User talk:Gioachino

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Hello, Gioachino, and welcome to Wikipedia! Thank you for your contributions. I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Here are some pages that you might find helpful: I hope you enjoy editing here and being a Wikipedian! Please sign your messages on discussion pages using four tildes ( ~ ); this will automatically insert your username and the date. If you need help, check out Questions, ask me on my talk page, or ask your question on this page and then place  before the question. Again, welcome! --Midnightdreary (talk) 13:42, 31 May 2008 (UTC)
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Re:Al Aaraaf
You had asked on my talk page what happened to your contribution to the article on "Al Aaraaf". As I explained in my edit summary, part of the reason was that the addition was poorly-written, full of typos, incoherent, and sometimes in incomplete sentences. It was also not in an appropriate section and was not sourced (see WP:CITE, WP:RS, WP:OR). It seems you need to learn a bit more abou Wikipedia (case in point, to leave a message on my talk page, you added a comment in the middle rather than the end of the page and removed someone else's comments when you did so). To help you out, I've added the "Welcome!" template above. That should give you a few links to help you get started. I highly recommend reading through as much as you can tolerate, and then keep going! There's a bunch of us who are willing to help, so always be prepared to ask questions. Best of luck to you! --Midnightdreary (talk) 13:42, 31 May 2008 (UTC)

Thanks "teach" and....best of luck with "your Poe", too!

Gioachino (talk) 08:42, 1 June 2008 (UTC)


 * I have no idea what you are asking or what ball is in my court, as you say. Could you attempt to be clearer? Is English not your first language? --Midnightdreary (talk) 13:11, 1 June 2008 (UTC)

See my answer at your talk page (re ball parks) and do try to read my "Two works by Poe decoded.Announcement" through. Greek, my native language, as well as history and genealogy, hobbies of last ten years, helped me deciphering Edgar's Nesace, Ianthe, Zante, his two Lygeias, Lenore, Annabel Lee etc. Gioachino (talk) 16:45, 1 June 2008 (UTC)
 * I really don't know what you are trying to say other than that you think the entire world of Edgar Allan Poe, including 200 years of scholarship, is all a lie and that only you know the truth. Sounds like a violation of original research to me. --Midnightdreary (talk) 23:09, 1 June 2008 (UTC)

My sympathies, teach: Selective hearing is THE symptom of "stuckontheofficiallinitis"! Keep it up and best of luck to you, again!Gioachino (talk) 04:35, 2 June 2008 (UTC)


 * Stop calling me "teach"; I feel you are being condescending. I don't have selective hearing because, for one thing, this is type not talk and, for another, you are really hard to understand. Anyway, conspiracy theories are fine and all, and I won't debate you, but I do want to be clear on Wikipedia policy: You can only add information to an article on Wikipedia if it is cited to a reliable, published source. You can NOT add your own theories. This is nothing personal, this has nothing to do with me (I'm not anyone important here, for example, I'm not an administrator so don't think that I am keeping you from doing this). Is this clear yet? --Midnightdreary (talk) 12:28, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

No, it's not clear at all since you have already admitted it was you who removed my Al Aaraaf contribution for "bad english" and/or applying-selectively-Wikipedia's policy on "sources": My am online publication (addressing issues much "heavier" than Poe and already widely read and highly graded) is both sourced and signed. As for "reliable": Your "two hudred years of Poe scholarship" reminded me of Mr Bean clumsily trying to repair the portrait he accidentally damaged, finally destroying it! Cheers Gioachino (talk) 17:07, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Read the policies and it may become clearer. I'm not denying that I reverted information that you added that did not adhere to Wiki-policy. I wish you would not insult me (i.e. the Mr. Bean comment); I don't believe I have insulted you (and, if I have, I apologize). Please don't take these things personally - it's all established policy on this project. I did try to look up your "online publication" - I can't access it (a link would have helped), but it appears to be an online message board post, as opposed to, for example, a third-party peer-reviewed scholarly journal. When it comes out in book form, you may have a better shot at showing that your work is reliable for this project (note: for this project should be emphasized; whatever else you do with your information is up to you). I am not making any dispute against your claims. I am only letting you know how we do things here at Wikipedia. And, really, I can only suggest this, but please look at these policies! It will help you understand what happens here at Wikipedia and you'll see that this is not personal. I would suggest we call this a draw and go our separate ways. --Midnightdreary (talk) 21:57, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

Declaring myself truly amazed by "what happens here", convinced by "their" objective rules and your eloquent argumentation already, please allow me, dear Sir, to bow and retreat, deeply behumbled, abandoning Truth to its Wiki-Fate! Gioachino (talk) 03:45, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
 * I'll leave you with this: Wikipedia is not interested in truth, but verifiability. And with that, best of luck to you in all that you do. --Midnightdreary (talk) 12:33, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

"Verifiability" litterally? Cheers!Gioachino (talk) 04:54, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

Speedy deletion of Nesace
A tag has been placed on Nesace requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section A1 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because it is a very short article providing little or no context to the reader. Please see Wikipedia:Stub for our minimum information standards for short articles. Also please note that articles must be on notable subjects and should provide references to reliable sources that verify their content.

If you think that this notice was placed here in error, you may contest the deletion by adding  to the top of the page that has been nominated for deletion (just below the existing speedy deletion or "db" tag), coupled with adding a note on the talk page explaining your position, but be aware that once tagged for speedy deletion, if the article meets the criterion it may be deleted without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag yourself, but don't hesitate to add information to the article that would would render it more in conformance with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. Lastly, please note that if the article does get deleted, you can contact one of these admins to request that a copy be emailed to you. Bit Lordy (talk) 19:36, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

Apply your rules-freely-on yourselves, mine differ! Gioachino (talk) 03:51, 3 June 2008 (UTC)