User talk:Gibmetal77/Archive 7

A big thank you
For this. Fortunately my awful English has always a generous copyeditor :-) --Ecemaml (talk) 16:30, 7 December 2009 (UTC)


 * Hi Gibmetal, possible you're two generous with my English. Possibly you've not been studying for years Maltese :-)
 * Well, currently I'm working in El Anunciador, and plan to finish with the Gibraltar Guardian, as they were, along with El Calpense, the most significant Spanish-language newspapers (in some periods not only as a whole, but even individually with more circulation that the Chronicle, testifying the predominance of Spanish language in Gibraltar in the 19th century). Unfortunatelly, it was El Calpense the most influential, the most lasting and therefore the one with better coverage in online sources (it seems that Gibraltar y la prensa is the master source for press in the Rock, but I've spent too much money in purchasing Gibraltar-related books, and I've decided to cut costs :-)) Further articles I'll work in are Spanish Civil War in Gibraltar and Spanish language in Gibraltar, as both are interesting topics (at least for me), I have a lot of sources, and are not covered in Wikipedia (compare it with the tons and tons of time wasted spent in the status of the territory :-)). I don't know an effective way to cooperate in such articles, but I'm open to suggestions from you in a WoW. Anyway, I'll keep you informed. Best regards and, again, thank you --Ecemaml (talk) 22:47, 7 December 2009 (UTC)

Hi, Gibmetal, I see your point with regard to the title Spanish Civil War in Gibraltar. However, I don't feel confortable with your proposal. I mean, some of the topics I'd like to talk about are definitely efects on Gibraltar (for example, the influx of refugees or the way the request for further democratization promoted by the Gibraltar unions was prevented because of the instability created by the war). However, others, such as the presence of Republican sheeps in the port of Gibraltar or the use of the port by the parties of the Non-Intervention Committee are not "efects" but "events" related to the War that took place in Gibraltar. Could you propose other title for the article? Best regards and thanks again --Ecemaml (talk) 15:43, 8 December 2009 (UTC) PS: I've got a very bad habit related to start articles without finishing the ones I've begun. Could you please take a look at Party for the Autonomy of Gibraltar?


 * Hi Gibmetal. I've begun in User:Ecemaml/Nursery/Spanish Civil War in Gibraltar, but only cutting and pasting from the main Gibraltar article. If I have time tonight, I'll add more text and references. I'll keep you informed :-)

Issue
Hi Gibmetal, first of all, thank you for your copyedit in Party for the Autonomy of Gibraltar. It's a pleasure to work with you.

However, the content of my message is related to the article on the Spanish Civil War and Gibraltar. The issue is, as usual, my poor English. I'm currently working with two sources. One is Jackson work. It's a very good source on military aspects. The other is a Spanish-language work, which is superv in those events related to the Spanish refugees in the Rock. Well, with regard to the first one, I'm afraid that I won't be able to summarize Jackson's work without resembling too much a copyvio, as I don't think I'll manage to go too away of the source. With regard to the second, I've got the same problem: although I could write a very good text in Spanish, my translation to English will be poor. With regard to the first one, a preliminary approach would be trying to create a text and provide the original Jackson's book (for example, via flickr or mail if you trust me enough to provide me your email address :-)) to you for you to review my text. With regard to the second, I don't know whether a translation would be too much for you. Anyway, I'd be happy with any help you could provide (and also considering that I'm really very short of time). What do you think? Best regards --Ecemaml (talk) 22:21, 11 December 2009 (UTC)


 * Hi Gibmetal, sorry for the late response. My father has undergone some surgery and is in the hospital yet. Yesterday I slept in there and today I'm very, very sleepy :-( I'll come back soon. Best regards --Ecemaml (talk) 22:44, 13 December 2009 (UTC) PS: as usual, if you have a moment, please, review Marquisate of Gibraltar PS2: congratulations for your new Miss World. She's really nice :-)

No worries, I haven't have much time to produce much material. On the other hand, one of the good things of living in a so small country (I guess) is that it's much more likely to date a Miss World than in any other country ;-) I'll keep you informed of my progress (if any) --Ecemaml (talk) 22:23, 16 December 2009 (UTC)

Kaiane Aldorino
Were you aware that the image that the IP user deleted from Kaiane Aldorino is listed for deletion as a copyright violation on Commons? Woogee (talk) 23:40, 15 December 2009 (UTC)


 * As from today there are a lot of images of her homecoming in Gibraltar I've added one of her on the red carpet at the airport with her crown, which will do unless anyone comes up with a better one. She sure is a very attractive woman in person. Keep an eye on it in case anyone tries to delete it. --Gibnews (talk) 23:15, 17 December 2009 (UTC)

Hi Gibmetal, I've read that you took 150 pictures!!! Would you take some of other members of the parade? Especifically, I'd like to know whether you took one to the Chief Minister, Peter Caruana. The one we currently have (File:Peter Caruana elected.jpg) is really awful. Best regards --Ecemaml (talk) 16:12, 19 December 2009 (UTC)


 * Yep, you're right, too much Gibxxxx :-) It's a pity. Best regards --Ecemaml (talk) 00:06, 20 December 2009 (UTC)

DYK nomination of Kaiane Aldorino
Hello! Your submission of Kaiane Aldorino at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and there still are some issues that may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! Materialscientist (talk) 06:52, 18 December 2009 (UTC)

Merry Christmas
Seasons greetings, Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year. Justin talk 23:24, 22 December 2009 (UTC)

Merry Christmas
Hi Gibmetal77, I'd like to say you thank you very much for your help, and to wish you a Merry Merry Christmas and also a Happy New Year. Weather is being awful in the center of the Peninsula. I wish it's better in the South tip :-) Best regards --Ecemaml (talk) 13:53, 23 December 2009 (UTC) PS: BTW, do you know whether El Faro de Gibraltar is still sold?


 * Hi, Gibmetal77, here I am again to bother a little bit :-)
 * I've been doing some flickr-search and I've found a lot of Gibraltar images. I've uploaded some, but I have two I don't know where they come from: here and here. I guess you can know it. Best regards --Ecemaml (talk) 23:36, 25 December 2009 (UTC)


 * Hi Gibmetal, hope that your family lunch has been OK (I decided yesterday that I wouldn't have more food for two or three days, my mom is terrible with Christmas celebrations :-)). I've included the Eliott picture in the article. Moreover, I've created a category in Commons for the pictures related to the Alameda Gardens. However, I guess that some of the pictures in commons:Category:Flora in Gibraltar could also belong to the Alameda Gardens category. Could you please check it? Unfortunately, given the hardly descriptive names and descriptions I'm not able to do it myself. Best regards --Ecemaml (talk) 21:55, 26 December 2009 (UTC)

Yep, the car was a very good one :-) As you've possibly noticed, the second half of the 20th century is the most difficult to illustrate (too early for copyright expiration and too late for the copyleft movement). In Spain it is even worse, given the exceptionally restrictive copyright legislation (80 years since the death of the author, even for photographs). Thank you for the review in the Flora category. I'll keep you informed. --Ecemaml (talk) 22:40, 26 December 2009 (UTC)

Governors of Gibraltar
Hi Gibmetal77 - I have now completed my visit to Gibraltar (specifically the biographies of the Governors). I think you will now find that there are articles for every one of the Governors and photographs for many of them as well. I have enjoyed my visit and thanks for making me feel welcome Dormskirk (talk) 23:40, 2 January 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Giovanni Battista Calvi

 * I guess you're the responsible for this :-)
 * Thank you. It's the first time I'm article I've started reaches the Wikipedia Main Page. And it was only because of your effort. First, by refurbushing the article and then by proposing it. Again, thank you :-) --Ecemaml (talk) 23:13, 3 January 2010 (UTC)

Images
Hi Gibmetal, I've finished your order :-) Take 2 took a long, long time :-)

On the other hand, I was thinking of using the images for the list of articles to do. It could be a good idea list also the images that are available. For instance, instead of: We could list it in this way: What do you think?
 * Gibraltar City Council
 * Gibraltar City Council (images available in commons:Category:City Hall (Gibraltar))

Finally, I was thinking of rating the articles of the Wikiproject. Has it been done previously? Best regards --Ecemaml (talk) 22:29, 10 January 2010 (UTC)


 * Now I'm really scared. I guess that take 3 will have thousands of pictures ;-) But no problem, I'll process them little by little. The most of the time it takes it the one I spend in updating the uploaders' pages. Possibly with a redirect it would work OK, but I prefer to leave them in the better state so that nothing change. With regard to rating, I'll do some research to see how it is done in other wikiprojects. Anyway, I don't intend to rata any controversial article, since dealing with such articles already takes a lot of time for me. I'll keep you informed. --Ecemaml (talk) 09:27, 11 January 2010 (UTC)

No, you needn't apologize. It was only a joke :-)

With regard to rating, you can see the rules in here. We could proceed by listing the articles and assigning a rate according to the Assessment FAQ. If we agree, the rate is added and if we disagree, we can discuss them on a one-by-one case. You could invite whoever might be interested. What do you think? --Ecemaml (talk) 13:22, 11 January 2010 (UTC)

YOUR PHOTO OF GIBRALTAR - THANKS FOR RELEASING IT PUBLICLY
Hi - I saw your photo of Gibraltar, which was released to the public domain per your licensing agreement (I am new to Wikimedia, so forgive me for stating the obvious....) I wanted to let you know that my mother, a travel writer who is publishing a story on Gibraltar, would like to re-use it in her travel story on this destination. She can notify you if/when it is published, if you like. (She was not paid for writing the story, unfortunately –so none of you will be getting rich from this!).

Thanks so much for the terrific picture, and for agreeing to allow us – and everyone -- to re-use it. Do you want a photo credit if it is published? If so, please send me your full name for attribution. “Photo by XXXX”. Thanks again! Wikiwacky0367 (talk) 00:25, 14 January 2010 (UTC)

Our Lady
Hi Gibmetal, I think I've finished the article. Although it possibly needs an additional copyedit, I've moved to the principal space. Could you please do a final review (and also from John Baptist Scandella)? Many thanks in advance --Ecemaml (talk) 23:42, 16 January 2010 (UTC)


 * Hi, I knew it did require a copyedit :-) Thank you again.
 * What do you think of something similar to this "Did you know that during the Spanish Reconquista the whole European continent was put under the protection of Our Lady of Europe whose shrine was in Gibraltar and that its devotion lasts to this day?"
 * Only two additional comments: which is the difference between a "shrine" and a "sanctuary"? and, did you read my request in commons? We definitely need a better picture of the Shrine at Gibraltar. And that's all by now. Again, thank you for your support. --Ecemaml (talk) 08:16, 18 January 2010 (UTC)

Pictures
Hi Gibmetal, I'd like to add some pictures to your "to-do list" :-)

The first one is from the Cathedral of St. Mary the Crowned and is related to Juan Romero de Figueroa. It seems as if the altar of the Blessed Sacrament in the Cathedral keeps a marble tablet with the initials of Juan Romero de Figueroa. He's also buried there. Could it be possible to take a picture at least from the initials?. On the other hand, if you read this (page 7), you'll see than in the Gibraltar Museum there is a Spanihs Republican flag delivered by the crew of the José Luis Díaz to the TGWU. It would be nice to have a picture of the flag to illustrate the article on the Spanish Civil War. No hurries, of course. But if by chance you go to the Cathedral or the Museum, don't forget them :-)

Best regards --Ecemaml (talk) 21:39, 18 January 2010 (UTC)


 * Great!!! On the other hand, it's a pity your news about the Museum. I'll try to contact them in order to get a picture from them. Best regards --Ecemaml (talk) 22:42, 18 January 2010 (UTC)

RfC: Self-government
Talk:Gibraltar Seeing as no one thought to invite you. Justin talk 12:30, 23 January 2010 (UTC)

Rating
Hi, Gibmetal, thank you for your comments. I'll try not to forget to include references to infoboxes and images. On the other hand, could you please review Joshua Hassan and Adolfo Canepa? Thank you in advance --Ecemaml (talk) 16:44, 23 January 2010 (UTC)


 * Puffff, too many GibXXX. I didn't intend to compare you to him :-( --Ecemaml (talk) 21:55, 23 January 2010 (UTC)

Re: Category:Gibraltarian sportspeople
No problem. I'm actually learning a lot thanks to you :-) --Ecemaml (talk) 19:53, 28 January 2010 (UTC)

Finlayson
Hi Gibmetal, I tried to follow WP:NC when it says "Using names and terms most commonly used in reliable sources". As long as the record in the Australian library or some of his works in the Gibraltarian press (see this) refers to him by his initials, I thought it was his most commonly used name. But your arguments are also sensible so... be bold :-) Best regards --Ecemaml (talk) 21:46, 28 January 2010 (UTC) PS: with regard to Finlayson's book it would be interesting to review its pictures and try to determine if any of them is in the public domain.


 * As far as I understand, images from the FCO would be in the public domain as they have Crown copyright and were prior to 1957 (I can suppose). For those from the Imperial War Museum I guess it should be handled in a case-by-case fashion, since I think that maybe not all are from the British government (and therefore it's not possible to guarantee Crown Copyright). It's possible that a further question to the Village Pump at commons would be needed. On the other hand, take a look at this. There are definitely many pictures we don't have in commons. Unfortunately I don't know how to describe them. You could possibly pick some and upload then to commons. --Ecemaml (talk) 22:55, 28 January 2010 (UTC)

DYK nomination of Our Lady of Europe
Hello! Your submission of Our Lady of Europe at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and there still are some issues that may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! Materialscientist (talk) 06:27, 30 January 2010 (UTC)

Images
Hi Gibmetal77,

here you have a list of the galleries that I've found in Picasa. First set is that of galleries focusing on Gibraltar:
 * Nathan - Gibraltar
 * Thomas - Med Cruise Gibraltar to Munich Sept. 2008
 * ben2 - 04-interrail 12-05-09 tm 11-06-09 (dag 11 tm 12)
 * vmancer - gibraltar airport
 * Fran Heredia - Gibraltar Album
 * trash - This specific picture

These ones have some pictures of Gibraltar
 * Nathan - Spain (mostly of La Línea, some of the pictures features the Rock)
 * Fran Heredia - La Línea de la Concepción (mostly of La Línea, some of the pictures features the Rock)
 * auzi - Andalusie

Hope it helps. Best regards --Ecemaml (talk) 21:40, 30 January 2010 (UTC)


 * Hi, I've noticed your uploads :-) There are tens of them!!! But they'll improve many of the Gibraltar-related articles. For sure!!!
 * On the other hand, I've raised a question on the IWM pictures. My personal impression is that, unless actual sourcing is available, they should not be uploaded, as it's not possible to assert they were done by a UK Government agency. The question is in here. You're welcome to provide your opinions.
 * Best regards --Ecemaml (talk) 22:09, 31 January 2010 (UTC) PS: please, include the category "Files from Picasa" in your uploads

Back :-(
Hi Gibmetal, I've just returned from hospital to pick some items I forgot. My second kid is just born and until I reorder my real life I don't know when and how much I'll be able to work in wikipedia. I sincerely appreciate your offer and promise to consider it as soon as I return. Best regards --Ecemaml (talk) 11:19, 4 February 2010 (UTC)


 * Hi, I'm somehow back :-) Álvaro (my newborn child) is showing, at least at the moment, a very good behaviour. He sleeps yet 90% of the time, so possibly I'll contribute a little bit to wikipedia, but in a very low profile. Which was the project you wanted to talk to me about? Best regards --Ecemaml (talk) 18:27, 11 February 2010 (UTC)

Hi Gibmetal77, I appreciate your proposal, but I have to reject it :-( Not because I don't think it's an obvious development of the Wikiproject but mainly because of my objective lack of time. Mind that not only I have now two kids (the mother, as me, is hugely tired ;-)) but my regular job and also I'm starting a PhD, so my amount of available time is extremely limited (I have also to recognize that my commitment to the topics of the project is irregular, as I'm mainly interested in history and politics and not in the rest if issues). I'll try to go on as usual, creating more articles listed in the to-do list, but unfortunatelly, I cannot commit to a specific amount of articles. Sorry :-( --Ecemaml (talk) 16:18, 17 February 2010 (UTC)


 * Hi Gibmetal, I feel really honoured with your praises. Yes, we do a good team :-). I feel also more comfortable with the approach you suggest. I'm now focusing on uploading Gibraltar images (please, review them in order to find good categories), but possibly my next article will be Colin Ramirez (I'm planning also to expand Cathedral of St. Mary the Crowned. I'll keep you informed. Best regards --Ecemaml (talk) 14:54, 1 March 2010 (UTC)

Yes, I knew it. You can comment in here. Best regards --Ecemaml (talk) 13:25, 2 March 2010 (UTC)

Gibdock logo
Hi there I wonder if you could do me a favour and update the current Gibdock logo you are using on Wiki. I am trying to attach a jpeg to this message but cannot figure it out and wonder whether you could just send me your email address so I can provide suitable attachment? rb@mustardcreative.com Many thanks Roger —Preceding unsigned comment added by Raabacon (talk • contribs) 13:01, 18 February 2010 (UTC)

Non-Gibraltarians
Sorry about that - I assumed that given they were on the Gib page someone must have known what they were talking about. Just goes to show the importance of references I guess :-)  The Red Hat of Pat Ferrick t 00:33, 26 February 2010 (UTC)

Business as usual
Hi Gibmetal, no worries. The block was finally lift as, as far as I understand, was the result of a misjudgement. As I told you through email, I'd like to nominate Our Lady of Europe as a good article. But possibly there will be some issues related to the English language usage and I don't fell comfortable to fix them myself. Would you help me if I nominate the article? Best regards --Ecemaml (talk) 12:16, 5 March 2010 (UTC) PS: I'm asking the involved admin to restore Colin Ramirez. I'll keep you informed.


 * Fine :-) The nomination is ongoing. Unfortunately it seems that there is a huge backlog :-( --Ecemaml (talk) 12:58, 5 March 2010 (UTC)

I asked JohnCD to delete it. It seems that El Mundo has gone a pay newspaper and the only extensive source about Ramirez's career was in there. So... I decided not to spent more time and move to other articles (I'm working in a very short one, Alonso Hernández del Castillo and in extending Evacuation of the Gibraltarian civilian population during the Second World War. BTW, what about the wheather? I've watched on the Spanish TV that the wheather in the province of Cádiz is awful, so I guess it's the same in Gibraltar, isn't it? --Ecemaml (talk) 08:40, 9 March 2010 (UTC)

Arbcom case
You are involved in a recently-filed request for arbitration. Please review the request at Arbitration/Requests and, if you wish to do so, enter your statement and any other material you wish to submit to the Arbitration Committee. Additionally, the following resources may be of use—
 * Arbitration/Requests;
 * Arbitration guide.

Thanks, EyeSerene talk 13:34, 5 March 2010 (UTC)

ArbCom case has opened
An Arbitration case involving you has been opened, and is located here. Please add any evidence you may wish the Arbitrators to consider to the evidence sub-page, Arbitration/Requests/Case/Gibraltar/Evidence. Please submit your evidence within one week, if possible. You may also contribute to the case on the workshop sub-page, Arbitration/Requests/Case/Gibraltar/Workshop.

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Mucha suerte
Hi Gibmetal, I didn't see your notice in your page before sending you an email. But it's the same. Please, take care of yourself and have a good luck. Everything going to be OK. Take it for sure. --Ecemaml (talk) 11:39, 22 March 2010 (UTC)

Great, great, great!!!!
See this. Images are either from members of the US Navy or postcards from 1909 with unknown author (i.e. it's copyright has expired). Once we both are back we'll have a interesting work to do. I'd need also your help with User:Ecemaml/Nursery/List of Gibraltar placenames, but only when you've recovered from surgery. I'm sending you an email :-) --Ecemaml (talk) 09:21, 30 March 2010 (UTC)


 * Feel free to enhance the article whatever you can. My only concern may be references (that is, do we have any reference of which the Spanish language equivalents of the street names are? Otherwise, WPO:OR may be argued). On the other hand, I've contacted, the author of File:Defensas de gibraltar 1704.jpg and he has given me the reference he's used. I'll try to ask him for it but if not possible, I'll try to go the the National Library to get a copy. It would be interesting if you can establish an equivalence between the geographical names of the map and the current ones. I'll keep on working. Best regards --Ecemaml (talk) 20:41, 31 March 2010 (UTC)

Our Lady of Europe
Hi Gibmetal, the review of the article has started. The reviewer has raised two issues, one related to the references (which I'll try to fix) and other related to the introduction (seen by the reviewer as poor). Can you please take care of the introduction? I trust your English language skills more than mine :-) Best regards --Ecemaml (talk) 19:25, 1 April 2010 (UTC)


 * Nice to see you again. Hope everything is OK. I answered your email and I'm indeed quite happy to be you're active again. Hope we'll be able to finish John Mackintosh Square very soon (I have sources for improving Main Street, Parliament Building and City Hall and hope to be able to include them before my topic ban). See you soon --Ecemaml (talk) 20:35, 22 April 2010 (UTC)

Juan Mateos
Hi Gibmetal, could you please review User:Ecemaml/Nursery/Juan Mateos. It's ready from my side, so it can go live once it's properly reviewed. Best regards --Ecemaml (talk) 21:49, 23 April 2010 (UTC)


 * Thanks!!! --Ecemaml (talk) 21:07, 25 April 2010 (UTC)

John Mackintosh Square
Hi Gibmetal, the article is ready from my side. Please, could you review it and when finished move it to the main name space. Best regards --Ecemaml (talk) 21:52, 26 April 2010 (UTC)


 * No problem. I read in the Chronicle about the power failure, so I supposed your lack of activity could be related to that (anyway I was a little bit worried, so I had planned to email you if you'd have been out for another day). Please, review the article since it possibly includes some minor grammar and spelling mistakes. Do you think it can be suggested as DYK? Best regards —Ecemaml (talk) 06:01, 30 April 2010 (UTC)

Ooopps, I didn't notice the DYK of Juan Mateos. I'd better wait for it to be processes before moving John Mackintosh Square to the main space. On the other hand, I'm going to the public library close to my parents' home this Saturday. I need a couple of books to finish the List of place names. I expect it to be finished by next week. OTOH I've began to expand Gibraltar City Hall. --Ecemaml (talk) 09:39, 30 April 2010 (UTC)


 * Can you please review User:Ecemaml/Nursery/Gibtelecom? Best regards --Ecemaml (talk) 21:50, 30 April 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for your review on Gibtelecom :-)

On the other hand, your suggestions about John Mackintosh Square are quite accurate. I'll try to trimmer it, but it'll require a review from your side. I'll keep you informed. Best regards --Ecemaml (talk) 21:07, 2 May 2010 (UTC)

Larios family
Hi Gibmetal, I'm not really sure about how to describe the "national" status of the Larios family. I guess (today I'm at my parents home without access to my books) that the original sentence talking about Pablo Larios was almost textually quoted from the source. The original sentence was "Gibraltarian-born but member of a Spanish family". As far as I've read, both in British and Spanish sources, the Larios were a Spanish family both for origin and possibly for nationality (passport), even if three generations of one of the branches of the family actually were born in Gibraltar (even so, Pablo Antonio Larios was one of the wealthiest persons in Gibraltar, being member of the Commercial and Exchange Library Committee and of the Sanitary Commission, the antecessor of the City Hall, and therefore being fully integrated in the civil society of Gibraltar; his son, the Marquis of Marzales, was the Master of the Royal Calpe Hunt for 45 years). In spite of being born in Gibraltar, the had a large number of properties in the Campo and the Marquis of Marzales lived in a country mansion in San Roque (I guess). So I think that possibly your description ("Gibraltarian-born of Spanish descent") is not accurate. What do you think? --Ecemaml (talk) 11:32, 1 May 2010 (UTC)


 * The source says this:

"It was bought in 1874 by Pablo Larios who was a wealthy Gibraltarian-born member of a Spanish family, and he refurbished it completely."


 * See you. --Ecemaml (talk) 21:37, 2 May 2010 (UTC)

If you're interested in the topic, you can see the following references (all in Spanish): --Ecemaml (talk) 09:46, 3 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Medina Sidonia, Larios, March, latifundistas en el Campo de Gibraltar
 * Los Larios en el campo de Gibraltar
 * Los Larios en Andalucía y el campo de Gibraltar (I)
 * Los Larios en Andalucía y el campo de Gibraltar (II)


 * Sorry to but in. I attended a lecture at the John Mackintosh Hall about two weeks ago on the Royal Calpe Hunt. The Marquis of Marzales (Pablo Larios if I'm not mistaken?) was discussed and apparently he was educated in the United Kingdom and his identity was "subject to dispute". It was also suspected that he might have enjoyed some form of dual nationality. My understanding is that he was a member of Gibraltar, Spanish and British society: Gibraltar through his connection to the Calpe Hunt, birthplace etc.; Spain through his commercial interests, lived in Algeciras, part of the Spanish aristocracy?; and British through his education, fluent in English, his son was the godchild of the the King (don't quote me on this last point though!). That's about as much as I can remember from the lecture, but it might as well prove useful. RedCoat10 (talk) 14:41, 3 May 2010 (UTC)

No matter, your contribution is interesting. Well, although I was actually referring to the father of the Marquis of Marzales (also named Pablo Larios) the appreciation about the Marquis seems appropriate (although I think that the British side —not the Gibraltarian— is possibly the weakest, even if his son was the godchild of the British King, that seems sensible). Writing an article about the Larios family (and also about the Gibraltar Museum) would be a good idea. See you --Ecemaml (talk) 17:56, 11 May 2010 (UTC)

Quinqueliteral (5-letter) roots in Maltese
Hi Gibmetal77! Could you maybe help me out: I would like to know if the Maltese language exhibits any roots with five or more consonants – also if they only exist only in slang. If it does, are these roots inflected as verbs, as nouns, as adjectives etc.? Are these inflections problematic? How does the National Council for the Maltese Language address these roots? How do speakers of Maltese regard these roots? Any information (and many examples!) would be greatly appreciated! Please write me here on my talk page. Thanks very much, Dan ☺ 13:04, 1 May 2010 (UTC)

DYK nomination of Juan Mateos
Hello! Your submission of Juan Mateos at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and there still are some issues that may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! Allen3 talk 22:50, 3 May 2010 (UTC)


 * I've reworked the paragraphs, but a deeper review would be possibly required. Best regards --Ecemaml (talk) 07:11, 4 May 2010 (UTC)

Off
Hi Gibmetal, I'm getting more and more stressed because of the comments in the Arbitration Case and because of the certain possibility of being topic banned. Therefore, I've decided to step back for a while, at least until the ArbCom comes with a decision on my case. If I'm topic banned I'll wait the proposed three months before editing again. See you and take care or "our" articles :-)

Best regards --Ecemaml (talk) 12:20, 4 May 2010 (UTC)


 * Thank you!!! Anyway, I don't think I'll be able to stop following your editions, so if you need further referencing or whatever, don't hesitate in asking for them. I just want this arbitration nightmare to finish, with any result. See you and thank you for taking both John Mackintosh Square and Gibtelecom to the DYK board. It's a pity that in my books I have far less information about Casemates Square, for instance. --Ecemaml (talk) 06:48, 5 May 2010 (UTC)

DYK nomination of Gibtelecom
Hello! Your submission of Gibtelecom at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and there still are some issues that may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! The Bushranger (talk) 07:07, 5 May 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Gibtelecom
The DYK project (nominate) 08:03, 9 May 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Juan Mateos
The DYK project (nominate) 08:03, 10 May 2010 (UTC)

Back
Hi Gibmetal77, I'm more or less back (with very scarce time, but I'd try to go on with my contributions). Best regards --Ecemaml (talk) 17:53, 11 May 2010 (UTC)


 * Enjoy, I expect it will be interesting. Don't forget to take your camera. Have we got one from the Gibraltar Museum façade? --Ecemaml (talk) 18:26, 11 May 2010 (UTC)

Arbitration/Requests/Case/Gibraltar
This arbitration case has been closed and the final decision is available at the link above. The following is a summary of the remedies enacted:


 * Any uninvolved administrator may, in his or her own discretion, impose sanctions on any editor editing Gibraltar or other articles concerning the history, people, or political status of Gibraltar if, after a warning, that editor repeatedly or seriously violates the behavioral standards or editorial processes of Wikipedia in connection with these articles.
 * Discretionary sanctions imposed under the provisions of this decision may be appealed to the imposing administrator, the appropriate administrators' noticeboard (currently the Arbitration Enforcement noticeboard) or the Arbitration Committee.
 * is topic-banned from editing the Gibraltar article and other articles concerning the history, people, and political status of Gibraltar, broadly construed, for one year. Should Gibnews return to editing relating to Gibraltar following this period, he is reminded to edit in accordance with the principles discussed in this decision and will be subject to the discretionary sanctions remedy should he fail to do so.
 * Gibnews is strongly warned that nationally or ethnically offensive comments are prohibited on Wikipedia and that substantial sanctions, up to a ban from the site, will be imposed without further warning in the event of further violations.
 * is topic-banned from editing Gibraltar  and other articles concerning the history, people, and political status of Gibraltar, broadly construed, for three months. Should Justin A Kuntz return to editing relating to Gibraltar following this period, he is reminded to edit in accordance with the principles discussed in this decision and will be subject to the discretionary sanctions remedy should he fail to do so.
 * is admonished for having, at times, assumed bad faith and edited tendentiously concerning the history and political status of Gibraltar.
 * Editors are reminded that when editing in subject areas of bitter and long-standing real-world conflict, it is all the more important to comply with Wikipedia policies such as assuming good faith of all editors including those on the other side of the real-world dispute, writing with a neutral point of view, remaining civil and avoiding personal attacks, utilizing reliable sources for contentious or disputed assertions, and resorting to dispute resolution where necessary.
 * Any editor who is closely associated with a particular source or website relating to the subject of Gibraltar or any other article is reminded to avoid editing that could be seen as an actual or apparent attempt to promote that source or website or to give it undue weight over other sources or website in an article's references or links. To avoid even the appearance of impropriety, it may be best in these circumstances to mention the existence of the source or website on the talkpage, and allow the decision whether to include it in the article to made by others.

For the Arbitration Committee, ---- Александр Дмитрий (Alexandr Dmitri) (talk) 23:17, 11 May 2010 (UTC)

DYK for John Mackintosh Square
The DYK project (nominate) 00:02, 16 May 2010 (UTC)

Re: capital punishment
Hi Gibmetal77, sorry for the delay. On Friday I have to go to the hospital with my son. Yesterday, I repeated and went with my daughter. Nothing severe, but I had to take a day off on Friday and spend most of my time with them. Additionally, I have to submit an article on one of the subjects of my PhD courses by tomorrow, so I haven't had much time.

I've been browsing very quickly Ellicott's book looking for further information. I've only found information about the Alameda Gardens being used as place for executions (before becoming the gardens, of course). I'll add it as soon as possible (now I'm not at home). I'll try also to find the right reference of Williams' book. I'll try to review also Bond and Hills' books, but it's difficult, as we're looking for information about a topic that is possible scattered across some hundred pages. I'll keep on searching and editing the article as information comes out. See you --Ecemaml (talk) 14:55, 16 May 2010 (UTC)


 * Thank you. Alvaro seems to have problems with cow milk (we were thinking of switching from maternal breastfeeding, but he started to vomit). Raquel is passing her fourth tonsillitis in this year. Besides that, everything is OK :-) See you --Ecemaml (talk) 15:33, 16 May 2010 (UTC)

El Calpense
It's great that you've bought the bulletin and therefore the article may be expanded. There is a book on the press of Gibraltar by a Spanish scholar, Francisco Tornay (I guess he's from La Línea) but it's not easibly found in Spanish libraries. I'll keep an eye on your expansion (if you can scan the El Calpense section from the bulletin and send it to me I'd be very glad). Best regards --Ecemaml (talk) 15:01, 16 May 2010 (UTC) PS: I think it will be a very good idea to have a list of wished pictures from Gibraltar. I'll write a sketch in the Wikiproject space and let some interested people know it (maybe RedCoat...)

Dorothy Ellicott
Hi, Gibmetal, a new article is almost finished: User:Ecemaml/Nursery/Dorothy Ellicott. If you could review it, it would be really appreciated :-) Best regards --Ecemaml (talk) 21:47, 23 May 2010 (UTC)

Map
Well, the problem could be in Location map Gibraltar. The coordinates listed as "centre of the map" are actually in the center of a triangle whose corners are Manilva, Jimena de la Frontera and Castellar de la Frontera (try to follow the link in 36.336°N 5.35615°W). Compare the coordinates in the template with those in Gibraltar (36.143ºN 5.353ºW). So, as far as I can verify, the templates in, for instance Napier of Magdala Battery or St Bernard's Hospital, allow to introduce latitude and longitude parameters (to be used in the map) and a coords to display textual coordinates at the top of the article (or whatever). Mind that, in such articles, the values of the latitude are different. I think that if the template is fixed with the proper coordinate values, it would work (the articles already using the map should be updated anyway). Would it be possible? --Ecemaml (talk) 21:32, 27 May 2010 (UTC)


 * Fine!!! I've fixed Moorish Castle, but coordinates in Rock of Gibraltar are wrong! All the articles in here must be reviewed :-( --Ecemaml (talk) 22:12, 27 May 2010 (UTC)

I think I've fixed also Rock of Gibraltar :-) --Ecemaml (talk) 18:01, 28 May 2010 (UTC)

Question on List of Peninsulas
Hi. I am trying to bring the attention of editors to a question on List of Peninsulas talk page. This relates to the "isthmus" issue that seems to have remained unanswered in previous inquiries on the same talk page. By solving the example I set forward maybe we could also reach a consensus on what is the peninsula standard that should be used. If more than one standard exist (for example, traditional or popular use and academic use) we could explain them all(?). Please let me know if you would like to contribute to this question. Thank you!Ilidio Martins (talk) 12:18, 28 May 2010 (UTC)

DYK nomination of Dorothy Ellicott
Hello! Your submission of Dorothy Ellicott at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and there still are some issues that may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! Allen3 talk 10:46, 30 May 2010 (UTC)