User talk:Globalexperiences

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Promotional material
Please do not add promotional material to Wikipedia. Wikipedia is not a vehicle for advertising. You are, however, encouraged to add appropriate content to the encyclopedia. If you feel the material in question should be added to the article, then please discuss it on the article's talk page rather than re-adding it. See the welcome page to learn more about Wikipedia. Thank you.

User pages are not to be used for advertising. See User page for guidelines. Fan-1967 20:24, 15 January 2007 (UTC)

The rules haven't changed.
User pages are still not for advertising. Wikipedia is not for promoting your company. Fan-1967 17:25, 17 January 2007 (UTC)

Content was modified.
The content had been modified to meet the regulations of wikipedia. Only facts were stated. For example, Global Experiences IS an international ed. service provide. Global Experiences IS a member of NAFSA... I don't understand where there was blantant advertisement in the article. Please point out specifics.

Thank you


 * Read User page. Wikipedia is an encyclopedia. User pages, and user talk pages, are for the purpose of assisting in editing the encyclopedia, or discussing changes to the encyclopedia, or describing the editors of the enecyclopedia.


 * You have made no contributions to the encyclopedia. You seem to think this is a free bulletin board to post information about your company. It is not. Fan-1967 17:36, 17 January 2007 (UTC)

Orphaned fair use image (Image:Ge logo 250x102.gif)
Thanks for uploading Image:Ge logo 250x102.gif. I notice the 'image' page currently specifies that the image is unlicensed for use on Wikipedia and may only be used on Wikipedia under a claim of fair use. However, the image is currently orphaned, meaning that it is not used in any articles on Wikipedia. If the image was previously in an article, please go to the article and see why it was removed. You may add it back if you think that that will be useful. However, please note that images for which a replacement could be created are not acceptable under fair use (see our fair use policy).

If you have uploaded other unlicensed media, please check whether they're used in any articles or not. You can find a list of 'image' pages you have edited by clicking on the "my contributions" link (it is located at the very top of any Wikipedia page when you are logged in), and then selecting "Image" from the dropdown box. Note that any fair use images not used in any articles will be deleted after seven days, as described on criteria for speedy deletion. Thank you. Fang Aili talk 17:32, 17 January 2007 (UTC)

Again, recreating your self-promotion
You have now recreated the same self-promotional material on your User page multiple times. Clearly, you have no other purpose here. I have submitted a request to have your account blocked from further edits to Wikipedia. Fan-1967 17:51, 17 January 2007 (UTC)


 * Your account has been blocked indefinitely as a spam-only account. --Fang Aili talk 17:56, 17 January 2007 (UTC)

User block
I don't understand your rationale. I stated facts about an organization and what it does. Please explain to me then how McDonalds can have a wikipedia site? How is that not a form of advertisement? I recreated my page in accordance with your guidelines, I don't understand why there is a problem. Can you point to something specifically in the page that is an issue? In addition, if I were to notice profanity on a site which doesn't appear to be appropriate for an encyclopedia, how would I go about filing a report of that? Thank you for your time and consideration.
 * Easy. McDonalds is a major, notable, newsmaking company. Hundreds of people have edited that article, and there is no indication that any of them were McDonalds employees. Much of the content involves news about the company, both positive and negative. If anyone, employee or not, attempts to slant the article, the sheer number of other editors will prevent that from happening.
 * If your company were, in fact, a major, notable, newsmaking company, someone would have created an article on you. No one did. Conflict of interest guidelines say that those directly involved should not do so. Employees or owners of a company are almost never capable of impartial descriptions of themselves, and your content was certainly no exception.
 * You used a username to promote your company, and used a user page to promote your company. Both are forbidden. Since you clearly had no other purpose here, there is no point in having you remain. Fan-1967 18:05, 17 January 2007 (UTC)


 * I guess it was silly of me to post a welcome message just after you have been blocked. However, it contains some links that may answer your questions. --Fang Aili talk 18:09, 17 January 2007 (UTC)

Rationale
I understand what you are saying but I don't agree because it DOES discriminate. It sounds a bit like pork barreling I hope you noticed the entry that came up with that, how ironic. No doubt, Wikipedia will have to deal with this differently in the future. Last few points... I am not an employee of GE, I am an unpaid intern, essentially a volunteer. I have never used their services nor does it affect me in either way whether or not they make money. So, with this in mind, I'd like to know how exactly my article was slanted. Granted, the first one was. I'm new to wiki and did not pay enough attention to the material. But the last entry lists straight facts, I don't see how it could be a problem. I'd ask your patience by giving me a specific problem from the article. xie xie ni

P.S. Fan-1967 are you absolutely positive that all the information regarding the Sexual Intercourse page is appropriate? The visual images sure look pornographic to me.

pornography- the depiction of erotic behavior (as in pictures or writing) intended to cause sexual excitement


 * Wikipedia is not censored.


 * The standard for notable companies is Notability (companies and corporations).


 * Let me try to make this very simple. Nobody has a right to be listed here. This is not a directory, and we have no interest in listing your company in order to be "fair". Listing any company is not intended to benefit that company. The intent is to have encyclopedic articles on major companies that people would seek information on. People come looking for information on Ford, or McDonalds, or Microsoft, just as they would seek information on George Bush, or Spina Bifida, or Egypt. This is an encyclopedia. We don't care what benefits your company, only what benefits the readers of the encyclopedia. It does not seem that allowing you to create a description of your company benefits our readers. Fan-1967 18:28, 17 January 2007 (UTC)

Content
Please note the same page you just directed to me to on What Wikipedia is not also states that:

Wikipedia is not a paper encyclopedia

Wikipedia is not a paper encyclopedia. This means that there is no practical limit to the number of topics we can cover, or the total amount of content, other than verifiability and the other points presented on this page.

That same article also states this on advertising:

Advertising. Articles about companies and products are acceptable if they are written in an objective and unbiased style. Again, the final revision of my article is objective, giving only facts.

The article you sent me on notability states that entries on companies can be cleaned up to give a neutral point of view. This is exactly what I did. AGAIN, can you give a specific example of how I did not give a neutral, factual entry on my last attempt? To draw conclusions on my original intent shows your bias to my entry.

Finally, my last point from the What Wikipedia is not:

Wikipedia is not a bureaucracy

Wikipedia is not a moot court, and although rules can make things easier, they are not the purpose of the community and instruction creep should generally be avoided. A perceived procedural error made in posting anything, such as an idea or nomination, is not grounds for invalidating that post. Follow the spirit, not the letter, of any rules, policies and guidelines. Disagreements should be resolved through consensual discussion, rather than through tightly sticking to rules and procedures.

Thanks for your consideration. I hope this discussion will help both sides to truly consider what is and isn't just. Finally, please noted that no where have I insulted you personally for your removal of my profile. I can't say the same for yourself.


 * First of all, none of those policies apply to user pages, only to articles.


 * Secondly, you ignored the whole point of the Notability definition: What makes your company notable? Why should it be here? Do you seriously believe people are flocking to Wikipedia seeking information on Global Experiences, as they do for Xerox or Coca-Cola? They're not.


 * Third, you are hardly in a position to judge what is objective. It amazes me how often people believe they're being objective and neutral. Sorry, it takes a total outsider to do that.


 * Finally, The spirit of the rules is that you are trying to gain exposure for your company. That is not what we're here for. Fan-1967 18:50, 17 January 2007 (UTC)