User talk:Giants2008/Archive 26

William Wurtenburg
Hello Giants2008, This is just a friendly notification that I have replied to your concerns at William Wurtenburg's FAC. Thanks for the comments. If you would be willing, List of Navy Midshipmen head football coaches has been at FLC for a similar amount of time with no comments. Thanks again, - A Texas Historian (Talk to me) 22:54, 6 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Just following up: I have addressed your remaining concern with the article. Thanks again, - A Texas Historian (Talk to me) 22:14, 11 November 2014 (UTC)

2008 Oscars
Hi there,

It's been quite awhile, but I was busy helping to prepare for my sisters debut. Could you kindly proofread 80th Academy Awards regarding featured list promotion? I know you are very busy, but I would appreciate the help.
 * --Birdienest81 (talk) 02:37, 12 November 2014 (UTC)

Today's featured list/December 15, 2014
Hey, I know this is kind of late, but I just realized that Counties of Romania is scheduled for Dec 15. Unless there is some technical issues with this, I would propose have it moved to Dec 1, since the National Day of Romania is celebrated on December 1. Let me know what you think. Nergaal (talk) 22:58, 21 November 2014 (UTC)

FLC manual closure needed
Hi. Hope you're well. We're doing pretty good in terms of manual closures. Unfortunately can't close these as COI. Only these remain and we'll be up to date:

Promotions:

List of awards and nominations received by Louie, Robert Downey, Jr. filmography, Tom Hanks on screen and stage, List of accolades received by Blue Jasmine, Leonardo DiCaprio filmography, and Sandra Bullock filmography.

Delist: Christopher Walken filmography.

Some of them are partially done by other users. Cowlibob (talk) 12:13, 22 November 2014 (UTC)


 * Thanks for starting to close these. Only three left now! They only need the FLC discussion page to be closed. Also could you please add a closure note to the FLC discussion page of the one you promoted recently (Featured list candidates/Justin Timberlake discography/archive1) so that I can manually close it? Cowlibob (talk) 18:48, 1 December 2014 (UTC)
 * It took me longer than I wanted to finish the last batch, but all of the closures should be complete now. Thanks for alerting me to this issue, and for your efforts to cut off such problems as they arise. Giants2008  ( Talk ) 00:14, 4 December 2014 (UTC)
 * Thanks for doing them. Hopefully the new FACBot gets approved soon so that FLCs could be added to its joblist. Cowlibob (talk) 17:28, 5 December 2014 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of History of the New York Yankees
Hi there, I'm pleased to inform you that I've begun reviewing the article History of the New York Yankees you nominated for GA-status according to the criteria. This process may take up to 7 days. Feel free to contact me with any questions or comments you might have during this period. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Secret -- Secret (talk) 01:41, 3 December 2014 (UTC)

Found error in featured list
Hi, I found several errors in the featured list but I'm not sure how to correct them, or who to contact. You were named as the delegate, so I will try here. The lists List of British Columbia general elections, List of Manitoba general elections, List of post-confederation New Brunswick general elections, List of post-confederation Nova Scotia general elections, List of Ontario general elections, List of Quebec general elections, List of Saskatchewan general elections, and List of Newfoundland and Labrador general elections were all demoted in 2010 for having no citations whatsoever. However they remains on the main featured list, and still have the star. Would you be able to tell me how to correct this? Thanks. Mattximus (talk) 02:00, 7 December 2014 (UTC)

WikiCup 2015 is just around the corner...
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FLC request
Hi, could you review this nomination when you get time? &mdash; Vensatry (ping) 19:13, 13 December 2014 (UTC)

Locked in for April 24?
Hello Giants,

I just want to double check if you're willing to lock in Deportation of Armenian intellectuals on 24 April 1915 for the main page on April 24, 2015. Is it still too early to have it locked? Let me know, Étienne Dolet (talk) 07:59, 25 December 2014 (UTC)

DYK for 1979 NCAA Men's Division I Basketball Championship Game
 Harrias  talk 00:02, 28 December 2014 (UTC)

WikiCup 2015 launch newsletter
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1995 Oscars
Hi there,

Could you proofread 67th Academy Awards for featured list promotion? I am on vacation, so I will have a little more time to read feedback. I would appreciate the help.
 * --Birdienest81 (talk) 03:09, 8 January 2015 (UTC)

FLRC
WP:FLRC has three active listings, not a single one of which has had any action since November. Any idea why the listings are so inactive? Ten Pound Hammer • (What did I screw up now?) 17:53, 8 January 2015 (UTC)


 * A slight correction: only one was filed in November. One was filed on 17 December and one only eleven days ago. The main crux of your point, hoever, that FLRC is a moribund part of FL-land, still holds true, given the previous noms that have passed through. - SchroCat (talk) 18:25, 8 January 2015 (UTC)
 * I have posted at WT:CD asking for suggestions on how to liven up FLRC. Ten Pound Hammer • (What did I screw up now?) 18:59, 8 January 2015 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of History of the New York Yankees
The article History of the New York Yankees you nominated as a good article has been placed on hold. The article is close to meeting the good article criteria, but there are some minor changes or clarifications needing to be addressed. If these are fixed within 7 days, the article will pass; otherwise it may fail. See Talk:History of the New York Yankees for things which need to be addressed. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Wizardman -- Wizardman (talk) 00:40, 12 January 2015 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of History of the New York Yankees
The article History of the New York Yankees you nominated as a good article has passed ; see Talk:History of the New York Yankees for comments about the article. Well done! If the article has not already been on the main page as an "In the news" or "Did you know" item, you can nominate it to appear in Did you know. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Wizardman -- Wizardman (talk) 23:41, 12 January 2015 (UTC)

List of clergy educated at Jesus College, Oxford
Please pull this from the main page. I only just spotted that it was scheduled when browsing an unrelated page which mentioned it (WP:FTMAIN). I do not appreciate lists where I am the primary editor being nominated and scheduled with absolutely no notice to me. This is not the first time this has happened, either. The page needs updating - first of all, there are a number of clergy articles that have been written in the last few years by other people that need to be added; next, the article is tagged as having deadlinks and citation parameters in need of updating. It is not in delisting territory but it needs a clean-up and I am not going to have time to do this in the next few days. I strongly suggest that you introduce a rule at TFL to match the TFA rule - nominators of someone else's work ought to notify the principal editor(s), where they are still active. Failing that, it would be good to follow TFA practice and notify editors when something is scheduled, rather than hope that they spot an edit on their watchlist changing the article history on the list's talk page. Thank you. BencherliteTalk 22:35, 19 January 2015 (UTC)


 * Update: I've reverted many of Neelix's recent changes to the list because they were not improvements, but I have now started on the required improvements. The TFL blurb was awful, I'm sorry to say, so I've rewritten that, just in case you insist on keeping this in the TFL queue. I have fixed the deadlink but I need to resolve the page's membership of Category:Pages containing cite templates with deprecated parameters. FYI, a sweep of Category:Jesus College, Oxford subcategories a couple of weeks ago showed me that there are about 40 or 50 alumni or fellows to add to the various lists - this is not something I can do overnight, especially where I need to find FL-level references to show that Dr X or the Reverend Y went to Jesus College.  Thanks for your understanding and my apologies for being a bit snappy earlier - having been in your shoes as TFA scheduler for two years, I know how difficult and unrewarding the job can be and how having people snap at you isn't the best approach! BencherliteTalk 23:43, 19 January 2015 (UTC)


 * Bencherlite, this isn't your fault, but you picked a really bad time to bring this up, with a vital CPA exam coming up this weekend, a lack of suitable replacements at TFLS, and a bunch of other stuff to do here. Anyway, your list is gone and I wrote a crappy replacement blurb in about 15 minutes for the FL community to pick apart as they please. I was under the impression that primary editors would notice when the talk pages of their lists reflected the future appearance, but perhaps that's limiting. Giants2008  ( Talk ) 00:34, 20 January 2015 (UTC)
 * Yes it is limiting and I suggest that TFL stops relying on that. I wasn't looking out for such an appearance in my watchlist and I obviously missed it during a period of the year when I wasn't editing as often as at other times, and when what time I had wasn't being spent seeing whether someone had nominated one of "my" lists for the main page behind my back. Thank you for finding something else - it is appreciated. BencherliteTalk 00:56, 20 January 2015 (UTC)

DYK for History of the New York Yankees
— Crisco 1492 (talk) 00:29, 27 January 2015 (UTC)

FLC request
Hi, could you spend sometime reviewing this nomination? &mdash; Vensatry (ping) 16:43, 28 January 2015 (UTC)

List of English Heritage properties in Somerset
Thanks for letting me know List of English Heritage properties in Somerset will be TFL. The blurb looks fine & I have run checklinks without any problems. It's fairly recently promoted so shouldn't be any changes needed.&mdash; Rod talk 17:47, 28 January 2015 (UTC)

How should the performers table be formatted
I've initiated a discussion at Talk:86th Academy Awards of how the performers table should be formatted because Atomic Meltdown and I were in a dispute resulting in warnings about being blocked. I think there should be consensus, and since you are an expert on film articles, I would like your feedback, please.
 * --Birdienest81 (talk) 19:46, 11 February 2015 (UTC)

DYK for Roy Simmons Sr.
&mdash; Coffee //  have a cup  //  beans  // 12:06, 28 February 2015 (UTC)

WikiCup 2015 March newsletter
That's it, the first round is done, sign-ups are closed and we're into round 2. 64 competitors made it into this round, and are now broken into eight groups of eight. The top two of each group will go through to round 3, and then the top scoring 16 "wildcards" across all groups. Round 1 saw some interesting work on some very important articles, with the round leader owing most of his 622 points scored to a Featured Article on the 2001 film Final Fantasy: The Spirits Within which qualified for a times-two multiplier. This is a higher score than in previous years, as had 500 points in 2014 at the end of round 1, and our very own judge,  led round 1 with 601 points in 2013.

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 * developed an extremely timely article to Good Article, taking Magna Carta there some 800 years after it was first sealed;
 * And last but not least, worked up a number of Featured Pictures during round 1, including the 1948 one Deutsche Mark (pictured right), receiving the maximum bonus due to the number of Wikis that the related article appears in.

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WikiCup 2015 March newsletter
That's it, the first round is done, sign-ups are closed and we're into round 2. 64 competitors made it into this round, and are now broken into eight groups of eight. The top two of each group will go through to round 3, and then the top scoring 16 "wildcards" across all groups. Round 1 saw some interesting work on some very important articles, with the round leader owing most of his 622 points scored to a Featured Article on the 2001 film Final Fantasy: The Spirits Within which qualified for a times-two multiplier. This is a higher score than in previous years, as had 500 points in 2014 at the end of round 1, and our very own judge,  led round 1 with 601 points in 2013.

In addition to Freikorp's work, some other important articles and pictures were improved during round one, here's a snapshot of a few of them:
 * took Bumblebee, a level-4 vital article, to Good Article;
 * worked-up the Malaysia Airlines Flight 370 article, also to Good Article status;
 * developed an extremely timely article to Good Article, taking Magna Carta there some 800 years after it was first sealed;
 * And last but not least, worked up a number of Featured Pictures during round 1, including the 1948 one Deutsche Mark (pictured right), receiving the maximum bonus due to the number of Wikis that the related article appears in.

You may also wish to know that The Core Contest is running through the month of March. Head there for further details - they even have actual prizes!

If you are concerned that your nomination—whether it is at good article candidates, a featured process, or anywhere else—will not receive the necessary reviews, please list it on WikiCup/Reviews. Questions are welcome on Wikipedia talk:WikiCup, and the judges are reachable on their talk pages or by email. Good luck! If you wish to start or stop receiving this newsletter, please feel free to add or remove yourself from WikiCup/Newsletter/Send. , and

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TFL
Oh, awesome! Glad to see that. Everything looks fine to me.  Toa   Nidhiki05  22:33, 9 March 2015 (UTC)

Videos and citation sources
I have a question regarding the use of videos as sources. In the performers section of 84th Academy Awards list, some users (including 'Atomic Meltdown) want to put the songs (or actually singing about the Best Picture nominees in tune with popular songs) that host Billy Crystal performed in his opening monologue. Atomic Meltdown uses this article from The Hollywood Reporter as a source. The article contains a video of Billy Crystal performing the songs, but the article itself does not say or indicate word for word in the text what he is actually singing (i.e. singing about Midnight in Paris to the tune of "The Last Time I Saw Paris"). I know what Crystal sang is true, but for the sake of Wikipedia standards, is this acceptable?

BTW, could you review the 63rd Academy Awards?
 * --Birdienest81 (talk) 06:29, 13 March 2015 (UTC)

1991 Oscars
I have responded to your comments regarding the 63rd Academy Awards for featured list promotion and have swiftly responded.
 * --Birdienest81 (talk) 04:20, 19 March 2015 (UTC)

Tim Howard
Hey! Do you ever work on soccer articles? Or do you know an FA writer who does? Tim Howard is "dual famous"-- he is not only the best known US soccer player (after his record 15 saves in the 2014 World Cup); he is also the most recognized person in the world with Tourette syndrome. He published a book in December 2014, and I've been wanting to tackle his article, but it is in terrible shape, and I don't think I can do it alone. Are you game, or do you know anyone who might be ? Bst, Sandy Georgia (Talk) 18:54, 22 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Ah, ha ... I went snooping in WP:WBFAN and see that, , and  are the go-to guys ... maybe we can start a collaboration?  I've got the book and the TS knowledge, but lack the football knowledge (and his article is dreadful, and has likely copyvio, so we will need to start over). Sandy Georgia  (Talk) 18:59, 22 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Happy to help if I get the time. The Rambling Man (talk) 20:18, 22 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Hi Sandy! I'd rate my soccer knowledge at about a 6.5 out of 10; I know that Howard had a great 2014 World Cup performance and was on an FA Cup-winning team, but any fine discussions about his skill set are probably going to be too advanced for me. If I do make some contributions to the article, which I will time permitting, I don't want any credit for it on the WBFAN list. It's your idea, and chances are I wouldn't consider myself a primary contributer to the article. I'm in my busy season in real life, and still have a couple of improvements to make to the New Jersey Devils article for FAR, so it may be a few weeks before I can devote much time to Mr. Howard. If you want more contributors, Cptnono has done some recent soccer FAs and may be helpful for you. Giants2008  ( Talk ) 21:29, 22 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the ideas, Giants ... it's funny that I've been "away" so long that I had forgotten who the top football/soccer editors were ! I can't do anything on the soccer/football front, but I am reading through his book now, and there is material for a wonderful article.  I followed Howard before he was anybody in soccer, and was sorry that Tourette syndrome wasn't run TFA at the time of his world cup success (I think we've lost the flexibility at TFA to be able to take advantage of last-minute opportunities like that). It's not just the soccer success story ... there's a rags to riches aspect (all that his mother had to do to help him along), overcoming the difficulties of a childhood with Tourette's and using it to his advantage, going on to help others with tics, coming up in soccer at a time the sport was just getting more recognized in the US ... there are many aspects to his story that could be a great read.  I can add all the personal, inspirational, what motivated him, and TS stuff, but can't do anything unless someone helps with the sports aspects.  I'm in no hurry!  Bst, Sandy Georgia  (Talk) 00:00, 23 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Add away and I can look into the sporting side. I don't know much about him except for some epic saves but it looks like there is already a base to work off of.Cptnono (talk) 04:34, 23 March 2015 (UTC)
 * I'm concerned about adding too much before what is there is cleaned up. I suspect there is copyvio that goes all the way back to 2007, and I suspect that a lot of the uncited text that was in there got picked up by what would now be considered reliable sources, meaning we now have mirrors of Wikipedia that may be reporting uncited text ... I've found several instances of that ... so I'm going very slow on adding anything. And, I'm finding a frustrating aspect of his book is that he doesn't always mention years for things, so I need to use complementary sources. And he doesn't always use last names!  I had to go figure out that his agent, Dan, is Dan Segal.  argh.  And ... he has made contradictory statements.  Back in 2003, he was saying his tics had no impact on his play.  These days, he credits his neurobiology for his success on the field. Sandy Georgia  (Talk) 13:33, 23 March 2015 (UTC)
 * If the text is that faulty, I'd just rewrite it from scratch. It takes longer, but the end result will be better and you won't risk leaving any copyvio. As an example from my recent past, I did a mammoth renovation of History of the New York Yankees (only click the link if you think War and Peace wasn't long enough to grab your interest, or if you gave up on Boston after last year), and I'd be surprised if I left more than a handful of sentences from the original article. Regarding sourcing, you won't have any problems finding reliable articles on his national team career or his time in England. Your biggest challenge will be finding information on his MLS years. I have access to a university library (at least for now), but I don't know how much the New York Times would have covered him. Soccer was a minor sport here at the time, and the then-MetroStars were rarely competitive from what I remember. Giants2008  ( Talk ) 19:17, 23 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Yes, Howard is a candidate that needs to be rewritten from scratch. He goes into a good deal of detail in his book on his MLS years, so even though I wouldn't take his word for it, there's enough there to know what info to search for in independent sources.  Giants, I am shocked, appalled and dismayed that you would suggest I go anywhere near a Yankees article!  Apparently, my reputation does not precede me!!.  I'm going to be traveling through Easter, so won't get much done ... Bst, Sandy Georgia  (Talk) 00:57, 24 March 2015 (UTC)
 * I saw that Giants just made an edit. I have literally (really literally) rewritten the Imperials to Metrostars paragraph 5 times but deleted it each time. There is some fun sourcing. My favorite talked about how the Imperials were worried about signing him to a $250/wk contract since it would present him from college ball and an other that spoke about him getting razzed by older gys and being on the road. Really cool stuff. I'm having a hard time putting it together in a coherent narrative. This is probably because I am drunk but I also noticed that the prose contradict the table (6 starts vs 16). I think it would be awesome if you just went to town with the book and the preexisting sources. I'm pretty sure that I can hammer out the sourcing and other gnomish activities if you just go for it. I want to grab that book now so we'll at least be on the same page (hehe... word play).Cptnono (talk) 04:48, 3 April 2015 (UTC)
 * I am still catching up from more than a week traveling, so I've made no progress whatsoever ... slow start here ! Sandy Georgia  (Talk) 14:09, 4 April 2015 (UTC)

1991 Oscars
Hi there,

I added the comma and changed an to a.
 * --Birdienest81 (talk) 20:25, 22 March 2015 (UTC)

2011 Oscars
Hi there,

Could you proofread 83rd Academy Awards for featured list promotion? I would appreciate the help.
 * --Birdienest81 (talk) 07:12, 25 March 2015 (UTC)