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Oakland Athletics minor league players
Thanks for that link to the Afd on the Detroit Tigers / MLB minor league teams. I'd seen the discussion there before but I wasn't aware a consensus had been reached. Radiant chains (talk) 02:34, 30 March 2009 (UTC)
 * No problem, I mean I personally don't see the point of having the non-notable guys on a non-notable list but while it's there we might as well use the page.-- Giants27 T/  C  02:36, 30 March 2009 (UTC)

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 * Why do I always get soccer teams? Cause some people call it football? Insane. Others I think are good, and will get to them when I get a chance. Thanks.-- Giants27 T/  C  19:25, 30 March 2009 (UTC)

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Rocky Cherry (baseball player)
I note from the article's history that you were the one to last edit it. Thanks for that! My question based on your edit, though, is the following:

Do you have a substantive link that can say for sure that he received an invite to ST?

This is the Red Sox' official list from MLB.com:

http://boston.redsox.mlb.com/team/roster_nri.jsp?c_id=bos

No Cherry listed on there.

I also ask because, I'm creating a roster file for the latest version of a baseball simulation game called Baseball Mogul. In addition to the roster file, I have a separate file of non-roster invitees (as per MLB.com), so that I can ensure I add all of those to the roster file, and, on the correct teams.

This link, http://www.baseballamerica.com/blog/prospects/?p=3011, along with others, tend to support the fact that he was signed by the Red Sox. None, however, can substantiate your edit for the non-roster invitation to ST. —Preceding unsigned comment added by GOYANKSGONJ (talk • contribs) 05:08, 2 April 2009 (UTC)
 * That was an error, go ahead and remove it.-- Giants27 : Chat  18:56, 2 April 2009 (UTC)

Question
Saw your name on the Adop list, you were the only one listing NFL as your topic, Please contact me before I screw something up (on accident)

David.snipes (talk) 17:32, 2 April 2009 (UTC)

Whoop too late- I had something deleted already. David.snipes (talk) 20:40, 2 April 2009 (UTC)

ok What did I do wrong here?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Loverne --David.snipes (talk) 20:41, 2 April 2009 (UTC)


 * Ok Last one for today (before you hunt me down)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_East_Carolina_University_alumni#American_Football

I added troy smith- when I inserted the Link- it directed to the ravens QB- the only way I could get the correct player was to add the remaineder. How do I fix this? David.snipes (talk) 21:15, 2 April 2009 (UTC)


 * Nevermind I figured it out!! Whoo-Hoo, now I'll go fix another red-link, screw that up and bug you about that one instead! David.snipes (talk) 21:36, 2 April 2009 (UTC)

Notability
ok.

What is included in noteable?

In the NFL Draft- every pick is notable, and looking at someguidelines there are a TON of players that are no longer considered noteable but were back in the prism of time.

Each and every pick in the 2006 Draft has his own Wiki-page from 1-255 and other notable players, but the 1996 Draft has a bunch of Red Lines, the first one at pick 38! The Second Round Alone has 5 Redlinks. The fourth Round only links to 15 player pages after I fixed the Donnie_Edwards one

under the http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Notability link (thanks to Aktsu for the link) They should ALL have thier own pages. I call into these two "laws" on that page

-- Notability requires objective evidence

-- Notability is not temporary

If the year is 2019, are the 2006 picks as relevant as the 1996 picks are today? SO.

1. We need to wait until 5 years after the draft to create anypages- to ensure they do something

2. We (users) are going to be deleting a TON of pages every year.

Objective evidence is there- there are a TON of pages dedicated to each draft pick on ESPN,CNNSI,NFL(or the other sports) etc.

And if by the standards- they are not temporary- they are still listed in the history of the NFL and that team.

Back to the Jason Thacker(etc) pages.

1. The Ultimate Fighter launched the UFC in the American Mindset- and long after all those fighters are retired they will still be looked at as long as the UFC and MMA as a whole are around (kind of like Super Bowl is to the NFL) I think each and every person on that show contributed to its success.

2. I look at Wiki as a web-equvilent of The Enclopedia, When you go to a page in the book- you do not see a article that says, please see the New York Times, I don't feel that we should click on Jason Von Flue and get a responce, please see Sherdog as A) Wiki is subject to THIER content, and b) They do have ads&opinions two things Wiki avoids.

Sorry for the long post, but I was intending to do a good bit of work on the redlinks- as I am almost OCD on completeness, I don't want to begin a futile project and want to make sure I stay up to the standards people like you set. David.snipes (talk) 15:16, 3 April 2009 (UTC)


 * ok, so bottom line (as far as the NFL Draft goes- if they
 * A- got in one game
 * B- Was on a roster for a year
 * C- College stats warrent inclusion


 * Put them in? (or in your book)--David.snipes (talk) 01:06, 4 April 2009 (UTC)

Hows THis?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:David.snipes/Sandbox_3 --David.snipes (talk) 00:00, 4 April 2009 (UTC)

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Bothering 4/6/09
Feel free to kill these after you answer so I don;t look that stupid

Do you think we should add the following to active(or impotant players) under external links

EX

Donovan McNabb

Stats:

www.pro-football-reference.com/players/M/McNaDo00.htm

Career Review

www.philadelphiaeagles.com/team/player60.html www.informativesports.com/Articles/Draft/1999_draft_series_Philly.htm

Also is there like a be-all end-all we can ask questions to or are we just to do what we feel is correct and the admins make a call when they want to?

--David.snipes (talk) 15:56, 6 April 2009 (UTC)

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 * I'll try to catch the rest of them - & you understand that they'll be deleted w/out your being informed. Skier Dude  ( talk ) 00:44, 8 April 2009 (UTC)

Bothering Question 7,813
On pages such as Carolina Panthers Should I go through and add things that are on other teams pages (such as All Time Draft Picks, Retired Numbers, etc) or should I just put it on the discussion page and see if someone else wants to do so?

I could put it on a sandbox and have someone (hint hint) look at it before I post it. --David.snipes (talk) 16:20, 7 April 2009 (UTC)

User: gjr_rodriguez
All the minor league stubs you are putting up for deletion meet the criteria of WP:Baseball. Please remove all the deletion template from the stubs you have placed them on. If you want more information, read up on WP:Baseball. Gjr rodriguez (talk) 02:39, 8 April 2009 (UTC)


 * Ummm....how about no.-- Giants27 T/  C  02:39, 8 April 2009 (UTC)

AFD
The only one I think should be kept is Chris Nelson (baseball), because he is on the Rockies 40 man roster. Also he reminds me of someone we know lol--Yankees10 00:39, 9 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Oh man never noticed that, my bad. And lol, I thought of that when I nominated it.-- Giants27 T/  C  00:50, 9 April 2009 (UTC)

Your not gonna stop the stubs, everyone has figured it out except you, apparently. So instead of deleting, do something to add to the encyclopedia. Rather than retard information from people. If you believe there is an approproate way to listing player profiles, I'd love to have it explained. Gjr rodriguez (talk) 03:22, 9 April 2009 (UTC)

Not sure what this line means:Rather than retard information from people--Yankees10 05:05, 9 April 2009 (UTC)


 * I love stubs, most of the articles I create are stubs but they're notable, unlike yours.-- Giants27 T/  C  18:58, 9 April 2009 (UTC)

Q
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2008_Carolina_Panthers_season

Should I add in the trades that affected the Panthers Picks? --David.snipes (talk) 01:05, 10 April 2009 (UTC)

Template:Norfolk Tides roster
Just an explanation as to why all those players you deleted were there. I maintained this particular template last season, and I found it a tremendous nuisance to have to go back and look up all the proper article disambiguations or accented vowels every time a player was sent up to Baltimore/down to Bowie and then returned. To cite but one example, Craig Anderson (left-handed pitcher) was placed on the roster 6 times during the season, most of them before I moved the article from Craig Anderson (Australian pitcher). Of course, if you really feel like retyping all that stuff every time a player comes back to town (including the uni number, which also never changes), be my guest. I have better things to do than reinvent the wheel. Rklear (talk) 21:16, 9 April 2009 (UTC)
 * It's just that it's sort of inaccurate to have them there and I mean I don't really mind doing it over and over but if you want to re-add them go ahead.-- Giants27 T/  C  21:18, 9 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Looking again, my first comment may have been a bit POINTy; I apologize for that. The point I am trying to make is that these roster templates are a bit of an odd duck as far as Wikipedia content goes. Things are going to be deleted and restored on an almost daily basis, not because of edit warring, but because the underlying facts are in flux. I'm just trying to think of the simplest way to maintain code in such a situation, and falling back on what worked in my programmer days. You seem to have taken on the task of keeping up with the entire IL, and I wish you good luck in that. You should do what you feel comfortable with, and I'd rather not interfere with that. Consider it a strong suggestion, though. Rklear (talk) 22:04, 9 April 2009 (UTC)
 * You really didn't come of as pointy IMO, and I never really thought of that idea to leave the guys on there cause I remember Jordan De Jong last year was sent between AA and AAA like 100 times, I think I'm going to start using that, thanks and thanks for the support.-- Giants27 T/  C  22:11, 9 April 2009 (UTC)

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Please tone it down.
Please try to keep a cool head when dealing with problems. I saw this and it's very out of line. Calm down a bit please. :) iMatthew : Chat  18:30, 13 April 2009 (UTC)

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 * Sorry I realized that right after I did it, I'll go apologize, just got back from a six hour car trip and although that's no excuse got a little stressed.-- Giants27 T/  C  18:51, 13 April 2009 (UTC)

RfA
Perhaps it would be wise to give DougsTech a fair chance to reply before directing the discussion to a different venue. The question is posed in good faith, and unless I'm mistaken this particular point hasn't been raised before? Best, Durova  Charge! 02:29, 14 April 2009 (UTC)
 * You're right that it hasn't been asked before but given his recent history he probably won't respond and sorry if I came off as a dick but usually I see someone make a comment under his oppose and then they're directed to the massively long discussion.-- Giants27 T/  C  02:32, 14 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Not a problem at all. After so many months of Kurt Weber it's understandable to get a bit jaded.  It just seems to me that the proper thing to do is attempt a reasonable dialog once, with facts at hand.  I also have stats about the steady drop over time in the ratio of admins to registered accounts, and data about specific backlogs.  If he replies in a serious manner I'll be glad to discuss it seriously.  Otherwise, if other people's concerns get borne out, then the thing to do would be to migrate the discussion from WT:RFA into real dispute resolution.  Would you consider perhaps withdrawing your response?  I'd like to provide him a fair chance to reply without creating the impression that the well has been poisoned.  Durova  Charge! 02:38, 14 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Yeah no problem, and yeah there is a lot of backlog and drop of administrators and hopefully you can get an answer out of him since he hasn't answered anything in a while.-- Giants27 T/  C  02:44, 14 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Thank you very much. :) Durova  Charge! 02:54, 14 April 2009 (UTC)

Talkback

 * I've already explained that I've been here before on my new account. (Doesn't really affect me much, I'm already back to using Huggle) Yeah, this is an ongoing problem, and it looks like there's a new batch too. So I'll be working on getting those blocked. Be on the lookout for Greek-German-Polish-Texan communist farmer armies from Mordor named Inferno that are the duke of wales, lord of gay pengins, just plain penguins, greeks, or SchnitzelMannGreek that are also sauron in disguise (Yes, those are all descriptions he has used in usernames or talk page harassment) Inferno, Lord of Penguins (talk) 01:22, 15 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Obsessed? That's an understatement. Inferno, Lord of Penguins (talk) 01:26, 15 April 2009 (UTC)

Potentially new NFL categories
How about or  (or possibly  ). What do you think? RF23 (talk) 20:58, 16 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Hmmm.....not a bad idea, I kind of like it, but if you want consensus take it to WT:NFL.-- Giants27 T/  C  21:03, 16 April 2009 (UTC)

Tides Roster
I presonally like having a space between the categories because it looks nicer and it is easier to find the categories Ositadinma (talk) 23:37, 16 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Okay whatever, I really don't care it's spaces, does it really matter?-- Giants27 T/  C  23:38, 16 April 2009 (UTC)

Talkback
kelapstick (talk) 04:47, 17 April 2009 (UTC)

DYK?
Hello! there still are some issues that may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath and respond there as soon as possible. Carpet Crawler message me  17:48, 18 April 2009 (UTC)
 * OK, looks good, and is now approved. Good work. :) Carpet Crawler  message me  18:08, 18 April 2009 (UTC)
 * No problem. Keep up the great work! Carpet Crawler  message me  19:32, 18 April 2009 (UTC)

AFD
can you check this out:Articles for deletion/Dwayne Woods--Yankees10 20:17, 18 April 2009 (UTC)

RedHawks roster
Why did you put a hidden meassage on Beau Vaughen. He was called back up today from Frisco when Holland was called to the majors. Ositadinma (talk) 23:09, 18 April 2009 (UTC)
 * I did it this morning before he was called back up.-- Giants27 T/  C  23:09, 18 April 2009 (UTC)

Do you do this for all minor league players? I am not saying that it is wrong, but we don't know if Holland will get called back down. He might stay in the majors all year. Ositadinma (talk) 23:24, 18 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Well although you're right he could be great it's still better safe then sorry, because I know this for me not sure for you but I hate having to type in name after name even when they were there just last week.-- Giants27 T/  C  23:31, 18 April 2009 (UTC)

Jim Brandstatter
Thanks for closing the AfD of Jim Brandstatter. I knew it'd be kept from the second I saw the weakly worded nomination. TomCat4680 (talk) 21:36, 19 April 2009 (UTC)

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 * Yeah when I saw that everyone voted keep, figured it would be a good idea to save the admin's some time and make a non-admin closure.-- Giants27 T/  C  21:46, 19 April 2009 (UTC)

Hi will you help with the infobox on Jim Brandstatter ? I got the NFL one to work but he never played pro. The college one keeps giving me error messages. TomCat4680 (talk) 02:16, 20 April 2009 (UTC)


 * Sure, I'll head over there now.-- Giants27 T/  C  02:21, 20 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Muchas gracias. TomCat4680 (talk) 02:22, 20 April 2009 (UTC)


 * See its still a bunch of gobly goop????? Its probably better to have the other one top too since he's more known for his broadcasting work. TomCat4680 (talk) 02:28, 20 April 2009 (UTC)


 * Yeah I think it's because there is no height or weight given, once there's one entered (I can't seem to find it) it should be fine.-- Giants27 T/  C  02:31, 20 April 2009 (UTC)


 * I couldn't find it either but this page says he was number 76, not 72. TomCat4680 (talk) 02:37, 20 April 2009 (UTC)


 * Whoops, well I was close. haha-- Giants27 T/  C  02:40, 20 April 2009 (UTC)

yeah freep and tkl ref I just added said he played from 69-71 (graduated spring of 72). I'll search some his weight / height, gotta be out there somewhere. have you seen Inside Michigan Football? maybe we could just put short and fat. hehe. TomCat4680 (talk) 02:46, 20 April 2009 (UTC)


 * Or short and stubby. haha-- Giants27 T/  C  02:47, 20 April 2009 (UTC)

Looks like he his son played for MSU too - think it should go in Jim's article? TomCat4680 (talk) 02:50, 20 April 2009 (UTC)


 * Definetely.-- Giants27 T/  C  02:53, 20 April 2009 (UTC)


 * I didn't know he had a son. Looks like he was a hockey player though. He broke the family tradition! TomCat4680 (talk) 02:55, 20 April 2009 (UTC)


 * Haha.-- Giants27 T/  C  02:58, 20 April 2009 (UTC)

Pesky infobox doesn't wanna work properly still. I'll post a helpme on my talkpage. TomCat4680 (talk) 03:00, 20 April 2009 (UTC)

Oops I guess Brody is his nephew actually. TomCat4680 (talk) 03:05, 20 April 2009 (UTC)

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Hey
hey —Preceding unsigned comment added by Rocksballer58 (talk • contribs) 19:46, April 23 (UTC)

Hey.-- Giants27 T/  C  19:47, 23 April 2009 (UTC)

Reply to edit summary
The point was you undid all my changes on Gonzalez's page with the sections. I'm fine with your edits, but don't undo others in the process.► Chris Nelson Holla! 02:41, 24 April 2009 (UTC)
 * I know didn't realize that was you who I edit conflicted with until I saw your edit summary and figured you just undid my edit.-- Giants27 T/  C  02:43, 24 April 2009 (UTC)


 * So what are your plans for the NFL Draft?► Chris Nelson Holla! 04:15, 24 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Sitting on the sofa drinking soda after soda and eating an unhealthy amount of chips. You?-- Giants27 T/  C  19:09, 24 April 2009 (UTC)


 * Pretty much the same. Do you want to make any plans for how we're gonna edit? Typically, I just open the roster template of the team on the clock then make the edit when they pick. I usually don't bother with the player articles right away because there will be SO many edits. What I usually do it wait to fix them up when they sign, that way the hype of the draft has died down a bit and I can still make sure I covered everyone.► Chris Nelson Holla! 19:45, 24 April 2009 (UTC)


 * Probably gonna stay away from the templates early on might get there later one but first round probably not.-- Giants27 T/  C  20:38, 24 April 2009 (UTC)

Curry
I have a question, what do you think about the quote on his page, do you think it should be there, I personall don't--Yankees10 23:11, 25 April 2009 (UTC)
 * No, just removed it.-- Giants27 T/  C  23:17, 25 April 2009 (UTC)


 * Yeah, Bender235 will most likely re-add it.--Yankees10 23:34, 25 April 2009 (UTC)


 * No, I'm waiting 'til someone responds here. Giants27, please go ahead! --bender235 (talk) 23:40, 25 April 2009 (UTC)


 * Commented.-- Giants27 T/  C  23:42, 25 April 2009 (UTC)

AFD
Will you vote and throw in your two cents at Articles for deletion/John Nalbone?► Chris Nelson Holla! 22:09, 26 April 2009 (UTC)

Travis Beckum
Your insistence that Beckum's alma mater be referred to simply as "Wisconsin" has no basis in logic or precedent. If there were an established standard, there might be some merit to your demand. However, a quick look at other alumnae of the school (e.g., Troy Vincent, Stu Voigt, John Stocco, Joe Panos) shows that it is commonly (and appropriately) referred to as "University of Wisconsin-Madison." WP is an encyclopedia, not a sports show. Proper naming of people, places, and things is de rigueur. Given that the link still goes to Wisconsin Badgers football, and not to the school, your argument seems to be nothing more than an ownership demand. -- Sift &amp;  Winnow  22:27, 26 April 2009 (UTC)


 * Seriously? You're claiming that I think I own the article, I understand I don't own the article, and I know wikipedia is an encyclopedia but we don't have to a have a stick up our ass and call every thing the University of Wherever, we call it by it's common name.-- Giants27 T/  C  22:29, 26 April 2009 (UTC)


 * Flattery will get you nowhere. -- Sift  &amp;  Winnow  22:34, 26 April 2009 (UTC)

81 guys
The rookies don't actually count toward the 80-man roster limit until they sign. We just don't separate them out on the right side because if you don't put them in with the rest, we'll have to deal with people adding rookies to rookies to 32 templates on a daily basis. It's just easier this way.► Chris Nelson Holla! 01:35, 27 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Yeah makes sense don't need those stupid IP's making meaningless edits.-- Giants27 T/  C  01:38, 27 April 2009 (UTC)


 * And you know it would happen on all 32 templates every day? "Where's B. J. Raji?!" "Where's Vontae Davis?" If we put them to the right as "Unsigned Draft Picks" people would never see it haha.► Chris Nelson Holla! 01:39, 27 April 2009 (UTC)
 * It would be pre-free agency all over again. haha-- Giants27 T/  C  01:42, 27 April 2009 (UTC)

Village pump
I moved your proposal to the actual project page, rather than the talk, as I believe that's where it should go. Why not cross-post as Wikipedia talk:Notability (people) as well?  Grsz 11  13:18, 27 April 2009 (UTC)


 * Will do.-- Giants27 T/  C  14:12, 27 April 2009 (UTC)
 * As an FYI, User:Grsz11/Sandbox is a list of articles from the 2009 Draft that I believe do not currently pass the standard. I'm going to do my research, and some of them may come off that list. But it's only 16 out of 250-something.  Grsz 11  17:23, 27 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Although I know they're all notable, the best cases can be made for Greg Toler, Ramses Barden, Lawrence Sidbury, Sammie Lee Hill and Derek Cox since they were all fourth round or higher picks.-- Giants27 T/  C  17:51, 27 April 2009 (UTC)


 * User:Grsz11/Notability of sportspeople. Lets figure something out that everybody can agree upon. Come to the talk page with your thoughts, hopes, etc. Thanks,  Grsz 11  22:45, 27 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Posted some suggestions.-- Giants27 T/  C  22:57, 27 April 2009 (UTC)

Its Me again
How does this look?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:David.snipes/Sandbox_3

--David.snipes (talk) 18:26, 28 April 2009 (UTC)


 * Amazing job!-- Giants27 T/  C  19:45, 28 April 2009 (UTC)


 * So should I start using them? do I just start adding them to the bottom of the draft classes? —Preceding unsigned comment added by David.snipes (talk • contribs) 19:59, 28 April 2009 (UTC)
 * How do I do it so it shows like


 * or should I worry about that? --David.snipes (talk) 20:04, 28 April 2009 (UTC)


 * (edit conflict) Create Template:Panthers2001DraftPicks (just click it) and copy-paste from your sandbox. Add the category Category:Carolina Panthers draft navbox templates. Finally, add the text right above the categories listed on each of those players page.-- Giants27  T/  C  20:05, 28 April 2009 (UTC)


 * And you don't have to worry about that it should do it on it's own.-- Giants27 T/  C  20:06, 28 April 2009 (UTC)
 * http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dan_Morgan

Like that? Am i there? David.snipes (talk) 22:30, 28 April 2009 (UTC)


 * Exactly! Way to go!-- Giants27 T/  C  22:49, 28 April 2009 (UTC)

Told you I'd be trouble, once I complete all the Draft Picks to date I have 2 questions

1) Should I do ALL the years? I know that the Giants go back to 1883 :-) but the Panthers only to 1996 should I do them all

2) What would you suggest I tackle next? David.snipes (talk) 00:19, 29 April 2009 (UTC)


 * If it's an all red link template then there's no point to it like I'd expect the Giants to be. Although the earliest draft record here on Wikipedia are from 1936 but I'd say 1990 is the latest and maybe ones from before it if extremely notable (Lawrence Taylor's class, Phil Simms' class). And for the Panthers or any team for that matter except for the Giants most teams only go from 06-08 (09' for some most not filled in I think) so what I'd start with is checking all 2009 draft navbox templates and filling in the ones that need it.-- Giants27 T/  C  01:12, 29 April 2009 (UTC)
 * ok, I'll just go with 2000 and up- my intenet is just to work on the Panthers sites (let the other teams get thier OWN fans- Once I finish 2004-2006 I'll work on the players, ok? David.snipes (talk) 01:22, 29 April 2009 (UTC)

Can you view this and let me know? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:1995_Carolina_Panthers_season —Preceding unsigned comment added by David.snipes (talk • contribs) 01:46, 29 April 2009 (UTC)

Keiaho
Source?► Chris Nelson Holla! 20:04, 29 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Trust me just saw it on ESPNEWS not really the best source but still.-- Giants27 T/  C  20:05, 29 April 2009 (UTC)


 * Okay. Just making sure you weren't going on the internet reports about a deal being close.► Chris Nelson Holla! 20:06, 29 April 2009 (UTC)

Bergeron
Here´s the source: *.♠ Nastia   —Preceding undated comment added 21:17, 29 April 2009 (UTC).

Sounds weird: Bergeron was signed yesterday and released today --Zta (talk) 23:33, 29 April 2009 (UTC)♠ Nastia 

pre-draft measureables
Why are you taking all the pre-draft measureables out? Please don't do that. I didn't start that, I picked up up for articles, but I happend to diagree that it violates stats. . . it is not indesciminate, and there are football players, and it seems you are just doing this on your own. . . no one objected before. I won't create nbe articles but you going throug and just deleting stuff. . . I dunno. . . there must be a compromsie or something.RussFrancisTE81 (talk) 02:37, 30 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Replied on your talk page.-- Giants27 T/  C  02:40, 30 April 2009 (UTC)


 * if the smaller ones are okay, less obtrusive, I will change them, I have leanred how to do it. I like them just as much and I think you are right, they look better. RussFrancisTE81 (talk) 21:16, 30 April 2009 (UTC)

Help oh mighty one
http://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:David.snipes&diff=cur

I was running around making changes and this popped up- can you tell me what this is? —Preceding unsigned comment added by David.snipes (talk • contribs) 21:24, 30 April 2009 (UTC)


 * You must of clicked on a link to Wikimedia Commons which just like this Wikipedia is owned by the Wikimedia Foundation. Commons as its commonly called is the house of most images you see on Wikipedia of all languages. Whenever you click on a link to another Wiki it auto creates and account there for you and when you do that on Commons a bot comes to welcome you right away. No worries it's normal I have accounts on like 12 wikis and only edit on two because I clicked on links to others.-- Giants27 T/  C  21:29, 30 April 2009 (UTC)


 * ok, next problem

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:David.snipes/sandbox_4

what is wrong here? I'm trying to post a picture.

-- is ot ok for me to remove my own question so future generations don't see my stupidity?David.snipes (talk) 21:38, 30 April 2009 (UTC)


 * For this file and other links you don't have to copy-paste the URL you can just use brackets like this for a link to your userpage User talk:David.snipes which produces User talk:David.snipes. So for that you have to link it like this: File:USAMMA.jpg so that way it shows however if the place where you are putting it has the command image= in the infobox you just add USAMMA.jpg next to the equals sign. And no you can remove conversations from your own talk page or you can archive it.-- Giants27 T/  C  21:48, 30 April 2009 (UTC)