User talk:Ginkgo100/Archive08

Thanks
Hey thanks for reverting the vandalism on my page. Semi protection on my user page would be helpful in case he comes back. Thanks again.--QB1dog 02:25, 1 July 2007 (UTC)
 * No problem. I'll do it right now. Cheers! --Ginkgo100talk 02:26, 1 July 2007 (UTC)

Clark Adams
What exacly do I need to do with the Clark Adams page? He was president of Internet Infidels and co-founder of Secular Coalition for America. That should be enough I believe, but if not, please tell me what I should do to keep the article. I created this article because I was looking for information about Adams myself. My first choice was to look for it at Wikipedia, but I didn't find an article there so I googled some and found information which I added. What more do I need to add, how, where and why? /Benzocaine 17:33, 1 July 2007 (UTC)
 * I think what is really missing is references. Thousands of articles about truly mundane people ("my girlfriend so-and-so is the best") are created on Wikipedia, and what they all have in common is that there is nothing published about them. So when editors see a biography with no references, they are automatically suspicious. Check out our info on the verifiability policy and reliable sources, then add the citations to the bottom of the article. --Ginkgo100talk 17:38, 1 July 2007 (UTC)
 * This article is not akin to "My girlfriend so-and-so is the greatest". I have no relation whatsoever to Clark Adams. I have never met or written to the man in question. Could you please clarify what I need to do. Should I add references to the article? I don't want to add things that are not important so exactly what kind of references are you referring to? /Benzocaine 17:48, 1 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Google for "clark adams" atheism and you get 15 000+ hits. Is that enough? /Benzocaine 17:52, 1 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Make sure you read these two pages: WP:V and WP:RS. Also read WP:BIO, which gives you information on what is generally accepted as notability (importance of the subject) for biographies. Then add references to the article to create a bibliography. It doesn't have to be long (one or two sources might be enough), but those sources should support everything the article says. At least, that is the ideal we strive for. For example, here is a short article I created that shows one way to list references. I do not edit biography articles very often, but you can get more help from the good folks at WikiProject Biography.
 * I know this all seems like a lot. My point with the "girlfriend" comment was not to say that Adams was on par with those articles; it was to show why some editors overreact to all biography articles, even the good ones. Now that your article is old enough not to show up on the list of new pages, it is probably much safer from such overreactions. This is a pretty rough introduction to Wikipedia for you, and I hope you are not discouraged from further editing; we always need more dedicated contributors. Cheers! --Ginkgo100talk 00:20, 2 July 2007 (UTC)
 * I've been writing pretty much on the Swedish Wikipedia but moved to the English one because it seemed more tolerant. The reactions to my biographical article suggests otherwise but I hope I will be proved wrong on that point in my future contributions. /Benzocaine 18:48, 24 July 2007 (UTC)
 * If I'm not mistaken, English Wikipedia is the biggest and fastest-growing of the Wikipedias. A high number of terrible articles are created every day, so new articles end up running a gauntlet here. I don't know how its tolerance compares to other language Wikipedias though. --Ginkgo100talk 01:30, 25 July 2007 (UTC)

Vishwabrahmin
I've recreated Vishwabrahmin a community among South India. Kindly talk before deleting that again. You can kindly check bharatmatrimony.com to check the existance of the community in India.BalanceRestored 05:33, 2 July 2007 (UTC)

Also check google.com results. http://www.google.com/search?q=Vishwabrahmin&sourceid=navclient-ff&ie=UTF-8&rls=GGGL,GGGL:2006-32,GGGL:en
 * Now that there is enough context to figure out what the article is about, I feel it should not be speedily deleted. However, it has no sources or verification (the matrimony site is not a very reliable source). I asked for help at WikiProject India. --Ginkgo100talk 00:12, 3 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Thanks .. I am trying to collect more details towards this subject. These are some of the communities who have lot of contradictory views about the Indian History.. It will be exiting to see more editors quoting their views about this subject. I can assure you that this community which is currently a minority in India has lot to know about the Vedas and Indian Caste System. Thanks for considering to keep the text. BalanceRestored 12:35, 3 July 2007 (UTC)
 * I have collected enough citations towards the Gotra that had confused you. If you ok with those, We can add the Gotras back to the main article. I heartily thank you for taking interest in the text BalanceRestored 06:03, 4 July 2007 (UTC)

 Hello Ginkgo100, Ginkgo100 has smiled at you! Smiles promote WikiLove and hopefully this one has made your day better. Spread the WikiLove by smiling at someone else, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past or a good friend. Go on, smile! Cheers, and happy editing! Smile at others by adding {{subst:Smile}} to their talk page with a friendly message.

excuse me
the article about janey jolly was hardly innapropriate. it was merely informative and gave no graphic details of the video. in fact, i have never seen the video, so stop deleting my posts. i bet you deleted my vo sot vo page too.

Tenney1337 02:42, 5 July 2007 (UTC)


 * Janey jolly could be considered an attack page. This sort of page is absolutely appropriate to Wikipedia. I was the third person to delete Vo Sot Vo; all three times it was deleted because it does not contain information as to why it is notable. Please do not create it again without addressing this issue. Thank you. --Ginkgo100talk 02:46, 5 July 2007 (UTC)

alright i understand about the janey jolly page. but the vo sot vo page is about a really great band around my area that has been influencing the minds of me and my friends, as well as others around the area. and they have been looked at by record labels.Tenney1337 02:52, 5 July 2007 (UTC)


 * If you feel the page should be restored, you may make a request at Deletion Review. --Ginkgo100talk 02:54, 5 July 2007 (UTC)

World War IV
Why keep the intermikies if there is no article? Casavette 23:54, 5 July 2007 (UTC)
 * By clicking on the interwiki, a user from a linked Wikipedia in another language would be redirected. However, it makes more sense to move the interwikis to the redirect destination. Either should be fine; I jumped the gun in reverting you. --Ginkgo100talk 23:58, 5 July 2007 (UTC)

hello may i talk to you
i would just like to inquire why you are not letting me have freedom of speach. Not that I am mad yet but I would appreciate it if in the future i could have freedom of speech. If you have a problem with what I am saying please inform me directly and I will change it. I am guessing that your name is Dylan? Am i right? thankyou for your coopoertaion —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Sassyisabused (talk • contribs).
 * No, my name isn't Dylan (or Grace). And there is not "freedom of speech" on Wikipedia for vandalism. --Ginkgo100talk 00:03, 6 July 2007 (UTC)

Avalara Deletion
Please explain why you deleted the Avalara addition and how it is any different than the following wikipedia searches:

Microsoft Dynamics AX Microsoft Dynamics GP Accpac

Also, can I still get acess to what I posted and what was deleted? I spent a better part of my day writing it and would like to reference it.

Thank you. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by AvaGuru (talk • contribs).


 * I would be happy to e-mail the contents to you, but you will have to go to "my preferences" and enable e-mail first. When you do this, nobody can actually find out your e-mail address, but you will have the e-mail address of anyone who e-mails you. --Ginkgo100talk 00:32, 8 July 2007 (UTC)

Gold Quest
Hi, I d like to know why this article is not suitable? Gold Quest Arun J D&#39;Souza 07:29, 13 July 2007 (UTC)
 * I deleted it because it did not mention a reason why Gold Quest is notable, significant, or important. You might read WP:CORP, which gives guidelines for creating articles on companies, and write an article on Qi Limited, with a Gold Quest section. However, before making statements about pyramid schemes, please carefully read our three core content policies, which cover original research, neutral point of view, and verifiability. --Ginkgo100talk 22:16, 14 July 2007 (UTC)

Comprehensive Metabolic Panel
Thanks for editing CMP. Nice job! Kencf 21:26, 21 July 2007 (UTC)
 * You are welcome! --Ginkgo100talk 16:09, 22 July 2007 (UTC)

2the Max
Please undelete the 2the Max article. According to notability guideline, it should notify the major contributors and relative projects before proceeding any deletion. But there is none. It is deleted so fast that I have no chance to improve the article. &mdash; HenryLi (Talk) 04:02, 26 July 2007 (UTC)

-- Dear administrator,

Please restore the article 2the Max you have deleted. The article should not be deleted according WP:NOT. I am looking forward to your reply.

&mdash; HenryLi (Talk) 16:24, 26 July 2007 (UTC)


 * Henry, speedy deletes can be undeleted by any administrator. I happen to know that this admin is at work and won't be able to undelete this article for at least 8 hours. As you've posted here twice in a short period of time I'm guessing that you want this to be done before this admin gets to a computer.  In that case, you might want to contact WP:ANI and ask somebody there to undelete it for you.  But do not be surprised if the article is immediately nominated for deletion (Such is the case when an article is speedly deleted and then contested.)  It will be up to you to add sufficeint support that the article meets verifiability and notability criteria.Balloonman 16:29, 26 July 2007 (UTC)


 * The proper forum for undeletions is actually Deletion Review, not ANI. They probably would have sent HenryLi to me first as a courtesy. Please note that the article was deleted according to the speedy deletion policy, under criterion Article#7, in that it made no claim at all to notability. Deletion discussions are usually reserved for cases where there is a claim to notability that is disputed. However, I restored the page for now to allow a chance to make a claim to notability. Cheers! --Ginkgo100talk 02:09, 27 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Were you aware that a discussion on this had already started on deletion review? Your comments might be useful there. DES (talk) 04:58, 27 July 2007 (UTC)
 * No, I was not aware; thank you for letting me know. I have commented there. --Ginkgo100talk 20:47, 28 July 2007 (UTC)

South Carolina Educational Television
I didn't notice that both users had (very obviously) violated the 3 revert rule - I'll warn both of them about it. You're right, it wasn't really vandalism, but the IP was making bad faith edits (after all what good faith rationale can you have for reverting 7 times with a sockpuppet IP?) and that's the main reason I blocked it. ugen64 03:49, 29 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Well, like I said, I wasn't really questioning the block itself. Cheers! --Ginkgo100talk 03:50, 29 July 2007 (UTC)

BLP applies to all articles
BLP applies to biographical information about living people inserted in 'any' article, not just a biographical article. Blueboy96 04:14, 29 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Obviously. Of course, SCETV is not a living person. However, on re-reading the deleted text, I did just see that the person SCETV is allegedly in a dispute with appears to be a living person, so your argument that it was a BLP violation may apply after all (my mistake). This is not the same as vandalism, however, and revert-warring is not an effective way to handle the situation. --Ginkgo100talk 04:23, 29 July 2007 (UTC)

Rise of the Footsoldier
This was a one-sentence article -- why not just repost it with some content? NawlinWiki 16:50, 29 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the response. I'll restore it and add content from IMDb. --Ginkgo100talk 17:04, 29 July 2007 (UTC)

Guyz Nite Source
Hey Ginkgo 100! I was looking for Guyz Nite on Wikipedia today and I saw that the article had been deleted. When I looked at the delete log, it seemed like the band was eliglible to be listed, but there was no clear, official source to validate their connection with Live Free or Die Hard. I looked on the official film website http://www.livefreeordiehard.com/index_site.html and viewed the TV spots. The first spot has the Guyz Nite song in it. I think you've already seen the NY Times article about them, but I can tell that the connection is for real.

I'm somewhat new to Wikipedia, so I wasn't sure if the best way to get the article back up was to write it myself, contact you, or contact the original poster. Anyway, you seemed like the best way to start. I just wanted to make sure you have this information!

Thanks,

FreddyGeo
 * Guyz Nite had an article, but after a discussion, it was agreed (as per our deletion policy) to delete the article. You can read the discussion here. If you read this and believe you can write an article that addresses the original reasons for the deletion, you may re-create it. However, before doing this, I strongly recommend you read the following Wikipedia pages: verifiability policy, guideline on reliable sources, and guideline on notability for music groups. Cheers! --Ginkgo100talk 01:48, 31 July 2007 (UTC)

beating the DYK
Congrats... your fetal movement article WILL be in the next update!!!! (unless somebody removes it.)Balloonman 21:58, 2 August 2007 (UTC)

Medical task forces
Sorry, I'm the wrong person to ask about task forces. Maybe SandyGeorgia?

Thanks for your message
I went ahead and signed up. Cheers.Ferrylodge 00:54, 18 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Great! I hope we can get more people signed up at WikiProject_Council/Proposals. --Ginkgo100talk 16:12, 18 August 2007 (UTC)

How to get the box of current women heads of state into the English woman article
I looked at the French site for woman & it has a box of current women heads of state. I tried to cut and paste it into the English article, but in the edit box it appears in template form, with Two{'s atthefront and Two}'s attheend of a template.

Anyway, I have the fuller query at the Talk Page of the Woman article. Dogru144 22:55, 19 August 2007 (UTC)


 * I am not sure exactly what you are asking for help with, but if you want the text of the French template, it is here. You can copy this and paste it into a new template here on English Wikipedia. Be sure to give credit in your edit summary to the source in order to comply with the GFDL. Obviously, it will need translating into English before you use it in any articles. --Ginkgo100talk 02:39, 20 August 2007 (UTC)

Fear of children and childbirth
There is a correlating evidence in some literature that suggests that the fear of children affects the public's perceptions of pregnancy rights, particularly in the U.S. A book called Somebody Else's Children: The Courts, the Kids, and the Struggle to Save America's Troubled Families by John Hubner and Jill Wolfson discusses this; however, I don't feel their case is supported enough to actually cite them in your article. As an alternative I added the see also section. Accordingly, I also thought there is a logical connection between the fear of childbirth and any discussion of pregnancy rights. – Freechild ( ¡!¡!¡!¡ ) 22:04, 20 August 2007 (UTC)
 * I'm moving these comments to the talk page. Thanks for your response! --Ginkgo100talk 22:07, 20 August 2007 (UTC)

Re:Admin Coaching
I see you are at the top of the list of requests for admin coaching. I'm an admin who ready to start coaching someone. Would you like to be my coachee? --Ginkgo100talk 03:19, 23 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Sure! Would love to! themcman1  talk 12:02, 23 August 2007 (UTC)

Valid stub?
What do you mean by "this is a valid stub" (as shown here: )?--Sunny910910 (talk 21:58, 24 August 2007 (UTC)
 * I mean that it has enough context to qualify as a very short article. Although there is only one sentence in the text, there is also an infobox providing additional information. --Ginkgo100talk 22:02, 24 August 2007 (UTC)
 * See WP:STUB for more information on stubs. --Ginkgo100talk 22:03, 24 August 2007 (UTC)

I see...thanks for clarifying the issue.--Sunny910910 (talk 22:05, 24 August 2007 (UTC)

From Johgeek
You recently sent me a mesage. Thanks for the advice! I will take it into acount.Johgeek 19:54, 27 August 2007 (UTC)
 * You're welcome! --Ginkgo100talk 02:36, 28 August 2007 (UTC)

Re: Report at WP:AIV
I apologize ahead of time for launching into a large diatribe on your talk page. Please delete it after you read it if you wish. had been warned multiple times by multiple wikipedia users in regards to creating inappropriate pages as far back as May 2007. I tagged the article twice in one day to be speedily deleted and warned them both times before asking that they be blocked (although after looking at the initial warning, it doesn't stand out and appears to be a part of the speedy deletion template. oops, heh). Knowingly creating articles that are inappropriate after being asked not to four times seems to be vandalism. I could have been a bit more verbose in asking that they read the four large wikipedia speedy deletion templates, two of which had been there for three to four months. I suppose that it was too much to assume that the orange box that says "new messages" was actually clicked, but it seemed obvious that the user was checking messages because they responded to the last warning. I'm normally good about not biting the newbies (I consider myself a newbie after all). In this case the user was, I had to assume, knowingly creating (and recreating immediately after being deleted) inappropriate pages with complete disregard to being asked not to. How should I have handled it? (and I ask that question sincerely) BURNyA 19:36, 1 September 2007 (UTC)


 * I think the only problem here is that you told the user he was vandalizing Wikipedia using uw-vandalism4, which only confused him because he was probably re-creating that article in good faith. I think using uw-create3 would have been perfectly appropriate. After the misunderstanding happened, ideally you could have explained a little more thoroughly. When dealing with vandals, we often assume bad faith, which is understandable because most vandals are bad faith users, but it's important to keep an eye out for the occasional user who might just be ignorant (or slow-learning) and assume good faith first. No real harm done, but if you haven't already, you might want to bookmark Template messages/User talk namespace like I have. --Ginkgo100talk 22:18, 1 September 2007 (UTC)

Ok great, thanks for the heads up. I had never seen uw-create3 until now but it would have been much more appropriate. BURNyA 22:28, 1 September 2007 (UTC)

Arden Wohl
hi there ! I am not sure where to put this message so I will try here...You voted on the Arden Wohl article last month..and I was wondering if you could check this out... kind of annoying someone deleted out my references, and also the item about Arden being featured in Vogue last month and then put her up for deletion..maybe its Paris Hilton or something haha please put see this..and vote however you want lookin at the evidence...thanks! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Arden_Wohl_%282nd_nomination%29 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 198.96.80.15 (talk • contribs) 19:58, 1 September 2007 (UTC)

Whoa
O_O Cheers, Je  t  Lover  ( Report a mistake )  22:20, 3 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Yes, a very creative one. --Ginkgo100talk 19:11, 4 September 2007 (UTC)

About the block of - can you consider putting that back at a week? If you look at, he does the same things every day, and has done so for weeks now. I've yet to see him do it under any other IP address - he just seems to wait out each one and continue again. So, seeing that he uses the same IP for weeks to do the same vandalism, I think that a day is not enough (in fact it is just about the period that he puts in between each revert anyway), and that putting it back at a week or even a longer time should save us from further trouble. Thanks and regards, The Behnam 04:13, 5 September 2007 (UTC)
 * If the problems continue, it can be blocked for longer after this block expires. --Ginkgo100talk 13:33, 5 September 2007 (UTC)
 * He did it again. The Behnam 02:13, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

thanks
thanks for your message. the wikipedia guidelines, policies & processes are now much more complex than when i first joined in in fall 2005. probably a separated wiki should be created about them. again, thanks for the directions.Anonimu 10:56, 5 September 2007 (UTC)
 * There is a separate wiki for them. It's called Meta. Cheers! --Ginkgo100talk 13:32, 5 September 2007 (UTC)

Tom Martino restored
This article has been restored after its deletion was contested at. As you nominated the article to be deleted via WP:PROD, you may wish to nominate the article for a full deletion discussion at Articles for deletion. --After Midnight 0001 15:57, 9 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Thanks for letting me know. --Ginkgo100talk 00:25, 10 September 2007 (UTC)

RE:Reporting at AIV
What about if that user has made 4 vandalism edits, would that be enough to justify a block. Willirennen 21:47, 12 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Only if at least one of those vandalism edits was made after a final warning (level 3 or level 4), preferably more than a minute or two after a final warning. --Ginkgo100talk 02:06, 14 September 2007 (UTC)

Dreadfulwater
(cross post) Hi, in answer to your question at AIV, the user stopped merely adding controversial unsourced info, but today also started removing the wikimarkup and blanking. diff diff diff Thanks for blocking him/her, I hope now s/he starts communicating instead of 3RRing. Happy vandal fighting! Katr67 02:00, 14 September 2007 (UTC)

Pregnancy
Hi. Most of the images at the pregnancy article don't seem to be loading, at least not on my computer. Any idea why?Ferrylodge 16:26, 15 September 2007 (UTC)
 * I am not having any trouble loading them. Sounds like it's your computer that's the culprit. --Ginkgo100talk 20:12, 15 September 2007 (UTC)


 * It's all better now. Darn computers.Ferrylodge 04:43, 16 September 2007 (UTC)