User talk:Giants2008/Archive 14

James Nesbitt filmography
Hi. Thanks for your help in getting James Nesbitt filmography to FL status. Bradley0110 (talk) 20:42, 2 November 2011 (UTC)

2011 WikiCup participation


It was good to have you on board this time around- we hope you enjoyed the competition! In case you are interested, signups for next year are open. Thanks, J Milburn and The ed17 20:51, 2 November 2011 (UTC)

List of Aqua Teen Hunger Force episodes
Don't withdraw the FL nomination. I'll leave my comments on the nomination page some point next week, when I have time. Grapesoda22 (talk) 23:48, 4 November 2011 (UTC)

List of universities in India
Hi there. I just noticed that List of universities in India was not promoted. This is my first FL attempt so please treat this as what it is - me trying to understand the process. To my understanding practically all the problems raised were resolved, why is it then that the article was not promoted? Best regards. --Muhandes (talk) 22:54, 5 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Resolving the issues raised by reviewers isn't enough by itself for a list to be promoted. There also has to be consensus among reviewers that the list should be promoted; a consensus is shown by reviewers' support. If reviewers don't offer support, us directors can't automatically assume that consensus exists. It's unfortunate for you, but the list had been at FLC for a long time (probably too long) and didn't seem to have any momentum indicating that more support was coming. In this case, I thought a clean start at FLC would be better than keeping the old one open longer. If you feel that you've addressed all the issues brought up earlier, you can re-nominate the list. Hopefully it will get more reviewers than it did the first time.  Giants2008  ( 27 and counting ) 01:46, 6 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Is it OK to re-nominate it immediately? Also, how would you suggest I could make editors support it? Is it OK to approach editors who made comments which were addressed and ask for their supports? --Muhandes (talk) 08:20, 6 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Yes, if you feel that all actionable issues have been acted upon. Unfortunately, there's no real way to make reviewers support something, and asking for support from reviewers is frowned upon (it's not that far removed from canvassing). About the best you can do is to leave messages on reviewers' talk pages, telling them you've responded to their concerns and asking them to return to the FLC.  Giants2008  ( 27 and counting ) 16:38, 6 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Good, then I will take the chance to make some updates and renominate, thanks. --Muhandes (talk) 14:18, 7 November 2011 (UTC)

List of Tranmere Rovers F.C. managers
Hey there. TRM suggested I had a word with you. One of the reviewers of this FLC nomination has been quiet for a while. I tried to address his comments and concerns, but don't know if the changes were to his satisfaction. I am concerned that if the reviewer doesn't reappear, the article may fail the "actionable objections have not been resolved" criterion. Would you be able to have a peek? Thanks. U+003F? 12:26, 6 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Cheers for the help. Can I ask for one more piece of advice- the nomination has stagnated somewhat; should I advertise it, say on WP:FOOTBALL, or would that constitute canvassing? U+003F? 19:51, 9 November 2011 (UTC)
 * ... ah, I spotted there was a section for just that, so added the list there. U+003F? 20:29, 9 November 2011 (UTC)

Important
I require your urgent attention at Wikipedia talk:Today's featured list/November 2011.  Night w   12:57, 6 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Hey Giants. I've completed the revision you requested at Talk:List of current sovereign monarchs. Could you take a look and make sure it's all up to scratch?  Night w   15:25, 3 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Can you confirm this is okay now? ...And can it jump the waiting list? ;)  Night w   02:20, 29 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Oh that's okay then Thanks for dealing with all of that.   Night w   06:44, 30 December 2011 (UTC)

List of vegetable oils FLRC
Thanks for the comments in Featured list removal candidates/List of vegetable oils/archive1. I've addressed the issues that you raised. Hopefully you'll consider the article worthy of retaining FL status at this point. Waitak (talk) 14:19, 7 November 2011 (UTC)

1963 Pan American Games medal table
Felipe Menegaz 09:07, 9 November 2011 (UTC)

FLC
Just to tell you that all the issues raise by you here have been addressed, so would be great i you can support/oppose this FLC. ♛♚★Vaibhav Jain★♚♛ Talk Email 10:29, 11 November 2011 (UTC)

List of culinary nuts
I've been working a bit on List of culinary nuts. I'm considering trying to take it to FL. To be clear, I haven't really even started yet, so I'm not asking you to look at as a candidate yet, but I wanted to ask your advice on what direction I might take. I could do something like list of vegetable oils, and write a brief, well-cited entry for each nut, perhaps including nutritional properties, and anything else that is special about each nut. On the other hand, I could just try to keep it simple, beef up the references, and leave it at that. I'd also want to make sure that the article covers all culinary nuts, of course. Any thoughts on what direction seems appropriate? Waitak (talk) 02:04, 19 November 2011 (UTC)


 * That's kind of where my intuition went as well. I'd like to tackle a few more FL's, and this seems like a good one to start with. See you there! Waitak (talk) 02:44, 19 November 2011 (UTC)


 * I note that after submitting the article as an FLC last Saturday, the page is not marked as "patrolled" yet. Does that have any consequences for it being visible to people who might be interested in participating in the discussion? Waitak (talk) 20:14, 2 December 2011 (UTC)

Those American reptiles are hungry for attention


Please consider running "U.S. state reptiles" in your TFL slot.TCO (talk) 16:30, 4 December 2011 (UTC)

DYK for Doc Adams
Orlady (talk) 22:23, 4 December 2011 (UTC) 08:02, 5 December 2011 (UTC)

Works of Rambhadracharya
Can you tell why did you closed this as unsuccessful? Thanks. ♛♚★Vaibhav Jain★♚♛ Talk Email 10:16, 12 December 2011 (UTC)

Talkback
♛♚★Vaibhav Jain★♚♛ Talk Email 17:21, 13 December 2011 (UTC)

FLC for List of universities in India
Hi Giants2008. I am contacting you since at the previous nomination you made some comments which were fully addressed to the best of my knowledge. Sadly, the previous nomination was rejected due to lack of support. Since then the list was split, but the matters you referred to last time remain corrected. I would appreciate it if you could comment on the list, and perhaps voice your support if you think the list deserves it. Best regards. --Muhandes (talk) 16:00, 14 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Thanks for your comments. Last time I believe all comments by all reviewers were addressed but the list was still not promoted due to lack of support. Would you consider supporting the list? Best regards. --Muhandes (talk) 14:11, 15 December 2011 (UTC)
 * It's difficult for me to offer support in my position as FL director, since I need to be unbiased when closing FLCs. I probably support too many lists as is (usually sport-related ones); it's then hard for me to want to close them, which is a problem since I'm the most frequent closer at the moment. I see your list has one support already; hopefully it will get more reviews soon. Oh, and please be careful about asking people to support something. I don't think you have anything but the best intentions, but some may think of an explicit request for support as canvassing. You're better off just asking for reviews in a situation like this. Giants2008  ( Talk ) 03:25, 16 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Thanks for your response, I was not aware of your position. The only reason I am asking for support is that last attempt I was passive, the list got several reviews, I spent several weeks working to address them all, all issues were addressed, and yet the list was not promoted due to lack of support. I thought I'll ask the reviewers which already reviewed the list to do so again, and then I asked only the reviewers that got their comments addressed to support, if they see fit. As I approached all reviewers for a second review, not just the supporters, I thought this would not be considered canvassing. I also mentioned the fact at the nomination's text. Anyway, I now fully understand that as director you cannot support lists. Best regards. --Muhandes (talk) 18:21, 17 December 2011 (UTC)

Re: Image question
Hi Giants2008. The first rule in US Copyright law is to determine publication status. Without evidence that it was published before 1923, we would have to look for any post-1923 publication and treat it as first publication (provided the copyright owner was the one who authorized it).

In the alt text of the image (on the site) in question, it states "Harold Peterson, author of The Man Who Invented Baseball, has conjectured that ..."; I take this statement to mean that Peterson might have obtained permission to print the photograph in The Man Who Invented Baseball (1973). If he clearly states the providence of the photograph (and if it is quite likely the owner has copyright: in the US, material unpublished until 2002 was guaranteed infinite copyright duration; after 2002, if still unpublished we go by the 70-year/120-year rule), then we would take 1973 as the first publication and determine the duration of the copyright. If published with notice, 95 years; if not, public domain.

I am afraid in this case, you would have to locate the book to find out if a valid publication was made and if a copyright notice was at the front of the book (or on the reproduction of the photograph within). If Peterson states the photograph came from some other publication, we would have do investigating there. Jappalang (talk) 00:33, 17 December 2011 (UTC)

FLC question
Hey Giants, just noticed this promotion, but Featured list candidates/Philadelphia Phillies all-time roster/archive1 doesn't have a closing note. I'd like to try and get the FTC going tonight if I can; is there any chance that can be marked as closed? Thanks! &mdash; KV5  •  Talk  •  22:18, 19 December 2011 (UTC)

Featured list candidates/List of international cricket centuries by V. V. S. Laxman/archive1
Could you explain why this article was not promoted. &mdash; Commander (Ping me) 11:55, 20 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Agree, but I have resolved most of the issues and gave enough explanations for having a separate page. &mdash; Commander (Ping me) 17:39, 20 December 2011 (UTC)

Talkback
– HonorTheKing (talk) 12:11, 22 December 2011 (UTC)

Joe Lillard
Hello. In your edits on Joe Lillard you have a reference that Lillard was an All-American in football and baseball at Oregon. I see no corroborative evidence of this on any of the All American sites. Lillard only played two games of varsity football at Oregon before he was declared ineligible by the Pacific Coast Conference for playing semipro baseball under an assumed name, so it is unlikely he would have been nominated as an All American, and he is not listed by the University as having AA status (the school lists all players who are named to any AA team in its annual football media guide). And I haven't found any records of him ever playing baseball at Oregon, possibly because he would have automatically been ineligible, having admitted playing semipro ball.

It appears the source cited in support of the detail may have been published directly from a press release or other promotional information without verification, as publicity for "Camp Unity."

Lillard's story is interesting enough. I'd rather not jump into your edit, but I suggest getting some legitimate sourcing for the AA claim, or removing it from the wiki. Abdoozy (talk) 06:52, 27 December 2011 (UTC)

FLC of Malmö FF in Europe
Hi!

I noticed that you voted keep in the discussion of removing FL status of Rosenborg BK in Europe. The same user that nominated the list for FLRC also opposed the FLC of Malmö FF in Europe based on the same reasons. Would you care to take a look at the FLC? As of now there haven't been much discussion except for the opposition by NapHit. Thanks! --Reckless182 (talk) 23:22, 27 December 2011 (UTC)

Pacific hurricanes
Hey, thanks for the FLC review! I've addressed all but one; see my reply on its candidacy page.  HurricaneFan 25  —  15:12, 29 December 2011 (UTC)

Welcome to the 2012 WikiCup
Hello, and welcome to the 2012 WikiCup! The competition officially begins at the start of 2012 (UTC) after which time you may begin to claim points. Your submission page, where you must note any content for which you wish to claim points, can be found here, and formatting instructions can be found in hidden comments on the page. A bot will then update the main table, which can be seen on the WikiCup page. The full rules for what will and will not be awarded points can be found at WikiCup/Scoring. There's also a section on that page listing the changes that have been made to the rules this year, so that experienced participants can get up-to-date in a few seconds. One point of which we must remind everyone; you may only claim points for content upon which you have done significant work, and which you have nominated, in 2012. For instance, articles written or good article reviews started in 2011 are not eligible for points.

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Peer Review
Hi, I had listed this article for peer review. Your suggestions are most welcome. &mdash; Commander (Ping me) 16:49, 2 January 2012 (UTC)

Talkback
&mdash; Commander (Ping me) 09:48, 4 January 2012 (UTC)

List of Houston Texans Pro Bowl selections
Hehe - you should never be sorry to correct me when I'm wrong! I must admit that being a Brit, I know nothing about American Football, so I found the lead interesting, but I have no idea of the accuracy of the contents or what requires a reference, so I shouldn't have been so affirmative. I was trying to say something nice but innocuous before the criticism! It does go to show how important it is to have several sets of eyes on all nominations, and it's fortunate that you have the expertise to give constructive criticism to Buggie. Keep up the great work! --RexxS (talk) 09:00, 5 January 2012 (UTC)

George Orwell bibliography
This is scheduled to run at TFL next Monday but I've had some concerns raised on its suitability given several unreferenced sections. If you get a chance, could you take a look at it for me? Cheers. The Rambling Man (talk) 07:47, 9 January 2012 (UTC)

Sourcing for George Orwell bibliography
Please assist I was directed here by User:HonorTheKing and User:The Rambling Man regarding sourcing issues on this featured list which is due to appear on the Main Page in a few days. Please tell me what you think is deficient on that article's talk page and I will amend it as necessary. Note: this notice is being placed on multiple talk pages at once. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 13:11, 9 January 2012 (UTC)
 * I'll give it a couple of days, I can't believe, looking back, that it received so much support from so many of our regulars, only just over a year ago... Ouch. The Rambling Man (talk) 18:01, 9 January 2012 (UTC)

Featured list candidates/List of papal elections/archive1
Please let me know if I have addressed your comments. Savidan 04:14, 13 January 2012 (UTC)

Response at William S. Clark FAC discussion
You have a response over here. Thanks! ··· 日本穣 ? · 投稿  · Talk to Nihonjoe ·  Join WP Japan ! 23:16, 14 January 2012 (UTC)

DYK for Roy Cooper (rodeo)
— HJ Mitchell &#124;  Penny for your thoughts?  16:03, 16 January 2012 (UTC)

Talkback
&mdash; Vensatry (Ping me)  12:39, 17 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Do have a look at the page. &mdash; Vensatry (Ping me)  09:47, 21 January 2012 (UTC)

| List of ICC Cricket World Cup finals FLC
Just to inform you that The Rambling Man has attended to your comments on the FLC page. Would appreciate if you could have a look and see if your happy with the current version. Thanks, Around The Globe  सत्यमेव जयते 06:15, 21 January 2012 (UTC)
 * My bad, done. Thank you and Thank you. Cheers, Around The Globe  सत्यमेव जयते 05:18, 22 January 2012 (UTC)

List of India ODI cricketers
please have a look now I have fixed most of things you have pointed out. more suggestions are welcome. posted the same comments |on nomination page--Vyom25 (talk) 07:37, 21 January 2012 (UTC)
 * do have another look. I have fixed most of your suggestions.--Vyom25 (talk) 10:09, 23 January 2012 (UTC)

I am looking forward to your suggestions. whenever you have some time please take a look at the article.--Vyom25 (talk) 09:22, 28 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Thank you for your suggestions on the article. You provided good directions thanks for that again. In future if you feel like giving more directions you are most welcome.--Vyom25 (talk) 13:23, 31 January 2012 (UTC)

Featured list candidates/Jennifer Lopez filmography/archive1
I think it's time for a result. :) — Status  &#x7B;<sup style="margin-left:0.37ex;">talk <sub style="margin-left:-3ex;">contribs  21:00, 23 January 2012 (UTC)
 * I wasn't asking for it to be put through now. I meant, if you could leave any additional comments/concerns, etc. down. Hmm, I'll see if there's anything I can look at. I've only ever contributed to one before, so I don't know how much help I could be. — Status  &#x7B;<sup style="margin-left:0.37ex;">talk <sub style="margin-left:-3ex;">contribs  23:57, 23 January 2012 (UTC)

Featured list candidates/List of India Twenty20 International cricketers/archive1
Waiting for eventual comments. &mdash; Vensatry <sub style="color:indigo;">(Ping me)  10:29, 24 January 2012 (UTC)

Jonathan Agnew
Thanks for the comments, I think they've all been addressed. --Dweller (talk) 14:54, 25 January 2012 (UTC)

Re: Grammy
Sorry Giants! I have replied to the comments and fixed the issues. Ryōga Hibiki ( talk  &bull;  contribs  ) 07:26, 29 January 2012 (UTC)

WikiCup 2012 January newsletter
WikiCup 2012 is off to a flying start. At the time of writing, we have 112 contestants; comparable to last year, but slightly fewer than 2010. Signups will remain open for another week, after which time they will be closed for this year. Our currrent far-away leader is, due mostly to his work on a slew of good articles about The X-Files; there remain many such articles waiting to be reviewed at good article candidates. Second place is currently held by, whose points come mostly from good articles about television episodes, although good article reviews, did you knows and an article about a baroness round out the score. In third place is, who has scored 200 points for his work on a single featured article, as well as points for work on others, mostly in the area of pop music. In all, nine users have 100 or more points. However, at the other end of the scale, there are still dozens of participants who are yet to score. Please remember to update your submission pages promptly!

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 * was also the first to score points for an article, thanks to his work on Hurricane Debby (1982)- now a good article. Tropical storms have featured heavily in the Cup, and good articles currently have a relatively fast turnaround time for reviews.
 * was the first to score points for a did you know, with Russian submarine K-114 Tula. Military history is another subject which has seen a lot of Cup activity.
 * is also the first person to successfully claim bonus points. Terminator 2: Judgment Day is now a good article, and was eligible for bonus points because the subject was covered on more than 20 other Wikipedias at the start of the competition. It is fantastic to see bonus points being claimed so early!
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