User talk:Giggy/Archive/August 2008

User talk:AAAAAGGGGGHHHHH!!!!!
Yeah, I realised that and added to my message. Hopefully it doesn't overwhelm a good editor and drive him or her away. James086 Talk &#124; Email 13:20, 1 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Agreed. —Giggy 13:21, 1 August 2008 (UTC)

Aussie Music
Hey Giggy, I left you a question here.--- Balloonman  PoppaBalloon 14:49, 1 August 2008 (UTC)

BH&R
Twinkle informs me that I must tell you that I reverted you, so - yeah I reverted you. I added some sources and removed the stuff I couldn't source (even though the stuff I removed was probably true too).  naerii  16:17, 1 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Yeah, I noticed that, thanks for the note, not a problem. —Giggy 16:19, 1 August 2008 (UTC)

4chan
I was contemplating reviewing this article, finding it a bit bare for in-depth coverage, and found this article in the NYT that could go a long way to making the article more comprehensive. Regards, Skomorokh  19:06, 1 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Ah, sorry, looks like you beat me too it. Skomorokh  03:20, 2 August 2008 (UTC)

GA Merit
Wow, thank you kind sir. Peanut4 (talk) 19:17, 1 August 2008 (UTC)

Re: Huggle
Ah, I never knew that, thanks for letting me know. I was just browsing recent changes and thought you made a mistake; but obviously not.  - Sorfane 09:05, 2 August 2008 (UTC)

GAN Secret of Evermore's plot section
Hello liquid, I'm reviewing the above GAN and we're pretty close to calling it done, the only problem is that some of the plot section remains unsourced because the game's dialogue does not show what's happening on screen. Does it need to be cited, and how could it be cited? If you get a minute I'd be very grateful. Someoneanother 11:31, 2 August 2008 (UTC)

Meta
I've replied to your comment; not sure if you've seen it. Thanks again for responding. Rud get  11:59, 2 August 2008 (UTC)

Shadow ArbCom
Fear not. Although the actual ArbCom has been kidnapped by villains and cannot rule on C68-FM-SV, the Acting Arbitration Committee will be considering the case starting on August 7th. (Attempts to locate the actual Arbitration Committee will continue unabated.) Feel free to aid us.  Mr. IP  《 Defender of Open Editing 》 20:29, 2 August 2008 (UTC)
 * :O —Giggy 03:30, 3 August 2008 (UTC)

4chan GA review
In the exceedingly unlikely event that you do not have an article you are bringing up to GA status watchlisted, I am leaving this message to inform you that I have reviewed 4chan and placed it on hold pending layout and image tag resolution. The fixes for this will probably not take long, maybe only 20-50 minutes of time. Hopefully we will be able to promote it shortly. Protonk (talk) 15:33, 3 August 2008 (UTC)
 * It was watchlisted; thanks for the note. —Giggy 01:23, 4 August 2008 (UTC)

RfA
It was directed at Synergy. It was used in a sarcastic sense because he had dismissed JayHnery's well-reasoned answer with one word, so I was dismissing his dismissal with also one word. JH had such a well thought out reason (one that may be disagreed with, but can be argued) that I found it insulting that Synergy had been so...dismissive. hbdragon88 (talk) 17:48, 3 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Oh... LOL. Well said. I fully agree with you.  —Giggy 01:23, 4 August 2008 (UTC)

Biography of the American Rock band Wild History
Wild History (hyperlink: www.dedalus.ch/management/wildhistory.php) first came together on September 6, 1984 in a rented Scotch Plains, New Jersey rehearsal room. Sean O’Gara (guitarist) and Ed Horton (bass) had left their band of the last several years, “The Score”, and had advertised for a drummer and a singer to form an original band. Announcing their influences as U2, The Clash, The Jam and The Gang of Four, they wanted to make music of political import which would deeply move the listener by its truth.

Joe Reina (drummer) was a basically dissatisfied drummer in a copy band known as Masquerade, and felt a move into something more adventurous would suit him. The one thing he did like about Masquerade was the singer they had recently acquired, Joe Florio (vocals). At first, Joe Reina met Sean and Ed alone. It was a satisfactory evening and all felt some sort of common chord had been struck, though they also knew that without a singer and front man they were still a long way from where they wanted to be. On that night the drummer told them about Joe Florio and that he would ask him if he would be interested in auditioning.

When Joe Reina asked him to try out for an original band, he immediately expressed interest in doing an audition. From the first notes played on that fateful September 6th evening, all felt an overwhelming sense of promise. Sean’s funky, driving Viper guitar and Orange amp combination pressed urgently between the spaces in Ed’s tuba-like, melodic Rickenbacker bass lines, while Joe’s straight ahead drumming provided the necessary steady backbeat. Joe Florio’s vital and passionate vocals urged the other three to challenge each other, thus completing the chemistry between them. On that first night an extensive nucleus of a song that would later come to define their sound, “Forget You”, was born.

Nevertheless, they all wanted to be sure this was no illusion, so they arranged to meet a second time in two weeks. On that afternoon Ed’s self-penned “Right Through My Heart” was taught and run-through several times (This would be the lead track on the band’s only album “Guns or Butter”), as well as Sean’s intense “J’ai Malais”. An unusual, quirky harmony was created between Joe and Ed in the former tune, and Sean and Joe also sounded good together. By the end of that session each one knew this was the collaboration they had been seeking.

Over the next 6 months the band refined their repertoire. Some songs were brought in as individual compositions. The aforementioned tunes, as well as Ed’s “Struggling to Be Heard” and “Cousin Danny’s in the I.R.A.”, and Joe Florio’s “Going Now” and “John Smith” were composed and/or refined. But it was the songs they wrote almost effortlessly in jam sessions (something that would come to be standard for the group for most of its history) that left the greatest impression on the members: “Forget You”, “French Bayonet”, “Bombs”, “Too Hot to Trotsky”, and the signature Wild History song that was never left out of a gig, “Dear Mom”. Ed and Sean felt they had undoubtedly achieved their goal of making moving and important music, and the two Joes were completely enthused by what was happening, and impressed by the talents of the other two.

By the winter of 1985 the band was playing in small New Jersey clubs but they had not yet been able to attract the interest of he recording industry. Wild History decided that gigs were not as paramount as obtaining a recording contract, and therefore turned their attention to recording a demo. Their first two attempts failed to capture the sound they produced “live”. Finally, in the summer of 1985 they came up with a successful demo recording, and began sending the tape out to record companies. However, nothing came of these efforts over two months.

During this time Sean’s life changed in many ways, including the painful break-up of a long relationship and the offer of full-time work as an animal rights activist. Unfortunately, taking this position required a move to Maryland. He accepted it, though, and reluctantly informed the group members of his decision. Sean had been the unannounced leader of the group, and this came as a severe blow.

It took five months to find Sean’s replacement, but when Chuck Dzugan simply struck his guitar the band knew their prayers had been answered. The group’s second line-up had finally emerged, and within 4 months they were playing a strong 17 song set to audiences not only in New Jersey, but in New York City.

Eventually the band’s demo tape landed in the hands of the entertainment lawyer Alfred Goldfield, who had strong ties to the recording industry, particularly Columbia Records and Clive Davis. Soon A&R representatives from several record labels were attending the band’s performances regularly. Nevertheless, the band remained unsigned.

They remained confident, however, and found an investor to fund the recording and pressing of their only album, “Guns or Butter” (Breaking Records, 1987. In the end, the album did not fully meet the band’s sonic expectations, though it did reach the Top 10 on several college radio play lists (CMJ Report, April and May 1987). The record companies were still interested, though, so the band began rehearsing intensely, and in a few weeks was gigging again in New York City before record company representatives.

This final stage of the band’s history had its interesting points, one of which was the writing became more individual and less collective. This had not been a part of the writing process up to this point. It was a relatively prolific period in which the individual personalities took center stage, though each always had the band’s best interests in mind.

Soon they were in the studio recording the band compositions “I Tell the Lies”, "Stay Awhile" and “Whatcha Gonna Do?”, and a song that ironically garnered some interest, Joe Florio’s “In Our Time” (CMJ Report’s “Certain Damage” CD, Vol. 15), ironic because it was not at all a signature Wild History tune. Joe Florio's “How in the World (Would I Know)”, “Eye of the Serpent” and "I'm Washin' Away", a singular rendition of Harry Nilsson’s “Jump into the Fire” (which the band had been playing in concert since the early days), Sean’s “Rule of the Hammer”, and Chuck’s “The Savour” also made their way to tape. Though this was an interesting period, it was perhaps this more individualistic stage of the band’s career that later proved to be the main contributing factor to its demise.

After the recording industry lost interest in the band in early 1989, Wild History decided to disband in the summer of that year.

Noragiannini (talk) 20:53, 3 August 2008 (UTC)
 * That's good. Keep it up. —Giggy 01:23, 4 August 2008 (UTC)

I'm jealous
I've never had someone write an article on my talkpage before. Congratulations! S. Dean Jameson 20:46, 3 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Man! you know Giggy's cool when something like that happens... I wish I was that cool... - Adolphus79 (talk) 22:27, 3 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Especially such an objective one... Tan      39  22:30, 3 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Whaaaaaaaaaa...? —Giggy 01:23, 4 August 2008 (UTC)

Biography on Wild History
Dear Giggy,

Please excuse the posting of the article on the American rock band Wild History yesterday without a previous request. This is the very first time I have attempted an entry for Wikipedia and did not fully understand the protocol. .

I am hoping that you could spare the time to comment on this first draft of an article I would like to contribute.

I look forward to hearing from you.

Sincerely,

Noragiannini (talk) 06:11, 4 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Hello. I would suggest you take a look at Your first article, which provides a useful reference on how to contribute an article to Wikipedia. Let me know if you need any help after that. Cheers. —Giggy 07:44, 4 August 2008 (UTC)

Featured article candidates/1995 Japanese Grand Prix‎
Hey Giggy/DHMO (can I still respond to you as DHMO?!), just letting you know I've responded to your comments at the above FAC. Please respond back. Thanks, D.M.N. (talk) 08:05, 4 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Call me anything you like! Responded. —Giggy 08:10, 4 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Ping! D.M.N. (talk) 08:29, 4 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Gimme a sec and I'll take another look (busy with something else). —Giggy 08:31, 4 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks. ;) D.M.N. (talk) 10:14, 4 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the Support. :) D.M.N. (talk) 07:57, 6 August 2008 (UTC)

"Deja Vu" audio file
Hello giggy. As objected in the previous FAC, the audio file Image:DejaVuSample.ogg must be reduced in fidelity to comply WP:NFCC. With another try, I'll bring Déjà Vu (Beyoncé Knowles song) to FAC room sometime this month, hopefully, and I need your help to do the abovementioned. Thank in advance. You may check the previous FAC if you want. =) --Efe (talk) 12:16, 4 August 2008 (UTC)
 * I ran it through Audacity and it's now 71kbps. Not sure if the sound quality is any good, and I'm not in the position where I can test it now, but hopefully this helps. —Giggy 23:13, 4 August 2008 (UTC)
 * At least its now of lower fidelity. Thanks giggy. --Efe (talk) 23:55, 4 August 2008 (UTC)

thankspam
That's okay &mdash; maybe I wasn't born to be an admin in the first place. That's life, and I can just keep on keeping on without the tools, which is what I'll do. I know you've been through the process a few times, and I think it's a travesty that you're not an admin yourself. In the event that you're not sick of RfAs and you're up for another someday, you'll have my strong support, pal. Cheers,  Mr. IP  《 Defender of Open Editing 》 14:43, 4 August 2008 (UTC)

Many thanks!
Seriously though, thanks for a superb co-nomination, and for your persistent nagging. Without you, I'd never have had the courage to do this. You have my utmost thanks. Gazi moff  20:57, 4 August 2008 (UTC)

Check my initial GA review?
Giggy,

Can I get you to review my review of Civilian Public Service, at Talk:Civilian_Public_Service/GA2? I'd like feedback on my review before I link it, and I'd also like a second opinion on the things I've listed as questionable. Would you mind helping out YANGAR (Yet Another N00b GA Reviewer)? Jclemens (talk) 05:10, 5 August 2008 (UTC)

Processed meat products
Giggy, thank you very much. The faith that you, and many others, have shown shall not be misplaced. I am most grateful for the kind nomination&mdash;left to myself I may have done something in the next year or two!. Hopefully sometime today I'll be finished with staring at the company GL and be able to checkout the new buttons. - Peripitus (Talk) 07:49, 5 August 2008 (UTC)

GA and FA Taskforce
(message from WP:VG)

Okay I just made a cabal that was created to focus on one article at a time and then the entire cabal would have helped to get that article to at least GA status(or even FA). So I then requested the cabal to be deleted after a long talk about it and so i then had a conversation with Keeper 76 and xeno about the cabal after the deletion. Afterwords, xeno suggested a GA FA taskforce in WP:VG that would do the same thing my cabal would have done. So now i come before the grand court known as WP:VG to suggest a GA FA taskforce. My taskforce will pick one article at a time to build, move to another and and build that one. This would give WP:VG many more GA and FA. Consider my proposal. Gears  of War 2 21:49, 5 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Um... OK. I don't get why you can't just write the articles and ask for help at WT:VG if you need it. I also don't get why you're telling me this. >_> —Giggy 23:35, 5 August 2008 (UTC)
 * See Keeper 7's talkpage. Gears  of War 2 23:58, 5 August 2008 (UTC)

Now there's a watchlist entry that gets my attention :-) Sandy Georgia  (Talk) 00:03, 6 August 2008 (UTC)
 * I don't want to know if that's a good thing... ;-) —Giggy 07:36, 6 August 2008 (UTC)

Voliminal: Inside the Nine GA review
I have addressed your comments concerning Voliminal: Inside the Nine. Let me know if there's anymore. Thank you!  Black ngold29  16:49, 6 August 2008 (UTC)

Comment
(The following is a message I wrote to User:Irpen recently where I apologised for my loss of temper. In the message I speak to anyone I have upset/angered and I apologise to them. As you and I have had our disagreements, Giggy, I thought it'd be advantageous to paste you the message too. I hope you can forgive me.) - Yeah... *through gritted teeth* thanks Keeper. - No. I shall stop being angry now. I guess I've always had a bad temper on here and it really has collided with some people. I've decided to stop giving into the addiction :-) - I don't think I'm a bad person. I know how to be nice and polite. I guess I just lose control when I see things that I believe are wrong. That happens with everyone. Irpen, in the past, I've found some of your comments to be enraging to the point of wanting to burn my whole flat down. But oh well :-) I am passed that as of now. I have nothing against you personally. You're a human being. I'm genetically programmed to love you in some sort of fashion. Maybe not physically just yet... We'll talk about that another time (if you're into that sort of thing... I'm game if you are?). Anyway, I'd just like to say I'm sorry for losing my temper with you. I promise I won't engage in any future discussions on Wikipedia that will lead to me swearing or losing my temper. This includes ignoring Kurt Maxwell Weber, any cabals, Daniel Brandt, and the poo (that's not a swear word) stain that is Wiki Review. I promise I won't make fun of, belittle, insult or upset anyone (intentionally) ever again on Wikipedia or Wikipedia Review or on the Internet in general. I wholeheartedly and unreservedly apologise to anyone whom I have upset over the past 17 months and I will endeavour to patch things up with them again. Thank you to everyone whom has been nice to me :-) Scarian Call me Pat!  21:07, 6 August 2008 (UTC)

The WPVG Newsletter (August 2008)

 * Newsletter delivery by xenobot  22:12, 6 August 2008 (UTC)

The Office (U.S. TV series) season 5 peer review
If you've got time, could you please review The Office (U.S. TV series) season 5 at Peer review/The Office (U.S. TV series) season 5/archive1? Even though it is a short article, I would like to receive any comments that you have to improve it; one of the primary reasons for the Peer Review is so that it is considered an audited article for a future Featured Topic candidacy. Thanks! Gary King ( talk ) 02:16, 10 August 2008 (UTC)


 * The same thing goes for Half-Life 2: Episode Three at Wikipedia:Peer review/Half-Life 2: Episode Three/archive1. Thanks! Gary King ( talk ) 02:23, 10 August 2008 (UTC)

Thankyou
Just a little note to say thankyou for participating in my successful RFA candidacy, which passed with 96 supports, 0 opposes, and 1 neutral. I am pleasantly taken aback by the amount of support for me to contribute in an administrative role and look forward to demonstrating that such faith is well placed. Regards, WilliamH (talk) 11:32, 11 August 2008 (UTC)

Featured article candidates/Made in the Dark
Hey Giggy. I know that your activity levels are low, but could you do me an enormous favour? Could you just look over Made in the Dark again? I've hopefully addressed the concerns you raised. Seraphim&hearts; Whipp  11:33, 11 August 2008 (UTC)

WP:CHICAGO
According to my records, you have nominated at least one article (Midtown Madness & Norman Finkelstein) that includes a category at WP:CHIBOTCATS and that has been promoted to WP:FA, WP:FL or WP:GA. You are not signed up as an active member of WP:CHICAGO. If you consider yourself either an active or semi-active member of the project please sign up as such at WikiProject Chicago/members. Also, if you are a member, be aware of Meetup/Chicago 3 and be advised that the project is now trying to keep all the project's WP:PR, WP:FAC, WP:FAR, WP:GAR, WP:GAC WP:FLC, WP:FLRC, WP:FTC, WP:FPOC, WP:FPC, and WP:AFD discussion pages in one location at the new WikiProject Chicago/Review page. Please help add any discussion you are aware of at this location.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTM) 18:14, 11 August 2008 (UTC)

Image Question
Hi oh wizard of images. When you're back, would you mind peeking in here? I don't know the asnwer but I know this is your territory. TravellingCari 20:38, 12 August 2008 (UTC)

ACC
Hi im Hereford formally Electrical Experiment I recently Usurped, do i need to change my username on ACC? Here  Ford


 * Personally, I'd skip on the ACC. Pac-10 is where the real power is, with USC the best football team ever (though we WILL beat them this year, I swear). hbdragon88 (talk) 03:26, 15 August 2008 (UTC)

4chan
Glaring oversight in the introduction which you really should fix: "Users generally post anonymously, and the site has been linked to 'Anonymous' and Project Chanology. The Guardian describes 4chan as 'at once brilliant, ridiculous and alarming.'" That's clearly a description of how the site produces content, rather than its impact upon anonymity and conduct. It's an error which runs through the article, ignoring the fact that there is nothing proactive or technology-focused about the website: what sets it apart is the presence of lawspeakers and "chan culture" in relaying discussions. Ottre (talk) 18:59, 15 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Tried to clarify a bit . Feel free to do what you can to make it better. —Giggy 01:30, 16 August 2008 (UTC)

Made in the Dark
Hey, can you do me a favour for a friend? FAC needs one of the sources replaced, and Seraphim Whipp's inactive atm. I think you'll be more help than me because you've written quite a few music FAs. Sceptre (talk) 00:45, 17 August 2008 (UTC)

bh&r
sorry! haha, i had a moment of unjustified confidence i guess. ill take it back up there in sept-oct sometime.  naerii  09:10, 17 August 2008 (UTC)

Don't for one second...
Don't for one second think that I've forgotten our agreement. I've just gotta talk to our Music Director and find something for you to write! Lankiveil (speak to me) 11:04, 17 August 2008 (UTC).
 * Music Director is you, isn't it? Sorry, internets died on me. —Giggy 11:58, 17 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Nope, I'm the Executive Director! I'll talk with Mr D about what you could do (although if you have any horrendously POV essays or articles inside you screaming to get out, I'm willing to listen to ideas)!  Lankiveil (speak to me) 10:45, 18 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Of course :P —Giggy 12:31, 18 August 2008 (UTC)

Re: Image issue
Thanks for the heads-up; I think I may have mistakenly tagged them free initially because I thought that the publisher's rights had defaulted to Ubisoft. (I really need to get adminship in commons; it's burning me I can't see deleted stuff :P) I'm uploading them for fair use locally. Der Wohltemperierte Fuchs ( talk ) 13:45, 17 August 2008 (UTC)
 * My german is dismal, but I did my best to explain. I've restored all the local versions on en.wp. Der Wohltemperierte Fuchs ( talk  ) 14:11, 17 August 2008 (UTC)

Co-nom
Sure, you can, Mr. Giggy.  bibliomaniac 1  5  19:36, 17 August 2008 (UTC) PS: This is awkward...drop the titles next time.

Thanks...
Just thought you'd like to know, after your support at the FAC, a star is now shining in the top right corner. Thanks! =D D.M.N. (talk) 12:53, 18 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks. Expect a similar article at FAC within the forthcoming months. =P D.M.N. (talk) 13:03, 18 August 2008 (UTC)

FYI
I emailed you a while ago. Prodego talk  05:34, 19 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Replied now. —Giggy 06:55, 19 August 2008 (UTC)

GA reviews
Hi! I've just written my very first GA review and would really appreciate some feedback so I know if I'm doing it completely wrong. Cheers, MSGJ (talk) 19:07, 19 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Generally good. I might have put it on hold instead of failing it as the issues can potentially be resolved fairly quickly (but then, you're probably open to taking another look anyway). I also wouldn't suggest complete removal of the CBC section, but perhaps a reworking into the main Controversey section (in a less undue-weight-ish way). I've added a quick comment on the review. —Giggy 19:53, 19 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks for that. I'll have a look at it again in a few days. Will it need nominating again or can I just promote it? MSGJ (talk) 06:10, 20 August 2008 (UTC)
 * I would keep an eye out and leave some more comments (or pass it) if the issues are resolved quickly, but it's probably up to the original nominator to take the initiative otherwise. —Giggy 06:57, 20 August 2008 (UTC)

WikiProject Good Articles Newsletter
Sorry about the delay. AWB has been having a few issues lately. Here is the august issue of the WikiProject Good Articles Newsletter! Dr. Cash (talk) 20:33, 19 August 2008 (UTC)

Re pillars
Thanks! :D Fixeditverygood (talk) 07:37, 20 August 2008 (UTC)

4chan
Nice work w/ the WP:GA and thanks for updating Portal:Internet. It would be really nice if somehow we could find a free-use image to go along with the blurb... Cirt (talk) 12:24, 20 August 2008 (UTC)

1995 Pacific Grand Prix
Hi. After the 1995 Japanese Grand Prix successfully became an FA last week, I'm now working on the 1995 Pacific Grand Prix article. I was wondering whether you could review the article, leaving comments on the peer review page. Kind regards, D.M.N. (talk) 14:06, 20 August 2008 (UTC)
 * OK. Not to worry. D.M.N. (talk) 10:34, 21 August 2008 (UTC)

Michael Phelps playing Age of Empires
Regarding this edit you made, it seems to be true, according to the New York Times (see following link)→ [of empires&st=cse&scp=1] (also mentioned in these links, for instance: and ; plus, a lot appears in a Google search). I'm not sure if this fact is relevant, though... Happy editing, (and happy to encounter you again after so much time) ♠  TomasBat  22:20, 20 August 2008 (UTC)
 * A cool snippet of trivia! I threw it back in with a source. Thanks! —Giggy 23:49, 20 August 2008 (UTC)

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Thanks...
Thanks for your support. Now the List of number-one Billboard Top Latin Albums of 1999 is a Featured List.

Once again, thank you, Jaespinoza (talk) 20:59, 21 August 2008 (UTC)

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No He Hasnt
When he goes around Marking pages for deletion and then deleting them from PS's account, When he reviews his own friends block and declines it in a manner of a joke, and protects his userpage, When he protects pages to keep his revisions, when he openly lies to his friends and tells half truthes, when he lets his girlfriend use his account. Heaqrd enough or shall i continue. In short, Heads gotta roll and we will wait and see what Jimbo and the Arbitrators do.  « l | Ψrom3th3ăn ™ | l »   (talk) 14:16, 23 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Im aware that PS and CB have been de-sysoped you nutter, what im saying is its not okey when he had done (past tense) those things. Again Heads must roll, people dont comit murder and get away with it because "They wont do it again"  « l | Ψrom3th3ăn ™ | l »   (talk) 16:44, 23 August 2008 (UTC)

August 2008
Welcome to Wikipedia. Although everyone is welcome to contribute constructively to the encyclopedia, we would like to remind you not to attack other editors. Please comment on the contributions and not the contributors. Take a look at the welcome page to learn more about contributing to this encyclopedia. StaticGull <font style="color:Black;background:Turquoise;"> Talk 14:28, 23 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the charming welcome. :-) You're only 2 years late. —Giggy 14:31, 23 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Havent we already got enough daft civility police who see "personal attacks" under every rock? --Malleus Fatuorum (talk) 14:33, 23 August 2008 (UTC)
 * When the going gets tough, the civility police rise to the challenge. —Giggy 14:34, 23 August 2008 (UTC)


 * More's the pity. I just wish they'd all try to get out a bit a bit more, become extinct, grow up ... or something like that anyway. ;-) --Malleus Fatuorum (talk) 14:38, 23 August 2008 (UTC)


 * Where is Prom3th3an's "welcome wagon" warning for calling Giggy a "nutter?" Or even worse, for comparing a wikipedia password sharing incident to murder, demanding that "head's roll"?  Isn't that a physical threat?  <font color="#21421E" face="comic sans ms">Keeper   <font color="#CC7722" face="Papyrus">76  17:05, 23 August 2008 (UTC)


 * I decided to strike that warning out, There's already to much happy clappy crap on Wikipedia as is, besides sometimes being blunt can be very satisfying ;-)  « l | Ψrom3th3ăn ™ | l »   (talk) 17:30, 23 August 2008 (UTC)


 * (<-) Giggy, I'm extremely disappointed in you for making this egregious personal attack. I'm surprised that you haven't yet been blocked indefinitely - I'd do so myself if I was still an admin. (Though seriously, I think that bashing these "civility police" like this isn't really fair - they're probably just too new to know any better. I know I was a rampant advocate of "civility" up until a few months ago.) Nousernamesleft (talk) 20:04, 23 August 2008 (UTC)


 * First time I noticed that you'd given up +sysop, Nousernamesleft. Darkspots (talk) 21:25, 23 August 2008 (UTC)


 * That I did, for rather complex reasons. Uncontroversially though, so you can be assured that supporting my RfA was not the biggest mistake you ever made - only the second or third biggest mistake. ;) Mostly, it was because I really have no interest in any adminy tasks anymore and I felt guilty keeping them, though there were other factors. Nousernamesleft (talk) 01:59, 24 August 2008 (UTC)


 * I did notice a distinct lack of controversy. Hope everything's okay, regardless. Nah, supporting your RfA was great because then I never felt guilty afterwards, dragging you out as an example of a younger admin with at least half a clue. :) Darkspots (talk) 02:37, 24 August 2008 (UTC)

NUL: Honestly? OK, I've taken your opinion on board. A block would have looked funny since I was sleeping at the time of your comment, but whatever. Oh, just noticed... indefinitely?? Wow; if we did that we'd have about 3 editors left, none of them with any ability to write articles. Aah well. I will refrain, in future, from praising the acting skills of others. —Giggy 04:22, 24 August 2008 (UTC)


 * Simmer down, he was kidding. Gah, Giggy... GAH! WP:CIV! Pull it together! This is a dictionary, I mean atlas, er... shit... uhm... thesaurus? No, damn. OH! Encyclopedia we're building here, man. Get with the program. Jennavecia  (Talk)  04:48, 24 August 2008 (UTC)


 * :-) . Respect my authoritah. I must have missed your archive link. StaticGull <font style="color:Black;background:Turquoise;"> Talk 11:54, 24 August 2008 (UTC)

9.0 FAC
I've adressed your comments concerning 9.0: Live's nomination for FAC. Let me know if there anything else that needs fixing. Thanks!  <font color="#CDB87C">Black <font color="#CDB87C">ngold29  15:06, 23 August 2008 (UTC)

Esperanza
Yes, it was a very subtle change to my sig. Since it was started on August 12, I decided to commemorate the month for it.  bibliomaniac 1  5  16:56, 23 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Esperanza? What's that? –Juliancolton <sup style="color:#666660;">Tropical  <sup style="color:#666660;">Cyclone  21:25, 23 August 2008 (UTC)
 * A warning from history or what made Wikipedia what it is today, depending on your POV. The arguments both ways are thoughtfully summarised here.<font face="Trebuchet MS"> – <font color="#E45E05">iride <font color="#C1118C">scent 21:30, 23 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Yea, that page is nice and concise. –Juliancolton <sup style="color:#666660;">Tropical <sup style="color:#666660;">Cyclone  21:54, 23 August 2008 (UTC)
 * That discussion's the sane version. Read the DRV for the full batshit-insanity of it.<font face="Trebuchet MS"> – <font color="#E45E05">iride <font color="#C1118C">scent 21:57, 23 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Jeeze, I'm almost glad I wasn't here back then. –Juliancolton <sup style="color:#666660;">Tropical <sup style="color:#666660;">Cyclone  22:50, 23 August 2008 (UTC)

Oh wow. I started 15 August. Talk about ironies, eh. —Giggy 04:22, 24 August 2008 (UTC)

Fair use Rationales
Hi, any chance of standardising those into variants of the rationale template forms that exists?

The reason for desiring standard templates is so that bots don't inadvertently mistag, and for consistency across the project.

It's also noted that some of the images that have disputed fair-use rationale for insuffcient detail, have been tagged as such because of sourcing concerns as well as detail in the actual justifcation. Perhaps you could consider further expanding the rationales you have to address such concerns?

Sfan00 IMG (talk) 00:07, 24 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Um... bots should only tag if there is no link to the article. That's the limit of machine readability tagging. The rest is human tagging, and in those cases I suggest the human read the FUR rather than looking for a template. I will look into adding extra detail. —Giggy 04:22, 24 August 2008 (UTC)

Nom
Hi Giggy, my RFA (which you co-nominated on) is now active at Requests for adminship/Lankiveil. Fingers crossed! Lankiveil (speak to me) 01:27, 24 August 2008 (UTC).
 * Yay! —Giggy 04:22, 24 August 2008 (UTC)

Spam
Could you help with this FAC? Thanks, --I'm an Editorofthewiki[citation needed] 02:01, 24 August 2008 (UTC)

GA reviewers
Where can I list my name as one of GA reviewers? Thanks in advance. --Efe (talk) 10:35, 24 August 2008 (UTC)
 * I don't know of a list, other than WP:GAN/M which is for more advanced folk, I guess. —Giggy 10:38, 24 August 2008 (UTC)

Ariel'sCorner
Yo, just letting you know that Ariel is back on WP and has even logged onto IRC. Come on back to her room! Glass  Cobra  20:48, 24 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Happy memories! —Giggy 00:56, 25 August 2008 (UTC)

Bill Brown (cricketer) impending FAC and cricket jargon
Hi there Giggy. I was wondering if you could have a quick look over this to see if I have left out any context and wikilinks and jargon, given your useful feedback on Ian Meckiff.  Blnguyen  ( bananabucket ) 08:51, 25 August 2008 (UTC)

GANs
I've got a few GANs... if you've got time :) Gary <b style="color:#02b;">King</b> ( talk ) 06:56, 25 August 2008 (UTC)
 * I've been hiding away from there for a while. Doing some FAC work, and some writing, and some bludging. Sorry —Giggy 07:08, 25 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Alright no problemo; are you still doing PR? I'd appreciate a review at StarCraft II for Peer review/StarCraft II/archive1 if you've got time; feel free to post as little as much as you can, if possible. Thanks in advance! Gary <b style="color:#02b;">King</b> ( talk ) 22:35, 25 August 2008 (UTC)

Mario & Sonic FAC
I inserted more background on the characters, check it out to see if this lead will do. User:FullMetal Falcon/sandbox‎ <font color="#666666">« ₣M₣ »  21:21, 25 August 2008 (UTC)

Pre-FAc copyedit/final review
This article has undergone a peer review and massive copyediting. I think you'll be right to finish it off. Cheers, -- Lord    Sunday   20:18, 24 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Um... OK. What gives you that idea? —Giggy 03:50, 25 August 2008 (UTC)
 * I meant could you look over it, sorry, lol. -- Lord    Sunday   12:21, 25 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Um, giggy, are you gonna look over it? not to sound hasty, but Serendi and I would like to get it done ASAP. Thanks, -- LordSunday    (₪Scribe₪)   (♦)  14:04, 26 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Probably not. Telling people that they have to look at an article because you think they're the right person for the job (hint: I know very little if anything about the subject matter) is a sure fire way to get a "no". —Giggy 08:15, 27 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Um, okay... I asked someone more experienced with the subject matter to do the job, thanks anyway. -- Lord   ₪   Sunday   13:18, 27 August 2008 (UTC)

Thriller lead
Hi Giggy, I've left a message at the FA assessment, not sure what you think. I'm quite happy for you to alter the lead to how you like it, I'm not too OWNy with the article. You did a good job fixing the lead to Discipline (Janet Jackson album) when that was at GA so I trust you can do a better job than me :-) — Realist  2  15:00, 25 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Made corrections. Cheers. — Realist  2  17:29, 26 August 2008 (UTC)

Date autoformatting in Acid2
Hi Giggy,

Please feel free to remove the date formatting from all the dates in the Acid2 article, excluding the ISO-format dates used in the references. I don't really like date autoformatting and would be happy to see it go. At the very least, could you point me towards the tool you mentioned that can delink the dates automatically? —Remember the dot (talk) 22:01, 26 August 2008 (UTC)

You're Awesome
I am totally on your side for wikikingofmiskawaka. This guy needs to stop posting child pornography. Thank you for your support 214.13.162.2 (talk) 12:32, 28 August 2008 (UTC)

Majorly's RfC
Hey there Giggy, Nice summary of issues for Majorly. I had been thinking about one as well, but hadn't decided one way or another... and was probably going to let it die because he disappeared. (Which is probably because of the RfC, and he is showing a sign of maturity.)--- Balloonman  PoppaBalloon 07:01, 28 August 2008 (UTC)

Greeting Giggy. Glad to make your acquaintance. Thanks very much for the reply to my question, I posted a brief follow-up at the same spot. Take good care, HG | Talk 07:54, 28 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks for your response there. Just wanted to let you know that I looked over some of the evidence and left some comments that are critical of your evidence. (Also brief not in the RFC/U Talk.) Nothing personal, I hope you understand, just did the best I could. Be well, HG | Talk 09:54, 28 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Noticed that. Will try and get a response up as soon as possible. —Giggy 09:57, 28 August 2008 (UTC)

Copyedit?
I noticed at WP:PRV that you do copyediting for rock bands. I've noticed you're GA reviews on other bands, and I was wondering, if it was okay with you, if you could do a copyedit on Say Anything (band). Let me know. Thanks. -- p b r ok s 1 3 talk? 17:09, 28 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks a bunch. Hopefully it will eventually get there! I appreciate it! -- p b r ok s 1 3 talk? 06:20, 29 August 2008 (UTC)

Hope you can help me
I've been improving this article WarCry (band) for a while and recently nominated it for Feat. Artc. but it failed, because of the way it ws referenced and some grammar errors, they guys suggested me to find a peer review volunteer to help me w/ the article, or at least tell me what's wrong and show me a way to fix it. I'm about to keep looking for volunteers, and might find another one. I see that you are one of the few people interested on Rock music that have volunteered to be a peer reviewer, so I ask for your help and would greatly appreciatte anything, thanks in advance (Please answer back on my talk page when you read this message) <font size="-1" style="color:red;"> Rockk3r     <font size="-4" color="Navy">Spit it Out!  04:21, 29 August 2008 (UTC)


 * Thank you very much I really appreciate that you at least try to help me ;) <font size="-1" style="color:red;"> Rockk3r    <font size="-4" color="Navy">Spit it Out!  05:01, 29 August 2008 (UTC)


 * No wrries, take your time, just needed to know if you were gonna help, thanks again. <font size="-1" style="color:red;"> Rockk3r    <font size="-4" color="Navy">Spit it Out!  02:35, 30 August 2008 (UTC)

An update
There has been an update to a summary you have endorsed at Requests for comment/Majorly. Jennavecia (Talk)  05:33, 29 August 2008 (UTC)
 * What did you think of my dare to Majorly... thought you might get a kick out of it.--- Balloonman  PoppaBalloon 16:35, 29 August 2008 (UTC)
 * 'tis an interesting proposition. —Giggy 06:51, 30 August 2008 (UTC)

Singapore Airlines mediation
Hi there, you may remember this Mediation Cabal/Cases/2008-02-22 Singapore Airlines from a few months ago. An RFM has been instigated at Requests for mediation/Singapore Airlines and opening comments are at Wikipedia talk:Requests for mediation/Singapore Airlines. Please note comments made at User_talk:Huaiwei, and my comments to the mediator at User_talk:Ryan_Postlethwaite. I would appreciate your input in this matter, as the "as I see fit" is not acceptable IMO. Cheers --Russavia Dialogue Stalk me 10:33, 29 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Bleh. I'm sorry to say I recall very little from that dispute and my commentary probably wouldn't be overly helpful =\ Good luck with it, though. Ryan's a good guy who'll hopefully be able to help you out. —Giggy 06:51, 30 August 2008 (UTC)

Whedonesque.com made GA!
Giggy,

Thanks for all your help. Between your advice and the constructive criticism of a couple of reviewers, this has ended up being a far more challenging--yet rewarding--process than I ever thought possible. It's made the article better than I could have ever hoped to on my own, either. Whew!

Now, I'm off to try and make some featured content. You know anyone who could serve as a reviewer/coach for a featured list? Jclemens (talk) 00:11, 30 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks for your suggestion, Gary King was quite receptive. I'm off and running on my next project, getting List of universities and colleges affiliated with the Churches of Christ to FL. Jclemens (talk) 19:39, 30 August 2008 (UTC)
 * You're welcome - good luck! —Giggy 02:23, 31 August 2008 (UTC)

Majorly's RFC
Giggy, thank you for summarizing those relevant diffs. Like many others, I am disappointed by Majorly's responses, especially when given constructive advice. It's time for you to press for his de-sysopping. Axl (talk) 09:45, 30 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Hopefully we don't have to go that far. Hopefully. But yes, it is a possibility =\ —Giggy 02:23, 31 August 2008 (UTC)

Re: Yo
Eh... I might. My faith in ArbCom last year wasn't exactly rewarded... :/ Der Wohltemperierte Fuchs ( talk  ) 15:03, 30 August 2008 (UTC)
 * But then again, I've got enough editing projects to keep my busy for a while... :P Der Wohltemperierte Fuchs ( talk  ) 18:21, 30 August 2008 (UTC)
 * I suppose (I would prolly just run on the promise to reduce drama, see how far that got me) :P I don't have much in the way of actual diffs to show, though I suppose I won't get opposed because I'm too new this time around... I guess we can wait and see :) Der Wohltemperierte Fuchs ( talk  ) 02:25, 31 August 2008 (UTC)

Reference for Canadian singles
Since you like music, mind helping me find Canadian music references? :) At List of Billy Talent awards I'm trying to find a reference for "The band has had seven singles peak at number one on the Canadian Singles Chart: "Try Honesty", "River Below", "Nothing to Lose", "Devil in a Midnight Mass", "Red Flag", "Fallen Leaves", and "Surrender"." but it is difficult. I'm more familiar with finding references for the American and British charts – would you happen to know a good site for Canadian charts? Gary <b style="color:#02b;">King</b> ( talk ) 05:53, 31 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Looks like allmusic only has charts for albums and not singles? Gary <b style="color:#02b;">King</b> ( talk ) 05:58, 31 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Oh well no biggie: here Gary <b style="color:#02b;">King</b> ( talk ) 06:02, 31 August 2008 (UTC)
 * By the way that allmusic link you gave me links me to Billy Talent's biography, not the single. Weird. Gary <b style="color:#02b;">King</b> ( talk ) 06:05, 31 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Weird indeed. Try this one. Oh, and ref 3 of the list needs a URL (it's currently "[at number Billy Talent awards]". allmusic. Retrieved on 2008-08-31."). —Giggy 06:07, 31 August 2008 (UTC)


 * That also goes to the bio. Gary <b style="color:#02b;">King</b> ( talk ) 06:09, 31 August 2008 (UTC)

RE:Renaming
Thankyou very much for the commons rename, all works fine and the account has been migrated to the unified login. Thanks again, regards. Woody (talk) 10:54, 31 August 2008 (UTC)

A special thankyou
Hi Giggy, I'd just like to send you a special thankyou for all the help and encouragement that you've given me over the previous months in regards to the whole RfA process. It truly means a lot to me that you've been so supportive (and so damn insistent) of me over such a length of time, despite my stubborness and refusal to accept a nomination.

If there's anything I can ever do for you, please let me know! Lankiveil (speak to me) 11:58, 31 August 2008 (UTC).

Peer review request
Hey mate, if you've got time could you review Slipknot Demo at Peer review/Slipknot Demo/archive1 and Welcome to Our Neighborhood at Peer review/Welcome to Our Neighborhood/archive1? The article failed its recent Good article nomination because it is considered short, but we believe that it is as comprehensive as we can get it. Feel free to post any suggestions on improving the article if you've got some. Cheers! Gary <b style="color:#02b;">King</b> ( talk ) 20:10, 29 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the reviews. I normally wouldn't bring short articles to GAN but these are for an FT so they need to be done. In my mind, these were on the fence for passing GAN; in the future, would you recommend I just bring them directly to PR to get them audited, without going to GAN? Gary <b style="color:#02b;">King</b> ( talk ) 14:48, 30 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Yeah, I'd say so. —Giggy 02:31, 31 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Would you consider What's It Gonna Be (Beyoncé Knowles song) to be in the same boat as the two above articles? Gary <b style="color:#02b;">King</b> ( talk ) 06:30, 31 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Yeah, I'd say so, considering the minimal release. Efe might have some info on it though. —Giggy 06:38, 31 August 2008 (UTC)


 * Yep already discussed this with him and another editor. Okay. Frankly, I don't even know what to do with the info that's already there – I'm looking for references but the most useful references are from online stores, which isn't all that great. Gary <b style="color:#02b;">King</b> ( talk ) 06:39, 31 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Sorry, I don't have the sources yet to help you bring this to GA. --Efe (talk) 08:23, 31 August 2008 (UTC)

&larr; Well anyways, Peer review/What's It Gonna Be (Beyoncé Knowles song)/archive1 if you've got the time :) Gary <b style="color:#02b;">King</b> ( talk ) 21:48, 31 August 2008 (UTC)