User talk:GiantSnowman/2019

Happy new year!
Happy New Year! Hello GiantSnowman: Thanks for all of your contributions to Wikipedia, and have a great New Year! Cheers, Hhkohh (talk) 15:50, 1 January 2019 (UTC) Send New Year cheer by adding {{subst:Happy New Year snowman}} to people's talk pages with a friendly message.

2A02:C7F:9E12:8F00:0:0:0:0/64
Can we please explain which block this user is evading, and any evidence you may have to support that? Thank you &mdash; Martin (MSGJ · talk) 11:06, 3 January 2019 (UTC)
 * IP range used by who was blocked by . GiantSnowman 11:11, 3 January 2019 (UTC)
 * (Keeping discussion in one place.) Thanks, and I found the AN post. But I asked for any evidence you may have to that these are operated for the same person. And I see was asking for similar at AN. &mdash; Martin (MSGJ · talk) 11:13, 3 January 2019 (UTC)
 * As I explained at the ARBCOM talk page, it's a clear case of DUCK - same editing pattern, same articles, same content. See also here where agreed it is a sock. GiantSnowman 11:18, 3 January 2019 (UTC)
 * I see no agreement from SilkTork that it was a sock in that discussion. Only that they note that the user is blocked as a suspected sock. A note and block that YOU made. You're basically saying that because someone saw that you blocked them based on personal suspicion, that they therefor agree with your suspicion. That's simply not how that works. You may feel it's a clear case of duck, but not only is that not a policy, it's not even a guideline. It's an essay which holds no basis in policy. But even if it was a clear case of duck, that doesn't grant you the discretionary sanction rights. You still need some actual evidence to back up your claim that they're a sock. Otherwise we'd be a complete wild west where anyone could block anyone and simply claim that they're a sock of any randomly blocked editor they choose. Considering you recently blocked an IP, for an edit that was not only correct but also sourced, and you then reverted to the incorrect stats, I'd also like to see your evidence that this range here is really used by this Woking123 because that range is not among the confirmed socks of that account, nor is any other IP for that matter.84.219.252.47 (talk) 06:29, 4 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Hi there mystery IP - see the comment that "I'm OK with the revert and block of 2a02:c7f:9e12:8f00:6c51:14d8:1b23:f46c as they made the same edit on the article as User:Cnomis who is blocked as a sock of User:Woking123". If you want policy, see WP:BLOCKEVASION - "Anyone is free to revert any edits made in violation of a block, without giving any further reason and without regard to the three-revert rule". There is no obligation to revert, but many do so, including me. GiantSnowman 08:22, 4 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Again, that's not agreeing with the supposition that they're a sock, it's simply noting that they are indeed blocked. It may be that they do agree, but that's not quite what they are saying. That they are fine with blocking someone based on doing the same edit as someone blocked does not necessarily mean that they think that they're the same person as they could be fine with doing so for any number of reasons. If the edit in question is correct (and given recent history, there's actually quite good odds of that being the case), plenty of others will make the same edit. Claiming that because someone makes the same edit as another user is evidence in and off itself, of those being the same user, is absurd and someone you don't actually believe as evidenced by that you've blocked users making correct and sourced edits for "vandalism" (see my comments on the evidence talkpage for the arbcom case). You've essentially put several articles in a state of being impossible to correct now because you believe any correction to what the source is currently saying, to being done by a sock, simply based on that they are making "the same edit", which is obvious that they would since the edit was correct, so anyone else correcting it would obviously be the same. So to call on blockevasion as the policy for which to block, is simply not not correct here, because you were not asked under what policy you issued the block, we asked you what evidence you based your claim that they are the same user on, a claim you still have provided no evidence for and if you're unable to back up, I might point out that WP:ASPERSIONS exist. So to reiterate, please, what evidence are you basing the claim that they are the same person on? That they are making the same edit, is very VERY insufficient. Especially considering WP:AGF also exist. 84.219.252.47 (talk) 23:42, 4 January 2019 (UTC)

DYK for Michael McComie
Alex Shih (talk) 00:01, 5 January 2019 (UTC)

MfD nomination of User:GiantSnowman/Will Jaaskelainen
User:GiantSnowman/Will Jaaskelainen, a page which you created or substantially contributed to, has been nominated for deletion. Your opinions on the matter are welcome; you may participate in the discussion by adding your comments at Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/User:GiantSnowman/Will Jaaskelainen and please be sure to sign your comments with four tildes ( ~ ). You are free to edit the content of User:GiantSnowman/Will Jaaskelainen during the discussion but should not remove the miscellany for deletion template from the top of the page; such a removal will not end the deletion discussion. Thank you. Hhkohh (talk) 15:16, 5 January 2019 (UTC)

MfD nomination of User:GiantSnowman/Jayden Reid
User:GiantSnowman/Jayden Reid, a page which you created or substantially contributed to, has been nominated for deletion. Your opinions on the matter are welcome; you may participate in the discussion by adding your comments at Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/User:GiantSnowman/Jayden Reid and please be sure to sign your comments with four tildes ( ~ ). You are free to edit the content of User:GiantSnowman/Jayden Reid during the discussion but should not remove the miscellany for deletion template from the top of the page; such a removal will not end the deletion discussion. Thank you. Hhkohh (talk) 15:17, 5 January 2019 (UTC)

MfD nomination of User:GiantSnowman/Bailey Vose
User:GiantSnowman/Bailey Vose, a page which you created or substantially contributed to, has been nominated for deletion. Your opinions on the matter are welcome; you may participate in the discussion by adding your comments at Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/User:GiantSnowman/Bailey Vose and please be sure to sign your comments with four tildes ( ~ ). You are free to edit the content of User:GiantSnowman/Bailey Vose during the discussion but should not remove the miscellany for deletion template from the top of the page; such a removal will not end the deletion discussion. Thank you. Hhkohh (talk) 15:18, 5 January 2019 (UTC)

The ArbCom case
These are just my personal views and obviously I'm not basing it on any investigative assessment of the issue. I just feel it's unfortunate that when an issue could have been sorted out with a reinforced commitment from you, a few editors still find the need to ensure that you're hauled up to the village centre and made to undergo what you're undergoing – all past contributions on one side. Anyway, what I've seen of your work has been commendable. My best wishes to you for the new year, Lourdes   02:56, 6 January 2019 (UTC)

Deleted Edit
Hello! A while ago you deleted one of my edits because you thought it was intended as a test. I did intend it as a real edit and provided a rational for it. I understand there might be other issues with that edit, for instance it might not reflect consensus. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 李艾连 (talk • contribs) 20:36, 6 January 2019 (UTC)

Braakensiek
We have many articles on notable people that need improvement. Braakensiek had been notable since the 1990s and has a whopping 1,221 newspaper hits in Factiva. Whacking a "notability" tag on the article of a recently deceased person at a time when their death is international news and the article is receiving maximum attention is highly distasteful. The Drover&#39;s Wife (talk) 11:38, 7 January 2019 (UTC)


 * Her notability is indisputable in this case, as I just demonstrated with the amount of newspaper citations. It's one thing, if you're intent on marking your scent on the article, to tag it for references or some sort of specific improvement - it's another to tag a person that you know, or should know if you'd done a basic Google, is notable with a "this person may not be notable tag" at a time when their article is the subject of international interest and media coverage due to their death. I'm not your cleanup crew - if you want work done, ask nicely or do it yourself. The Drover&#39;s Wife (talk) 11:42, 7 January 2019 (UTC)

Lévy Madinda/external links in general
Good morning to you,

first of all apologies for not contacting you directly, even though i'll "defend myself" saying I did not write : (please see here https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Mattythewhite#Lévy_Madinda) to complain about you or anything, merely seeking another opinion. As you see, he totally disagrees with the removal of the external links (this subject has played several years in Spain and the first three links are from that country, if you discount FUTBOLME.com the other too - especially BDFUTBOL.com, which is 100% reliable for us - contain a lot of info and stats).

I also feel the choice of infobox outline you prefer is more difficult to work with when you want to edit/alter, but Matty says they both produce the same output so i'll have to respect that and thus left it be.

Attentively, sorry for any inconvenience (again, my summary was not all it could be even though it was not aggressive per se) and happy 2019 (note: should you choose to reply, please do so at Matty to keep the exchange "compact") --Quite A Character (talk) 11:51, 7 January 2019 (UTC)


 * (per part of your last input at Matty's) Correct, I did not originally ping you (and again I apologise, cannot stress it enough), I wrote you a direct message in your page today. Same thing, no (does not excuse for the tardiness, but somehow makes up for it)? --Quite A Character (talk) 13:29, 7 January 2019 (UTC)

I see, thanks for explaining and clearing the mess (I created). Won't happen again :) --Quite A Character (talk) 13:52, 7 January 2019 (UTC)

Reverted edit to Jamille Matt
Hi, I am wondering why my edit was considered 'not needed'? This player scoring in an extremely famous victory for his club is surely notable enough to be included in his article? MotorsportFan2012 (talk) 15:19, 7 January 2019 (UTC)

You still haven't really sufficiently addressed why it wasn't notable enough to be included in the article. This was a major victory for a League Two club over a Premier League opponent who were English champions only a few years ago. Without Matt's goal, the result wouldn't exist. This is undoubtedly a notable moment in this player's career and I think his article would benefit from having it included for future reference. I've seen plenty of other articles on players in which individual goals in regular league games are included. There is only information of one other goal on the article for Matt during his time at Newport County, so there's no risk of the article going down a slippery slope of listing every goal he has scored. The other goalscorer for Newport in the match, Pádraig Amond, has an individual goal in the FA Cup last season against Tottenham included, will that also be removed?MotorsportFan2012 (talk) 17:06, 7 January 2019 (UTC)

Please do not move content-dispute stuff from ANI to the help desk.
The Help desk is for help with using or editing Wikipedia. When there is a content dispute, it belongs on the article's talk page. All we can do at the help desk is to tell the user to go to the talk page, as that is the "help" we give to users involved in a content dispute. If the dispute gets deeper than that, we point the user to WP:DISPUTE, which can eventually getall the way up to ANI, so moving back from ANI to the help desk is basically circular. -Arch dude (talk) 19:25, 7 January 2019 (UTC)

DYK for 1971 Women's World Cup
– Amakuru (talk) 00:02, 8 January 2019 (UTC)

Histmerge
Could you histmerge User:Govvy/George Marsh with George Marsh (footballer, born 1998) for me please, be much appreciated, cheers. Govvy (talk) 15:18, 9 January 2019 (UTC)


 * Cheers, thank you. Govvy (talk) 15:40, 9 January 2019 (UTC)


 * Quick question, George Marsh is dis-page, should George Marsh (footballer) on it be renamed to the year of birth? Govvy (talk) 15:46, 9 January 2019 (UTC)

January 2019
Thank you for your message about Riyad Mahrez. Regards. --Fayçal.09 (talk) 17:14, 9 January 2019 (UTC)

Hey
Just a note to say that your final post in the evidence phase was courageous, humble and becoming. We've not always agreed on everything, but there is much to admire about you. Whatever the outcome of the case, I wish you good luck in life and I do hope you'll stick around. We need good people and you're one of them. --Dweller (talk) Become old fashioned! 22:10, 9 January 2019 (UTC)

Ronaldito sockpuppet
The user is back at it.



These IP addresses are also making similar edits but I don't know if they are related to Ronalditos.



 GoPurple 'n  Gold24  06:31, 11 January 2019 (UTC)
 * , See Hhkohh (talk) 07:10, 11 January 2019 (UTC)
 * And Hhkohh (talk) 07:19, 11 January 2019 (UTC)
 * I'll take a look very shortly. GiantSnowman 16:13, 11 January 2019 (UTC)
 * I've reverted and blocked the 189.139 IPs as they match IP range of known socks. I've not dealt with 177.228 (which geolocates to a different Mexican city than 189.139) or 2605:6001 (which geolocates to a different country, USA!). Not enough for me to go on. GiantSnowman 17:15, 11 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Wow, sounds great and thanks Hhkohh (talk) 01:01, 12 January 2019 (UTC)

Editing restrictions
Hello GiantSnowman. I would like to reiterate that I fully support any formal editing restrictions you mentioned you were interested in implementing. I sincerely believed I was following Tony’s interpretation which specified no t-bans, so long as my behavior was not “controversial” (disruptive). I was wrong, I understand how some think I am gaming the system, and it reflects poorly upon myself. Despite what has been said, I am not “self-destructing” and the community’s trust is important to me. I hope the restrictions, whatever they may be, are indefinite, and that I may show how easy it is for me to meet their expectations.TheGracefulSlick (talk) 18:32, 13 January 2019 (UTC)

Jake Charles
Hi there, I want to update Jake Charles's stats, he has 6 goals in 13 league games for Stafford, but the club do not have a stats page so would I have to individually reference each match report separately? What would you suggest? Cam (talk) 18:49, 13 January 2019 (UTC)
 * You may have missed it but I responded to this query on my talk page. Mattythewhite (talk) 21:32, 13 January 2019 (UTC)

Adri Rodrígues
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adri_Rodr%C3%ADgues Adrián Rodrígues Gonçalves is a Portuguese name. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.47.158.59 (talk) 20:28, 14 January 2019 (UTC)

English Border Front
Are redirects allowed protection locks? Govvy (talk) 23:32, 14 January 2019 (UTC)

Tom Cleverley
The evidence that he's from Basingstoke is that he was born in Basingstoke. – PeeJay 16:12, 15 January 2019 (UTC)
 * I'm not sure how relevant that is, especially when I would put those people in the "People from Chester" category if we had no other info about their early lives. In Tom Cleverley's case, yes, we know he moved to Bradford early enough to go to the Hanson School at age 11 (at the earliest), but what about the earlier years of his life? – PeeJay 16:52, 15 January 2019 (UTC)

Directors in Football article
Hi, GS? I have a question. Category:Manchester United F.C. directors and chairmen and Category:Directors of football clubs in England, In this category, What is the meaning of director?
 * (1) Corporate directors / Member of Board of directors
 * (2) Director of football
 * (3) Both

I think that this category means (1) Corporate directors /  Member of Board of directors. Is it right? Footwiks (talk) 05:17, 19 January 2019 (UTC)


 * Thanks for prompt reply. I have one more question! What is the exact range of Category:Manchester United F.C. non-playing staff?

I think that range is (1) Is it right?

(1) Not including: corporate directors, front office staff. Including: All coaching staff (except manager), All support staff (kit man, masseur, team doctor and so on), All performance staff (scout, director of football, strategy analyst)

(2) Literally non-playing staff - All personnel except players.

This category:, It is very difficult to translate and create in Korean wikipedia. Footwiks (talk) 08:15, 20 January 2019 (UTC)

AWB for inconsequential edits
Please don't use AWB for inconsequential edits like this one, where you change one accepted parameter for another which generates exactly the same result. This violates WP:AWB rule of use #4. Edits like this one have the same problem. Fram (talk) 22:25, 20 January 2019 (UTC)

Removing unsourced heights from footballer infoboxes
Hello. When you do, please could you note in your edit summary that you've done so. "Clean up" and marking as minor edit doesn't cover it. Thanks, Struway2 (talk) 12:21, 22 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Thanks. FYI, the reasons for my suggestion that cleanup/minor didn't cover it include:
 * because WP:BURDEN says "When tagging or removing material for lacking an inline citation, please state your concern that it may not be possible to find a published reliable source for the content, and therefore it may not be verifiable" (the associated footnote goes into more detail); and
 * because it's helpful to editors on whose watchlists the articles appear if we're explicit about what we're doing, so they can more easily spot edits that might need action on their part. cheers, Struway2 (talk) 12:43, 22 January 2019 (UTC)

Ronalditos sockpuppet
Has been very active lately.



 GoPurple 'n  Gold24  07:01, 25 January 2019 (UTC)
 * ✅, thanks. GiantSnowman 08:24, 25 January 2019 (UTC)

Can you help?
A new user has taken the name User:Daemonic Kangaroo1 and sent me an abusive message. Can you get him/her blocked? Thanks & best wishes. Daemonickangaroo2018 (talk) 13:20, 25 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the speedy response and action. Daemonickangaroo2018 (talk) 13:35, 25 January 2019 (UTC) (David)

Re: Jimmy Millar
When moving a page from a "Foo (disambiguation)" title to the "Foo" title, please leave the "Foo (disambiguation)" redirect behind. These are needed for making intentional links to the disambiguation page, per WP:INTDABLINK. Cheers! bd2412 T 21:56, 28 January 2019 (UTC)

Thank you
... four your continous work of cleaning infoboxes up after me and others. Not too late for happy 2019, I hope. Hidden in the top link (see 12 January) is the ultimate guide to arbitration, in case you don't know. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:50, 31 January 2019 (UTC)

Matty Virtue

 * Fair enough - didn't know - seems a bit daft for someone who played for the club until he was 9, but whatever. I do have to say mind you, it would be a lot nicer in my occassional interactions with you if you could be a little more polite.  I'd take it personally but you do seem to be often as impolite and impatient with other people...  Zanoni (talk) 12:37, 1 February 2019 (UTC)

John
Not another John. Fair do mate. Give it up — Preceding unsigned comment added by 49.227.238.31 (talk) 05:40, 2 February 2019 (UTC)

Happy Adminship Anniversary
 Happy Adminship Anniversary! Have a very happy adminship anniversary on your special day! Best wishes, CAPTAIN RAJU (T) 01:27, 4 February 2019 (UTC)

Nomination of Cody Claver for deletion
A discussion is taking place as to whether the article Cody Claver is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The article will be discussed at Articles for deletion/Cody Claver until a consensus is reached, and anyone, including you, is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.

Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article. Levivich  17:54, 4 February 2019 (UTC)

YKWIM
Re: I think you meant "whilst reverting", not "whilst using rollback", at the end. At least, that's what the remedy's been trying (and catastrophically failing) to say. —Cryptic 11:38, 6 February 2019 (UTC)

Bobby Burns
I have a medal to prove it, there is no artcicles but the medals inscripted- for bobby burns — Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.0.212.185 (talk) 20:35, 6 February 2019 (UTC)

Gillingham Fc lover
I have noted your neutral, factual, and informative approach in this situation: User talk:Gillingham Fc lover. You have approached him twice to ask for sources, and provided links to our guidelines and policies, and then cautioned him that if he carries on he may be blocked. You have avoided templates, and remained calm and civil. To have challenged a new editor while under investigation for inappropriately challenging new editors takes some courage. You didn't shirk away from it, but dealt with it appropriately. SilkTork (talk) 10:03, 7 February 2019 (UTC)

Fodbold-fan
Given that you have blocked this user twice recently, and you are getting tetchy with them over the latest incident: User talk:Fodbold-fan, do you think this is one of those times when getting in someone else to look at it might be appropriate? SilkTork (talk) 10:07, 7 February 2019 (UTC)


 * If he'd have continued to not understand what I was trying to say then my next step would be to raise this at a wider forum - but I seem to have got through to him, as I've found no problems with any of his recent edits that have popped up on my watchlist. GiantSnowman 10:08, 7 February 2019 (UTC)


 * That's good. I can see that you have given him positive feedback on his recent editing. I think a number of us like to deal with matters ourselves (I do). And I think it can be tricky judging just when we need to step back a bit and have someone else take a look. I think that the moment we find ourselves getting irritated and typing out stuff like "And no, for the 100th time" and "If you're not competent to be editing then you shouldn't be editing" is perhaps the point at which we need to step back. To be honest, I have typed out stuff like that hundreds of times. But before clicking "Publish changes" I pause, then start to rewrite it. And maybe rewrite it some more. If I can't get it down to something neutral, then I walk away. We can't always control our irritation, but the nature of the internet does give us the opportunity to pause before saying something in public that we may later regret. SilkTork (talk) 10:26, 7 February 2019 (UTC)

Hello
If you want to express your opinion about this move -> Talk:F.C. Verbroedering Dender Eendracht Hekelgem, you're welcome. Rhinen (talk)

Hiding rollback link
On the proposed decision talk page, Cryptic provided a link to which describes the CSS entries required to hide the rollback link. isaacl (talk) 15:26, 8 February 2019 (UTC)

Uniformity with football/soccer for South Africa
At Talk:South Africa national football team, you mentioned having uniformity for using 'football' or 'soccer' relating to South Africa. As the discussion closed as do not move, I was wondering how to proceed. Back in the April discussion, I made a list of pages which would need to be moved. The are 103 pages with 'soccer' in the title (14 articles, 88 categories, 1 template). Should another move discussion be opened, for instance at Soccer in South Africa? And should the discussion include all 14 aforementioned articles? (Then if the discussion decides to use 'football', the categories can be moved via WP:CFDS?). Thanks, S.A. Julio (talk) 23:53, 9 February 2019 (UTC)

Julia Grant (trans woman) listed at Redirects for discussion
An editor has asked for a discussion to address the redirect Julia Grant (trans woman). Since you had some involvement with the Julia Grant (trans woman) redirect, you might want to participate in the redirect discussion if you have not already done so. I have made this request as the subject, Julia Grant, has her own Wikipedia article, so I feel this redirect is unnecessary duplication. TrottieTrue (talk) 02:08, 10 February 2019 (UTC)

Panagiotis Tsalouchidis
I thought I had undertaken the improvements required which would suffice to remove valid maintenance tags from the article. My apologies. Tempo21 (talk) 10:09, 10 February 2019 (UTC)

Precious anniversary
--Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:17, 10 February 2019 (UTC)

ANI thread for incident you involved (people you warned)
There is currently a discussion at Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. The thread is User:0716pyhao as SPA for making controversial move without discussion. Matthew hk (talk) 15:11, 10 February 2019 (UTC)

Arbitration/Requests/Case/GiantSnowman closed
An arbitration case regarding has now closed, and the final decision is available at the link above. The following remedy has been enacted:

For the Arbitration Committee, Bradv 🍁  18:38, 10 February 2019 (UTC)
 * Discuss this at: Wikipedia talk:Arbitration Committee/Noticeboard
 * Thanks to everyone for their comment. GiantSnowman 08:39, 11 February 2019 (UTC)

Zak Dearnley
Hello! Could you explain your edits on the Zak Dearnley article clearer please? I'm always learning so it would be helpful to explain the changes, otherwise I won't know what to improve on etc.

→ Stats. The statistics were sourced by Soccerway, as was the fact Dearnley was on the bench for Man. United in 2016-17. Yet were removed by you? Any reason, or was it a mistake like the absence of the "Premier League" row in the statistics table ([diff]). Any difference for using Soccerway or Soccerbase?

→ Infobox spacing. I've seen a few editors change it the way you did, but have also seen other editors do it the way it was pre-your edits. Is there an "official" way to do it? Would be helpful to know.

→ Reflist. Similar to above, is "Reflist" intended to be used over "Reflist|30em"?

Thanks. R96Skinner (talk) 14:18, 11 February 2019 (UTC)
 * Understood. I've always found Soccerway more informative than Soccerbase but if Soccerbase is the one to be used for EFL players then fair enough, I will remember that. How about the infobox spacing [diff]? Is there a guideline behind it or is it be spaced like that for a certain reason? R96Skinner (talk) 14:46, 11 February 2019 (UTC)
 * Ha, that was pretty obvious. Not entirely sure how I started doing it the other way. Anyway, thanks! R96Skinner (talk) 14:52, 11 February 2019 (UTC)

Nicknames
Hi, I saw you removing nicknames a few times already, but I think you don't look at the right MOS page for this. E.g. here, you link to WP:MOSNICKNAME, but that link is about article titles, not about lead sections. The link you want is MOS:NICKNAME (yeah, it is confusing), which deals with nicknames in the first sentence of an article. This states

"If a person is known by a nickname used in lieu of or in addition to a given name, and it is not a common hypocorism[d] of one of their names, or a professional alias, it is usually presented between double quotation marks following the last given name or initial; the quotation marks are not put in lead-section boldface. Example:

Bunny Berigan has: Roland Bernard "Bunny" Berigan."

It seems to me that the version of Aguero before your edit actually followed the MOS guidance quite closely, and your edit made the article less compliant, and less useful for many readers who might recognise him more easily by his shirt name than by his real name, but no longer find the shirt name in the lead. Fram (talk) 09:15, 12 February 2019 (UTC)

CITEVAR
Hey GS, re:, I'm not sure WP:CITEVAR means what you think it means. I'm pretty sure it doesn't trump MOS:ITALICTITLE. The Punch, as a newspaper, is a major work so should be italicised. Nzd  (talk)  14:23, 12 February 2019 (UTC)
 * Thanks. Out of interest, which bit of CITEVAR were you referring to? My reading of this (which could be wrong, of course), is that it relates to arbitrary changes to the citation style used within an article (the WP:CITESTYLE section above lists examples of the various citation styles, e.g. APA style, ASA style, etc.), or switching between e.g. template/non-template versions, language variations or date formats. The other bits you changed (which I have no issue with) seemed to be simply code tidying (other than the placement of the ref), so I'm unclear how CITEVAR comes into play here. FYI, I use the WebRef bookmarklet to generate web citations. The code outputs slightly differently (it puts the url at the end), but as the visible output is the same, I don't see this as an issue personally. Others are, of course, free to "fix" such things. Cheers, Nzd   (talk)  21:09, 12 February 2019 (UTC)
 * Thanks for that, I'd read the edit summary as implying that I'd somehow violated it. Might be worth asking the bookmarklet developer if they'll reorder the params. Cheers, Nzd   (talk)  12:50, 13 February 2019 (UTC)

Aaron Lewis (footballer)
Why did you remove from Aaron Lewis (footballer)? --Jax 0677 (talk) 14:00, 13 February 2019 (UTC)

Reply moved to user talk page
Per Disambiguation - "It is usually preferable not to add disambiguation links to a page whose name already clearly distinguishes itself from the generic term". Will anybody confuse the two (current) Aaron Lewises? Unlikely. GiantSnowman 14:14, 13 February 2019 (UTC)
 *  Reply - "If I left you a message: please answer on your talk page, linking to me, so I will be notified". --Jax 0677 (talk) 15:11, 13 February 2019 (UTC)

Mediation
Hi there GS,

please read this (see here https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Fodbold-fan#Pierre_Web%C3%B3) and drop your two cents there if you want. I don't think this user wants to engage in conversation with me all that much (at least without it getting all "frantic"), and i'll admit i'm not the best handling those interactions myself.

I feel i'm in the right in Mr. Webó's case, no? The new Uruguayan Primera División season has not even started, so there was no status to be updated from SOCCERWAY.com.

Attentively --Quite A Character (talk) 16:53, 13 February 2019 (UTC)


 * Thanks for the (additional) inputs, me i have now added a newspaper article that says exactly what you wrote (two matches, said article also adds the "mileage"), so SW can rest as an external link.

Nice teamwork, cheers! --Quite A Character (talk) 17:08, 13 February 2019 (UTC)

User:Ronalditos
The user has been doing the same type of edits again. The user also edited a user's talk page, I don't know if that belong to Ronalditos but I just wanted to point that out. The user has created and edits very similar articles that Ronalditos has in the past.



 GoPurple 'n  Gold24  06:50, 14 February 2019 (UTC)
 * all reverted and blocked. I don't think the registered account is the same, but if you disagree please feel free to raise at WP:SPI. GiantSnowman 08:56, 14 February 2019 (UTC)

Kouch Dani
Hello. I attempted to move Kouch Dani (footballer) to Kouch Dani but I see that you have protected the base name title. You may wish to move or delete the article as appropriate. Certes (talk) 11:56, 15 February 2019 (UTC)
 * Unless there's something I'm missing, shouldn't this be moved to Dani Kouch? Both of the current refs (Soccerway and NFT) have Dani as his first name. See also this article, as well as various other stat sites. Nzd   (talk)  13:41, 15 February 2019 (UTC)
 * probably worth a WP:RM? I think his Western name order would be 'Dani Kouch', but his Eastern name order would be 'Kouch Dani'. Which do we use? GiantSnowman 14:48, 15 February 2019 (UTC)
 * Good question. I just retained the word order used in the existing title, lead, previous deleted articles and most incoming links.  The Cambodia wikiproject seems to be inactive but WT:Anthroponymy may be able to help. Certes (talk) 00:22, 16 February 2019 (UTC)
 * RM created. Nzd   (talk)  02:11, 16 February 2019 (UTC)
 * I missed the suggestion about WP:APO before. I've just dropped a note on the talk page. Thanks, Nzd   (talk)  11:18, 18 February 2019 (UTC)

Israeli footballers
Would it be possible to have them (Dor Elo, Omri Glazer, Omer Danino, Oren Biton, Maor Kandil) restored in my userspace? Would be appreciated, S.A. Julio (talk) 19:12, 17 February 2019 (UTC)
 * Great, thanks! Also, would it be possible to move User:S.A. Julio/Michael Crowe to Michael Crowe (footballer)? The page is currently SALTed, but the player has now appeared in the FA Cup against another team in a FPL, therefore meeting NFOOTY. Thanks, S.A. Julio (talk) 15:28, 18 February 2019 (UTC)

Christopher Carrick
Hi GS, I realise this was a really long time ago, but can I just check something related to please? The edit added 0's to the Bradford City stats, with the summary never played a 1st team League or Cup game for Bradford City (per Terry Frost's 1988 book. Does this mean that he appears in the book, but doesn't have any stats, or that he doesn't appear in the book? I ask because Joyce has him down as playing for Bradford Park Avenue, not Bradford City. (FYI: ). Thanks, Nzd   (talk)  09:11, 18 February 2019 (UTC)
 * I'll check again tonight. GiantSnowman 09:53, 18 February 2019 (UTC)
 * Carrick is not listed in the A-Z of City players to make a first-team appearance (page 380 of the Frost book covers Bookman to Conlin). GiantSnowman 16:28, 18 February 2019 (UTC)
 * Thanks, Just off out but I'll change this per Joyce when I get back. It wouldn't be the first time the West Ham Who's Who book has made a silly mistake like that.  Nzd   (talk)  16:48, 18 February 2019 (UTC)
 * If the club was referred to just as 'Bradford' at some point then I imagine that it will have been misinterpreted as Bradford City (being the bigger club) even though, traditionally, 'Bradford' referred to 'Park Avenue' - 'City' was always 'City'. GiantSnowman 16:51, 18 February 2019 (UTC)

Northern Ireland women's national football team etc
Hi GiantSnowman

Thanks for your support at WP:CFD 2019 February 20#Association_football_in_Northern_Ireland, and for the listing at WP:FOOTY.

In looking for pages to add to that nom, I found Category:Northern Ireland women's national football team+subcats and its head article Northern Ireland women's national football team+spin-off pages, plus Category:Northern Ireland national football team+subcats and its head article Northern Ireland national football team+spin-off pages

Similarly Category:Republic of Ireland women's national football team+subcats / article:Republic of Ireland women's national football team, Category:Republic of Ireland national football team+subcats / article:Republic of Ireland national football team.

I omitted them from the nom because a) I had done enough cats and was tired, and b) I reckoned they might need more thought, and c) any renamings should probably tart as WP:RM discussions on the head articles.

Having thought a bit more, my current tentative conclusion is to leave them all as they are, because "Northern Ireland women's national football team" and "Republic of Ireland national football team" appear to be unambiguous terms..

in the case of national football teams in Ireland, I don't think there is any ambiguity with Gaelic football. The Gaelic Athletic Association (GAA)'s major competitive structures are primarily based on counties. Inter-provincial GAA competitions are the biggest geographical units for competition, but nowhere near as significant as the inter-county competitions. The game at its higher levels is so heavily dominated by Ireland that inter-provincial competitions are not even contested by British GAA (the only GAA provincial council of outside Ireland). So despite the size of the Irish diaspora, there is no national Gaelic football team in Ireland, 'cos there are no opponents.

What do you think? -- Brown HairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 12:47, 20 February 2019 (UTC)

Jhai Singh Dhillon (Deleted page)
Hi, I am trying to work out why the article “Jhai Singh Dhillon” was deleted a couple of years ago please?

Is there a way for it to be re-uploaded and we can amend anything that caused it to be deleted, so that it is okay with you?

Sorry I didn’t realise there was anything wrong with it, otherwise I would have changed it earlier.

Apologies for the inconvenience and thanks in advance for your help. Wikipagecreator101 (talk) 21:57, 21 February 2019 (UTC)

Okay if we can have it restored, that would be great. Thank you. Then can we discuss how to keep it from being deleted and which things need amending to keep it active please? Thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by Wikipagecreator101 (talk • contribs) 12:08, 22 February 2019 (UTC)

Template:1893–94 Scottish Division One table
Hi GS, this template shows 'updated to matches played on unknown' underneath the table. This is unhelpful when you have a table that is complete, and looks messy. However, when I try and edit the template I can see no text referring to this, in order that I can delete it. Is there something hidden in the code do you know? Regards. Eldumpo (talk) 10:22, 25 February 2019 (UTC)

DYK for Neil Dewsnip
— Maile (talk) 12:02, 28 February 2019 (UTC)

Happy First Edit Day!
 Happy First Edit Day! Have a very happy first edit anniversary! From the Birthday Committee, CAPTAIN RAJU (T) 13:18, 28 February 2019 (UTC)

Template:Did you know nominations/ASV Mk. II radar
GiantSnowman, after you get back, can you please check your review here, where the nominator has provided the QPQ you requested. Many thanks, and happy first-edit anniversary! BlueMoonset (talk) 17:46, 28 February 2019 (UTC)

Arbitration/Requests/Enforcement
I have reported some of your recent activities.  Uninvited Company 00:21, 1 March 2019 (UTC)

Nomination of Jordan Archer (forward, born 1993) for deletion
A discussion is taking place as to whether the article Jordan Archer (forward, born 1993) is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The article will be discussed at Articles for deletion/Jordan Archer (forward, born 1993) until a consensus is reached, and anyone, including you, is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.

Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article. Spike &#39;em (talk) 23:22, 3 March 2019 (UTC)

Jordan Archer apology
I'm afraid I confused you by writing Bury instead of Southport when I asked my question about him qualifying for an article. Clumsy mistake. Sorry for causing you inconvenience. All the best. No Great Shaker (talk) 06:47, 4 March 2019 (UTC)

User:Govvy/Sandbox
Hiya GS, just having a look at your drafts, I noticed you have Jaden Brown and Luke O'Reilly there, just wanted to let you know I also had those players in my draft space also. cheers. Govvy (talk) 12:28, 4 March 2019 (UTC)

WP:AIV
Could you possibly check this out? There seems to be a large backlog there right now. SemiHypercube 13:47, 4 March 2019 (UTC)

John Murphy
Sure, I will take a look when I get the chance. Thanks.--Add92 (talk) 21:42, 4 March 2019 (UTC)

Permissions for uploading club crests
I've heard a rumour that one of the football clubs in Gibraltar is going to change their name/colours/etc. at the end of the season when the two leagues merge into one 17 team division. If this happens and I need to upload a new club crest, what permissions/licenses should I ask the chairman of the club to put on the badge so I can upload it to Wikimedia for use on their Wikipedia article (e.g. Fair Use etc.)? Or would confirmation via WhatsApp be enough of a confirmation? I just want to be sure so I don't get into trouble for uploading a club badge without the right permissions. VampireKilla (talk) 07:37, 6 March 2019 (UTC)

Re. Steve Hunt
Hi. Thanks for help/advice re. my addition to Steve Hunt (footballer) article. All I added was a mention/link that he'd been manager of Cowes Sports. Is it usual to have to add a reference for such a small change? Thanks. --Twirl73 (talk) 22:57, 7 March 2019 (UTC)

DYK for Leon de Kogel
&mdash; Amakuru (talk) 12:02, 9 March 2019 (UTC)

Will Vaulks
Hi GS, Loads of IPs are trying to change the Will Vaulks lede from English professional footballer to either Welsh professional footballer or even Welsh international footballer, and changing his flag in Rotherham United F.C. squad list, all based on his recent call-up to the Welsh national squad. Am I right in thinking we stick with birth nationality until the player is capped? And (less contentiously) they are not an international footballer until they are capped? If I am right, is this worthy of semi protection until either he gets a cap or the current international period has passed? I don't want to have to revert anymore, so if I'm in the wrong please tell me! Cheers, Gricehead (talk) 13:56, 12 March 2019 (UTC)


 * Thanks for the advice, and eminently sensible edit. RFPP logged. Cheers, Gricehead (talk) 14:12, 12 March 2019 (UTC)

DG Mester
Afternon GS. The user DG mester has been making disruptive edits since September 2018, repeatedly removing references to the club country in the lead. Occasionally an edit is actually correct, piping association football in a few instances. On his talk page you will see numerous warnings, at which point they tend to go on an edit hiatus only to return to their favourite topics later and try the same thing again. At least now they are using edit summaries, and in Wayne Rooney's case are actually using the Talk Page. The strange thing is, on other edits they are actually inserting the club country into the lede and have been reverting their own edits yesterday only to start new ones today. So, not sure what their motivation is. Anyway, hoping you could add user to your busy list of people to have a word with. Ta. Koncorde (talk) 12:22, 13 March 2019 (UTC)
 * Behaviour is continuing today. Lots of removal of references to countries, cities, or location specific information. Has been warned again by another admin. Koncorde (talk) 16:08, 13 March 2019 (UTC)
 * Got himself a 24 hour ban anyway, and I have repaired the obvious things where it looked like he was just goofing. Koncorde (talk) 16:21, 13 March 2019 (UTC)

DYK for Eduardo Bauzá
&mdash; Amakuru (talk) 12:02, 14 March 2019 (UTC)

Category:Milwaukee Wave players
First time I'd done a WP:CFD, so please let me know if it's not done right.

Categories for discussion/Log/2019 March 14. American Money (talk) 17:03, 14 March 2019 (UTC)

Nomination of Mary Richardson Kennedy for deletion
A discussion is taking place as to whether the article Mary Richardson Kennedy is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The article will be discussed at Articles for deletion/Mary Richardson Kennedy until a consensus is reached, and anyone, including you, is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.

Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article.  Onel 5969  TT me</i> 16:45, 18 March 2019 (UTC)

CU question
To answer your question from Sockpuppet investigations/Woking123, since the page got archived before I could, no CheckUser wouldn't tell us anything. The technical details viewable by CheckUsers are not tied directly to an account, but to individual edits or logged actions. 90 days after the edit was made most of the technical details, including the IP address, get deleted for privacy reasons. As I understand it, there is some residual information left over even after the 90 day limit, but it's not meaningful for SPI purposes. There are also rare cases where CU's will store the results of a check on a private wiki allowing for future checks past the 90 limit, but that's not applicable here. I hope that clears things up. Sir Sputnik (talk) 14:28, 19 March 2019 (UTC)

Abuse of editing by Coderdaddy1369
has repeatedly abused the editing and in spite of multiple warnings on the talk page, never responds. Keeps moving the page without consulting other editors in spite of warning. Coderzombie (talk) 12:34, 20 March 2019 (UTC)

thanks
thanks for plugging that IP spigot NewsAndEventsGuy (talk) 13:43, 20 March 2019 (UTC)

Brittany
OK no problem. Is now a good time to mention the contents of Category:Spanish footballers by autonomous community which led me to make the error with Brittany? Crowsus (talk) 15:04, 20 March 2019 (UTC)
 * Haha yup, could a bot be created for it tho? It could actually help in one area of interest for me, as the current Category:Basque footballers is a bit ambiguous, it should only really refer to the Basque Country (autonomous community) but some people have (innocently enough) linked to players from elsewhere in the Basque Country (greater region). Renaming the cat to Category:Basque (autonomous community) footballers would look a bit crap, but Category:Footballers from the Basque Country (autonomous community) is a bit better, and is consistent with the article name for the territory and would remove that ambiguity.
 * OK thanks, I might do that. Crowsus (talk) 15:20, 20 March 2019 (UTC)

Paul Hamilton(Footballer) listed at Redirects for discussion
An editor has asked for a discussion to address the redirect Paul Hamilton(Footballer). Since you had some involvement with the Paul Hamilton(Footballer) redirect, you might want to participate in the redirect discussion if you wish to do so. Headbomb {t · c · p · b} 22:25, 20 March 2019 (UTC)

John Kelly (footballer, born 1913)
Hello. I think the Frost book has confused the personal details of John Kelly (footballer, born 1913) with those of Jack Kelly (footballer). Both were at Leeds in 1935, as Joyce's book and ENFA will confirm, and they apparently were both born in 1913. But Jack Kelly is the one born in Hetton-le-Hole, whereas John was born in Sandbach: see Jack's profile and John's profile at Tony Hill's LUFC site. cheers, Struway2 (talk) 15:02, 21 March 2019 (UTC)
 * To be fair to Mr Frost, his research was done over 30 years ago, when it took rather more work to follow up a player's career than it does these days. cheers, Struway2 (talk) 15:10, 22 March 2019 (UTC)

NFT

 * Let me ask you this Mr. Snowman. Some of the more notable footballers such as Thomas Müller and Romelu Lukaku have unofficial goals according NFT, but they are still listed on their pages and in their caps and goals tally. So tell me why those goals and caps get to stay but any other player cannot have them listed.DasGermanMosesDasGermanMoses 20:36, 25 March 2019 (UTC) DasGermanMoses (talk) 22:52, 25 March 2019 (UTC)

Run out
Hi. This is already covered more succinctly under the "Modern interpretations of Run out of non-striker" heading. Per WP:BRD, please use the talkpage to discuss every single time this happens in non-international matches. Thanks.  Lugnuts  Fire Walk with Me 12:26, 28 March 2019 (UTC)

Family categories
Hello! I've noticed you create some family categories, e.g. Simeone family, and was wondering what the requirements are for them? I haven't seen a page which talks about family cats., so wanted to ask for clarification before creating any myself. R96Skinner (talk) 17:30, 2 April 2019 (UTC)

Lirak Hasani
!
 * First: Hasani was born in Cantley, England from Kosovo Albanian.
 * Second: On 23 March 2019, Hasani made his debut as a professional footballer in a 0–4 away defeat against Luton Town after coming on as a substitute at 72nd minute in place of Aaron Lewis.
 * Third: For the references in club statistics, I'm based in Wiki articles as Arijanet Muric.

2019 Q1 NFooty report and questions
Hi new friend :-) Since the first quarter of the year has closed, I thought I'd share with you my findings so far. This year to date, 85 footy biography AfDs have closed, a pace of 340 per year, or almost one per day. Of those 85 AfDs, 60 articles (70%) did not meet WP:NFOOTY. Of those 60, 56 (93%) did not meet GNG and were deleted. I think you'll agree those no-NFooty/no-GNG AfDs get about 3 !votes each on average, so with the nom, it's 4 editors performing a WP:BEFORE search for each AfD nom, which, for 60 AfDs, is 240 BEFORE searches performed so far this year for no-NFooty bios, a pace of 960 per year, in which 93% of the time the findings confirm that players who don't meet NFooty almost always lack significant coverage sufficient to meet GNG, are not notable, and won't survive AfD. If we didn't perform 240 BEFORE searches on non-notable subjects, how many new articles on actually notable subjects could we have created, or feature articles promoted, infobox stats updated, vandals reverted, etc.? On a scale of 1–10, how persuaded are you so far that this is a problem that needs addressing? Thanks for your answers; I promise I'll leave you alone until Q2. :-D Leviv&thinsp;<span style="display:inline-block;position:relative;transform:rotate(45deg);bottom:-.57em;">ich 01:27, 5 April 2019 (UTC)

Elias Sørensen
You reverted Elias Sørensen because you can apparently do that. That I can’t do anything about and don’t really want to spend more time on but please do at least fix the spelling and grammar that I also fixed in that article. Fantasma~enwiki (talk) 06:21, 5 April 2019 (UTC)

I respectfully thank your extremely arrogant answer. Will you please tell me when "become" was made the past tense of "become"? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Fantasma~enwiki (talk • contribs) 08:08, 5 April 2019 (UTC)

Kean
Hi. What's the reasoning behind the big push for Sterling? Should we list every comment by Balo, Stormzy, Pogba, and the countless others? What makes Sterling so special? The references can stay, but unless we list them all, explicit mention of Sterling should be removed. Regards, <b style="color:black">Vaseline</b><b style="color:lightgrey">eeeeeee</b>★★★ 14:08, 5 April 2019 (UTC)

Ayanda Patosi
Hello, You just deleted all the edits I have done on Ayanda Patosi. Why would you do them? I am trying to improve the article by adding legitimately sourced content. Shervin27 (talk) 14:00, 13 April 2019 (UTC)


 * As you mentioned on the article's talk page important details of every goal/game/assist should be included in the article. According to your own words, most details I have mentioned in this article ARE actually important to point out. Details such as the date he joined the new club, the first goal he scored for the club and a record-breaking goal but what you just did was to delete the whole things I had been writing. Respect the time I have spent on the article during the last two days to improve it.Shervin27 (talk) 14:25, 13 April 2019 (UTC)

Possible outing
Hi GiantSnowman. I saw you posted early on in Administrators%27_noticeboard/Incidents. I am concerned that has outed the original poster  at the start of their comment. Please redact if necessary. I originally asked Oshwah but they have not edited very recently, while I noticed you have edited very recently. starship.paint ~  KO   08:04, 15 April 2019 (UTC)
 * please can you explain how this is possible OUTting? 08:14, 15 April 2019 (UTC)
 * First I don't mean to say this is a malicious out by Symmachus Auxiliarus. The original poster at ANI self-outed in posting an ANI thread about their old account. Oshwah redacted the original poster's name to protect their clean start from their old account. Symmachus Auxiliarus seems to have accidentally mentioned the original poster's name in that edit. starship.paint ~  KO   08:17, 15 April 2019 (UTC)
 * Oh yes, no implication that it was malicious at all! I suggest you contact WP:OVERSIGHT, given the number of possible revdels required? GiantSnowman 08:50, 15 April 2019 (UTC)
 * Yes, I wrote that long before Oshwah had undertaken any oversight actions, though. Not after. He must have missed it when looking through the thread. I’d appreciate if this could be taken care by someone with the necessary permissions/user right, ASAP... GiantSnowman, it should only need to be revdeled once, since all other mentions of the name have already been redacted. Symmachus Auxiliarus (talk) 13:50, 15 April 2019 (UTC)
 * can you oversight please? GiantSnowman 13:54, 15 April 2019 (UTC)
 * GiantSnowman - Okay, I'll take a look at WP:OVERSIGHT. Thank you - and same to . starship.paint ~  KO   14:03, 15 April 2019 (UTC)


 * Oshwah originally did suppress the information. After discussion on the Oversight mailing list it was determined that it is not outing and not suppressible.  Oshwah reverted the suppression of the name.  ~ GB fan 14:08, 15 April 2019 (UTC)
 * thank you for clarifying. please see GB fan's explanation. No action required. GiantSnowman 14:24, 15 April 2019 (UTC)

help/protection
Hello,i need some help.As i see you are admin here.We talked about Konotogiorgakis in the past.It's about the page of PAS Giannina,my team.PAS Giannina F.C..Someone unknown adds players on notable former players.They are not notable for the club or something else.Also they are not former.He adds players that they are in the team right now.Also he adds wrong nationalities in the players. Is there any way to protect the page from this?--Fon7 (talk) 16:15, 17 April 2019 (UTC)

They are not users with name so i dont know how to warn them.Also i dont know the way to revert many changes all of them.There was problem at the past but he or they stopped.Now there is problem again.--Fon7 (talk) 16:48, 17 April 2019 (UTC)

STOP!
Stop undoing my edits! Wikimadguy16 (talk) 16:23, 17 April 2019 (UTC)

STOP NOW!
Please stop it says on google search engine 31 Dec 2010 look it up yourself. Wikimadguy16 (talk) 16:35, 17 April 2019 (UTC)
 * Hello. I see you're a newbie. Please stop editing for a little bit and discuss the problems. I'll drop you a line at your talk page in a mo. --Dweller (talk) Become old fashioned! 16:54, 17 April 2019 (UTC)

help/protection 2
I saw that you wrote there.So i dont write as well.I will wait to see what happens in the future.Is something happens i will warn then and i will tell you if something happens.Thanks for the help.--Fon7 (talk) 16:06, 18 April 2019 (UTC)

can you please revert page moves ?
Hi, GiantSnowman: Torres again moved two pages without discussion : Panthera leo leo to Northern lion then to North lion, and Panthera leo melanochaita to Southern lion then to South lion. See the loong discussions running over several months last year in Talk:Lion/Archive_5 and the decision in Talk:Lion/Archive_5 to keep Latin names as page titles for the 2 subspecies. Happy holidays -- BhagyaMani (talk) 08:04, 22 April 2019 (UTC)

Userfy 2 draft pages please
Hi, if possible could you please move two draft pages to my userspace:
 * Draft:2019–20 Coupe de France Preliminary Rounds
 * Draft:2019–20 Coupe de France Preliminary Rounds, Overseas departments and territories

Not sure if I can do this myself, and don't want to muck it up. Thanks, Gricehead (talk) 13:24, 30 April 2019 (UTC)

ArbCom 2019 special circular
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Administrator account security (Correction to Arbcom 2019 special circular)
ArbCom would like to apologise and correct our previous mass message in light of the response from the community.

Since November 2018, six administrator accounts have been compromised and temporarily desysopped. In an effort to help improve account security, our intention was to remind administrators of existing policies on account security — that they are required to "have strong passwords and follow appropriate personal security practices." We have updated our procedures to ensure that we enforce these policies more strictly in the future. The policies themselves have not changed. In particular, two-factor authentication remains an optional means of adding extra security to your account. The choice not to enable 2FA will not be considered when deciding to restore sysop privileges to administrator accounts that were compromised.

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Cody Reinberg
Hi GS. I hope you're enjoying your holiday. When you return, please fix this comment because I think you're confusing me with another editor. Thanks. PS: Your holiday notice said April instead of May, FIFY. Leviv&thinsp;<span style="display:inline-block;position:relative;transform:rotate(45deg);bottom:-.57em;">ich 02:24, 5 May 2019 (UTC)

Speedy deletion article
Search up Naples United FC on google. The team exists. Matthewishere0 (talk) 01:56, 12 May 2019 (UTC)

Farsley Celtic
Hi Snowman. Could you semi-protect Farsley Celtic F.C.? A new editor is repeatedly removing the link to the ground (and images of it), as well as changing the capacity to a different value to the source. Cheers, Number   5  7  09:16, 21 May 2019 (UTC)

Avni Hasani
Hi GS, if you get a moment could you take a look at this page (you commented at AfD earlier). An editor with a possible COI is adding unusual content... the page is in mainspace and not a draft so needs to be 'presentable'. I've removed it a couple of times and left messages at their TP but they are not cooperating, rather WP:TE just putting it back in. Am I overreacting a little? Cheers. Eagleash (talk) 21:13, 28 May 2019 (UTC)
 * OK, I hadn't considered it vandalism, just not useful (and unsourced). I'll just allow to AfD run its course then. Cheers. Eagleash (talk) 08:43, 29 May 2019 (UTC)
 * Now they have twice removed your comment at my TP. Removed all comments from their own TP (fair enough). Not clarified the CoI query. Eagleash (talk) 11:53, 29 May 2019 (UTC)
 * Thanks, I'd left a COI notice at the page previously and requested clarification subsequently (all deleted). But as you say WP:CIR. Cheers. Eagleash (talk) 12:07, 29 May 2019 (UTC)

Antonio Horvath moved to draftspace
An article you recently created, Antonio Horvath, does not have enough sources and citations as written to remain published. It needs more citations from reliable, independent sources. (?) Information that can't be referenced should be removed (verifiability is of central importance on Wikipedia). I've moved your draft to draftspace (with a prefix of " " before the article title) where you can incubate the article with minimal disruption. When you feel the article meets Wikipedia's general notability guideline and thus is ready for mainspace, please click on the "Submit your draft for review!" button at the top of the page. JoeHebda (talk) 02:05, 31 May 2019 (UTC)

ANI discussion
Hi Giant Snowman. Just notifying you of Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents as a courtesy since I mentioned you by name in the thread. -- Marchjuly (talk) 06:19, 3 June 2019 (UTC)

Nomination of Caoimhin Kelleher for deletion
A discussion is taking place as to whether the article Caoimhin Kelleher is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The article will be discussed at Articles for deletion/Caoimhin Kelleher until a consensus is reached, and anyone, including you, is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.

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Watford Football club
Hi there a while back someone Edited the Watford page and changed the Dat Watford were founded from the true date 1881 to 1898 and its annoyed a lot of supporters is there anyway to stop the page from being able to be edited Thanks BigBoi233 (talk) 08:22, 12 June 2019 (UTC)

Scheimann
Hello there, as a matter of fact I only saw him signing on Instagram. Thought that would be somewhat informal, but sure thing, will keep that in mind from now on. Thanks for the note!

Liron Mets (talk) 15:59, 12 June 2019 (UTC)

Keigo Moriyasu
Hi GS, you recently deleted a page creation of mine, Keigo Moriyasu, who played briefly for JPV Marikina F.C. in the 2018 Philippines Football League. The Philippines Football League is professional, as of WP:FOOTY, and as it was not replaced by the now-defunct Philippine Premier League, still stands as the top division for Filipino football. I provided a source for Moriyasu's appearances in the PPL, but the link is now dead, so I believe I updated it with the archived link. However, as I do not have admin privileges, I cannot view the now-deleted page to confirm this. The link was directly from the PPL official website, so I think this stands as a valid link. Could this page please be reinstated?

Thanks

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CSM Școlar Reșița
Hello, I have a page move request (CSM Școlar Reșița) after some time. If you want to express your opinion, you're welcome. Rhinen

Change to Sarfo Heights
Hello Sarfo Samuel have made 7games in the National team... and he now increased in height of 1.87m Wadunaglado (talk) 16:13, 19 June 2019 (UTC)

User:Ronalditos58815738
Looks like the user is back at it. Although the IPs aren't in the same location, they are editing the same articles and doing the same type of edits Ronalditos58815738 did.



<b style="font-family:verdana"> GoPurple 'n  Gold24 </b> 05:21, 20 June 2019 (UTC)

Pub edit?
We could all use a pint of DRAFT Club Oranje T 13:40, 20 June 2019 (UTC)

Thanks. And a query
Hi there. Thanks for protecting the article on Aaron Wan-Bissaka. Not sure if you did so in response to my request (can never work these things out). Under my request there is a comment about confirming it here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Requests_for_page_protection#Aaron_Wan-Bissaka Could you please confirm/clean-up as needed as I'm not sure if I'm supposed to respond as its not been protected by myself. Thanks :) GiggsIsLegend (talk) 13:20, 26 June 2019 (UTC)

Categories
Thanks, I'm not very used with categories moving...Rhinen

Dennis Lukens
Hello GiantSnowman. I am contacting you regarding the updates to the page about Dennis Lukens. I would like you to reconsider reverting or revising the edits that I made, accepting some or all of the changes. Dennis Lukens is affiliated with Soccer Camps in the US and is actively advertising those camps. That is relevant and part of his professional career. He has a page specifically to establish credibility for himself and his activities running those camps, including the actual assessment of those camps should be included to give a balanced perspective.

As I referenced and cited (granted there are many more pages that could be cited) the actual reviews of those camps and the experience of the children and parents has not been positive. Most complain about being swindled and never getting their money back.

You described a balanced view. Let me know how to better edit the facts into the page so that the narrative is on balance. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tbmartinwiki (talk • contribs) 12:31, 30 June 2019 (UTC)

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Archive Sent by MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 21:19, 1 July 2019 (UTC)

Rumour
No, not *now* a transfer bid has been made. Just "player was linked with a transfer to club" is not encyclopaedic. Mattythewhite (talk) 11:49, 2 July 2019 (UTC)

Jack Harper (footballer)
Hi GS, how are you?

About the lad, he was born in Málaga, so he's still Spanish. Somebody who was born in Spain may still be an expatriate to the very same Spain? Cheers, MYS <i style="color: red;">77</i> <sup style="color: orange;">✉  20:13, 2 July 2019 (UTC)


 * Yes, he does. MYS <i style="color: red;">77</i> <sup style="color: orange;">✉  03:49, 3 July 2019 (UTC)


 * Done. However, I see a 'Real Madrid CF players' cat which I don't actually agree. Does a player who only represented the club in their youth categories deserve a cat often related to the first-team? That may also applies to Brighton's cat, and then there's another doubt: is Category:FC Barcelona youth players a valid cat? MYS <i style="color: red;">77</i> <sup style="color: orange;">✉  14:09, 3 July 2019 (UTC)


 * I see. But what should happen when a player represented Real Madrid's youth setup and their C-team, for an example? Should we have the "Real Madrid CF players" and the "Real Madrid C footballers" or just the latter one? MYS <i style="color: red;">77</i> <sup style="color: orange;">✉  14:52, 3 July 2019 (UTC)


 * Yep, but Messi did play for Barcelona's first team. The same applies to those players who never represented the first team? MYS <i style="color: red;">77</i> <sup style="color: orange;">✉  14:58, 3 July 2019 (UTC)

West Germany
... is no country name. In articles so far, piping it was our compromise. For a singer - vs. politician - it doesn't even play a role in her biography if East of West. I am on my private 1RR, - up to you to not make me unhappy on Kafka's day ;) - To be precise: articles where I am one of the authors should not mention West Germany as a country, - political system is a different story. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:02, 3 July 2019 (UTC)

Changing info
Hello. I’m a friend of Gary Bowyer who asked me to change his wiki page to have his correct DOB which is wrong & remove all mentions of Carshalton as he doesn’t even know where it is, let alone represented them. AMB220579 (talk) 08:51, 5 July 2019 (UTC)

Feel free to send me an email to bayes1@hotmail.com & I will gladly provide you evidence AMB220579 (talk) 10:39, 5 July 2019 (UTC)

RE: Unsourced information
Hi. Apologies, it's not intentional. Sometimes the fast nature of updating a large number of football/soccer player articles with minor edits. I'll do my best to include edit summaries as well as source in future. Also, please don't take that overly officious and rude tone again with people you don't know who are clearly acting in good faith. I know you've had issues yourself with a Wikipedia Arbitration case, and you know seeing comments like that when you know you're not doing so maliciously can be feel a bit much. Appreciate it's frustrating though. Have you got a link to an easy to read best practice summary for updating BLP's/football articles? Thanks. UncleTupelo1 (talk) 09:09, 8 July 2019 (UTC)

Poitiers FC -> Stade Poitevin FC move over redirect
Hi GS, Could you please perform for me a move over redirect, to move Poitiers FC to Stade Poitevin FC? My edit should provide sufficient context and sourcing for what is in effect a return to an old name for the club. I will update the other redirects that currently point to Poitiers FC once this is done. Thanks, Gricehead (talk) 09:23, 12 July 2019 (UTC)

Ayanda Patosi
You reverted my last edit on Ayanda Patosi article! Patosi joined Baniyas now. And you are stil reporting me :) shame on you just a little! Don't jodge soon I give you over God.. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Winterchillz (talk • contribs) 22:14, 13 July 2019 (UTC)

Possible Ronalditos58815738 sockpuppet
There's a user by the name of Ferdinal1 doing similar edits on the same type of articles that Ronalditos58815738 used to. User has been warned a few times for vandalism and other things.



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Height
Hello. Just a reminder that the policy section WP:CHALLENGE reads When tagging or removing material for lacking an inline citation, please state your concern that it may not be possible to find a published reliable source for the content, and therefore it may not be verifiable.[5], and footnote 5 tells us to check to see whether the material is sourced to a citation elsewhere on the page. cheers, Struway2 (talk) 08:14, 23 July 2019 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Category:Ugandan expatriates in Israel


A tag has been placed on Category:Ugandan expatriates in Israel requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section C1 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the category has been empty for seven days or more and is not a disambiguation category, a category redirect, a featured topics category, under discussion at Categories for discussion, or a project category that by its nature may become empty on occasion.

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ITN recognition for Beji Caid Essebsi
Stephen 11:26, 26 July 2019 (UTC)

Floyd Streete
You reversed my edit at Floyd Streete as WP:Overlink, so now the only link to his birthplace is. Would a link from Jamaica in the infobox also be an overlink? --Dthomsen8 (talk) 16:57, 26 July 2019 (UTC)

Lightburst
Hey GS! I couldn't help but notice your back-and-forth at Articles for deletion/Julien Jean.

I have actually been facing a bit of blow-back from that editor, apparently most recently in retaliation for my own comment immediately above yours, and I was wondering if you'd be willing to look into it and offer any advice on what can be done? I ... really dislike ANI: I opened one thread about him calling me a basement-dweller, which was shut down with "Lightburst, don't do that anymore", to which he responded by feigning an offer of friendship, which I readily accepted; then when I filed [Wikipedia:Contributor copyright investigations/Lightburst a CCI on him], he opened an ANI thread on me, which didn't go anywhere, and almost immediately after it was closed he opened another one, which also didn't go anywhere; since then he's been intermittently harassing me with comments like this and most recently this and this.

I really don't know what to do at this point -- I was given assurances during and immediately after the third ANI thread that he would be subject to more scrutiny, but after a week or two that seems to have disappeared, he's still engaged in the same disruptive behaviour (and worse -- questioning other editors' mental states like that last diff is actually worse than anything I saw from him back in May or June), and no one seems to be doing anything about it.

Hijiri 88 ( 聖やや ) 00:41, 27 July 2019 (UTC)

Justin Evans
Undid your revision due to me adding two references for the article concerning Justin Evans.

OLLSZCZ (talk) 12:36, 30 July 2019 (UTC)

Quique de la Mata
Is the Quique de la Mata page pass as WP:NFOOTY as he did play in the second tier of Spanish football but it was for the reserve side not the main side of Málaga CF. HawkAussie (talk) 00:08, 31 July 2019 (UTC)

Oh Balkans and its rivalries and psycho games
Hi my facourite snowman, hope you´re doing fine and enjoying the summer. Me? Well, I got divorced, went trough the horrible idea there is no eternal love even when is so genuine and real at begining even when you didn´t even believed it existed, and someone changed your mind, but unfortunatelly after alost a decade, changed it again. So, no, no eternal love. It sucks. Even worste, she moved abroad, she moved to your country, near Wales but on English side, that´s where her brother lives. She likes it a lot, but really misses two things: good food (she´s Italian) and sunny weather (she lived in Portugal with me). Before she went, I was trying to convince her not to go by scaring her saying England was full of football hooligans all around, it´s the nest of hooliganism, a real terror and so... but she says I am a bloody liar, she hardly saw any hooligan till now. I knew I was lying, Maggy irradicated almost all hooligans still in her days, but even I was disapointed that she failed to see any real hooligan in English middlands. What have you done up there? You should have kept at least some specimens as turistic atraction... or at least to scare my ex... bah... you Brits disapointed me big time. (joking, desapearance of hooligans was the ebst thing ever in Engish football).

Hey GS, listen, Republika Srpska official football team is under attack. I´ll cut the crap, the thing is, after Bosnian War ended, Dayton agreement came into place, and Bosnia and Herzegovina became a country formed by two separate entities: Federation of Bosnia and Herzegovina and Republika Srpska. So, basically, non-Serbs want to see Republika Srpska erased, while Serbs, from wherever they are, see it as what it is, an entity forming Bosnia and Herzegovina. Obviously, football is where passions mostly become high, and for many non-Serbs the team of Republika Srpska becomes a target to be erased. I don´t agree with such atitudes. You know I am a Serbian editor, however, you can see how much I contributed for instance to Football in Kosovo, Kosovo national football team, their leagues, players, categories, etc. I can personally oppose Kosovo independence but I always edited constructivelly completelly ignoring my personal feelings.

With Republika Srpska, the thing is that the Bosnian FA is formed by the union of FBiH and FRS. Each one organises the half of the leagues coresponding to their part, and only the Bosnian top-league is joint. Now, the FA of RS does make calls for a sort of "national team", speacially at youth levels, which does regularelly, while at senior levels, it played few games, but has posponed organising more not to cause political upset. However, that is no reason in my view to erase the team. The team doesnt claim to be a "national team", and is one of the many regional non-FIFA existing teams. It has a coach, permanent personelle, managers for all age levels, etc. The editor who is erasing the info and proposing deletions is erasing many valid info along in what is disruptive, and is calling the main Bosnian websites "unreliable" when they come to be about something he doesn´t like (R. Srpska). I am asking you for advice and asking you tor econsider your position. We dont know what will happened in the future, now is actually a very uncertain moment, and I think we should not take sides but rather leave the reliable info we have without favoring no side. FkpCascais (talk) 22:49, 1 August 2019 (UTC)

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Tosin Kehinde
Hello! Just to let you know, Tosin Kehinde hasn't actually made his pro debut just yet - Soccerway haven't fixed their error from a few weeks back; if you click his '1' appearance it states 'No results available'. R96Skinner (talk) 15:45, 4 August 2019 (UTC)

Tosin Kehinde
Sorry, just saw your note on the deletion of this player's talk page. At least this gives you a chance to up your 'deleted pages' stat. Davidlofgren1996 (talk) 19:14, 4 August 2019 (UTC)

FkpCascais / Santana dispute
Just saw you took your out of office off, hope you had a nice time off! There is a content dispute in wikifootball talk page which is all political and around the Balkans. I have no idea which side is right but will take a look at the sourcing when I can, but if you could cast some calmness at the entrenched editors it might calm things down a bit. Ta. Koncorde (talk) 17:14, 5 August 2019 (UTC)

Non-breaking spaces
Hi, I saw you removed non-breaking spaces from the article Charles Lyon Chandler using a script. Please see MOS:NBSP; a non-breaking space is appropriate between a month and day, or month and year, to prevent these from inappropriately breaking across lines. Although they look a little ungainly in the source editor, they provide a benefit when someone actually reads the page. You may want to update your script to accommodate this. Adding them by script may not be wise because they could be incompatible with very narrow infobox or table lines, or be unnecessary for a date that begins a line, but at least existing ones should be retained. Kim Post (talk) 06:28, 6 August 2019 (UTC)

Good evening
Could you please help me with the movement of these categories? I think I'm not doing something ok...[Category:ACS Energeticianul players], [Category:ACS Energeticianul managers], [Category:ACS Energeticianul]. Rhinen
 * Thank you very much! Rhinen

Adrián
Could you please semi-protect Adrián (footballer) if you're around. JMHamo (talk) 19:48, 9 August 2019 (UTC)

Table
I believe we've discussed this before. Having the zeroes will give the impression to our readers that Stoke are *currently* in a fourth competition, which they are not. We are, of course, not a paper encyclopaedia, so there's no issue with restoring those cells if and when needed. Mattythewhite (talk) 16:31, 11 August 2019 (UTC)

Ronalditos sockpuppet


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David Will
Actually, I added a link, not deleted one. Anyway you win; I can't be bothered to waste any more time on such wearisome pedantry. Rcb1 (talk)rcb1

George Darwin
I am the late grandson of George Darwin and I have amended the details correctly Darwinjonny (talk) 09:38, 12 August 2019 (UTC)

Nomination of James Montgomery (footballer, born 1994) for deletion
A discussion is taking place as to whether the article James Montgomery (footballer, born 1994) is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

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Nomination of Connor Shields for deletion
A discussion is taking place as to whether the article Connor Shields is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

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Speedy deletion nomination of Category:Gateshead F.C. wartime guest players


A tag has been placed on Category:Gateshead F.C. wartime guest players requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section C1 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the category has been empty for seven days or more and is not a disambiguation category, a category redirect, a featured topics category, under discussion at Categories for discussion, or a project category that by its nature may become empty on occasion.

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Oriol Rey
Hi GS, how are you?

A recent AfD regarding this player was closed and his article was deleted. However, the redirect is still up and it's pointing to Leeds United. Can you please delete it? Cheers, MYS <i style="color: red;">77</i> <sup style="color: orange;">✉  19:10, 16 August 2019 (UTC)

August 2019
Hey there, I'm actually Tom's daughter... so I'm pretty sure my information is correct. I spoke with him directly and put in the proper details. Mayap321 (talk) 08:25, 20 August 2019 (UTC)

I’m not sure what you mean by “The Canadian Soccer Association disputes what you claim.” lol. No hard feelings here though, just want the proper information for my dad’s page. If you really want proof of the information or my claim, I’ll provide that for you without a problem. Mayap321 (talk) 07:17, 22 August 2019 (UTC)

AfD/Jamyang Tenzin
Hi. I had forgotten about the Tier 1 part of NFOOTY, so apologies - have amended my vote. However, I'd like a little clarification: What makes it a non-Tier 1 match? I've read the FIFA regulations, their main issue is whether it's 'A' vs. 'A' along with their and a sub-confederation's authorisation (how would we prove that?). It seems strange to just take NFT's word for it. R96Skinner (talk) 16:04, 20 August 2019 (UTC)
 * Are you referring to SportingFlyer's comment about Global FC? I believe, per Soccerway, they are referencing a game Tenzin played for Yeedzin in the AFC President's Cup vs. Global, a Filipino team. Tenzin's international cap came in a match between Thailand and Bhutan. R96Skinner (talk) 17:53, 20 August 2019 (UTC)

Nomination of James Emswiller for deletion
A discussion is taking place as to whether the article James Emswiller is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The article will be discussed at Articles for deletion/James Emswiller until a consensus is reached, and anyone, including you, is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.

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James Fleming
You should not controll "your" edits while you are on holiday. Anyway James and Jim are not equal, they are separate names. --Bahnmoeller (talk) 12:10, 27 August 2019 (UTC)

Note
Per I remain convinced that Ortizesp's competence and attitude towards page moves and article names is entirely unsuitable. I suggest a new, indefinite topic ban or an IDHT/CIR block. – MJL &thinsp;‐Talk‐☖ 21:45, 27 August 2019 (UTC)

Sourcing NPSL player statistic
Hey. So the NPSL are pretty dire at collating all their player statistics. They are available here, but you have to go in to each individual fixture and count their appearances, goals, etc. What's the best way to present this in the player article? The info is there, but not sure how it meets the required guidelines. I'd prefer the players history at the club is there over it been blank. Thanks! UncleTupelo1 (talk) 15:38, 28 August 2019 (UTC)

Alexis Sanchez
I didn’t remove any sources mate a credible source is when either the club or player themselves confirm the move. Notice how the page was edited as soon as Manchester United made the announcement. RossButsy (talk) 11:03, 30 August 2019 (UTC)

date formats
WP:DATERET Walter Görlitz (talk) 15:03, 30 August 2019 (UTC)
 * The earliest date format for both "parent" articles was MDY: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Frank_Shuster&oldid=22367883 and https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Johnny_Wayne&oldid=24489134 so any intermediate date format is immaterial per DATERET. Walter Görlitz (talk) 15:08, 30 August 2019 (UTC)
 * Date formats changed in 2015: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Johnny_Wayne&diff=688340114&oldid=676022936 and https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Frank_Shuster&diff=688339660&oldid=660802486 so I am correctly apply DATERET. Walter Görlitz (talk) 15:15, 30 August 2019 (UTC)
 * it's hard to have a conversation with you when you keep on removing my posts from your page, but I know that now having gone to the first edits back in 2005. Why couldn't you simply have stated that earlier rather than being a nuisance and disruptively reverting? You've caused a lot of aggro for no good reason. I don't care what the format is, I do care that it's consistent across the articles. GiantSnowman 15:17, 30 August 2019 (UTC)
 * It's hard to have a conversation with you when you keep writing on my talk and I keep writing here.
 * I stated DATERET with pretty much every single edit I made. You assumed that you were looking at the established format without investigating which was the earliest established format. I've been told multiple times consistency across articles is not a requirement, but I care about it too. Thanks for keeping it consistent. Walter Görlitz (talk) 15:21, 30 August 2019 (UTC)

pcupdate in infobox
Can user get permablocked per wp:competence? He doesnt understand any English (or doesnt want to), has been told many times that pcupdate parameters needs to be updated when changing stats, and he ignores it. Furthermore, I checked Soccerway for those stats and apparently he is also including cup games or continental games or something into infobox, since his numbers are always higher than those on Soccerway. Snowflake91 (talk) 19:03, 31 August 2019 (UTC)

Urawa Club
Hi, Why did you create this redirect (Urawa Club)? “Urawa Club” (full name is "Urawa Soccer Club" ja:浦和サッカークラブ) is a completely different club from Urawa Red Diamonds. "Urawa Club" is unrelated to Urawa Red Diamonds. I think that you should delete this redirect and remove this category. Thanks, 忍者小僧 (talk) 08:05, 4 September 2019 (UTC)

Jimmy Fleming
If you disagree with his date of death, then you may like to take a look at Deaths in 2019! Odd that it's in that, but not in the article. If it's not accurate then it clearly needs removing from the list. -- Necrothesp (talk) 12:08, 4 September 2019 (UTC)

Soccerway
Hi GiantSnowman, just to say thanks very much for your advice with the statistic tables, really appreciate it and will definitely use soccerway more often. Mclarge90 (talk) 13:54, 4 September 2019 (UTC)

User:Govvy/Chris Kinnear
Hiya GS, do you think it's a waste of time holding onto that draft of Chris Kinnear? Can't find any new news about him. Govvy (talk) 18:17, 4 September 2019 (UTC)

Infoboxen
What you refer to as "standard" takes up too much space in the edit box. The version I use condenses all the info that appears on a single line in the rendered article onto a single line in the edit box, which makes it easier for n00b editors to see what goes together, and also allows editors to get to the main body of the article quicker without having to scroll through a load of lines of infobox code. The infobox documentation expresses each parameter on a separate line so that people looking for info about how to use the template can see each parameter on its own, but there's nothing wrong with condensing related lines down on to one line in an actual article. I'm not sure why you're so hung up on this. – PeeJay 18:19, 4 September 2019 (UTC)

Steve Goble
I added information about Steve Goble's appearances for SC Veendam. Onbne can find this in the book"'Aan de Langeleegte'by Jan Mulder, ISBNumber 9789067970518. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Filmwijker (talk • contribs) 12:08, 6 September 2019 (UTC)

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George Tanner
I'm not sure what you mean when you say it doesn't follow the MOS. The template documentation is not an MOS, it just lists the parameters that exists in the template so people know how the template works. How we present the template in the article code is not dependent on how we present the template parameters in its documentation. Furthermore, the documentation can easily be changed. Your argument doesn't make much sense, but I still responded to it. Your refusal to engage with me really betrays your attitude as a Wikipedian, which is sorely lacking at times. – PeeJay 16:09, 8 September 2019 (UTC)
 * You posted a diktat, not an attempt at discussion. Now would you like to talk about this or are we going to quibble over minutiae? – PeeJay 09:00, 9 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Incorrect. You've latched onto something I said and boiled it down to the conclusion you like best because it suits your argument. I said this style makes it easier for other editors to work with; if you disagree, that's fine, but you made an edit simply to revert my change, which isn't really kosher. I'm happy to work with you to find a compromise solution, but that's not going to work if you stick to your non-starter of an argument about template documentation. – PeeJay 09:22, 9 September 2019 (UTC)
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Chaim Topol
Hi, I noticed you called for mdy dates. Israel uses dmy dates. Yoninah (talk) 10:46, 9 September 2019 (UTC)

ref date formats
Regarding this edit, it's no longer necessary to use dmy or mdy formats in references if there's a or  tag present. These now automatically apply the correct format to all dates in cite tags. As this is the case, it makes the most sense to use yyyy-mm-dd, since it's the least ambiguous and isn't visible to the reader. Nick Number (talk) 14:18, 13 September 2019 (UTC)

Ousmane fane
Hello, iam ousmane fane. Can you take off the last thing about double leg injury. This is not true. And this doesn’t help in the futur to find a club. Regards Alouninho (talk) 01:35, 16 September 2019 (UTC)

Career Stats Notelist differences
Hi GiantSnowman, hope you're well. Just wondering what the differences between the and {notelist} (missing the double "{" so it appears here) are when it comes to career stat boxes and which really is the best to use? Personally I think the {notelist} style is easier to edit with but i see both being used frequently. Just noticed you changing my edit on Mark Sykes to the notelist style and thought I'd ask the question, I want to make sure I'm using the best one in the future. Many thanks Mclarge90 (talk) 14:05, 16 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Thanks again, will go with that in the future! Mclarge90 (talk) 14:10, 16 September 2019 (UTC)

Geoffrey Kizito
Geoffrey Kizito is naturazilled Vietnamese succesful in 2017, https://nld.com.vn/the-thao/ngoi-sao-uganda-thanh-cong-dan-viet-20170325224337166.htm — Preceding unsigned comment added by FabianFrei (talk • contribs) 15:13, 16 September 2019 (UTC)

I'm not good in Wikipedia, thank you for helping me, i love your work in Wikipedia. — Preceding unsigned comment added by FabianFrei (talk • contribs) 15:28, 16 September 2019 (UTC)

Kallum Mantack
Is there anything that can be done about Kallum Mantack's article? Someone (presumably either him or someone who knows him) edits his article on a near daily basis to include cup stats in his infobox. Not sure if it's too minor to care about but thought I'd ask! --JonnyDKeen (talk) 17:27, 16 September 2019 (UTC)

Football articles
I cited all the relevant source and all the players cited have played in fully pro leagues Do cite me what's desirable changes that I need to make before deleting them all. Princewell emeka,moha Ramos and Lalbiakzuala won't be deleted at all as they appeared in i-league. Another pro leagues

Apologizing for imbecilities
I cordially apologize if my earnest and constructive efforts were leading to disrupt. What I felt was to give the articles of I-League a published form which wasn't done earlier.Now, I solemn to be with the accordance of Wikipedian policy. Please don't humilate by canceling the admin request. You may check all my edits which have given respect, admiration and was thanked by many Wikipedians.

Bobby Burns and expatriate categories
We don't include people moving within the UK as "expatriates". e.g. otherwise every English player in Scotland (or vice versa) would be counted as an expatriate! Jmorrison230582 (talk) 10:53, 18 September 2019 (UTC)

Heaton
More than ready, I'd have thought. Doesn't pass WP:NFOOTY, and quite possibly never will after he made the wrong choice in going to St Mirren, but comfortably passes GNG. cheers, Struway2 (talk) 10:19, 19 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Thank you. Struway2 (talk) 10:24, 19 September 2019 (UTC)

Bradford City
stop editing my edits they are factually correct — Preceding unsigned comment added by BIGBRAD123 (talk • contribs)

User:Ortizesp still fails to use WP:RM
Hi GS, how are you? This user (which you and I warned a bunch of times) is still moving pages around without compromise, and still, some of his moves are again controversial. We've raised an ANI about him twice, he promised that he would use RM, but it seems that it didn't work out the right way here.

What's the next approach to this? Should we topic ban him from moving pages for a period of time? Cheers, MYS <i style="color: red;">77</i> <sup style="color: orange;">✉  14:57, 22 September 2019 (UTC)

Help restoring some draft pages?
Hello GS, I was wondering if you could help me with restoring some deleted pages to the draftspace? If you recall the whole Sander.v.Ginkel situation, many of the articles he created were moved to the draftspace to allow for processing. If not moved back to the mainspace, the draft was deleted after 90 days. Given the quantity of articles, it was a bit difficult to sort all through. I now have a list of some of these deleted pages, would it be possible to restore them in the draft namespace for me to check/review (and overhaul if necessary)? Then if appropriate (per the guidelines) the article could be restored to the mainspace. This would be extremely appreciated as I'm trying to cover some missing articles. S.A. Julio (talk) 23:41, 23 September 2019 (UTC)

User:Govvy/Japhet Tanganga
I tried moving my article to main space but it wasn't working, maybe you can have a look for me? Govvy (talk) 21:52, 24 September 2019 (UTC)
 * {{{tps}}{{ping|Govvy}} Looks like someone beat you to it; see Japhet Tanganga. Perhaps you could merge the two pages? Please note Hackney is a Dab page. Cheers Eagleash (talk) 22:27, 24 September 2019 (UTC)
 * O, that's why it's not working. k, night. Govvy (talk) 22:41, 24 September 2019 (UTC)
 * I've merged the histories. GiantSnowman 07:58, 25 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Cheers, thanks for that. Govvy (talk) 08:52, 25 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Thanks. Eagleash (talk) 10:56, 25 September 2019 (UTC)

Draft:Troy Parrott to Troy Parrott
I don't think has done it right at all, the draft doesn't appear to be moved correctly. Seems to be multiple issues with history, etc and there is also Troy Parrott (footballer) which we don't need as there is only one Troy Parrott. It's a bit screwed up, maybe you can fix these issues also? Cheers. Govvy (talk) 09:00, 25 September 2019 (UTC)

Cheers, that was efficiently quick! Govvy (talk) 09:05, 25 September 2019 (UTC)
 * I don't get it, just moved the article back to draft space for review even know he now passes WP:NFOOTY. Whats going on? Govvy (talk) 09:17, 25 September 2019 (UTC)
 * In my defence I followed Merging - "If the need for a merge is obvious, editors can be bold and simply do it" - and did it by following Merging which states cut and paste content, and not to merge histories. Anyway. If my bad, my bad. Bogger (talk) 10:13, 25 September 2019 (UTC)
 * I note that there is no procedure for merging Drafts into existing article space. Maybe there should be? Bogger (talk) 10:14, 25 September 2019 (UTC)
 * You're suppose to move drafts into main space to preserve the editing history, this is also to protect who the contributors were to the article. There was an article about that somewhere, can't remember the link know. Govvy (talk) 10:33, 25 September 2019 (UTC)
 * , agreed, but the Draft could not be moved into mainspace, because the article (I concede, with a different title) already existed. So merger, rather than move procedures seemed apt.Bogger (talk) 11:44, 25 September 2019 (UTC)
 * not if people stop creating duplicate mainspace articles when a draft exists. In an ideal world there would be one version only, in draft, which is simply moved into mainspace. GiantSnowman 11:45, 25 September 2019 (UTC)

User:Nxlo03qda
How to deal with Nxlo03qda at João Félix? The user is blatantly evading block of and  (socks of ) by using several accounts. I even listed them at Talk:João Félix. SLBedit (talk) 20:32, 25 September 2019 (UTC)

Robert Sánchez
Do you want to stop reverting/deleting my edits/biography's of Robert's and other players I have been editing. Don't tell me that I'm overloading with information, because I'm not! It's constructive and factual and anybody reading the articles will gain more of an insight to his and other people's careers. Just having when they signed and their debut is too limited. I swear if Robert was playing for Real Madrid and I made these edits you wouldn't do anything. It's the fact he plays for Rochdale in the third tier of English football! They have just as much right to have these full bloomed articles.

Cheers.

Beeney :) Beeney xx (talk) 10:04, 28 September 2019 (UTC)

Re: Piping
Are you always this blunt and exasperated on Wikipedia? It can't be good for your health! Can I ask why European and South American teams tend to pipe the FC, CA, CF, etc, on team names, but that's not acceptable in North America? I'd go with what their commonly referred to - nobody's saying El Paso Locomotive FC or Manchester United F.C. Obviously, happy to go with the rules, but interested know where this applies and doesn't. There has been some debate on it, so I guess I'll pick that up somewhere. UncleTupelo1 (talk) 11:19, 30 September 2019 (UTC)

List of outfield association footballers who played in goal
Hi, I just saw this at NPP, and first wondered if this was even a notable subject. Apparently it is though, and if you want to expand it, this contains some interesting stories, including greats like Pele, Gaucho, Alain Giresse and John Terry. I guess you are better placed to find the exact dates of these matches and do a short write-up on them. Fram (talk) 12:59, 1 October 2019 (UTC)

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Julien Lamy and Trevor Clarke
Hi GS, you beat me to it with Julien Lamy this morning! Are you also preparing Trevor Clarke (footballer)? I can save myself some time, if so. Cheers, Gricehead (talk) 09:59, 9 October 2019 (UTC)
 * Thanks! Gricehead (talk) 11:20, 9 October 2019 (UTC)

David Bielkus
Hi! You've reverted my edit here. Yes, it's a redirect page. The idea of my edit was to make it clearer which one of Ashford Town clubs is meant, cause I found a complete mess between Ashford United F.C. (Ashford Town between 1930-2011) and Ashford Town F.C.. So, besides adding (Kent) in visible part of a wikilink I decided to point on a redirect page. Did i do something wrong? Waiting for your reply. Martinklavier (talk) 15:01, 10 October 2019 (UTC)
 * Wondering about the best way to do this too. Eagleash (talk) 15:50, 10 October 2019 (UTC)
 * see my edits at David Bielkus. They used to be piped (IIRC) to 'Ashford Town (Kent)' and 'Ashford Town (Middlesex)'. GiantSnowman 15:53, 10 October 2019 (UTC)
 * OK, this edit of yours is the way I've done it in the past. To me, seems the most logical Eagleash (talk) 16:00, 10 October 2019 (UTC)

"Ed Vezey" listed at Redirects for discussion
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Reece Webb-Foster
You may be interested in this edit (summary). Eagleash (talk) 23:32, 15 October 2019 (UTC)

Sports notability
I opened a section in the talk page for WP:NSKATE to clarify my changes that were reverted if you want to take a look. Sunnyou31 (talk) 17:51, 19 October 2019 (UTC)

Fifa Confederations Cup records and statistics
Hi. I am a contributor too (nameless obviously) and i saw that, two years ago, you deleted all my work from "Fifa Confederations Cup" as notstats and unsourced. First of all, why all these are notstats? The same sections and edits are in "List of FIFA World Cup records and statistics" and in "List of UEFA European Championship records and statistics". These are stats. And second of all, you wrote that these are unsourced. I agree with that, that is correct, but why didn't you try to find some sources to improve the section too? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 46.177.191.112 (talk) 21:57, 21 October 2019 (UTC)

Hi. I saw and i read what you send earlier. But again, after you had the good mood to delete some of the stuff in this article, why did you delete only my work and not the whole article (it belongs in NOTSTATS and UNSOURCED too)? And why didn't you delete similar stuff in the articles that i cite above? I did a lot of work to improve this specific article just like you (as i see, in other articles) and but i don't understand your thinking about the selective deletions. I want an answer about that and not references to other articles. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.166.198.101 (talk) 18:49, 22 October 2019 (UTC)

Two pages movement proposed
Hello, I proposed two pages movement, after some time, if you want to express your opinion, you're welcome. Pages: Talk:CSM Olimpia Satu Mare & Talk:Stadionul Tudor Vladimirescu (2019) Rhinen

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Cleanup
Hello. Not sure if you've changed your script, but you seem to have gone back to removing unsourced content without mentioning it in the edit summary. cheers, Struway2 (talk) 16:54, 10 November 2019 (UTC)

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FCBJuvenil
He's back at it 86.157.236.126 (talk) 11:45, 14 November 2019 (UTC)
 * so are you - both blocked. GiantSnowman 11:54, 14 November 2019 (UTC)

Self block
Hi admin I just met you, because you gladly mentioned me and at the same time needing you to block this account indefinitely as I am not gonna edit ever again wikipedia, i know im still new it is really not my hobby to edit anymore, hoping to accept to my request. Thank you. BoneHeadHuman (talk) 13:19, 14 November 2019 (UTC)

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Now sockpuppeting under ip https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/2804:D55:12:8927:0:0:0:1 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 109.144.26.32 (talk) 06:50, 15 November 2019 (UTC) thanks. GiantSnowman 09:22, 15 November 2019 (UTC)

Joe McClelland
Thank you for your reply. You are absolutely correct that the book sources are not perfectly formatted. That's how people used to do it as a regular thing, and some people still do, because unlike those of us who've been playing this game for many years, they don't know any better. That doesn't make the text "worthless", as you helpfully claimed in your edit summary, not are the list of sources "pointless". They verify the text. They may not do so to your personal standards, but I have no doubt that they do source it.

As to the shame of re-adding birth places to the opening bracket, I'll live with it. Likewise the fluff in the text. Inline references to fully formatted citations wouldn't fix that. Copyediting would. I might have a go at it later.

Tell me, do you genuinely believe that those books don't verify the text, or is it just the lack of inline citations that bothers you? Struway2 (talk) 18:00, 15 November 2019 (UTC)
 * The managerial stats were added together with the Definitive Halifax Town book five days after the article's creation. The Definitive series are pure stats: results and appearance grids for each season, apps/goals for each player, manager stats. The other two are a Complete Record, which are the same whatever club and publisher it is, and a work of history. If I had all three of those for any club I was working on, between them they would absolutely verify general detail of a particular period in the club's history, results, finishing positions, and stats. Unfortunately I've never really been interested in Halifax Town. Struway2 (talk) 18:18, 15 November 2019 (UTC)

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Farmer in Romania
As it says in the press articles that I put on his page, he came to Romania, signed the contract, took the money but avoided coming to manage the team, that is why he isn't credited as the manager for the games Romania played in that period, Alexandru Savulescu is credited for those games. And from what I know FIFA and UEFA don't credit a manager's international appearance if he is not on the bench. I wrote this story on his page because I fought it was interesting, as a trivia.

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If you have any questions, please let us know at google-code-in-admins@lists.wikimedia.org.

Thank you!

--User:Martin Urbanec (talk) 21:58, 23 November 2019 (UTC)

Nzuzi Toko
Better(?) source for Tokos birth date: https://ifkgoteborg.se/spelare/nzuzi-toko/ (official site) 217.72.30.23 (talk) 23:43, 26 November 2019 (UTC)

Can i show you drafts
Hi Snow. I have seen your page and can i show you my drafts of actors and actresses. Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 39.43.86.142 (talk • contribs)

User:Mike Matthews17
Hi I am going through random user talk pages as I've seen on some recent changes thing. Is there a way to recover the password for the original account above please? Mike2Matthews17 (talk) 10:58, 28 November 2019 (UTC)

Ashley Sanchez
Hello! I will be undoing your latest edit regarding headings in Ashley Sanchez. The version you undid follows WP:FOOTY and established practices where US college play is a subsection under "Early life" (or equivalent), with the subheading text reading the collegiate team name (e.g., Carli Lloyd, Megan Rapinoe, Tobin Heath and more). If you have particular issues with these established practices, please bring it up elsewhere instead of repeatedly reverting legitimate edits. Thanks! Mightytotems (talk) 12:37, 28 November 2019 (UTC)

Deleting positive updates is similar to Nazi book burning
Deleting positive updates is similar to Nazi book burning.

You claim my update to Lilly Singh's page in regards to Hip-Hop culture is "poorly referenced" -- yet I am a member of multiple underground Hip Hop crews.

We know what Hip-Hop is

Do you??? Krypton Love (talk) 14:00, 28 November 2019 (UTC)

Daniel Fernández Artola
Article Daniel Fernández Artola renamed by text wrapping (article created in 2007). Need to delete Dani Fernández (footballer, born 1983) (this version created in 2016) and create redirect. --Mitte27 (talk) 00:48, 29 November 2019 (UTC)

Ajax women
I did (well, I tried) I don't want to get into a bitch-slapping contest so I'll leave it as is. Dutchy45 (talk) 09:53, 29 November 2019 (UTC)

Administrators' newsletter – December 2019
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Restoration of Reo Hatate
Hey GS, could you restore the above page, as I believe he meets Wikipedia’s guides for notability. I didn’t get a notification that the page was being nominated for deletion, otherwise I would’ve contested it. The page was well-sourced, with numerous Japanese articles cited. Thanks Davidlofgren1996 (talk) 12:08, 3 December 2019 (UTC)

Naming of Bohemian FC
Hello GS. I've previously edited the player profile for Kris Twardek of Bohemian FC. In my edit, I explained to you that the club never goes by the name Bohemian. It's either Bohemian FC or Bohemians. This is apparent in any Irish media. It's on the official website. It's on any FAI literature. Calling them just Bohemian is the equivalent of calling Aston Villa simply Aston. I am a member of the club and have 3 decades worth of attendance there. I don't know why you feel the need to say we are an encylopedia, not a branding department when all I'm doing is endeavoring to improve the page and make it more accurate. I don't know if you think I'm being petty or difficult but I assure you I have the best interests of the Wiki at heart. I myself am the main contributor to Bohemians current season page for the last couple of years. See last years here. 2019 Bohemian F.C. season.

My edits are not a shot at your work, just an attempt at a slightly more accurate improvement. Thank you Fwaig (talk) 14:51, 3 December 2019 (UTC)

How to close RM request
Hey GS, wondering if you may assist me in closing the WP:RM request at Talk:Francisco García Solsona. I'll take your advice in not bundling moves, I bundled what I personally thought were similar enough cases but looks like the consensus is against me. Thanks for your patience and assistance. Cheers!--Ortizesp (talk) 15:56, 3 December 2019 (UTC)

CITESTYLE
Please read CITESTYLE which covers dates in citations. Also, MOS:DATEFORMAT lists yyyy-mm-dd as an acceptable format. Thanks. --evrik (talk) 16:07, 3 December 2019 (UTC)


 * WP:CITEVAR


 * You mean the page that says that the format used should be consistent across the article? So why are you reverting me at Sara Wesslin to add inconsistent styles? The DOB in the infobox is mdy (displaying as November 8, 1991) but the DOB in the article is dmy (displaying as 8 November 1991). GiantSnowman 16:18, 3 December 2019 (UTC)
 * Exactly. So, if you look at Template:Cite news and use dmy dates or use mdy dates, by using the yyyy-mm-dd, the dates automatically formnat to the preferred format. I see that you made the fix on Sara Wesslin, so we can now claim a collaborative victory. --evrik (talk) 17:08, 3 December 2019 (UTC)

Klaas-Jan Huntelaar
Could you please point out to me the corresponding discussions/consensus? --Jaellee (talk) 19:37, 3 December 2019 (UTC)

Articles for deletion/Kevin Silva
You AfDed this a while back, I note this has been restored. Do you think it should get a speedy or another AfD, or has his career progressed to a point he is now notable? --<sub style="border:1px solid #228B22;padding:1px;">Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus&#124; reply here 04:07, 5 December 2019 (UTC) Similar cases: Articles for deletion/Lazar Stojsavljevic, Articles for deletion/Julien Lamy

Huntelaar
I've started a discussion at WT:Footy. --Jaellee (talk) 14:22, 7 December 2019 (UTC)

Rollback explanation
Hi there,

it was 100% accidental (was not even aware i had done it (only when i performed the second edit), but i apologise nonetheless), i did think about writing to you on the subject but then thought better and decided not, seeing as the category remained (and remains!) in the article.

Attentively, sorry for any inconvenience and happy wiki-break --Quite A Character (talk) 15:19, 13 December 2019 (UTC)

Sven Vandebroeck
From the template description: "Please do not list positions other than team manager (such as assistant or coach positions, or director of football roles where this role is not considered managerial) unless that position is a significant part of the person's career; this will apply primarily to those with significant or perhaps primary experience in management."

Surely the national team of Cameroon, winning the Africa Cup while he was assistant is sufficient... and OH Leuven was where he started basically? <b style="color:#4863A0;">Pelotas</b><b style="color:#F88017;">talk</b>&#124; contribs 20:15, 13 December 2019 (UTC)

Page move(s)
Thanks for helping out at (the former) "Gabri Gómez", now duly titled Gabri (footballer, born 1985)! Seeing this message (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Mattythewhite#Page_move(s)), can you apply the same M.O. to Gabri García (don't know which is better, "Gabri (footballer)" or "Gabri (footballer, born 1979)".

Cheers, thanks in advance --Quite A Character (talk) 17:40, 14 December 2019 (UTC)

User talk:TheIndian144
This user was just blocked and is continuing their attacking, coould you have a look and remove TPA if appropriate ? Thanx, -  FlightTime Phone  ( open channel ) 18:14, 14 December 2019 (UTC)

James Mitchell (footballer, born 1897)
Why did you undo my revisions of this article yesterday while I was still in the process of making corrections to try and get it into an acceptable format? As the article stands it is full of inaccuracies and omissions. It's alright writing that 'sources say 1897' but this is not a good enough reason if the particular source is wrong in what it says. I have thought for a long time that this is an article that needs an almost complete re-write. In particular - the birth year is wrong - it should be 1895; the birth place is wrong - it should be Waddington (near Clitheroe); the information about him being a professional is wrong - he was an amateur throughout his playing career; there is no mention of him playing for Fleetwood FC; there is no mention of him playing for the England Amateur International team - he made 5 appearances; there is no mention of him being picked to play for Amateurs v. Professionals in an FA Charity Shield match; etc. Of course one of the first corrections needed is that the title of the article ought to be 'James Mitchell (footballer, born 1895)'. Please let me know what authority I need for you to allow me to update the article. - Higherwiki / Talk 22:21, 16 December 2019 (UTC)

Help restoring some deleted World Cup qualification articles?
Hello, a few years ago a number of World Cup qualification articles, created by a blocked user, were deleted. Would it be possible to restore these pages (listed below)? I tried asking the deleting administrator, but didn't get a response. The topics are notable and I'll fix any issues if needed, it would save a considerable amount of effort from having to recreate them. Thanks, S.A. Julio (talk) 17:02, 18 December 2019 (UTC)

nbsp in dates
Re this, can you explain why it's better to allow line breaks between month and day? ― Mandruss  &#9742;  08:57, 19 December 2019 (UTC)

Ryan Edgar
I see after you reverted my edit you changed it to just the year, which is what I was going to do. I did want to point out this part of the BLP policy, specifically, "If a subject complains about our inclusion of their date of birth, or the person is borderline notable, err on the side of caution..." Your edit summary implies that the fact that he is a COI editor (his conflict being that he is the article subject) means we should show him less deference when he disputes his date of birth, but BLP says otherwise when it indicates we should respect his privacy. ~  ONUnicorn (Talk&#124;Contribs) problem solving 14:50, 19 December 2019 (UTC)

Page move(s)
Hi there,

don't know if you agree with these names for articles, i moved "Lino Lopes" to Lino (footballer, born 1976) (ANOTHER unwarranted move by User:Ortizesp, name/nickname compound!). But we also have Lino (footballer) (that i did not alter), younger by one year, and the 1976 chap is also an international even though he played for smaller clubs.

Is this a case of (any) primary topic that warrants any of the two pages to be (re)moved? If so, please do assist and sorry for any inconvenience. Merry Christmas from Portugal, thanks in advance --Quite A Character (talk) 16:39, 20 December 2019 (UTC)
 * Hey User:Quite A Character, sorry for my mistake and thanks for the adjustment. This was from a couple months back, when I admittedly made some errors with page moves out of ignorance. My 2 cents, move Lino (footballer) to Lino (footballer, born 1977 and redirect Lino (footballer) to Lino, no WP:PRIMARYTOPIC.--Ortizesp (talk) 16:46, 20 December 2019 (UTC)
 * ✅ GiantSnowman 11:25, 21 December 2019 (UTC)


 * , thanks for adjustments! :: no worries, in the future i'll gladly assist you whenever you are considering moving/asking move to be performed regarding Portuguese/Spanish footballers, come to me if you have any doubts.

Merry Xmas both, continue the good work --Quite A Character (talk) 15:06, 21 December 2019 (UTC)

Proposed del of Santiago Bueno
Hey, I thought Bueno is eligible to get a wiki page since he played a match for the first team of a professional club in a cup match. Well, guess its not enough! Thanks for giving a note about it anyway. :) Kokoeist (talk) 14:50, 22 December 2019 (UTC)

James Mitchell (footballer, born 1897)
Why did you undo my revisions of this article yesterday while I was still in the process of making corrections to try and get it into an acceptable format? As the article stands it is full of inaccuracies and omissions. It's alright writing that 'sources say 1897' but this is not a good enough reason if the particular source is wrong in what it says. I have thought for a long time that this is an article that needs an almost complete re-write. In particular - the birth year is wrong - it should be 1895; the birth place is wrong - it should be Waddington (near Clitheroe); the information about him being a professional is wrong - he was an amateur throughout his playing career; there is no mention of him playing for Fleetwood FC; there is no mention of him playing for the England Amateur International team - he made 5 appearances; there is no mention of him being picked to play for Amateurs v. Professionals in an FA Charity Shield match; etc. Of course one of the first corrections needed is that the title of the article ought to be 'James Mitchell (footballer, born 1895)'. Please let me know what authority I need for you to allow me to update the article. - Higherwiki / Talk 22:21, 16 December 2019 (UTC)

Thankyou for the reply about reliable sources. I believe that my sources are more reliable than some of the current sources referenced in this article. In particular: The GRO online index of deaths gives his birthdate as 18 November 1895. The 1939 Register also gives this birthdate. The 1911 Census gives his age as 15 (agreeing with a birth year of 1895), and gives his birthplace as Waddington, Yorkshire. The ENFA website (which includes updated information from Michael Joyce) gives a birthdate of 18 Nov 1895 and a birthplace of Waddington (Lancashire) [NOTE: Waddington was actually in Yorkshire at the time of his birth - I am a contributor to ENFA and will suggest this be corrected]. The England Football Online website also gives this same birthdate/birthplace information. The 1920-21 Lancashire Daily Post Football Handbook lists him as a Fleetwood FC player. I also have references for his England Amateur International appearances, and for his FA Charity Shield appearance. He was never a professional. As I said previously, one of the first corrections needed is that the title of the article ought to be 'James Mitchell (footballer, born 1895)'. I hope that this all sounds ok to you. Please let me know if you have any further comments (NOTE : apologies I originally updated your 2019 archive talk page, but have since undone this update). - Higherwiki / Talk 16:16, 22 December 2019 (UTC)

Season's Greetings
FWiW Bzuk (talk) 01:54, 23 December 2019 (UTC)

Arnór Borg Guðjohnsen
Hi. I see that you plan to create the article on Arnór Borg Guðjohnsen as "Arnór Guðjohnsen Jr." when he becomes notable. Please reconsider. He is Icelandic and as such not a "Jr", as that's not an Icelandic phenomenon. Naming the article as such is thus unnecessary anglicization. His full name is Arnór Borg Guðjohnsen, which is enough to distinguish him from his father, who is simply named Arnór Guðjohnsen.

Please consider adding an "Icelandic name" tag at the top of the article as well and to refer to him as "Arnór" in the article, per Surname. 213.220.126.120 (talk) 08:50, 24 December 2019 (UTC)

Happy Holidays
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DYK nomination of Women in law in the United Kingdom
Hello! Your submission of Women in law in the United Kingdom at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and some issues with it may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! BlueMoonset (talk) 07:36, 25 December 2019 (UTC)

Happy Christmas, GiantSnowman!
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Deleted footballers
Hello, and season's greetings! I was wondering if you could help restore a few deleted articles on footballers at the previous Women's World Cup? Seems as though the pages were unfortunately created by a blocked user. However, the articles are notable, and I'd be sure to check they meet quality standards. The articles are: Stefania Tarenzi, Rosalia Pipitone, Kanjanaporn Saengkoon, Sudarat Chucheun, Saowalak Pengngam, Orapin Waenngoen, Phornphirun Philawan, Nadia Olla. Would be greatly appreciated, thanks! S.A. Julio (talk) 20:26, 26 December 2019 (UTC)

Spaces
These spaces are removed automatically by the visual editor. And what is the big deal with them anyway? The spaces actually look terrible and take up a lot of space. Ae245 (talk) 21:55, 26 December 2019 (UTC)

Reliable_sources Regulation Inquiry
Hi, GS! I have a question about Reliable_sources. There is a newspaper article. Newspaper publishing company is notable company. So I think this article is definitely reliable source. But article was issued before 2000s. So We can't found regular article links on internet. But there is a scanned photo of article in private websites. I know wikipedia regards contents of private websites as unreliable sources. In this case, Is scanned photo of article unreliable source? So can't we use scanned photo of article links on wikipedia? I think Private website is just messenger, Essence is a scanned photo of article. I don't understand the difference between scanned photos of articles in private website and scanned photos of articles in Wayback Machine.

Anyway, I can't find detailed regulations about this issue. Please help me. Footwiks (talk) 05:27, 28 December 2019 (UTC)

On Raheem Lawal
Hi, Giant Snowman, recently you have come under the impression that i was vandalizing Raheem Lawal's page by adding 2 instead of 1 appearance for Al-Ittihad Kalba SC but if you check his profile in https://int.soccerway.com/players/raheem-r-lawal/96995/, it shows that he made two appearances for club, once against Al Wahda in the Pro League and second and last apperances against Al Wasl in the League Cup. Can you explain how am i vandalizing his page if i add this note in his page? Badass Flare (talk) 14:24, 28 December 2019 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of Charles Carville


The article Charles Carville has been proposed for deletion&#32;because of the following concern: "Football coach who fails GNG and NFOOTY. Never worked in Fully-pro league"

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Charles Carville
Hi there. I have seen already the reference you mentioned, but what exactly does it prove? Did you check in what divisions Châteauroux and Caen played under this coach? They were amateur clubs, playing in either D3 or somewhere below that. --BlameRuiner (talk) 14:43, 29 December 2019 (UTC)

Thanks for the advice!
As you can tell, still a noob round these parts (: Solid Snack90 (talk) 15:08, 29 December 2019 (UTC)

Nomination of Charles Carville for deletion
A discussion is taking place as to whether the article Charles Carville is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The article will be discussed at Articles for deletion/Charles Carville until a consensus is reached, and anyone, including you, is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.

Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article. BlameRuiner (talk) 16:12, 29 December 2019 (UTC)

Tonny Mawejje
Hi! I was wondering if you could help me regarding this article. I've just been through the revision history and I see that the same user keeps changing the date of birth of this player. There are multiple sources placing his date of birth in 1986, including the Icelandic FA which receives a player's registered day of birth via their Icelandic social security number (date of birth + 4 extra digits) and publishes the year of birth on their website but it keeps getting edited back to 1990. Disregarding all the other sources, the guy played his first senior international in either 2003 or 2004, which seems highly unlikely for someone born in 1990. It seems to be always edited by the same user. I have an inkling about the agenda behind this but this isn't the place to discuss that. Is there any way to protect the date of birth or will it be a constant edit war? Best regards, 89.160.211.7 (talk) 00:59, 31 December 2019 (UTC)

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Mark Sykes
The material I added to Mark Sykes (footballer) is supported by the source. The Soccerbase external link (for all seasons) does not appear inline and is a standard feature of most footballer articles. Your revert has removed context to no benefit to the reader. Why bother? Dave.Dunford (talk) 10:12, 31 December 2019 (UTC)

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