User talk:Gloss/Archive 2

Money in the Bank (2011) peer review
Hi Gloss, due to your experience in editing professional wrestling related articles, I'd like to invite you to comment on the peer review for Money in the Bank (2011), which I have an interest to eventually push for Featured Article status. Thank you very much. starship .paint ~ regal  09:24, 17 July 2014 (UTC)

The Pinkprint
It would be appreciated if you looked over and voted on the move request for The Pink Print to the The Pinkprint. Up to this point there hasn't been a direct response as to which spelling was correct. Nicki Minaj herself clarified the question directly stating it was written, "The Pinkprint", (https://twitter.com/NICKIMINAJ/status/497117375712329728). Leave either your support or opposition for the move here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:The_Pink_Print#Requested_move_06_August_2014.

Thank you for your time, KaneZolanski (talk) 00:11, 7 August 2014 (UTC).

Some comments after peer reviewing your article
See the Peer Review page. Friendly regards, Kareldorado (talk) 15:54, 26 October 2014 (UTC)

Levdr1lostpassword
Full disclosure...I felt like you were talking down to me 6 months ago, when you suggested an "interaction ban". It was kind of like you were talking to me like I was a second grader, and I didn't appreciate that. That's why I said that Levdr and I could hash it out amongst ourselves. The problem is quite honestly on his end...he feels as though he has to be the end all-be-all of Wikipedia, and any edit I make has to meet HIS approval, and he hides behind the Wiki rule-book.

I don't go into making any edit looking to cause trouble...I make edits and add sources to back them up with the intention of adding legitimate info to an article to make it better. There is no way I can be wrong every single time (just about) I make an edit, because 9 times out of 10 (it seems) Levdr is right there "lecturing" me about "WP:This" and "WP:That". I mean really... That's why I feel he hounds me - so he can come off as the great Wiki Oracle, and I'm just supposed to genuflect at his brilliance.

The sock accusation just was the plain ol' last straw. He really feel he did that just out of spite, as any investigation will clearly show it wasn't me, and he knows it. It's the principle of the thing...he did it just to try to tarnish my character around here.

Vjmlhds (talk) 18:28, 29 October 2014 (UTC)
 * You're claiming he's a bully. I agree with that. But what a bully wants is a reaction and you give into it every time. Ignore him, don't answer him. If there's a problem with a specific article that you're having a conflict with, bring it to that article's talk page and let other editors help in making the decision. Other than that, you can choose to ignore him and that's your best move from here.  G loss  18:31, 29 October 2014 (UTC)


 * I understand all that, and I do try to avoid conflict with him. But you can only be pushed so much before you have to push back - otherwise you just become a sitting duck. Vjmlhds (talk) 18:56, 29 October 2014 (UTC)
 * He knows how to make you mad. Don't let him get you mad. Don't go looking for conversations with him and don't reply to him unless it's on an article talk page. I saw recently you tried to thank him for his work on an article and his response was "I didn't do anything" instead of a thank you, or anything kind in return for your kind words. You really think you need to be interacting with someone like that? Ignore the bully and move back onto your usual work.  G loss  19:13, 29 October 2014 (UTC)


 * In real life, the thing most bullies deserve is a 2X4 upside the head (numerous times)...just saying. Vjmlhds (talk) 19:21, 29 October 2014 (UTC)


 * Gloss-- I did thank Vjmlhds for recognizing my work; I simply noted that I only actually created two of the three articles he credited to me (I'm not going to take credit for someone else's work). And if either of you plan to openly refer to me as a "bully", at least do me the service of taking your concerns to an administrator or some appropriate venue.  You may also want to consider, Gloss, that Vjmlhds' attitude toward me is sometimes (but not always) hot/cold.  At times, he is seemingly either accusing me of personal attacks, or showering me w/ awards and/or wikilove.  It's precisely this type of impulsive behavior that contributed to my decision to open a case at SPI.  Levdr1 lp  / talk  22:12, 29 October 2014 (UTC)


 * Dude, I haven't given you an award in months, so don't act like I "shower" you in anything. I've always given kudos to editors who go above and beyond...it's called human decency.  Nothing "impulsive"...you do good, you get praise, you do bad, you get called on the carpet.  You did REAL BAD this time with the phony SPI accusation.  And I'm telling you straight up - YOU ARE A BULLY, and at the end of the day, all bullies eventually get theirs. Vjmlhds (talk) 22:48, 29 October 2014 (UTC)


 * There was nothing "phony" w/ the case I opened at SPI-- but if an admin or clerk finds fault w/ my decision to open the case, I'm sure I'll be the first to know. As for the "bully" talk, fine, you have made your feelings known.  All I'm saying here is that if you (or Gloss) has reason to think I'm doing anything seriously inappropriate, then one or both of you should "put your money where your mouth is" (to quote an admin at ANI), and take action to address the problem.  That said, I think the rest of this discussion probably belongs at the ANI thread.  While I don't agree w/ you, Gloss, I don't intend to clog your talk page.  But I also couldn't just ignore this exchange.  Levdr1 lp  / talk  23:02, 29 October 2014 (UTC)


 * This will be my last post here (didn't mean to use this page for this), but it needs to be said...When you pick a fight with the devil, you're gonna get the pitchfork. Vjmlhds (talk) 23:09, 29 October 2014 (UTC)

Levdr, I'm really not all that concerned with the two of you and your bickering, seeing as I tried to help resolve it once and I have no intentions to help again. But in my opinion, you've been nothing but a jerk in your interactions with Vj, but truthfully Vj has acted like a child. There's really no need to drag this across the site and get others involved. Levdr, you know you've not been the nicest person to Vj and it's up to you if you plan on dropping it already or not (which I'm sure I know the answer to) and Vj, you know this guy gets on your nerves and it's up to you if you plan on following my advice and ignoring him (which I'm sure I know the answer to)...  G loss  01:32, 30 October 2014 (UTC)


 * If it's permitted, I'm not necessarily opposed to withdrawing the case I filed at SPI. I honestly don't know if Vjmlhds was socking at Firelands or not.  (FWIW, I think anyone who objectively reviews the case will find reason to suspect Vjmlhds-- suspect, but not necessarily conclude he was socking.)  That said, "bickering" is one thing, while socking is something else entirely, and I would appreciate it if in the future you'd avoid conflating the two.  And to reiterate my earlier point, if you have serious concerns about my actions and/or interactions, then please take them to an admin or some appropriate venue/board.  Despite Vjm's claims of "harassment", I tried to be as thorough, fair, and evidence-based as possible when I filed the SPI case.  I would appreciate (and expect) the same from other editors making serious accusations against me.  Levdr1 lp  / talk  02:35, 30 October 2014 (UTC)
 * I'm not talking about the SPI whatsoever. I'm referring to every single conversation you two have. No need to continue here, you two can resolve (or not resolve) your problems elsewhere.  G loss  02:38, 30 October 2014 (UTC)


 * From this point on is dead to me.  I will not go to his talk page, or even acknowledge him any longer.  I learned my lesson.  Being nice and cordial just doesn't work with some people.  I let my anger get the best of me, but I never came into this with any ill will towards anyone, all I wanted was my name cleared from a bogus accusation of socking. Vjmlhds (talk) 02:44, 30 October 2014 (UTC)


 * Gloss-- Allow me to clarify. Both you and Vjmlhds have openly characterized my actions as that of a "bully".  My point is that, just as I did w/ Vjmlhds, you have every opportunity to address my inappropriate (in your view) behavior, including at the ongoing discussion Vjmlhds opened at ANI.  (Incidentally, a CheckUser has concluded Vjm is "unrelated" to the Firelands sock(s).  So there's that.)  Failing that, your claims read as unsubstantiated at best.  Levdr1 lp  / talk  03:15, 30 October 2014 (UTC)
 * I'm not trying to convince anyone of my opinion and I don't know where you're getting that idea. I stated my opinion on my talk page and that's that.  G loss  03:17, 30 October 2014 (UTC)


 * Whether or not you're trying to convince anyone is basically irrelevant. Serious claims require serious evidence.  In short, please either stop characterizing my actions as that of a "bully", or take your concerns to some appropriate venue, such as the open ANI thread.  Levdr1 <font color="#FF0000">lp  / <font color="#000000">talk  03:38, 30 October 2014 (UTC)
 * Calling you a bully is a serious claim? Please go for a walk or something, you're spending too much time on the internet.  G loss  04:03, 30 October 2014 (UTC)


 * I suppose you're right. Apparently your claim that I am acting like "bully" isn't serious enough for you to raise at the open ANI, nor credible enough for you to support w/ evidence.  <font color="#FFFFFF">Levdr1 <font color="#FF0000">lp  / <font color="#000000">talk  04:20, 30 October 2014 (UTC)
 * Exactly right, buddy.  G loss  04:26, 30 October 2014 (UTC)


 * At first I didn't quite understand your tone, but now I'm wondering if I simply wasn't clear enough in my last post. So I've clarified.  I apologize for distracting you now if you understood my meaning the first time.  <font color="#FFFFFF">Levdr1 <font color="#FF0000">lp  / <font color="#000000">talk  07:37, 30 October 2014 (UTC)
 * Uh, okay. Move along :)  G loss  13:40, 30 October 2014 (UTC)

November 2014
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Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Paige Michalchuk
You are invited to join the discussion at Articles for deletion/Paige Michalchuk. Thanks. Avono (talk) 18:27, 9 November 2014 (UTC)

Survivor non-free image
There is no way that the cast photo "significantly increase[s] readers' understanding of the article topic, and its omission would be detrimental to that understanding." Adabow (talk) 19:40, 9 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Care to explain why you feel that way? The Survivor season is completely about its contestants. The entire article discusses the contestants. The image portrays who these people are. Look at any Big Brother (U.S.) season. They all have cast photos, is that a problem as well? Big Brother 16 (U.S.), Big Brother 15 (U.S.), Big Brother 13 (U.S.), Big Brother 12 (U.S.), etc etc.  G loss  19:44, 9 November 2014 (UTC)
 * The BB photos are definitely a problem, too. Notice that older Survivor season articles use free images of contestants where available. If you would prefer, I can nominate the image for deletion and we can get input from the Wikipedia community. Adabow (talk) 19:50, 9 November 2014 (UTC)
 * If you'd be so kind as to nominate a BB image first, I'd appreciate it. Those have been there for much longer than the Survivor images, so I'd be interested to see how that discussion goes.  G loss  19:54, 9 November 2014 (UTC)
 * OK, sure. See Non-free content review. Adabow (talk) 04:52, 10 November 2014 (UTC)

Hey Gloss,
Are you watching this season of Survivor? ~ Totaldramaman  ( talk ·  contribs ) 04:18, 10 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Of course!  G loss  05:12, 10 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Are you enjoying it? IMO it's not horrible by any means but it's far from the greatest. Coming off the heels of Cagayan, it had a lot to live up to. ~ Totaldramaman  ( talk ·  contribs ) 02:06, 11 November 2014 (UTC)
 * I'll always enjoy Survivor. Even when it's not a great as past seasons, there's still game to be played and storylines to follow. They might not be as exciting as seasons past, but it's still a game I love and I'll watch and enjoy regardless.  G loss  06:18, 11 November 2014 (UTC)

What did you think of Africa? ~ Totaldramaman  ( talk ·  contribs ) 03:32, 12 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Solid season. Lex wins one more challenge and he would've won the season, so that was unfortunate. But Ethan is still a great winner and I love the cast.  G loss  04:24, 12 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Really you liked Lex? I just watched it and he was one of my least favorites. The way he just told everyone "you're going home and there's nothing you can do about it" was gross. Also I will never figure out how tf TOM got an All-Star spot. eta also thanks for helping me out with the archive, lol. ~ Totaldramaman  ( talk ·  contribs ) 02:55, 13 November 2014 (UTC)
 * No problem!  G loss  02:58, 13 November 2014 (UTC)

Regarding NSONGS and AFD of Rihanna articles, please see here.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Notability_(music)#WP:NSONG_needs_re-evaluating_and_re-wording

GOCE copyediting request
Hi Gloss, I just wanted to let you know that I'm finished copyediting Josh Hutcherson, an article that you listed on the GOCE requests page. Let me know if you have any comments. (By the way, apologies for that error; I forgot to put "the".) -- Biblio worm  20:52, 22 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Thank you very much for taking care of this! And don't worry about the error, just didn't want to insult you by fixing it so quickly.  G loss  08:27, 23 November 2014 (UTC)

Harassment by an IP editor
I have blocked the editor who has been arbitrarily reverting your edits, as you can see at User talk:92.105.159.7. However, I see that the same person previously did the same things from another IP address and was blocked, as can be seen at User talk:178.199.182.16, so it is quite likely that he or she will come back on yet another IP address. If that happens, please feel welcome to contact me, as I may be able to block more quickly than a likely response time at Administrator intervention against vandalism, if I am on line at the time. However, obviously if I am not on line AIV may be your best bet. The editor who uses the pseudonym "JamesBWatson" (talk) 13:52, 26 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Thank you for taking care of that. I'm sure I'll be visiting your talk page in the near future.  G loss  14:59, 26 November 2014 (UTC)

Josh Hutcherson FAC re-review notes
I have responded on the FAC.--Mark Miller (talk) 06:58, 6 December 2014 (UTC)

Survivor
Hey. So first off, I just wanted to say thanks again for giving me a chance with the whole "Days" thing on the list of Survivor contestants page. I promise that you won't regret it, since it's a nice addition to the page, in my opinion, once I fixed it up a little more.

Second, do you agree with my proposal that the Survivor: San Juan Del Sur page be locked until further notice (with perhaps a brief unlocking for the finale?), as a result of all the vandalism in the "Reception" section? It's just getting ridiculously out-of-control, and there are so many different IP's all getting involved, that locking it just might be a faster/more efficient solution than constantly reverting and reporting these people. Thanks in advance. 169.231.58.247 (talk) 06:55, 16 December 2014 (UTC)
 * There is already a request at WP:RFPP - so once an admin wakes up, they'll protect it. Somehow we have almost 600 admins and none of them look at RfPP for hours at a time. By the way, why not make an account?  G loss  07:24, 16 December 2014 (UTC)

Edit summaries
Can you please dial down the sarcasm and heat in your edit summaries? I'm trying to help you promote it.♦ Dr. Blofeld  15:56, 29 December 2014 (UTC)

Happy New Year Gloss!
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Happy New Year! Gloss, Have a prosperous, productive and enjoyable New Year, and thanks for your contributions to Wikipedia.  Snuggums ( talk  /  edits ) 05:57, 31 December 2014 (UTC) Send New Year cheer by adding {{subst:Happy New Year 2015}} to user talk pages.
 * Thanks Snuggums, Happy New Year to you too!  G loss  06:49, 31 December 2014 (UTC)

Winnipeg Jets
The edie you undid here: I think may have been hasty. The 3 players whose positions were altered are indeed listed by those other positions on NHL.com. As for how many points they gathered under what position, hard to say, but I think the IP may be right... Echoedmyron (talk) 02:13, 6 January 2015 (UTC)