User talk:Giano II/archive 2

From January 1st 2005

Did you know..?
Aha! I see the Mistley towers are squaring up to kick Anne Bracegirdle off the front page, have you no shame?--Bishonen | Talk 16:34, 1 Jan 2005 (UTC)


 * You're not serious, I hope? Kids don't get the dreaded m-word just like that, no cause for worry, I trust. I'm sorry you feel bad, I hope it's just one of those famous champaigne migraines, and will fade with the day.--Bishonen | Talk 17:19, 1 Jan 2005 (UTC)

Mistley Towers
Re-connecting with my roots: my mother is an Essex girl. And yes she does wear shell suits. -- Graham &#9786; | Talk 18:07, 1 Jan 2005 (UTC)

M
Oh, meningitis, since you mention a teenager and breathing. I'm glad I misunderstood. Anne Bracegirdle is still holding the fort on the Main Page, I see! Wait till your towers replace her, then it'll be their turn to get edited by all passers-by. I think it's her picture being there that draws the crowds. What's a "piece de toute droit"? Unfortunately I'm not familiar with these ancien regime expressions. Something to do with droit de seigneur, perhaps. Have fun, feel better, sorry about all the champaigne.--Bishonen | Talk 20:58, 1 Jan 2005 (UTC)
 * Well, I thought you'd noticed her since you commented on the template posted about her on my Talk. Of course the Towers will arrive there, the only question is whether they'll use the picture: that depends totally on whether other simultaneous contributors have also offered pics. What happened to John Vanbrugh? How very à propos you ask! I just had a spat with Raul on the subject, check out his proposal here for recycling the most interesting articles in preference to using the dime-a-dozen type articles. Well, I e-mailed you about that a while back. The aproposness is that I reopened the subject just a few hours ago with a note directly to Raul, asking if the message was correct that I was getting from the fact that he wasn't answering questions, and he didn't appreciate my "accusatory tone". He's not used to it, I'm sure. I just wanted to know, actually, I couldn't see any other way than to ask and put it very directly (the people who didn't do that didn't get any replies at all). Of course I didn't mention JV, but it was that that I had in mind. I don't care about Restoration comedy.--Bishonen | Talk 23:42, 1 Jan 2005 (UTC)
 * Yes, yes, stand on the sidelines and snigger, that's fine. That must have been the first time I created a cat, when was yours? I really didn't think it would work, it seemed deeply mysterious and at the same time much too simple.--Bishonen | Talk 23:46, 1 Jan 2005 (UTC)
 * Looking for Restoration plays seems a waste of modesty and kindness, why don't you spend the time reading Colley Cibber instead, if it's penance you want, and let me know what you think of it. (I got tired of seeing the redlink to Anne Bracegirdle in that, that's the only reason I did a modest page on her.)--Bishonen | Talk 11:17, 2 Jan 2005 (UTC)
 * And there are the Towers on the Main Page right now, looking good! (Don't worry about my lacerated feelings, I'm just going to imagine poor disgraced Anne is in one of the towers.)--Bishonen | Talk 12:12, 2 Jan 2005 (UTC)

Request for comment
Hi, Wet, Geogre, and Giano, please excuse a three-person multi-user message or microspam. In case you made a New Year's resolution to help the harrassed, I just thought you might want to redeem it by taking a look at Requests for comment/Chan Han Xiang and, less importantly, Chan Han Xiang's retaliatory RfC Requests for comment/Gtabary. I don't know the principals, never had speech with or saw them around (maybe Geogre did on VfD) but it's not getting a lot of attention--a little more after I asked dab to take a look this morning (European morning)--and I can't help but feel sorry for the guy who tried to help a countryman and fell through into the fourth dimension. We all know what even much milder cases of that feel like, and this user doesn't seem to have much of a wiki support network. Well, that's how it looks to me, but you'll form your own opinion, if you should feel like making this your good deed of the day. Best wishes,--Bishonen | Talk 15:26, 2 Jan 2005 (UTC)

Quainton
Oh but you knew I would eventually... -- Francs2000 | Talk 15:15, 5 Jan 2005 (UTC)


 * What wonderful photographs Giacomo, what a talented photographer you are -- Francs2000 | Talk 15:25, 5 Jan 2005 (UTC)


 * Actually I remember the event happening and almost went myself, alas backing out at the last minute because I don't know anyone from Quainton and my last ancestor who lives there died in 1662. -- Francs2000 | Talk 15:59, 5 Jan 2005 (UTC)


 * Oh right the event I was on about was the Millennium gathering in the village. Hadn't noticed the blocked-out-hearse so you must have done a good job. -- Francs2000 | Talk  16:09, 5 Jan 2005 (UTC)

Same boat
Hi Giacom'. User:Edward is up for adminship on Requests for adminship, in case you want to go vote for him, for being in the same boat with you! He mentions the incident there, in replying to the standard question if any user has "caused him stress".--Bishonen | Talk 01:28, 6 Jan 2005 (UTC)
 * "During the early 18th century a building contractor was far more responsible than the title suggests today"—nice shot! :-) Having trouble with the builders, are we?--Bishonen | Talk 01:34, 6 Jan 2005 (UTC)

Matt
You're a hoot, Drac, remember how we both said the exact same thing when John Vanbrugh was on FAC, and then Palladian architecture? There's always this delay time. If you're not careful I'll share some indigenuos Sami folk saying about how the skis never glide smoothly first thing out of the hut. Oh, yes, I will. You can run but you can't hide.--Bishonen | Talk 12:44, 7 Jan 2005 (UTC)


 * There's a real purty picture of the insides of York House here, don't know if you're interested. The date is a little off (1759, but maybe they just got it wrong), and I guess it would in any case really be Norfolk House that you'd want. Decorative, though.--Bishonen | Talk 13:56, 7 Jan 2005 (UTC)

Baroque Collaboration of the Week
Please help bring this stub to Featured article standard!--Bishonen | Talk 00:13, 10 Jan 2005 (UTC)
 * On which were hung sheets of decorated parchment? Sheets of Restoration comedy, you mean. You won't believe this, Dracula: German wikipedians like culture articles, unlike around here. John Vanbrugh and several others have been translated, check it out! Apparently, when an article exists in another language version, there's a heading "other languages" below "toolbox" on the left, just click on "Deutsch"! I don't set up for a judge of German, but the translations look very good to me. I wrote to the translator, who has replied on my Talk page. Apparently he/she is picking them from the Featured article page.--Bishonen | Talk 08:54, 10 Jan 2005 (UTC)

Hello
Hi there - yes, I am still around. I was quite busy at work before Christmas, and then took an extended break over Christmas and the New Year, popping back here occasionally. I'm still officially "taking a wikivacation" because I'm not able to give WP the time it deserves: I'm beginning to think that this may become a permanent state of affairs, and I will always be a WP dilettante... -- ALoan (Talk) 12:15, 10 Jan 2005 (UTC)

Reply
I've taken a couple of breaks before, but always come back and would like to improve Ezra Pound and William Carlos Williams after I finish The Cantos, so we'll see. But I am a bit depressed with the legalism that seems to be rampant here at the moment and the American/Christian/ Right-wing/Pop culture mindsets that tend to dominate; and then you have the idiots who know nothing and edit everything. Oh well. What are you working on now? Filiocht 11:03, Jan 12, 2005 (UTC)


 * Enjoy your stay in the belly of the beast! I'm Irish, but I drink very little and do not have red hair, so where does that leave me? Looks like you have a new FA to add to your list, anyway. And a fine article it is, too. I'm off home now. Filiocht 16:26, Jan 12, 2005 (UTC)

Mme de Staël
Gosh, Giano, I always thought old European aristocracy was a specialty of yours, I even had some idea that Mme de Staël might be one of your ancienne maitresses. Well, thence the huge bells, perhaps. Remember her collection of those lovely Palladian artefacts?--Bishonen | Talk 21:03, 12 Jan 2005 (UTC)


 * I'm sorry you're bored in a boring place, and the jetlag/no sleeping thing must be a horror. Why not amuse yourself by writing me a clever e-mail, or go on Peer review and get yourself karma for helping out. Or of course, edit our budding new art FA, help build Wikipedia. (Remember no cats.) If you do it first, I'll put in some more tomorrow. --Bishonen | Talk 23:22, 12 Jan 2005 (UTC)

Matthew Brettingham
Congratulations. Filiocht 13:23, Jan 13, 2005 (UTC)

Matty did OK, didn't he!
Matthew Brettingham did OK! The translated John Vanbrugh is now on some sort of "Review" page at the German wiki, and the translator expresses plans for nominating it as a Featured Article Candidate next. :-) I'm betting it'll be on the de.wikipedia's Main Page before it's on ours.--Bishonen | Talk 03:56, 14 Jan 2005 (UTC)

Wanted
Oh, there you are, Monte Christo, fantastic. I was about ready to send out a Wanted alert. You actually edited the German John Vanbrugh? That I have to see. I'll go look. My German is up to reading only, and that's on a good day. It takes me an hour to compose a four-word sentence with an auxiliary verb in it. You have to take a look at this link (same as above), last entry on the page, see how happy the translator was to hear from Bishonen! Go on, fill his/her cup to overflowing, let 'em hear from Conte Giacomo, too.--Bishonen | Talk 07:54, 14 Jan 2005 (UTC)

Cantos
Thanks for the kind words. I'm currently lost in the world of medieval philosophy on the relationship between light, love, sight and the divine mind. If you find anything in an airport bookshop, let me know!. My own library is the fruit of long hours in secondhand bookshops combined with the generosity of my fellow poets.

You do not read The Cantos for fun, believe me, but they are interesting for a person with my tastes, and historically important. By the way, Pound preferred Romanesque buildings to Baroque on the grounds that the latter represented an abandonment of the world of intellectual clarity and light/brightness for a set of valuse that centred around hell and the increasing dominance of society by bankers, a breed he despised. I wonder what your archetictural opinion of this is? Filiocht 10:11, Jan 14, 2005 (UTC)


 * It's worth remembering that Pound was kept in a mental hospital for 13 years! Now you know why. Filiocht 10:40, Jan 14, 2005 (UTC)


 * I note you're still not sleeping properly given that you are here at what must be 5:00 or so there? I bet you'll be glad to get home, anyway. Filiocht 11:01, Jan 14, 2005 (UTC)

I just came over to say the same thing: what are you doing editing in the small hours, working on that ulcer?--Bishonen | Talk 12:22, 14 Jan 2005 (UTC)

The Drake
Don't get "The Drake". Another objet d'art article? Delighted to hear about the hash browns, though as Leslie Howard says "What, no kippers?" No e-mail, no.--Bishonen | Talk 15:53, 14 Jan 2005 (UTC)

Owner bites
Did you see this?--Bishonen | Talk 10:20, 15 Jan 2005 (UTC)

Oh, go categorize yourself. You put a stub template on that page, expecting other people to do your work for you and fill it out, didn't you? I'm quite busy enough adding content to some lovely baroque pages. I've spent the last ten hours detailing Erich von Däniken's alien visitation theory in explanation of the remarkable, though superficial, resemblance of the Blenheim holder to a modern toilet roll holder, 200 years before the epoch-making invention of the toilet roll itself. Why don't you go do something equally useful, instead of keeping up this insulting and distressing barrage?--Bishonen | Talk 16:07, 15 Jan 2005 (UTC) (PS: especially since I've been trying to save this for 30 minutes now!) (Actually it turned into more like 90 minutes.)

Don't edit fast enough?
I'm amazed anybody can edit at all, it's been mostly impossible from here. So, finally you get yours, for nominating Heiner Benking for deletion! The Erynnies are slow but they don't kid about.--Bishonen | Talk 21:14, 15 Jan 2005 (UTC)

Egyptology
You da man, Pharaoh! :-D I'll see this on the Main Page if it kills me.--Bishonen | Talk 17:40, 16 Jan 2005 (UTC)

Crapper
Now look.

Removing Fathers for justice and leaving tph's? Well, cool by me, your call.--Bishonen | Talk 20:59, 19 Jan 2005 (UTC)
 * That was very nice of you, to rewrite rather than revert my addition. I was so conscience-stricken that I restored a touch of your auntie Olga's generous entertainment practices.--Bishonen | Talk 04:32, 20 Jan 2005 (UTC)
 * Thanks, glad you liked it--the e-mail contribution I got needed a little de-academizing, so that's what I did. We don't want to activate people's automatic suspicion of academia, or have them guffaw at explicit words, but on the contrary to see (either the door or the wall), and to rethink their own prurient sniggering at these subjects. Did you notice my reference for it, pursuant to a hint of yours? :-) --Bishonen | Talk 07:46, 21 Jan 2005 (UTC)
 * I totally agree, you'd better put in your Freud, I think I'm done for today. I've just expanded the account of the Palladian tph with the true story of how one of them changed the course of European history and scared Queen Elizabeth I off the idea of making you Brits half-Swedes. Y'all might today have been wearing wigs made of polar bear pelt in the High Court if it hadn't been for Palladio.--Bishonen | Talk 13:59, 21 Jan 2005 (UTC)

Deutsch John Vanbrugh
Voting for Featured article has commenced on the German FAC page.--Bishonen | Talk 15:20, 21 Jan 2005 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the tip, doing my bull in chinashop act. Bishonen | Talk 20:06, 21 Jan 2005 (UTC)

Linkspam
I despair too, at the strange linkspam on my page. I don't doubt that the interesting bits you keep mentioning are in there somewhere, but they're too well hidden for my search skills, you'll just have to point me to them.--Bishonen | Talk P. S. So is Auntie Olga the same person as Ma Di Dracula in Alabama? That would make her about 110 years old, but, heck, why not.11:34, 22 Jan 2005 (UTC)

Wikipedia talk:Featured articles
Yeah!! What Giano said! And dedicated hoaxers will become tired and leave too! And furthermore, protecting the Main Page article would avert such horrible humiliations as having Restoration comedy on the Main page, unprotected, and hardly get it vandalized at all! (Actually for technical reasons it was protected for part of the day, but that's neither here nor there.) Even vandals don't give a piss about my obscure plays—yeah, I needed to know that! Not!--Bishonen | Talk 12:52, 22 Jan 2005 (UTC)
 * Dear Mrs di Dracula, I do apologize for offending you. I was attempting in my uncouth way to pay your esteemed twin sister a compliment, and celebrate her wonderful stamina in being as young at heart as ever at, as I supposed, 110 years of age. Please understand that I am of a primitive, nomadic culture, we follow the reindeer herds and hear little of the great world, and indeed have a poor grasp of those aristocratic manners and culture so wonderfully represented by your sister and yourself. Do tell me, has your sister left any unusual artefacts in your keeping? From the old country? A research project which Count D and I have undertaken is in desperate need of pictures—drawings, photographs, anything—of our wonderful subject (which is however neither novelty items nor sex toys!). Il conte will inform you further, when he thaws out. --Bishonen | Talk 20:39, 22 Jan 2005 (UTC)
 * Re: immense amounts of wine vs something missing: yeah, both. I probably ought to research the reason for it, but it's difficult, I'll just see if anything transpires.--Bishonen | Talk 08:05, 23 Jan 2005 (UTC)

Von M. branch of the family located in Germany
Hey, that's one far-flung family you've got, I just noticed there's a German branch!--Bishonen | Talk 14:01, 24 Jan 2005 (UTC)

Genial idé
OK, kolla ungdom sända med posten själv.--Bishonen | Talk 15:09, 26 Jan 2005 (UTC)

Photographs
Just one problem with that: my computer tends to crash every time I upload images from the digital camera. Plus it's winter and Buckinghamshire looks shit in the rain. -- Francs2000 | Talk 03:26, 27 Jan 2005 (UTC)

Seaton Delaval Hall photo
So we're experiencing an infamous urge to show up my parochialism by communicating in German, are we? Good one, but don't worry, von M. will get what's coming to him, I'll think of something. Bishonen | Talk 08:07, 27 Jan 2005 (UTC)

Palladian architecture
Chuckle chuckle chuckle. You are so cooked. Try babelfishing cousin Prahlhans von M. into the fray on that one.--Bishonen | Talk 08:46, 28 Jan 2005 (UTC)

Immense picture gallery or just decent-sized?
Hey, which is it, 155 yards or 50 metres? Are the other metres (Blue Drawing Room 21 meters) right?--Bishonen | Talk 11:15, 28 Jan 2005 (UTC)

Buckingham Palace
Very well, if you insist, I won't move that page today. The new Ceremonies section brought a fit of hysterical weeping rather than just a tear. It will be my pleasure to introduce a few erections there, and end on the consolation of being able to admire the manured gardens. Of course you realize the whole article is a bit of a tease, with all those gorgeous fitments and appointments always hinting at, yet never fully confronting, the question of tph's. Bishonen | Talk 19:47, 28 Jan 2005 (UTC)
 * Hey, it looks like jeffmedkeff deleted your paragraph about the Beatles smoking pot amongst the gorgeous bathroom fitments, did you notice? I think it was probably an edit conflict accident, as you guys saved just one minute apart (=in practice, probably pressed Save simultaneously). I'll put it back, shall I? Maybe you'd better check that nothing else untoward happened. --Bishonen | Talk 21:03, 28 Jan 2005 (UTC)
 * I have put the Beatles back. You want to have a think about how to capitalize the names for the rooms? Compare the green drawing room, The Green Drawing Room, or the Green Drawing Room. I don't much like the middle one, but it's not like it matters. Checking if the latest guide book has a consistent system and going with that might be the simplest. Oh, and I know FAC voters will nag about having all measurements in both yards and metres, but it's the kind of thing they'll enjoy fixing up themselves, I say we let 'em get on with it. --Bishonen | Talk 21:46, 28 Jan 2005 (UTC)
 * Furthermore also, please check out the Commonwealth Prime Ministers photo caption. Churchill's never on the right, so I switched left/right, but I dunno what anybody else is supposed to look like. Bishonen | Talk 22:42, 28 Jan 2005 (UTC)

Doing the shakey shakey rep
Oh, those copyedits to the Shakey Lead look good, don't they? It's a pity people feel it necessary to write rude edit summaries, I suppose, but it's no big deal. Anyway, that Lead needs more than just a massage, I've got it decomposing in a text editor already. Oh, and I saw, when you changed it back, that Churchill is on her right, of course. P.S. "Including one who wished to propose marriage to Princess Anne, he was declared insane"? All right, funny man, that's quite enough anti-royalist sentiment out of you. Bishonen | Talk 14:12, 29 Jan 2005 (UTC)
 * Just realized BP has the Royal Family, the Royal family, and the royal family, you got any preference? I like the last, but that could be my bolshevism.--Bishonen | Talk 14:59, 29 Jan 2005 (UTC)
 * Totally agree about royal family, I'll do a quick run-through for that later, dangerously many people seem to be editing the article right now! Please let me have your thoughts also on "parliament" versus "Parliament", I think probably the second. And please note something crook about the very last sentence, I don't quite know what to do there.--Bishonen | Talk 15:45, 29 Jan 2005 (UTC)


 * It's "Royal Family" (as in British Royal Family) and "Parliament". Proteus (Talk) 17:29, 29 Jan 2005 (UTC)
 * Technically and properly it's "The Queen", but "the Queen" is also common. Proteus (Talk) 18:06, 29 Jan 2005 (UTC)
 * What you've done seems like the best way to me (except perhaps that the "HM" to start with probably isn't necessary, and certainly isn't worth keeping if it produces negative comments on WP:FAC, which it probably would), and calling her "The Queen" subsequently is perfecly reasonable - if the Duke of Wellington were mentioned, we could call him "the Duke of Wellington" initially and "the Duke" subsequently, and this is very similar. Proteus (Talk) 19:37, 29 Jan 2005 (UTC)

Buckingham Palace
Hi there - Your (and Bishonen's) articles are always so interesting. -- ALoan (Talk) 12:40, 30 Jan 2005 (UTC)
 * re explicit dates: no problem - having done the research and found the links I thought it was worth putting the exact dates in; however, given that the other incidents only have a year, leaving out the day and month is fine. I think names, where they are known, are rather important, so I am glad you have left them in.
 * I had noticed the piped "fathers4justice|single fathers" link and thought it was a very good solution. I have sympathy too: the system seems to be very broken.
 * FAC: I think it is almost ready. If length is a going to be problem, part can always be spun out to, say History of Buckingham Palace.  I know, you don't want it atomised, but that is what summary style is all about.
 * Capital letters: I think rooms ought to be capitalised: they are the rooms' Proper Names. I think the Queen should be "the Queen" (Her Majesty (or HM) the Queen the first time).  Capitalised "The" seems a bit OTT, but I won't object.

John Day
Cool.--Bishonen | Talk 16:23, 30 Jan 2005 (UTC)

Picture of the (John) Day
Hi, Giano. Thanks for the support on John Day. I'm still a tiny bit concerned about the picture--if you get a chance, would you mind going to the article and clinking on the picture (which should take you to the original, un-thumb-ified version). Do you see the original or not? PRiis 03:30, 2 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Thanks again for re-doing and uploading the new John Day picture. I've marked the old one for speedy deletion. PRiis 17:43, 3 Feb 2005 (UTC)

"Read only" imminent
OK. No, I haven't done anything, I've been out. I'm leaving it to PRiis to take stock of, when he looks in. Wikipedia will go "Read only" in ten minutes or so, according to Jamesday (developer), and stay like that for 20 minutes (yeah, that'll be the best-case scenario, I guess). So, now is not a good time to start any big-ass editing. Piping hot IRC info just for you, Drac. Bishonen | Talk 15:06, 2 Feb 2005 (UTC)
 * C'est magnifique! All it took to turn you into an image specialist was a crack about fine wining and dining. I pat myself on the back.--Bishonen | Talk 20:30, 2 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Hi again
Response for you, Giano at User talk:Quill Quill 22:12, 3 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Fun
Please do not get me wrong. Serious research is my idea of fun; the more obscure the topic, the more fun it is. I bet you had fun with those nice English bobbies, didn't you? Filiocht 12:41, Feb 11, 2005 (UTC)


 * Did you get to film them at their truncheons? Filiocht 13:19, Feb 11, 2005 (UTC)


 * How wonderful. Filiocht 13:36, Feb 11, 2005 (UTC)

Bucks image library
Great new images for Crafton and Wing (you knew it wouldn't have taken me long to notice...). Did you know that there is now an image library for Buckinghamshire images? It's at this long address which you may want to bookmark. I've added those that you've uploaded today, it would be great to get all Bucks images on there for future reference. -- Francs2000 | Talk 17:14, 11 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Great Billington
You and your villages...! What a fantastically cool parish church. :-) As for my page, I keep archiving it, I archive it practically daily, can I help it if I'm so madly popular that it just keeps filling up? You are so lucky not to have that problem. Bishonen | Talk 20:58, 15 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Bath
This article is slowly getting better and better - the main withstanding critique is the lack of information on architecture, for which the city is famous. Bishonen suggested at Peer Review that I "rope you in", as an architecture buff, to do some work on it - if you get any time this would be greatly appreciated. --Oldak Quill 12:51, 17 Feb 2005 (UTC)
 * (Evil cackle. Bishonen | Talk 13:06, 17 Feb 2005 (UTC))
 * Who did? Typing in class again, I won't see your reply for a while, and I don't get the bish e-mail here at all. Bishonen | Talk 13:12, 17 Feb 2005 (UTC)
 * Thought that was what you meant, I was watching, too. Bishonen | Talk 13:17, 17 Feb 2005 (UTC)
 * Incidentally, isn't a special Privy Council a very nice thing to have? Bishonen | Talk 15:57, 17 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Buckingham Palace
...has all but disappeared!! What have you done? -- ALoan (Talk) 20:01, 17 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Funny you should mention it
I'd just sent an e-mail to one of parties, with whom I'm slightly and pleasantly acquainted, 10 seconds before receiving your message. Not about anything much really, just to ask if "where" meant anything in particular. No, nothing will have to be done, nothing can usefully be done, what are you talking about, you deranged deleter of Royal palaces? Bishonen | Talk 16:00, 18 Feb 2005 (UTC)
 * I understand, I too am being rewarded with a wiki orgy (partly spent in the IRC snakepit :-)) after a nose to the grindstone week. Adding a little content to a secret page with more Restoration porn on it. But in a short while I'll be going out to a restaurant meal with friends, you'll have to guard the madhousepedia all by yourself for a few hours. Bishonen | Talk 16:15, 18 Feb 2005 (UTC)
 * Oh, I'm sure you've got Liz Two in bed with you, you get no sympathy from me. Hey, I'm just writing here about the humiliation and trauma of the Royalists under Oliver Cromwell, it's very soothing. :-) Bishonen | Talk 16:25, 18 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Liliput Liz
I can't stand it, it's driving me mad! Mad, I tell you! Lifesize Liz staring at me all the time from my Talk page! Her eyes following me wherever I go! I have to do something... something.... arrrrhhh... done! It's done, it's over! And I'm glad! Glad, do you hear me? As long as she remains the "The", you're satisfied, I hope! Bishonen | Talk 16:18, 19 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Scraping the bottom of the barrel
They must be all out of minor royalty and scientology. Bishonen | Talk 04:22, 20 Feb 2005 (UTC)
 * Yeah, I'm just now combing his wig and cleaning his nails to be ready for having a bucket of slops upended over him. Well, you wanted to see him there didn't you? Me too. I suppose it's a satisfaction, even though too late to be a pleasure. Bishonen | Talk 09:27, 20 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Avanti popolo!
Cool stuff, but what's it for? Bandiera rossa
 * Oh, I see. I've just checked my e-mail, thirty seconds after posting the above. Bishonen | Talk 18:44, 20 Feb 2005 (UTC)
 * Oh your maternal reply? Nemas problemas, here it is. Didn't I already explain what happened to the History in words of one syllable? Never mind, I'll do it again, watch your e-mail. Bishonen | Talk 21:19, 20 Feb 2005 (UTC)

The Cantos
Thanks for your typically understated remarks on Peer review. Filiocht 09:09, Feb 23, 2005 (UTC)
 * The Mediterranean love of understatement is a clear parallel of our own Celtic one, as I learned when I lived in Barcelona a couple of decades ago. Nice to see that John Van is going to make the Main page soon, by the way. Filiocht 09:39, Feb 23, 2005 (UTC)

John Vanbrugh
Congratulations on Main page today. Filiocht 08:27, Feb 25, 2005 (UTC)
 * I'll try to keep an eye on it over the next few hours. Filiocht 09:23, Feb 25, 2005 (UTC)
 * Most of what you reverted was crud, just lost a small edit begun => began. I'll leave it to save my last two reverts for more vandalism. Filiocht 09:30, Feb 25, 2005 (UTC)
 * Great stuff, I'm supposed to have a meeting myself in about an hour, doubt it will be cancelled. Filiocht 10:03, Feb 25, 2005 (UTC)
 * Not too much vandalism so far? I'm off now, back on Monday. Filiocht 14:59, Feb 25, 2005 (UTC)

Aye! good job. I'll be looking out later. --Wetman 19:09, 25 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Go stalk somebody
Oh, did you see this edit summary, that I'm rather proud of for comprehensiveness? That should bloody well cover all angles. Dull, is it? Don't you have any stalking and persecuting to do today? I'm really very busy, though you mightn't think it, I must must must fill in a very complicated form to some insurance company—has to be in the mail early tomorrow morning and we're having a blizzard, so should be mailed today. Just easing into it by a little editing and a lot of coffee. Must Not Hang On IRC All Day. Bishonen | Talk 11:34, 26 Feb 2005 (UTC)
 * Ah, I see you already did. Bishonen | Talk 11:38, 26 Feb 2005 (UTC)
 * Good idea, it probably beats seeing just how boring an article I can write about a really funny play—that NPOV is killing The Country Wife. :-( But never mind, I'm going to stop editing altogether for a couple of hours... not now... not now... but NOW. Bishonen | Talk 11:53, 26 Feb 2005 (UTC)

re: Debacle
I too felt bad for him and so I had to write a small message. I hope that he will stay at WP and will not be intimidated by people like Wincoote. Inter\Echo 20:23, 26 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Picture of the (John) Day
Hi, Giano. Thanks for the support on John Day. I'm still a tiny bit concerned about the picture--if you get a chance, would you mind going to the article and clinking on the picture (which should take you to the original, un-thumb-ified version). Do you see the original or not? PRiis 03:30, 2 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Thanks again for re-doing and uploading the new John Day picture. I've marked the old one for speedy deletion. PRiis 17:43, 3 Feb 2005 (UTC)

"Read only" imminent
OK. No, I haven't done anything, I've been out. I'm leaving it to PRiis to take stock of, when he looks in. Wikipedia will go "Read only" in ten minutes or so, according to Jamesday (developer), and stay like that for 20 minutes (yeah, that'll be the best-case scenario, I guess). So, now is not a good time to start any big-ass editing. Piping hot IRC info just for you, Drac. Bishonen | Talk 15:06, 2 Feb 2005 (UTC)
 * C'est magnifique! All it took to turn you into an image specialist was a crack about fine wining and dining. I pat myself on the back.--Bishonen | Talk 20:30, 2 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Hi again
Response for you, Giano at User talk:Quill Quill 22:12, 3 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Fun
Please do not get me wrong. Serious research is my idea of fun; the more obscure the topic, the more fun it is. I bet you had fun with those nice English bobbies, didn't you? Filiocht 12:41, Feb 11, 2005 (UTC)


 * Did you get to film them at their truncheons? Filiocht 13:19, Feb 11, 2005 (UTC)


 * How wonderful. Filiocht 13:36, Feb 11, 2005 (UTC)

Bucks image library
Great new images for Crafton and Wing (you knew it wouldn't have taken me long to notice...). Did you know that there is now an image library for Buckinghamshire images? It's at this long address which you may want to bookmark. I've added those that you've uploaded today, it would be great to get all Bucks images on there for future reference. -- Francs2000 | Talk 17:14, 11 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Great Billington
You and your villages...! What a fantastically cool parish church. :-) As for my page, I keep archiving it, I archive it practically daily, can I help it if I'm so madly popular that it just keeps filling up? You are so lucky not to have that problem. Bishonen | Talk 20:58, 15 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Bath
This article is slowly getting better and better - the main withstanding critique is the lack of information on architecture, for which the city is famous. Bishonen suggested at Peer Review that I "rope you in", as an architecture buff, to do some work on it - if you get any time this would be greatly appreciated. --Oldak Quill 12:51, 17 Feb 2005 (UTC)
 * (Evil cackle. Bishonen | Talk 13:06, 17 Feb 2005 (UTC))
 * Who did? Typing in class again, I won't see your reply for a while, and I don't get the bish e-mail here at all. Bishonen | Talk 13:12, 17 Feb 2005 (UTC)
 * Thought that was what you meant, I was watching, too. Bishonen | Talk 13:17, 17 Feb 2005 (UTC)
 * Incidentally, isn't a special Privy Council a very nice thing to have? Bishonen | Talk 15:57, 17 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Buckingham Palace
...has all but disappeared!! What have you done? -- ALoan (Talk) 20:01, 17 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Funny you should mention it
I'd just sent an e-mail to one of parties, with whom I'm slightly and pleasantly acquainted, 10 seconds before receiving your message. Not about anything much really, just to ask if "where" meant anything in particular. No, nothing will have to be done, nothing can usefully be done, what are you talking about, you deranged deleter of Royal palaces? Bishonen | Talk 16:00, 18 Feb 2005 (UTC)
 * I understand, I too am being rewarded with a wiki orgy (partly spent in the IRC snakepit :-)) after a nose to the grindstone week. Adding a little content to a secret page with more Restoration porn on it. But in a short while I'll be going out to a restaurant meal with friends, you'll have to guard the madhousepedia all by yourself for a few hours. Bishonen | Talk 16:15, 18 Feb 2005 (UTC)
 * Oh, I'm sure you've got Liz Two in bed with you, you get no sympathy from me. Hey, I'm just writing here about the humiliation and trauma of the Royalists under Oliver Cromwell, it's very soothing. :-) Bishonen | Talk 16:25, 18 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Liliput Liz
I can't stand it, it's driving me mad! Mad, I tell you! Lifesize Liz staring at me all the time from my Talk page! Her eyes following me wherever I go! I have to do something... something.... arrrrhhh... done! It's done, it's over! And I'm glad! Glad, do you hear me? As long as she remains the "The", you're satisfied, I hope! Bishonen | Talk 16:18, 19 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Scraping the bottom of the barrel
They must be all out of minor royalty and scientology. Bishonen | Talk 04:22, 20 Feb 2005 (UTC)
 * Yeah, I'm just now combing his wig and cleaning his nails to be ready for having a bucket of slops upended over him. Well, you wanted to see him there didn't you? Me too. I suppose it's a satisfaction, even though too late to be a pleasure. Bishonen | Talk 09:27, 20 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Avanti popolo!
Cool stuff, but what's it for? Bandiera rossa
 * Oh, I see. I've just checked my e-mail, thirty seconds after posting the above. Bishonen | Talk 18:44, 20 Feb 2005 (UTC)
 * Oh your maternal reply? Nemas problemas, here it is. Didn't I already explain what happened to the History in words of one syllable? Never mind, I'll do it again, watch your e-mail. Bishonen | Talk 21:19, 20 Feb 2005 (UTC)

The Cantos
Thanks for your typically understated remarks on Peer review. Filiocht 09:09, Feb 23, 2005 (UTC)
 * The Mediterranean love of understatement is a clear parallel of our own Celtic one, as I learned when I lived in Barcelona a couple of decades ago. Nice to see that John Van is going to make the Main page soon, by the way. Filiocht 09:39, Feb 23, 2005 (UTC)

John Vanbrugh
Congratulations on Main page today. Filiocht 08:27, Feb 25, 2005 (UTC)
 * I'll try to keep an eye on it over the next few hours. Filiocht 09:23, Feb 25, 2005 (UTC)
 * Most of what you reverted was crud, just lost a small edit begun => began. I'll leave it to save my last two reverts for more vandalism. Filiocht 09:30, Feb 25, 2005 (UTC)
 * Great stuff, I'm supposed to have a meeting myself in about an hour, doubt it will be cancelled. Filiocht 10:03, Feb 25, 2005 (UTC)
 * Not too much vandalism so far? I'm off now, back on Monday. Filiocht 14:59, Feb 25, 2005 (UTC)

Aye! good job. I'll be looking out later. --Wetman 19:09, 25 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Go stalk somebody
Oh, did you see this edit summary, that I'm rather proud of for comprehensiveness? That should bloody well cover all angles. Dull, is it? Don't you have any stalking and persecuting to do today? I'm really very busy, though you mightn't think it, I must must must fill in a very complicated form to some insurance company—has to be in the mail early tomorrow morning and we're having a blizzard, so should be mailed today. Just easing into it by a little editing and a lot of coffee. Must Not Hang On IRC All Day. Bishonen | Talk 11:34, 26 Feb 2005 (UTC)
 * Ah, I see you already did. Bishonen | Talk 11:38, 26 Feb 2005 (UTC)
 * Good idea, it probably beats seeing just how boring an article I can write about a really funny play—that NPOV is killing The Country Wife. :-( But never mind, I'm going to stop editing altogether for a couple of hours... not now... not now... but NOW. Bishonen | Talk 11:53, 26 Feb 2005 (UTC)

re: Debacle
I too felt bad for him and so I had to write a small message. I hope that he will stay at WP and will not be intimidated by people like Wincoote. Inter\Echo 20:23, 26 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Time zones
Same time zone, but I work flexi-time; 4 longish days and a short Friday is what I favour. It means I miss the Friday traffic on my 17-mile drive home. Filiocht 08:30, Feb 28, 2005 (UTC)
 * I see you're displaying your Latin love of understatement on WP:FAC now. Filiocht 13:52, Feb 28, 2005 (UTC)
 * Clearly, Italian Catholicism is very different to the Irish variety. All our sins are of the physical nature. Sorry, no room in my garret for indigent bankers. Filiocht 14:09, Feb 28, 2005 (UTC)

Cats
You had done most of the creation, all you need to do is click the red link and edit the category (I added it to Category:Irish culture, which is edit enough, though you can add text, if you like). Note how adding the colon before the word 'Category' in the link means that this page is not added to the cat. I'd say add Cassels and Gandon, they are always claimed as key figures in the history of Irish architecture. I'd also add Michael Scott wrong guy! Filiocht 09:24, Mar 1, 2005 (UTC)
 * You're fast becoming an honorary Irish wikipedian. Filiocht 10:42, Mar 1, 2005 (UTC)
 * There are now 7 articles in this category. Filiocht 14:33, Mar 3, 2005 (UTC)

What's his name
I've only done the very first bit! A paragraph or two. Got distracted by IRC, and got depressed too by the horribleness of the guy's new career on the other side of the earth starting with the church coming down, talk about unfortunate. :-( I need to eat right now, back in half an hour or so for the rest. Bishonen | Talk 17:53, 1 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Pcpcpcpcpc
Ooooh, Philip is refusing to talk to you! It must be because you are teh 3vil! seriously though, I believe we can mostly ignore that guy until he learns how to counter an argument with logic rather than hostility. I hope he doesn't bother you too much? Radiant! 19:44, Mar 1, 2005 (UTC)
 * Okay, I'm going to stop trying to argue with Pc on his talk page, it's pretty pointless. However, if he starts shouting on VfD again like in that golf records thread, I'm going to seriously consider calling in the Meds. Radiant! 16:55, Mar 3, 2005 (UTC)

Can I say that I hope you will not escalate your differences with him? Charles Matthews 10:44, 4 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Venice wikimeet
What, and let you see I have two heads? No fear. And I can hear you give a talk about yourself most days, it's not that big of a draw. Radiant!, incidentally, Giano may be a bad man, but he's not teh 3vil; I am. Don't even think of mentioning my name around X. Bishonen | Talk 20:39, 1 Mar 2005 (UTC)

April 1
Check out http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Today%27s_featured_article/April_1%2C_2005 before Raul removes it and protects the template! Bishonen | Talk 23:36, 2 Mar 2005 (UTC)
 * It's no achievement of mine, indeed, never entered my head. User:Jguk, a fan of the toilet paper holder page, simply edited the "template"—the FA almanac that only Raul is supposed to edit—and put it in. Ta bu shi da yu added the image. And Jguk told me about it on IRC yesterday. Raul was there too, and threw up his hands in despair and said he'd protect the almanac template, but he doesn't seem to have gotten round to removing the art objects yet. Maybe he won't bother until he's got an April 1 proposal of his own. Anyway, the conclusion from all this: get the Sicilian mafia to set you up an IRC client, you'll never work again! :-) And also, the user you least want to meet doesn't come there (socialize, him?). Bishonen | Talk 14:58, 3 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Barbed wire
Check it out, Giano. . There's an e-mail for you also. Bishonen | Talk 21:06, 3 Mar 2005 (UTC)
 * Yes, please do. I've asked Wincoote to stop his libelous allegations, and warned him that if he does not, I will call in the mediators. Radiant! 22:23, Mar 3, 2005 (UTC)
 * Well, that was fast :) Pcpcpc has removed the libel, and now simply states he will henceforth ignore all of our posts. I've checked his recent edits and he doesn't seem to talk a lot to other users on talk pages, so I guess we're ok for now. Radiant! 22:31, Mar 3, 2005 (UTC)

Ignore Lists
You know. I like this idea of ignore lists. I think all wikipedia talk pages should have them. And you know who I would put on all those ingnore lists. Xtra 08:08, 4 Mar 2005 (UTC)
 * Just wondering would it be worth while getting a bunch of users to go add their names to the ignore list? Filiocht 12:29, Mar 4, 2005 (UTC)
 * I'll preserve my good name so. Glad you like my new picture. Filiocht 13:32, Mar 4, 2005 (UTC)
 * Oh, I'd be happy to be "ignore"d too, but I wouldn't want to inflame the situation. I can't remember where we crossed paths, but I can remember what it was like. (I'm stalking too, btw.) -- ALoan (Talk) 15:27, 4 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Benjy
I gotta concur with your reviewer on the talk page, Benjy's looking great! And isn't it wonderful not to have to disfigure the page with all the fussy royalty and nobility titles, and then have people nitpick at them, I mean at Them? Bishonen | Talk 09:53, 5 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Risen?
I believe the word is "rocketed" :-). I beg to differ, I think Benjy's ready for the big time, but you need a pic of him. There's always a lot of flak if a biography doesn't have a portrait. Is there anything in a book you could scan or photograph? Bishonen | Talk 13:52, 5 Mar 2005 (UTC)
 * Yes (and yes of course you are), I think I've seen the tiny collage portrait: comes up when you do a Google image search including his middle name, right? Not a lot of use, that. :-( I'm surprised there isn't a proper image on the web. Is there some alternative spelling of the name that might help? Bishonen | Talk 14:12, 5 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Benjy again
Way cool additions! I've done a small fiddle, I'm done, but do you have the days and months for Benjie's birth/decease? There's a standard way of laying that out for bios, take a look at Colley Cibber's dates, I'm pretty sure I imitated some suitable model there. Your second--middle--reference seems to be both 1929 and 1950, what's up with that? Bishonen | Talk 22:00, 6 Mar 2005 (UTC)

The Italian What?
Is this you indulging in overstatement again, or do you really have four legs? The Irish pony
 * Some anon over on my talk page is making rude remarks about women and horses; do you know anything about this? The Spanish person seemed to be saying that only women should be able to decide which women went into women categories, or something like that. And this in the name of ending sexism, I believe. Who says that Americans are the ones who lack a sense of irony? I was very pleased with the comments on the cantos on FAC, I must say. Trying not to get a big head, but I do love flattery. Filiocht 15:38, Mar 7, 2005 (UTC)
 * As I understand it, photos taken pre 1923 are out of copyright. Raul is usually a good person to ask about it. Filiocht 16:32, Mar 7, 2005 (UTC)

Beefcake Benjy
What a handsome pic! He looks fabulous, I think I'm in love. Wow. Museums always say everything is copyright. Half the time they lie. Stalker


 * The old photos are just perfect, and I see the objector is now a supporter. One more for the architects, I hope. Filiocht 16:23, Mar 8, 2005 (UTC)

Vandalism User:DaveTheRed
I just reverted yet another vandalism to Dave's userpage, that you reverted before, and asked an admin on IRC to block the vandal (same IP as you reverted). This is probably a user with multiple IPs, though, and the same who vandalised Dave under another IP early this morning. Oh, and having taken a look at, I'm guessing it's somebody closely related to Kaneda... sigh... too many bastards in this place. Since I've written a blocking threat on 204.112.169.4's talk page, and then followed through and actually gotten them blocked, I am looking forward quite confidently to getting my own page vandalised real soon, with some clever barb. Well, so what, who cares. -Bishonen | Talk 16:47, 8 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Ben Mountfort
Hi Giano, thanks for your suggestion&mdash;pity I don't know anything about Christchurch, and I've only visited it once :p

I've put my name on Featured article candidates/Benjamin Mountfort... and as for your comment about my encouragement, why, I'm honoured :D

DiamondVertex 06:32, 9 Mar 2005 (UTC)


 * So mine was too long and yours is too short. I thought you were the Italian stallion! Filiocht 09:32, Mar 10, 2005 (UTC)

Category incest
(Oy veh, I'm not sure I want to edit this page, what would you guys' mothers say?) Let's have a category edit war by all means, I'd like that, and remember the 3RR,. We might even get that category expert friend of ours to join in. But meanwhile, check out this page, look at the foot of the page: see how that cat is itself a member of Category:New Zealand people? If you put Ben both as member of the child cat, as he properly is, and of the parent cat, you're turning him into, uh, his own uncle. You're not in the Appalachians now! Bishonen | Talk 23:43, 10 Mar 2005 (UTC)

New Zealand photos
Gidday, I saw your note to Grutness. If you want photos taken of subjects in New Zealand, you might also post requests at New Zealand Wikipedians' notice board. I'm happy to help out with any requests in Auckland.-gadfium 22:55, 11 Mar 2005 (UTC)
 * Hmm. So Gadfium's snooping around my pages, huh? :) Coincidentally, a friend of mine used to live in a house that F.W. Petre designed, so I've definitely got a couple of photos of that somewhere. I'll have to have a hunt around to see what else I've got of his buildings, but I can always take a couple more if you like. Give me a few days and I'll see what I can come up with. Oh, and I didn't notice - is there a redirect to that page from F.W.Petre? That's how he's usually referred to in Dunedin, at least. And a good "further reading" reference to add to both that page and any others on Dunedin architects is the book "Buildings of Dunedin" by H. Knight and N. Wales ([ISBN 0868681067]) Grutness|hello? [[Image:Grutness.jpg|25px|]] 23:50, 11 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Creating content
Wow, you're productive today! I don't know how you do it. All I get when I try to add some modest edit or other is "Sorry, we have a problem." :-( Anyway, time to leave off for the night. Bishonen | Talk 23:52, 11 Mar 2005 (UTC)

April 1
Did you see this? April Fool

Cute!
Check out the Italy-related stub template somebody just added, is that cute or what! Thanks for the encouragement about The Country Wife. Bishonen | Talk 23:51, 14 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Four Petre pictures for you!
Hi Giano - I've uploaded four photos of F.W.Petre buildings in Dunedin, NZ. I hope that you can use one or more of them for the article (if I can I'll try to add some text to the article as well). I think the one of St Joseph's is the best of them, but Castlamore (Lovelock Ave) isn't bad either. Grutness|hello? 07:42, 19 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Petre
Hi Giano - I've had a look at the Petre article, done a bit of tidying of grammar and punctuation, and added quite a bit more info. have a lok at it now, see whether it's better. Grutness|hello? 00:26, 20 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Soitanly I know it
Your hunch is wrong. It's from the French, so no weird plural form. You've got somebody else doing the copyediting, I'm crushed! :-( --Bishonen | Talk 19:35, 21 Mar 2005 (UTC)

And furthermore
And furthermore you haven't voted for The Country Wife, you don't love me anymore!! Bishonen | Talk 19:39, 21 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Wasting time?
Yeah, I guess you're right. But there's the (admittedly small) chance of actually getting through to him. He does seem to have improved a bit from the last time, even if he probably won't admit it. But I'm not going to lose sleep over that. Radiant_* 12:31, Mar 23, 2005 (UTC)

E-mail
E-mail. Bishonen | Talk 15:18, 24 Mar 2005 (UTC)


 * Did you read my post on Bish's talk before you deleted it? Filiocht 15:39, Mar 24, 2005 (UTC)
 * Just wanted you both to look here; my edit and after. Filiocht 16:04, Mar 24, 2005 (UTC)
 * Don't worry, one of his favourite pastimes is categorising poetry articles, it seems. He made me mad yesterday, and I still feel that way, and that almost never happens me. If he does it again, I'd support an RfC on him. Filiocht 09:21, Mar 25, 2005 (UTC)
 * By the way, your remark that I am one of the most respected, impartial and uncontroversial editors on the Wikipedia project has me worried. What am I doing wrong? Filiocht 09:25, Mar 25, 2005 (UTC)
 * Much better. Filiocht 09:43, Mar 25, 2005 (UTC)
 * The good old Celtic tiger means I'm in the office pretending to work today. Maybe I'll get out the whip when I get home. Enjoy the holiday and talk to you next week. Filiocht | Talk 11:55, Mar 25, 2005 (UTC)
 * ANd how's the pasta harvest this year? Not a lot grows in London, I suppose. Filiocht | Talk 13:18, Mar 25, 2005 (UTC)

Image copyrights
You have uploaded two images to Wikipedia, Image:File0013.jpg and Image:Mentmore Cottages.gif, but you haven't put the image copyright status or permission to their image description pages. You have to do so. Such images may be copyright infringements, and can be deleted from Wikipedia in the future. So what do you know about them? Who took them? Do you have any special permission, or do you even remember, where you found them? Put the backgrouds you know to the image description page. You can also use image copyright tags.-Hapsiainen 13:48, Mar 25, 2005 (UTC)
 * Thanks for reacting so quickly. I had prepared myself for three months wait, people neglecting image descrition pages are typically also neglecting their talk pages.  -Hapsiainen 14:22, Mar 25, 2005 (UTC)

Begorrah
O, that respected and impartial blarney sounds so lovely, begorrah, especially with coming in the same post as your no-nonsense label for me, "stupid Bishonen"! Bishonen|mi talkpage es su talkpage 22:38, 25 Mar 2005 (UTC)
 * Of course I do, I just wanted to show you my lovely new sig. Hey, check it out, the community seems determined to have some work of mine on the MP for 1 April, if not tph then Old Fraud :-) Bishonen|Mi talkpage es su talkpage 23:40, 25 Mar 2005 (UTC)
 * No need to roll in the aisles!--Bishonen|Mi talkpage es su talkpage 09:30, 26 Mar 2005 (UTC)

I AM AWAY UNTIL THE 5th OF APRIL

Bye bye
Byyyye, Hercules (waving), take lots of pics and come back to write about pyramid architecture! --Bischånen|Tåk 15:04, 27 Mar 2005 (UTC)

These links for the Great April Hoax War of 2005 while you were away, you slacker
Risorgimento! (Start with this one.)

ETPH, the mailing list and JWales --Bishonen|Talk 12:35, 4 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Comedy Gold!
For your overall editing style and constant humour I hereby award you the "Comedy Gold!" award. Congratulations for keeping up the high spirits of Wikipedia! violet/riga (t) 10:20, 4 Apr 2005 (UTC)

You forget yourself
Sir, I think you forget that you are addressing that inappropriately familiar discourse to the great Bishonen, of the famous userspace, with the fabulous subpage in it! After all, who are you? You may now leave our presence, walking backwards and incessantly bowing! (Shucks, you're off again? :- --Bishonen|Talk 21:42, 5 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Nothing to do, is it?
For shame, go read Talk:ETPH already, and add some pithy comments about your third cousins. You think I want you to "refactor" my talk page, i. e. steal my awards and delete the innumerable expressions of incredulity that I haven't been an admin for years? Yeah, right, think again. --Bishonen|Talk 19:49, 6 Apr 2005 (UTC)

The Drake
I see from your message to Bishonen (whom I am stalking) that you are staying in a minor character from Seinfeld. Is he comfortable? --Theo (Talk) 21:12, 6 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Featured article on Intoxication
Nobody doubts that you'd be the perfect author for that undertaking. You might want to start by merging Intoxication and Drunkenness (a much longer article), as requested on the pages. Be warned, though: the merge itself may look easy, but it'll create thousands (I think quite possibly literally) of double and triple redirects, that you'd also be expected to fix. I wonder if a bot could do it. And incidentally, e-mail! Bishonen|Talk 15:43, 11 Apr 2005 (UTC)

OMG it's the tall dark stranger!
Dearest Rudolph Valentino, the moment my weak knees firm up enough to carry me over to Francis Petre, I will do your every bidding, as indeed my horoscope of this morning exhorted me to! Bish|Bosh 11:17, 12 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Francis Petre quoting style
You want the italics for the quotes, Drac? It's standard in some countries—Poland, I think—but unfamiliar and weird to Americans. And, well, to me. See Village pump discussion here, where everybody's against it. OK if I change it to regular double quotes? Bishonen|talk 05:18, 13 Apr 2005 (UTC)


 * What on earth are you on about...? I want to revert you on that deletion, but I'll e-mail first and wait till you respond, just in case. Done, please check your e-mail! --Bishonen|talk 13:22, 13 Apr 2005 (UTC)
 * I have big crocodile tears arolling down onto my sunkissed cheeks Giano | Talk 14:35, 13 Apr 2005 (UTC)
 * FAC already? Oh, you and your big rush. I've only gotten as far as "Cathedrals" (which I got an edit conflict on, yet), I can no more tonight.--Bishonen|talk 20:53, 13 Apr 2005 (UTC)

More on Petre
I've had a look and made a few very minor alterations, particularly to the format - placing of photos, etc, but also a tiny bit of the wording here and there. Nothing major. Have a look and see what you think. Grutness|hello? 04:38, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Hi Giano - you wrote: I had been meaning to ask you why Dunedin expanded so fast and quickly.
 * The gold rush was what did it - Dunedin went from 2000 people in 1860 to 20,000 in 1865. And then the first ever frozen meat exports left from Dunedin's port in the 1870s. By the 1920s the population was up to 75,000.

I'm not a 100% sure about the new picture layout, bit I suppose it looks tidier
 * I just wasn't that happy with the text weaving in and out of it, and pictures breaking through the headings.

''I think the next one should be an architectural appraisal of Dunedin. looking for Petre's stuff has unearthed some other interesting buildings.''
 * There are a lot of them here. I wrote the articles on the Dunedin Railway Station and 'Larnach Castle, two of the city's gems. I don't know whether it's possible to get hold of a copy of the Knight and Wales book where you are, but if you can it's well worth it if you want an overview of the city's buildings.

''I'll never get my toungue around English, I thought it was on an Island now it's in. I think its done to trip the rest of us up!''
 * :) NZ's use of the words for th two islands is a bit unusual. A rough rule of thumb seems to be that if it's small enough to still feel like an island you'd use "on" - if it's big enough to feel like a country then it tends to be "in".

She?
Your family connections never cease to astound. Filiocht | Blarneyman 08:09, Apr 14, 2005 (UTC)
 * And you. Filiocht | Blarneyman 08:46, Apr 14, 2005 (UTC)

Now what?
Now what did I do? But, yes, I surely am. Incidentally, check out this guy on the subject of my inflated self-esteem! :-) Bishonen|talk 09:13, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Pamphilj
Good morning, I reverted your Piazza Navona edits. More info: http://www.romeartlover.it/Vasi66.htm (Doria Pamphilj Gallery). Jcr2 09:46, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Petre picture
Hi Giano - one of my skills is photo retouching... I've had a go at getting rid of the worst of the marks and scratches on the portrait of Francis Petre, and uploaded the result as Image:Frank Petre2.jpg. I haven't added it to the article, but if you think it's better than the one that's there, then please do so! :) Grutness|hello?  11:47, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)
 * Yes it's looking good on FA - and as for "never go to bed", I work late at night (and it's only 12.45 anyway :). As to the Royal Exchange building, it's a pity you didn't ask me when I was taking those other photos (I know someone who works in that building - I'm sure he'd have let me take some interesting internal shots of it, too!) Grutness|hello? [[Image:Grutness.jpg|25px|]] 12:52, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)

That's rich
That's a good question coming from Pcpcpc Man!--Bishonen|talk 16:19, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Toybox, Tobyox
Way ahead of ya, man. I suspected this user of being my dissertation supervisor (wrongly), hence the crafty question about "Gunnar". Yes, I see my services have become redundant! :-( --Bishonen|talk 18:15, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Tootsie frootsie ice cream
Hiya, Chico, you gotta some-a tootsie-frootsie ice cream for me? I just meant that YOU're not the one to talk about ME finding dreadful people to fight with. You're the master of that game.--Bishonen | talk 18:27, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)

A tiny bit more on Petre
Hi Giano - amazingly, today's local newspaper (the Otago Daily Times) had a small article on F. W. Petre, which gave me a little bit more information for the article! The list of buildings he designed is a bit longer, in particular. Grutness|hello? 03:36, 16 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Huh?
Huh? A non-editing stalker? But how can you tell?--Bishonen | talk 22:24, 16 Apr 2005 (UTC)
 * Well, yes. How? Filiocht | Blarneyman 07:29, Apr 18, 2005 (UTC)

Oh, what a beautiful morning! Filiocht | Blarneyman 07:37, Apr 18, 2005 (UTC)
 * I think of Bish more as Kylie Minogue, really. Thought the blond one in Abba in a breeches roll is something to ponder, I'll admit. Filiocht | Blarneyman 08:49, Apr 18, 2005 (UTC)

No, Tanned Adonis has the right idea. And that's a pretty good monikker you've got there. As "Wildly Handsome"'s manager I'm considering switching. Rudolf "Tanned Adonis" Valentino..? A little too much...?--Bishonen | talk 09:06, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Not sure about Bish as a tantrum-throwing supermodel with a drugs problem and several eating disorders. Sounds far too nice. Now, where am I going to find a manager? Filiocht | Not overly ugly 09:13, Apr 18, 2005 (UTC)

BP
Temper! -- ALoan (Talk) 20:44, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)


 * Probably; certainly, it is not one of my favourite buildings, but ugly is a bit harsh and simplistic. -- ALoan (Talk) 23:01, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Francis Petre
Congratulations. Filiocht | Blarneyman 07:29, Apr 20, 2005 (UTC)
 * Is there any serious likelihood of your being banned? Is there anything I don't know? Apart from the millions of obvious things, of course. Filiocht | Blarneyman 07:34, Apr 20, 2005 (UTC)

Van the Man
Yes, so immature, what a childish contrast to the vroom-vroom guy at Automobiles of Italy, I hope he doesn't get himself banned or something. I'm delighted to see what you're doing with Blenheim. Too soon for me to mess up your national heritage punctuation yet, I suppose? Funnily enough I'm giving Van the Man some attention myself too, some molecule-level cruft, see User:Bishonen/Première of Vanbrugh's Relapse. It needs to reuse some material already distributed over other articles, Restoration comedy and similar, so right now I'm mainly fussing over that, trying to reword plagiarisms (of my own texts) into unrecognizability. It's not even a lot about the 1696 première performance as such—nothing is known about that, except it was a big hit and the leading man was drunk—it's about the casting problems before the première. I'll match any Pokemon article point for point on the score of meaningless detail! The cruftiest stuff isn't in yet. It's pointless effort, though. I'll never be able to find portraits of any of the people involved, or any other useful pics, and there's one more big problem with the material (don't know if you can guess what, keep it to yourself if you do). Anyway, frantically busy today, typing from inside a meeting, practically. No more wiki till tonight at the earliest. Bishonen | talk 10:40, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Mary Seacole
Tell me if this is outside your area of interest, but I've had this one on a slow burner for a while. What I actually need to do is get some books (horror) rather than just summarising websites, but I'd be grateful for comments, ideas, etc. (this applies to other readers too, by the way). -- ALoan (Talk) 11:18, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Van the Cat
Heh. A Vanbrugh category, what a noble thought, Giano. Should we do that? Seriously? OK, if you're up for it, post a yes on my page and I'll create Category:John Vanbrugh and parent it to Category:English dramatists and playwrights and Category:English architects. I'll put it into articles John Vanbrugh and The Relapse. (And into my new article later, but not while it's still a userpage, they're not supposed to have cats.) You put it into all existing articles on houses by Vanbrugh, and wherever else you can think of. Then we sit back and wait for it to hit Categories for deletion.--Bishonen | talk 18:13, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
 * Van the Cat now exists, hurry up and attach it to those babies (the houses), I think it's more likely to be put up for deletion while it remains empty! --Bishonen | talk 19:46, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Montacute House
Thanks. I was just going through some old photos. One problem with having so many pictures is that they start overlapping text, but you seem to have avoided that. I fixed some typos.

p.s. I fixed a bug violetriga introduced into your user page :-) . David Brooks 15:41, 23 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Words fail you
Though never for long, eh?--Bishonen | talk 08:57, 25 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Have you seen that World is up for admin, isn't he perfect for the job and then some? About England's greatest house on FAC: thank you, Drac, but it gets a little awkward for me to vote when you talk like that! Never mind, though, there'll be plenty of votes. You have a Following!--Bishonen | talk 21:04, 29 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Petre on front page
Hi Giano - I'll do what I can. BTW, your comments on Wikipedia_talk:Tomorrow%27s_featured_article seemed to be at the wrong place on the page. I've moved them and added a summary of the introduction to the article. Grutness|hello? 04:31, 30 Apr 2005 (UTC)
 * Excellent news about May 6 - I'll let them know at the NZ noticeboard! Grutness|hello? [[Image:Grutness.jpg|25px|]] 01:05, 3 May 2005 (UTC)

Hi again - I've had a chat with my former MSc supervisor (who used to live in Pinner House) and he provided quite a bit of extra information which I've incorporated into the article. Grutness|hello? 01:45, 4 May 2005 (UTC)

Snort
Nominate me? Snort. Vote, if you wish!--Bishonen | talk 21:02, 1 May 2005 (UTC)
 * I may have discourteously ommitted those, true. But I hope you notice how I congratulate you on various other glories twice on the adminship page!--Bishonen | talk 21:33, 1 May 2005 (UTC)
 * Yikes, Drac, very delightful question, but will you knock it off now, please? People were already complaining about private jokes in the voting! (There were some ETPH references.) --Bishonen | talk 21:46, 1 May 2005 (UTC)

Blenheim Palace
Yikes! I just looked at the voting. Phils' comment is great, but what's the matter with everybody else? Phils even tells 'em it's superb, to save them trouble, and it is! Stoopid people! :-( Could it be the slurring over of those important, you know ... furnishings? With the, uh, richly understated flutings? Go put 'em back in! --Bishonen | talk 01:23, 2 May 2005 (UTC)

I was going to comment on WP:FAC until I saw that you had decided not to address any more of Mark1's comments. Since my comment duplicates one of his, it seems redundant to make it there but I am too self-righteous to let it go. The phrase that had attracted my attention is "This is only a fraction of the true story, the truth is", which seems redundant at best. You already allude to the brief and partial (in both senses) nature of the plaque inscription and I find the phrase more appropriate to a magazine feature than an encyclopedia article. I recognise that I am picking a nit off an excellent article. --Theo (Talk) 15:37, 6 May 2005 (UTC)

Buckingham Palace
Oh I see. It would be great to see Buckingham Palace as a featured article too. I'll be sure to add the references on any future edits to the article. I guess I'm more of an "event person" myself as opposed to being able to comment on architecture; however I've been looking at your edits and they seem fab! Keep up the good work, Giano! Thanks Craigy 21:54, May 2, 2005 (UTC)

Your e-mail
Yes, your surmise is correct. You see through me again! Curses! Did you get a load of this commented Object vote, btw? New today. Immature, ha! --Bishonen | talk 20:24, 3 May 2005 (UTC)



Back
I took an extra day: even modernists have holidays. Nice to be back, all the same. Filiocht | Blarneyman 08:06, May 4, 2005 (UTC)
 * Or anything featuring Ashlee Simpson. Filiocht | Blarneyman 08:36, May 5, 2005 (UTC)

Boiserie
Hi, Giacomo. You said on my talk page:
 * Hi, Regarding your edit today at Boiserie do you really think it is an architectural stub, to my way of thinking its more carpentry, interior design or something like that.

I don't know about carpentry, but it could definitely be interior design. With stub sorting, sometimes it's a very imprecise art. =) I should mention that you share a name with one of my favorite composers, Puccini. =) --Jemiller226 05:02, 5 May 2005 (UTC)

Mhm... a little subtext there?
"She frequently tells most people where they are going wrong... certainly does not try to curry favour." LOL, paints a picture, doesn't it? --Bitchonen | talk 13:24, 5 May 2005 (UTC)

Francis Petre
So you're on the Main page again! Well done. Filiocht | Blarneyman 08:15, May 6, 2005 (UTC)
 * I don't imagine Bish will even speak to us mere mortals now. And to think we knew her before she was fully toilet trained! The Wren project would be interesting, it certainly needs a lot of work. Have a good weekend yourself; I'll spend mine wondering if Imagism is ready for FAC. Filiocht | Blarneyman 09:03, May 6, 2005 (UTC)
 * Old DHLs poems can tend to be somewhat, em... sensual by times. So you've read the odd poem; I've been in a building from time to time. So much in common. Filiocht | Blarneyman 09:20, May 6, 2005 (UTC)

Australasia
You might as well leave it - it looks like the people I know don't necessarily use the term in the same way that is the most commonly used! Ah well. And congrats on getting Francis onto the front page :)  Grutness|hello?  00:41, 7 May 2005 (UTC)

What was with the link
''I don't get your message, what's with the link? Giano | talk 16:58, 5 May 2005 (UTC)''
 * Sorry, forgot. Forthat link, you need to scroll down a little, you'll see it's embarrassingly relevant. Bishonen | talk 08:13, 7 May 2005 (UTC)

Palazzo della Cancelleria
I've just done a brief entry I wish you'd look over and improve. --Wetman 07:28, 8 May 2005 (UTC)

Irish poetry
Yes, one of my earliest from the Brilliant prose days. Please add anything you can. Filiocht | Blarneyman 07:29, May 9, 2005 (UTC)


 * Anglo-Saxon version of a 13th century Italian canzone, I thought! Filiocht | Blarneyman 07:40, May 9, 2005 (UTC)


 * You lucky man, 4 hours sleep so early in the day. Filiocht | Blarneyman 07:53, May 9, 2005 (UTC)

Image:300px-Montacute.jpg
Burgundavia (&#9992; take a flight?) 06:18, May 10, 2005 (UTC)
 * The point of PUI is to have the image tagged. So, yes you are correct. I was pointing out to the other user that the tag had been added after I had tagged it as PUI. Do you have a higher resolution picture of the same? It would be great to have something like that. Cheers. Burgundavia (&#9992; take a flight?) 22:14, May 10, 2005 (UTC)
 * If you have a bigger picture, I would upload it to the commons, regardless. We need as many good pictures as we can get our hands on. Burgundavia (&#9992; take a flight?) 22:29, May 10, 2005 (UTC)

Relative absurdity
I now have wine in my keyboard and sprayed across my screen. All the fault of your Signora Monferrato! You seem to have some influence with her. Please ask her to desist from her flirting with me. And dpn't worry about the wine: it's Portugese. --Theo (Talk) 21:57, 10 May 2005 (UTC)

Montacute House edits
I liked them on the left and right also. It was User:Alphax who moved them to the right. Did you see why I glued the first three words of that paragraph together? It avoided the problem where you could squeeze the page and end up with a column containing only the word "The"; three words seemed like the right compromise. Do you feel like reverting the change? [Furthermore, I just found a browser width that has the first two images side by side with a narrow column of text to the left; no improvement. If you want to stack images vertically you have to revert to a div or a table]

Incidentally I saw your version of the picture was threatened with deletion; I guess it's orphaned now. That's my wife standing near the front door, btw. David Brooks 16:14, 11 May 2005 (UTC)

Socks
Wow! But how could you have known (and how did Slim know?)? Only developers can check the IP's. Half the wiki population's probably socks. Well, and you're one to talk, for that matter! --Bishonen | talk 22:26, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
 * Oliver Chettle is my brother. I went to his defence on the David Icke article. Slim Virgin was having difficulty believing that more than one person could be unreasonable enough to diagree with his point of view (although there are also others who do who are nothing to do with us) so he leapt to the conclusion that since we have made edits on similar subjects, and we have not edited at the same time (difficult to do on the same computer), we are the same person. Gillian Tipson 04:29, 14 May 2005 (UTC)

Ascott
Well things are sorting themselves out now and you ought to have known I couldn't stay away for very long. So here I am... -- Francs2000 | Talk 23:18, 13 May 2005 (UTC)

I have gone to work on the Italian wiki for a while, back some day - so long Giano | talk 14:31, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
 * Don't go, we need you. Filiocht | Blarneyman 14:39, May 16, 2005 (UTC)
 * Good. Your conversation and humour, not to mention the top-class articles, are part of what makes this place worthwhile. Filiocht | Blarneyman 15:12, May 16, 2005 (UTC)
 * OH NO :( A long while or a short while? -- ALoan (Talk) 15:20, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
 * From the "shy albatross" on User:Giano, I assume you added the delete to User:Giano/Chamomile_Ciotole-Del-Parco? If so, please confirm and I will delete it for you. -- ALoan (Talk) 22:16, 16 May 2005 (UTC)

Imagism
Thanks for your FAC vote and kind comments. Filiocht | Blarneyman 07:59, May 19, 2005 (UTC)

Perch'i' no spero di tornar giammai
Without you, we are so boring. I turn to Italian poets because I miss you here. Filiocht | Blarneyman 15:36, May 24, 2005 (UTC)
 * So boring, in fact, that we are thinking of featuring lists, for goodness sake. -- ALoan (Talk)
 * Hey, I thought that was really interesting! (I'm sad, aren't I? I am). Filiocht | Blarneyman 07:53, May 25, 2005 (UTC)
 * Yes, you can imagine Mr Helvarg singing The Lumberjack Song. Theo, does he have buttered scones for tea? Filiocht | Blarneyman 08:33, May 25, 2005 (UTC)
 * He may work all day, but I'm sure he doesn't cut down trees - press wild flowers, more like.-- ALoan (Talk) 10:13, 25 May 2005 (UTC)
 * I think he's jolly suspicious, why should anyone want to run about in the freezing cold saving ungrateful fish and looking like Monty Python. And what about this seaweed business, I hope he's not planning taking that off the menu. I'm very partial to that with my Peking style fried chicken and bean sprouts.  I think this article is a spoof, the very name Elkvarg suggests he's one of Bishonen's relations. Theo is probably Bishonen's cunning sockpuppet. - Well that's my theory. Giano | talk 10:48, 25 May 2005 (UTC)
 * The mere thought of Bish in a lumberjack shirt is enough to cast doubt on your theory. I suspect that David Helvarg is in fact The Outlaw Jimbo Wales. Filiocht | Blarneyman 11:14, May 25, 2005 (UTC)
 * ''I wish I'd been a lumberjack,
 * ''Just like my dear mama!
 * --Bishonen | talk 11:30, 25 May 2005 (UTC)
 * You do know this became papa in later versions? Filiocht | Blarneyman 11:32, May 25, 2005 (UTC)
 * Yes but the women from those parts are very strong! Giano | talk 11:43, 25 May 2005 (UTC)
 * What a day to spend away&mdash;I turn my back for just a minute and you identify a glaring hole in the David Helvarg bio: his diet! Of course he doesn't eat buttered scones; nobody eats anything with butter in Antarctica. Have you ever tried spreading butter straight from the fridge. Now imagine trying that with butter straight from the freezer. I know that condensing your sentences down to under 4756 words is a challenge, Fil, but you should at least try thinking things through before typing. I| did not know about the gender change of Bish's mother. No wonder Bish has been quiet lately (I thought she was simply preoccupied with sequencing her awards). Oh, and Giano: thanks for suggesting that I might be cunning ... such praise! --Theo (Talk) 23:09, 25 May 2005 (UTC)
 * Blarneyman, you don't remember mine and Michael Palin's family relationships right, dear papa was a girlie, not a lumberjack. I have today asked for User:El C's hand in marriage, so please cool it with the personal remarks. While El C understandably and courteously declined, he has flatteringly began a classic wiki courtship by edit summaryas in this  quite encouraging response to my original offer:--Bishonen | talk 02:51, 26 May 2005 (UTC)
 * But I had reserved a place for you in my harem, just a soon as there's room for you Giano | talk 06:11, 26 May 2005 (UTC)
 * I thought that we tactitly agreed not to mention the room taken up by Bishonen given her eating problem. --Theo (Talk) 09:51, 26 May 2005 (UTC)
 * I was refering to a vacency arising!Giano | talk 09:55, 26 May 2005 (UTC)
 * So when is Nicole Kidman leaving? Filiocht | Blarneyman 09:57, May 26, 2005 (UTC)
 * since discovering Nickie she does not behave like a true Stepford wife I have decided to dispense with her services, and replace her with a more compliant less emancipated and oppinionated person - enter Bishonen! Giano | talk 10:14, 26 May 2005 (UTC)

Giano, you old warrior of love. in the words of your great countryman (who also provided the heading for this section):


 * In quella parte - dove sta memora
 * prende suo stato, - sì formato, - come
 * diaffan da lume, - d'una scuritate
 * la qual da Marte - vène, e fa demora;
 * elli è creato - (ed ha, sensato, - nome),
 * d'alma costume - e di cor volontate.

Filiocht | Blarneyman 10:56, May 26, 2005 (UTC)


 * Ah!..........dear Cavalcanti, "dolce stil nuovo" how I softly weep at the romance of it all, at last my page is becoming a place for the culture, the arts and graceful feelings and sentiments - how happy will be the fair Bishonen when she comes to live here.

Here is small but rather beautiful "Ballatetta" I have composed in her beauteous honour


 * No one could ever tell the charm she hath
 * For toward her all the noble Powers incline,
 * She being beauty's godhead manifest.
 * Cos' she looked quite different to all the rest. Giano | talk 12:02, 26 May 2005 (UTC)

Risposta di Filiocht a Giano


 * This diference is the seat of all her charm,
 * Not accident but virtu.
 * And thought I have no wish you to alarm
 * When Bish reads this, she'll hurt you.

Filiocht | Blarneyman 13:08, May 27, 2005 (UTC)

Bar
I've have just notice that, whereas we English wikipedians have the somewhat quotidian Village pump, the Italian Wikipedia has a bar! Bellissimo! -- ALoan (Talk) 14:21, 27 May 2005 (UTC)
 * Why did you think I spent so long there? Giano | talk 20:32, 27 May 2005 (UTC)

Leaving a message below
What have you done, Mister "at least one user"? Filiocht | Blarneyman 07:43, Jun 1, 2005 (UTC)
 * Sorry to disappoint, but nobody is more famous than Bish. Filiocht | [[User http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:TheoClarke

new messagestalk:Filiocht|Blarneyman]] 08:15, Jun 1, 2005 (UTC)
 * How can you acuse me of being Terry Wogan? Have you ever seen me being funny about the Eurovision song contest? Ha! Italy, nul ponts, I think. Filiocht | Blarneyman 15:06, Jun 1, 2005 (UTC)

Sick-bag
Some bad shrimp, or finally you're amused? Bishonen | talk 07:53, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * Oh, that's why you felt sick, ok. Bishonen | talk 07:59, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * Now, now, use e-mail for abuse. Bishonen | talk 08:04, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Mountford
Hi Giano - two features in two months! I'm impressed! Who's next, Robert Lawson? Grutness...  wha?  12:43, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * I probably have some photos - if not I could take some. Lawson's buildings are very prominent around Dunedin. Grutness...  wha?  23:39, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * I haven't had a chance to look at the article start yet (the real world is being a problem!) but finding "the best one or two" could be difficult - Lawson is a far better known name here for architecture than Petre, and did more important buildings in Dunedin! Larnach Castle, the Municipal Chambers, First Church, Knox Church, Otago Boys' High School... by sheer coincidence, I was in the town of Oamaru (120 km north of here) on Tuesday, and I took some photos, possibly for use on the Oamaru article. One of them shows the Forrester Art Gallery, another fine Lawson building! Grutness...  wha?  07:11, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Well done. Sorry I was away on the day. Filiocht | Blarneyman 07:13, Jun 8, 2005 (UTC)

Your message
Thanks for the kind words, Giano, but I still don't think so. Best regards, Bishonen | talk 15:07, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Thanks for your support
Thank you for voting on my RFA. Have some pie! I was pleasantly surprised by the sheer number of supporters (including several people that usually disagree with my opinion). I shall do my best with the proverbial mop. Yours, Radiant_ &gt;|&lt; 08:13, Jun 8, 2005 (UTC)

krill

 * hallo Giano - thank you - most is own research but i will work on better refs - take care and hallo to fine Italy (I am from Germany originally, now USA Uwe Kils 22:42, Jun 10, 2005 (UTC)

Province of Catania
Wow, drama! Done. Don't quite underestand what happened, but Province of is now a redirect, do you want that deleted? Bishonen | talk 13:44, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * Smoking gun safely in the Hudson River! Bishonen | talk 17:13, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Re Stressed

 * 1) The colours on my user page keep me awake, though I admit the purple is a bit abrasive to the eye
 * 2) I try deep breathing but my after shave smells disgusting
 * 3) I was getting make up tips from the geishas but Davyd said he preferred the bronzed look in a man

-- Francs2000 | Talk 03:10, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * 1) So what have you been up to then?
 * 2) Made any trips to Bucks recently?
 * 3) And how many other users currently want to chop your bits off?

krill
Dear Giano, I addressed the objections that were raised, thank you very much for the advice - it would be nice if you would take another look at Antarctic krill - best greetings Uwe Kils 03:59, Jun 12, 2005 (UTC)
 * Hallo Giano - put links in the text to refs Uwe Kils 20:16, Jun 12, 2005 (UTC)


 * Changed it to "references" as suggested by you - take care Uwe Kils 16:22, Jun 13, 2005 (UTC)
 * thank you - and best greetings across the ocean Uwe Kils 18:17, Jun 13, 2005 (UTC)

Pcpcpc
I don't think I ever told you I e-mailed User:Pcpcpc after he left (well, officially left), offering to watchlist his pages and help him keep them the way he obviously wanted them, i. e. clean? I felt sorry for him, would you believe, for falling foul of Irate. (So I have spoken to him, voluntarily even, since January. Oh, oh, what would my mother say?) He didn't trouble to reply, and I see I'm again honoured with a hiss from him, as are you. Never mind, this is a person who makes no distinction between SlimVirgin (!) and Irate (!). Bishonen | talk 19:04, 13 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Spamspamspamspamspamspamspamspamspamspamspamspamspamspam
Oohh. That's not right. Bishonen | talk 21:58, 13 Jun 2005 (UTC)

R.A.Lawson
Hi Giano - I've had a bit of a play around with the draft lawson article. It still needs a lot of work, of course, but I think I've made a few improvements. A couple of ponts: 1) First Church is always simply called First Church. I think that presbyterians don't have cathedrals, but call their principal churches "first churches". 2) There is a lot on Lawson in the "Buildings of Dunedin" book, some of which should fit quite nicely into the article. 3) If the weather is fine tomorrow I hope to take a few photos! 4) As for a private house, I'd suggest the one Lawson built for Watson Shennan at 367 High Street, Dunedin.

When the article goes up properly, by the way, I'd suggest calling it Robert Lawson (architect) - one of his relations (also Robert Arthur Lawson, but usually known as Robbie Lawson) plays cricket for Otago and could possibly get an article at some stage. It would probably also be worth having a redirect from R. A. Lawson, since that's how the architect is normally known here in NZ.

I also see you've been talking with Donovan - believe it or not, I know him fairly well: we did postgraduate work together here at Otago University, and shared an office for three years! Grutness...  wha?  05:04, 14 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * There seems to be some confusion on the internet as to whether he actually designed Larnach Castle, one site says it was designed "overseas"

According to my books on the subject there is some doubt, but the Buildings of Dunedin book is most likely to accurate (I'd trust Hardwicke Knight's word on most things to do with Dunedin history), and that says "There is some doubt about R A Lawson's part in the design of... Larnach Castle. There is a tradition that larnach designed it after Castle Forbes, his father's place in Australia. The plans, however, are unquestionably from Lawson's office and the contractors... worked under his supervision." Discovering Dunedin tells a slightly different version, saying "Plans for the castle were drawn up overseas, but carried out [by] R.A.Lawson". Oh, and Dunedin does have 120,000 people, so it is a bit of a coincidence that Donovan and I are both working on similar articles on Wikipedia! Grutness...  wha?  08:21, 14 Jun 2005 (UTC)

R.A.Lawson Images
Giano, here are some images of the castle that I found lying around, so I put them on the commons:

If you would like me to edit the exterior further (like tighter cropping or adjusted levels), then just ask. James would have more trouble getting images of the castle, because of the extortionate entrance fee.

Oh, hi James. At least you got out while you were still ahead (or, at least, not as far behind ;). (Donovan|Geocachernemesis|Interact) 11:33, 14 Jun 2005 (UTC)

thank you everybody
I would like to express my thanks to everybody helping in the nomination of Antarctic krill. I think 3 1/2 supports and a long long discussion are an unexpected and great outcome for a critter so remote and unknown - you should see how little and poor Antarctic krill is represented in Encarta and Britannica - this is the best reviewed and resourced general article of krill we know of - it is impossible to fullfill all wishes at the same time - this is what we did with our all product peer review stamp to qualify this stage of the article for academic exercises, especially for our dreams of a Virtual university within Wikiversity - good luck to you all Uwe Kils 21:48, Jun 14, 2005 (UTC)

Guardi la mia pagina
Ora! Bishonen | talk 06:28, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * anteriore! Giano | talk 06:48, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Lawson
I just moved User Giano:Robert Lawson, draft (in article namespace) to User:Giano/Robert Lawson, draft (user namespace) and deleted the resulting redirect. -- User:Docu

RFA
I am sorry that you find my concern for User:Boothy443 distasteful. I may have misunderstood you just as I feel that you have misunderstood me. I have asked him/her if there is an issue with which I can help. I cannot ask privately because s/he does not accept email. I did consider leaving the question unasked because I was one of the affected nominations but I concluded that this would be inappropriate because I would ask such a question were I an independent observer. I hope that this allays your distaste. Ultimately, however, I feel that your discomfort is much milder than Boothy's. I regret yours but I am worried about his/hers.&mdash;Theo (Talk) 23:14, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)

PS: For me, the issue here is not that Boothy opposed any one RFA; that could be for a reason specific to the individual editor and it is anybody's perogative to explain an individual opinion to any extent that they wish. The blanket opposition, however, to me indicates a broader distress/rage/hostility that I would be uncaring to ignore.&mdash;Theo (Talk) 23:20, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Thank you for your extensive explanation. I understand your position. I recognise the possibility that my intervention was inappropriate. I had not seen it as bullying and if even one outsider sees it as such then the odds are good that the subject feels that way. I had hoped that my intervention made it clear that I was trying to allay a hurt rather than solicit information. I can see that I failed.&mdash;Theo (Talk) 07:36, 17 Jun 2005 (UTC)


 * Copied from TheoClarke's talk page:


 * I just wanted to make clear that in no way was I bullying or intimidating Boothy. When I posted my first comment, I was unaware that other people had already asked the same question- I simply did not think that a relatively current issue would be in the archives (stupid me!). However, I have already apologized to Boothy for re-asking this question, and want to make clear that I simply wanted to help Boothy by making him aware of (what we consider) an RfA standard. However, now that I have read his archive page, I completely understand his views. I have always respected everyone's opinions; after all, a plethora of diverse opinions is integral for Wikipedia! Sorry for any misunderstandings I might have caused, and thank you all for your dedication to Wikipedia. I hope this matter is now closed. Flcelloguy [[Image:Bass clef2.gif|25px|Cello today?]] Give me a note! Eighth note (crop).gif Desk  14:34, 17 Jun 2005 (UTC)


 * P.S. I completely understand and respect your views, I just want to reiterate that when I first posted the comment to Boothy, I was 1) trying to help him and 2) unaware that previous Wikipedians had asked him already. Thank you very much for your understanding! Flcelloguy [[Image:Bass clef2.gif|25px|Cello today?]] Give me a note! Eighth note (crop).gif Desk  14:34, 17 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Re: Sorry
''Sorry I deleted you I was heavy handed on the save, and then just did a mass deletion of the duplicate, and did not notice you hade posted immediatly afterwards. Giano | talk 07:31, 17 Jun 2005 (UTC)''
 * Not a problem. Mistakes happen.  Kelly Martin 07:33, Jun 17, 2005 (UTC)

Page problem
No it doesn't appear as if that particular user can read. I lost count of the amount of times I gave him the same basic, simple instruction and the amount of times he completely ignored it... -- Francs2000 | Talk 11:07, 17 Jun 2005 (UTC)


 * Thank you for making me laugh in what has become a very frustrating episode! -- Francs2000 | Talk 11:13, 17 Jun 2005 (UTC)


 * You want to see how many of those I have to see in my job... I'll leave you pondering that while I go to work... -- Francs2000 | Talk  11:19, 17 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Is it full moon or something?
Is there something in the air that's sending people loopy? In just 24 hours I've had four separate users fly off the handle at me over simple instructions that normally wouldn't raise a heckle. Has someone painted a target to my back or something? -- Francs2000 | Talk 14:46, 17 Jun 2005 (UTC)


 * I just checked full moon dates and it's not until the 22nd (give or take a day). That means people are normally this ratty?  What's wrong with the world? -- Francs2000 | Talk  15:10, 17 Jun 2005 (UTC)

response from London
Uwe wants to share this with you (from his talk page):

Hello Kils
Just would like to state that i have very much enjoyed being involved in a project of this nature. To see the speed of co-operation between various people was (Uwe, Lupo and Salleman and all others) fantastic. It was a complete buzz to go off researching about a scientific subject and coming to some understanding and appreciation of a creature that i would have no knowledge or interest in otherwise. I would like to say that it takes a damn good teacher to get others interested in what they teach and i for one, if only in a rudimentary and general way have found the subject of Krill and sorrounding issues of ecology and environment fascinating. I think that says a lot about your willingness to let others participate in something which you obviously have great knowledge in and could easily have been a lot less humble with. At some point i will put up some informtion on my home page so at least people know a little more about me. Am going to try to extend the article on Ice-algae so any info you may have would be good. I hope the article on Antartic Krill gets featured as i think it is now very good.

Wikiversity sounds like a good idea but will need more time to go through the proposal (not too sure what help i could be).

Once again thanks Uwe! Yakuzai 22:50, 20 Jun 2005 (UTC)

that feels good

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Featured_article_candidates/Antarctic_krill

did you see who gave the picture of the day? take care Uwe Kils 23:58, Jun 20, 2005 (UTC)

PC³
In case you come across this character, it looks like a new alias. -- ALoan (Talk) 14:06, 21 Jun 2005 (UTC)


 * He has been quite busy, you know. -- ALoan (Talk) 22:34, 25 Jun 2005 (UTC)