User talk:Gilderien/Archive 22

Caracas Cathedral
Check the char again. I removed some excessive text on the bull custom, but might have to restore a bit if it's too short now.♦ Dr. ☠ Blofeld

Emailed.♦ Dr. ☠ Blofeld  16:36, 13 May 2013 (UTC)

Replied.-- Gilderien Chat&#124;List of good deeds 17:18, 13 May 2013 (UTC)

DYK for Selworthy Beacon
Casliber (talk · contribs) 16:27, 13 May 2013 (UTC)

DYK for Cathedral of Our Lady of the Assumption, Mata-Utu
Casliber (talk · contribs) 16:35, 13 May 2013 (UTC)

WikiProject Yorkshire Newsletter - May 2013
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DYK for Ear Mountain
Casliber (talk · contribs) 00:39, 15 May 2013 (UTC)

DYK for Fishing in Vanuatu
Casliber (talk · contribs) 00:40, 15 May 2013 (UTC)

Caracas Cathedral
Please see the text I have added on the Bulls of the Holy Crusade. I am not very conversant with the this festival. You may change it as necessary. The article still needs another 3000 ch to make it 5x. You may also like to check the present size of the article. Please see if you can add. Cheers-- Nvvchar . 13:59, 11 May 2013 (UTC)
 * Ok, I have concert now but I'll see what I can do when I get back.-- Gilderien Chat&#124;List of good deeds 14:52, 11 May 2013 (UTC)


 * Please see the DYK review. You probably can add some more text from the vast literature on churches.-- Nvvchar . 13:55, 16 May 2013 (UTC)


 * I added some on the bulls which seems (?) specific to this cathedral.-- Gilderien Chat&#124;List of good deeds 14:06, 16 May 2013 (UTC)

PSR J0348+0432
Done. I've added more references.Earthandmoon (talk) 06:47, 13 May 2013 (UTC)
 * Thanks for your star. :) Earthandmoon (talk) 02:21, 16 May 2013 (UTC)

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DYK for Dorob National Park
Casliber (talk · contribs) 07:12, 16 May 2013 (UTC)

25 DYK Creation and Expansion Medal

 * Congrats! --Tito Dutta (contact) 08:36, 16 May 2013 (UTC
 * Thank you :) Onwards and upwards .... -- Gilderien Chat&#124;List of good deeds 10:49, 16 May 2013 (UTC)

GA DYKs
When you call it "Did you know?" the basic criteria for inclusion of any hook in it should be that people should really not know about it. Although that's not really possible, but that's how it should be. I see the rule of new/5x as a way to check that this does happen. When the article is new, Wikipedia obviously didn't have that hook anywhere and that's what made it a DYK. For 5x also its quite possible. However one must actually check if the hook statement was already present in the article before expansion or not. Anyways.... moving to your proposal of GAs being featured in DYK, i see that this criteria would be least possible to meet. A GA usually has stayed for long on WP, has gone through various eyes and all info in it is known to many people. Now there is no way one can find if the hook is really DYK or not. But one possible way is to ask for multiple opinions. That way, something thats really interesting will be featured. Of course there are lotsa problems here. If we open up for vote, should we simply count them? Then there will be lobbying. Should we weigh in discussions? Then there will be too much of discussion over a simple issue. Who should vote? Should it be open for all? Or should a committee be formed like directors of other featured projects? Many things... What say you? §§ Dharmadhyaksha §§ {T/C} 08:06, 16 May 2013 (UTC)
 * Well, personally, I think it would be more interesting if people saw a little known fact on a well-known topic than a fact on a topic nobody has ever heard of. The incentive there will thus be that the nominator will get more page views, and thus more of a "reward", if they pick a truly DYK fact. GAs being included would allow more of this, since it is really hard to get a 5xs expansion on a well-known topic as WP already covers them quite well, but getting a GA would certainly be possible, and this would also encourage more work on our core topics, which has to be good for the encyclopaedia and for our readers. I don't think any sort of directors or whatever would be necessary; we seem to get along fine just having nominators and reviewers suggesting hooks as it is on DYK.-- Gilderien Chat&#124;List of good deeds 10:47, 16 May 2013 (UTC)
 * When a new article is created for DYK's purpose, the article is mostly created just because something very interesting is available. In case of GAs, the articles will have been here after passing general notability for quite long. So in such articles, bland DYKs like "X won 5 Grammies and 2 Oscars" would also come up. Being GA and being a well known subject to many, the award count isn't really an interesting fact. But as everything checks out, the hook would be promoted. In ideal situation it would not have been a problem if reviewers were rejecting hooks based on it's lack of hookyness. But i hardly see that happening. From past few days i have been strolling at WP:TDYK and rejecting many such mediocre hooks. The chances of getting mediocre hooks would increase when well versed subjects would keep coming through GA criteria. §§ Dharmadhyaksha §§ {T/C} 11:07, 16 May 2013 (UTC)
 * I haven't very often seen articles rejected for lack of "hookyness", but when I'm reviewing an article and I see something more interesting, I will propose that it be used as an alternate hook, and I know that other reviewers do the same. Again, a well-written GA will have lots more material to garner an interesting fact, and if a hook is bland then it will get put to the bottom of DYK and no-one will look at it, something no article writer would want. There has been much complaint about the standards of hooks already coming through DYK, and this would have to improve it. Furthermore, the average quality of an article clicked through would be better, and this would surely be more interesting to the reader.-- Gilderien Chat&#124;List of good deeds 11:24, 16 May 2013 (UTC)
 * Of course! I don't object GAs being featured in DYKs. I am just afraid that most readers will have known the fact that we state under "Did you know". §§ Dharmadhyaksha §§ {T/C} 11:04, 17 May 2013 (UTC)

DYK for Mining in North Korea
The DYK project (nominate) 15:36, 16 May 2013 (UTC)

June 2013
I took another look and fixed a typo, but it looks ok now. I added a church to the July issue and will look at the next few months for typos etc. within the next 2-3 days. So once you send out the promo/announcement tomorrow, just let me know below here. Thanks. History2007 (talk) 12:21, 16 May 2013 (UTC)


 * Today, a user who edits articles in the project said never heard of it before. So it has had stealth marketing, I guess. So I updated the Christianity project page and added a sentence about it, the icon, etc. History2007 (talk) 15:39, 17 May 2013 (UTC)


 * I noticed that they all went out. Thanks for all your help. And best wishes for your work on the newsletter. I think you will do great. History2007 (talk) 21:47, 17 May 2013 (UTC)
 * No problem, it's been a pleasure working with you.-- Gilderien Chat&#124;List of good deeds 21:50, 17 May 2013 (UTC)


 * Thanks. By the way, before signing off, I wondered if you have the next 14 month pages watch listed in case some IP makes changes that don't get noticed. Anyway, take care. History2007 (talk) 18:57, 18 May 2013 (UTC)
 * I didn't, but I do now. Thanks for reminding me.-- Gilderien Chat&#124;List of good deeds 18:59, 18 May 2013 (UTC)

St Kilda field mouse

 * Thank you very much, it was a pleasure. There's a first time for everything :) -- Gilderien Chat&#124;List of good deeds 17:27, 18 May 2013 (UTC)

Mail call!
Technical 13 (talk) 23:07, 20 May 2013 (UTC)

DYK for Mount Elbert
 Harrias  talk 00:21, 21 May 2013 (UTC)