User talk:Gilgerard

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Please do not add or change content, as you did at List of people from East St. Louis, Illinois, without citing a reliable source. Please review the guidelines at Citing sources and take this opportunity to add references to the article. Johnnie Johnson is definitely notable, but the inclusion criteria for the list are that he must have been born there or lived there. Johnnie Johnson (musician) says that he was not born there. He did work there, but that is not sufficient. It is not clear that he lived or died in East St. Louis. You will need to provide reliable sources to show this (see WP:RS). And please, if you are re-adding this material add it properly. This is formatted as a table so don't add your new entry as prose outside of the table. Meters (talk) 20:11, 4 September 2017 (UTC)

Please stop adding unsourced content, as you did to List of people from East St. Louis, Illinois. This contravenes Wikipedia's policy on verifiability. If you continue to do so, you may be blocked from editing Wikipedia. If you keep doing this you will end up blocked. You need to provide a reliable, verifiable source that shows the person was born or lived there. Telling us he did is not sufficient. Telling us that an unlinked Wikipedia article supports it is not sufficient. Telling us that when the Wikipedia article doesn't support the claim and is completely unsourced is either incompetence or vandalism. Meters (talk) 20:48, 4 September 2017 (UTC)
 * And telling us that an unspecified bio support sit is no help either. Please add the references to the source and link the applicable Wikipedia article. By the way, Wikipedia itself is not a reliable source. If a Wikipedia article claims something but it is not supported by a reliable source, it is never going to be acceptable to repeat that claim. Meters (talk) 20:52, 4 September 2017 (UTC)

You may be blocked from editing without further warning the next time you disrupt Wikipedia, as you did at List of people from East St. Louis, Illinois. That completely wrecked the table, you did n't reference it properly, and you didn't link the article. I'll try to fix it, but stop doing this. Meters (talk) 21:16, 4 September 2017 (UTC)

September 2017
Hello. Your recent edit appears to have added the name of a non-notable entity to a list that normally includes only notable entries. In general, a person or organization added to a list should have a pre-existing article before being added to most lists. If you wish to create such an article, please first confirm that the subject qualifies for a separate, stand-alone article according to Wikipedia's notability guideline. Thank you. John from Idegon (talk) 21:25, 4 September 2017 (UTC)


 * It's obvious that you are trying to share what you learned writing your book. That's good. However, you cannot use your book as a source for your additions. I could use your book as a source but you cannot. Doing so violates our prohibition on original research. You can use the sources you used for your book, assuming they meet our standards for reliability. Please be advised that we have specific requirements for who can be listed on lists of people. See my templated message above. Also, I dislike having advanced mark-up on lists such as the one you're adding to, for the reason that new editors like yourself lack the skills to manipulate it and it tends to exclude them from just the type article new users are most likely to edit. John from Idegon (talk) 21:36, 4 September 2017 (UTC)
 * I agree with the markup point. It took me a minute to figure out how the articles were linked. Gilgerard, you actually have to read the wikipedia article to see if it explicitly states that that the person was born or lived in East St Louis. If it does not, or the claim is not reliably sourced you must provide a reliable source in the list. And please stop inserting your text into the table definitions. Once is a simple mistake, but by the third time this is just disruptive. There is no way to simply type your info into the existing table. You can copy and paste an existing entry and then rewrite it to create a new entry, or write the new entry from scratch with all of the table formatting included. Meters (talk) 21:46, 4 September 2017 (UTC)