User talk:Gingerdad

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Bay search and rescue
Hello ,

It seems to me that an article you worked on, Bay search and rescue, may be copied from http://www.baysearchandrescue.org.uk/history/. It's entirely possible that I made a mistake, but I wanted to let you know because Wikipedia is strict about copying from other sites.

It's important that you edit the article and rewrite it in your own words, unless you're absolutely certain nothing in it is copied. If you're not sure how to fix the problem or have any questions, there are people at the help desk who are happy to assist you.

Thank you for helping build a free encyclopedia! MadmanBot (talk) 14:13, 30 September 2012 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Bay search and rescue


A tag has been placed on Bay search and rescue requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section G12 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the article or image appears to be a clear copyright infringement. For legal reasons, we cannot accept copyrighted text or images borrowed from other web sites or printed material, and as a consequence, your addition will most likely be deleted. You may use external websites as a source of information, but not as a source of sentences. This part is crucial: say it in your own words. Wikipedia takes copyright violations very seriously and persistent violators will be blocked from editing.

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Status and Advice
As reviewing administrator, I deleted the article, not just for copyvio but because it was entirely promotional.

A Wikipedia article needs to be written like an encyclopedia article, not a press release--don't praise the organization or person, say plainly what they do. Remember not to copy from a web site, even your own --   even if you own the copyright and are willing to give us permission according to WP:DCM, the tone will not be encyclopedic and the material will not be suitable, as was the case here. (Thus, there is no purpose in giving permission; it will be necessary to rewrite.)

Include only material that would be of interest to a general reader coming across the mention of the group and wanting the sort of information that would be found in an encyclopedia. Remember that Wikipedia requires all information to be sourced by references providing substantial coverage from 3rd party independent published reliable sources, print or online, but not blogs or press releases, or material derived from press releases. It is possible that, unlike most rescue squads, your organization is notable (the criteria are at WP:ORG) but this has to be shown with references. The references must be exact, so other people can find them--seeWP:REF for the technique.

As a general rule, a suitable page will be best written by someone without Conflict of Interest; it's not impossible to do it properly with a conflict of interest or as a paid press agent, but it's relatively more difficult: you are automatically thinking in terms of what the subject wishes to communicate to the public, but an uninvolved person will think in terms of what the public might wish to know. And keep in mind that the goal of an encyclopedia is to say things in a concise manner, which is not the style of  press releases or  web sites, which are usually more expansive. The right length for the article would be about half of what you submitted.

If you think you can do it right according to our guidelines, do so, but expect the article to be carefully checked for objectivity. and remember that if your organization is notable, other people will know it, and write the article. That you have to write it yourself tends to show just the opposite.

For further information see our FAQ about business, organizations, and articles like this and also WP:FIRST.  DGG ( talk ) 15:11, 30 September 2012 (UTC)