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College Football Stats
Do I include postseason stats in the 2009 stats for Mike Kafka?  Eagles   24/7  (C)  01:56, 2 January 2010 (UTC)
 * I think a separate section in the stats just for the postseason is the best route to go, but feel free to do it either way.-- Giants 27  ( Contribs  |  WP:CFL ) 02:19, 2 January 2010 (UTC)
 * I think I'll include it in the 2009 stats, because announcers for games group them together.  Eagles   24/7  (C)  02:24, 2 January 2010 (UTC)

Broughton/Clark
Just letting you know why I removed the wording about these guys being signed off the Giants' practice squad. Since the Giants' season is over the practice squad contracts should be expired and those guy would just sign as free agents. I'm guessing the media looked them up after they signed with AZ and saw that there were on the Giants' roster online, not knowing the details of the situation.► Chris Nelson Holla! 22:13, 5 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Figured that much but I just went with the media report even though it was unlikely they were signed off the Giants' PS.-- Giants 27  ( Contribs  |  WP:CFL ) 23:32, 5 January 2010 (UTC)

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Sorry
Hi! I'm sorry for not showing up to support your RfA despite offering to nominate you a couple of months back. I was inactive for 2 and a half months and didn't really follow Wikipedia during that time. For what it's worth, I still think you'd make a great admin and my offer still stands, if you ever feel like going through hell week again. Keep up the good work. Jafeluv (talk) 13:23, 8 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Don't worry about it, any potential support !vote probably wouldn't have made a difference. Thanks again for the consideration.-- Giants 27  ( Contribs  |  WP:CFL ) 19:25, 8 January 2010 (UTC)

Captain Munnerlyn
At WP:GAN you nominated Captain Munnerlyn for GA status. However, there is no GAN template on the article's talk page (Talk:Captain Munnerlyn). I signed up to review it but I first to ensure this is the correct article you intended to nominate. maclean (talk) 18:19, 10 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Whoops, guess I forgot to add it. Thanks for the heads up.-- Giants 27  ( Contribs  |  WP:CFL ) 19:19, 10 January 2010 (UTC)
 * I made a couple notes at Talk:Captain Munnerlyn/GA1. Take care of these and it should be fine. maclean (talk) 21:26, 10 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Thanks, I'll get right on that. Cheers,-- Giants 27  ( Contribs  |  WP:CFL ) 21:27, 10 January 2010 (UTC)

Your userpage was blanked
Hi, just though I'd let you know that while I was looking at Recent IP edits, a certain 64.53.217.17 (who I understand you have had dealings with in the past!) decided to blank your userpage. I reverted it and issued a level 4, but also noticed this consituted block evasion. Should I notify administrators through the 'Administrator intervention against vandals' page or is there a seperate page?Acather96 (talk) 21:58, 10 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Looks like somebody got to it already, but thanks for the reversion. Can't these people find a hobby?-- Giants 27  ( Contribs  |  WP:CFL ) 22:01, 10 January 2010 (UTC)

Category about "African-Americans" in football
I agree with what you said. It's silly. American football is primarily comprised of blacks, so the category is silly. Even if they were a minority, I think these racial categories are ridiculous.  Enigma msg  04:00, 11 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Exactly. Having different categories for different races makes no sense. American football is predominantly blacks so a category that's comparable would be like white hockey players.-- Giants 27  ( Contribs  |  WP:CFL ) 19:29, 11 January 2010 (UTC)

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Eric Peterman
See there i tried more. Before it was full of crap. Now I kinda you know....made it readable. I understand the cleanup you did but before It was all BS. Dont get upset with me. Stealthninja545 (talk) 00:32, 13 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Don't worry about it, trust me the more work I have to do the less likely I want to do it all as well. Cheers and keep up the (necessary) hard work,-- Giants 27  ( Contribs  |  WP:CFL ) 00:34, 13 January 2010 (UTC)

Infobox NFL active
What do you think about the idea of making the "statseason" field optional for retired players? Personally I dont think it is necessary to say Career NFL statistics as of XX for retired players since it already says earlier in the infobox when the player last played.--Yankees10 19:50, 14 January 2010 (UTC)
 * I kind of like it because it can be different. Say a player retired after the 2002 season but didn't play that season, meaning he last played in 2001 which is what the infobox should say. Plus, it'd be a pain to figure out how to do that.-- Giants 27  ( Contribs  |  WP:CFL ) 20:04, 14 January 2010 (UTC)


 * Yeah thats a good point, never mind.--Yankees10 20:06, 14 January 2010 (UTC)

John David Booty
It never says on any website (including nfl.com) that John David Booty signed with the Houston Texans on January 11, 2010 or whatever it was. On nfl.com, it that he re-signed with the Tennessee Titans. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Gibberish77 (talk • contribs) 00:56, 15 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Check out the Texans website and for the move. Both of those sources are more reliable for transactions than NFL.com.-- Giants  27  ( Contribs  |  WP:CFL ) 00:59, 15 January 2010 (UTC)

You are right about the Texans website, but he is also listed on the Tennessee Titans practice squad on their official website. So he probably is on the Houston Texans. I'm sorry for the trouble. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Gibberish77 (talk • contribs) 12:36, 15 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Don't worry about it, odds are there are more people who are confused about this situation.-- Giants 27  ( Contribs  |  WP:CFL ) 19:37, 15 January 2010 (UTC)


 * @Gibberish77 - The Titans' roster is from 2009, hence the presence of a practice squad. There are no practice squads in the offseason and all practice squad contracts expire when the team's season does, so Booty's did and he decided to sign with the Texans for 2010.► Chris Nelson Holla! 21:37, 15 January 2010 (UTC)

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Oh knoes!
Gasp!  Eagles   24/7  (C)  01:43, 16 January 2010 (UTC)
 * I doubt he's impersonating me but amusing none the less.-- Giants 27  ( Contribs  |  WP:CFL ) 02:51, 16 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Haha, I know I just thought it was funny.  Eagles   24/7  (C)  05:17, 16 January 2010 (UTC)

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Van Halen
Someone just decided to mess with my favorite bands page. Like I said your better at cleaning up. Can you do it? I know its not football related but. Please?? Stealthninja545 (talk) 05:11, 18 January 2010 (UTC)
 * ✅  Eagles   24/7  (C)  05:24, 18 January 2010 (UTC)

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Questions.
Howdy! Sorry I haven't been bugging you in awhile- I've mostly been playing in the MMA and doing just random edits and checking.

I have some questions for you.

I have been using my site as legit press for several local MMA organizations. My websites have also carried various press releases and press conferences. I have also been running interviews and first hand show reports.

1. Since this is verifiable- I can fax someone a hard copy of the press release and the shows are on tape (but not all are on Youtube) can I still use it as a source on articles- this is not original and does not violate neutrality.

2. Can I source my website? Since ESPN is a source, and CNNSI is a source- I have the same press credentials as they do (actually, I got better seats than the ESPN guy did at one show)

3. If the owner of an organization writes something for me to post- But I am the one posting it on my site- do I have to state his title or can I just have his name

I.E

Blah Blah Blah - Jerry Jones or Blah Blah Blah - Jerry Jones, owner, Dallas Cowboys

-- Thanks. I'll try to bother you more in the future.

David.snipes (talk) 02:06, 20 January 2010 (UTC)
 * You're not bothering me at all, in fact I enjoy answering questions. To answer your question, you're site may be reliable but you can't link to it yourself since (although it's clearly not intended this way) it might look like link spam since it's your site. Making your site more well known and allowing other Wikipedia editors to find on their own will be the best route. Plus reliable sources are expected to be Third-party sources so while you're a third party to another editor, you're obviously not a third-party to yourself. Hope this helps. Cheers,-- Giants 27  ( Contribs  |  WP:CFL ) 02:21, 20 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Ok, follow up.

Policy: If your product is truly relevant to an article, others will agree—try the talk page

- So, should I make the base article, then post links on the talk page and ask some other editor to build the article? Seems kind of asking others to do my work for me there. I did the USA-MMA organization - but its getting hit for lack of sources, something I can use easily- but it would all be original (but verifiable) I hate to stub it out or ask others to do my work for me. I mean I could get another writer to just do it for me, but then it would be a sock puppet. Grrr David.snipes (talk) 15:45, 20 January 2010 (UTC)
 * I guess you can always ask the people at WT:MMA (is that link correct?) if they find your site to be reliable and that you yourself can use it.-- Giants 27  ( Contribs  |  WP:CFL ) 19:30, 20 January 2010 (UTC)

Mike Kafka
I have asked at WT:CFB whether we anticipate a 2010 East-West Shrine Game article. I see in Mike Kafka you have linked his MVP to the general article. What do you know about the prospects of a game article.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 05:09, 24 January 2010 (UTC)
 * I don't know much, but what I do know is that the game isn't a bowl game so shouldn't be linked in the bowl games section. However, an article for each season might be out of the question since it's just a tool for scouts.-- Giants 27  ( Contribs  |  WP:CFL ) 14:02, 24 January 2010 (UTC)
 * I disagree with you, Giants. The Shrine Game has been around much longer than the Senior Bowl, even before the NFL Draft was first established. It supports a pretty good cause (Shriners Hospital for Children) and it is considered a bowl just as much as the Senior Bowl according to this template. I have started the article in my userspace for the time being.  Eagles   24/7  (C)  01:05, 27 January 2010 (UTC)
 * I still do disagree but you are free to start the article and move it into article space. The East-West Shrine Game may support a great cause and may be older but it doesn't make it notable enough for a year by year article IMO. I don't believe the Senior Bowl is a bowl because unless the media and other people treat it as such it will always be a scouting game to me.-- Giants 27  ( Contribs  |  WP:CFL ) 02:59, 27 January 2010 (UTC)
 * I agree that basically it is just a scouting game, but the Pro Bowl is equally useless except that the players get paid to participate. I would not put it back in the infobox under bowl games, however, because it is not considered a real bowl game. I think I can make a case for it being notable, since it receives a bunch of coverage in the media. I'm going to go ahead and create it anyway, but if it gets deleted, I won't be too sad.  Eagles   24/7  (C)  03:11, 27 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Like I said, go right ahead and I'd personally be surprised if it was deleted. Since I feel as though an article is unwarranted (at this time) I'm not going to bring it to PROD or AFD since there isn't a standard for this and I'm not exactly neutral here. If another third-party editor nominates it then I'll have to evaluate the notability you can demonstrate for it.-- Giants 27  ( Contribs  |  WP:CFL ) 03:15, 27 January 2010 (UTC)

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