User talk:Giftiger wunsch/Malamanteau discussion

Reverted patent nonsense
Hi Giftiger Wunsch! I don't think it was fair to describe my comment as nonsense and restored it partly. The original comment was a description that the timeline of a specific topic is less important than the factual impact it has (age is less important than use and public circulation to measure notability in my opinion). When a topic is about a neologism and the pre-poster referred to a Simpsons neologism in comparison, it is pretty hard to avoid using them, don't you think? I understand that you want to remove joke comments and keep the discussion serious, however at the same time be so kind and allow some degree of linguistic freedom in discussions. Thanks. - 83.249.211.2 (talk) 14:00, 14 May 2010 (UTC)
 * I'm all for linguistic freedom, but your comment was very clearly a joke response to a serious discussion, and since you used two invented words, it was confused at best. I noticed you replaced the comment I removed, and I have no issue with the perfectly sensible replacement.  Giftiger Wunsch    [TALK]  14:03, 14 May 2010 (UTC)
 * You realise that the sentence you removed actually was a malapropism combined with a neologism... a perfect example of a malamanteau. :) - 83.249.211.2 (talk) 14:18, 14 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Indeed, and if you look at the article for Malapropism, the opening section states that the resulting phrase makes no sense. I think that effectively supports my reason for reverting your original comment.  Giftiger Wunsch    [TALK]  14:25, 14 May 2010 (UTC)
 * A malapropism is used to raise a humorous point... also see Merriam webster or the German Wikipedia entry (your name suggests you speak German). Congrats, you are the first Wikipedia editor to remove a malamanteau from a deletion discussion about malamanteau! :) - 83.249.211.2 (talk) 14:38, 14 May 2010 (UTC)
 * In any case, a serious discussion about action to be taken on a redirect isn't the place to attempt humour or leave confusing comments; I stand by my edit.
 * I do indeed speak German, as a second language. I have a lovely userbox for it on my user page.  Giftiger Wunsch    [TALK]  14:46, 14 May 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for proving the point
Seriously you had to delete my comment?? I didn't use foul language, just honesty. It was no more personal and "ad hominem" than *dozens* of other comments made on the very same discussion page, so you deleting my post can only logically mean that 1) you didn't like it because it rang true.. and/or 2) you are being incredibly hypocritical and biased by implementing the policy on those who might make wikipedia look bad.

You don't even have to respond to this. Chances are that you will dodge and weave and fail to acknowledge the obvious truth. I have lost all faith in wikipedia as a result of the whole "malamanteau" debacle (now at least I've become aware of this xckd comic which appears to have some humor occasionally... so thanks!). In years to come people will look back on this (or at least things LIKE this) and realize this is when wikipedia started it's decline. Thanks for ruining your own site. —Preceding unsigned comment added by HansGrundlemann (talk • contribs) 18:49, 15 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Please read WP:NPA for information. A personal attack isn't the same as foul language. Foul language is considered impolite but largely tolerated so long as it isn't also a personal attack. You are entitled to express your point of view, but personal attacks are not tolerated on wikipedia. Since it is your first offence and you may or may not be familiar with policy, I chose to leave a polite notification on your talk page to let you know. I don't see where hypocrisy comes into this. Feel free to comment on the discussion further, but please make sure you do not make further personal attacks while doing so. Thanks.  Giftiger Wunsch    [TALK]  19:18, 15 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Also as for other personal attacks on the same discussion, I didn't single you out. I wasn't patrolling the discussion for personal attacks, I saw your comment on my watchlist so I removed it per WP:NPA and notified you. If you see other personal attacks, you are just as entitled to remove them and quote WP:NPA as I am, I just choose not to spend my time trying to police the discussion, and thus only removed yours because it was brought to my attention by being on my watchlist.  Giftiger Wunsch    [TALK]  19:25, 15 May 2010 (UTC)