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Proposed deletion of Thornwood, Washington


The article Thornwood, Washington has been proposed for deletion&#32;because of the following concern: "Non-notable location. The only significant coverage I could find was this 1905 column talking about a man who ran a cranberry farm at the 'village' of Thornwood: . Otherwise only trivial mentions found.  This place existed, but without any real information about it, it's not worth an article (post office does not establish notability).  Fails WP:GEOLAND.  Satellite view today shows a rural area with a few farms, though there is a Thornwood Place and an A. Birss Road, named for the proprietor of the cranberry farm."

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Proposed deletion of Urban, Washington


The article Urban, Washington has been proposed for deletion&#32;because of the following concern: "Reference 3 plainly states this was a post office, not a 'community'. Nothing at the site today. Without further information this is a failure of WP:GNG and WP:GEOLAND; post offices are not notable."

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Proposed deletion of Cora, Washington


The article Cora, Washington has been proposed for deletion&#32;because of the following concern: "No mention of the place in the local papers during the time it should exist (The Daily Chronicle, The Chehalis Bee-Nugget, The Ledger). The third source (forte) is just a list of post offices, and doesn't provide proof of population center since many postoffices were in rural areas, and had names that weren't always the same as the place. GNIS (source 1) is unreliable for classification of towns. The second source provides 3 refs for this 'town' . Those sources don't mention a town of Cora, but a post office called Cora.' Further research shows that the Cora post office serviced the Upper Big Bottom area of Lewis county  No further sources found."

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My sympathies
Hey Gilliam!

I would've blanked my talk page, too. Not sure it would matter, but I want to let you know I appreciate all the small community articles you started and how important your work has been in my interest of SW Washington state, where rural towns and communities (like any other similar location in the U.S.) are often overlooked, derided, and therefore forgotten. Opposite of knowledge...sometimes because of a current satellite photo!

With nearly 500k edits to your name, I don't think this would be a nail in the ol' wooden sleep box for you, but please do stick around and continue your efforts. Your work matters.

My thanks,

Shortiefourten (talk) 19:24, 2 May 2024 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of Zindel, Washington


The article Zindel, Washington has been proposed for deletion&#32;because of the following concern: "The only source that says populated place is GNIS, which is considered an unreliable source for classification by the WP community. The forte source (2) is a list of post offices. It is well established at AFD that the existence of a post office during this time is not proof of a Town. The third source listed on the article is Meany who wrote that Zindel was a post office in Asotin county. Another place names source doesn't list Zindel. A search of the local papers finds nothing. Google search finds Wikipedia 'repeaters', and a couple of further similar sources to Meany that write it's a post office."

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Nomination of Cora, Washington for deletion
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Proposed deletion of Cougar Gulch


The article Cougar Gulch has been proposed for deletion&#32;because of the following concern: "Notability not established with substantive sources, fails WP:NGEO"

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Proposed deletion of Forest, Washington


The article Forest, Washington has been proposed for deletion&#32;because of the following concern: "Sources 1,3 (GNIS and Forte) are useless The remaining sources (Meany, Jtenlen, and Election) on inspection reveal nothing but a post office that several unreliable sources including the author of this article have fallaciously assumed that all post offices are towns. Which isn't true. This was a grange district and later an election precinct. People would travel to the post office to get their mail, and so they would say they are from there because others need to know where to address their mail."

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Nomination of Forest, Washington for deletion
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Nomination of Ceres, Washington for deletion
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Proposed deletion of Swofford, Washington


The article Swofford, Washington has been proposed for deletion&#32;because of the following concern: '''Meany's (source 3) definition of places is less stringent than Wikipedia's definition, which is legally recognized places. Meany wrote that Swofford (the man) set up a post office in the Swofford valley and later moved it to Mossy Rock. Places don't move, but post offices do (sometimes in shoe boxes). Washington State place names published in 1971 Doesn't list swofford as a place. A rather unreliable source, but commonly referenced nonetheless lists this place, but all of the reliable sources used for their mention call it "Swofford Valley".

Reading newspapers from the area reveals that the post office served the Swofford valley, and the people who lived in the valley used it's name to define where they lived. The Centralia Daily Chronicle in 1976 (July 1, 1976 Page 31) explains that the valley had a rural farming community with a post office and a drug store. The reality is that these were probably not separate buildings, and it would not be all that unusual for this to actually be Swofford's residence as well. It is not a legally recognized place. Furthermore, it's full name is "Swofford Valley". The confusion arises because post offices in the 1800's could only have one word names. If it can be established this Valley is notable, I'm okay with moving it to Swofford Valley, Washington, or similar.'''

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Proposed deletion of Hanson Ferry, Washington


The article Hanson Ferry, Washington has been proposed for deletion&#32;because of the following concern: "This was never anything but the site of a post office. Refer to the top of page 698."

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Proposed deletion of Jerry, Washington


The article Jerry, Washington has been proposed for deletion&#32;because of the following concern: "The Meany source (3,5) has looser standards for the definition of towns than Wikipedia does. This place is not listed in the 1971 book Washington State Place Names . Or, An illustrated history of southeastern Washington, including Walla Walla, Columbia, Garfield and Asotin counties, Washington, 1906. .  Washington: A Guide to the Evergreen State Says Jerry is a cluster of nondescript buildings.  pg357. The description goes to describe what I assume is just Jerry's Ranch."

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Nomination of Swofford, Washington for deletion
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Proposed deletion of Mora, Washington


The article Mora, Washington has been proposed for deletion&#32;because of the following concern: '''There is nothing at the site in google maps, aside from Mora road. But since this is a post office it would have been a stop along a "road" that would be the postal route the mail carrier travelled on. The simplest answer for its existence is that it was the road to the post office.The third source on this article states this is just a post office pg 172. Washington State place names doesn't list it separately and is just a repeat of Meany in source 3 above [page 92]. The other sources on the article are not useful for verification a town existed. It's only mentioned twice in passing with no indication it wasn't just a post office in the 2003 history book about the county Clallam. The post office is likely the trading post mentioned in that book. It's worth noting here that trading posts usually were not in populated areas, but at strategic places along well traveled trade routes. So this is actually and indicator this is just a post office. In fact, this source unequivocally makes it clear this was a trading post, it must have also housed the post office, before it moved. It appears on this 1970 map but when compared with google maps (at similar scale) you can see that there couldn't be any streets there, or anything. And Finally, we have this a description of the "town". . As you can see it's just a Guy running a hotel trading post in the woods. Some passing mentions that don't contradict the possibility it's a post office. '''

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Proposed deletion of Cooper Point (Thurston County, Washington)


The article Cooper Point (Thurston County, Washington) has been proposed for deletion&#32;because of the following concern: "Nonnotable geographic feature"

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Proposed deletion of Baird Cove


The article Baird Cove has been proposed for deletion&#32;because of the following concern: "Nonnotable Geographic feature"

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