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Ramped Cargo Lighter citations
Dear Gilderien, Thanks for taking an interest. I'll look over this information again and see if I can organise a citation. Best regards, AmesJussellR (talk) 21:21, 1 October 2012 (UTC)
 * Thank you, if you could do that I would be very grateful.-- Gilderien Chat&#124;List of good deeds 13:21, 2 October 2012 (UTC)

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Yugoslav RCL
Dear Gilderien, Bad news, I'm afraid. I took the information from Okrety Wojenne Nr.4 and translated it through a Babelfish. This does not pass Wikimuster. I'll look some more, but information on the unglamorous RCL is accursedly thin. Best regards, AmesJussellR (talk) 22:35, 3 October 2012 (UTC) == Incident # 13 in Political Family of Bangladesh83.81.44.205 (talk) 11:48, 6 October 2012 (UTC) */ 83.81.44.205 (talk) 14:31, 6 October 2012 (UTC) ==

DNS 188.28.82.100 removed the Sher-e Bangla family & Sheikh Mujib family, the family of the founding fathers of Bangladesh from number 1&2 position. This is verifiable. Wikipedia should ban the DNS user 188.28.82.100 for doing it over 13 times. There is nothing constructive in removing the founding fathers of the nation from rank 1 and 2 and replacing it with a listing of a family of convicted war criminals such as the Chowdhury family. This is verifiable by Wikipedia and the responsible DNS user who is using a variety of fake DNS ids should be banned.
 * As far as I can tell, it is not an ordered list and so the presence of a convicted criminal at the top does not really matter. Otherwise if you still think they should be blocked contact an administrator here.-- Gilderien Chat&#124;List of good deeds 14:54, 6 October 2012 (UTC)

Fayetteville Generals
I redirected the article to Lakewood BlueClaws because the logos were removed from wikipedia. 98.110.44.88 (talk) 21:47, 6 October 2012 (UTC)
 * I'm sorry, but why does that mean the article should be redirected?-- Gilderien Chat&#124;List of good deeds 21:57, 6 October 2012 (UTC)

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Jimmy saville
You are wrong, Jimmy saville in now descrived extensively in the UK press by chief police officers as a sexual predator, please revert your changes and get your facts right  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.134.4.222 (talk) 21:51, 11 October 2012 (UTC)
 * As a UK resident myself I have followed the Jimmy Saville story extensively, but in the context of that article, it is not relevant to the meeting, nor was that "fact" known at the time of the meeting. Also, please use a civil tone, it struck me as slightly rude and while I might not mind if people address me like that some will be un-necessarily offended. Thanks.-- Gilderien Chat&#124;List of good deeds 21:56, 11 October 2012 (UTC)

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/jimmy-savile-sex-abuse-claims-1370398

reliable source, suck it up, your opinion counts for nothing this is widely verifiable in the UK press, savile was a paedo, all refes to him should include this — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.134.4.222 (talk) 22:01, 11 October 2012 (UTC)


 * That completely misses the point I was making - it is unnecessary to include the "fact he was a paedo" in every reference...should every mention of Stalin include the fact he killed millions of his own citizens? No, this is a reputable encyclopaedia and as such must be both accurate and concise. In addition, your tone seems now deliberately offensive so please refrain in future.-- Gilderien Chat&#124;List of good deeds 16:50, 12 October 2012 (UTC)

I think it is as valid to mention (if not more so) that he raped children, as it is to mention the fact that he is a charity fundraiser.., so if we strike paedo ( I am paraphrasing) we should remove charity fundraiser, there needs to be balance. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.134.4.222 (talk) 20:30, 12 October 2012 (UTC)


 * Yes but the programme which is being referred to was about his charity fundraising in part, and was produced before his paedophilia was common knowledge and so this is not relevant in the context of the programme.-- Gilderien Chat&#124;List of good deeds 21:14, 12 October 2012 (UTC)

Theroux actually touched upon it in the show http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GnvEdh3vAq8 watch 44 mins on.. for 2 minutes.. if you can be bothered, quite clearly lots of paedo stuff there — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.134.4.222 (talk) 11:42, 13 October 2012 (UTC)

I watched it. Ok, I concede the point and apologise for dragging this out like this.-- Gilderien Chat&#124;List of good deeds 18:44, 13 October 2012 (UTC)

Actually, no. He is presumed innocent until proven guilty. See WP:BLPCRIME and WP:BDP. Given that some of the victims have filed a lawsuit against the BBC, he should be referred to, if at all, as 'alleged sexual predator, pending the outcome in the courts.-- Gilderien Chat&#124;List of good deeds 20:10, 13 October 2012 (UTC)

Its a scandal no doubts, but the "kiddy fiddler" part of its seems exaggerated, I don't see the allegations as "paedophilia" in the sense of a sexual fascination with small children, just a sexual predator who liked young girls. But by law, anybody who has sexual relations with somebody under the age of consent is considered a paedophile. I know a guy who is pretty straightlaced, son of a police officer and he went to jail for four years and on the sex register for kissing and fondling a 15 year old girl when he was 21. His criminal record now implies he is a paedophile and some sort of sicko which couldn't be further from the truth. But with Savile 340 investigations.. ♦ Dr. Blofeld  20:53, 14 October 2012 (UTC)

Thanks....that sums up my thoughts pretty nicely. Though you do realise the IP was blocked for edit-warring? Oh, and yeah I'll have a look on Highbeam and Credo reference and a couple of books I own.-- Gilderien Chat&#124;List of good deeds 21:03, 14 October 2012 (UTC)

Church
You might find more for All Saints Church, Lydd.♦ Dr. Blofeld  20:51, 14 October 2012 (UTC)

Google web I think had some sites which have the most info..♦ Dr. Blofeld  21:36, 14 October 2012 (UTC)

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A Change Is Gonna Come (Grey's Anatomy) DYK Nomination
Hey! I just wanted to let you know that the issue you mentioned has been taken care of. Thank you for your very prompt answer to the DYK. Cheers! :) Jonathan Harold Koszeghi (talk) 15:47, 15 October 2012 (UTC)

GA inclusion in DYK proposal
Hi Gilderin, I have been following your proposal at DYK, and I notice that the discussion has been going on for more than a week now. I do not know what the customary timeline for these discussions are, but I was wondering at which point the decision over the matter will be made. Thanks. -- Tea with toast  (話)  02:51, 16 October 2012 (UTC)
 * I don't know either, I'm afraid, nor who would close it....presumably an uninvolved admin. Obviously, I have a COI here, but it seems to me to be about 2/3 support for the proposal, with longer reasons for supporting it than opposing it, but I do not know if this is enough to decide it.-- Gilderien Chat&#124;List of good deeds 09:55, 16 October 2012 (UTC)

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Re:DYK
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 * Cool - I am sorry looking at this template - I probably shouldn't have created this and the template here is wrong and undue - so sorry for that anyways. - You  really  can  19:16, 24 October 2012 (UTC)
 * Hey, it's fine, I realise Twinkle isn't 100% specific about these sort of things.-- Gilderien Chat&#124;List of good deeds 19:24, 24 October 2012 (UTC)

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