User talk:Gleamhound

Notable people in Southport

Disappointed to find that the list of notable people from or resident in Southport has recently been edited without, in my view, proper justification. There are no firm rules on what constitutes 'notability' as far as I am aware. So, it's a subjective thing and therefore one person's opinion is as valid as another as long as people are not merely listing their friends and neighbour, etc.

However, some of the alterations made do not even make objective sense; the writer Tony Jordan has been a figure of considerable influence in British TV drama for 10 years or more and has had more impact in his field than, say, the guitarist Ollie Halsall. I'm wondering if the person making the edits is unaware that Tony Jordan grew up in Southport, and his parents still live in Ainsdale.

When the 'notable people' list was first added to the Southport page, it was to give an idea of people who not were not only born in the town but who, by living here, have made an impact on the town's identity. By that token, people like Dr Barnardo, Kenny Dalglish and Alan Hansen should certainly still be included. It's ridiculous to say that because someone was not born in the town, they don't have an influence. This is information of general interest.

Also, I don't believe that just because a person does not have their own Wikipedia page they should not be included. The best example of this is the Rev Marcus Morris, a figure of great influence in the field of comics publishing. There's a certain kind of weird paradox at work when someone is deemed unimportant because they're not on Wikipedia.


 * Just to let you know your additions to this list have been reverted. They were removed for a number of reasons. Firstly because a number of them have no pages to link to, secondly some of the others are simply not notable; See WP:BIO And lastly the rest have little or minimal connection with Southport. If you would like to see any of them re-added I would suggest using the talk page and saying why you think they should be on the list. Unfortunately the Southport list of notables, because it has become so long and filled with such 'marginal' or simply in-notable people that many who view the page had decided to add their mother, sister, brother etc. So action was necessary to remove them. Thanks Galloglass 19:43, 29 October 2007 (UTC)


 * Hi, just to let you know I've created Marcus Morris - see comment on Talk:Southport. PamD (talk) 10:00, 10 December 2007 (UTC)