one. But I am referring here to what devotees of Sun Wukong, in his form as a Buddhist protector and patron saint against evil, believe, in that Patriarch Bodhi was most likely Subhuti or the Mahayana Chan Buddhism Patriach Bodhi-Dharma. Lordadvantine (talk) 23:20, 23 December 2010 (UTC)


 * I am not being a "dictator" of anything (WP:Civil), I am simply trying to revert the page to the most stable version until we can come to an agreement. See Talk:Sun Wukong. --Ghostexorcist (talk) 06:55, 24 December 2010 (UTC)

Fringe?
I'm not too familiar with 's edits, but what I've seen generally seem pretty level-headed, so I was surprised that "everything" he's edited is suspected of being WP:FRINGE. Since you look to be familiar with his edits, you may want to check out the discussion that's started at the fringe theories noticeboard. Ergative rlt (talk) 03:19, 27 December 2010 (UTC)

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