User talk:GiantSnowman/2015

Happy New Year GiantSnowman!


Happy New Year! GiantSnowman, Have a prosperous, productive and enjoyable New Year, and thanks for your contributions to Wikipedia. NorthAmerica1000 13:28, 1 January 2015 (UTC)

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Page Move
Hi GS, hope you had a nice Christmas and a happy New Year. When you are back from your break could you move User:Blethering Scot/School of Rock (musical) to School of Rock (musical) over the redirect i created last year. Thanks. Blethering  Scot  20:14, 1 January 2015 (UTC)
 * thanks very much. Blethering  Scot  22:12, 2 January 2015 (UTC)

Dylan Carreiro
Hello. Ya I just noticed that there is a repeat. I mentioned he made his debut and the sentence after says the same thing too. How do I explain edits? That would be handy. — Preceding unsigned comment added by NASoccerDude (talk • contribs) 19:17, 2 January 2015 (UTC)

George Gibson
Hi GiantSnowman, I am the son of Footballer George Gibson and can provide whatever personal details you require for this site. I'm not sure what reference I can provide besides my knowledge. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Andrew.gibbo (talk • contribs) 13:03, 3 January 2015 (UTC)
 * Happened to notice this when I was here a minute ago. The LondonHearts website here lists his birthdate as 15 Nov 1945, which is the date added by Mr Gibson's son. LondonHearts is WP:RS, though possibly only in context of Hearts stats, but it's at least as likely accurate as OzFootball. cheers, Struway2 (talk) 14:14, 3 January 2015 (UTC)

Robert Murić
Hi! Umm... First off, apologies I guess, since I flat out forgot to put a newspaper reference for at least two out of Robert's 4 clubs before he joined Dinamo's youth team. An article that mentions the first and the last one. I just hate seeing obviously incorrect info being kept due to technicalities, but my bad. Now as for the other two - I have the access to and gathered the info from the official Croatian Football Federation database, where all the players' contracts and all the registrations are clearly listed. How do I go on citing that, the most correct of all sources, since the access is limited to a relatively small amount of people (well, some thousands of football officials & related jobs here)? Screenshots are easy to provide but I doubt that they would be useful. Zlopseto (talk) 13:47, 3 January 2015 (UTC)
 * As far as I'm concerned, even though it's far more strictly closed (as all the official data is stored there), sure! The link's here: https://comet.hns-cff.hr - you won't see much though in terms of description. You can read about it online, though most articles about it are in Croatian I guess. Zlopseto (talk) 14:00, 3 January 2015 (UTC)
 * OK, edited Murić again, with refs. Do check if it's ok. Sorry for the hassle! :) Zlopseto (talk) 20:23, 3 January 2015 (UTC)

Ken Gutteridge
Hello, and compliments of the season to you. I'll have a look later (more concerned at the moment about my lot not contributing another little fairy tale to the magic of the FA Cup), but as he never played first-team for Birmingham, I doubt the books will mention him. One thing though, the Gresley database counts all competitions, not league only; the results and scorers lists show his goals were all scored in the league, but the appearances are all comps. cheers, Struway2 (talk) 13:51, 3 January 2015 (UTC)

User:Royroydeb's creations
Hi GS, how are you?

I'm currently noticing the mentioned guy's creations. No efforts to make a decent page anyway, just creating them to "take the credit". I tried to talk to him several times, got no responses.

Almost every Spanish player this guy creates I improve (i.e. correct the page). This is getting a litle tiresome.

I'm hoping that you can "shed some light" in him.

Thank you, MYS  77  ✉ 21:31, 3 January 2015 (UTC)


 * If you are in need of some examples, here they are: Jonathan Cafú, Alef dos Santos Saldanha and Esteban Becker, all are nothing more than a simple line! Thanks, MYS  77  ✉ 21:35, 3 January 2015 (UTC)


 * And, after a quick research, I found that I'm not the only one complaining about it. If you take a look at his talk page, there's more requests from other users, and I did not found any answers too. Cheers, MYS  77  ✉ 22:10, 3 January 2015 (UTC)
 * Yep, this is starting to really become annoying. I understand creating articles randomly, especially for credit, we've all been there but to let get to this... this is just sad quite frankly. I am considering messaging him on facebook as a last measure (facebook is listed on his page) but this needs to be discussed. --ArsenalFan700 (talk) 00:02, 4 January 2015 (UTC)
 * I have also seen this, but dont know what to do. Just look at Esteban Becker where only source is estebanbecker.com and the content is "Esteban Becker is a former Argentine footballer and a coach.[1]". Can we delete under CSD or PROD or do we have to AfD ever article? Can it be considered disruptive or something and have user blocked? Or perhaps there is a way from blocking editors so they can not create articles? QED237&#160;(talk) 00:48, 4 January 2015 (UTC)
 * I'm not saying that the guy is acting in a bad way, no. But his edits are, indeed, disruptive. It took me a lot of time to fix his creations (some were missing a lot of info in box, others had a really poor storyline, and there it goes). I don't know what's the proper solution of this, but his creations need to improve ASAP. Thank y'all, happy weekend. MYS  77  ✉ 02:18, 4 January 2015 (UTC)
 * Thing is, these days, to put it crudely, he doesn't seem to give a shit. There were incidents in the past where he played games with sources, and perhaps naively I put it down to his youth, suggested he stopped messing about, and then forgot about it. E.g. copying citations from other WP articles regardless of them being live or dead, writing a news item himself on a blog-style site and then citing it, or using someone's storyline in an online FM game as a citation in a BLP...
 * His attitude to sourcing and his complete refusal to fix his own mistakes or even to respond at all is now extremely problematic. See e.g. User talk:Royroydeb, User talk:Royroydeb, and a warning here, to which responses came there none (I fixed the Hassell table myself). And he's still putting a reference at the top of stats tables regardless of whether it covers the content, as at Rafa Jordá, where neither source includes the Chinese Cup figures or any mention of Dinamo Tbilisi, which is supposedly his current club. He's a prolific editor, and not just in football. If the quality of his work is similar in other fields, we do have a problem... cheers, Struway2 (talk) 11:07, 4 January 2015 (UTC)

your input here would be appreciated. GiantSnowman 10:15, 4 January 2015 (UTC)
 * - please see Administrators' noticeboard/Archive268. GiantSnowman 11:18, 4 January 2015 (UTC)


 * In my opinion, the worst ones were Sheyi Ojo and Oluwaseyi Ojo; although you could argue that he is at least marginally notable, those two names are different names for the same player; the articles even use the exact same source. Luke no 94  (tell Luke off here) 11:25, 4 January 2015 (UTC)

Be patient, my dear friend!!! I am not running anywhere. It doesnt mean I will not improve them, which I have already done. You can check the Cafu one, I will now do the others :-) RRD13 (talk) 09:56, 5 January 2015 (UTC)

Template:Veria F.C.
By figures I mean, important first team players, presidents or coaches that had an important-significant impact on the history of the club. I've seen this one on Template:Olympiacos F.C. and I decided to add it to Template:Veria F.C. as well. Is there any problem with that action, that I should be aware of? PanosBonJovi (talk) 20:47, 5 January 2015 (UTC)
 * Their appearances/goals scored, their work in order to improve the club's status/level, their own fame maybe(?). These people ain't considered to be figures for the club by my own judgment, these names came from an encyclopedia that's about Veria F.C. history. Well if this section can't be on the Template:Veria F.C. it's okay for me, but I believe that is a detail that should be included there, still these names exist on the main article Veria F.C. so if you want them removed, thats fine. PanosBonJovi (talk) 21:07, 5 January 2015 (UTC)

Non-league list of seasons
Hello GS, Long story short.. I PROD'ed a lot of non-league List of Foo F.C. season articles today with the rational of Fails GNG, NSEASONS and NOTSTATS, such as List of Corby Town F.C. seasons, and the PROD was removed by Number 57. Just wondering if you think it's worth bring them to AfD or am I wasting my time? I link to the discussion is here Season lists deletion.. Thanks, JMHamo (talk) 23:07, 6 January 2015 (UTC)

Air Lazur
Can you, please, undelete the Air Lazur page? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mashine1984 (talk • contribs) 08:45, 7 January 2015 (UTC)

Multiple accounts
Hello GS, could you please take a look at the history of 2014–15 Sheffield Wednesday F.C. season.. Four User accounts, which I suspect are the same person, could you please block all except the latest Rhys JP. Extra accounts :, ,. Many thanks, JMHamo (talk) 17:35, 7 January 2015 (UTC)

Víctor Valdés
Could you please protect Víctor Valdés.. rumours about him joining Man Utd means the article is getting hammered. Thanks, JMHamo (talk) 19:11, 7 January 2015 (UTC)

Deletion of Firas Awad
Oh, hello GiantSnowman!

Just a doubt here, you seem to have deleted the page Firas Awad, but Talk:Firas Awad isn't deleted... do you know how to fix this, or the procedure to do this? Thanks!

Gno- (talk) 23:49, 7 January 2015 (UTC)
 * I tagged it with a CSD G8 JMHamo (talk) 23:52, 7 January 2015 (UTC)
 * ✅ by another Admin JMHamo (talk) 00:00, 8 January 2015 (UTC)

whoops, sorry, thanks all! GiantSnowman 12:04, 8 January 2015 (UTC)

Libel Issue
Hell GS. Just wanted your opinion on the libel issues surrounding Crippled Black Phoenix. It appears that a number of protagonists have been editing this page, while the case is on-going. I'm wondering if a semi-protect is in order? Thanks. Karst (talk) 09:35, 8 January 2015 (UTC)

Stefan Maierhofer
If I'm in the mood, yes. --Jaellee (talk) 16:07, 9 January 2015 (UTC)

Removing Honours
Hello! Summer is nearby, so the Snowman should go hide in the mountains. Okay, all jokes aside. I've noticed that you have been on a spree of removing honours. (mostly African and Mexican players. Landon Donavan might have been a coverup.) I would like to know why. I'm not accusing you of anything, but I just noticed a pattern. Non African and Mexican players like Wayne Rooney, Robin van Persie, Clint Dempsey, Michael Bradley, Luke Shaw, Miroslav Klose, Robert Lewandowski, Jakub Błaszczykowski, Tim Krul, and etc. are also "unref", but you don't seem to be removing their honours. At first I though you were making good edits, until I noticed the pattern. Once again, I'm not accusing you of anything. I would like to hear back from you. If you have any questions, you can leave me a message on my talk page. This message I'm sending is in good faith.

More "unref" honours
 * Shinji Kagawa
 * Park Chu-young
 * Son Heung-min
 * Ross Barkley
 * André Schürrle
 * Gareth Bale
 * Neymar
 * Keylor Navas

- GoldenBoy25 (talk) 02:36, 11 January 2015 (UTC)

Talk:Catherine Blake (disambiguation)
Since you initiated the discussion regarding Articles for deletion/Jamie Paterson, the above-linked proposal may be of interest. &mdash;Roman Spinner (talk)(contribs) 04:29, 11 January 2015 (UTC)

‎Shawn Oakman
As I said to Yankees, the article showed nothing of importance; most college football players aren't important, and it put forth the idea that he was just another college football player, not showing anything particularly different. I addressed the notability angle because it would be unhelpful to A7-delete a subject that's clearly notable (if I demonstrate notability without addressing something's importance, it shouldn't be deleted), and I addressed it time and time again because Yankees wouldn't or couldn't understand what a primary source is. Nyttend (talk) 13:48, 11 January 2015 (UTC)
 * I love how you continue to act like you are right, despite not one person agreeing with you. You're admin candidacy clearly needs to be reviewed and your deletion history definitely needs to be looked at. Because it seems to me like you are the one not understanding sourcing, not me.--Yankees10 17:51, 11 January 2015 (UTC)
 * guys can we please keep the discussion in one place (User talk:Nyttend or here) and civil? GiantSnowman 17:57, 11 January 2015 (UTC)
 * Let me quote myself. "The article showed nothing of importance; most college football players aren't important, and it put forth the idea that he was just another college football player, not showing anything particularly different".  Nyttend (talk) 18:05, 11 January 2015 (UTC)
 * - responding here to keep it in one place - saying this player was a college player was enough to cover the 'importance' aspect. Can you not understand that? You are again confusing 'importance' and 'notability' as seen in your comment that "most college football players aren't important." GiantSnowman 18:23, 11 January 2015 (UTC)
 * Why do you say that they're all important? Unlike schools, A7 contains no blanket exceptions for people of any sort.  When I was in college, I had a couple of dozen acquaintances who were college football players; were all of them important?  Even if you want to restrict it to Division 1-A schools, you have 128 schools with approximately 100 players each: are all 12,800 of them ineligible for A7?  Only the prominent ones are important, and only the exceptionally prominent ones are notable.  Nyttend (talk) 18:40, 11 January 2015 (UTC)
 * I'm not saying they're all important, I'm saying they make a credible claim of importance, or at least one sufficient enough not to meet A7 criteria. GiantSnowman 18:46, 11 January 2015 (UTC)

DYK nomination of Ratking (group)
Hello! Your submission of Ratking (group) at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and some issues with it may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! Yoninah (talk) 17:01, 11 January 2015 (UTC)

QPQ review
This one looks easy; all the sources are in Serbian, so you should just read it through, touch up any English grammar problems (like missing commas), and see if the hook is cited inline. On your review, note if it's new enough (created within 7 days of nomination), long enough (at least 1500 characters), and if a QPQ was done by the nominator. The only thing I would ask the nominator to do is suggest an alternate hook, since this one is rather repetitive. Good luck, Yoninah (talk) 20:51, 11 January 2015 (UTC)

You've got mail!
Yunshui 雲 水 13:00, 12 January 2015 (UTC

Rednationonline and Charlie Trafford
To answer your question RNO is a reliable source. It is a Canadian soccer magazine and even though it does look a bit like a "fansite" they do good work and employ some good journalists in Canadian soccer. The two articles in question were interviews with the player himself. They do a lot of work covering guys outside of North America. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Vince193 (talk • contribs)

SWP Notable members
I've left an explanation on the Talk page at Talk:Socialist Workers Party (UK). It is wholly unconstructive to remove the entire lists when several of them are not living, and almost all are verifiable in the articles (they are all bluelinked). Why not simply remove the ones that aren't verified (if there are any). They would only need a citation if they were not bluelinked (and I imagine also proof that they were 'notable'). Sionk (talk) 15:15, 12 January 2015 (UTC)

Other QPQ review ideas

 * Template:Did you know nominations/Michigan State Spartans field hockey
 * Template:Did you know nominations/Northwestern Wildcats field hockey
 * Template:Did you know nominations/Sigma Delta Rho
 * Yoninah (talk) 22:34, 12 January 2015 (UTC)

Nomination for deletion of Template:A.R. Kane
Template:A.R. Kane has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the template's entry on the Templates for discussion page. Ten Pound Hammer • (What did I screw up now?) 18:31, 13 January 2015 (UTC)

Phil Alexander
GiantSnowman, as you've deleted large sections of the page on Phil Alexander, most notably relating to American football, would you consider writing these sections yourself as I feel there is much to be written about of high importance? Also there are considerable aspects of his career such as sitting on the board of the football league and more recently the FA council, as well as currently being the longest serving CEO in league football. Many thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.132.117.33 (talk) 08:23, 14 January 2015 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!
(Smile.) Thanks! Yoninah (talk) 21:22, 14 January 2015 (UTC)

Notification
Wiki user Walter Görlitz has removed the unref template from Robin van Persie. Just like you told me to not remove it from Keylor Navas, I think the same should be done with Walter Görlitz. I can't undo his edit because of the 3 revert rule. GoldenBoy25 (talk) 08:02, 15 January 2015 (UTC)

Krystian Bielik
Hello GS, could you please protect Krystian Bielik... getting hit due to Arsenal rumours. Thanks, JMHamo (talk) 17:41, 15 January 2015 (UTC)

Johnny Berry
Hello GiantSnowman, I think this question may well have arisen before but thought you might be the one to ask... just created another new article for CPFC player Peter Berry and whilst doing so came across this webpage re his brother Johnny Berry wherein Johnny's exact name is shown as different to that in his Wiki page. Am not sure how reliable the site may be but seems reasonably sound to me. (:P) I note that the page is also included in Johnny's article, which I haven't altered, basically on the grounds that it may be a sensitive issue. (Or am I being too cautious here?). Any thoughts? Thanks. Regards, Eagleash (talk) 22:29, 17 January 2015 (UTC)

DYK for Ratking (group)
— Crisco 1492 (talk) 04:51, 18 January 2015 (UTC)

Again Serbia v Albania
Hi. We have Discussed once and It's again the same problem with the users, they don't convince that for the abandoned match Serbia v Albania (UEFA Euro 2016 qualifying), the caps do not counted to the players. Look the conversation that i had with a user and please intervene then at Albania national football team and Taulant Xhaka, thank you.Eni.Sukthi.Durres (talk) 21:02, 21 January 2015 (UTC)

213.151.236.112
Hi GS, how are you?

The guy mentioned above is changing Spain for Basque Country, and his edits in Iñaki Williams were full of prejudice.

Can you please, take a look at him?

Thanks, MYS  77  ✉ 16:04, 22 January 2015 (UTC)


 * I'm OK, thanks. And thank you! Happy week, MYS  77  ✉ 16:14, 22 January 2015 (UTC)

help needed please =)
Hello man, I saw you deleted some info due to be unreferenced i tried to insert refer but it didint show up properly...can you please help me with this ??

http://www.fcbarcelona.com/club/the-honours/detail/card/fc-barcelona-individual-records

this is the reference which can be used the same for the three references i have added ..can you just fixed it please ?

thank you

Adnan (talk) 18:20, 23 January 2015 (UTC)


 * Thank you mate Adnan (talk) 18:27, 23 January 2015 (UTC)


 * one more question please mate.. the hat-ricks record i added a refer which states clearly he has the most hatricks for a Spanish team along Zarra under Spain record. which means obviously he is the holder for barca hat-ricks record. so my question is important to add it under barca record mate?because i feel it is not really needed . what do you think ?

Thank you Adnan (talk) 18:44, 23 January 2015 (UTC)


 * Ok thank you again =)

Adnan (talk) 18:48, 23 January 2015 (UTC)


 * Ok thank you mate that would be a better option =)

Adnan (talk) 15:54, 24 January 2015 (UTC)

Kostas Kiassos
Please don't remove referenced data from articles - spells at Panionios, Levediakos and PAS Giannina were referenced. Also stop posting misleading edit summaries - removing four years' worth of referenced stats from an infobox isn't "cleanup", it's vandalism. Cg29692 (talk) 20:24, 23 January 2015 (UTC)

Football records articles :
Hello again mate, I just noticed most information or at least ALOT in football records articles aren't sourced ..and not like in one article in every record article even in some of them has been asked for sources since sometimes now...but it seems as long they are there (same way as it was with messi and ronaldo records) no one really is gonna try and put some sources...so maybe put a time limit ? or just delete unsourced information so people can start adding reliable information to these articles ?? what do you think ?

thank you

Adnan (talk) 23:14, 23 January 2015 (UTC)

George Toone
Good morning I have just spent over an hour researching the career of George Toone with references as you requested yesterday and you still deleted all of my entry. What am I doing wrong ? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Moorehulbert (talk • contribs)

Jon Stead IP edit
Hello GS, could you please review an IPs edits to Jon Stead... here... I don't want to edit war over it.. Thanks, JMHamo (talk) 17:07, 25 January 2015 (UTC)

Brookhattan
Hi GS, should have brought this up earlier, but per WP:3RR, I have been removing what seems to me to be the obvious and repeated addition of incorrect kits to this article. If you check my recent edit history you will see very very similar activity, all of it unreferenced, by what I assume is the same person, though it may not be, on a number of small / old American soccer teams. As it was to me clear vandalism and disruptive editing I thought it was fine to revert repeatedly, this happened quite a few months ago across another large number of small team articles and I thought the editors would go away. I have recently been accused of edit warring over this (I presume, the accuser made no reference to any article and I have  it seen them before). As I said, I should have raised this earlier but am sorry I didn't. I think the page probably needs protecting. I won't revert again to avoid any potential further issues. Fenix down (talk) 19:34, 26 January 2015 (UTC)
 * That's what I was thinking. Thanks for the action. Fenix down (talk) 22:31, 26 January 2015 (UTC)
 * Looks like the I.P. is back at this article using an account now. Fenix down (talk) 07:45, 27 January 2015 (UTC)
 * All those I have reverted recently are here: Category:Suspected Wikipedia sockpuppets of Grandare Grande. Fenix down (talk) 13:30, 27 January 2015 (UTC)

James Bittner
James Bittner has made his football League debut, at the late age of 32, so could you restore his deleted article? Thanks!--EchetusXe 00:41, 27 January 2015 (UTC)

Sharu Naraji
Hi GiantSnowman

I have been trying to edit the page Sharu Naraji as some of the information written is incorrect and the edits that I make are continually reverted back. I have spoken Yun Shui who suggested I contact yourself directly. Please could you kindly edit the section that i required removing. Many thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.25.83.234 (talk) 13:33, 27 January 2015 (UTC)

Apparent block evasion by Grandare Grande
You blocked user:Grandare Grande. I have encountered the editor, logged-in and anonymously in the past. Shortly after the block, user:189.71.115.160 made a similar edit and it looked suspicious so I dug deeper and found your block. I reported at SPI. Not sure if you want to follow-up. Walter Görlitz (talk) 15:28, 27 January 2015 (UTC)

User:77.78.216.194
Hi mate, how are you?

The guy above insists in saying that Kenan Kodro is Bosnian, despite being born in San Sebastián and spending his entire life in Spain. I've already warned him, but he/she does not give up.

Thank you, MYS  77  ✉ 00:42, 28 January 2015 (UTC)


 * Sorry about the tone. It's the third or fourth time I'm reverting this guy. I sent him a message, but no replies by any way. Cheers, MYS  77  ✉ 12:16, 28 January 2015 (UTC)

3RR on Sergio Ramos
Hello GS, could you please take action on for edit warring at Sergio Ramos. Thanks, JMHamo (talk) 16:26, 28 January 2015 (UTC)

CSD question
Hello GS, I was wondering if it's possible for me to get a list of all the articles I previously tagged with CSD G7 in the last month. I turned off my CSD log and can't see deleted contributions. Is this possible? Thanks, JMHamo (talk) 23:14, 28 January 2015 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of ASAP Yams


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If you think this page should not be deleted for this reason, you may contest the nomination by visiting the page and clicking the button labelled "Click here to contest this speedy deletion". This will give you the opportunity to explain why you believe the page should not be deleted. However, be aware that once a page is tagged for speedy deletion, it may be removed without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag from the page yourself, but do not hesitate to add information in line with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. If the page is deleted, and you wish to retrieve the deleted material for future reference or improvement, then please contact the deleting administrator, or if you have already done so, you can place a request here. &#9790;Loriendrew&#9789;  &#9743;(talk)  02:38, 29 January 2015 (UTC)

Thomas Strakosha creation
Hi. You early have deleted one out three times the article Thomas Strakosha in the 2nd nomination, this for being a footballer which it's not yet an Fully Professional footballer. I was the creator of one time and again I'm still interested to create it, but see there if you try to create the article, it's "blocked" (for being deleted 3 times in a row I think), then what should we do if he make his first professional debut?. Thank you. Eni.Sukthi.Durres (talk) 14:42, 1 February 2015 (UTC)
 * Got it, ok when it happen I'll talk again here. Thank u it's a pleasure to have your support here. Eni.Sukthi.Durres (talk) 18:46, 1 February 2015 (UTC)

Reference Errors on 1 February
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Maldives national team kits
Hi, I am trying to do the Maldives national football team section but the arrangement of the section is mixing up with all the sections below in the page. Can you please help me out to fix this? Thank you. ZZ47 (talk) 06:24, 2 February 2015 (UTC)

Bradford-Chelsea
It's definitely not "extra time", which is two periods of 15 minutes played after the completion of full time to break a tie in a cup competition. It is injury time, which is properly called 'stoppage time', or 'additional time' according to FIFA. This kinda explains it a bit better than I do. Daniel (talk) 12:16, 2 February 2015 (UTC)

Paul Pogba
Hello GS, could you please RevDel some of the recent comments from IP 90.213.163.135 on Paul Pogba.. Thanks, JMHamo (talk) 22:26, 2 February 2015 (UTC)

Depressing
What a depressing state of affairs Wikipedia is with "contributors" like yourself. Good luck on your sinking ship. You won't have any editors left at this rate unless they haven't come to their senses and live sad lives. Hope you're happy with yourself. Stevo1000 (talk) 03:37, 3 February 2015 (UTC)
 * Whatever you left-leaning loon. Stevo1000 (talk) 17:18, 3 February 2015 (UTC)
 * Go on then if it somehow makes you feel big. I'm sorry but the hypocrisy on this place is sickening. I see you want to get the Chelsea Bradford game it's own page. Whenever an editor wants a to create a notable football match article that he/she gets slapped down almost immediately. Stevo1000 (talk) 02:58, 4 February 2015 (UTC)

Barry Ferguson
Hello. Just to let you know I've restored the club playing and managerial stats with refs. Think you must have missed the Soccerbase ref that was present in the playing stats when you removed them, it was below the table rather than the more standard above. I'll format it properly when I feel brave enough :-) cheers, Struway2 (talk) 16:43, 3 February 2015 (UTC)

Sharu Naraji
Hi GS I have tried several times to edit the page Sharu Naraji as I feel this page holds incorrect information unfortunately these edits have not been allowed to stand, although admittedly I haven't gone about it in the correct manner.

You mentioned that the information was referenced however if you check the page that it is referenced to the page no longer exists. It is reference number 1. I would appreciate if you could edit this page.

Many thanks  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.25.83.234 (talk) 17:38, 4 February 2015 (UTC)

User:Tozzi de camargo
Hi GS, how are you? :)

The user above keeps on adding state league apps in box to Brazilian players. All of his edits were the same, and I've warned him three (!) times already, and got no answers.

Thanks, MYS  77  ✉ 03:15, 5 February 2015 (UTC)


 * OK. Thank you, MYS  77  ✉ 11:06, 5 February 2015 (UTC)

BenjaWF
Please take a look at Alan Kardec history page. is ignoring WP:RETAIN and is edit warring. I warned the user twice. Before this, user received multiple warnings (see talk page history). SLBedit (talk) 14:10, 5 February 2015 (UTC)
 * I don't know but I do know the article includes Use American English since November 2012. SLBedit (talk) 15:41, 5 February 2015 (UTC)
 * Maybe. "If an article has evolved using predominantly one format, the whole article should conform to it, unless there are reasons for changing it based on strong national ties to the topic or consensus on the article's talk page." The next rule contradicts the previous rule "The date format chosen by the first major contributor in the early stages of an article should continue to be used, unless there is reason to change it based on strong national ties to the topic or consensus on the article's talk page." SLBedit (talk) 17:01, 5 February 2015 (UTC)
 * Give your input at Talk:Alan Kardec. Thank you. SLBedit (talk) 12:55, 6 February 2015 (UTC)

SERIOUS MATTER
The Colombian harasser (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Xxxx693 this one, after my humble opinion in the Quique Flores article regarding the page name in this here WP, many users concurred with me but he resorted to viciously harass only me) is back (please see this IP http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/191.95.251.219, only changes things regarding Mr. Flores, and is from Colombia so there).

I reverted him in Flores' article (where he again went against WP policy by inserting "Quique Sánchez Flores" as "playername"), but not in his other "contributions". I am being as honest as I can, if he returns to my page with his vomit-inducing antics, I most likely will respond accordingly.

Kind regards --84.90.219.128 (talk) 01:49, 6 February 2015 (UTC)

Neil Price
hello I'm Neil Price and was trying to edit and add to my profile as it is wrong and bits missing? Sorry I'm not very tecci lol — Preceding unsigned comment added by Crusader100 (talk • contribs)

Geoff Truett
Dear Sir, I do not think your edits on Truett were justified. I have provided references from four sources. I can, if you so wish put further references into the article. IT would have been politer to have spoken to me first. As a user of wikipedia for many years with numerous articles I am well aware of the rules. I worked on the information for the best part of two hours incidentally.(talk)

I feel your criticism of what I wrote was misguided. My entry improved considerably the stub. The existed info box did not include a place for death details. Your revisions became petty and whilst I can see that you have improved the references, I would contend that for such a minor entry they didn't need revising. Please ask me first rather than just removing my work. I knew Mr Truett quite well at one time. He wasn't a winger for most of his career but a powerful inside forward. It might have started as one but for Tonbridge he played down the middle. (talk)

Sorry for my attitude. I slept on it and can see why you insisted on more references. It was good discipline for me to hunt further for references. Keep up the good work. It would be nice if you didn't change everything I write unnecessarily. This is meant to be a democratic forum.(talk)

SERIOUS MATTER - Part 2
Has reverted me alright, calling me a crybaby and telling me to piss off from WP (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/191.95.251.133). I did not descend to his level, but reverted him again (I was so nervous I got my summary all wrong, I meant "the name of the article here is QUIQUE FLORES" and said "QUIQUE SÁNCHEZ FLORES" instead). Please help me shed WP light towards this person, please! --84.90.219.128 (talk) 22:02, 6 February 2015 (UTC)


 * I have also backed up my storyline at Juan Carlos Rojo with references. Cheers man! --84.90.219.128 (talk) 03:39, 7 February 2015 (UTC)

Did I do anything in the presentation of this message, Rojo's article or my dealings with the IP? I apologize if so, you know I have the greatest esteem for you as an editor and a wikiperson! --84.90.219.128 (talk) 19:13, 7 February 2015 (UTC)

I meant overall, not just the IP (I hopefully improved Rojo's article, always my intention here mate). Since you express no concerns, I take it you are pleased with my work, which is always important to me (your opinion is always taken into high consideration by me!). One final thought: how 'bout protecting Quique Flores' article for a couple of days, is that feasible? --84.90.219.128 (talk) 19:20, 7 February 2015 (UTC)

WoolSalesman
Hi, you may want to unblock User:WoolSalesman or alternatively reblock with a different edit summary. The original account was blocked solely due to a Username policy violation. Both the block summary and to some extent Username policy allow anyone, and in fact to some extent encourage people with few edits (as does Changing username), to simply register a new account when they are blocked for a username violation, so it wasn't block evasion to register the new account and WoolSalesman has also now linked the old account User:6TrillionLampshades to the new account. Not really the new account to the old account, although it's so few edits it doesn't really matter IMO. Of course if you feel WoolSalesman deserved to be blocked whatever their name, I don't personally care about that, but you may want to clarify the block summary. Unless of course they were evading another block and not simply that of 6TrillionLampshades. Nil Einne (talk) 13:39, 7 February 2015 (UTC)


 * User talk:Nil Einne. OK, I see that you unblocked the account, but your sock puppet warning on User:WoolSalesman still says "6TrillionLampshades".  Do you want to change that to "NOTHERE" or just remove it altogether? -- ToE 19:39, 7 February 2015 (UTC)


 * User talk:Thinking of England. Done.  And all I'm asserting here is that this was a public username change from 6TrillionLampshades to WoolSalesman, so claiming one to be the sock puppet of the other just doesn't make sense.  They may be sock puppets of a different account, but I have nothing to add there.  Cheers! -- ToE 00:42, 8 February 2015 (UTC)

Sheyi Ojo
Hello GS, could you please restore the history on Sheyi Ojo prior to AfD. He made his Championship debut today. Thanks, JMHamo (talk) 17:25, 7 February 2015 (UTC)

Border on wiki tables
Hello. In the table 2015 New Radiant S.C. season I have put the gray border between round 1 and 2 (in row 2) but I could not put it in the row 1, 3 and 4. Because in that table, round 1 and 2 is needed to be separated. Thank you ZZ47 (talk) 04:43, 8 February 2015 (UTC)
 * The problem is now solved. Sorry for bothering you. Thanks. ZZ47 (talk) 05:04, 8 February 2015 (UTC)

Problematic IP editor on a rampage
Thanks you for acting on the IP editor who changed the name of the thread dealing with complaints against him. Despite the actions of User:EdJohnston in putting IP blocks on several Jehovah's Witness-related topics earlier today, he is on a one-man crusade to inject pro-JW POV in a widening range of articles. He makes threats, does not discuss and instantly reverts any attempts to neutralise his behavior. No admin has yet shown any interest in the problem, which is fast getting out of hand. Any help you can lend would be appreciated. BlackCab ( TALK ) 10:30, 8 February 2015 (UTC)


 * Hey now! It's a good thing I looked at your contributions so I noticed you talking about me without letting me know. We've been discussing this at the ANI thread, and all the outside opinions have been in my favor.  When I saw that you and a couple others were reverting my edits and refusing to discuss them constructively, I disengaged and moved to other articles, but you have been following me around, stalking and reverting my edits.  I just want to go our separate ways, but I see that you have a 5+ year history of WP:OWN tactics on certain religious articles, so I suggest a topic ban or break from these articles might be good for you and one or two others.  Every edit I make is in line with sources and neutral POV. 73.11.72.255 (talk) 10:35, 8 February 2015 (UTC)
 * Actually one editor (Grahnbarr) sided with you initially but has gone quiet. I have no wish to continue the debate here. I have a large number of JW articles on my watchlist. I am not stalking you. BlackCab  ( TALK ) 10:37, 8 February 2015 (UTC)

Reverting edits
Hi GS, User:Sumitchamoli007 has edited the 2001 POMIS Cup to an Indian Singer biography. See it for yourself here →2001 POMIS Cup: Revision history. Can you please revert it to the version of  08:25, 24 January 2015‎  edited by User:Legacypac ? Thanks ZZ47 (talk) 04:53, 9 February 2015 (UTC)

SveinFalk
Hi GS, today I Prodded a reasonably large number of player / season articles relating to Udon Thani F.C. which, since they play in the regional third tier of Thai football I thought were essentially wholly unnotable per WP:NSEASONS and WP:NFOOTY. Unfortunately all these articles were created by the same user who has begun leaving mildly threatening (well more irritating than threatening) messages on my talk page, has also started the obvious vandalism of a number of Bhutanese football club articles that I have worked on which can easily be seen from his talk page and has now threatened to start messing with other articles if I don't remove the Prod. I wonder whether a word from an admin might have a bit more impact? Fenix down (talk) 17:20, 6 February 2015 (UTC)
 * Thanks, hopefully that will be an end of it. Fenix down (talk) 17:46, 6 February 2015 (UTC)
 * Unfortunately, it doesn't seem to be. SveinFalk's comments at Articles for deletion/Patipan Unop and the continuation of the exchange with Fenix down on their own talk page after your comment show a worrying pattern. I agree with Fenix down's assessment that the comments are more irritating than anything else, but when you consider that they've already received a final warning for harassment in the past, I think block may be in order. Sir Sputnik (talk) 07:27, 9 February 2015 (UTC)
 * unfortunately as I've also commented on the AFD I am WP:INVOLVED and it wouldn't be appropriate for me to block. Perhaps raise at ANI? GiantSnowman 09:24, 9 February 2015 (UTC)
 * I'd like to hold back until the prods relating to his articles are done. He's threatened to start vandalising but hasn't done much and seems to have stopped. I think his behaviour is more out of frustration than anything. He seems to be here to create genuine articles of s reasonable standard it's just he also appears to have created a significant amount of content of non notable subjects. Fenix down (talk) 09:57, 9 February 2015 (UTC)
 * I've taken this issue to ANI, as you suggest. I'd appreciate you're input. Sir Sputnik (talk) 07:13, 11 February 2015 (UTC)

HistoricusBelgium
Hello, i am Historicus of Belgium Football (Peter Mariën-Belgiumsoccerhistory) and i see that in many languages Wikipedia takes my work over but not with my name, i am the only one they dit the research of Belgium Football results and statistic. — Preceding unsigned comment added by HistoricusBelgium (talk • contribs) 18:57, 9 February 2015 (UTC)

Take me as friend on facebook Peter Joseph Mariën (simple and better to ask questions, yes there are books, Memories (can find www.heartbooks.com) and also site before (Belgiumsoccerhistory) http://users.skynet.be/fb304341/ and this year comes also Encyclopedy from first division (1895-2009) with close 10.000 players and all the information that i found and also results, carreer .... and later second division also. — Preceding unsigned comment added by HistoricusBelgium (talk • contribs)

Look to the Dutch version of players from England they play in Belgium (Like the two Bunyan), i put just the results from every season from them. :-) — Preceding unsigned comment added by HistoricusBelgium (talk • contribs) 19:27, 9 February 2015 (UTC)

Hello, can someone exchange the topscorerslist in Belgium, because in 1958 is only Vliers topscorer with 25, Van Gool have 24. https://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lijst_van_topscorers_Belgische_Eerste_Klasse i was also the men they find out that Coppens was not three but two times topscorer because Mannaerts have 25. THIS IS the reason: 22) 17.02	Standard CL – RC Mechelen	0-5 ff	(2-4) (Mannaerts (1-1,1-2) 2, Reyniers (1-3), Diddens (2-4 pen). The game is later 0-5 forfait, but is also win game, so the goals are acccept! — Preceding unsigned comment added by HistoricusBelgium (talk • contribs) 20:43, 10 February 2015 (UTC)

Vliers is correct, Van Gool have 24, i dit the research, the link that you give take the information from the seventies....from a journalist. If someone want to put the topscorers in second division (nobody have this) with bron Peter Mariën, let me know, from 1919 to now, then i put it here, have no time to make a table like that. — Preceding unsigned comment added by HistoricusBelgium (talk • contribs) 20:52, 10 February 2015 (UTC)

Frederick Wall
Hi. I have reverted your revert regarding his playing football for Royal Engineers. Can you cite a source that says that he even served with the REs? I have researched him on Ancestry and have found his date of birth (14 Apr 1858 in Battersea) and death (25 Mar 1944 in Surrey). I have also found his marriage details when he married Marie Louise White on 2 Sept 1880 when he is described as a "solicitor's clerk" aged 22. When his knighthood was gazetted, he was simply "Esquire" - if he had served as an officer in the REs, his military rank would be given. Do you have a copy of his book? He is certainly an interesting subject but I don't have the time to research him any further. Best wishes  Bikeroo (talk) 07:25, 10 February 2015 (UTC)

unref
hi thanks for removing loads of unfeferenced stuff, now loads of players dont have career stats at all so youre really making it worse please stop — Preceding unsigned comment added by Forestmanred (talk • contribs) 16:28, 10 February 2015 (UTC)

Hello
Hello, can you please check what is going on Nemanja Matić article..I am removing unsourced information which is even actually wrong about his cup appearances but someone insists about getting them back. i made a request about it at WikiProject Football

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Football#Nemanja_Mati.C4.87_Statistics_section_:

thank you

Adnan (talk) 16:33, 10 February 2015 (UTC)


 * Adnan stop edit war and listen, the league appearances is sourced. Read my comment at WT:FOOTY and you can use infobox and say it already exist on article, infobox is SUMMARY of article, if you remove in stats section then there is no source for the infobox. Also as I said, you want the content to be changed so stop edit war and listen. QED237&#160;<b style="color:green">(talk)</b></i> 16:42, 10 February 2015 (UTC)

ThreeTrillionLampshades aka WoolSalesman
Socks of banned racist User:Mikemikev. I've blocked WoolSalesman - who I'm guessing was pulling the wool over our heads. Cutesy guy. Dougweller (talk) 17:01, 10 February 2015 (UTC)

User:Tozzi de camargo - part 2
Hi GS, how are you?

Already told you about this guy, but he continues with the disruptive editing. He stops editing for a few days (after someone reverts him) and then returns just to make the same unconstructive edits.

Thanks, MYS  77  ✉ 12:23, 11 February 2015 (UTC)


 * Thank you! Happy week, MYS  77  ✉ 13:39, 11 February 2015 (UTC)

It looks like someone got the documentation wrong
... on Template:Infobox football biography, referring to "tandard formatting for these infoboxes".

Take a look at the documentation at the underlying Template:Infobox, which shows – in my opinion – the correct way of coding infoboxes (+ navboxes, sidebars, and similar templates). There are good reasons for having a blank before and after the pipe:


 * a blank after the pipe prevents it being confused with lower-case "L", upper-case "I" and similar characters, or being read as such.
 * a blank before the pipe makes the underlying structure of the code very clear. It is immediately obvious where each template begins and ends. Moreover, for people with poor eyesight, it can be hard to distinguish the pipe jammed right up against the edge of the edit box.

Plus it just looks so much cleaner! And remember, we do need to consider the needs of editors whose eyesight is less than perfect.

In my opinion, it would also be good also to have a blank line between each block of parameters with the same numeric suffix. It is very easy to get the suffixes wrong, so that might help avoid a few more errors.

Regards, --NSH002 (talk) 15:59, 12 February 2015 (UTC)


 * (response moved from NSH001)
 * But in Template:Infobox/doc there aren't any spaces between the pipe and the text. If there's no actual impact on content/formatting (your comments relating to poor eyesight / it looking cleaner are mere editing constraints) then why change it? Like I said this type of formatting is present on tens of thousands of articles and, as I edit thousands myself a month (and have done for a helluva long time!), I can assure you I have never seen any issues with editors getting confused about the | etc., other than one-off IPs who wouldn't have been able to adequately code even if there was a space! GiantSnowman 16:08, 12 February 2015 (UTC)


 * No, look again, there are plenty of examples (in fact most of them) with the correct formatting, starting with the examples right at the top of the page. It's basically good coding practice. I'm a firm believer in making code easy to visually parse, since it helps avoid errors, improves understanding of the underlying structure and speeds up editing. The very fact that an error arose on Jean-Louis Heinrich, which you didn't immediately spot, illustrates the point quite well. I spend a lot of my NSH002 time cleaning up errors, and I am sure that a lot of them arise because typical wikicode is so difficult to visually parse. "Why change it?" - well I won't revert if it's a case of code formatting only (wastes too much time dealing with trivialities), but I will tidy it up if there's an error or something else that needs fixing.


 * Regards, --NSH002 (talk) 16:57, 12 February 2015 (UTC)
 * Yeah, that 'error' was mine from 2012 - it was a typo and nothing to do with the formatting... GiantSnowman 18:44, 12 February 2015 (UTC)

Peter Armit
Hello, just placed a citation on the Peter Armit edit. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Shrc91 (talk • contribs) 17:19, 12 February 2015 (UTC)

Rafinha page
Hello..

someone is keep changing Rafinha's birthday from March to February even it is states clearly on Barca official website it is on March...can you protect the page please ?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rafinha_(footballer,_born_1993)

barca website :

http://www.fcbarcelona.com/football/first-team/staff/players/rafinha_alcantara

thank you =)

Adnan (talk) 15:57, 13 February 2015 (UTC)


 * thank you ... and it seems barca website is wrong since he celebrated his birthday over his instagram i guess..

http://instagram.com/rafinhaaa93

another question please .. .because it is getting frustrated for me i just added goals conceded for https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marc-Andr%C3%A9_ter_Stegen on international level only!! which is clear easy straight fact and someone says now no consensus and he reverted it !!! it just getting boring for me people just revert alot of changes!! i don't think wikipedia should be based on opinion even on the way data is entered ! as long as the data is correct i don't see the reason to revert it.

Adnan (talk) 16:19, 13 February 2015 (UTC)


 * Please also take a look at Marc-André ter Stegen where editor has been edit warring, just like previuosly at Nemanja Matić a few days ago. Edit warring notice on his talkpage was removed. <i style="font-family:Sans-serif"><b style="color:blue">QED</b><b style="color:red">237</b>&#160;<b style="color:green">(talk)</b></i> 16:38, 13 February 2015 (UTC)
 * we don't use 'goals conceded' for any goalkeepers, clear consensus at WP:FOOTBALL. As says please don't edit war over this. GiantSnowman 13:45, 14 February 2015 (UTC)

IP:62.244.190.197
Persistent vandalism of CPFC page by this user. 3 edits reverted this PM. Eagleash (talk) 17:44, 13 February 2015 (UTC)

Jerry de Jong - Reply
GS, all well?

I don't know what do you have against me in this approach (like my summary said, first it was Pedro María Herrera), I offer no POV in such sentences, only a very minor summary of their careers. Thus, one can read only the article of (in this case) the son and be "satisfied", without having to click in his actual article.

Don't want, however, to soil our wiki-relation and/or start pointless edit wars. Don't worry, article stays your way I will leave it in peace. Attentively --84.90.219.128 (talk) 21:25, 14 February 2015 (UTC)


 * No follow-up? Hopefully, I did not cross the line in etiquette, t'was not my intention. Apologies if so. --84.90.219.128 (talk) 21:52, 14 February 2015 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of Ragnar Þórhallsson


The article Ragnar Þórhallsson has been proposed for deletion because it appears to have no references. Under Wikipedia policy, this newly created biography of a living person will be deleted unless it has at least one reference to a reliable source that directly supports material in the article.

If you created the article, please don't be offended. Instead, consider improving the article. For help on inserting references, see Referencing for beginners, or ask at the help desk. Once you have provided at least one reliable source, you may remove the prod blp tag. Please do not remove the tag unless the article is sourced. If you cannot provide such a source within seven days, the article may be deleted, but you can when you are ready to add one. Wgolf (talk) 00:31, 18 February 2015 (UTC)


 * -Okay I saw your name when I put up the prod so I had to check-looks like someone edited in info from a redirect page you made so there you go. Not sure where to go from this though...Wgolf (talk) 00:33, 18 February 2015 (UTC)

Gillian Johnston
Hello. I would like to create a page about another Gillian Johnston, the American polo player. Is it OK if I remove your redirect and simply add a hatnote?Zigzig20s (talk) 13:50, 18 February 2015 (UTC)
 * Do we not need three namesakes to create a disambiguation page?Zigzig20s (talk) 14:56, 18 February 2015 (UTC)
 * OK. Would you know how to undo the redirect and create the disambiguation page please? For the article I want to create, we could call it Gillian Johnston (polo player). I'm only asking you because I tried to do a similar thing last time and the talkpage redirect was unchanged. Would you be able to create it faster than me perhaps?Zigzig20s (talk) 15:06, 18 February 2015 (UTC)

Re: February 2015
Hello and nice to meet you. You're right, I did not prove the changes by any link. I just did so because I live in Tunisia and that player played today his second game in the local league, and scored a goal. But Wikipedia's pages rely on links from reliable sources. Thank you for correcting me. I will try to put reliable links on his page later. Alexsd27 (talk) 18:36, 18 February 2015 (UTC)
 * OK, I saw your changes, thanks again ;) Alexsd27 (talk) 18:39, 18 February 2015 (UTC)

Howard Newton - What are you doing?
Hi, for some reason you've undone a correct edit - Wikipedia isn't supposed to have out of date info. Howard Newton now plays for Tooting and Mitcham Utd, I'm a fan of that team and have seen him play. Just because I can't find a source on the internet doesn't mean it's not true. I tell you what, I'll take a pictur of him playing for TMUFC, put it on the internet and use the link - Will that be good enough for you??? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Maarlon (talk • contribs)

Doubt
As I told at WP:FOOTY (dunno if you saw it or not), I'm not doubting your reasoning, just curious mate: how is it possible that Jonas Gutiérrez (or any other player for that matter) is allowed to play for Newcastle's youths at almost 32? Didn't they use to have a reserves championship in England? Is it extinct now?

Kind regards, keep it up --84.90.219.128 (talk) 19:54, 18 February 2015 (UTC)


 * Thanks. --84.90.219.128 (talk) 21:41, 18 February 2015 (UTC)

Ken Todd
Some bizarre person keeps vandalising the article. Can you protect it please? Thanks.--EchetusXe 09:53, 20 February 2015 (UTC)
 * Seems to happen once every few months. Not too much hassle I suppose.--EchetusXe 10:24, 20 February 2015 (UTC)

I got the following message from you [] after correcting his birth date (44 instead of 1944 - it messed up his age calculation) (see []) which showed he was 1,969 years old. How is that vandalism? -- (talk) 10:24, 22 February 2015 (UTC)
 * "Because the correct date of birth is 1957!" Even if the correct date is 1957, which I could not know, I just corrected the date to fix the automatic miscalculation of his age. How is that "vandalism"? Is it necessary to be rude when somebody tries to help?
 * I did not saw you left this in the page, I thought it was an automatic message from Wikipedia. I think Wikipedia is a great website, however I never edited any article in the past. I think it's sad when somebody edits an article that old users feel that they are the only legitimate people allowed to edit pages and other people are "vandalizing" Wikipedia. I just corrected a date, I did not "vandalized"anything. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Gabfl (talk • contribs) 20:05, 22 February 2015 (UTC)
 * Alright then, have a good weekend! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Gabfl (talk • contribs) 20:20, 22 February 2015 (UTC)

Marcel Sabou
My edit was correct it can be verified on foradejogo.net, here is the link: http://www.foradejogo.net/player.php?player=196508220001 which can also be found on the external links of Marcel Sabou wikipedia page. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 213.233.96.15 (talk) 10:50, 21 February 2015 (UTC)

Thanks...
...for this. <b style="color:#000080;">APK</b> whisper in my ear  09:46, 22 February 2015 (UTC)

"WP:Overlink"
Greeting and salutations.

You may think that wikilinking initially England or United States is overlinking, but my perspective is that of being on a lookout to serve all comers, and that includes people who do not know any English, and are perusing the main space trying to figure out the meaning of what they see with the help of wikilinking. I am quite sure (12 year vet of Wikipedia, so something of a graybeard myself) that the policy you used to overturn my amelioration was not meant to apply here. Kind regards, --Mareklug talk 13:38, 22 February 2015 (UTC)

Vote?
What do you want to vote for? I invite you to vote at TAFI. Qwertyxp2000 (talk) 06:43, 26 February 2015 (UTC)

Valencia CF
Hi, there is a minor incident at Valencia CF and I brought the case to WT:FOOTY for dicussion. He adds content with wikipedia as source while removing other sources and UEFA source dont compare teams. Unfortunately the editor has become uncivil and made a comment in his edit summary that may be interpreted as a threat, is it possible for you to remove that part? <i style="font-family:Sans-serif"><b style="color:blue">QED</b><b style="color:red">237</b>&#160;<b style="color:green">(talk)</b></i> 12:39, 27 February 2015 (UTC)
 * I was thinking about last part of this diff. The last sentence can be interpreted as a threat. <i style="font-family:Sans-serif"><b style="color:blue">QED</b><b style="color:red">237</b>&#160;<b style="color:green">(talk)</b></i> 12:46, 27 February 2015 (UTC)

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Reflist parameters
Hello. If it's one of AWB's general fixes to put, someone should tell the developers that the format has been deprecated for a year or so now. Where there are only a few refs, we're supposed to not use columns at all, and where there are enough to warrant putting them in columns, we're recommended to use. See Template:Reflist. cheers, Struway2 (talk) 14:49, 1 March 2015 (UTC)

177.75.149.34
177.75.149.34 is BenjaWF (Sockpuppet_investigations/Gringoladomenega/Archive). SLBedit (talk) 10:50, 2 March 2015 (UTC)

S. MCGRADY
Here: http://int.soccerway.com/players/stuart-mcgrady/45933/ --Noel baran (talk) 20:20, 2 March 2015 (UTC)

Notability of Leo Miranda?
I came across this article earlier today, and was going to put it up for deletion. From what I can tell, the article fails GNG and he's not played in an FPL. Then, I noticed that you had restored the article, so I figured I'd better check with you first. Am I missing something here? Thanks in advance. Sir Sputnik (talk) 23:50, 2 March 2015 (UTC)

NAC revert
Hi, GiantSnowman. If any admin (Martijn, probably) closed the discussion, they'd have listed the templates under 'To orphan' in WP:TFD/HC, where they'd have been probably left to rot. This is extremely common in TFD; templates are often not deleted immediately. In the knowledge that I'm one of the few—if not the only one—who's using AWB to mass-remove and -convert templates, where there's consensus to do so, I: closed the discussion; carried out the orphaning; and listed the templates under 'Ready to delete'. Essentially, I've saved us all some time by skipping a step, which would've been to list the templates under a different heading, and apply Being deleted to each one. I've got to ask, what was the point of reverting my close? Alakzi (talk) 12:14, 5 March 2015 (UTC)

Oliver McBurnie
Oh, sorry about that, my bad. Weegeerunner (talk) 18:56, 5 March 2015 (UTC)

Leo Miranda
Hello. According to WP:FPL, the only state championship we list as fully-pro is the top level of the Paulista. According to Soccerway, Mr Miranda played in the Campeonato Carioca and the Campeonato Gaúcho, neither of which are listed. So according to me, that means no, he hasn't played in an FPL. cheers, Struway2 (talk) 17:31, 6 March 2015 (UTC)

Recreation
Hi GS, just wanted to see with you if you could save a recently deleted article, Đorđe Vukobrat, he passes notability, soccerway. Sorry to bother you. FkpCascais (talk) 15:14, 10 March 2015 (UTC)

Dave Trott
I'm wanting to create a Wikipedia page for the award-winning copywriter, creative director and author (Creative Mischief and Predatory Thinking) Dave Trott, can we remove the redirect please? You placed it for David Trott the politician. (RedJulianG40 (talk) 13:33, 11 March 2015 (UTC))

Stephen Constantine change
Ok I am making the changes as per written in the article. For source please read the article before deleting anything. Thanks!! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 202.142.77.92 (talk) 18:42, 11 March 2015 (UTC)

Then you need to read the article now I will edit whatever is in the article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 202.142.77.92 (talk) 18:55, 11 March 2015 (UTC)

You have deleted those already with a source in the article. Read the article before removing. Thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by 202.142.77.92 (talk) 18:59, 11 March 2015 (UTC)

So he was with Millwall for the 05-06 season and with Ethnikos Achnas for 12-13 season and assistant in Apollon Smrynis Greece for 13-14 season. Please check these and suggest whether to add.202.142.77.92 (talk) 19:06, 11 March 2015 (UTC)

ok please check 2011-12 and next season Cypriot league managers.202.142.77.92 (talk) 19:17, 11 March 2015 (UTC)

Look in their wiki page you will find the dates. 202.142.77.92 (talk) 19:51, 11 March 2015 (UTC)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethnikos_Achna_FC#Managers If this isn't true remove this data202.142.77.92 (talk) 19:58, 11 March 2015 (UTC)

Better leave it as Nea Salamis it looks nice BTW are you from India??202.142.77.92 (talk) 19:59, 11 March 2015 (UTC)

If not don't get involved with the indian manager.There are 100s of unreferenced articles in wiki go clean them. Leave this page alone!!! 202.142.77.92 (talk) 20:09, 11 March 2015 (UTC)


 * Okay, what seems to be the problem here? --ArsenalFan700 (talk) 21:02, 11 March 2015 (UTC)

Unexplained move of your user page
For info: User talk:Forestmanred. --David Biddulph (talk) 15:42, 12 March 2015 (UTC)

Article for Undeletion
Please undelete my previous article David Wilson (Scottish football manager) as he is now manager of the Gibraltar national football team and meets notability guidelines. I have already submitted a request for undeletion. Thanks in advance. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Gri3720 (talk • contribs)

User:201.65.45.196
Hi GS, how are you?

This guy keeps on adding state leagues apps in box, even though I've explained to him the rules. Can you please take a look at this?

Thanks, MYS  77  ✉ 20:47, 14 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Sorry to butt in, but I see no explanation on that user's talk page: perhaps you've explained it to the same user at a different IP address talk, in which case please ignore me. I do see some comments via edit summary, but that isn't how we're supposed to expalin stuff to inexperienced editors making mistakes. Most newcomers don't know what an edit summary is, let alone read them or realise what's written there might apply to their editing. cheers, Struway2 (talk) 13:14, 15 March 2015 (UTC)


 * The question is: in both pages there's already a comment saying that we should only include Brasileirão apps, so the user is disrespecting the guidelines on purpose. Thanks, if he continues to bother I'll do this. Cheers,  MYS  77  ✉ 14:06, 15 March 2015 (UTC)
 * What "both pages"? If you mean your edit summaries, here and as linked above, I repeat: that isn't explanation. Editors, particularly inexperienced anonymous editors, don't necessarily even see page histories and edit summaries. As said above, if you have explained these guidelines on a talk page somewhere and I haven't seen it, then feel free to point it out to me. Otherwise, I think issuing a final warning for what is quite possibly genuine ignorance seems a touch OTT. And apologies to GiantSnowman for taking over his talk page :( cheers, Struway2 (talk) 14:25, 15 March 2015 (UTC)
 * - not a problem, seriously. GiantSnowman 14:28, 15 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Dodô | years1 = 2013– | clubs1 = Atlético Mineiro | caps1 = 10 | goals1 = 4 . To me, this is well-explained. MYS  77  ✉ 14:33, 15 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Thank you for pointing that out. That sort of hidden note can sometimes be helpful in general. But when you're dealing with a specific editor, it takes no time at all to add a brief meaningful message of explanation to an editor's talk page, the first time you come across them editing contrary to custom. Then if they do continue, there'll be little doubt as to whether they're doing it deliberately or not. On another note, you might want to restrict your edit summaries to summarising your own edits. cheers, Struway2 (talk) 15:05, 15 March 2015 (UTC)

James Hanson
Hi Giantsnowman, I wasn't aware that I had changed either the date he started or his squad number (certainly his squad number), I think you might be confusing me with one of the mischievous users. Can you please put back in the subheads I created to make the main bulk of the copy easily navigable... It was quite rude of you to change this and it brings the page in line with other players who have spent several years with one club. Oh and why is the Daily Mail not a reliable source? Best (RedJulianG40 (talk) 10:37, 21 March 2015 (UTC))

MYS77
Hello GianSnowman. For player Thievy Bifouma, he score a goal against Cape Verde in January but it is not a FIFA match. It was listed on Bifouma's goal list and also was part of national team statistics but I try to change it because it is not a FIFA match. It is even on national-football-teams.com. But this person MYS77 say it doesn't matter and continues to include as if the match is FIFA international friendly. He even say that other people don't agree with what I'm doing but has decided to leave it to what I want but also to completely delete the goal from the list. In the revision history, you can see he says that Avoiding any further discussions with an annoying, insistent, stubborn and arrogant user. I did not do anything wrong and now this person say these things. If they disagree it's OK we can discuss but instead this person acts like this. GoalsGalore (talk) 17:52, 20 March 2015 (UTC)

Danny Rose
Hi, thanks for notifying me on the edit to Danny Rose, I added up all the league games from his career history via the shakers' (Bury) official website.

Urwin
Oh, sorry. I think it was strange indeed, but BBC, Soccerway and Soccerbase included him, so I thought it was correct.

Thanks, MYS  77  ✉ 14:39, 21 March 2015 (UTC)


 * Already tagged. Thanks, MYS  77  ✉ 17:23, 22 March 2015 (UTC)


 * GS, can I delete these pages (User:MYS77/Joshua Warren, User:MYS77/Liam Triggs and User:MYS77/George Branford with WP:G7 too? Cheers, MYS  77  ✉ 20:49, 22 March 2015 (UTC)
 * You would add Db-u1 to your own subpages that you want deleted. Thanks! JMHamo (talk) 20:56, 22 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Thanks a lot! I will do it right now. These kiddos were Pompey graduates, but never made it to the first team. Cheers, MYS  77  ✉ 20:58, 22 March 2015 (UTC)

Adnan Januzaj disruption
Hello GS, could you please add Adnan Januzaj to your watch list as is beginning to edit war and is generally being disruptive. I took this subject to WP:FOOTY recently and Struway confirmed what I thought too; that it's "Tabloid trivia and recentism". Thanks, JMHamo (talk) 18:51, 22 March 2015 (UTC)

Aldin El Zubaidi
Stolen article? What do you mean? Sorry Steel DoggGiant 22:48, 24 March 2015 (UTC)

Your PROD of Cat's Eyes
Your prod here is totally inappropriate - see the article's talk page if it isn't clear. Please remember that proposed deletion is there only for uncontroversial deletion candidates. A band comprising two notable musicians with major label album releases is clearly not going to fall into that category. --Michig (talk) 19:11, 27 March 2015 (UTC)

Gerry Sharpe edit
Thanks for your help. I have attempted to add sources - but seem to have deleted another part of the listing. Can you assist - as my attempts to untangle it are making it worse. Thanks. Research9999 (talk) 23:31, 27 March 2015 (UTC)

Strange users
Sorry if I shouldn't be putting this here, it's just that you oversee alot of football pages and I don't know who to contact regarding these "problem" users:

200.216.145.154/189.12.67.70/177.59.99.149 seems to be the same fella, making unsourced edits to the caps of players who have played for Corinthian, seems a bit strange.

User:Infoantg1, who I think might be Antoine Gounet himself, keeps persistently changing the Brentford caps of Antoine Gounet to 1, when all he appeared in for Brentford was 1 FA Cup game. Warned him, no response. Notified him that I had brought him to the attention of Administrators' noticeboard/Edit warring, but those fellas just moved it to the archives.

Sorry if I shouldn't be posting this here! Beatpoet (talk) 22:09, 28 March 2015 (UTC)

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Ahmed Ouattara (footballer)
Hi there GS, (former) AL here,

I was doing (what I perceived as) a minor tidyup to the article's display, and unduly (it seems, since you reverted me subsequently) reinstated my previous version. Out of respect for you and your work, may this message be proof that the current version of this player's article will stand, at least as far as I am concerned (even though I still don't see the problem of having said sources as links, but if I haven't grasped that concept in nine years, I most likely never will).

Kind regards, happy week --84.90.219.128 (talk) 19:17, 29 March 2015 (UTC)


 * Like I told you a couple of years ago if I'm not mistaken, I think refs should be newspaper articles, official club releases, etc, I treat stuff like NFT.com and akin as an external link, for easy consultation of stats and other related data. Of course, what I "think" is not a WP rule, that does not make me a vandal but it is indeed a bit disruptive I admit. --84.90.219.128 (talk) 19:27, 29 March 2015 (UTC)

Adnan Januzaj
is again adding this to Adnan Januzaj, going against consensus after multiple warnings. JMHamo (talk) 21:03, 29 March 2015 (UTC)

Javier Casquero
GS, AL "here",

my latest work in this player has been reverted, even though I ref'd it. Can you please check if my current "effort" (relocated refs from intro - did not know they were forbidden there, news to me! - rephrased from "tremendously powerful shot" to "powerful shot" which is not POV, it's neutral info, "trallazo" is a powerful shot in English, or a "rocket" in football terminology) is wiki-acceptable? If still not, please suggest suggestions (pardon for the redundancy) and I will duly oblige.

Attentively --84.90.219.128 (talk) 18:16, 30 March 2015 (UTC)

Non english contributor
Hi,

Me and an other user has had some issues with a user that not speek english and write with chinese signs on talkpages, keeps modifying talkpage posts and can not communicate at all. The editor has also been blocked once for edit warring and makes really obvious mistakes. What should I do? Just observe and report after every final warning or report somewhere becuase the editor is not capable of editing in english? <i style="font-family:Sans-serif"><b style="color:blue">QED</b><b style="color:red">237</b>&#160;<b style="color:green">(talk)</b></i> 19:42, 30 March 2015 (UTC)

List of Malmö FF managers
Hi, I've added a comment at Talk:List of Malmö FF managers, where the use of sources is questioned. I think a third opinion may could be beneficial. Grrahnbahr (talk) 20:18, 30 March 2015 (UTC)

Adrian Rodrigues
Hi — Preceding unsigned comment added by Hendrix779977 (talk • contribs) 12:24, 31 March 2015 (UTC) Hi, In The page of the footballer Adrian Rodrigues, the information I writing is absolutely correct and valid. Tell me where I can send you information n which shows that the information is correct. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Hendrix779977 (talk • contribs) 12:32, 31 March 2015 (UTC)

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Strange users 2
Sorry if I shouldn't be putting this here, it's just that you oversee alot of football pages and I don't know who to contact regarding these "problem" users:

200.216.145.154/189.12.67.70/177.59.99.149 seems to be the same fella, making unsourced edits to the caps of players who have played for Corinthian, seems a bit strange.

User:Infoantg1, who I think might be Antoine Gounet himself, keeps persistently changing the Brentford caps of Antoine Gounet to 1, when all he appeared in for Brentford was 1 FA Cup game. Warned him, no response. Notified him that I had brought him to the attention of Administrators' noticeboard/Edit warring, but those fellas just moved it to the archives.

Sorry if I shouldn't be posting this here! Beatpoet (talk) 22:09, 28 March 2015 (UTC)


 * The Corinthian editor is back, on Jackie Burns. 187.69.25.254 Beatpoet (talk) 11:26, 1 April 2015 (UTC)

Well this one dab page you made Ryan Metcalf
Might need to be csd, Ryan Metcalf, as the actor is currently on a AFD. So wanted to point that out really quick. Wgolf (talk) 02:07, 2 April 2015 (UTC)

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Page Move
Can you have a look at this page Charlie and the Chocolate Factory: The Musical thats just been moved. I can't revert it because the user botched the original move slightly. It should really either be its original title or Charlie and the Chocolate Factory (musical) but not : The Musical. Blethering  Scot  18:12, 9 April 2015 (UTC)
 * Didn't expect you to comment. Thanks though. Blethering  Scot  18:33, 9 April 2015 (UTC)
 * The original title was Charlie and the Chocolate Factory the Musical‎ actually, however I'm happy where it is or that one up to you whether to move again as not bothered. Blethering  Scot  18:37, 9 April 2015 (UTC)
 * Im generally not fussed with either. Blethering  Scot  18:39, 9 April 2015 (UTC)

Delete?
Hello. Is List of Philippines international footballers born outside the Philippines necessary or even notable page? I'm sure it is not and I would nominate for deletion but not sure under which guideline. Maybe you could help? Thank you. AndaleCaballo (talk) 00:19, 11 April 2015 (UTC)

If hat-tricks page for Philippines should be deleted, what about List of Scotland national football team hat-tricks? AndaleCaballo (talk) 22:36, 12 April 2015 (UTC)

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Sockpuppetry
Hi GS, how are you?

User:Ryan Charlton 100 and User:Baboo-Raz are sock puppets of blocked user Ryan Charlton (the first one is very obvious, only included a "100" in his name). If you check all of their edits, you'll see they're pretty much equal and in the same pages (CA Osasuna, Salisbury City F.C. and other season pages).

It's not the first time that this guy is warned about sock puppetry (he was indefinitely blocked thanks to that!)

Can you please take a look at this?

Thanks, MYS  77  ✉ 02:27, 14 April 2015 (UTC)


 * Thank you! MYS  77  ✉ 13:05, 14 April 2015 (UTC)

Darian MacKinnon
Hello, you reverted the edit I made to the Darian MacKinnon article the other day, where I had removed his amateur level clubs from the infobox. I would concede there is some scope for debate on the subject, so perhaps it was unwise of me to have done so without discussion. My reason for doing so was that the instructions for using the football biography infobox specify that the "clubs1" etc. parameters are for listing professional clubs the player has been with. I interpreted this to mean clubs in national senior leagues, possibly non-league professional (or semi-pro) leagues but not necessarily clubs at this sort of level which are basically 'public park' teams. I can see, however, that it could be taken to mean any adult teams of whatever standing. I think we might need to seek further opinions on this one, so I'll initiate some discussion on the WkiProject Football talk page. Cheers, Jellyman (talk) 18:53, 14 April 2015 (UTC)

Malicious libel
This edit clearly needs to be deleted from the records for WP:BLP reasons. As an admin, please may you do so? &#39;&#39;&#39;tAD&#39;&#39;&#39; (talk) 14:27, 15 April 2015 (UTC)
 * On checking the IP's contributions, practically all of his edits are malicious libel and need deleting. &#39;&#39;&#39;tAD&#39;&#39;&#39; (talk) 14:30, 15 April 2015 (UTC)

Tip
Hello GS, hope you're well,

regarding this thread that you started (please see here https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Archive268#Topic_ban_proposal_for_Royroydeb), you may want to have a look in User:MYS77's page (message titled "Incredible!"), I will now message the person which is the subject of said discussion after seeing what I saw as i cleaned up Mário Felgueiras' article.

Best regards --84.90.219.128 (talk) 15:08, 15 April 2015 (UTC)


 * Ah, and please take a look at Erik Lima too, GS. He did almost the same thing (brilliant storyline, using a Soccerway profile 17 times), also naming the article to a DYK shortly after. Thanks, MYS  77  ✉ 15:21, 15 April 2015 (UTC)

More, in Roberto Firmino... --84.90.219.128 (talk) 16:20, 15 April 2015 (UTC)


 * - responding here to keep it all in one place.


 * I do not share the concerns of our fellow editors above, however I do feel that you are adding a lot of trivial/routine information. We do not need a running commentary on a player's career - "he did this, scored that, in this minute" etc. it's just overkill. Please bear it in mind in future. GiantSnowman 17:29, 15 April 2015 (UTC)

Jr. comma RfC
You're invited to participate in the discussion at Village_pump_(policy) Dohn joe (talk) 01:59, 16 April 2015 (UTC)

Luca Gasparotto
Hello GS, could you please delete Luca Gasparotto, I tagged it a while ago and it hasn't been touched. Thanks, JMHamo (talk) 17:18, 17 April 2015 (UTC)

If you're blocking
the 74.105... editors on sight for block evasion, last night's one's here. The previous couple were 74.105.184.77 and 74.105.184.90, for what it's worth. Daresay a range block's impractical? cheers, Struway2 (talk) 08:09, 18 April 2015 (UTC)


 * Also, if you fancy giving this one a little holiday, seeing as they started again this morning after a final warning yesterday... They don't just update stats without a proper datestamp, they intersperse doing that with changing stats at random and changing players' clubs. It's the same editor as the multiply-warned 81.132.218.159, who stopped after they got a final warning: the IPs geolocate to the same place, which doesn't necessarily prove anything, but they also use the same odd phrasing as each other. cheers, Struway2 (talk) 08:33, 18 April 2015 (UTC)

Roberto Firmino
If you will interfere this drastically with an article currently under GA review again, I will have you blocked. Thank you. Zwerg Nase (talk) 13:34, 18 April 2015 (UTC)

Zawisza Bydgoszcz
Hi GS, can you review recent edits at the above page and at. I believe there are issues relating to undue weight, use of unreliable sources, civility in edit summaries and edits that do not reflect the sources. Regards. Eldumpo (talk) 18:25, 18 April 2015 (UTC)

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Changes to to WP:FPL
When commenting on their talk page, I just noticed you've had some run-ins with Abcmaxx as well. I'd appreciate your support in dealing with this user's attempt to force changes to WP:FPL without discussion. I'm hoping comments from a previously uninvolved editor and administrator will make it clear that undiscussed changes to that page are not okay. Also, blocking both of us (Abcmaxx and myself) for edit-warring may not be an unreasonable course of action, but I'll leave that up to you, assuming you're not too involved with them elsewhere. Thanks in advance. Sir Sputnik (talk) 05:05, 20 April 2015 (UTC)

Olympiacos Changes
Olympiacos last night win the championship in Greece. All player which are in the roster must be update. What is your problem?? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dante77782 (talk • contribs)

Template:Scottish elections
Could you do me a favour and permanently fully protect this template? A couple of editors have been attempting to make the same change to it for a couple of years now (it started in August 2013), and despite discussions and even an RFC, there has never been a consensus for their edits and they have repeatedly returned every few months to make the same edits. It's getting rather tiresome, so unfortunately I see full protection as the only way of forcing them into getting consensus. It's already been protected once, but they returned after it was unprotected. Cheers, Number   5  7  19:26, 20 April 2015 (UTC)
 * I'm not sure there's any use in discussing it with the parties already involved. A new RfC with further outside input would probably be preferable. I'm just sick of seeing this appear on my watchlist, and I don't think they'll stop until they've got what they want. Number   5  7  19:36, 20 April 2015 (UTC)
 * Well, unfortunately I think the hornet's nest has been poked now, so we'll see what happens. Please do keep an eye on the template for more reverting though. Number   5  7  19:44, 20 April 2015 (UTC)

List of association football rivalries
Hi GS, can you review AbcMaxx's recent reversions of my edits at the above article. He is mostly re-adding unreferenced information without summaries. I note in particular he has removed the comment about only adding entries that are sourced. Don't want to get involved in an edit war. Thanks. Eldumpo (talk) 07:54, 25 April 2015 (UTC)

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Stop being a nuisance
Stop trying to stop me adding refs. I get it, don't keep anything unreferenced, but if can't let me add them then what do you want me to do? Stop being a complete idiot please. I was in the process of adding refs! Thanks for your help (not) Abcmaxx (talk) 16:00, 26 April 2015 (UTC)

Max Power (footballer)
Hi, please can you add Tranmere's division for each season onto the stats table for this wonderfully-named midfielder. It would be especially important as if he does not leave, he will be playing in his third different league in three seasons next campaign. Thank you in advance &#39;&#39;&#39;tAD&#39;&#39;&#39; (talk) 18:10, 26 April 2015 (UTC)

Notable?
Is this a keeper: Vincent Vanderpool Wallace? Dirtlawyer1 (talk) 18:43, 26 April 2015 (UTC)
 * Yes; the source indicates the player has played in 3 FIFA-sanctioned international matches. The article needs to say that though. Luke no 94  (tell Luke off here) 19:22, 26 April 2015 (UTC)

Edit summary help
Hi, Could you help me to remove edit summary in this edit. It was not very nice. <i style="font-family:Sans-serif"><b style="color:blue">QED</b><b style="color:red">237</b>&#160;<b style="color:green">(talk)</b></i> 17:43, 27 April 2015 (UTC)


 * Perhaps also this edit summary which may be from the same person if you look at edit history for Billy_Mckay. Thanks in advance. <i style="font-family:Sans-serif"><b style="color:blue">QED</b><b style="color:red">237</b>&#160;<b style="color:green">(talk)</b></i> 17:46, 27 April 2015 (UTC)


 * This edit may help prove it is the same aggressive person. <i style="font-family:Sans-serif"><b style="color:blue">QED</b><b style="color:red">237</b>&#160;<b style="color:green">(talk)</b></i> 17:49, 27 April 2015 (UTC)


 * Thank you very much for the help. I found an other bad edit summary here, hopefully the last one. <i style="font-family:Sans-serif"><b style="color:blue">QED</b><b style="color:red">237</b>&#160;<b style="color:green">(talk)</b></i> 18:12, 27 April 2015 (UTC)

Nope I was wrong sorry
Well No actually he was right this time. my bad

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2015 NRL season
Sorry to bother again but could you have a look at recent edits at this article. Unreferenced material being added back in. Thanks. Eldumpo (talk) 18:08, 28 April 2015 (UTC)

Gringoladomenega
Gringoladomenega is back. SLBedit (talk) 22:42, 28 April 2015 (UTC)

User:Gringoladomenega may have been fairly blocked in the past here or there, but in the articles (or two of the articles) that led to this report (Léo (footballer, born 1990) and Alan Kardec) he is 100% right, and I elaborate: 1 - the name of the article is Associação Portuguesa de Desportos, and Linense does not have stats appearing in the infobox because it's only regional appearances, not national ones; 2 - player is known as Kardec, period, not Alan Kardec, and you show that in the start of every paragraph, then "he" or "the player" suffices until the next paragraph (more or less an example could be João Vieira Pinto, yes for some he is known by all three surnames, but when we mention him in a storyline, "Pinto" suffices). Don't understand why Mr. SLB is reverting there, my two cents.

Having said that, I am only here to serve as a mediator after being contacted by Mr. Gringo (who is definitely not a vandal, even though his many blocks belie that statement), and profited by leaving my opinion above. I'm not touching those two articles with a 10-feet pole, rest assured, no warring from me.

Attentively, to all parties involved --84.90.219.128 (talk) 00:52, 29 April 2015 (UTC)


 * Agreed with Vasco there. Gringo isn't wrong in these cases, and SLB is reverting him for nothing. Cheers, MYS  77  ✉ 03:51, 29 April 2015 (UTC)
 * I'm not reverting "him" for nothing. The guy (BenjaWF, Gringoladomenega) wants to change dates in Alan Kardec by force. SLBedit (talk) 17:31, 30 April 2015 (UTC)
 * - I need more than that I am afraid, you would need to open a WP:SPI with evidence to show that this is the same editor (WP:DUCK) - a CheckUser will not link a named account to an IP address., who blocked Gringoladomenega in the first place, might be able to assist further. GiantSnowman 11:41, 29 April 2015 (UTC)
 * I won't take any action here unless GiantSnowman recommends it. Technically, User:Gringoladomenega is still blocked. Past experience suggests he may get in trouble again through edit warring. I suppose we can wait and see. EdJohnston (talk) 13:28, 29 April 2015 (UTC)

Article You Deleted Re-appears
This article (Ryder Ripps) you deleted has re-appeared. I've posted some more notes on it here: User_talk:John. --Hierarchypedia (talk) 16:37, 30 April 2015 (UTC)

Danny Light
Hello GS,

There's been some to-ing and fro-ing on Light's page in the last few months following his death in October 2014. Unsually, this has not been published on the official CPFC website. I came by the information via Ian King, author of,, who published it on the CPFC BBS forum. (It will obviously go into the next up-dated edition of the book itself). Not normally acceptable as a ref. obviously, but am wondering if it could be used in this instance, bearing in mind the source, making it clear exactly who the information has come from. As the page stands, it indicates that someone who died six months ago is actually still alive. (No problem if you don't think it's acceptable!) Thanks. Regards, Eagleash (talk) 12:21, 2 May 2015 (UTC)

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Jimmy Greaves
I think page needs protecting (or whatever the correct procedure is). There's already un-sourced edits that he's died, whereas BBC sport reported an hour ago that he was extremely ill but in intensive care. Thanks. Eagleash (talk) 11:03, 4 May 2015 (UTC)
 * Thanks Eagleash (talk) 12:04, 4 May 2015 (UTC)

Template:Medal -- association football issues
Hey, GS. How's my favorite Yorkshireman? I need a football perspective in this discussion: User talk:Sillyfolkboy. I would be grateful if you would chime in with suggestions for how this should be resolved. Thanks. Dirtlawyer1 (talk) 19:55, 4 May 2015 (UTC)

I'm surprised it's taken me this long to notice
but this editor is obviously this indefblocked editor. Apart from similarity of interests, their edit summary style is unmistakable. cheers, Struway2 (talk) 19:02, 6 May 2015 (UTC)

David Lindsay (English footballer) & edits to CPFC
Hi GS, I'm possibly missing something obvious here, but did you mean to re-direct David Lindsay (footballer) just to the David Lindsay disambiguation page and not David Lindsay (English footballer)? Regards, Eagleash (talk) 21:43, 6 May 2015 (UTC)
 * Secondly, I recently made an edit to the CPFC page here and cited a book reference. Another editor has removed it here with a slightly presumptuous (IMO) edit summary. Not wanting to get into an argument over it, do you think the edit and citation was OK as I originally entered it or does another editor's assumption outweigh a published book. (Especially as the previous paragraph contains "it is believed" for the origins of the club). Just looking for a bit of advice. Thanks. Eagleash (talk) 10:46, 7 May 2015 (UTC)
 * Understood; I see your point but it confused me for a while! :P Thanks for the help on the CPFC page. Best, Eagleash (talk) 16:47, 7 May 2015 (UTC)

Manual of Style/Biographies
I'm not certain if your stance has changed or not. But, it would help to have your input at the MOS talkpage. GoodDay (talk) 22:50, 7 May 2015 (UTC)

Vandalism-only account: User:Pnevin
Hey, GS. I just stumbled across the Paul Nevin (swimmer) article while working on Canadian Olympic swimmers. The article is a complete fabrication, and the user has also inserted fraudulent/hoax information into Olympic swimming results and sports awards articles. I have sent the article to AfD, slapped a G3 speedy template in the article, and reverted the hoax inserts in other articles, but I think our friend deserves a swift indefinite block for his blatant hoax activities, too. Dirtlawyer1 (talk) 16:46, 8 May 2015 (UTC)
 * Wow. You're fast.  Were you that quick on the pitch?  If so, you need to quit your day job, and return to the Beautiful Game.  Dirtlawyer1 (talk) 17:14, 8 May 2015 (UTC)

(TPS) Never let me down in the past, and he does it again! Good work my wiki-friend, and apologize this silly user for (continuously) sending the WP guidelines packing :( Keep it up, from Portugal --84.90.219.128 (talk) 20:09, 8 May 2015 (UTC)

Eliot Kebbie
hello, I'm a friend on Facebook and if you follow @ElliotKebbie on twitter you will find everything I have changed to be correct. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Johnsenior2055 (talk • contribs)

All these articles
I'm not sure if you already noticed by now, but since the first week of the USL season, I've created over 70 articles. That's in a stretch of just over a month. Too much work. With all these new teams. Having to direct traffic, figuring out which articles met the guidelines and which ones didn't. Thankfully everything has settled down. I gotta ask you though, have you ever done that much work on Wikipedia in a short stretch? – Michael (talk) 17:31, 9 May 2015 (UTC)

Riyad Mahrez
He's notable for being a footballer and as a footballer he represents Algeria. He's never represented any other country. Football is governed by FIFA and his FIFA profile lists him as an Algerian. If there was any controversy about his nationality I would not be changing but to remove nationality from his intro is ridiculous. Also, if you want references, here are some articles from today from very reputable sources: from FIFA, the Express, Business Insider, Daily Mail, The Guardian, etc. that all refer to him as Algerian. Not a single one of them refers to him as French. If you want to take it to WP:FOOTY be my guest. Also, stop removing referenced information from articles, as an admin you know very well that that's not acceptable. If you insist on changing specific bits of information that you don't agree with, go ahead .. but don't remove referenced information. You might be admin but that doesn't allow you to go around bullying others and making changes as you see fit. TonyStarks (talk) 22:41, 9 May 2015 (UTC)
 * So instead of taking 2 seconds to fix the reference you decided to just remove the entire section? Great admin work! TonyStarks (talk) 22:42, 9 May 2015 (UTC)

Oldstone James
Hi, User:Oldstone James has created a lot of bad pages when he has tested templates (despite I told him to stop here). Can you take a look and perhaps delete what should not exists like for example:
 * Module:Sports table/WDL/testcases (can not CSD)
 * Module:Sports table/testcases (can not CSD)
 * Template:Ewofjkwejfoie/testcases (I put CSD)
 * Template:Football table/testcases (I put CSD)
 * Template:Test Template/testcases (I put CSD)

Also I believe he is also the dynamic IP who has edited on the pages. It does not really seems like he knows what to do and there has been issues in the past. He dont understand difference between sandbox and testcases as one example. And none of the "template testcases" has any parent template.

Or should we go through CSD or XfD? I could not put the module subpage as CSD. <i style="font-family:Sans-serif"><b style="color:blue">QED</b><b style="color:red">237</b>&#160;<b style="color:green">(talk)</b></i> 23:02, 9 May 2015 (UTC)


 * Also Template:Fb cf/testcases and Template:Fb cf which seem weird. <i style="font-family:Sans-serif"><b style="color:blue">QED</b><b style="color:red">237</b>&#160;<b style="color:green">(talk)</b></i> 23:09, 9 May 2015 (UTC)

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Carpi F.C. 1909
I opened a new move request for Carpi. CapPixel (talk) 11:17, 10 May 2015 (UTC)

article notability
is this article notable? --SuperJew (talk) 17:24, 10 May 2015 (UTC)


 * No, doesn't look to be notable at all. GiantSnowman 17:29, 10 May 2015 (UTC)


 * You're welcome to open a deletion process and I'll support --SuperJew (talk) 18:27, 10 May 2015 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of Al-Namrood


The article Al-Namrood has been proposed for deletion&#32; because of the following concern:
 * This band is an indie band with several albums (none reviewed that I have been able to find), and, fundamentally, can't publicize themselves or play live shows because of where they live. I'm not sure even how the one source was done that is out there.  Nevertheless, no coverage means they don't meet GNG.

While all constructive contributions to Wikipedia are appreciated, content or articles may be deleted for any of several reasons.

You may prevent the proposed deletion by removing the notice, but please explain why in your edit summary or on |the article's talk page.

Please consider improving the article to address the issues raised. Removing will stop the proposed deletion process, but other deletion processes exist. In particular, the speedy deletion process can result in deletion without discussion, and articles for deletion allows discussion to reach consensus for deletion. MSJapan (talk) 21:35, 10 May 2015 (UTC)

Our friend from New Jersey
Not sure if you're aware of his expression of remorse... cheers, Struway2 (talk) 17:09, 11 May 2015 (UTC)

Formose Mendy
GS, I really don't understand what is going on with your approach towards my work, but I'm feeling rather sad, for lack of a better word. Didn't someone back in the day (can't remember if it was you, honestly, but I think it was at WP:FOOTY) that intros did not have necessarily to be ref'd? Well, I moved past that, and if you are to insert refs that are mere links in intro, followed by another in box, well so be it, I have to respect your work and I apologize for any wrongdoings in summaries, sincerely.

Now, for some respect towards my work if you please: 1 - well, I guess that the height removal was only an accident last time, happens to the best; 2 - I don't see where youth spells with amateurs merit to be mentioned in the storyline, but again you win. However, in reference #3, Mr. Mendy says midway through the article "À 14 ans, je suis parti à l’Olympique Lyonnais. Je suis resté 3 ans.", translated to English it is "At age 14, I left for Olympique Lyonnais. I stayed 3 years there.", so he represented that club from 14 to 17, you removed that in box and storyline; 3 - much more serious, what is the problem in having (an) external link(s)? I'm completely baffled with that, especially with the removal of BDFUTBOL (he spent FIVE years in Spain) and FOOTBALLDATABASE (it was not a link posing as a ref previously, like SOCCERWAY or NFT, so I thought you'd "allow" that, fat chance). And please don't say, "We prefer to cite directly", I understand where you are coming from, and pretty much everything is directly cited as of now, and the links are H-A-R-M-L-E-S-S. I admit that removing SOCCERBASE was not a bad idea in whole (it says there he played for Belgian club Waregem, and he didn't, but I don't know your reasons for removing, right now my two cents go to the fact that you did it because it was a link, period).

If am going to start a WP:FOOTY discussion, BDFUTBOL has to be reinstated in the article as a link (if only that one, I have seen thousands of articles with both that and NFT being used as both links and refs and nobody touches them). Please do participate (maybe you will be the only one that will drop a line there and maybe because I am directly notifying you, but we'll see). Attentively --84.90.219.128 (talk) 14:53, 12 May 2015 (UTC)

Templates not used
Hi, I wanted to go to you before doing something stupid. I have a question about Template:Fb rbr t pos1. After one of the AfD put up tonight and motivation from the creator at that AfD-article I looked at other creations from that user. I then found the template and clicked "what links here" and it seems empty? I tried looking at CSD (with twinkle) but could not find any good criteria, do I have to do TfD then?

Also if you could express your opinion on Turkish Super League Teams Ranking According to League Positions and Turkish Super League all time table, they are unsourced in the same way as the article at the current AfD and I am not sure about notability. Are they notable or should I take them to footy or AfD?

Thanks for all answers I can get. <i style="font-family:Sans-serif"><b style="color:blue">QED</b><b style="color:red">237</b>&#160;<b style="color:green">(talk)</b></i> 22:55, 12 May 2015 (UTC)

Proposed deletion
Hi. Recently you have proposed the following articles for deletion: Slovenian under-15 League, Slovenian under-17 League. Both articles are integral part on the series regarding Football in Slovenia. I will remove your proposal from the two articles for the time being, potentially preventing deletion based on pov. If you feel they should be deleted you may put forward another proposal for deletion and delete the articles, however, only after reaching consensus which you do not have at this time (1/1). Regards, Ratipok (talk) 23:48, 12 May 2015 (UTC)

Improper edit summary
Hi again, could you help me to remove this edit summary? Thank you. <i style="font-family:Sans-serif"><b style="color:blue">QED</b><b style="color:red">237</b>&#160;<b style="color:green">(talk)</b></i> 13:57, 14 May 2015 (UTC)

Admin
Can you nominate me to be an administrator please? <b style="font-family:tahoma"><b style="color:green">Tea</b><b style="color:blue">Lover</b><b style="color:red">1996</b> (talk) </b> 15:03, 14 May 2015 (UTC)


 * Hi, GiantSnowman. On related matter, can I ask you to look at Requests for adminship/TeaLover1996 and Requests for adminship/Qed237. I strongly believe they have not been created in the right way as they not show up at WP:RFA (even after purging). Also I would like to say that I just saw my name when I looked at the edit history of User:TeaLover1996 to see if any other page was edited when making request (which was not the case but should be?) and I have no interest at the moment of becoming an administrator (but flattering someone nominated me). About TeaLover1996 it is up to everyone to make up their own mind, but in my opinion he is not close to become an admin, he seems more interested in knowing how I feel about different things, my favourite soccer team and so on then actually editing (see my talkpage) and has just recently become a pending changes reviewer and got new warnings after that. In my opinion a few years of experience might be needed. <i style="font-family:Sans-serif"><b style="color:blue">QED</b><b style="color:red">237</b>&#160;<b style="color:green">(talk)</b></i> 21:49, 14 May 2015 (UTC)

Memphis Americans
Is this were I talk to you? I think when I chose my user name that it has confused you. I have no relationship with the official Memphis Americans Web page. I am just a person who grew up watching them play. In fact the team no longer exists. The website does however have photos of Toni and other relevant information on his career. Thanks for all you do here. And please suggest what should be changed if I need to do anything. Also I just looked and the site does not have any advertising just a memoriem site. I have requested a user name change So to not give an impression of conflict. Thanks

Thank for the information and I have a user name change request in. I will also read up on the information you provided. — Preceding unsigned comment added by MemphisAmericans (talk • contribs) 15:15, 14 May 2015 (UTC)

Charles Dow Sr.
Hi-I started an article about Charles Dow Sr. who served in the Maine Legislature. I notice you started a stub about Chuck Dow the same person. I redirected the stub about Chuck Dow to the article about Charles Dow Sr. Please let me know if you have any comments. Thank you-RFD (talk) 19:31, 14 May 2015 (UTC)

Old deletion
You had deleted Amir Tafa back in 2012, can you check if it still qualifies for deletion the way it did then? Thanks.  Occult Zone  (Talk • Contributions • Log) 23:10, 14 May 2015 (UTC)

DYK for John Macdonald (sportsman)
PanydThe muffin is not subtle 07:54, 15 May 2015 (UTC)

Harriette Colenso
Stop your trolling. It isn't helpful. FunkyCanute (talk) 11:18, 15 May 2015 (UTC)

Good Article review help (?)
Hey, GS. I was contemplating doing a GA review for the Vratislav Lokvenc article, which has had a GA nomination pending for more than two months. I can easily handle the GA criteria, formatting, etc., but since I don't write a lot of association football articles, it would be nice to have a wingman to help check/critique the article's substance. Interested? Dirtlawyer1 (talk) 12:07, 15 May 2015 (UTC)

Help
Hi GS i would be glad if you could assist me to be a better wikipedian,my specialty is in football.(Jwale2 (talk) 18:23, 16 May 2015 (UTC))

Possible vandalism
Considering you are empowered with some extra admin buttons and that you know what you are doing, I am contacting you with a question about Fringe theories on the location of New Albion. I noticed the latest edit and was going to undo it, but it seems like the edit is a a bit rude. So, I wonder if it is vandalism. Could you please take a look at it? I'd like to know your thoughts. When you look at my Wikipedia experience, you'll see I am very much a novice if not simply a beginner. I look forward to hearing from you. Horst59 (talk) 23:36, 16 May 2015 (UTC)


 * Sniffing around a little, I also see similar edits done to Drake Navigators Guild. I undid those.Horst59 (talk) 23:36, 16 May 2015 (UTC)
 * Thanks for getting back to me. I'll look up vandalism and give it a shot.Horst59 (talk) 15:34, 17 May 2015 (UTC)

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Inappropriate behaviour
Hi, could you look at User talk:Lucagaragozzo? The editor vandalize pages and is very aggressive. Some edit summaries might need cleaning. Thank you. <i style="font-family:Sans-serif"><b style="color:blue">Qed</b><b style="color:red">237</b>&#160;<b style="color:green">(talk)</b></i> 21:46, 19 May 2015 (UTC)

Wednesday Group listed at Redirects for discussion
An editor has asked for a discussion to address the redirect Wednesday Group. Since you had some involvement with the Wednesday Group redirect, you might want to participate in the redirect discussion if you have not already done so. Mr. Guye (talk) 22:56, 19 May 2015 (UTC)

Reverts at football articles
So what's with the reverts? Have you read the articles of the players? They are foreign-born Pakistanis who qualified to play for the Pakistan national football team due to their Pakistani heritage. Hence they qualify for the category.  Mar4d  ( talk ) 12:31, 21 May 2015 (UTC)
 * Replied on my talk page.  Mar4d  ( talk ) 12:41, 21 May 2015 (UTC)

User:GiantSnowman/Chelsea 2–4 Bradford City move
Greetings,

I've moved the page back from Draft: to its original place in User: because the move looked like pagemove vandalism to me, given the edit summary. If I was in error, feel free to revert. Cheers!--Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk) 18:17, 22 May 2015 (UTC)

Italian regional origin of Oriundis
Should I add references to the 80+ pages or is it also something else that made you revert all these edits? --Kiwi (talk) 17:03, 24 May 2015 (UTC)
 * It doesn't seem to me that users came to an agreement about the usefulness or not of these categories, so it doesn't really answers my question. --Kiwi (talk) 17:24, 24 May 2015 (UTC)

TAFI week 22, 2015 update
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Michel Platini
Why are you continuing to revert it? His Piedmontese descent is sourced... --Kiwi (talk) 16:34, 25 May 2015 (UTC)

question please ...
Hello mate, I just found this

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_most_expensive_association_football_transfers

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_football_transfer_record

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transfer_(association_football)

they sounded all the same for me.. should we move them to one article ? and work on improving it ? what do you think ? do i need to post a request somewhere for stuff like this ? =).

thank you =).

Adnan (talk) 02:00, 26 May 2015 (UTC)

3RR
Hello GS, how's it going?

I promise to leave the concerned article(s) in peace (for the moment overall, forever regarding the namings tag). I also have "thanked" the other user for the gratuitous insult. Sorry for any inconvenience --84.90.219.128 (talk) 12:55, 28 May 2015 (UTC)


 * I know I definitely should use the articles' talkpage more often, but I fear they don't do much good in most of the cases (meaning, I have seen hundreds of relatively well-developed articles with no talkpage content whatsoever). --84.90.219.128 (talk) 20:01, 28 May 2015 (UTC)

User has resumed the activity in the mentioned articles (and more), like it was asked of me I stay pat. --84.90.219.128 (talk) 14:04, 29 May 2015 (UTC)

He is commiting 3RR. My edits have nothing wrong as they are Catalan who speak Catalan--lauyulam 14:24, 29 May 2015 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Lauyulam (talk • contribs)
 * Lauyulam, you do not get to decide what is or is not consensus here. You are not listening to other editors' advice and have resorted to edit warring- many times. <sub style="color:green;">Fortuna <sup style="color:red;">Imperatrix Mundi  14:31, 29 May 2015 (UTC)

Is you not listening to me - many times. --lauyulam 14:33, 29 May 2015 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Lauyulam (talk • contribs)

Fact is fact and I have stated reason in edit summary. --lauyulam 14:37, 29 May 2015 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Lauyulam (talk • contribs)
 * WP:BLP alterations such as you have been making require reliable sources to back them up. You have consistently failed to provide these. Can you please also remember to sign your posts by typing ~ at the end. <sub style="color:green;">Fortuna <sup style="color:red;">Imperatrix Mundi  14:40, 29 May 2015 (UTC)

- Just to let you know there's a still-open EW regarding this editor here- should it be closed? Cheers. Administrators' noticeboard/Edit warring <sub style="color:green;">Fortuna  <sup style="color:red;">Imperatrix Mundi  17:16, 29 May 2015 (UTC)


 * I have closed the AN:EW report, it will be archived automatically in due course. GiantSnowman 17:21, 29 May 2015 (UTC)

...- If you could gave a look at the editor's last couple of TP edit summaries-? Cheers <sub style="color:green;">Fortuna  <sup style="color:red;">Imperatrix Mundi  12:23, 30 May 2015 (UTC)
 * - TP access removed. GiantSnowman 12:28, 30 May 2015 (UTC)

- Back again GS; you might want to have a look at latest addition to his TP, and previous edit summary. Cheers, <sub style="color:green;">Fortuna  <sup style="color:red;">Imperatrix Mundi  18:09, 1 June 2015 (UTC)
 * - raised at WP:ANI. GiantSnowman 18:18, 1 June 2015 (UTC)

Bantams Banter
User:GiantSnowman Hi there, I've responded to your questions regarding the Bantams Banter page, at this time I've removed the deletion header and made a case for the page's inclusion. Full details are on the talk page. Many thanks for taking the time to review the page. I respectfully request more time to expand the page - hence why I placed the under construction header. (RedJulianG40 (talk) 20:20, 29 May 2015 (UTC))

User:GiantSnowman I have made further updates to this page, I ask you to review and remove the deletion request as this page is noteworthy for inclusion for the reasons explained. If you do not agree I would appreciate an open dialogue as to your reasons for deletion. (RedJulianG40 (talk) 08:21, 31 May 2015 (UTC))

Players being released
Hi. Thanks for the message you left me regarding playing contracts. I understand about player contracts expiring at the end of June/July - but please note on this occasion that that St. Mirren's official news release states that the players have now left the club - not that they will be leaving. The same also goes for the two players who were on loan, they have been returned to their parent clubs already. Thanks (Andybud (talk) 10:24, 30 May 2015 (UTC))
 * We will have to agree to disagree. The official release states "have left the club". I cant speculate on such matters, and only wish to state the official information released by the club, and as such have done so. Cheers. (Andybud (talk) 10:30, 30 May 2015 (UTC))

Protection of Nicolás Otamendi
If you're around could you please semi-protect that page for the next few days? As he's in the media eye due to a likely high-profile transfer, probably to Man Utd, unconfirmed as yet, the page is attracting vandals and people changing his club side to ridiculous options like FC Khar, Legia Warsaw, Accrington, Warrington and York City. I filed a request for page protection, but that page seems backlogged and in the meantime, there's ongoing disruption to the page. Valenciano (talk) 14:11, 30 May 2015 (UTC)


 * Thanks. Valenciano (talk) 14:20, 30 May 2015 (UTC)

Kelvin Davis
Could you please correct the infobox on this article. He has only played 269 LEAGUE matches for Southamptom. The figure of 300 relates to matches in all competitions. Thanks. 190.14.56.218 (talk) 03:00, 31 May 2015 (UTC)

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Request for deletion of an article
Hi GiantSnowman, thanks for appreciating my edit on your article Sadiq El Fitouri. I have to tell you the article AaaaaAAaaaAAAaaAAAAaAAAAA!!! – A Reckless Disregard for Gravity is 70% no use of being in a encyclopedia. I am asking you as you are an administrator that please look at the article and see what you think about. Please inform me. Jake Redmond (talk) 15:26, 1 June 2015 (UTC)

Another edit on User:GiantSnowman/Sadiq El Fitouri
Hello GiantSnowman, edited your article User:GiantSnowman/Sadiq El Fitouri and added the information that I left out on the website that your bit of article was sourced from. Hope you appreciate it.

Another edit on User:GiantSnowman/Sadiq El Fitouri
Hello GiantSnowman, edited your article User:GiantSnowman/Sadiq El Fitouri and added the information that I left out on the website that your bit of article was sourced from. Hope you appreciate it. Jake Redmond (talk) 15:50, 1 June 2015 (UTC)

Protection of Diego Maradona
Hi GiantSnowman, the past 5 days or so the article Diego Maradona has been seen vandalised and there has been made up teams with ridicilous names like "Fatty United", "Drug Smugglers FC" that completely make fun of Diego Maradona and his life. So can you please semi protect the article to prevent the amount of vandalism.

All Vandalism on (see above)

Friday: 71.8% Saturday: 48% Sunday: 35% Monday: (the day this post has been sended) 0%

Please can you semi protect it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jake Redmond (talk • contribs) 16:00, 1 June 2015 (UTC)

Please read this...
I am sending you this in a bad mood:

1. Diego Maradona is not protected, if you look yourself, 2. You have deleted all my edits on your page when you congratulated me on it. Which I'm 95% really annoyed with, 3. My page Sam Howes was vandalised!, 4. I am a bit annoyed with you 65%, 5. Oh sorry about the edit alerts

Why did you delete my edit
Hello GiantSnowman, sorry for disturbing you, but I am in a bad mood, and I wanted to ask a question to you.

Why did you delete the edit I made on your article that you praised me for adding???

I want to know this, so when you know the answer, please post it on my talk page immediately. I immediately want to know, I am not in a good mood, and you made it 65% worser. You have deleted the phrase He said: He said: "This is honestly a dream come true for me." which I didn't copyright. I swear. Please, I beg to you, inform me when you know the answer — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jake Redmond (talk • contribs) 17:43, 1 June 2015 (UTC)

Sam Howes is my article and Sorry
Sam Howes is my article, see my user page. If it isn't mine, who's is it???. I swear BIG this time, I created Sam Howes from the sources of his FA.com profile and Transfermarket profile. I beg you I am not lying, If you asked God, he would say Yes. Please, Sam Howes is a page I created, look it here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jake_Redmond#My_articles Put that on your search tab and you'll see I'm not lying. I am 0.0000000000000000000000000000000000000% lying. I swear on my heart, girlfriend's heart, my football team's heart, my life. I am not Lying. I don't care if you reply saying "Stop saying I swear," I know that. Sorry for disturbing you. Also when I was making one of the posts it was BEFORE you told me that the first one was true and the second one was copyrighted. Regards Jake Redmond (talk) 17:51, 1 June 2015 (UTC)

User:Alexiulian25
Hi GiantSnowman, I was wondering if you could have a word to User:Alexiulian25. He has gone on a bit of a rampage of adding links to football articles which is clearly in breach of WP:Overlink. I dropped him a note in regards to this but it hasn't stopped him. In some cases, like this one, his edits are downright silly. Regards, Calistemon (talk) 21:18, 2 June 2015 (UTC)
 * No worries. Do you think I should just revert all his overlinking? I'm not overly keen on an edit war. Calistemon (talk) 11:58, 3 June 2015 (UTC)

Help
Hello, I have come to you for advise as I have had some good advise from you in the past. I have been regulary updating all clubs from Premiership to National League (Tiers 1-5) in English football season pages. The one I need advise on is the 2015–16 Blackpool F.C. season article. On the transfers situations when a player is released by the club and moves to a subsequent club I have edited that in as well but noted using templete efn to say the player has moved following his release. However, I have a user who keeps removing the edits saying they are not moving from one club to another and it is false information. I have put the information back a couple of times but again it keeps getting undid. How can I go about this? Thanks Skyblueshaun (talk) 20:19, 4 June 2015 (UTC)

Hello,
Can you take a look at this ? thank you :)
 * My friend SLBedit, found this https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Football/Players ,so I posted at wikiproject.. do I need to post it at the talk page of this page and ask my question about at it? what do you think ?Adnan (talk) 00:31, 5 June 2015 (UTC)

Tom Cleverley
Hello GS, could you please semi-protect Tom Cleverley... he's today's transfer story and getting a lot of unhelpful IP edits. Thanks, JMHamo (talk) 11:26, 5 June 2015 (UTC)

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help please.
can you please protect Claudio Bravo (footballer) and Thomas Vermaelen pages ips keep change honors. thank you Adnan (talk) 07:42, 9 June 2015 (UTC)


 * Thank you, I thought it could be go for under reach .. but anyway here is the reference :
 * http://www.fcbarcelona.com/football/first-team/staff/players/c-bravo

Adnan (talk) 14:23, 9 June 2015 (UTC)
 * there is a reference now for winning it, but ips still change it, can you please protect it ?Adnan (talk) 14:51, 9 June 2015 (UTC)


 * Ok thank you :) Adnan (talk) 15:08, 9 June 2015 (UTC)

RfC: Proposal to allow non-admin "delete" closures at TfD
Hi GiantSnowman. Given that it was your reversion of my delete NAC that ultimately sparked the aforementioned RfC, you might be interested to comment there. Thanks. Alakzi (talk) 17:10, 9 June 2015 (UTC)

Hello
Hi, can you take a look at Neymar's article ? at this ? the sentence ( Neymar was the man expected to win Brazil its sixth World Cup on home soil) doesn't sound as encyclopedic input..and more as a fan site sentence..what do you think ? thank you Adnan (talk) 23:48, 10 June 2015 (UTC)
 * Ok thank you ! I trust your opinion Adnan (talk) 18:05, 11 June 2015 (UTC)

DYK for Eric Bakie
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Question: June 15 2015
Hello GiantSnowman, I have a question for you:

If you create an article about yourself do you need reliable sources? Jamie Welford (talk) 17:11, 15 June 2015 (UTC)
 * You shouldn't write articles about yourself as that would be a very definite WP:COI; and as you would have to meet WP:GNG it would only be backed by WP:RS. That is, not sources you have made up out of thin air. <sub style="color:green;">Fortuna  <sup style="color:red;">Imperatrix Mundi  17:15, 15 June 2015 (UTC)
 * see also WP:AUTOBIO. GiantSnowman 17:36, 15 June 2015 (UTC)

Donaldson Sackey ‎
Hi there its a mistake i have all the links here if you can edit it it will be well — Preceding unsigned comment added by Trevor2015 (talk • contribs) 18:29, 15 June 2015 (UTC)

http://www.nwcfl.com/news-articles.php?id=2288 http://www.vavel.com/fr/international/football-africain/167402-donaldson-sackey-je-veux-donner-encore-plus.html — Preceding unsigned comment added by Trevor2015 (talk • contribs) 18:33, 15 June 2015 (UTC)

How can i mail you with all the infos, links etc. so it can be put right — Preceding unsigned comment added by Trevor2015 (talk • contribs)

Antoher Question
I have an another question:

If I made a flim, book etc that hasn't been released and it hasn't been on the internet. If I made a Wikipedia article about it, does it need sources, becuase I know the movie characters, actors and plot. Do I need sources? Jamie Welford (talk) 18:45, 15 June 2015 (UTC)
 * Yes. <sub style="color:green;">Fortuna  <sup style="color:red;">Imperatrix Mundi  18:48, 15 June 2015 (UTC)


 * If it hasn't been released and there is no information about it on the internet, then it is almost certain that it doesn't satisfy Wikipedia's notability guidelines, so writing an article about it is likely to be a waste of time, as it will just be deleted. Jamie, forget about writing new articles until you have a lot more experience of what is acceptable on Wikipedia and what isn't. The editor who uses the pseudonym "JamesBWatson" (talk) 19:25, 15 June 2015 (UTC)

Re: Berardi
Yes, you are correct; Sorry, I just added that instinctively, without thinking, forgetting that the season (and loan) is now over! Best, Messirulez (talk) 03:01, 16 June 2015 (UTC)

Reckon-
''(User creation log); 18:19. . User account [Theone091288] (talk | contribs) was created ''

Check those contribs; + time of creation... am I being perhaps overly suspicious of football contributors now??? Even ones whose first edits are unsourced rumours etc <sub style="color:green;">Fortuna  <sup style="color:red;">Imperatrix Mundi  18:43, 16 June 2015 (UTC)

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WP:NSEASONS and WP:FOOTY
Hey, GS. When you have a moment, please take a look at WP:NSEASONS and this discussion on my user talk page: User talk:Dirtlawyer1. Apparently, the present wording of NSEASONS is being misinterpreted as a license to create season articles for "top" national football leagues in small countries, where such leagues are not considered to be "fully professional" in the usage of association football. The recent change to WP:NSEASONS made by User:Number 57, however, would open the floodgates to season articles for minor leagues in other sports -- minor leagues that are fully professional, including American minor league baseball. Ping me after you have had time to review and consider, and feel free to dial Number 57 into the conversation. Regards, Dirtlawyer1 (talk) 10:46, 19 June 2015 (UTC)

Jamaal Smith
Hello GiantSnowman... I've noticed that you've made changes to my article about myself, Jamaal Smith. All of what I have down there is actually factual. I am soon to be attending trials and have unfortunately dealt with an issue such as the idea that my birthday isn't actually on March 24th or whatever has been put down here. My bday is February 22nd and it's caused issues with clubs about my authenticity as a person by this fake birthday being listed. I don't feel comfortable putting down my birth certificate to prove that my bday is actually the February 22nd, 1988, but it'd be nice for you to be able to at least take my word on that part

As for other things I had provided and their links... Universiade/York University: http://www.mississauga.com/sports-story/3117421-smith-anchors-canada-defence/ http://www.canadasoccer.com/cis-announces-men-s-soccer-universiade-team-p146338

My play for Alpha United http://www.concacaf.com/article/alpha-united-to-rely-on-team-effort-in-cfu-play

As for recent Guyanese national team caps... http://www.gffonline.com/star-studded-golden-jaguars-squad-named-for-world-cup-qualifiers/ http://www.guyanatimesgy.com/2015/04/29/confident-golden-jaguars-off-to-suriname/ http://guyanachronicle.com/golden-jaguars-roar-to-an-impressive-2-0-win-over-st-lucia/

All in all, I would hope that some of the links provided can give enough proof to the fact that I am in fact Jamaal Smith. I would also like my caps that I have listed to be recorded as well as they're not falsified either. Hopefully all the changes you had originally made to my article can now be restored. I'm currently looking to head on trial to parts of Asia (India etc) and they will be looking at my Wiki as well, so for the truth about me and where I've been to be listed would aide me greatly. — Preceding unsigned comment added by OmaSmi21 (talk • contribs)

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Dion Cools
Hi GiantSnowman, Dion Cools transferred to Club Brugge and I've asked for the undeletion of the article. MBisanz would like you to give your opinion on this on his talk page -- Pelotas talk undefined contribs  19:04, 22 June 2015 (UTC)

user:Abcmaxx
Hi GS, having a few issues with the above again. Earlier today he reverted a number of my edits on various articles, generally involving the re-insertion of unreferenced/tagged material, with no edit summaries. Perhaps for any of those you disagree with his changes you could edit accordingly rather than me revert and get involved in an edit war? Regards. Eldumpo (talk) 11:41, 27 June 2015 (UTC)
 * What part of "CHALLENGE and MAY be removed" do you not understand? Where was the challenge in any of those deletions? You reduced a number of article to stub-length without citing any reason, with the majority of that rose perfectly good with internal links to other Wikipedia articles and links in "external links" section. Abcmaxx (talk) 12:25, 27 June 2015 (UTC)
 * do you have specific diffs? as I believe I have told you before you cannot re-add unsourced material to articles. GiantSnowman 09:30, 30 June 2015 (UTC)
 * Here are a few specific diffs:   . Eldumpo (talk) 17:22, 30 June 2015 (UTC)
 * thanks I have left them a final warning. GiantSnowman 18:32, 30 June 2015 (UTC)
 * you left me a final warning on phoenix clubs (sports). I would like to point out I added only those which articles themselves state they're phoenix clubs. but thanks for being a dick about it if you start ganging up on me again I shall appeal somewhere where the contributor's actually contribute to Wiikipedia and not make everyone's effort go to nothing Abcmaxx (talk) 06:38, 1 July 2015 (UTC)

Kevin Doherty
hi can u tell me why Kevin Doherty footballer 18/04/1980 page was deleted in October 13???? He was playing in a fully professional league in Ireland if you checked your facts right!! A couple of teams were semi pro alright but it was classed as a professional league.in fact he played in both champions league and Uefa cup games and u find it fit to delete the page!!! Not only that but he is the first team manger of Shelbourne now and I was looking to show one of his relatives I know his page and found it an error on your part!!!! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 46.7.81.121 (talk • contribs)

Thanks very much...
...for your support over at my RfA. I shall do my best to be worthy of it. -- Ser Amantio di Nicolao Che dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 00:55, 28 June 2015 (UTC)

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Link to ethnicity article
Hi! I would like to discuss this edit.

Traore is a person of African descent who was raised in the Paris area. I think people interested in Traore would also be interested in the Guinean community of Paris, and therefore I think the links to related articles are needed. WhisperToMe (talk) 09:49, 30 June 2015 (UTC)
 * Something like: "Traore, a person of Guinean descent born in Villepinte" with the link going somewhere in there? WhisperToMe (talk) 10:01, 30 June 2015 (UTC)

Greek disruption
In spite of your warning (see here https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/109.242.134.81) this user continues, with a level close to zero in English and overlinking and POV like none other. Please check César Arzo Amposta, unref'd charmers like "the fans loved his passion combined with a clear mind." or "They also worshiped him in Gent.". What the hey?! Nothing but a Greek footy fanboy, trying to make the current players competing in his country look the best!

You have been briefed, cheers --84.90.219.128 (talk) 00:55, 1 July 2015 (UTC)


 * Look in Hedwiges Maduro, a violation of WP:NOTNEWS if there ever was one (here https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Hedwiges_Maduro&diff=668937226&oldid=668936488). --84.90.219.128 (talk) 01:02, 1 July 2015 (UTC)

Also seems to operate with this IP (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/109.242.140.201), and God knows how many more! All the players in which I edit regularly (Spanish, Portuguese) have already been reverted. --84.90.219.128 (talk) 01:12, 1 July 2015 (UTC)

And another one (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/109.242.62.161), cheers --84.90.219.128 (talk) 14:47, 1 July 2015 (UTC)

International goals :
Hi a quick question please, two users removed international goals from messi and di maria ..but i remember someone told me long times ago the consensus is accept listing international goals and avoid silly league goals listing... and it seems most articles have the international goals. so is it true they shouldn't be listed ? if yes then should we remove them from all players articles ? thank you Adnan (talk) 16:54, 1 July 2015 (UTC)


 * Thank you for answering fast on wikipedia project but i am still confused it seems people isn't decided about this things right ? because some are saying it should be deleted and other saying it shouldn't . so what is the consensus and rule about this then ?Adnan (talk) 17:51, 1 July 2015 (UTC)

Bring it
GS, any chance the English girls will be joining the Americans in the final? FYI, I had the surreal experience of sitting in a north Atlanta sports pub last night, and hearing an almost-all-American crowd sing Deutschlandlied at the outset of the match. That said, despite some physicality and one memorable head butt, the Germans looked a little scared during most of the game. Dirtlawyer1 (talk) 20:17, 1 July 2015 (UTC)

Domenico Berardi
Hello, I just saw you reverted my edit on Domenico Berardi, the only reason I changed it to what I was trying to insert the word club to make it similar to other footballers articles. so did my edit considered disruptive or against wikipedia policy or against any consensus? If not then the reason you reverted based on your (personal) opinion then? Adnan (talk) 17:23, 2 July 2015 (UTC)
 * oh ok true, definitely was looking beyond now and it was early for this you are right . Thank you Adnan (talk) 17:36, 2 July 2015 (UTC)

Matěj Vydra Career stats
Hello GS, could you please remove the Matěj Vydra section as it's all unsourced. I don't want to fall foul of 3RR. Thanks, JMHamo (talk) 20:10, 2 July 2015 (UTC)

Sock
Hi, FYI is avoiding their block; see. Thanks, Mattythewhite (talk) 08:07, 3 July 2015 (UTC)

Bradford squad numbers
Hi, I changed the number for Josh Morris as you can see he's wearing number 4 here: http://www.bradfordcityfc.co.uk/news/article/morris-2512097.aspx Other players (McArdle, Clarke) are pictured wearing theirs on the website so it must be his squad number and not just a training number, unless you want to remove all squad numbers for all players until the season starts, which would be fair enough.Eng66 (talk) 13:46, 3 July 2015 (UTC)

In that case why not remove all the squad numbers then? Because we also can't just assume that Clarke and McArdle will have the same squad numbers either, despite wearing them in the pictures?Eng66 (talk) 15:56, 3 July 2015 (UTC)

So we're "assuming" that they'll keep the same squad number?Eng66 (talk) 16:45, 3 July 2015 (UTC)

There is no indication that certain players have kept the same number. However there is an indication that Morris will have number 4, as other players pictured are wearing the same squad number that they did last year. If we cant trust that that is his number, we should remove all numbers until we have any indication that all players will keep their numbers.Eng66 (talk) 17:14, 3 July 2015 (UTC)

The picture of him with a number 4 shirt is as good an indication as we are going to get that that is his squad number. But if you want to wait until the first league game of the season before we add it then that's up to you.Eng66 (talk) 17:28, 3 July 2015 (UTC)

Why are we trusting the pictures of the older players but not the new ones? If we can't trust that his number is 4 then we also surely can't trust that Clarke's will be 10 etc.Eng66 (talk) 17:34, 3 July 2015 (UTC)

If you're wanting to play it by the book, which you are, you'd need the aforementioned official squad number list for this season as a source. Otherwise we are still just assuming that the established squad numbers will be used again this season, with no changes.Eng66 (talk) 19:32, 3 July 2015 (UTC)

Aron Rodríguez
Why did you delete Aron Rodríguez? Inappropriate? Blatant hoax? Just because a few people decided to add stupid things to it, which I removed, doesn't mean it's a "hoax" (how that can even be a term here, I don't know). But if that's what it takes for pages to be deleted, you better go remove Carlos Bacca's page too, as he was apparent;y from some random English town a few weeks ago. The sources I submitted were what I could find from the first few pages of Wikipedia. I don't have 24 hours a day to search for sources, I have a job to go to and a life to enjoy. — Preceding unsigned comment added by OkayLito (talk • contribs)
 * Please tell the story behind this? Who is Aron Rodriguez? Is it you? Kivo (talk) 22:04, 3 July 2015 (UTC)

How is it clear and blatantly a hoax? You've literally not said one single reason why. And what reason would I make a hoax page? It's a page about a real person, everything there is factual. Whether it's worthy of a Wikipedia page is questionable, but it's most certainly not a hoax. I wouldn't mind the page being deleted if the reason was that the person doesn't need a Wikipedia page, but the fact you're calling it a hoax is beyond laughable. — Preceding unsigned comment added by OkayLito (talk • contribs) 17:36, 3 July 2015 (UTC)

You're talking to him. Proof enough? — Preceding unsigned comment added by OkayLito (talk • contribs) 19:24, 3 July 2015 (UTC)

So? It's not against the rules and all the information is correct and true that I added. I can confirm I have not signed for an Omani club, that information is incorrect, but I didn't add that. — Preceding unsigned comment added by OkayLito (talk • contribs) 21:56, 4 July 2015 (UTC)

User:Tozzi de Camargo 10
Hi GS, how are you?

The user mentioned above has two problems. The first one: he's a sockpuppet of User:Tozzi de camargo, blocked as a vandalism-only account. Second: he's doing the same errors as his first user, including wrong apps in box, despite being warned.

Can you please take care of this?

Thanks, MYS  77  ✉ 03:14, 5 July 2015 (UTC)

Advice?
Hi, would it be possible to get some advice from you? I seem to be struggling with my edits and understanding of how to help on wikipedia. If not thats OK. Paul   Bradbury  17:43, 5 July 2015 (UTC)

Hello
I removed international goals from Andros Townsend due to the consensus this but there is an editor Tmol42 keeps putting them back insisting there isn't any consensus by taking this as on going discussion about it, I just followed consensus but he is insisting there isn't any so can you take a look at this please ? should I revert him and put 3RR warning ? or no he is right ? thank you. Adnan (talk) 18:39, 6 July 2015 (UTC)
 * ok :) Adnan (talk) 15:23, 7 July 2015 (UTC)

Pitchero
Hello GS; how is Pitchero regarded as far as reliability as a source is concerned? Thanks. Eagleash (talk) 19:36, 7 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Thanks. Eagleash (talk) 09:48, 8 July 2015 (UTC)

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PabloOsvaldo17
Hi. You have previously blocked as being sockpuppet of. Now I have had an issue with doing this, which is same as PelleLong did (PelleLong also he kept moving the page). It seems like both accounts focuses on editing BLPs and even though I cant put my finger on an exact reason, and I dont want to accuse people of being socks, I just get the feeling it is the same person. Bandau Spallet seems to have some experience if you look at his first couple of edits. I just wanted to inform you since you blocked PelleLong, in case you want to take a look at it because I am not sure. <i style="font-family:Sans-serif"><b style="color:blue">Qed</b><b style="color:red">237</b>&#160;<b style="color:green">(talk)</b></i> 16:11, 8 July 2015 (UTC)

Good spot Qed, now blocked from a CU check. JMHamo (talk) 20:38, 8 July 2015 (UTC)

Mohamed Coulibaly 'mistake'
I got this bit of information from Football:All the Transfers on footballdatabase.eu. Cdenniff1 (talk) 15:24, 9 July 2015 (UTC)

You may be interested
in the re-opening of Sockpuppet investigations/PabloOsvaldo17. cheers, Struway2 (talk) 07:36, 11 July 2015 (UTC)

Format
Regarding, a few question:
 * Why remove alt which - in case of an image - would help the people who can't see the image?
 * Why add image_size which takes only fixes sizes which is discouraged?
 * I wish her a long life, but why not keep the death parameters for someone adding later? I have been in the unfornuate position of having to add the death of a person, - it's bad enough without having to look up parameters.

Otherwise: thank you, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:12, 11 July 2015 (UTC)


 * You answered on my talk what I could have told myself. If image_size is considered a standard parameter I will eventually question that on the template talk, because otherwise I learn that fixed image sizes don't serve different browser settings. - You didn't answer why you would keep image but not alt and death parameters. All are not used now but handy when they will be used, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:31, 11 July 2015 (UTC)

Greek IP
He continues with his copyvio infringements (storylines from internet articles copied verbatim) and POV galore, now with this IP (please see here https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/109.242.146.62).

Happy Saturday --84.90.219.128 (talk) 19:14, 11 July 2015 (UTC)

Incomplete DYK nomination
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DYK review
Noting here that I updated my comment on your DYK nomination a bit. Just one sentence that I have questions about. Cheers! Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 12:16, 12 July 2015 (UTC)

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Sardar Abdul Qayyum
A redirect for a relevant person is nonsense. Politik (talk) 12:52, 12 July 2015 (UTC)

Overkill cat(s)
Hi there GS,

seeing that no action is being taken regarding this (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Football#2013_FIFA_U-20_World_Cup_players, maybe the CfD procedures have already been undertaken, I am not aware), specifically no note in the page of the creator of the cat, is it going to be "iced" or not? I'm confused...

Happy start of week --84.90.219.128 (talk) 21:16, 12 July 2015 (UTC)


 * Gotcha! I was not implying it was your responsibility of course, I was merely seeking for wiki-guidance. --84.90.219.128 (talk) 18:42, 13 July 2015 (UTC)

FC Astana
Hi, User: ChelseaFunNumberOne recently moved FC Astana to Astana F.C. incorrectly without explanation and I moved the page back but I can not move everything, for example Category:FC Astana will not move back. Could you please take a look at this editor as he seems to have moved a lot of similar articles and move everything back? In England clubs have F.C. (which I think is reason for his move since he has English username) but this is not the case for many other clubs in the rest of the world. <i style="font-family:Sans-serif"><b style="color:blue">Qed</b><b style="color:red">237</b>&#160;<b style="color:green">(talk)</b></i> 23:11, 12 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Thank you, but I can not see that the articles has been moved back. For example Category:Astana F.C.. <i style="font-family:Sans-serif"><b style="color:blue">Qed</b><b style="color:red">237</b>&#160;<b style="color:green">(talk)</b></i> 11:55, 13 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Okay thank you. I am currently looking through the articles and I will take a look if something was missed. Thank you very much. <i style="font-family:Sans-serif"><b style="color:blue">Qed</b><b style="color:red">237</b>&#160;<b style="color:green">(talk)</b></i> 12:21, 13 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Just as a note I am mega confused about the talkpages why Talk:FC Astana (the real article name) is a redirect to Talk:Astana-1964 F.C. and Talk:Astana F.C. is also a redirect to that talkpage. <i style="font-family:Sans-serif"><b style="color:blue">Qed</b><b style="color:red">237</b>&#160;<b style="color:green">(talk)</b></i> 12:26, 13 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Looking at FC Astana-1964 is seems to be a different club not to be confused with FC Astana. <i style="font-family:Sans-serif"><b style="color:blue">Qed</b><b style="color:red">237</b>&#160;<b style="color:green">(talk)</b></i> 12:32, 13 July 2015 (UTC)
 * I think everything has been fixed now. Once again, thank you very much. <i style="font-family:Sans-serif"><b style="color:blue">Qed</b><b style="color:red">237</b>&#160;<b style="color:green">(talk)</b></i> 12:42, 13 July 2015 (UTC)

Matěj Vydra
Hello GS, Matěj Vydra - IP is removing club appearances and goals because I removed the unreferenced career stats. Better to protect the page or warn the IP? JMHamo (talk) 17:52, 13 July 2015 (UTC)

Creation ban
Hi, I am not sure if I have asked this before, but I would like to know if someones ability to create articles can be removed? There is one user I found that has had almost all of his creations to AfD and he clearly can not create notable articles. If so, is ANI the best way to go? <i style="font-family:Sans-serif"><b style="color:blue">Qed</b><b style="color:red">237</b>&#160;<b style="color:green">(talk)</b></i> 12:34, 14 July 2015 (UTC)

Inter Milan
Hi, I see the move request has been closed. I stated during the discussion that season articles should be renamed to follow the same naming structure as the main article. Usually i would just move them however Im aware some people will see as controversial. How do you block RM request them. Blethering  Scot  18:34, 15 July 2015 (UTC)
 * If you don't think it's controversial I will just move them by hand and see what happens. Blethering  Scot  18:46, 15 July 2015 (UTC)
 * I am one of those supporting the move to F.C. Internazionale Milano but now that the consensus is "no move" I would not stand in the way of moving the season articles. They should be same name as the "main article". <i style="font-family:Sans-serif"><b style="color:blue">Qed</b><b style="color:red">237</b>&#160;<b style="color:green">(talk)</b></i> 18:49, 15 July 2015 (UTC)
 * I started to move then had a thought. Should it be F.C. Inter Milan season or just Inter Milan season. Blethering   Scot  18:52, 15 July 2015 (UTC)
 * I would say just Inter Milan (no F.C.) because article is at only Inter Milan. So it would be "2015–16 Inter Milan season" and so on. <i style="font-family:Sans-serif"><b style="color:blue">Qed</b><b style="color:red">237</b>&#160;<b style="color:green">(talk)</b></i> 18:54, 15 July 2015 (UTC)
 * - agree with Qed237's suggested naming format - and I'm saying all this also as a supporter of a move back to F.C. Internazionale Milano! GiantSnowman 18:55, 15 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Yeah thats what i was thinking. Thanks, Blethering   Scot  18:57, 15 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Cant move 2013–14 F.C. Internazionale Milano season says i need an admin as already exists. Blethering  Scot  19:08, 15 July 2015 (UTC)
 * same with 2007–08 F.C. Internazionale Milano season. Blethering  Scot  19:23, 15 July 2015 (UTC)
 * and 1962–63 F.C. Inter Milan season. Blethering  Scot  19:38, 15 July 2015 (UTC)
 * and ofc giant. is it one of the Wikipedia policy the season name must match the club name? I hope you can clarify this for me because if it is not, you shouldn't have moved the article when the request move had 3 comments two of them oppose the moving :) so hope you clarify this for me . thank you Adnan (talk) 05:08, 16 July 2015 (UTC)

I have moved those three articles. it is WP:COMMONSENSE for the sub-articles match the name format of the parent article. GiantSnowman 12:15, 16 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Ok thank you, It is true , more sensible to match the name format of the parent article ,moving is fine with me just found it different from what they did last time when someone opened a moving request and they waited a week and voted about it , just trying to figure out more how these polices work. but this WP:COMMONSENSE is reallly tricky one because what could be sensible for someone could be not for someone's else and basically it is an excuse for anyone to ignore any rule i guess anyway thank you my friend .Adnan (talk) 16:32, 16 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Two points. I wasn't aware there was a move request outstanding, however this was only for one page and I would still of moved the others. There is no consensus for the main page to be called F.C. Internazionale Milano therefore there is no consensus for the sub pages to be named that. We have to be consistent with page naming. If anyone felt the RM was closed inappropriately (please note it wasn't me) then they should raise that there. I think however it is safe to say the RM would of been successful as it is not a controversial move. Blethering  Scot  15:17, 17 July 2015 (UTC)

Categories
From this diff here (https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Mat%C3%ADas_Fern%C3%A1ndez&diff=665788490&oldid=665705744), I see that it is possible to insert a category in a proper order and still use HotCat. Don't worry, I won't bother you asking this favour again.

Regards --84.90.219.128 (talk) 18:41, 15 July 2015 (UTC)


 * Like I said, don't worry, i'll just relocate them (and ref honours when I can find sources, which 99,99999999999999 of the time is up for grabs for anyone, merely by doubling the SOCCERWAY.com ref to the honours section). If I'm asking such a big deal nevermind, don't want to be a wiki-burden. --84.90.219.128 (talk) 18:58, 15 July 2015 (UTC)

And to finish this discussion: yes, there is no preset order like you say, there is order by leagues, alphabetical order, etc. The order you are proposing, however, is none, with all due respect (whatever cat is created last goes to the bottom). --84.90.219.128 (talk) 20:13, 15 July 2015 (UTC)

Sorry
I apologise for going off at you earlier. I misunderstood what you were saying and definitely overreacted. I'm not having a good time editing here any more, and I think it may be time for a Wikibreak. – PeeJay 18:58, 15 July 2015 (UTC)

TPS: make that two PJ, make that two... I hear you! --84.90.219.128 (talk) 19:02, 15 July 2015 (UTC)

Discussion regarding national team badges
You might want to join in on this conversation. – Michael (talk) 06:48, 16 July 2015 (UTC)

Kelechi Iheanacho (footballer, born 1996)
Hello GS, could you please unSALT Kelechi Iheanacho (footballer, born 1996) and redirect it to Kelechi Iheanacho, then delete Kelechi Iheanacho (footballer born 1996). Thanks, JMHamo (talk) 10:46, 16 July 2015 (UTC)

Something weird
Hi, something weird happened. Even though it says I am logged in, my IP showed up when editing. Could you remove my IP in this diff? Thank you. <i style="font-family:Sans-serif"><b style="color:blue">Qed</b><b style="color:red">237</b>&#160;<b style="color:green">(talk)</b></i> 19:17, 16 July 2015 (UTC)

Jamaal Smith
I grasp that autobiographies are supposed to be impartial, but all the points I've brought up are factual. You've asked me to cite the sources and I followed through and cited the sources. I haven't made comments on how great I am or added subjective words such as "Smith performed admirably in a 2-0 loss", I've simply stated that I participated in my 2-0 loss vs. Bolivia and following that I've added a source. I didn't state that I was a great importance for winning national championships with York. I simply stated that I was a member of the team that won the title and I cited them and backed this up. If someone is going to independently create a page about me, a Wikipedia page is also a form of social media whether we like it or not and it's something that will be a representation of me from now until the end of the Internet... If someone like I said is going to make a page about me, I'd prefer it be done properly explaining my story clearly as opposed to slopping a few lines on as well as inaccuracies about my appearances with the clubs I've played for.

Anyways. I've asked for citations, so I'll copy and paste the ones that I put down before as it appears I need a guide to explain the facts of my football career. I'm not trying to give you an attitude, but this is frustrating as I don't at all feel like this page represents my career.

Also, I'd like for there to be a picture added to my page. I've attempted to do this to no avail so it would be appreciated if one were provided. Specifically I wanted to know if this picture could be added (link attached). It's me during the starting lineups of my 2012 World Cup qualifying match with Guyana in El Salvador, my 2nd international cap. http://i.ytimg.com/vi/L0shVGXAdGM/maxresdefault.jpg

Other Links.. http://en.cis-sic.ca/championships/msoc/2010-11/boxscore/20101114_lq8m.xml http://www.oua.ca/sports/msoc/2008-09/releases/3493.html http://wired868.com/2013/08/07/caledonia-falls-to-toluca-but-grabs-away-goal-in-mexico-city/ http://www.okzhetpes.kz/rus/news/?cid=0&rid=632 http://www.okzhetpes.kz/rus/news/?cid=0&rid=651 http://www.lostiempos.com/diario/actualidad/deportes/20120816/bolivia-vence-2-a-0-a-guyana-en-el-debut-de_182278_385838.html http://www.stabroeknews.com/2012/sports/11/17/golden-jaguars-lose-to-spice-boyz/ — Preceding unsigned comment added by OmaSmi21 (talk • contribs) 05:22, 17 July 2015 (UTC)

MOS Flag advice
I noted you didn't offer comment at MOS Flag and I'm curious on your opinion. Im aware I'm a bit (actually a lot) gungho on certain issues on here, but it is something I feel strongly on. As I respect you i would appreciate your opinion, obviously we have the guidelines and I just don't feel as a project it should be ignored. Blethering  Scot  15:25, 17 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Surprised thought you would of had an opinion. I think a lot of people think articles should be bright and colourful and need flags to aid understanding. When really actual content and prose are what people come here for. Blethering  Scot  15:54, 17 July 2015 (UTC)

Patrick Roberts
Hello GS, could you please semi-protect Patrick Roberts.. A lot of IP vandalism since he moved to Manchester City. Thanks, JMHamo (talk) 09:46, 19 July 2015 (UTC)

Today's articles for improvement – discussion about changing project processes



 * Hello :
 * A discussion is occurring at Change project processes regarding potential changes to the Today's articles for improvement Wikiproject. Your input is welcomed at the discussion.

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Admin Rights
Hi, I'm just being curious but when were you granted admin privileges if I may ask? <b style="font-family:kartika"><b style="color:green">Tea</b><b style="color:blue">Lover</b><b style="color:red">1996</b> (talk) </b> 12:57, 19 July 2015 (UTC)
 * GS became an admin on 4 February 2012. see here. Blethering  Scot  18:17, 19 July 2015 (UTC)

Adi iyer92
Hello GS, Some advice please, could you please take a look at the Talk page of. He's admitted to having a second account but can't remember what it was. What should be done in this situation? Thanks, JMHamo (talk) 12:07, 20 July 2015 (UTC)

Cristian cueva
Cristian cueva plays for Toluca not for Alianza Lima Chrisrobinson2699 (talk) 13:07, 20 July 2015 (UTC)

Regarding an IP block
Hi, I noticed that you blocked IP for vandalism. I am seeing another IP address, displaying the same editing behaviour on the same football related Articles. I do not like to raise this, but I believe that this may be the same user, evading the block. I have tried to engage the IP user in discussion on the edits, to no avail. Regards, - Ryk72 'c.s.n.s.' 13:44, 20 July 2015 (UTC)

User:176.86.10.8
Hi GS, how are you?

The user mentioned above is making disruptive edits related to squad sections (i.e. adding numbers without official confirmation). I've already warned him(her), but it seems that (s)he can't "listen" at all.

Can you take care of this?

Thank you, MYS  77  ✉ 16:34, 20 July 2015 (UTC)

Requested move AZ Alkmaar
Hi, there is a move request at Talk:AZ Alkmaar that you might be interested in. <i style="font-family:Sans-serif"><b style="color:blue">Qed</b><b style="color:red">237</b>&#160;<b style="color:green">(talk)</b></i> 11:41, 21 July 2015 (UTC)

In case you're interested
I reported the latest one of these. cheers, Struway2 (talk) 15:43, 22 July 2015 (UTC)

Brendan Rodgers
1. Word "manager" repeated twice - sign of poor sentence structure.

2. "Northern Ireland" doesn't have a link, but is generally supposed to.

3. An odd way to phrase a football manager starting sentence. Look at Pep Guardiola, for example. O l J a 21:36, 22 July 2015 (UTC)

User:GiantSnowman/Jack Harper
Hello GS, just to let you know that when I did a Google search for Jack Harper, your draft User:GiantSnowman/Jack Harper was included in the search results. Isn't there a way to exclude draft articles from being indexed by Search engines? You may want to look in to that. Thanks! JMHamo (talk) 11:19, 23 July 2015 (UTC)

Bot request
Did I do it right GS (my request here https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Bot_requests)? If not, which is the due field please?

By the way, thanks for the WP:FOOTY input, regards --84.90.219.128 (talk) 16:14, 23 July 2015 (UTC)


 * Done. --84.90.219.128 (talk) 20:29, 23 July 2015 (UTC)

DYK for Arne Kotte
Materialscientist (talk) 01:51, 25 July 2015 (UTC)

Football pages
I'm getting tired of you and your admin buddies taking away my edits. What source should I add to add goals to someone's record? That I watched the game? That guy Zsinj really made me mad last time he blocked me for adding these edits. EdmondCA (talk) 16:58, 25 July 2015 (UTC)

I wasn't using an account when I got blocked. It displayed my IP address instead. I was adding goals for cup games and European competitions, and he didn't like it. I appealed the decision, and he didn't get back to me, but it's whatever, I was just a bit ticked off at that. EdmondCA (talk) 17:08, 25 July 2015 (UTC)

Alright, thanks, what should I do if I'm unsure how many caps they have though? EdmondCA (talk) 17:15, 25 July 2015 (UTC)

Edit
Pavel cmovs is retained by mumbai city fc the announcement is done on week ago Rajas pitale (talk) 18:43, 25 July 2015 (UTC)

August Hermann
Please advise on why you removed valid, referenced, factual and relevant information from the August Hermann page. Several of your edits have validity, the deletion of other information do not. Please advise before I will have it added back in. Thank you. Ks03 (talk) 05:46, 26 July 2015 (UTC)

Anthonie Cornelis Oudemans
Dear Giant,

Once you put the tag refimprove on this article:

https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Anthonie_Cornelis_Oudemans&type=revision&diff=550688342&oldid=550686910


 * Are the references improved so that the tag can be removed?

Thanks, Hansmuller (talk) 09:23, 27 July 2015 (UTC)

What's in a name?
Hey, GS. Hope you're having a pleasant summer in the north of England. Can you please take a look at this Wikidata profile, and let me know what you think? It appears that the usual shennanigans about how "football" should be labeled are being played out within Wikidata now. . . .  Thanks. Dirtlawyer1 (talk) 21:33, 27 July 2015 (UTC)

Parma
Hi, I just spotted an editor moving Parma F.C. to S.S.D. Parma Calcio 1913, despite new existing Parma Calcio 1913. I had never seen the abbreviation S.S.D. before so tried to make some inevstigation and wonder if the Parma Calcio article should be moved to S.S.D.? I saw this and this but I can not find anything from the club themselves. <i style="font-family:Sans-serif"><b style="color:blue">Qed</b><b style="color:red">237</b>&#160;<b style="color:green">(talk)</b></i> 22:40, 28 July 2015 (UTC)

TAFI's List of articles



 * Hello GiantSnowman:


 * A discussion is occurring at the TAFI talk page regarding potential changes to the project's List of articles page. Your input is welcome at the discussion.

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2018 FIFA World Cup
What should I do about 2018 FIFA World Cup? IP range 180.234 keeps vandalising, but no action at WP:RPP and now other IP's started as well. Range block? <i style="font-family:Sans-serif"><b style="color:blue">Qed</b><b style="color:red">237</b>&#160;<b style="color:green">(talk)</b></i> 12:11, 31 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Where do I request a range block? <i style="font-family:Sans-serif"><b style="color:blue">Qed</b><b style="color:red">237</b>&#160;<b style="color:green">(talk)</b></i> 13:49, 31 July 2015 (UTC)


 * The vandalism from this 180.234.x.x range (of which Special:Contributions/180.234.24.29 was one example) includes both football & cricket-related subjects, and also other Indian subjects sch as Why This Kolaveri Di. - David Biddulph (talk) 14:00, 31 July 2015 (UTC)


 * Note also that this has been going on for many months; see Special:Contributions/180.234.40.94 for one example from April. - David Biddulph (talk) 14:20, 31 July 2015 (UTC)

Assistance
Regarding this issue where you have kindly commented (please see here https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Drmies#Page_move), I have further followed suit. Please "counter-attack" in the light of the new "evidence".

Happy wiki-break, cheers --84.90.219.128 (talk) 18:03, 31 July 2015 (UTC)

AEL FC Arena
Hello, please help me.. I have made great efforts to create a descent page of my favorite team .. The user KeepCalm99 despite my continuous warnings keeps reverting or changing without reason my posts.. without any reliable source, without anything!!! Last edit? AEL FC ARENA!!! HE RENAMED IT WITHOUT REASON TO "FC ARENA"... please help me — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tsobek (talk • contribs)

Contribution on jeremie lynch.
I don't think my information is incorrect but if you oppose to my contribution give me certain proofs that my information is wrong. I am a massive of fan of the F2 and know about them quite a lot. So what I would tell you is research about the contribution which you have deleted and tell me the parts of the content which you think is wrong. Eagerly waiting for your reply. Regards Mohammed Aman Mohammed aman5803 (talk) 16:51, 1 August 2015 (UTC)

Jake Speight
Thanks for the intervention on there. But that FA document shows he is a licensed agent though right?--EchetusXe 10:57, 2 August 2015 (UTC)

There was no need for you to intervene as has you have been told there you are wrong

Please both of you make sure your facts are correct please consult the FA. this player is not registered to any club at the minitute. Again the criminal conviction is spent and the detail sorounding the conviction are nearly from newspaper arrivals NOT facts

There is no need for this to be on there. Can you explain why it is your interest to edit this page with at all? Let alone with the wrong information — Preceding unsigned comment added by XVXI (talk • contribs) 11:13, 2 August 2015 (UTC)
 * Signing was announced on King's Lynn Town's official website. I don't know why you believe they are mistaken XVXI.--EchetusXe 11:24, 2 August 2015 (UTC)
 * you do not own the article. The criminal conviction is well-documented in multiple reliable sources and, given the effect it had on his career, it is valid to mention it in the article. You have not provided any policy-based arguments for its removal, other than stating you don't like it. GiantSnowman 11:39, 2 August 2015 (UTC)

The fact that it is now having a negative affect on his career after football the player has served his punishment and by law the conviction is spent so for that reason can and should be removed. What affect did it have on his career? Also the other details regarding the relationship and its details are not facts and nearly based on newspapers this should be on there either. Out of interest what is it to you what is said on there? Surely you have better things to do than lie on people's wiki page do you not have a life. You was told earlier not to take off facts but you did anyway which I have reported you for and if the non facts are not taken off we are prepared to take this as far as we can which ever way possible. Why did you feel the need to get involved in this? — Preceding unsigned comment added by XVXI (talk • contribs) 12:59, 2 August 2015 (UTC)

Greek nuisance
New IP found (please see here https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/91.140.64.186). Attentively --84.90.219.128 (talk) 21:31, 2 August 2015 (UTC)

Lubambo Musonda
Hi, what is your problem with the edit at the above mentioned page?--Spetsnaz1991 (talk) 12:48, 3 August 2015 (UTC)
 * Please enough with your reverts, otherwise it would be perceived as an edit war.--Spetsnaz1991 (talk) 12:59, 3 August 2015 (UTC)

Devante Cole
Hi I noticed you reverted my removal of the manchester city first team navbox from the Devante Cole article. The reason I removed it is he is not a member of the first team and not listed in the navbox so the navbox should not be on his page. I also removed it from several other players pages and included a transclusion check link and source on the template page. Do you think I'm wrong? I was just doing some article maintenance. Thanks Paul    Bradbury  09:37, 4 August 2015 (UTC)

Edit summaries
Hi, could you please remove some edit summaries at 2015–16 UEFA Europa League qualifying phase and play-off round. An angry IP used some not very appropriate words. <i style="font-family:Sans-serif"><b style="color:blue">Qed</b><b style="color:red">237</b>&#160;<b style="color:green">(talk)</b></i> 11:39, 4 August 2015 (UTC)
 * Thanks for hiding the edit summaries, now he has started making bad edits the talkpage for the same article so could you please hide those revisions also. It is the same editor as before on the article with a dynamic IP including
 * (blocked yesterday)
 * so do you think it is time to ask for a range block? <i style="font-family:Sans-serif"><b style="color:blue">Qed</b><b style="color:red">237</b>&#160;<b style="color:green">(talk)</b></i> 14:09, 4 August 2015 (UTC)
 * Okay, thank you. <i style="font-family:Sans-serif"><b style="color:blue">Qed</b><b style="color:red">237</b>&#160;<b style="color:green">(talk)</b></i> 15:59, 4 August 2015 (UTC)
 * User:Favonian has blocked 109.98.160.213 for 31 hours. The other IPs listed above haven't edited since mid-July. EdJohnston (talk) 16:28, 4 August 2015 (UTC)
 * The most recnt IP today, 109.98.160.129, has not been blocked. <i style="font-family:Sans-serif"><b style="color:blue">Qed</b><b style="color:red">237</b>&#160;<b style="color:green">(talk)</b></i> 16:58, 4 August 2015 (UTC)
 * ✅. GiantSnowman 17:22, 4 August 2015 (UTC)
 * Okay, thank you. <i style="font-family:Sans-serif"><b style="color:blue">Qed</b><b style="color:red">237</b>&#160;<b style="color:green">(talk)</b></i> 15:59, 4 August 2015 (UTC)
 * User:Favonian has blocked 109.98.160.213 for 31 hours. The other IPs listed above haven't edited since mid-July. EdJohnston (talk) 16:28, 4 August 2015 (UTC)
 * The most recnt IP today, 109.98.160.129, has not been blocked. <i style="font-family:Sans-serif"><b style="color:blue">Qed</b><b style="color:red">237</b>&#160;<b style="color:green">(talk)</b></i> 16:58, 4 August 2015 (UTC)
 * ✅. GiantSnowman 17:22, 4 August 2015 (UTC)

FC Spartaki Tskhinvali
From what I can see, FC Spartaki Tskhinvali has been renamed to only 'FC Tskhinvali' (in January 2015 according to the article). They have a new logo in the article and are known as 'FC Tskhinvali' at Soccerway while UEFA has them only as 'Tskhinvali' (for some reason they dont use FC for only that team?). Their own webpage http://www.fcspartak.ge/ seems to support 'FC Tskhinvali'. I can not move the page, admin is needed. Do you think we should move it and if so, can you do it? <i style="font-family:Sans-serif"><b style="color:blue">Qed</b><b style="color:red">237</b>&#160;<b style="color:green">(talk)</b></i> 00:38, 5 August 2015 (UTC)
 * Done, see this RM. <i style="font-family:Sans-serif"><b style="color:blue">Qed</b><b style="color:red">237</b>&#160;<b style="color:green">(talk)</b></i> 11:30, 5 August 2015 (UTC)

Jake Speight
GiantSnowman I am a web designer and work for one of the subjects companies and know 100% facts of his career and personal life. I am however new to editing and apologies for any offence caused. If he is in fact not regsitered with the FA as a player with any club and why is it not possible to delete the things that are not facts(just asking) also he is registered with the FA as an agent as you was previously told by another user this is fact. I would never edit anything that could be proved as fact. again sorry if we got off on the wrong foot mainly my fault now i understand the rules more and that i have to go through you to edit i will do from nowXVXI (talk) — Preceding unsigned comment added by XVXI (talk • contribs) 08:20, 5 August 2015 (UTC)

Okaro White
Sorry, I had no idea the editor was banned. His edit looked constructive to me. It might be useful to mention in the edit summary next time. ~ EDDY  ( talk / contribs ) ~ 15:49, 5 August 2015 (UTC)
 * You can specify if you undo the edit instead of pressing the rollback button. No big deal though. ~ EDDY  ( talk / contribs ) ~ 16:11, 5 August 2015 (UTC)

Citation needed tag or removal?
Hi GS, hope you are having a nice summer! Wanted to ask you something, the subject is discussed here: Talk:KF Tirana in European football. See also edit-history of the article. Some editor added a long list of international friendly games. I got interested in it, but soon I found out some inconsistences such as Tirana playing Red Star Belgrade in 1938 (Red Star only got formed in 1945). Then I noticed the entire section is unsourced, and I blanked the section. I was challenged with the excuse that sources will be added in future. A third editor intervened and is asking me to have good faith and give the benefit of the doubt, but I cant see how to ignore Verifiability and cope with them. Perhaps they would like me to leave the list and just add "citation needed" tag, but seems they are asking too much. Am I doing right by erasing the entire list? FkpCascais (talk) 18:04, 5 August 2015 (UTC)
 * Just to clarify: I am asking to AGF newer matches (post 1970), but I'm not going to oppose wp:v under any circumstance. PoshteMorriKuq (talk) 19:08, 5 August 2015 (UTC)

Georgios Fotakis
Hello GS, i removed the template Veria FC from the page of Georgios Fotakis, because the player has not signed yet in any club! He solved his contract with Panetolikos FC in the 1st of July 2015, since then he is unattached.. The user PanosBonJovi writes : "On 25 June 2015, Fotakis made AN ORAL agreement with the greek club Veria".. If this rumor can be taken from wiki as a fact then what can i say.. you are right that you reverted my edits.. the player though is currently free agent.. i can prove it by many greek and foreign sites. Thanx anyway. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tsobek (talk • contribs)

TAFI List of articles purge, part II



 * Hello GiantSnowman:


 * A discussion is occurring at the TAFI talk page regarding the removal of entries from the project's List of articles page. Your input is welcome at the discussion.

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My apologies.
I apologise for adding the link. I didn't realise that you chose not to add it for a reason. The GRVO fLigh tning (talk)	 11:24, 9 August 2015 (UTC)

That's an interesting question
and one that crossed my mind earlier today. When it came up before, I was trying to be too clever. Because it kept nearly-but-not-quite doing what I wanted it to, I gave up and promptly forgot about it. I'll have another look at doing it more simply, today or more likely tomorrow, and if nothing comes of it you'd do as well raising it again at WT:FOOTY or wherever and getting someone who knows what they're doing. Sorry for any irritation caused. cheers, Struway2 (talk) 12:30, 9 August 2015 (UTC)


 * Right, let's try again with the non-clever version.

displays as

id is what it's called at Soccerbase, and putting the actual season (or the first year thereof) is both more intuitive for the user and not dependent on the current Soccerbase url structure. The player id and season can just be entered as the first and second parameters, so

should also display similarly:

If you're using the template on the player's own page, which will generally be the case, you don't need the name parameter just to get rid of any bracketed disambiguator: you don't with the plain Soccerbase template either any more, since this edit last November.

Try it. What I may see as bleedinobvious or not see at all, a fresh set of eyes will query. cheers, Struway2 (talk) 16:37, 9 August 2015 (UTC)


 * Please see Soccerbase season, as implemented at Paul Robinson (footballer, born December 1978). cheers, Struway2 (talk) 11:29, 10 August 2015 (UTC)

Victorien Angban (footballer, born 1996)
Hello GS, could you please move Victorien Angban (footballer, born 1996) to just Victorien Angban as the extra disambig is not required. Thanks, JMHamo (talk) 12:52, 9 August 2015 (UTC)

Jessy Reindorf
He played just minutes ago for Speranta against Sherif in Moldovan championship.i'm not going to add here on wikipedia some rubish links regarding this.but you will find out soon that i was right .good luck. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kolya77 (talk • contribs) 17:23, 9 August 2015 (UTC)

Greek IP (verbatim) nuisance
Here is the new address (https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Contributions/109.242.151.113&target=109.242.151.113), regards --84.90.219.128 (talk) 22:20, 9 August 2015 (UTC)


 * And another (here https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/109.242.7.116)! --84.90.219.128 (talk) 01:02, 10 August 2015 (UTC)

Could you delete a redirect to make place for a move
Here. You may delete this message afterwards. Thank you-Koppapa (talk) 15:38, 10 August 2015 (UTC)

New account / Others
Hi there GS,

I think it's best, now that the aggravation has subsided (the Benfica troll), to have myself a new account. Seeing that you welcomed me first, nine years ago (time flies), two questions: 1 - any name suggestions? 2 - is it possible to have the display from the old account moved to the new one (not very likely I wager, since it has been vanished)?

Kind regards, thanks in advance --84.90.219.128 (talk) 18:38, 11 August 2015 (UTC)


 * A small favour, if you can, and seeing it will only take you a minute or two (few players): I have just asked someone created the category "C.D. Mafra players", and added it in all of the players I edit/have edited (26 in total, seen here https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:C.D._Mafra_players). Can you please add the rest automatically?

Thanks in advance, keep it up --84.90.219.128 (talk) 01:36, 12 August 2015 (UTC)


 * Can you least show me how to do it automatically? --84.90.219.128 (talk) 10:03, 12 August 2015 (UTC)

Thanks. --84.90.219.128 (talk) 10:52, 12 August 2015 (UTC)

Jessy Reindorf Again.
Man are you serious ? Reliable source ? You did not find one ? On references (Jessy Reindorf page) 1.http://www.national-football-teams.com/player/51118/Jessy_Reindorf.html 2. http://int.soccerway.com/players/jessy-yapo-reindolf/289431/

Excuse me,but this is not enough for you ?? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kolya77 (talk • contribs) 17:01, 12 August 2015 (UTC)

Page protection
Hello. Could you semi Scott Allan for a bit, please. After weeks of him moving to Rangers he now seems to be going to Celtic and it's starting to get a bit lively. thanks, Struway2 (talk) 17:49, 13 August 2015 (UTC)
 * Not sure you should react that quickly, people might start to expect it... thanks, Struway2 (talk) 17:52, 13 August 2015 (UTC)

Zou Feddal
You mean his nickname? He was known as only Zou in the beginning of his career, all sources included in the article tell us this. And Levante's official website names him as "Zou Feddal" in its squad list. If there's another thing I've done wrong, can you please point me out? Thanks, MYS  77  ✉ 18:01, 13 August 2015 (UTC)
 * Precisely, the refs #1, 3, 4 (inside it), 5, 8 and 9 name him as "Zou". MYS  77  ✉ 18:02, 13 August 2015 (UTC)


 * Already restored that. I thought the format made no difference in the view. And I'm not so sure I should start a RM, because he was known as "Zou" in the beginning of his career, he's still known as "Zou Feddal" in Spain but not in Italy nor in Morocco. MYS  77  ✉ 18:24, 13 August 2015 (UTC)

Facepalm...
Gotta love when an anonymous editor accuses an admin with almost a decade of editing service, 182,000+ edits and 3+ years as an admin, of vandalizing... -_- Keep up the good work! -- Zackmann08 (Talk to me/What I been doing) 20:00, 13 August 2015 (UTC)

Greek IP
Here is the new address I found (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/91.140.93.168), best --84.90.219.128 (talk) 13:48, 14 August 2015 (UTC)

Deletion
How about instead of deleting factual things you add a reference yourself for something as obvious as a player winning the league? Salty1984 (talk) 21:00, 15 August 2015 (UTC)

Luca Gasparotto
Hi GiantSnowman. I saw that you are away, but I wanted to drop you a courtesy note to let you know that I unsalted Luca Gasparotto. You can see the explanation at my User talk page. Thank you. — Malik Shabazz Talk/Stalk 00:06, 16 August 2015 (UTC)

Mistake by you.
I was just updating what is correct that's all. I am a volunteer at Buxton FC so I know who is in the team and where they have previously been before. Philip Buxton Fc. (talk) 02:28, 18 August 2015 (UTC)

El Khayati
Leave El Khayati alone hes a winger NOT A STRIKER — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jack28311 (talk • contribs) 17:06, 19 August 2015 (UTC)

Jamaal Smith
Hello thanks for the edits you've provided. I grasp your message that you're stating my proof isn't adequate enough for my appearances because it's in a different language regarding Kazakhstan. What I want as a solution is to just place blanks next to my Okzhetpes appearances and goals. Simply put, me having made one appearance with that squad is NOT accurate. Also, I've been struggling to manage putting a photo onto my profile despite you sending that link. I don't understand it and I've tried to place the picture there. Your help would be appreciated. — Preceding unsigned comment added by OmaSmi21 (talk • contribs) 16:25, 23 August 2015 (UTC)

Anthonie Cornelis Oudemans
Dear Giant,

You didn't notice my change some time ago giving a global reference at the start of this article. Your query for references had been answered, so the tag can be removed, ok? Regards, Hansmuller (talk) 19:15, 23 August 2015 (UTC)

advice to recreate a deleted page
Hi Giantsnowman, I hope you had a fun vacation -hopefully somewhere warm with a lot of sun 😂 cause your name sounds like u need some heat before the winter 😂😂😂 Anyways, I think I might need your attention bro  on the recreat of a page that was deleted,  which you participated in the discussion for deletion at the time. I am trying to recreate the deleted Kobort Koffa. Learned that you request deletion to the page because the player's club is in the 3rd level of the Danish league ( therefore making him not notabe), however, given all facts, the Danish 3rd level of football is higher then the American 3rd level (by fifa ranking), and yet 83 percent of players playing in the USL which is the 3rd tie of football in the USA have a wiki page. You can research that if need be... But the main reason i recommend a recreat of the page is, 1. the player is an african (from liberia) and given his country's low fifa ranking, players from the said country playing in leagues at that level aborad are monitored nationally by thier locals - google search engine has proven that the player is widely googled a few thousand times so far. And the liberian national team usually call players on national duties from those league, proving nobiity to them. I think what dosn't prove nobility in one sense, could in another (given the heritage) therefore could pass at GMT or some point. Also, the player has moved to a biger ( according to news here in Denmaark). Please let me know your advice on the matter. As an experience wiki adm., your take on the matter would prove essential. I spoke to Drmies on the matter and he thinks the article should be rewritten but recommends your advice... Also given some of the explanations made above and facts, I think the player could pass WP:GNG or WP:FOOTY somehow. But again, I'm only new l, that's where I would need your expertise. Look forward to your soonest response as to how or when the page shoud be recreated. cheers Dksport2015 (talk) 07:30, 24 August 2015 (UTC)

Thanks. But if you read the topics i outlined in my message to you, you may understand that the player may pass based on the fact that he draws vast interrest from google searcher, and people in his native homeland. Please advic futher, dont want to recreat if the matter is not fully reviewed. Thanks for your inputDksport2015 (talk) 14:40, 24 August 2015 (UTC)

Riyad Mahrez
Why did you remove the Football League championship from Honours? he was part of the squad that won the title. Jimmy Skitz's Answer Machine 16:38, 24 August 2015 (UTC)

Stealing articles
i'm so sorry for the mess. i just wondering why you did not publish the articles. you can have it back. my apology.

Maybe maybe Rafik Zekhnini semi-protected
Hello, Rafik Zekhnini is being a case for vandalism plenty of times the last couple of days. Any way you can make the page semi-protected? Thank you in advance // Psemmler (talk) 15:03, 25 August 2015 (UTC)

Riyad Mahrez
Well, if you revert edits made by editors like me then certainly we will be demoralised. You say every goal should not be included. But what's the point having the article if you want to keep it as a stub and not update with change taking place. I know you are an administrator and I have experienced such incidents before but I think you should not revert those edits because as his goals are crucial for the points his team has received and at the moment he is the top score of bpl. For example, if it was Diego Costa in this case scoring in every games, these reverts would not have taken place as he is a striker. I try to help Wikipedia but due to these incidents I feel like quitting and retire. NextGenSam619t@lk 17:30, 25 August 2015 (UTC)

Okina
Please stop removing the okina from Henry Hoolulu's name. It doesn't matter what the article title says. There has been established consensus to value orthographical correctness of the Hawaiian language and on Hawaii related articles for the use okina in the body of the articles even if the title does not have okinas. Liliuokalani and Kingdom of Hawaii are examples of this. The same was accepted in a good article I created John William Pitt Kinau. --KAVEBEAR (talk) 12:12, 27 August 2015 (UTC)
 * Manual of Style/Hawaii-related articles.--KAVEBEAR (talk) 15:14, 27 August 2015 (UTC)
 * With all due respect, I am going to have to strongly disagree. There are clear examples Liliuokalani, Kingdom of Hawaii and John William Pitt Kinau and everyone of the Hawaiian Islands (Kauai, Oahu, Molokai, etc) for example and this has been an accepted consensus for Hawaii-related articles on Wikipedia where we can have article which do not use okina in the title but do so in the article body. Is there even a rule that mandates that the name spelling has to always match the article title? I don't believe the okina should be added to the title of this article because I believe it impedes searchability of the title. The request move shouldn't have any effect on what the title of the article says. Can we seek a third opinion or RfC or some other form of arbitration to resolve this?--KAVEBEAR (talk) 19:49, 27 August 2015 (UTC)
 * It's more than that. And yes, I will wait but again a result of no move will not sway my opinion. Consensus exist for this "sloppiness" if it means proper Hawaiian orthography in names of Hawaiian place names or individuals.--KAVEBEAR (talk) 17:11, 28 August 2015 (UTC)

Albania statistics
I opened a discussion here on the Statistics of Albania's national team, and would love to hear your comments. Please look at it at your convenience, as I would appreciate your thoughts. Maestro Spinelloccio (talk) 15:43, 27 August 2015 (UTC)

Simone Zaza
I saw you deleted the entire honours section at Simone Zaza because it was not referenced. Although I know you are an experienced editor who is very good, can I recommend you start tagging some of these as, especially if you know that the information is valid. And then if no one comes along and and adds a reference then later it can be deleted. But just deleting valuable information like that, it adds more work for other editors who have to add info all over again in addition to getting correct sources. Thanks.--Shreerajtheauthor (talk) 20:21, 27 August 2015 (UTC)

Greek IP (verbatim) nuisance
New IP I found here (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/91.140.77.71). Cheers --84.90.219.128 (talk) 03:01, 28 August 2015 (UTC)


 * And another (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/109.242.137.2)!! --84.90.219.128 (talk) 03:02, 28 August 2015 (UTC)

Average attendances of non-football clubs
Please join the AfD discussion here. Many thanks. Spiderone 11:51, 29 August 2015 (UTC)

Armenia citation needed deletions
Hi GS, what are your views on these 3 removals of my citation needed templates, admittedly by two different editors, and one of which refers to Tag Bombing  ? Regards. Eldumpo (talk) 23:38, 29 August 2015 (UTC)

Thanks for looking at these. Also, I've had another reversion of uncited material at 2015 NRL season Eldumpo (talk) 08:54, 30 August 2015 (UTC)

Listen. I've not been making false edits on this and multiple articles constantly, have I? Transfers have been kept on articles unreferenced before. And don't you dare threaten to ban me for adding data that is FACTUAL. I've not violated any rules. — Preceding unsigned comment added by CodyCruickshank (talk • contribs)

Bradley Bubb
Hi! Thank you for keeping in an eye on the available sources for those statistics.

Please have a look at

- http://www.havantandwaterlooville.net/stats/apps.asp?y=2014 - http://www.havantandwaterlooville.net/stats/goalsbyall.asp?p=397

And let me know what you think. I believe Soccerway is less accurate than official club webpage.

Liam Moore
Can u please undo the change u made on my Liam Moore edit as it is 100% correct that his current club is bristol City — Preceding unsigned comment added by BristolCity elz (talk • contribs) 12:16, 1 September 2015 (UTC)

The edits I have made on the Liam Moore page are correct and I'd appreciate it if u didn't excuse me of vandalism. If u excuse me wrongly again I will make a official complaint. — Preceding unsigned comment added by BristolCity elz (talk • contribs) 12:33, 1 September 2015 (UTC)

Proof my edit is correct http://www.skysports.com/football/news/11095/9974915/liam-moore-moves-from-leicester-to-bristol-city-on-loan — Preceding unsigned comment added by BristolCity elz (talk • contribs) 12:37, 1 September 2015 (UTC)

Is NK Umag notable?
I didn't know if I should prod this or not. It is one of ~200 teams in Croatia's fourth tier league. Bgwhite (talk) 21:15, 1 September 2015 (UTC)

Quique Sánchez Flores - Bits and pieces
Dear fellow user, hope you are well,

regarding this article, and since you added an input on both page move discussions, I would like to know, respectfully, what changed your mind about supporting both moves (albeit four years apart, people change nothing wrong there). I feel absolutely gutted with this outcome, given that I was subjected to human waste abuse for over a year for being part of a group of users that supported the QUIQUE FLORES "front" (and I alone suffered the abuse, mind you).

Also, have a look at this reference someone else added to his article last week (please see here http://www.theguardian.com/football/blog/2015/aug/13/watford-quique-flores-di-stefano), he is addressed as QUIQUE FLORES in the title, then Q.S. FLORES once and just FLORES in the vast majority of the piece. I left a note at WP:FOOTY, but received no feedback whatsoever.

Have a happy one --84.90.219.128 (talk) 19:15, 4 September 2015 (UTC)


 * I see. So (and again, I am not being picky, just wiki-curious), what changed for you article-wise this time round? --84.90.219.128 (talk) 20:14, 4 September 2015 (UTC)

Thanks for the reply. To help out, I have been adding the newly created BOTOLA PLAYERS category to several players. --84.90.219.128 (talk) 15:18, 5 September 2015 (UTC)

elliot kebbie
Hi can you please contact me at crossy77@hotmail.com regarding this page..I have a few concerns Sports Analytics (talk) 17:43, 5 September 2015 (UTC)

Harry Hanger
Hello GS. Sorry, must be missing something here. The King ref was already in the article which did not include the info. that I added yesterday. The page Nos are 540–1 as in citation. The Purkiss/Sands pages are also in the citation (p 309). Let me know if you need anything more. Regards, Eagleash (talk) 09:05, 6 September 2015 (UTC)


 * Oh right I see. It's a table which goes across 2 pages. In this case all the info., except goals and appearances, is on 540. 541 would normally include club moved to, but this is blank. Purkiss/Sands (p309) merely says WWI. In light of this, I wonder about the Northampton Town entry as it seems Hanger died before the end of hostilities, but I don not know whether he was actually killed in the war or not. Eagleash (talk) 09:17, 6 September 2015 (UTC)


 * Now I think about it, I seem to have seen that information somewhere before. There's been some discussion on the CPFC forum too and although valid points were made in support of both versions, there wasn't anything we could use, as far as I could see. If it comes to the 2 Palace books, I trust Purkiss/Sands marginally more than King but Purkiss does not (habitually) give date(s) of death — unless the person died whilst at the club. I'll look through some other bits I've got but I really don't think I'll be able to help solve the riddle... Eagleash (talk) 11:01, 6 September 2015 (UTC)
 * Sorry, this slightly slipped my mind...Hanger's last app. for CPFC, according to King, was on 12 December 1914, which does not 'sit well' with the idea of him fighting in France 6 weeks or so before. (Pages 246–7). Hanger's profile in King, does agree with the DoD you sourced (p 148) Eagleash (talk) 19:32, 6 September 2015 (UTC)
 * Oops! No I meant 1914 not 15. And definitely not 20!!. (I've altered it in the preceding message)Eagleash (talk) 19:40, 6 September 2015 (UTC)

Deleted Loom (band) redirect
Regarding: 31 August 2015

(Deletion log); 18:01. . GiantSnowman (talk | contribs) deleted page Loom (band ‎(R3: Recently created, implausible redirect)

(Deletion log); 18:00. . GiantSnowman (talk | contribs) deleted page Loom(band) ‎(R3: Recently created, implausible redirect)

The redirect is plausible - when I send emails including the url http://wikipedia.org/wiki/Loom_(band), I've had issues with people unable to access the article and instead getting a Did You Mean page, because the final parenthesis gets cut off (the computer doesn't recognize the final parenthesis as part of the URL). I added this redirect to solve the disappearing parenthesis issue. Now that the redirect was deleted, I have the same issue where the user gets a Did You Mean page. Please return the redirect or undo the deletion. Thanks.

BeeApril (talk) 22:07, 6 September 2015 (UTC)

Fetty Wap
Fetty was born in 1990 and is 25 KaelanWikiPage (talk) 04:16, 7 September 2015 (UTC)

Thanks
Thanks for your help. Just curious though -- if you count the names on the list, there are 18, thus minus Lisa Dorrian you get 17. I think someone is getting overlooked. Anyway, thanks again. Yours, Quis separabit?  12:12, 8 September 2015 (UTC)

Greek IP
Here is the new IP I found (please see here https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/109.242.3.246), continues to engage in the same and, from what I saw, also has taken up (NOT) PC updating.

Attentively --84.90.219.128 (talk) 15:26, 8 September 2015 (UTC)

Kerry Sulkowicz
Hi,

Could you please restore the full history for both the page and the talk page? I am interested in seeing how the article evolved. Valoem  talk   contrib  18:16, 9 September 2015 (UTC)
 * Oops sorry, I didn't scroll all the way down. Valoem   talk   contrib  18:19, 9 September 2015 (UTC)

External links and references
Hi, regarding your previous edit on Arna Ásgrímsdóttir, is it necessary to still cite a reference in an article even though the source is already there as an external link? I just want to understand better, since I understood that an external link is enough to add content to an article, without specifically citing them. MbahGondrong (talk) 11:57, 10 September 2015 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the explanation. MbahGondrong (talk) 12:17, 10 September 2015 (UTC)

Quique Sánchez Flores
GS, as you know I don't fool around, I mean business... ALL honours are now sourced. I behaved well methinks, unlike this user (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/201.220.244.227 blocked as one can see) who, all the while calling me inept and somewhat of a liar (don't know if he meant me or User:MYS77, but all the same, no?), reverted to his preferred intro and, whilst at that, removed the three or four refs I had already added to the titles section and reinstated the redirects!

I tried to re-reinstate the previous intro, but it has been re-reverted, now by a respected/registered user. I know when I've been beaten. Attentively --84.90.219.128 (talk) 23:54, 10 September 2015 (UTC)

Rizky Iconia
Hi, I have some suspicions regarding a sockmaster User:Rizky Iconia and that he may have returned again. The blocking admin User:JamesBWatson is away until 18 September so I turn to you for help.

The main edits for all accounts is that they all edited a lot of kits and added kits with copyrighted logos.

The editor has been blocked for editing as:
 * User:Rizky Iconia
 * User:Rizky Shaimoery
 * User:Germany2014
 * User:Spiraaal
 * User:Rezart Taçi
 * probably more I can not remember now...

It is the last account that has now brought my attention back to this case. I spotted, name similar to a good editor SLBedit (perhaps attempt to edit without being spotted because we could confuse him with the good editor who is not a sock), and this new editor also go around edit kits and add logos like this edit or this edit.

The reason I spotted this editor, SLBeditor, was when he made this edit to David De Gea and I was looking to see image information so that it was not copyright and then I saw it was cropped by Commonsprofile Rezart Taçi (see ), just 3 minutes before it was changed by SLBeditor on the article. Also this Rezart Taçi has been editing a lot of kits on commons.

This has led me to believe it is the same editor. <i style="font-family:Sans-serif"><b style="color:blue">Qed</b><b style="color:red">237</b>&#160;<b style="color:green">(talk)</b></i> 12:05, 12 September 2015 (UTC)


 * No problem, thanks for the help. <i style="font-family:Sans-serif"><b style="color:blue">Qed</b><b style="color:red">237</b>&#160;<b style="color:green">(talk)</b></i> 12:23, 12 September 2015 (UTC)


 * Now at Sockpuppet investigations/Rizky Iconia‎. <i style="font-family:Sans-serif"><b style="color:blue">Qed</b><b style="color:red">237</b>&#160;<b style="color:green">(talk)</b></i> 12:43, 12 September 2015 (UTC)

Referee pages
Hello, I am hoping you maybe able to help. I was wondering what the criteria is on creating English associated football referees. Thanks Skyblueshaun (talk) 19:11, 13 September 2015 (UTC)


 * Thanks for getting back to me, I was more concentrating on the football league referees. Skyblueshaun (talk) 13:48, 14 September 2015 (UTC)

217.167.186.3
1 : Hi, you let me a message on my talk page - i disagree with it, could you answer me at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:217.167.186.3 ?

2 : Ok but it's like that on every national team's page in Wikipedia, there is no references about the number of caps or goals. I juste give you my reference and you should told me that BEFORE deleting all those changes which took time. If it's necessary I will put the website's reference in front of the national team's selection, but look at the other nationals teams pages there is nothing like that...

Saud Kariri
Hi GS, whilst not perhaps a major point, recent reversions at this article are not following the basis of the source, whereby honours are not sub-divided by club. Also some names of competitions being added are not reflecting the source used. What do you think? Eldumpo (talk) 18:47, 15 September 2015 (UTC)

Nainsukh
This was a really sloppy edit - you removed the only link to, and full location of, his birthplace, and all mention of his place of death. Please be more careful in future. Johnbod (talk) 03:13, 18 September 2015 (UTC)
 * Yes I do - there was no unreferenced content. Even if there was you DON'T just remove content, which you did in 2 ways, when satisfying a minor MOS point. Very sloppy. Johnbod (talk) 12:41, 18 September 2015 (UTC)

ANI issue
Sorry for bothering you and please ignore this if you're not interested in the issue. You were one of a few independent commenters on a recent ANI in which I am involved. There is new material on the issue and I would appreciate your input on the subject. To be clear that does not mean I want you to support me over the other editor, just provide your insight even if it's detrimental to my arguments. --ArmstrongJulian (talk) 19:50, 18 September 2015 (UTC)

Images
Hello GS,

Sorry to bother you...not your usual field of operation, but I wonder if you could offer some help and/or advice and/or suggestions. There is an IP editor who has been adding multiple (not very good or useful) images to Formula One articles over a period of several weeks. For example this, subsequently tidied up, version of Jim Clark's page. He also created several articles in talk pages a few weeks back which took a lot of sorting out by others. Several other editors have become involved and asked him to desist but the editor takes no notice and has become slightly aggressive (in at least one edit summary) and the IP address changes frequently. Today's batch of edits is here (some of which are actually quite useful) and, later, here and other lists can be made available. With the IP not being a proper signed up editor, we aren't certain how to handle this. Can you help at all? Thanks. Regards, Eagleash (talk) 17:47, 19 September 2015 (UTC)
 * Thanks. I have got a list of a number of IPs he has been using — 12 so far from recent edits. Probably some others. However, he has engaged in limited discussion on the Clark talk page and is now creating galleries for a number of articles, which is an improvement, but with few images in the article bodies. We'll see how it goes. Thanks again. Eagleash (talk) 21:32, 20 September 2015 (UTC)
 * Yes that is a consideration: the galleries created are quite large and will require some trimming. I think a 'softly' approach will be better here. Eagleash (talk) 11:42, 21 September 2015 (UTC)

Independent sources
Hi GS, what do you think about the recent post on my talk page about the apparent acceptability of non-independent sources, and edit summary at the article in question? Regards. Eldumpo (talk) 17:05, 21 September 2015 (UTC)

My edit to Jimmy Conrad
He DID sign a one day contract for a Special Event. And his full name IS James Paul Conrad. ItS in his Draw My Life video. Baleisfast123 (talk) 13:32, 22 September 2015 (UTC)

Greek IP
The latest I found (please see here https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/91.140.74.241), have a nice rest of week. --84.90.219.128 (talk) 22:25, 22 September 2015 (UTC)

Serie A club kits for the 2015–16 season
Hey GiantSnowman, I'm trying to correctly update all the kits for the Serie A clubs for the 2015–16 season, but I don't know how to do it perfectly. Could you possibly help me or let me know who I can ask for help? It would be enormously appreciated. Italia2006 (talk) 15:09, 23 September 2015 (UTC)

Evian Christ
Hi, the article Evian Christ which you created a couple of weeks ago popped up in a maintenance category and caught my attention. I don't know whether you have been keeping an eye on it, but it is now quite different to what you created. I was going to nominate it for deletion because it appears to be a case of too soon, with a touch of WP:BLP1E due to the incident of being locked up. But I noticed it was created by you, an experienced editor, with the edit summary "quick stub". So I thought it is appropriate to sound you out first. Do you think there is more to be added that would justify keeping it? Thanks, AtHomeIn神戸 (talk) 05:29, 24 September 2015 (UTC)

Keshi Anderson
Hi GS, heads up that Keshi Anderson has gone on loan to Doncaster, so you can move User:GiantSnowman/Keshi Anderson when he plays this weekend probably JMHamo (talk) 13:20, 24 September 2015 (UTC)

Sadiq El Fitouri
has recreated Sadiq El Fitouri. Based on your involvement in today's earlier AFD of this article, maybe you could take a look at the present version? WikiDan61 ChatMe!ReadMe!! 21:24, 24 September 2015 (UTC)
 * I just closed the AfD on this because it was speedily deleted earlier. JMHamo (talk) 21:27, 24 September 2015 (UTC)
 * - personally I think the AFD needs to be re-opened and someone needs to have a stern word with to tell them, basically, to stop fucking about. I've been at work then university for 14 hours, so I'm not 100%, but we look to have lost some page history? GiantSnowman 21:29, 24 September 2015 (UTC)
 * I have reopened the AfD... JMHamo (talk) 21:34, 24 September 2015 (UTC)
 * I don't know what page history would have been lost. Kin created a new page at Kin.emjx/Sadiq El Fitouri. When I checked for the existence of the proper name, I saw it had been deleted after a merge to your sandbox version under development. My only involvement was to move the newly created page to a proper title. Since the article had been deleted, there was no page history to lose. But I do note that Kin has been moving pages all over the place, creating a lot of confusion. WikiDan61 ChatMe!ReadMe!! 21:35, 24 September 2015 (UTC)
 * If you look at the current page history there is no AFD nomination from earlier today? GiantSnowman 21:37, 24 September 2015 (UTC)
 * Snowman, I believe you may have merged histories incorrectly. After you had moved the page to your sandbox, Kin created a new page. I don't know if a history merge was appropriate in that case. WikiDan61 ChatMe!ReadMe!! 12:39, 25 September 2015 (UTC)
 * I didn't move it to my sandbox...? GiantSnowman 14:25, 25 September 2015 (UTC)

WP:FOOTY
Hi there,

can you please offer some suggestion as to what should I do, after reading the thread "Doubt" at WP:FOOTY? Cheers and happy weekend --84.90.219.128 (talk) 09:12, 25 September 2015 (UTC)


 * I promise to leave the user mentioned in the thread well enough alone, but if he comes at me with more abuse then I honestly cannot promise anything, as far as my run-ins here this has got to be the worst. --84.90.219.128 (talk) 11:50, 25 September 2015 (UTC)

Anmar Almubaraki
Can u see this article Denizlispor →→→Current squad→→ Number 24 Anmar Almubaraki→→→ this my source, i wait ur answer Kurdistantolive (talk) 10:52, 27 September 2015 (UTC)
 * But i know this man play in turkey i see facebook and sport facebook for super lig in turkey Kurdistantolive (talk) 11:00, 27 September 2015 (UTC)
 * OK, can u see this article Iraqi players in the Süper Lig , :) Kurdistantolive (talk) 11:09, 27 September 2015 (UTC)
 * why why this good article i work for this article many hours and search for source read again Kurdistantolive (talk) 11:16, 27 September 2015 (UTC)
 * this for iraqi players in super lig turkey, if any one want know how many players from iraq play in turkey go to this article and know information please do not remove this article i want u see this article and help me wait Kurdistantolive (talk) 11:21, 27 September 2015 (UTC)
 *  u must explain, answe me Kurdistantolive (talk) 11:30, 27 September 2015 (UTC)


 * Really I want some help, Iraqi players in super lig is good article but need some changes , if u help me I will become pleasure and happy , if u removing this article I will become upset , please open the door , don't close all doors , help me Kurdistantolive (talk) 12:09, 27 September 2015 (UTC)


 * I put my article | here
 * I want u see
 * Kurdistantolive (talk) 12:34, 27 September 2015 (UTC)
 *  I do not want remove this article, if u can help me ? Kurdistantolive (talk) 12:44, 27 September 2015 (UTC)

DYK nomination of Puccio family
Hello! Your submission of Puccio family at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and some issues with it may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! Yoninah (talk) 19:50, 28 September 2015 (UTC)
 * We just need a QPQ for Historia de un clan and we're good to go. Yoninah (talk) 19:50, 28 September 2015 (UTC)

Spam link in Murun Altankhuyag article
Hi! You reverted my edit in Murun Altankhuyag article. But, for your information, this newsmongolia link you returned is a spam from a Russian schoolboy who created a very lowbrow site full of copyright violations and mystifications. It is no way a reliable source and it is prohibited to place links to this site in Russian Wikipedia. Thus, I ask you to delete this link youself.--89.109.49.133 (talk) 21:50, 28 September 2015 (UTC)
 * Sorry to jump in here GS, it is correct that there was a decision on ruWiki that agreed this was not a reliable source. However, the claim made here is backed up by other reliable sources in the article, notably nft. I don't see any reason why this should be removed unless it can be shown that this specific article is incorrect and therefore somehow other sources have been feeding from it. Fenix down (talk) 06:02, 29 September 2015 (UTC)
 * ✅. GiantSnowman 07:29, 29 September 2015 (UTC)

Love and War (Iraqi TV series)
Hi, can u see this my new article
 * I wait ur answer
 * Kurdistantolive (talk) 18:14, 29 September 2015 (UTC)
 *  Thank you  Kurdistantolive (talk) 18:22, 29 September 2015 (UTC)

Lyle Della-Verde
Not sure why you reverted my amends to this article. It still states that he was born in Leeds (supported by http://www.transfermarkt.com/lyle-della-verde/profil/spieler/170422 & http://www1.fulhamfc.com/kids-zone/academy-aces/lyle-della-verde) and attended the Central Foundation Boys' School; if these are correct, what's the problem with the categories? Folks at 137 (talk) 15:04, 1 October 2015 (UTC)

DYK for Puccio family
Cas Liber (talk • contribs) 20:39, 1 October 2015 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Administrator intervention against vandalism
We really need administrator attention at Administrator intervention against vandalism CLCStudent (talk) 20:45, 1 October 2015 (UTC)

Keshi Anderson nationality
Given as Nigerian in CPFC article (squad) but English in his page and in Doncaster Rovers page (that was me; taking it from your draft after stumbling on it somehow!). Any info. which might confirm either way? I trawled through the refs but couldn't see anything. Thanks. Regards, Eagleash (talk) 22:33, 2 October 2015 (UTC)

IP editor
Hello GS, We discussed on 20th/21st September, an IP editor who had been adding multiple images to various Formula One articles as well as some other types of disruptive editing. There really hasn't been much improvement, if anything the opposite, so something needs to be done. I have a list of about 20 different IPs he's been using. What else do we need to do? There are a fair number of edits attributed to all the IPs. Eagleash (talk) 20:17, 3 October 2015 (UTC)

Greek IP
Another one a-comin' (please see here https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/109.242.150.138). Regards --84.90.219.128 (talk) 20:35, 4 October 2015 (UTC)

Greek IP
And another, in case you're interested that is (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/91.140.67.31). --84.90.219.128 (talk) 02:32, 7 October 2015 (UTC)

Rev Del
Hello GS, could you please hide this edit summary to appease my OCD. Thanks, JMHamo (talk) 17:54, 7 October 2015 (UTC)

Infobox formatting
Please see the proper layout at Infobox football biography - just because others are incorrect is irrelevant! GiantSnowman 10:23, 27 September 2015 (UTC)
 * There are no restrictions in the infobox guidelines that limits the use of multiple parameters on the same line. In fact the general design considerations for infoboxes recommends that layout and ease-of-use should be regarded, hence so many editors choose to tighten the structure of overly long football players career statistics. In what scale do you intend to make this kind of reversals? Morhveem (talk) 18:17, 28 September 2015 (UTC)

Iran–United States football rivalry
Good evening, can u see this article and help me, i want ur help i dont want remove this article Kurdistantolive (talk) 15:07, 9 October 2015 (UTC)
 * Thank you for help me, I want to continue write this article Kurdistantolive (talk) 17:36, 9 October 2015 (UTC)

Jake Speight
Please correct this page Speight no longer plays football he has retired as stated in the kings Lynn press and reasons explained

Please follow this link then change this back

http://m.lynnnews.co.uk/sport/football/king-s-lynn-town-in-fitness-battle-for-the-visit-of-high-flying-bluebirds-1-6989809

XVXI (talk) 13:20, 10 October 2015 (UTC)

Although it says he will "probably" retire to concentrate on his businesses

I can assure you this is 100% the case in fact the new rules state you cannot be an agent with the FA  and a player

Please update XVXI (talk) 20:07, 10 October 2015 (UTC)

Albert Bartlett
I've added a few sources which are from books. I've added their ISBN numbers and relevant info. Please check to see if it's now ok. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Thebees1889 (talk • contribs) 15:05, 11 October 2015 (UTC)

Albert died in Bradford, West Riding of Yorkshire, in September 1969. This is from ancestry.co.uk. How can you cite this on wiki? Any help appreciated. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Thebees1889 (talk • contribs) 15:43, 11 October 2015 (UTC)

WARNING
before using the undo edit button, CHECK ALL THE EDITS by user. your use of undo on my edit BROKE the book citations which i fixed, which could have been avoided by simply readding the ref manually. the ref I removed was because it was NOT relevant to the line at which it was added.Mahfuzur rahman shourov (talk) 15:15, 11 October 2015 (UTC)

ANI notification
There is currently a discussion at Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. The thread is help in edit.. Thank you. Blackmane (talk) 15:58, 11 October 2015 (UTC)

List of feeder teams
Hey GS. I'm just here to question your revert of my edit. I don't follow your logic on two counts - 1) I just don't see why expired feeder agreements are supposed to be kept; 2) I disagree with the idea that you need to have a source to prove that an agreement is no longer in force. I'll take these two one point at a time to put weight behind my comments.

1 - Expired feeder agreements. Pardon my saying so, but I just can't follow your assertion (from the talk page of that article, from a similar discussion we had several years ago) that we need to keep defunct agreements on the list for no other reason than "because we are an encyclopedia". I know where you're trying to go with this argument, but it just doesn't flow. An encyclopedia is a compilation of knowledge, yes, but that doesn't mean that every article that may relate to a certain other topic must reference it. By deleting a link we are not making the articles on the clubs involved cease to exist. What's more, if the partnership between the clubs was truly momentous then it is entirely eligible for inclusion on the clubs' personal articles, so we are not expunging all references to it. If the partnership were not momentous then I'd venture to say that the partnership was not notable anyway, and probably should never have been included at all. Just because an encyclopedia is a collection of knowledge does not mean that every piece of information ever must be collected there. You've been around Wikipedia a good while now, just like I have, and you must surely have come across notability criteria before. I'm all for keeping the article, but even you must admit that there is a line that has to be drawn where a piece of information just becomes too trivial to be included. Who is truly going to care that eight years ago, there was a feeder relationship between Borussia Somebody and FC Whoever of Somewhere? More to the point, thinking in the long term, imagine this website 50 years in the future. Who will care about that old feeder relationship which existed before the reader's parents were even born? Keep it to the present tense. Dispense with irrelevant historicities. This article is just too trivial to keep a historical record.

To support my point, I'd like to also point out that it is not even a WP:FOOTBALL standard to do this. Take a look at, say, List of football clubs in England - a far more important article than this one. Does that article include any mention of defunct clubs? No, they get deleted the second they go defunct. Are there any mentions of, say, Darlington F.C., or Bromsgrove Rovers F.C. or Wimbledon F.C.? No, there's also no mention of Hereford United F.C., who only went out of business a year ago. When a club ceases to exist they simply do not count for that article any more. We should adopt a similar principle here.

Lastly I'd also like to point out that I don't remember ever seeing it being established as consensus that we should keep defunct partnerships on the list - this seems to be rather something that you are insisting on above and beyond the opinions of anyone else, but I'll let that drop for now.

2 - Not marking partnerships as defunct unless it can be so proven. I just can't see how this is a sensible way to proceed here. The simple fact is that these agreements are the kind of thing that are reported on once and then never again. They exist in a cocoon - their interactions entirely happening outside of the view of the average football fan. If one club says to another that they will send coaches and analysts to help the other one improve their training, will the press report on it every time it happens? Will the average fan be able to know when something is actually happening? Not without stalking individual members of the coaching staff they can't. You might occasionally hear that a player has gone on loan between the clubs as part of the partnership, or a friendly might be played, but what if those were not terms of the agreement? On top of this, clubs simply do not announce when a partnership has been cancelled. It's just not how football or business works. How then are we supposed to be able to prove that a partnership has ceased to exist? The only way we can do it is via logic - something that can't be cited.

Take, for example, Manchester City F.C. - for no other reason than because I support them, so I know these details off the top of my head and don't have to research them. Back all the way in 2007, when under the ownership of Thaksin Shinawatra, City created a "partnership network" of them plus six other clubs - from the top of my head, Chonburi, Grasshopper Zurich, FC Moscow, Perth Glory and I can't remember the last two. This deal was supposed to be the start of something big - a major, long-standing collaboration - but then the whole of Thaksin's management was supposed to be the start of something big and it never was. I'm fairly sure that the entire thing came to nothing before the clubs even started interacting. The deal was mentioned on the club website and then never referred to ever again, in any context, anywhere. Should we then conclude that it must still be going because it can't be cited that it's ended? No, it makes no sense. How can I prove it makes no sense? Well, difficult, but the major part of the evidence is that City now owns Melbourne City FC, a direct rival of Perth Glory, so what would be the virtue in maintaining two contradictory partnerships? What's more, being an 8-year old deal, I think we can conclude it long since ceased to exist. It almost certainly ceased to exist the day Thaksin sold the club, almost as long ago as the deal.

I'll also point out that Oldelpaso raised this point with you on the article's talk page back in 2013; a comment which you never responded to. It just doesn't make sense to use this as the justification for deciding when to mark deals as defunct.

I could continue to labour these points, and shape them into a rounded argument with a nicely-written conclusion, but I've taken up enough of both of us' time with what I've written so far. I'll leave it to you to digest, and respond to. Falastur2 Talk 22:16, 12 October 2015 (UTC)
 * - please see WP:TLDR, can you summarise your position? GiantSnowman 11:27, 13 October 2015 (UTC)
 * Sigh. I've always viewed TL;DR as nothing more than an excuse for people who don't want to read a developed argument to hand-wave it away. I would ask first of all - have you ever read the actual text of WP:TLDR? It actually points out very astutely that sometimes there is a point to writing long-ish passages, and that making them more concise dilute the point to the degree that your argument becomes trivial and easy to dismiss without actually bothering to consider it.


 * I highly recommend you first actually read WP:TLDR and re-evaluate your use of it in discussions in future. I also highly recommend you then actually read what I have written, because my summary below is very watered down and thus lacks any punch or weight, which is kind of important in making people appreciate what you are actually trying to communicate.


 * Anyway, in summary:


 * I disagree with your assertion that defunct feeder agreements must be kept.
 * I cannot see anywhere that this has been agreed via consensus and not just your ideal for this article.
 * To be honest, I do not even believe that defunct feeder agreements are notable. Some people would even argue that this entire article fails notability criteria, though I don't want to go that far.
 * Other articles do not follow your rules, for example List of football clubs in England. Defunct clubs are deleted on sight in that article. I do not agree that this article should be treated differently.
 * It is virtually impossible to prove a feeder agreement is defunct.
 * Other users have taken this point up with you before, and you have failed to address their concerns.


 * Thanks. Falastur2  Talk 17:20, 13 October 2015 (UTC)
 * No, you posted a massive wall of text completely unnecessarily. TLDR applied, trust me. Maybe this is a matter best moved to the article talk page? GiantSnowman 17:30, 13 October 2015 (UTC)

Nicholas Harrhy
Was looking through deleted items and noticed that the page Nicholas Harrhy has been deleted. As a Newport County fan I would like to bring back this page of one of our former players. Many thanks Langy010 (talk) 05:43, 13 October 2015 (UTC)

C.K Morgan
Theres no proof that C.K Morgan was signed to Rca Records. Wikipedia needs fact not hype — Preceding unsigned comment added by Gill Micheal (talk • contribs) 10:43, 13 October 2015 (UTC)

Autopatrolled
Hi, can u give me this user right Kurdistantolive (talk) 10:59, 14 October 2015 (UTC)
 * Editor ? can i give this user right Kurdistantolive (talk) 11:37, 14 October 2015 (UTC)

or Rollback? can u help me Kurdistantolive (talk) 11:44, 14 October 2015 (UTC)

Merge
Hi, a merge was result at AfD for Iraqi players in the Süper Lig, as it was my first merge could you take a look so it has been done correctly? Thank you. <i style="font-family:Sans-serif"><b style="color:blue">Qed</b><b style="color:red">237</b>&#160;<b style="color:green">(talk)</b></i> 14:21, 14 October 2015 (UTC)

Expired PRODs
Hi GS, could you please delete these expired PRODs when you have a moment Thanks, JMHamo (talk) 14:53, 14 October 2015 (UTC)


 * Thanks GS, could you also do Football at the 2017 Mediterranean Games too. Thanks, JMHamo (talk) 17:00, 14 October 2015 (UTC)
 * Actually can you tell me who was notified these were proded, because I nor the Scottish football sub project were. The consensus was always that these were notable amongst the Scottish football project and would allow down to SPFL 2 only. We seem to now have a massive bias where we are allowing lower league English League season article but not Scottish ones. Thats in a project thats made up mostly of English editors. Very disappointed in whoever proded these. Blethering   Scot  17:39, 14 October 2015 (UTC)
 * For instance how is this any less notable than Albion Rovers. Blethering  Scot  17:41, 14 October 2015 (UTC)
 * That would be - I suggest you two discuss. I am happy to restore the deleted articles if you wish. GiantSnowman 17:44, 14 October 2015 (UTC)
 * But seriously how is this more notable. Just reminds me why I stopped editing football articles. The project is damaged to the core, we pick and choose and don't consistently apply guidelines. There has been evidence of bias since I started editing football articles. Its just very sad that people don't have curtousy to notify editors it would effect. And to be honest Im slightly disappointed in you as well. Anyway never mind ill just edit for a project that actually is consistent. Blethering   Scot  17:58, 14 October 2015 (UTC)
 * I would suggest to users unhappy about this that they watchlist WikiProject Football/Article alerts − that's where project members are notified. The articles clearly fail WP:NSEASONS, so if they're restored, I'll take them to AfD instead (where others have also been deleted recently). The FGR article also fails NSEASONS and should be deleted. This is not an anti-Scottish bias issue (I've recently contributed several articles on Scottish football). Number   5  7  17:47, 14 October 2015 (UTC)
 * So will you be nominating the English articles that clearly do not meet guidelines. The answer is you choose not to. You always choose not to, until pulled up on it. As for contributing Scottish articles, thats brilliant but why do you have no respect for the taskforce that actually tries to make a difference to this area, You could of notified them. You could of notified the creator of all the articles. There is clear evidence of bias and unfortunately there always has been. Blethering  Scot  17:58, 14 October 2015 (UTC)
 * Nonsense, I've nominated English articles whenever I've seen them (see e.g. Articles for deletion/2012–13 Hyde F.C. season or Articles for deletion/2014–15 Guernsey F.C. season), so please don't try and claim otherwise. The only bias I have is against articles that don't meet our generally agreed notability criteria. I have no interest in notifying any taskforce about stuff like this, especially if they are ignoring wider consensus. Number   5  7  18:12, 14 October 2015 (UTC)
 * Sorry but I've seen it before with you. As for notifying people its a common courtesy as an admin you should be capable of doing. If you had bothered to notify I wouldn't be that bothered, except you did it on the sly. Also if your task is to delete articles that don't meet guidelines, your doing a terrible job. Forrest Green has seven seasons of articles. As do most teams at that level in England. Its a joke. Blethering  Scot  18:19, 14 October 2015 (UTC)

keep away from the personal attacks. GiantSnowman can restore the PROD'ed articled if you wish, then if they go to AfD you can argue your point there. JMHamo (talk) 18:26, 14 October 2015 (UTC)
 * No personal attacks in this section at all, simply pointing out that Number57 has form. He is an admin and should be capable of common courtesy. Blethering   Scot  18:29, 14 October 2015 (UTC)
 * Where have you seen it before then? Looking back at my AfD history, I've never created an AfD on a Scottish club season (as opposed to a few on English club seasons). Furthermore, I don't go round looking for these articles to delete, I do it as I come across them. The only reason I spotted the Albion articles is because I created Meadow Park, Coatbridge and added it to Albion Rovers F.C.. I don't believe I have edited the FGR template, otherwise I would have spotted the articles. Number   5  7  18:37, 14 October 2015 (UTC)

- I have restored the 3 articles, I suggest this is discussed further at AFD. GiantSnowman 19:08, 14 October 2015 (UTC)
 * GS I wish to state that I do not wish them to be restored, I see no grounds for these to be restored. By recreating them you are just wasting time. My issue here is firmly with Number 57. He should of notified me when he proded them. It states in WP:Prod that the article's creator or other significant contributors should ideally be left a message at their talk page(s) informing them of the proposed article deletion, except for cases where contributors are no longer regarded as active editors on Wikipedia. Its a common courtesy. He's an admin for god sakes. I probably would not of contested them directly, although with a lot of work I'm fairly certain these could be made to meet GNG. Its not worth the hastle however.  Blethering   Scot  19:14, 14 October 2015 (UTC)
 * You obviously have an issue with the nominations (and therefore subsequent deletions), so settling the matter at AFD is the next logical step. GiantSnowman 19:37, 14 October 2015 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of List of awards and honours won by S.L. Benfica players while representing their national teams
I know it's non-notable listcruft. I discovered that about 2 years ago, so I always knew a deletion process was in the horizon. Those trophies have nothing to do with Benfica. You can delete it immediately if you like, no need to wait seven days.--Threeohsix (talk) 20:33, 15 October 2015 (UTC)

PRODding a new incarnation
Hi. I saw your edit summary here at Miss Courtie. I understand the rule, "Confirm that the article is eligible for proposed deletion by checking that it: has not previously been proposed for deletion ..." to be a rejoinder to the rule that allows a PROD tag to be removed, establishing that once that has happened, the article can't be PRODded again. Are you interpreting that to mean that if the article was successfully deleted under WP:PROD, that future articles under the same title can't be PRODded? That surprises me. Is there an explicit statement of that interpretation somewhere? If not, I'm going to start a discussion at WT:PROD to gather a consensus on the interpretation and on wording the provision in WP:PROD to reflect the consensus explicitly. —Largo Plazo (talk) 12:23, 17 October 2015 (UTC)
 * As an aside, I really do apologize for my misreading and my remarks elsewhere that followed from it. —Largo Plazo (talk) 17:09, 17 October 2015 (UTC)

Nuclear RAT
see es:Nuclear RAT, this is malware, so, by definition, important.Xb2u7Zjzc32 (talk) 19:41, 17 October 2015 (UTC)
 * es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_RAT (translate.googleusercontent.com)Xb2u7Zjzc32 (talk)

Marcel Büchel
That was a photo of Martin Büchel, so I removed it from page of Marcel Büchel. MaPet92 (talk) 13:44, 18 October 2015 (UTC)

Speed
I'm sorry to have done things in the reversed order conc. Gabriel Ucar. I din't expect such a fast deletion (not in an article like that, of minor importance). But of couce things must be sourced. If You still think more references are needed, perhaps You could contact me first ? Sources in non-English is permitted. And I think those I have used are regarded as safe, and used by other football contributors. The most "unsafe" part is "his name was upcomming in the spring of 2002, but it makes sence - if one studies the Landskrona BoIS results for 2001 and spring of 2002 together with number of games played season for season. But I can add that in the game Halmstad BK vs Landskrona BoIS, the expert commentator (who was no other than Tommy Svensson (the Sweden manager during the FIFA World Cup in America 1994, in which Sweden won the Bronze medals) during a replay stated something like "look how Landskrona build up their attacks, here with Gabriel Ucars good play". And there were some newspaper articles about him (though not at the level that he was suggested as playing caps for Sweden). It's just that April, May, (June was WC) July into August approximately, was his most successful time, atleast in his original club. I wouldn't have started an article about him, but as there is one, and I've followed him and watched him play, something ought to be mentioned. And I think I chose something worth reading. OK? But I should of cource have written the inline refs before saving. To my defence can I only say that I had problems with getting the World Cup 2002 in blue. Sorry. Boeing720 (talk) 11:51, 19 October 2015 (UTC)

Spurious protection of Template:retrieved
retrieved is not a highly visible/high risk template. . Your reasoning for protecting it is invalid. There is nothing in WP:PP, WP:TPE or WP:EDIT that justifies your action. Additionally, your comments here are inappropriate. By protecting the template, you removed several parameters and negatively affected functionality. You also did sloppy work: the template code is out of sync with the template doc. Please remove the protection. 208.87.234.201 (talk) 13:52, 19 October 2015 (UTC)
 * Corrected transclusion instances: 483. However the higher number does not justify WP:HRT treatment. 208.87.234.201 (talk) 15:37, 19 October 2015 (UTC)

Since you are not responsive, I will make a request for unprotection at WP:RFUP. 208.87.234.201 (talk) 13:44, 21 October 2015 (UTC)

Danny Hesp
I have already started with the referencing process, like I said in the second summary if you remove the stuff again I give up, article stays with just a box and the links.

Additionally, I will ask User:Drmies to pitch in and find more (reliable) sources for the piece. I also apologize if my first summary was not all it could be, I ALWAYS react like that when my storylines are summarily removed and I have not engaged in POV or similar, nothing personal you already know me.

Attentively --84.90.219.128 (talk) 17:08, 19 October 2015 (UTC)

Italian categories
Brunetto, Simonetto, Gazotti, etc ARE Italian Surnames!, why do you delete my contributions? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 201.177.140.177 (talk) 19:38, 19 October 2015 (UTC)

European basketball team colors (?)
Hey, Snowman. When you have some time, can you weigh in on the team colors discussion @ Template talk:Infobox basketball biography‎? There's a European newbie driving all of the American editors nuts, suggesting that team colors should be removed from the basketball player's infobox entirely because of confusion over the team colors for several European teams. As a native English-speaker who is familiar with the conventions for European team colors, I'm hopeful you can bridge the cultural gap. Cheers. Dirtlawyer1 (talk) 15:26, 22 October 2015 (UTC)

Relativism
Hi, can you have a look at the recent edit/reversion at the above page. The info had been tagged for over two years. Thanks. Eldumpo (talk) 16:56, 24 October 2015 (UTC)

Please stop! With that pedantic attitude, easily 80% of the content of the philosophy articles can be deleted. Much of the content in that area is deficient, or not well expressed, or is not adequately referenced.

Wikipedia would be better served if only qualified people would add or remove substantial content of specialized or technical articles. That means having looked at the professional literature or a professional survey to support editorial action. Would you do this to an article in mathematics, physics, engineering, or any of the sciences? BlueMist (talk) 22:17, 24 October 2015 (UTC)


 * Without citations how can there be any certainty that the information is correct and relevant, which is a cornerstone of Wikipedia? I'm concerned to hear that apparently so many philosophy articles are unreferenced. Note that the text in question had been marked as needing a citation for over two years. Eldumpo (talk) 22:40, 24 October 2015 (UTC)

Louis Jung
What do you think when you write such an article. It is shorter than short. Not more than one line to be exact. And it has more errors than words in it. It would have been better you had done nothing. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 95.222.226.38 (talk) 20:48, 24 October 2015 (UTC)
 * Yeah, Sorry. The great Mathematics with the birthdate wasn't your fault. But Jung was never member of the European Parliament. I don't expect great biographies or even right spelling or so. But someone who wants to write stubs should be able to write one sentence about his subject without heavy substantial failure. Just my 2 Cents. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 95.222.226.38 (talk) 21:17, 24 October 2015 (UTC)

Mesfer Al-Qahtani
I removed your prod for Mesfer Al-Qahtani which I also moved to Mesfr Al Kahtani. I didn't understand this prod, as the external link in the article is to his FIFA competition record which shows that he did indeed have at least one appearance (I didn't search any deeper) for Ittihad FC in the 2005 FIFA Club World Championship. Given his long tenure with teams of the Saudi Professional League listed in WP:FPL it seems unlikely that this was his only appearance (though I haven't researched). I'd have contacted you rather than removing the prod, however it was already past the 7 day mark. This all seems so simple though ... which does make me wonder if I've missed something. Nfitz (talk) 22:50, 24 October 2015 (UTC)

No evidence this is the same person, no evidence he is notable. Yet another pointless AFD to go through while you continue your crusade to retain non-notable articles. Kudos. GiantSnowman 23:51, 24 October 2015 (UTC)


 * Lots of evidence. I don't see the need here to be uncivil, and violate WP:AGF. I was notifying you out of courtesy and was polite. Your response is not appropriate. Nfitz (talk) 23:54, 24 October 2015 (UTC)
 * So where's this evidence? Where's the significant coverage in reliale, third-party sources? GiantSnowman 23:56, 24 October 2015 (UTC)
 * He's played for years on clubs listed in WP:FPL. Nfitz (talk) 00:00, 25 October 2015 (UTC)
 * Again, where is the evidence in reliable sources that he has played "for years" in FPL? GiantSnowman 00:01, 25 October 2015 (UTC)
 * His page links to reference showing appearance for Ittihad FC in the 2005 FIFA Club World Championship. Haven't looked for league appearances, but seems very improbably that he'd play in Club World Cup not ever have appeared in regular season. Nfitz (talk) 00:04, 25 October 2015 (UTC)
 * Different DOB; different spelling; not an uncommon name. Need I go on? GiantSnowman 00:05, 25 October 2015 (UTC)
 * I see no source to support the alternate DOB listed on Wikipedia page - error?. Yasser Al-Qahtani is a very different person - I'm not sure why you are mentioning him. Misfer, Mesfer, and Mesfr are all alternate English translations of مسف. Al-Qahtani, Al Qahtani, Al-Khatani, and Al Khatani are all alternate translations of القحطاني.  For example if you look at Yasser Al-Qahtani  you'll notice his FIFA record calls him Yasser Al Kahtani. This leaves the question of did the player who played for Al-Ittihad  the same one who plays for Al Hilal - and I'm finding some references I'm still looking into from 2007 that do mention him playing for same team. Nfitz (talk) 00:15, 25 October 2015 (UTC)
 * Not listed at any of Al Hilal's squads over the past 5 years. GiantSnowman 00:10, 25 October 2015 (UTC)
 * I'm not surprised. I'm not sure he'd played since 2009! I've found some stuff that suggests he may have become a ref since leaving professional soccer. Nfitz (talk) 00:18, 25 October 2015 (UTC)
 * In fact, here's a 2009 forum discussion that mentions he retired in 2009 (and noting that he played for both Hilal and Ittihad). Not a reliable source ... but probably a good indicator that reliable sources could be found. . Nfitz (talk) 00:37, 25 October 2015 (UTC)

Unsourced edits from Fodbold-fan
Since you're already involved, I'd like to know what you think about this editor's behaviour before I pursue this any further, because I'm torn about what to do next here. Since the most recent round of final warnings, they've made three more partially unsourced edits (1, 2, 3). In all three cases the unsourced parts are small enough that it would almost not be worth caring about, but for the fact that they're in blatant disregard of a recent final warning. Since Fodbold-fan is ignoring the warnings, I don't really see anything short of another block correcting their behaviour, but I also can't help but feel that that would be coming down like a tonne of bricks given how inconsequential the unsourced material is. Those are my thoughts on the issue anyway, I'd like to know yours. Cheers. Sir Sputnik (talk) 01:13, 25 October 2015 (UTC)

New York Red Bulls Honors
I'm not too sure why you deleted every edit I just did for players, but I would like better clarification than I need to source.

I checked multiple players from various leagues and countries, and none that I found had sources for honors. The team won a trophy last night, so I added it to all of the players.

Will adding MLS article as a reference suffice? — Preceding unsigned comment added by DBonino (talk • contribs)

Football articles
I found Enrique Zschuschen, Dmitri Gudey and Arseni Zakharov and am unsure about their better notability and improvement. Comments? SwisterTwister  talk  02:22, 30 October 2015 (UTC)

DYK nomination of Constance Leathart
Hello! Your submission of Constance Leathart at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and some issues with it may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! SusunW (talk) 03:01, 30 October 2015 (UTC)

Creating article on Ragnar Þórhallsson
Hi there, The article on Ragnar Þórhallsson was previously deleted because the article was unsourced. I am planning rewrite this article and i am contacting you the deleting administrator before I start. Thanks! User:Carsonhk (talk) 02:45, 31 October 2015 (UTC)

John Witherow Verification
Hi, thanks for your help so far with the John Witherow page. However, it's still not verified. Could you help me out and let me know why???

Thanks

theoTheoDaviesLewis (talk) 10:42, 31 October 2015 (UTC)

Suput
Why are you removing Cyrilic name and Euroleague stats??? Pleas stop with vandalism at basketball articles.--Bozalegenda (talk) 12:44, 1 November 2015 (UTC)

Man is this some kind of joke or what? We dont add sources for cyrilic name, and euroleague stats table is there standing for years and is well sourced (look at the external links)... also you dont need to learn me what is wikipedia and what is sourced or unsourced cause i am here for years one of the main editors for basketball and i will definitely not add vandalism or something wrong... so please stop to revert.--Bozalegenda (talk) 13:07, 1 November 2015 (UTC)

Ok, then i want of you to delete all that at about 10,000 basketball articles who have native names in articles, and stats table. If you do not delete that to all articles then i will revert your changes here. You can not revert just here, and to 100000 other articles not.--Bozalegenda (talk) 13:32, 1 November 2015 (UTC)

Its not other articles, its ALL OTHER ARTICLES... not just sports. There is nowhere sources for native name. And we have also serbian wikipedia where you can see cyrilic name of person, so that is enough.--Bozalegenda (talk) 13:53, 1 November 2015 (UTC)

Please stop with this. If you want from me to leave this project than just say to me... but dont do this.--Bozalegenda (talk) 13:58, 1 November 2015 (UTC)

Dmitri Gudey and Arseni Zakharov
Looking at the prods Dmitri Gudey and Arseni Zakharov - both articles list multiple appearances in the Russian Second Division aka Russian Professional Football League the third level of Russian professional football listed in WP:FPL. Nfitz (talk) 14:04, 1 November 2015 (UTC)
 * The claims are unverified, and as I'm sure you're well aware there is plenty of AFD precedent to show that scraping through NFOOTBALL is not sufficient when the article fails GNG so comprehensively... GiantSnowman 14:08, 1 November 2015 (UTC)
 * If the articles are hoaxes that is different. The nominations though note that they don't meet WP:NFOOTBALL though; scraping through is a different issue. There are certainly examples of players with 2 or 3 games who are no longer active in that league being deleted at AFD. I can't say I'm aware of players meeting WP:NFOOTBALL with other a dozen games being deleted. Nfitz (talk) 14:12, 1 November 2015 (UTC)
 * Thanks. My only hesitancy to remove the prod myself is that though Russian Professional Football League is listed at WP:FPL, I'm not particularly familiar with it. Nfitz (talk) 18:55, 1 November 2015 (UTC)

Colin Doyle stats
Hello. What am I missing about the anon's update of the infobox and career stats at Colin Doyle (footballer)? They've updated the timestamp to a time after the last game included, and done all the totals in the career stats. I can't see anything to warrant reverting? cheers, Struway2 (talk) 09:30, 2 November 2015 (UTC)
 * The Iwobi one's wrong, agreed, but the others were correct and complete. I'll reinstate them. cheers, Struway2 (talk) 11:01, 2 November 2015 (UTC)

BLPPRIMARY
Sorry, I have to disagree, the primary source would be the certificate of birth/marriage/death. Therefore it's debatable whether the original index is actually a primary source, and so FreeBMD's transcription cannot be described as a primary source, particularly as the date of birth/marriage/death is not stated, only the quarter in which the the birth/marriage/death was registered. Best regards DynamoDegsy (talk) 12:34, 2 November 2015 (UTC)
 * The rugbyleagueproject.org website gives Brima(h) (sic) Kebbie's date of birth at Tuesday, 21st September, 1965, do you consider this a primary source? If not, why have you removed the date of birth from the article. In addition, the only birth of a Brima Kebbie on FreeBMD, shows a registration of birth during October→December 1965 (in Lambeth). So, how is searching FreeBMD any more original research, than searching rugbyleagueproject? DynamoDegsy (talk) 10:47, 3 November 2015 (UTC)
 * You say… 'No, that website (rugbyleagueproject) is clearly not a primary source', yet you also say 'I removed the DOB as it was unreferenced'… what is rugbyleagueproject if not a reference? I have grave concerns about your ability to edit BLPs. DynamoDegsy (talk) 13:01, 3 November 2015 (UTC)

Looking at your interactions with myself and others, you are clearly a pompous buffoon, whose administration status has clearly gone to his/her head, the very reason for Wikipedia's ever declining source of constructive editors. I'm done with you. DynamoDegsy (talk) 13:14, 3 November 2015 (UTC)

DYK for Constance Leathart
Cas Liber (talk • contribs) 00:01, 3 November 2015 (UTC)

Fábio Paím
13 GAMES and ONE GOAL grant the honour, I added two sources for the accolade. Remove it again I cease to care, my dear fellow user. I certainly know where you are coming from, hopefully you will too, especially in the light of the refs provided.

Attentively (and sorry if my summary upon reverting did not seem very "positive", I was trying to be assertive yet jocose but probably failed miserably) --84.90.219.128 (talk) 17:29, 3 November 2015 (UTC)

Balkans Cup / Mitropa Cup
Balkans Cup and Mitropa Cup needs to be improved, to create more seasons, there is not so much to write in one season, because it was just QF SF and Final round. Can you propose this on Wikipedia Football or somewhere to be created ? or if you want to create it. Thanks.

Also, I have another 2 notable teams from Divizia A with a page, waiting to be accepted: Jahn Cernăuți and Colțea București.

Also, if you can propose this : European Railways Cup to Wiki Football, we need a person from Russia to can read the references and add the rest of the information in the tables.

I am a beginner in Wikipedia, I do not know many about it, I just know about football, thats why I am here (to find mistakes and correct the football data), and thats why I said to you to ask the persons who can fix this problems or maybe you can fix it. Thanks.--Alexiulian25 (talk) 17:04, 4 November 2015 (UTC)

Greek verbatim nuisance
Here (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/46.190.56.252) and here (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/46.190.35.92). Cheers --84.90.219.128 (talk) 20:36, 4 November 2015 (UTC)

Arouna Koné
Do you think a range block is possible for the IP-hopper at Arouna Koné? I've semi-protected the article, but it's a shame to have to do so because of one individual. Mattythewhite (talk) 21:54, 4 November 2015 (UTC)

AIV
Hi there, can you review the reports on AIV? There's a backlog and a persistent IP vandal (195.194.74.141)-KH-1 (talk) 12:46, 5 November 2015 (UTC)

Soccer players
Why are you removing infonon pages of soccer players? Obchivas9 (talk) 21:12, 5 November 2015 (UTC)

Frans Baleni
'Evening GS. Would you restore Frans Baleni incl. history to User:Sam Sailor/Drafts/Frans Baleni, please? How did it qualify for G5? Best, Sam Sailor Talk! 19:10, 6 November 2015 (UTC)

Thank you!
I'm sorry for my miskate on it, but I'm very satisfied for your corection. Thank you very much! Hellojonathan (talk) 15:56, 7 November 2015 (UTC)

Block Evasion
Just out of curiosity, who is this IP who keeps posting on ANI about ArbCom and socking and keeps getting blocked for block evasion? I'm interested. Thanks, GABHello! 17:17, 7 November 2015 (UTC)


 * . Favonian (talk) 17:18, 7 November 2015 (UTC)
 * Good lord, they have quite the long history. Thanks! GABHello! 17:20, 7 November 2015 (UTC)

More unsourced edits from Fodbold-fan
Less than a week off their last block and they're at it again with these edits to Emil Nielsen and their creation of Adnan Mohammed (footballer). In both cases its the youth career which is unsourced. Please double check my work, before doing anything though. I can't completely rule out that I'm not missing something and that would make a lot more sense than this editor continuing to violate WP:RS, despite knowing what the consequences are and seemingly acting in good faith. And while I've got your attention, could I also get you to move the Mohammed article to Adnan Mohammed. It currently redirects to Saudi detainees at Guantanamo Bay. Since the Guantanamo detainee is not notable and spells his name differently, I think its safe to assume that the footballer is the primary topic. Cheers. Sir Sputnik (talk) 04:36, 8 November 2015 (UTC)

ANI and block
--Comptetemporaire2015 (talk) 14:38, 8 November 2015 (UTC)
 * I've replied in my talk page. Thank you,--Comptetemporaire2015 (talk) 09:59, 9 November 2015 (UTC)
 * Sorry but I believe there are still points to be fixed. I've mentioned them in my talk page. Thanks,--Comptetemporaire2015 (talk) 12:49, 9 November 2015 (UTC)

Referencing title wins
Hi, since you gone round removing "unreferenced" title wins to several players that have recent won their league title, I'd like to know how you would suggest sourcing honours won? Looking at other pages of players who have won major titles, like John Terry, they have no references, these should therefor also be removed as they are unsourced? --Dave logic (talk) 21:04, 8 November 2015 (UTC)

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Hi, this is MartianDuk. I'm trying to find the sources for all the other text that did not have a reference. None of that stuff was added by me, only the stuff about the Cup Winners Cup, but it was there before without a reference. Also, I've messed up the reference a bit because I haven't cited a book before, but I find the help pages very confusing.MartianDuk (talk) 18:54, 10 November 2015 (UTC)

Greek IP nuisance
New address found, this one "heavily" used (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/176.58.137.222). Believe me, tomorrow will work like hell to reinstate my hard work in Gerhard Poschner, all we have now for a guy that played nearly 500 games as a pro is he was sent off against Chelsea, "cool"... But don't worry, I won't reinstate the TRUE honours if it kills me.

Attentively --84.90.219.128 (talk) 02:45, 11 November 2015 (UTC)


 * I am working in it NOW, please wait a few hours to "enter the wikiarena". --84.90.219.128 (talk) 16:10, 11 November 2015 (UTC)

Done. If this does not cut it... Only two "beefs" subsist, one minor (his spell as a commentator), one major (his family fleeing Romania for political reasons). I will now tip User:Jaellee to see if he can come up with something from the German web - I could not and my eyes are hurting now - if he can not remove away, my work is done. --84.90.219.128 (talk) 18:11, 11 November 2015 (UTC)


 * Apologies for any inconvenience (i.e. what was wrong with my wording in Poschner's intro if you don't mind telling me so?), in the end WP won, which is the most important as always. Cheers --84.90.219.128 (talk) 18:27, 11 November 2015 (UTC)

All completed now, after Jaellee's reply. --84.90.219.128 (talk) 19:53, 11 November 2015 (UTC)

Irvin Jim
Hello GiantSnowman,

You deleted this article as the creation of a blocked or banned editor. The article came to my attention at AfD and I made significant efforts to expand it and reference it. I am asking if you would consider restoring the article. I think if you look at the history, you will see that it was dramatically different from when it was created, and I added most of the content and all of the references. I believe that he is notable and there was strong consensus that he is at Articles for deletion/Irvin Jim. <b style="color:#070">Cullen</b><sup style="color:#707">328  Let's discuss it  05:00, 12 November 2015 (UTC)
 * Thank you for restoring the article. <b style="color:#070">Cullen</b><sup style="color:#707">328  Let's discuss it  16:04, 12 November 2015 (UTC)

User HankMoodyTZ
User HankMoodyTZ continues his disruptive edits after his recent block. He again removed referenced content from Semir Štilić without any comment--Oleola (talk) 15:26, 12 November 2015 (UTC)

Football edits
Hey GS, You have been systematically removing my edits, whether I put sources or not. Most of my edits don't require sources (nationality change edits) and are based on information other uses put in (which is usually referenced). What would I have to do different for my updates not to be deleted? I don't mean to cause any issues, but your reversions don't seem to make sense to me. Ortizesp (talk) 00:04, 13 November 2015 (UTC)

Robbie Brady
Hello GS, please protect Robbie Brady too. continues to vandalise. Thanks, JMHamo (talk) 22:16, 16 November 2015 (UTC)
 * Seems to have calmed down, protecting might not be required now. JMHamo (talk) 22:38, 16 November 2015 (UTC)

Special:Diff/691134542
Hi GiantSnowman. Did you see any vandalism or why did you fail to provide an explanation? As you might know, 60% of editors whose edits had been reverted without any explanation said that this made them less likely to edit, while only 9% of editors whose edits had been reverted with explanation felt less inclined to edit. --Leyo 23:02, 17 November 2015 (UTC)
 * No, I saw an editor with a long history of unsourced and unexplained changes to BLPs making more unsourced and unexplained changes to BLPs. GiantSnowman 08:54, 18 November 2015 (UTC)
 * Have you ever asked Wardgattitriology nicely to cite sources or to give a short explanation/reason in the edit summary? I agree this is needed.
 * On the other hand, it would be sufficient if you provide a very brief explanation in your revert summary, e.g. unsourced or similar. This warning is clearly an overreaction as the addition was fine and trivially verifiable. As you know, there were several friendly games yesterday night. --Leyo 10:02, 18 November 2015 (UTC)
 * The editor has received sufficient notifications and warnings. Competence is required etc. By all means feel free to take a softer approach if you feel I have been too harsh. Regards, GiantSnowman 11:42, 18 November 2015 (UTC)
 * Thanks for this. The reaction seems to be constructive. --Leyo 14:32, 18 November 2015 (UTC)

November 2015
Please refrain from making unconstructive edits to Wikipedia, as you did at Peter Sloly. Your edits appear to constitute vandalism and have been reverted or removed. If you would like to experiment, please use the sandbox. Repeated vandalism can result in the loss of editing privileges. Thank you.

References for the Honours section were provided, see ‘External Links’, “The Governor General of Canada > Honours > Find a Recipient > Peter Sloly”; or, alternatively, see “Peter Sloly's biography at Toronto Police Service” or Reference#3 “Command Officers' biographies • Peter Sloly, Deputy Chief, Operations Support Command”, Toronto Police Service; or, alternatively, read the edit summary from the edit that created the “Honours” section that you deleted, that edit summary having read "MOS:DATEUNIFY / MOS:DATERET — Citation standardization — “Honours” per TPS Bio — Add source/Link to GG awards — Remove WP:Persondata depreciated".

Just pointing out how much it sucks when someone removes information as ‘unsourced’ only because they can't be bothered to review the article or check the edit summaries. Your edits, which I reverted as unref'd, did not contain references for the changes you made, either in the edit summary or in the diffs; therefore, they in fact were unref'd changes properly revertible and not vandalism as you unjustly accuse. I notice from a review of your edits that you make a habit of drive-by deletions simply because, clearly without checking and without reviewing the article or the references, it isn't obvious to you what the source was. A review of your contributions list seems to indicate that you make such unconsidered changes many times each day and, while no doubt you are occasionally correct in your assumptions, that is no substitute for making the effort to be correct each time. The fact that you made two edits to the Sloly article very nearly led to my missing the earlier deletion of the entire section.

Regardless, point made and taken. No harm, no foul. Have a nice day! — Wikierroneous 23:46, 17 November 2015 (UTC)

Incomplete DYK nomination
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Disruptive editing
Hi there, any chance you could stop 191.7.157.249 in his tracks? They have been removing sourced content and adding unsourced content as well content with unreliable references, all in relation to nationality/ancestry. Regards, Robby.is.on (talk) 04:37, 21 November 2015 (UTC)

Alex Titchiner
Why would the Chester total be wrong and why is it not needed? User:2008jordancfc 19:12, 22 November 2015 (UTC)
 * That's irrelevant it shows his total appearances for the club over any spells. His Witton Albion do the same. User:2008jordancfc 19:17, 22 November 2015 (UTC)

ArbCom elections are now open!
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Budapest Club.
Hi, GiantSnowman.

The name I found on the Wikipedia is St George FC, but for Hungary's capital city I didn't have to look for. It's Budapest, not "Budepest". So I reverted to my edition that is correct. Do you agree now? I hope so. (I think there is a lack here: emoticons that would help specially when people is not fluent in a foreign language.) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rodriguma (talk • contribs) 02:58, 24 November 2015 (UTC)

Football articles
I found several more footballers articles that seem questionably notable in case you wanted to review them: (#1) Macamito, (#2) Anna Petrosyan, (#3) Alain Ketchemen, (#4) Alysson Marendaz Marins, (#5) Katlego Pule, (#6) Rafael de Assis, (#7) Ryan McCluskey, (#8) Miguel Bianconi, (#9) Kostadin Dyakov and (#10) Rodrigo Gonçalves de Oliveira Lopes Silva. Cheers! SwisterTwister  talk  05:45, 24 November 2015 (UTC)

Liam Moore
Please tell me what I "blanked out". If you look, I actually added Moore's squad number, as taken from the Bristol City F.C. page, and here is the proof. You were the one who "blanked" the section when you undid my edit. 81.96.94.137 (talk) 23:01, 24 November 2015 (UTC)

Macedonian First Football League
Hi there GS, can you have a look at the recent edits at the above article, at my talk page and at user:Alexiulian25's talk page. He seems to be unaware of a number of key Wikipedia principles, such as the need to cite/not just a matter of writing what you feel, reinsertion of tagged material, civility, use of sources, bare url's, and lack of edit summaries. Anyway, hopefully you can have a quick review and act accordingly. Whilst he seems to want to be a conscientious editor and contribute positively, there are a number of issues that I think should be addressed and that he needs to become aware of. Regards. Eldumpo (talk) 23:47, 29 November 2015 (UTC)
 * For info, the 'by city' section has been re-added to the Macedonian article. Eldumpo (talk) 23:40, 2 December 2015 (UTC)

Potentially non-notable creations of yours
While reviewing a list of articles I had flagged as potentially non-notable despite technically meeting WP:NSPORT I came across these two: Mike Smet and Roy Meeus. Since they're your creations, I figured I should run them by you before putting them up for deletion. To me this looks like a simple case of them having seemed notable enough at the time, but they're careers didn't pan out. Have I got that right or do you remember anything from when you created them that might change my mind? Cheers. Sir Sputnik (talk) 02:02, 1 December 2015 (UTC)
 * I'll also mention I encountered the first one with my searches and noted it for my list as well as I was unsure of its notability. Cheers, SwisterTwister   talk  00:35, 2 December 2015 (UTC)

Please be careful
I saw the situation once (definitely, just can't remember the article) where you inserted a team category for a player/coach just because the club happened to be mentioned in the storyline. Now, it has happened again, as you can see from the infobox, João Diogo Serpa Meira has never played for Padroense, just a team he played against.

Oh, and all the honours you have removed are being/will be sourced, believe me. Attentively --84.90.219.128 (talk) 02:43, 2 December 2015 (UTC)


 * Maybe just one of those "auto-technicality" thingies, I would never think anything than the best of you, I may don't see eye to eye with some of your editing approaches (i.e. the "unref" stuff for honours and int'l goals, removed even when they are sourced in the storyline), but I know you are working for the best of the project. Cheers --84.90.219.128 (talk) 17:46, 2 December 2015 (UTC)

Narrow minded
Why you are narrow minded ? You have the name of the teams and cities where they are from in the table above !! I just took the name of cities and made a new table ! It is not the only article with this kind of information ! How old are you man ?--Alexiulian25 (talk) 12:07, 3 December 2015 (UTC)

How stupid you can be ? It is not personal research, the information is from the table above ! It appears just the name of the cities without the name of the team !--Alexiulian25 (talk) 12:33, 3 December 2015 (UTC)

I am not impolite - you are making me angry with what you say. It is not the first article with this problem ! Why you are rasist and just delete "performance by city" from this article ? "you are analyzing other material to make your own information" - It is not my own material - you have the references there - i just create a table to exapand the information - is a big difference - Think man please.--Alexiulian25 (talk) 12:39, 3 December 2015 (UTC)

You should revert your way of thinking. and you should understand that is not my own work, just information from the reference ! but in other way. How old are you man ? You act like a child !--Alexiulian25 (talk) 12:45, 3 December 2015 (UTC)

Sorry
I am sorry for saying that, but you should not delete people work without a warning !--Alexiulian25 (talk) 14:59, 3 December 2015 (UTC)

RfA nomination Qed237
Hi.

I write this message to you as you are one of the administrators that I come in contact with on a regular basis.

The reason is this nomination at my talkpage from a editor that I dont have talk with very much, but I see him/her editing the same articles. I have been nominated by others before (never nominated myself), but in those cases I withdrew immediately, before voting started, because I did not feel ready.

Now I wonder if you, as an administrator, have any comments regarding this nomination or perhaps even questions? Do you think I have any chance of becoming an administrator and that I should move on with the nomination or should I withdraw? What is my next step?

Any comments would be appreciated. Thank you. <i style="font-family:Sans-serif"><b style="color:blue">Qed</b><b style="color:red">237</b>&#160;<b style="color:green">(talk)</b></i> 01:45, 5 December 2015 (UTC)

User:Alexiulian
Still having a few problems with this user. See this post at a talk page which is incorrect place, but I don't want to just remove it. See also recent posts at my talk page. Regards. Eldumpo (talk) 13:57, 5 December 2015 (UTC)
 * Surprised this editor has not been blocked a long time ago, no one is responding at ANI or edit warring noticeboards. <i style="font-family:Sans-serif"><b style="color:blue">Qed</b><b style="color:red">237</b>&#160;<b style="color:green">(talk)</b></i> 14:08, 5 December 2015 (UTC)
 * Thanks for removing that post, I didn't want to do it myself. I did see your post at Edit warring, but didn't know if I should respond if I'm involved? Eldumpo (talk) 14:12, 5 December 2015 (UTC)
 * No problem, that post should not be there, especially since it being a personal attack. Probably best to let an uninvolved admin respond at the noticeboard, but if you want to add a comment feel free to do so. <i style="font-family:Sans-serif"><b style="color:blue">Qed</b><b style="color:red">237</b>&#160;<b style="color:green">(talk)</b></i> 14:24, 5 December 2015 (UTC)
 * FWIW all communication between myself and this editor has broken down - although once a good editor, it seems they are no longer here, and I would support a preventative short term block -- samtar whisper 15:30, 5 December 2015 (UTC)
 * Hey, guys - just wanted to note my response to 's AIV report this morning. I reverted a personal attack on his user page and gave him a 4im for NPA, so it's crystal clear with no ambiguity. He's quite upset with over on my talk page. Being upset is fine as long as you're civil about it, but we're not going to tolerate that stuff. The admin corps is stretched a bit at the moment; please have some patience with us. Katietalk 15:39, 5 December 2015 (UTC)
 * Okay, I thought a final warning for personal attack two days ago (diff) as well as multiple other warnings would be enough (he removes them from his talk). His behaviour over the last few days is very bad. <i style="font-family:Sans-serif"><b style="color:blue">Qed</b><b style="color:red">237</b>&#160;<b style="color:green">(talk)</b></i> 15:55, 5 December 2015 (UTC)
 * Agree his behavior is terrible, and I think I've made that plain to him now. I did see the warnings and I do note his tirade up there to GiantSnowman (though I didn't see the latter before I gave the 4im). I guess I'm AGFing all over the place these days, so I gave him one last chance. I'll be around most of this weekend, so if he resumes, ping me. Katietalk 16:01, 5 December 2015 (UTC)
 * Okay, will do. I guess christmas is coming close, I have been more friendly as well, at least IRL, but I am tired of this editor now. <i style="font-family:Sans-serif"><b style="color:blue">Qed</b><b style="color:red">237</b>&#160;<b style="color:green">(talk)</b></i> 16:04, 5 December 2015 (UTC)


 * - thanks for resolving this while I've been away. GiantSnowman 08:02, 6 December 2015 (UTC)

User:Abcmaxx
Hi can you have a look at a number of recent reversions of my edits that this user has carried out, generally involving re-insertion of tagged or otherwise unreferenced material. Articles include Lega Basket Serie A, Slovenian Second League and Albanian Superliga but seems to be going through a number of articles that I've edited. Thanks. Eldumpo (talk) 12:25, 6 December 2015 (UTC)
 * I've never seen you "edit" anything ever. There's external links on all these pages and all you're doing is deleting a list of winners, without which the article is completely uselessAbcmaxx (talk) 12:35, 6 December 2015 (UTC)
 * An external link is not a direct citation, but references should be direct. A number of the articles had previously been tagged for some time. Eldumpo (talk) 13:44, 6 December 2015 (UTC)

GS, thanks for your edits. I note your point re summaries, I do generally use edit summaries to make clear my changes but will make a point of doing so. Eldumpo (talk) 13:44, 6 December 2015 (UTC)

Proportional Representation
Hello GiantSnowman,

User:BalCoder is trying to make massive edits/reversions to the Proportional Representation article without providing any sources whatsoever! Specifically, BalCoder is trying to remove the entire "PR in the broader family of voting systems" section from the article.

The classification of voting systems BalCoder is trying to remove has been thoroughly sourced. Please visit the Electoral Reform Society of the UK for more information. This is just one of several sources BalCoder is alarmingly ignoring in these disputed edits. Please feel free to visit the talk page for more information. We would appreciate your assistance in mediating this dispute.

Thank you,Ontario Teacher BFA BEd (talk) 01:08, 7 December 2015 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of Leo Goldstein


The article Leo Goldstein has been proposed for deletion&#32; because of the following concern:
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Problems with stats updating, yet again
Hello. I wonder if anything can be done about 's approach to updating player stats. I noticed from their talk page that you'd warned them in the past. Since they came to my attention I've bent over backwards AGF'ing with explanations and all the rest, but I've had enough. The following seven examples are taken from ten consecutive player pages they edited on Sunday afternoon:


 * 1) at Vicente Iborra, updated infobox goals correctly but omitted one appearance (since corrected by another user);
 * 2) at Fernandinho (footballer), updated infobox stats to include player's last game, but set the as-of timestamp to before that game kicked off;
 * 3) at Jonas Gonçalves Oliveira, where the stats had already been updated with one league app too many, set the datestamp to date of last match without correcting the apps, and updated the stats table with missing European apps/goals but without correcting the league apps or including his missing Portuguese Cup app;
 * 4) at Gonzalo Higuaín, career stats datestamp before last match included;
 * 5) at Tom Ince, updated stats table without including missing League Cup app (to be fair, so did everyone else that edited the thing in the last three months);
 * 6) at Jesús Navas, infobox timestamp before last match included in stats;
 * 7) at Davide Astori, infobox datestamp inconsistent with stats.

The editor insists they're not being deliberately disruptive: if that's the case, there's a massive competence issue. Doesn't half remind me of User:Thedorigi... cheers, Struway2 (talk) 11:25, 8 December 2015 (UTC)


 * If you check out my recent contributions, you'll see that all yesterday afternoon I was cleaning up the mess left by the above, did some more last night (while they were editing) and again this morning. Also, at Karim Benzema and elsewhere, other people have fixed their mistakes. There are other pages where they've just basically added 1 to the stats table without adding in any other games since it was last updated, e.g. at David Silva and Selçuk İnan, where the content was wrong before they edited so there's little point in reverting their edits to a different incorrect version. And some of their edits were absolutely perfect. Just to let you know I've no intention of devoting any more time to them, apart from if they attack pages on my watchlist. cheers, Struway2 (talk) 10:13, 9 December 2015 (UTC)
 * But seeing as they did...
 * Ahmed Musa: must have consulted a source, to get the current league and European stats right, but left out the domestic cup match;
 * Pontus Wernbloom: stats complete and up to date, but as of 8 Dec, not the 29 Nov they put;
 * Mattia Destro: infobox datestamp hadn't been correctly updated for some time, so they set it to a different wrong date (last match included was 6 Dec, they set it to 4 Dec);
 * Esteban Cambiasso: left out domestic cup game;
 * Lionel Messi: updated for latest Champions League game but not intervening domestic league game;
 * Alexandre Lacazette: updated infobox stats up to 27 Nov rather than up-to-date but set timestamp to hours before that day's match kicked off; appears to have updated stats table to that date as well, except they've dated it as of 9 Dec, and included the goal from last night's Champions League game.
 * Four of their other five edits were correct. The one at Artyom Dzyuba was rubbish as well, but you already removed the stats table as unsourced. cheers, Struway2 (talk) 09:29, 10 December 2015 (UTC)
 * Thank you. I've fixed the above examples. cheers, Struway2 (talk) 13:31, 10 December 2015 (UTC)

DYK for Bjørn Borgen
Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 00:04, 9 December 2015 (UTC)

Disruptive editing/block evasion
Since this IP has been blocked, the same user is now making disruptive from this IP|. Please block. :-) Robby.is.on (talk) 22:37, 9 December 2015 (UTC)

Sir gidabout
Just wondering why you're rollbacking all their edits? A lot of them were correct. Number  5  7  00:23, 12 December 2015 (UTC)
 * OK, cheers for letting me know. Always a difficult situation with people like that... Number   5  7  12:39, 12 December 2015 (UTC)

Rory Gaffney / Cambridge United squad
Hi there.

I noticed you reverted two edits on the above pages which were good edits (Bristol Rovers squad number and departure of Morrissey respectively). Was there a reason for this as none was stated? I have reverted back to correct articles Footielad (talk) 12:38, 12 December 2015 (UTC)

Thanks for response Footielad (talk) 16:52, 12 December 2015 (UTC)

Stats updating
Hi,

I have seen complaints about a users stats updates, which eventually led to a 48 hour block two days ago. Now he is back and immediately set 31 December as the update date in this edit. Thought you might want to know, this editor has some issues. <i style="font-family:Sans-serif"><b style="color:blue">Qed</b><b style="color:red">237</b>&#160;<b style="color:green">(talk)</b></i> 12:42, 12 December 2015 (UTC)
 * So far I had to correct all their edits today. First the date as 31 December above, and then this use of unreliable transfermarkt and this change of numbers which was not according to the source he use (one match in starting XI and 3 as a sub, but he interpreted source as only one match played). <i style="font-family:Sans-serif"><b style="color:blue">Qed</b><b style="color:red">237</b>&#160;<b style="color:green">(talk)</b></i> 13:26, 12 December 2015 (UTC)
 * For your information, this happened after you warned him at my talkpage and I gave him a final warning. The editor might have good intentions (I think so), but the execution lacks competence. <i style="font-family:Sans-serif"><b style="color:blue">Qed</b><b style="color:red">237</b>&#160;<b style="color:green">(talk)</b></i> 23:02, 12 December 2015 (UTC)

Dymon Labonne
Hello GS, this Bishop's Stortford player, who was a junior at West Ham, with limited, if any, playing time presumably cannot be considered notable. What would be the preferred way of dealing? Thanks. Regards, Eagleash (talk) 16:15, 12 December 2015 (UTC)


 * Also Alessandro Liistro (sent to me via suggestbot) where seems Italian Serie D is playing level. Thanks. Eagleash (talk) 16:18, 12 December 2015 (UTC)


 * Thanks. Eagleash (talk) 16:46, 12 December 2015 (UTC)

Georgios Fotakis
Hello.. i told you 3 previous times that Fotakis is a Free Agent player from the summer of 2015.. He last played for Panetolikos FC and his contract was solved by mutual agreement in July 1 2015. He NEVER PLAYED FOR VERIA FC, and he currently doesn't play in any team.. There was an editor that placed an "oral agreement" as an official contract and you keep reverting my edits. Do as you want my friend but remember that WIKI is currently misinforming all the users. Thanx — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tsobek (talk • contribs)

Frank Parsons
Hello GS, I'm currently drafting a page for Parsons who played as a keeper for Palace, Cardiff and Reading in the 60s, & 70s. There is already a page for Frank Parsons (footballer), an Australian player (association not Aussie rules). I was wondering about the best way to disambiguate. "Our" Parsons was English born but one of his non-league club profiles states he represented Wales at U-23 (no details of appearances or dates though). Would the best way be to title, "born 1947"? Would the Aussie page need moving to birth-date accordingly? Thanks. Eagleash (talk) 16:56, 14 December 2015 (UTC)


 * Thanks, but is that right? (Probably me - usually is -) the Aussie Frank is an association player not Aussie rules. If his page is moved to Australian football (or footballer) it might indicate the wrong code? Thanks. Eagleash (talk) 17:24, 14 December 2015 (UTC)


 * Thanks, that seems like a workable precedent. Regards, Eagleash (talk) 21:24, 14 December 2015 (UTC)

New IP from Greek verbatim punk
(https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/176.58.134.215 Here). Attentively --84.90.219.128 (talk) 19:16, 14 December 2015 (UTC)

AE LARISSA FC
Good evening. I need your help. I wish to express a major complaint about the treatment i have by some administrators. 4 years now, i try to upgrade with much effort and hard work the quality of the page AE LARISSA FC... as you can see i put valid historical data and references and try to update everything.. Lately i uploaded some images that although were certified and fully licensed by WIKI Commons and were also used in other pages in WIKI, they were removed by some admins without specified reason! They also removed the official club's crest! I would like to know if i should continue to work and update the page or to stop right now. Thanks for your time. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tsobek (talk • contribs) So what can i do to revert the edits? Can you help me with this?

Notable?
Fred Baron (footballer)? Dirtlawyer1 (talk) 21:49, 14 December 2015 (UTC)

Riyad Mahrez
An expatriate is by definition someone who "withdraws (oneself) from residence in or allegiance to one's native country", see Merriam Webster's Dictionary. (Sport's) Nationality, birth place or the perception of a certain nationality have therefore basically nothing to do with identifying the expatriate's native country. The native country is the place where someone has his original/main place of residence.

In the case of Riyad Mahrez, his native country is without any doubt France and he has never resided in Algeria permanently or for a longer time. Thus he cannot be an Algerian expatriate. DrunkenGerman (talk) 13:54, 15 December 2015 (UTC)
 * Well as I have pointed out, his sports nationality is meaningless in identifying his expatriate status. To be expatriate of a certain country, you have match two criteria:


 * 1. The person has to be a native of the country (usually being born there; I personally would also go for being grown up there)


 * 2. The person has to withdraw itself from the native country. So there also always has to be a physical move away from the native country. DrunkenGerman (talk) 18:02, 15 December 2015 (UTC)
 * Well, you just have to understand the definition of an expatriate. Being an expatriate of a certain country has nothing to do with your passport. Mahrez is actually a "France native footballer of (also) Algerian nationality". DrunkenGerman (talk) 18:15, 15 December 2015 (UTC)
 * You just would have to follow the definition of the word expatriate...that's not so complicated. I will start a discussion at WT:FOOTY at the weekend or so. DrunkenGerman (talk) 18:28, 15 December 2015 (UTC)

If you have the time
I wonder if you might keep an eye on Special:Contributions/86.139.26.109. I imagine it's editing logged out, or else someone who edits exactly like they do, i.e. the same can't be arsed approach to datestamps, using sources, or even adding 1 to a 2-digit number. thanks, Struway2 (talk) 22:28, 15 December 2015 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Mathew Crum


Hello, and welcome to Wikipedia. This is a notice to inform you that a tag has been placed on Mathew Crum requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section A1 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because it is a very short article providing little or no context to the reader. Please see Wikipedia:Stub for our minimum information standards for short articles. Also please note that articles must be on notable subjects and should provide references to reliable sources that verify their content.

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Seems the speedy has been declined but a quick google shows him as Matthew (2 'Ts') or Matt Crum; as here. Eagleash (talk) 05:35, 16 December 2015 (UTC)

Wardgattitriology
's latest IP address is 86.188.96.120. cheers, Struway2 (talk) 17:00, 19 December 2015 (UTC)

Season's Greetings
To You and Yours!

FWiW Bzuk (talk) 18:15, 20 December 2015 (UTC)

Wishing you all the best . ..
. . . during the Christmas holidays, GS, for you and yours. Here's a little British-American cross-cultural carol in the spirit of the season. Cheers. Dirtlawyer1 (talk) 23:18, 20 December 2015 (UTC)

Jordan Stewart (footballer born 1996) listed at Redirects for discussion
An editor has asked for a discussion to address the redirect Jordan Stewart (footballer born 1996). Since you had some involvement with the Jordan Stewart (footballer born 1996) redirect, you might want to participate in the redirect discussion if you have not already done so. JMHamo (talk) 14:45, 22 December 2015 (UTC)

2015 NRL season
Hi GS, can you have a look at recent edits by an IP at this article, reinserting a tagged table without any evidence of its notability. Thanks. Eldumpo (talk) 08:36, 23 December 2015 (UTC)

Andrés Perez
Hi GiantSnowman, you leave me an message on my talk page on 20 November 2015 about an edit that was undone because "it did not appear constructive". I just want to let you know that Andrés Perez retired from the Puerto Rican national football team on November 2015 Noxiuzpr (talk) 09:16, 23 December 2015 (UTC)

Protection request
Hi, Merry Christmas! I'm afraid you were the last admin to make an edit on my watchlist - could you have a look at this protection request when you have a mo? Cheers --  samtar whisper 16:05, 24 December 2015 (UTC)

Seasons Greetings
Just realised I hadn't given you one of these beautiful cards (*cough*) Thanks for jumping on that request, and have a wonderful New Years! -- samtar whisper 16:28, 24 December 2015 (UTC)

NSPORTS changes
FYI:  Dirtlawyer1 (talk) 19:20, 26 December 2015 (UTC)

Vandalism?
All the edits I did have been confirmed by sources!--93.56.78.42 (talk) 20:31, 27 December 2015 (UTC)

Sean Barron (footballer)
Hi GS, could you please delete this expired BLPPROD Sean Barron (footballer) when you get a chance. Thanks, JMHamo (talk) 10:09, 29 December 2015 (UTC)

Wardgattitriology
When returned from their block, I checked some of their next edits, corrected a few, but they seemed to be taking it more seriously. But since then, while I haven't been here much, they're back to the usual inaccuracies and sloppiness, and there are far too many to check and correct. E.g.
 * at Nathan Redmond, 2015/16 row is one too few league matches and the FA Cup match should be League Cup;
 * at Andy Carroll, up-to-date infobox but with a timestamp during the last game (and before Mr Carroll came on to score the winner);
 * at Óscar de Marcos, league stats updated correctly, albeit only up to 7 December rather than to date, but in the career stats, they've included a cup game played on 16 December;

etc etc That last sort of "mistake" might strike someone less trusting than myself as wilful. cheers, Struway2 (talk) 12:12, 29 December 2015 (UTC)

Dave Kevan
Thanks for adding the source in! Not the best at inserting references :) Telfordbuck (talk) 20:27, 29 December 2015 (UTC)

History merge request
Hi GS. Seasons greetings. I noticed Yōsuke Sakamoto and Yosuke Sakamoto, which appear to warrant a history merge, additionally, the article and talk pages are at different variants, so please could you take care of that too. Thanks, C<span style="color: #6A5ACD; text-decoration: inherit; -moz-text-decoration-color: #6A5ACD; text-decoration-color: #6A5ACD;">679 09:03, 31 December 2015 (UTC)
 * Not possible to move either page to a uniform situation without admin rights. C<span style="color: #6A5ACD; text-decoration: inherit; -moz-text-decoration-color: #6A5ACD; text-decoration-color: #6A5ACD;">679 09:33, 31 December 2015 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Henry Olmino


A tag has been placed on Henry Olmino requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section A7 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the article appears to be about a band or musician, but it does not credibly indicate how or why the subject is important or significant: that is, why an article about that subject should be included in an encyclopedia. Under the criteria for speedy deletion, such articles may be deleted at any time. Please read more about what is generally accepted as notable.

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Speedy deletion nomination of James Glayat


A tag has been placed on James Glayat requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section A7 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the article appears to be about a band or musician, but it does not credibly indicate how or why the subject is important or significant: that is, why an article about that subject should be included in an encyclopedia. Under the criteria for speedy deletion, such articles may be deleted at any time. Please read more about what is generally accepted as notable.

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