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The Military history WikiProject Newsletter : Issue XXXVIII (April 2009)
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Kresna
Hello Gligan! Long time no see :) I am afraid I have to disagree with you on this one. We have had an extensive and sometimes heated debate on the subject. The fact is that both sides claim victory. IMO, the Greek army was indeed in a bad position and rather exhausted, but had not yet been defeated. As of the armistice, it was actually launching local counter-attacks. We cannot claim a victory for either side when neither army collapsed, retreated or surrendered. Sure, to the Bulgarians, it may have been a moral victory, since the Greek advance was stopped, but on the field, it was a stalemate. Best regards, Constantine  ✍  10:34, 29 May 2009 (UTC)


 * Well, I would agree with you, except: a strategic victory implies a reversal of the fortunes of the war. Bulgaria had been de facto defeated before Kresna ever started, because Romania had intervened in the war and was closing on Sofia. And Venizelos was urging the King to accept the armistice days before he actually did. I won't say that Kresna was a Greek victory, it wasn't (except insofar that a successful resistance to superior forces is a "success"), and it certainly is due to the battle that Constantine agreed to the cease-fire. As for the Bulgarians, it was a sort of "feel-good" success since Constantine would have preferred to sign the armistice as conqueror in Sofia, but not really a major reversal... IMO it would be best to leave the infobox as it is and focus on expanding the article. Infoboxes are notoriously imprecise summaries, and if we want the nuances of the battle properly captured, it is best done within the main article. Constantine  ✍  10:50, 29 May 2009 (UTC)

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