User talk:Glen/Archive1

Your comments on the David Miscavige article
Your comments are appreciated. You should also be aware that Scientologists who do not like the CofS still practice Scientology in a movement called the Freezone.--Fahrenheit451 06:51, 13 March 2006 (UTC)

And thanks for reverting Nuview's deletion. Your website is funny. The Office of Special Affairs hates free speech. It is much to your credit that you are exercising that right.--Fahrenheit451 19:02, 14 March 2006 (UTC)


 * The edits about "Patter Drills" has been extensively discussed on the discussion page of the David Miscavige article. In particular, Fahrenheit451 has attempted several times to point out how such drills do not comply with Hubbard's techology.  While I (having access to a full set of tech volumens and other documentation) have pointed to and quoted particular references of how Fahrenheit451's arguements do comply and in some cases, do not oppose (disemply, whatever you want to say), with Hubbard's technology but supplement Hubbard's technology, as he developed it.  However, Stollery, that you did not read the past discussions regarding "patter drills" and make no statement at all about the validity and uncitedness of the edit which you so strongly objected to, does not make your edit wrong, it merely points out that you have not fully informed yourself of the history of the situation.  I am one of 2 or 3 editors who somewhat keep an eye on the article.  Fahrenheit451 has, from time to time, inserted his statements about "patter drills".  Those are an education technique.  After quite a lot of discussion it was decieded by concensus that to include them in the David Miscavige article was not appropriate.  That is, I understood a concensus to have been reached.  However, apparently Fahrenheit451 understood the situation differently.  I would again invite further discussion about the patter drills, about their introduction into Scientology Technology, about their use, or about Mr. Miscavige's overseeing the Church during their introduction or even about who, exactly created, printed and distributed them.  My intent is toward arriving at a concensus so that we can present these informations in a sensible way to the readers of Wikipedia.  But while such discussions are going on, may we please stick to the earlier, temporarily arrived at concensus and keep the "patter drill" (especially the uncited portions) out of the David Miscavige article? Terryeo 20:09, 16 March 2006 (UTC)

Where is the evidence of consensus, Terryeo? And I too, have complete copies of L. Ron Hubbard's technical and policy references. I was the first to use them as citations. After repeated asking, you have not provided us with a reference by L. Ron Hubbard authorizing the talk to the wall patter drills.--Fahrenheit451 23:19, 24 March 2006 (UTC)

Wikinews interview
Hi Glen. Just letting you know that I've emailed the interview questions to your email address as displayed on http://www.stollery.com/ - Borofkin 06:20, 21 March 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for the help. This is exactly why these articles need to be watched. --DanielCD 14:33, 24 March 2006 (UTC)

Courtesy call
Reply to you at my talk page. —BorgHunter ubx (talk) 01:46, 25 March 2006 (UTC)

10 Random Pages
Interesting, isn't it? I wonder if by this time next year my latest batch will have been polished up all fine, as happened with the first batch. Ambi 05:49, 27 March 2006 (UTC)

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Wikinews interview
Hi Glen... how did you go with the interview? Please let me know if you do not wish to respond to the questions. - Borofkin 01:22, 29 March 2006 (UTC)

Talk:Licking
I responded to you there. --Syrthiss 15:58, 30 March 2006 (UTC)

hi glen
hi there glen- sorry for the addition to Craig Titus' page..but i was only havin a laugh! he seems definitely guilty i wont do it again, promise.. by the way, you seem like you have accomplished an awful lot in life why on earth are u here editing wikipedia when u run a supplement company? —This unsigned comment was added by 4.250.21.137 (talk • contribs) 09:30 31 March 2006 (UTC).

Correction of information.
Correction, I am clearing up the entries of misinformation. If Wikipedia is to be a respected online reference then it must remain neutral. Libel, lies, and misinformation must be removed from entries to ensure they remain objective and accurate.

Thanks. Andy

WP:SD
Hi, thanks :-) Would you suggest what to do with AMV video format please? --ΜιĿːtalk 11:48, 2 April 2006 (UTC)
 * Have flagged Kim McGinn on WP:AN/I. To avoid WP:3RR by either of us, some injection can be expected, hopefully... --ΜιĿːtalk 12:48, 2 April 2006 (UTC)
 * Going... Going... Gone... :-) --ΜιĿːtalk 13:01, 2 April 2006 (UTC)

Kim McGinn
Hi. I've deleted that article and protected it pending feedback from other admins. I'd like to point out though that you're dealing with a new editor, so you've escalated the warnings rather harshly. Start with a welcome template and a gentle warning. It's not always apparent to newcomers that biographies here must be verifiable and the subjects notable :-) (WP:BITE). --kingboyk 13:09, 2 April 2006 (UTC)

Hmm. Seems the "newbie" knows how to use test templates! :) Maybe I assumed too much good faith, which is never a bad thing. Whatever, you can chill out now the matter is in hand. --kingboyk 13:11, 2 April 2006 (UTC)

Yes, we were writing about the issue at the same time :-) He also found WP:ANI pretty quickly too, and has just posted a rant. Never mind, I've acted in good faith and within the guidelines, so it's just a question now of whether other admins think it's a clear cut CSD A7 or not. Watch this space :) --kingboyk 13:28, 2 April 2006 (UTC)

Yes, I went through the shouting and have responded on the thread. As Jimbo says, "give it two days..." I think it would be settled hopefully without further fuss. Cheers. --ΜιĿːtalk 08:40, 3 April 2006 (UTC)

Welcome to VandalProof
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Warnings
Hi Glen, I see you have removed some warnings from your talk page. Please donot do so in the future. Taking warnings from your talk page is officially considered vandalism in Wikipedia. --Nikitchenko 18:30, 3 April 2006 (UTC)
 * I'm curious - how is it that you noticed that these warnings took place? Were you just happening to be surfing Stollery's talk page history for some reason? Or did you hear about this squabble from someone else, perhaps? In any event, perhaps you also didn't notice that the warnings were clearly done out of harassment, and also placed improperly at the TOP of Stollery's talk page (where they would presumably linger forever), rather than in proper archivable chronological order? Your interest in Wikipedia policy being followed seems strangely selective. It's also interesting to note that you haven't left any similar concerns about Wikipolicy on the talk page for Toysoy (who has only been a Wikipedia user for 2 days, and strangely chose to harass Stollery in only his third-ever post). wikipediatrix 19:18, 3 April 2006 (UTC)
 * No, the warning I talk of are the ones that were NOT on top of Glen's page. --Nikitchenko 19:40, 3 April 2006 (UTC)
 * Well, that answered one of my concerns. Sort-of, anyway. One out of five isn't bad, I suppose. If your interest in this matter is so impartial, what, may I ask, was the purpose of posting "Hey wikipediatrix, are you ignoring Glen's erasing of personal attacks from his talkpage?" to my own talk page? wikipediatrix 19:54, 3 April 2006 (UTC)
 * If I am not mistaken the only other "warnings" I have ever received were from JimmyT/UNK (both the same person and he was banned for personal attacks) and I sought administrator approval before removing here. Is this what are you referring to? ĢĿ€Ñ §τοĿĿ€ŖγŤč'' 22:05, 3 April 2006 (UTC)
 * Does ChrisO have more authority than Wikipedia policy? --Nikitchenko 02:48, 4 April 2006 (UTC)
 * Nikitchenko, you are free to find out for yourself by complaining to the editor that put up the warnings -- that is unless the admin is no longer an editor. And I believe you are incorrect about Wikipedia policy in this regard.  Only in cases were an admin insists on an warning template remaining must it remain.  The Talk and User pages may in general be freely edited by the editor themselves. Vivaldi 01:34, 12 April 2006 (UTC)

'''Have you even bothered to read the warnings?! What is your problem with me?''' I expect an answer as I feel like you are wikistalking me. - Glen T C 03:14, 4 April 2006 (UTC)
 * 1) The warnings were for "removing content from Wikipedia" - I wasn't even removing content I was adding a AfD template!
 * 2) Wikipedia policy states: "It is generally acceptable to remove misplaced vandalism tags, as long as the reasoning is solid."
 * 3) The warnings were not valid, but to be sure I checked with an administrator.
 * 4) Why do you even care about this? Who are you and what is your problem with me?
 * I don't know. I assume you made personal attacks because that was the warning and UNK gave a links to them. Should we go to double check on them now? --Nikitchenko 03:15, 4 April 2006 (UTC)

I don't edit Wikipedia very often. I have a strong interest now because my friends say there are people causing problems, lyings, citing confidential material, etc. And worse. So, I care for my friend and I am checking into it. Why are you involved? --Nikitchenko 03:19, 4 April 2006 (UTC)

'''You haven't even looked before making accusations? Check your facts first... mate.''' Maybe you should stop "assming" and check your facts before making unjust accusations. UNK is now banned as he is a sockpuppet of JimmyT a permanently banned user who made numerous personal attacks (borderline threats) repeatedly on myself and at least half a dozen users as well as legal threats. I do not need to go check anything as I was there. Do what you want but instead of hassling Wikipediatrix and I again, how about checking your facts first - oh, and check what else UNK wrote on my user page as JimmyT while you're at it. Later. - Glen T C 03:25, 4 April 2006 (UTC)


 * OK, thats fine Stollery. But removing a warnings has not any similarity to "adding AfD template." If the warning was misplaced then you could maybe remove it. UNK did not misplace his warning, he gives his evidence right there.  Admin banned the user without any proof and now he say you can do anything to your talkpage (remove warning)?  Now I would like to end our meeting because I see you feel it is waste of your time and I also do not want to argue endlessly about these. --Nikitchenko 03:37, 4 April 2006 (UTC)

And why am I involved? Involved in what? YOU CAME TO ME?!


 * I have no idea.. I am talking of you getting involved with UNK. Why did he complain of you making personal attacks? I am only responding to message from you every couple minutes and so. --Nikitchenko 03:44, 4 April 2006 (UTC)


 * I went and looked. You call someone anal, it's a psych-oriented personal attack on a person who INSPECTING details.:) If you disagree, so be it. All cultures have different values. Have a good day. --Nikitchenko 03:55, 4 April 2006 (UTC)


 * I did not call someone anal. Read it again, the click the wikilink for "this cultures" definition. Sheesh. - Glen T C 03:58, 4 April 2006 (UTC)


 * You suggested he was anal, a personal attack is uncivil and unnecessary for talking about contents. http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3AWikipediatrix&diff=46304631&oldid=46303381 --Nikitchenko 04:06, 4 April 2006 (UTC)


 * Just forget about it ok? It's over with. --Nikitchenko 04:08, 4 April 2006 (UTC)


 * "if RadioKirk is going to be anal I have uploaded..." - Glen T C 04:18, 4 April 2006 (UTC)

William Stuart Brown
My comment 'happy now' was in good faith, though you can take it any way you like. I've added the citations regardless. Homosexuality was banned in DFAT until quite recently, and even now the homosexual diplomats can't get many postings because foreign countries take offense. - Richardcavell 08:49, 4 April 2006 (UTC)

Tommy Cruise
It was here that they got added and lasted through several edits. The anon was removing and I thought they were messing around and blindly reverted. Thanks for catching. CambridgeBayWeather (Talk) 14:21, 4 April 2006 (UTC)

What is with User:Nikitchenko?
Looks like another osa collaborator has been sent in to harass wikipedia editors who don't agree with the CoS party line. I read this user's complaints and they are truly captious, purely harassing quibbles.--Fahrenheit451 15:41, 4 April 2006 (UTC)


 * Indeed. Vivaldi 01:35, 12 April 2006 (UTC)

CSCWEM anomaly
Hi Glen. That day, I realized a few minutes later that the site was behaving extremely strangely; who knows what really happened? Regards. ×Meegs 19:45, 4 April 2006 (UTC)

Contacted you
Glen, the email function did not work, so I sent you a form email from your nutrition company website.--Fahrenheit451 00:50, 5 April 2006 (UTC)

Re: Death List
Yes, I did create the article, but I Afd'd it to try and calm down the controversy before it reached a daft level, if that makes sense. Gretnagod 18:10, 6 April 2006 (UTC)

970th edit!
T minus 30 to go! - Glen T C 22:50, 6 April 2006 (UTC)

Wassup my yello bruva
Peace out - ace town. 219.89.43.118 12:32, 7 April 2006 (UTC)

A Download Is Now Available
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answer songs
Why was it removed? It's quite OBVIOUSLY not a "test" or something. ??? 86.136.239.78 13:29, 11 April 2006 (UTC)
 * Okies, thanks. :) sorry for the inconvenience and stuff. 86.136.239.78 13:34, 11 April 2006 (UTC)

Dispute at Office of Special Affairs

 * Sure, you can call it blanking. I am disputing the reference, wording and OR used in the article.  I'll be taking this to RfC over the next couple days.  I'm taking the day off.  Have fun. --Nikitchenko 17:41, 11 April 2006 (UTC)


 * In my opinion, communication between us is failing and I see no point in you continuing to assert your POV upon me. Im looking to a 3rd party to help with this dispute. --Nikitchenko 18:23, 11 April 2006 (UTC)


 * Try visiting the OSA talk page and pointing out specifically your dispute with the article. Then try to develop a consensus for your edits.  You may even provide your suggestions for improvement and if we agree that they are appropriate then you can make the edits.  Vivaldi 01:40, 12 April 2006 (UTC)

Mediation
Dear Stollery (crossposted to Nikitchenko)

I'm very reluctant to get involved in the dispute between the two of you, for many reasons.

However, I would really recommend that you both consider accepting mediation over this as any dispute is disruptive to Wikipedia and it would be best to solve the problem by negotiation and consensus rather than arguing on your talk pages (and mine, for that matter).

If you would both be in agreement for this - and, again, I recommend you accept for your own good and the good of Wikipedia - then I would be happy to contact the Mediation Committee and make a request for mediation on your behalf.

Please seriously consider this. ➨ ❝ R E  DVERS ❞ 18:24, 11 April 2006 (UTC)


 * Thank you both for agreeing to this. I have contacted the Mediation Cabal and someone will be in contact with you shortly.


 * In the meantime, in order to cool the situation, I have added a small note to the section of the article you're in dispute about, noting that it is disputed. I have also protected the article - I'll lift the protection after 24 hours. This forces both of you to step away from the matter for a bit. It also prevents either of you inadvertently breaking the three revert rule.


 * I hope this helps you both. ➨ ❝ R E  DVERS ❞ 18:56, 11 April 2006 (UTC)


 * I've added my comments to the mediation page and the OSA talk page Nikichenko in the past seems unwilling to discuss or debate or develop consensus on talk pages before making his ill-advised edits, but I'm looking forward to what a mediator has to say in this regard.  Vivaldi 01:37, 12 April 2006 (UTC)

Re: db-nonsense tag
Is it possible to have one added to the next version at all? (or is it here and I'm blind!) :) Thanks again! - Gl e n T C 18:11, 11 April 2006 (UTC)
 * I don't entriely understand what you mean. When you click db-nonsense it posts (or should post) the template on the current version of the article. By the way I've copied this to the Questions section of VP's talk page; please respond there. AmiDaniel (Talk) 21:47, 11 April 2006 (UTC)

New Testament
I'm not sure what happend when you used the VandalProof but when you made this revert this stayed in. Now that nonsense was added in the middle of the edits that you reverted, so it may be a bug with the vandalproof but I'm not sure. CambridgeBayWeather (Talk) 05:13, 13 April 2006 (UTC)

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IE/Firefox
Yes, a big help, thank you. Radio Kirk   talk to me  13:19, 13 April 2006 (UTC)


 * Thank you for my approval! I look forward to an easier time zapping vandals. :) Radio  Kirk   talk to me  13:59, 13 April 2006 (UTC)

VandalProof Moderating
I just wanted to make sure you were aware of the bug in the Moderate List routine, where, in the current release, it fails to recognize changes made by moderators upon each load. I was just looking over your recent changes to the welcome page and saw that many users have been accidentally removed because of this bug. I'm going to release a working version this weekend, but for now just add users to the page by hand, by placing ((user2|username)) at the bottome of the list. Sorry about this, but thanks for your great help! It's much appreciated. AmiDaniel (Talk) 14:32, 13 April 2006 (UTC)

Punk'd
Hi. I've been having some problems on the Punk'd article with BigBang19, and looking at his user page, I see you posted several warnings to him regarding his vandalism of other pages as well. I and others have tried opening a dialogue with him both there and on the Punk'd Talk Page, but he continues to re-insert badly worded or factually unsupported information, and his only response on the Talk Page is to make vague comments about his deleting or merging articles, which he does not have the authority to do. I just I'd let you know. Given the "final" warnings you've issued to him, if he continues to vandalize the Punk'd page, it may be necessary to block him as warned. Just thought I'd let you know. Thanks. :-) Nightscream 16:59, 13 April 2006 (UTC)

Thanks, but what exactly does blacklisting mean on WP? He's still up to his shenanigans, continously vandalizing the article. I just reverted his last edits. Nightscream 17:38, 14 April 2006 (UTC)

Wow, New Zealand, huh? Cool. Me, I'm from New Jersey. Not much in the way of hobbits around here, although my fellow Italian-Americans who audition to be extras in The Sopranos are almost as hairy. (:-)) Perhaps between the two of us, we can keep BigBang in check, though I don't have this VandalProof thing.  Can I download it from somewhere?  Is it easy to use?  Thanks again. Nightscream 18:30, 14 April 2006 (UTC)

He did it again. Now he totally deleted the organazational structure of the page completely, and the info on it was turned into gibberish. You can see his last edit at: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Punk%27d&oldid=48468773. It's now been reverted back to normal, but you should check out that edit. As for VandalProof, am I correct in understanding that it can only be used on PC's, and not Mac's? I have a Mac, I don't think I can use .exe files on it, as it did not open up when I tried. If so, thanks anyway. :-) Nightscream 21:36, 14 April 2006 (UTC)

Since PS2pcGamer's last impassioned plea to BigBang19, he's continued to vandalize the Punk'd article, undoing the grammatical corrections I made some time ago, and inserting irrelevant, non-noteworthy material about Kuthcer's observence of Jewish holidays and his marriage to Demi Moore. Can someone block this person for a period of more than just 24 hours so that he gets the message? Nightscream 17:47, 17 April 2006 (UTC)

The vandalism continues, both on the Punk'd article and on the List of celebrities who have been Punk'd article. Can you help? Nightscream 05:37, 27 April 2006 (UTC)

Another VandalProof section on your talk page
Just wondering what the investigation was for. I mean, I'm a pretty sketchy guy and all, but I tend to keep my scandals off-line. Tijuana Brass 19:33, 13 April 2006 (UTC)


 * Thanks for letting me know. Just out of curiosity, could you clarify what you were referring to when you mentioned that I was involved in a dispute? Wanted to be on the same page. Gracias. Tijuana Brass 19:18, 14 April 2006 (UTC)


 * Absolutely. And I agree completely with the reasoning. Thanks. Tijuana Brass 19:36, 14 April 2006 (UTC)

i'm not blanking out any pages. the sub-category that includes the controversy has no evidence to back up their claims. If they could provide a third-party source or an actual piece of evidence proving that the site does take articles from them then I wouldn't have a problem with it being up. I fixed up the page and have been having problems with different users with this page since I started and the section has no validity. Myxomatosis 22:20, 13 April 2006 (UTC)

Attention Moderators!
Due to technical problems, I've removed all moderators other than myself. This bugs will be fixed in the next release, likely on Saturday, and I will then add you back as moderators. AmiDaniel (Talk) 22:47, 13 April 2006 (UTC)

VandalProof
Thanks very much for approving my use of VandalProof. I wonder, though, if you might ensure that I have been authorized to use the program; notwithstanding that I am now on the list, the program rejects my login and advises that, if my name appears on the authorized list, I ought to write to the moderator who approved me (perhaps AmiD's message supra explains the problem). In any case, if you'd be so kind as to check whenever you've a moment, I'd be much appreciative. Joe 22:50, 13 April 2006 (UTC)
 * Thanks so much for adding me manually; I appreciate your time. :) Joe 03:10, 14 April 2006 (UTC)

Re: Barnstar
Thanks!!! My first ever barnstar =). I'll have to go put this on my userpage. And thank you also for all your hard work!! It's much appreciated and will be even moreso appreciated once I release 1.1. AmiDaniel (Talk) 19:38, 14 April 2006 (UTC)

Invitation
Fasten 21:10, 14 April 2006 (UTC)

VandalProof 1.1 is Now Available For Download
Happy Easter to all of you, and I hope that this version may fix your current problems and perhaps provide you with a few useful new tools. You can download version 1.1 at User:AmiDaniel/VandalProof. Let me warn you, however, to please be extremely careful when using the new Rollback All Contributions feature, as, aside from the excessive server lag it would cause if everyone began using it at once, it could seriously aggitate several editors to have their contributions reverted. If you would like to experiment with it, though, I'd be more than happy to use my many sockpuppets to create some "vandalism" for you to revert. If you have any problems downloading, installing, or otherwise, please tell me about them at User:AmiDaniel/VP/Bugs and I will do my best to help you. Thanks. AmiDaniel (Talk) 06:50, 16 April 2006 (UTC)
 * Gimme just a sec, and I'll have the mod tools back online. Sorry about the delay, and I'm glad to hear you installed everything just fine! Thanks. AmiDaniel (Talk) 07:07, 16 April 2006 (UTC)
 * Already, your mod tools should be back working again. AmiDaniel (Talk) 07:18, 16 April 2006 (UTC)

Speedy delete of Australia-New Zealand relations
Hi - I reverted your speedy deletion of Australia-New Zealand relations. Please read Criteria for speedy deletion. The article does not fit the criteria. For example, to delete an article as "nonsense", the criteria is: ''no meaningful content, unsalvageably incoherent page. This does not include: poor writing, partisan screeds, obscene remarks, vandalism, badly translated material, implausible theories or hoaxes.'' I cannot see any criteria the article met for speedy deletion. You also should have reviewed the page history where you would have seen that the article had many edits from many eidtors since January 2005, also a clear indication that it would not be a speedy deletion candidate.--A Y Arktos\talk 10:52, 16 April 2006 (UTC)
 * I agree with you on this matter. This page is a POV page and should be deleted. Even if many editors have worked on it since 2005, that is still not relevant as it does have poor grammer and does not cite sources. That's my opinion though. Cheers! --Matt von Furrie 02:38, 17 April 2006 (UTC)

VandalProof
Hi, that's a very good question! I hadn't noticed that I'd meade those edits, and obviously they were not deliberate. One hting I did do was to click on the moderate list button on the moderator tools when there was no-one to add to the list. This clearly buggers up the whole thing! --Wisd e n17 00:03, 17 April 2006 (UTC)

Personal attacks removed
Attack, one of a series, has been removed: —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Stan Tree (talk • contribs) {09:24, 18 April 2006  (UTC+10 hours). User has been blocked for 24 hours for personal attacks.--A Y Arktos\talk 23:55, 17 April 2006 (UTC)

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VandalProof Problems
Hi Glen, couple of things. I added some users onto the Approved list and one of them, Snailwalker is now saying he can't login to VP, neither can I. Is it just us, or are you able to log in. Secondly after I'd added these users I went to send them the welcome template, and the blue status bar went to the right, and then VP quit saying it had a runtime error. After that, User:Spangineer got deleted from the Awaiting Approval section, which I presume is related to me (although I can't see how). Any ideas? I've left AmiD a message as well. --Wisd e n17 22:40, 18 April 2006 (UTC)

Attention Moderators: Toolserver
As you may be aware, the English language Wikipedia is no longer replicating data to the Wikimedia toolserver. Therefore, the data provided by Interiot's edit count tool is growing increasingly out of date, and in the interest of more accurately responding to user registration requests, I'd like to ask all moderators to look into downloading other tools for determining raw edit counts independent of the toolserver. One alternative would be Flcelloguy's Tool, although I've found his tool a little takes a considerable ammount of time to retrieve edit counts, and as such is not ideal for what we're doing. I'd also like to recommend my raw edit counter, which can be found at User:AmiDaniel/EditCounter, that provides the ability to limit the number of edits to be counted as well as the namespace in which to search and, thereby, is able to run at a much faster rate than Flcelloguy's tool. If you choose to use my tool, I recommend that you query mainspace edits with the limit set to 500 (though the default is 250, which runs somewhat faster). In my local version of VandalProof, the count button now loads this tool to query mainspace edits with a limit of 500, and, unless I find a tool more suited to our purpose, this will likely become the standard in the next release. If you choose not to download an alternative edit counter, please be sure to check the contributions of all users who fall below the standard 250 mainspace requirement, as they may have become more active within Wikipedia since the toolserver went down and now may be suited to use VandalProof. I'm sorry about all the problems we've been having since VP's release, but we're hopefully nearing the end. Thanks again for all your help! AmiDaniel (Talk) 06:50, 19 April 2006 (UTC)

Auckland Meetup
Just to let you know that a meetup is planned in Auckland in a couple of months, see: Meetup/Auckland for details. GeorgeStepanek\<sup style="color:gray;">talk 11:39, 22 April 2006 (UTC)

Old Skool Esperanzial note
Since this isn't the result of an AC meeting, I have decided to go Old Skool. This note is to remind you that the elections are taking place now and will end at 23:50 UTC on 2006-04-29. Please vote here. Thanks. --Cel es tianpower háblame 20:42, 23 April 2006 (UTC)

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Vandalproof Application
Thanks for the reply. How does one know when one has reached more than the minumum requirements. I've never been quite clear on that. Thanks again for the consideration (you can answer on my talk page, if you wish)Rsm99833 23:30, 26 April 2006 (UTC)

Just returned from my 2 week wikibreak
Just an FYI - Gl e n  TC (Stollery)  09:59, 27 April 2006 (UTC)

why did you remove my factual comments abour raunds have you ever been there ???? i beleieve not —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 86.133.109.4 (talk • contribs)  02:56, 28 April 2006.

Using VandalProof
Hi, I can see the intention was in the right place but in this edit you removed approximately 22 legitimate AfDs from the log page (now reverted). Please try to be careful with VandalProof.-- blue 520  09:38, 28 April 2006 (UTC)
 * Yikes! Thank you for picking up and sorry! My bad, it's getting late here in NZ obviously! Thanks for the heads up and apologies again - Gl e n  TC (Stollery)  09:44, 28 April 2006 (UTC)
 * No problems. What actually suppressed me was that no one else picked it up, as there is about 25 min between your edit and my reversion. By the way I have taken  off the log as intended. Also I like how you have added Stollery to your sig as it makes it clearer what your user name is.-- blue  520  10:07, 28 April 2006 (UTC)

Vandal Proof
Just to indicate: I answered on my talkpage. (I know you're probably watching it, but I forgot to mention on the top of my page, that I will always answer there). --Mbimmler 14:33, 28 April 2006 (UTC)

I gave this user a message, explaining the situation and requesting (s)he use more generic edit summaries. I show 467 mainspace edits, are you using the updated editcounter? The old one (tools.wikimedia.de/...) is currently not working on the English Wikipedia. Thanks for bringing this to my attention, Prodego  <sup style="color:darkgreen;">talk  21:10, 28 April 2006 (UTC)


 * (S)he has followed my advice on the edit summaries, and it is all sorted out, thanks again for bringing it to me! Prodego  <sup style="color:darkgreen;">talk  00:43, 29 April 2006 (UTC)

RFA thanks
Hey Stollery, just wanted to drop you a line thanking you for your kind words on my RFA. Keep up the good work! &rArr; <font face="Euclid Fraktur"> SWAT  Jester    Ready    Aim    Fire!  00:49, 29 April 2006 (UTC)

Office of Special Affairs
Glen, please explain why you reverted to a version that includes a personal website as reference. --Nikitchenko 01:15, 29 April 2006 (UTC)

Hugh Boyd Secondary School
I'm so embarrassed. That's almost the same thing that happened during an edit war on Football where a whole section went missing for 11 hours. I should have lookd but was busy reverting and deleting the vandals other edits. CambridgeBayWeather (Talk) 06:49, 29 April 2006 (UTC)
 * Fixed them now. I just protected Football. They spend their time reverting over the heading "Irish and Australian varieties of football" to "Irish and Victorian varieties of football". It's quite a funny read from last month. CambridgeBayWeather (Talk) 06:58, 29 April 2006 (UTC)

Becky's Diner
G'day Glen,

the notice I posted on Talk:Becky's Diner includes a link to the discussion: Articles for deletion/Becky's Diner. Essentially: the subject of the article passes WP:CORP, our major guideline on the notability of businesses, can boast famous clientele and mentions in several independent publication (including a book about the best places to eat in the United States). Most of the people who opined on the discussion page just said "dude, it's a diner" (which is not an argument for deletion), but there was one fellow who pointed out (and fair enough, too) that there aren't many Google hits. Because I was impressed by this argument, I closed as no consensus instead of keep. Cheers, fuddlemark ([[User talk:MarkGallagher|fudd