User talk:Giants27/Archives/2009/July

Re: Kwasi Nkansah
✅ here. – Juliancolton  &#124; Talk 00:24, 1 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Glad to help. :) – Juliancolton  &#124; Talk 00:26, 1 July 2009 (UTC)

DYK for Jonathan Brown (gridiron football)
Thanks Giants27, for the barnstar! Your rack of DYKs is looking very impressive and I am thankful that the coverage of Canadian football has been improved so much by your work here. Thanks! :-) Double Blue (talk) 18:21, 1 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Thanks! The CFL coverage on en.wiki is still needy but at least it's getting closer with mine, yours and others work, to the NFL and AFL's coverage.-- Giants27 ( c  |  s ) 18:33, 1 July 2009 (UTC)

WikiProject Arena Football League Newsletter - July 2009
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A favour at DYK
Hi there, hoping you might be willing to help out with a small favour at DYK. I have just put up a dual-article nom for Currambena School and David Heilpern, near the top of the June 30 noms. I'm normally happy to let check process run its course, but have a specific reason to be keen to see this one resolved either way in the next day or two (I found out that this Sunday is the 40th anniversary of the founding of the school in question, and it is having a kind of open day and reunion to mark the occasion). Would you consider checking this DYK and tagging it as to whether it qualifies or has probs? I'd be grateful. hamiltonstone (talk) 00:46, 2 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Yeah sure no problem, after I review it, I'll throw it into the special holding area at the bottom of the page.-- Giants27 ( c  |  s ) 01:06, 2 July 2009 (UTC)
 * That's what I call service! Thank you for your help, let me know if I can return the favour at any stage. hamiltonstone (talk) 01:37, 2 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Haha, yeah I usually check in a lot to make sure no one has left a message for me, that's semi-urgent.-- Giants27 ( c  |  s ) 01:45, 2 July 2009 (UTC)

DYK for Marcel Bellefeuille

 * P.S., The DYK for Bellefeuille was a bit of a surprise. It was on my to do list and when I saw you create it I was quite pleased and added maybe one sentence on his early years but thanks for sharing. Double Blue (talk) 22:50, 2 July 2009 (UTC)
 * No problem, thanks for the sentence, ref, copyedit and fixes in the infobox.-- Giants27 ( c  |  s ) 23:02, 2 July 2009 (UTC)

Golden Maple Leaf Award

 * Thanks a lot, man!-- Giants27 ( c  |  s ) 16:43, 3 July 2009 (UTC)

Thanks
Thanks for the sig guidance. - Simon Dodd { U·T·C·WP:LAW } 02:45, 5 July 2009 (UTC)

Thank You
Thank you very much for the JavaScript citation tool. But twhat mad me even more excited was the fact that you approved of the Zia article to go on DYK. Thank you very much! What do you think about my other article, the Romanian one? Any specific suggestions? Schnitzel MannGreek. 23:49, 5 July 2009 (UTC)
 * I'll take a look.-- Giants27 ( c  |  s ) 23:52, 5 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Thanks but i'm not understanding, how do i fix the referances?What part is messed up?Specifically? Schnitzel MannGreek . 23:56, 5 July 2009 (UTC)
 * ✅-I did it Schnitzel MannGreek . 00:10, 6 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Does it qualify now?Feel free to stop by my userpage,look at it(i like people to see my stuff;)) and sign the guestbook(the link's in the userpage). Afterwards, feel free to take the guestbook barnstar from the guestbook Schnitzel MannGreek . 00:22, 6 July 2009 (UTC)
 * I signed your guestbook!Don't forget to take the barnstar for signing mine;) And when will my articles be on the main page? What date? Schnitzel MannGreek . 01:34, 6 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Responded on SMG's talk page, appears as though one is in queue 4 while the other will be in queue 5.-- Giants27 ( c  |  s ) 02:01, 6 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Ah, my bad, didn't notice discussion there. I'll move my comment over to there. r ʨ anaɢ talk/contribs 02:03, 6 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Understandable, broken up discussions are hard to follow.-- Giants27 ( c  |  s ) 02:06, 6 July 2009 (UTC)
 * When the one about the Zia and New Mexicos flag go up, don't you think it would be good to have a picture of the flag so it grabs attention?
 * When the one about the Zia and New Mexicos flag go up, don't you think it would be good to have a picture of the flag so it grabs attention?

?-- Schnitzel MannGreek. 13:33, 6 July 2009 (UTC)


 * Looks as though another picture is being used for the set that the Zia article is in.-- Giants27 ( c  |  s ) 16:14, 6 July 2009 (UTC)

Operation Brotherhood Montessori Center

 * Thanks! Wasn't expecting that.-- Giants27 ( c  |  s ) 12:29, 8 July 2009 (UTC)

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DoubleBlue
Has he ever responded about Requests for adminship/DoubleBlue?  MBisanz  talk 05:18, 9 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Not really.-- Giants27 ( c  |  s ) 12:04, 9 July 2009 (UTC)


 * Though I would like to assist in the administration of the project, I don't feel I have the time at present to commit to it. Double Blue (talk) 01:50, 12 July 2009 (UTC)


 * All taken care of, thanks.  MBisanz  talk 03:15, 12 July 2009 (UTC)

Giants27, When you have a chance, could you copy-edit 2009 Toronto Argonauts season, particularly for NPOV. It is sourced but could use a neutral eye. Thanks. Double Blue (talk) 01:50, 12 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Copyedited, feel free to revert anything you don't like. I actually got to watch this one, thanks to Time Warner and I see you were at the game.-- Giants27 ( c  |  s ) 02:16, 12 July 2009 (UTC)

DYK medal

 * Congrats! That takes a lot of work and means a lot of improvement to our encyclopedia! Double Blue (talk) 17:51, 12 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Haha, thanks!-- Giants27 ( c  |  s ) 21:55, 12 July 2009 (UTC)

Riders Roster
The reason I left those players hidden, is that most CFL teams "release" players on paper. Bergquist and Wasilea (sp?) will continue practicing with the Riders and will either end up on the active roster or on the Developmental Squad again. I just figured for the ease of editing, we simply hide these players since they will be back. If you'd rather delete and readd them when the paper trail is reverted, that's fine. Shootmaster 44 (talk) 04:21, 11 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Hmm...really? I actually didn't know that so if you want to readd them, go ahead.-- Giants27 ( c  |  s ) 12:23, 11 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Yeah its a strange quirk of the CFL, where roster rules are skirted this way. I'd bet if you went to any CFL team's practice (which are all open to the public by the way) you'd probably find 3 or 4 players that are there that aren't listed on any official website. In previous years, I've shown these players on the Developmental Squad, but since the CFL seems to have rules regarding the DS, I'm not sure where to put them. However, I guess the reports of these players practicing, do not come from good sources even if they are eye-witness reports. There are some very loyal practice watchers that post at Riderfans.com that tend to keep us Rider fans abreast of these types of things. I mean some of them have contacts at the airport who find out about certain players being in town and whatnot. It borders on stalker behaviour at times. I tend to stick to the Riders' fan board, but I'd bet that all the teams' fan boards have reports like this. Shootmaster 44 (talk) 08:30, 12 July 2009 (UTC)
 * The practice squad players are really free agents anyway. That's why they are released before being signed to practice roster. Any team can sign another team's practice squad player so long as they are actually signing him to play in the next game. The Riders fans are definitely the closest followers of team movements, in my opinion. Double <font style="color:blue; font-variant: small-caps;">Blue (talk) 17:20, 12 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Practice roster players really serve no significance other than playing the roles of key players of the next opponent during practice. And I stick by my original action of removing Bergquist and Wasiela because even though they might be practicing with the team, many free agents do so keeping them listed just because they were on the pr, doesn't make sense. If they get re-signed then we'll readd them because the roster is really that a roster, so anyone not on it shouldn't be listed whether visible or not. But like I previously stated I have no problem with you hiding them even if I disagree with it.-- Giants27 ( c  |  s ) 17:24, 12 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Obviously, we cannot list released ps players as being on the roster. I don't have a big problem with commenting out players known to be coming back if it makes an editor's job easier but I don't want to clutter the template with a lot of code either. <font style="color:darkblue; font-variant: small-caps;">Double <font style="color:blue; font-variant: small-caps;">Blue (talk) 17:48, 12 July 2009 (UTC)
 * If each player code was like the NFL/AFL roster templates codes, then I'd be all for it but the CFL player template is much easier to type in so I just don't see the need.-- Giants27 ( c  |  s ) 17:52, 12 July 2009 (UTC)

(outdent)I noticed that the Riders' roster on shows Cole Bergquist on the Developmental Squad as does the CFL's site, does he qualify or does the fact that officially he is released by the paperwork shuffle supercede this? In the past, I have always used the CFL's transactions in addition to the eyewitness of players still on the team. But if official documentation is how were are operating this year, what is the rule, which is considered official? Shootmaster 44 (talk) 10:01, 13 July 2009 (UTC)
 * I went by the CFL transactions page, but since he's listed and not Wasiela I'm inclined the say he's back.-- Giants27 ( c  |  s ) 12:14, 13 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Let's go with the most recent verifiable information. There are times when updates on any on those sources lags behind. <font style="color:darkblue; font-variant: small-caps;">Double <font style="color:blue; font-variant: small-caps;">Blue (talk) 22:22, 13 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Agreed, it would be nice if some of these teams had something like Last update: 7/13/09 on there but what I always do is if the team had X player which according to the CFL transactions page he was released yesterday, I'll check the CFL website's listed roster since they were the ones to report he's gone. And haha, loved the edit summary, it always amuses me when these "people" decide its a good idea to vandalize.-- Giants27 ( c  |  s ) 22:58, 13 July 2009 (UTC)

Canvassing
You removed my message to you, writing that I was "canvassing". Would you please explain how I was canvassing you? Cunard (talk) 19:26, 14 July 2009 (UTC)
 * You said that he now passes WP:BIO which is biased since you voted keep, also you stated that "it should be kept" which is also biased. You asked me to re-evaluate my vote, which I did but still. Finally, you posted on two other talk pages which is considered "mass posting". -- Giants27 ( c  |  s ) 19:31, 14 July 2009 (UTC)
 * (just noticed this while passing by) I don't think it's really canvassing. As far as I can tell, Cunard was posting only to people who had already been involved in the discussion, and posting to update them on issues they had raised before that he believes were addressed. Of course, you have the right to remove it from your talkpage if you like; I just wanted to clarify that I don't think Cunard has done anything wrong, either. <b class="Unicode">r ʨ anaɢ</b> talk/contribs 19:36, 14 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Didn't notice it was only to commenters on the AfD, thus I crossed out that point.-- Giants27 ( c  |  s ) 19:38, 14 July 2009 (UTC)
 * (e/c) My intention was not to canvass but to remind the users who voted "delete" that the AfD discussion was still ongoing. I didn't intend for my message to be non-neutral but it came out that way because I spent two hours rewriting Andy Michael. I didn't want the closing admin to close the discussion based on the delete votes of users who evaluated the article before sources were found. Posting three messages to users who are aware of the deletion discussion is not "mass posting", but we may have different viewpoints on the meaning of that phrase. Anyway, the next time I post messages notifying people about new developments, I will make sure that the messages are neutrally-worded. Cheers, Cunard (talk) 19:44, 14 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Yeah I get that, I do that myself sometimes but the non-neutral wording is what made me call it canvassing. Cheers, -- Giants27 ( c  |  s ) 19:47, 14 July 2009 (UTC)

Rick May Creation Article
Your reason the article was declined was that there was no new sources added in 24 hours. However I did add two more sources before the 24 hour deadline. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.192.164.136 (talk) 21:59, 16 July 2009 (UTC)
 * You're absolutely correct, my mistake. I've placed the submission on hold please go to the submission page to see why. Cheers,-- Giants27 ( c  |  s ) 22:02, 16 July 2009 (UTC)

Reserve List
I noticed your edit summary for Graham Harrell on the Riders roster. The reason he cannot be on the Reserve List, is that the Reserve List is an active list made up of the 4 players, who dress for the game as part of the 46 man roster, but are made ineligible to actually play in the game two hours before kickoff. Think of it like in hockey when a player is made a healthy scratch. As such, Harrell has not dressed for a game yet so he is cannot have been on the Reserve List. From the rumors I hear swirling, Justin Beaver has been released and Harrell will take his spot. Shootmaster 44 (talk) 07:22, 17 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Okay, thanks I figured it was something like that but wasn't sure.-- Giants27 ( c  |  s ) 12:47, 17 July 2009 (UTC)

Changing the navboxes heading to "Inactive list" is a darn good idea. As you know, I wonder about the labour involved in keeping them up-to-date and the reserve list in particular. Do you think that the reserve players could simply be left in the Active section? If, on the other hand, you don't think it's too much trouble to keep up-to-date, then I do suggest moving the Reserve list up to the second heading underneath Active since they are still on the Active Roster. Reserve list is really a subsection of Active like Injured list is of Inactive Roster. <font style="color:darkblue; font-variant: small-caps;">Double <font style="color:blue; font-variant: small-caps;">Blue (talk) 17:03, 20 July 2009 (UTC)


 * The only real reason I keep active separate from reserve is because the CFL transactions page reports on it, and not a bad idea to move it under active.-- Giants27 ( c  |  s ) 17:15, 20 July 2009 (UTC)

Re: Queue 5
Added in the article, thanks for catching that. Wizardman 23:53, 20 July 2009 (UTC)

Thank you for making WP:NODRAMA a success!
Thank you again for your support of the Great Wikipedia Dramaout. Preliminary statistics indicate that 129 new articles were created, 203 other articles were improved, and 183 images were uploaded. Additionally, 41 articles were nominated for DYK, of which at least 2 have already been promoted. There are currently also 8 articles up for GA status and 3 up for FA/FL status. Though the campaign is technically over, please continue to update the log page at WP:NODRAMA/L with any articles which you worked during the campaign, and also to note any that receive commendation, such as DYK, GA or FA status. You may find the following links helpful in nominating your work:


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 * It was a great idea, I wish I wasn't going on vacation and could've worked on more DYKs and Joey Hamilton for FA.-- Giants27 ( c  |  s ) 02:32, 23 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Congrats but your wikiaddiction may be getting out of hand when you wish you are not going on vacation! 8-O Have fun! :-) <font style="color:darkblue; font-variant: small-caps;">Double <font style="color:blue; font-variant: small-caps;">Blue (talk) 02:39, 23 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Haha, don't get me wrong but man did it have to be now, right after NODRAMA? ;) Thanks, hope you enjoy the week without me starting Saturday! :)-- Giants27 ( c  |  s ) 02:43, 23 July 2009 (UTC)

Signature
Hi there. You have an unclosed  tag in your signature, could you fix it please (you should be able to just remove it and not change the appearance). the wub "?!"  18:08, 24 July 2009 (UTC)
 * That's weird. I fixed it.--<font face="Bauhaus 93" color="black" size="3">Giants27 ( c  |  s ) 18:31, 24 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Thanks! the wub "?!"  12:44, 27 July 2009 (UTC)

Thank you for your comments of "wrong". I have examined the discussion and updated the edit. Hooks can be removed after unresolved issues, usually 8+ days. What we don't want to have is editors removing hooks on a whim. By making guidelines, this alerts people not to do it. User F203 (talk) 20:47, 24 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Haha, sorry should've expanded. And it probably is a good idea to put it there (it's on the suggestions page too) but your wording was off, but like I said I should've expanded my reasoning there.--<font face="Bauhaus 93" color="black" size="3">Giants27 ( c  |  s ) 20:53, 24 July 2009 (UTC)


 * Can you add to the discussion that you previously participated? Any ideas? http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia_talk:Did_you_know&diff=prev&oldid=304143676 User F203 (talk) 16:49, 25 July 2009 (UTC)

92nd Grey Cup template
Greetings to a fellow CFL fan! I discovered that someone created the template for the 92nd Grey Cup champion roster for the Toronto Argonauts. I subsequently added players who were members of the Argos onto the list, but were not dressed for the game. The Grey Cup inscriptions only include players that were dressed for the games as far as I know. That said, I wasn't sure if the criteria/convention for such templates were the same way. Can those players who were not dressed for the big game, but were still a member of the team, still be recognized on those templates? Amchow78 (talk) 02:03, 26 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Replied on talk page of template.--<font face="Bauhaus 93" color="black" size="3">Giants27 ( c  |  s ) 15:59, 1 August 2009 (UTC)

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DYK for Weston Dressler

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