User talk:Gmatsuda/Archive2

Archive 2 -August 27, 2008

Thanks
Thanks for your good work on Manzanar. It's appreciated. -Will Beback · † · 08:16, 20 April 2007 (UTC)


 * It was and is my pleasure to do it. Gmatsuda 09:34, 20 April 2007 (UTC)

Manzanar
I never apologized for abandoning the GA review on Manzanar, sorry. I am glad to see it was eventually promoted. I became convinced I had no idea what I was doing for some reason, as far as GA reviews, and haven't reviewed an article since, so it was nothing personal. Thanks for being understanding about the abandonment, btw. IvoShandor 10:49, 16 September 2007 (UTC)


 * Don't worry about it. S*** happens to everyone. Looked to me like you knew what you were doing, although I did question your issue with the article length. Anyway, the article is just about to be promoted as an FA, so everything's working out. :-) -- Gmatsuda 10:58, 16 September 2007 (UTC)

Los Angeles Kings
It was chosen to use (interim) for players who wore the 'C' during the long-term absense of the the team Captain. Please stop making the LA Kings article the exception. The interim tag is used on the other NHL team articles. The tags have been in place for about a year, why now object to them. —Preceding unsigned comment added by GoodDay (talk • contribs) 17:57, 10 October 2007 (UTC)


 * I wasn't aware of that, and since we had resolved that issue almost two years ago, that's what I was going by. I've raised the issue on the project talk page, since we are now contradicting official NHL records. -- Gmatsuda 18:02, 10 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Personally, I don't mind if you remove the interim thing, as long as you do that with all the NHL team articles. I simply added them, so unfamiliar readers wouldn't think it was a co-captaincy situation (though Gretz was injured for half the season, he was never stripped of the captaincy). GoodDay 18:33, 10 October 2007 (UTC)


 * We should probably continue this on the project talk page. :-) -- Gmatsuda 18:44, 10 October 2007 (UTC)

Citations missing tag
Instead of massive adding of the "citations missing" tag to every article that doesn't have an expansive "Notes" section, I think you would be more helpful reading some of the references first and maybe noting a couple in-line places that need a reference. Since you tagged a lot of these within a minute of each other, I'm pretty sure you didn't take the time. Obviously, many of these articles need references, but you're making it seem worse than it is. bmitchelf•T•F 21:32, 9 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Actually, I had been looking at all of those articles for awhile now. Just got around to doing the tagging. I wasn't doing this indiscriminately. I do believe that those articles are lacking citations, and since I've been raked over the coals, so to speak, about lacking citations regarding an article that is now a GA and is currently in peer review, I think I've learned a few things. :-) Gmatsuda 21:48, 9 August 2007 (UTC)
 * OK, fair enough. I'll try to help some of the ones I find, like I've been doing with the New York Rangers. bmitchelf•T•F 13:18, 10 August 2007 (UTC)

Manzanar hectares
Why hectares? Good question. Never thought about it. I guess I used it because it's the metric equivalent of acres, whereas square kilometers seem to me to be that of square miles. Also, it's the unit I hear practically every day on the BBC World News what with the fires in Greece. You shook my confidence, so I did some checking. The International System can be found here: . It says on page 17 (page 27 by Adobe reckoning) that the hectare is acceptable. I changed all the km²s in the article to has, by the way, so let's decide now. --Milkbreath 21:42, 29 August 2007 (UTC)


 * OK. We'll use hectares. I changed it all back to using the convert template, though. Gmatsuda 22:16, 29 August 2007 (UTC)


 * The convert template is defective in at least three ways, and should not be used. It doesn't put non-breaking spaces between the value and the unit, it doesn't round to an appropriate degree of precision, and it doesn't provide for occasions where you want "foot" rather than "feet", for instance. --Milkbreath 22:32, 29 August 2007 (UTC)


 * I thought I read that it DOES add the non-breaking spaces? Check out WP:MOS Gmatsuda 22:35, 29 August 2007 (UTC)


 * Well, I'll be dogged. It even provides for rounding, although how you're supposed to tell what to put there beforehand I can't imagine. OK, but I've seen it used so poorly so many times I kill it when I find it. I especially like having direct control over the rounding; for example, if you don't tell it otherwise, it renders 33 feet as 10.0584 meters, which should normally be either 10.1 or 10 depending on the context. Look at the third bullet under "Conversions" on that "Dates and numbers" page, if you like, and you'll see a better explanation than I'm giving here. --Milkbreath 23:03, 29 August 2007 (UTC)


 * Amazingly, there are rare occasions when I know what I'm doing!! :-) Gmatsuda 23:27, 29 August 2007 (UTC)

Manzanar Flag
As per discussion at Picture peer review/Manzanar Flag I will nominate this image at FPC in a day or two, unless you would prefer to do so. --jjron 08:11, 26 September 2007 (UTC)

Scouts
Was there a Boy Scout and/or a Girl Scout troop at Manzanar? I know some of the camps had them.Rlevse 11:38, 27 September 2007 (UTC)
 * PS, have you thought of making a template that lists all the camps? I'll even help if you dig up all the names.Rlevse 15:24, 27 September 2007 (UTC)


 * There was a Boy Scout troop. Don't know about Girl Scouts...not something I ever had the need to research. :-) A template isn't needed the Japanese American Internment article covers that. -- Gmatsuda 21:24, 27 September 2007 (UTC)


 * You may be interested in this and its talk page. We've discovered that Scouting existed in all 10 camps: User:Phips/workshop/DP-Scouts. Rlevse 18:30, 28 September 2007 (UTC)


 * Obviously not.Rlevse 20:31, 28 September 2007 (UTC)


 * I'm not surprised they were present at all ten camps. BTW: I have reverted your edit to the Resistance section of the Manzanar article because what the Boy Scouts did, as positive as it was, in the grand scheme of things at Manzanar, it wasn't a significant part of the Manzanar Riot. What I have done is add that article you referred to to the Additional reading section. Check it out. -- Gmatsuda 20:35, 28 September 2007 (UTC)


 * FYI: Another reason for reverting...that article uses some misleading language. When discussing the Manzanar Riot, one cannot use the term "pro-Japanese" without explaining why these people had become pro-Japan--because of their mistreatment by the US Government. That article does not do that and to introduce the same language in the prose of the article would require us to go into detail about why some internees (it was actually a relative small number) decided to become pro-Japan and eventually renounce their US citizenship. -- Gmatsuda 20:38, 28 September 2007 (UTC)


 * You could have rephrased it. I thought it was a good example of the opposing sides within the camps and how some on both sides were fervent in their beliefs, that is why I added it, not to spam Scout info.Rlevse —Preceding signed but undated comment was added at 20:44, 28 September 2007 (UTC)


 * more sources...Norman Mineta (maybe you heard of him), on norm, sig kagawa camp experiences Rlevse 20:50, 28 September 2007 (UTC)


 * I never thought it was spam... -- Gmatsuda 20:53, 28 September 2007 (UTC)

Ever since you nom'd Manzanar, I've been trying to think of a movie I saw on TV once, but I can't think of the name. Only the start and end are in present time, the rest is a flashback. A Japanese-American mom and her 5-6 yr old daughter are walking down train tracks as they are released from camp. The girl is half white and doesn't remember much of her dad, so mom is telling her. Dad was from NJ and went to CA to get away from the mob. He took a job in a Japanese movie theater as a projectionist and marries the mom, but they have to move to WA to do so as CA still had laws banning interracial marriage. Later they move back to CA. Then Pearl Harbor comes and the mom and daughter are sent to Manzanar (I'm pretty sure it was Manzanar). If we can figure out the title, it could go in see also, ext links, etc. It's based on a true story. There's also Guy Gabaldon, but I don't think he's specifically tied to Manzanar. Rlevse 21:19, 28 September 2007 (UTC)


 * You're talking about Come See the Paradise. It's mentioned in the article now. :-) -- Gmatsuda 21:33, 28 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Cool. I've wikilinked Manzanar to the move article and added to the movie article.Rlevse 22:30, 28 September 2007 (UTC)

A case of serendipity, about the same time you nom'd Manzanar for FAC, I watched the PBS documentary on Ben Kuroki. I was so impressed I bought a copy of the DVD on him from PBS. It arrived about two days ago.Rlevse 16:45, 29 September 2007 (UTC)

Crystal City
Some camp are missing from Japanese American internment, such as Crystal City, Texas, see here. Is there some reason these are not listed in the article? Rlevse 21:54, 30 September 2007 (UTC)


 * If I read the article right, Crystal City should be listed under "Detention and other camps" since it was a DOJ INS camp. Is this correct? Note the photos in the links show Girl Scouts, so we have a confirmed Girl Scout troop in at least one camp.Rlevse 22:09, 30 September 2007 (UTC)


 * I added it to the list. -- Gmatsuda 00:49, 2 October 2007 (UTC)


 * I'm finding this search for Scouting in the camps info fascinating. I just spent three hours looking for photos. You may find this interesting photo gallery. I spent most of the time at gov archives (enter camp name and record ARC number), but some on other sites, and lots of boy scout photos, but only two girl scout ones. I also found a full list of all types of the camps at full listing  that could be used to make a complete list in the internment article. If you would like to do so, feel free, but if not I don’t mind doing it. Just let me know. There's also a photo gallery here. Rlevse 01:29, 2 October 2007 (UTC)


 * Feel free. :-) -- Gmatsuda 02:46, 2 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Done. Rlevse 17:18, 2 October 2007 (UTC)

images
Could you quickly explain why you want these images removed ? They could be moved to for others to use them. John Vandenberg 05:17, 2 October 2007 (UTC)


 * Sure. As the uploader of all of those photos, they are already on the Commons...I moved them. :-) -- Gmatsuda 05:24, 2 October 2007 (UTC)


 * Oh, could you replace the tag with ncd . Thanks, John Vandenberg 05:34, 2 October 2007 (UTC)


 * Done. -- Gmatsuda 05:47, 2 October 2007 (UTC)

Luc Robitaille
Hey again. In hopes to improve the status of this article as much as possible, I have spent a good portion of today working on this article. Today, I have added a large amount of references, which was the major issue facing that article. Before I touched it today, there were five references. Right now, there are a total of 20 references. Here is the link to the changes I've made thus far. There are still several statements that require references, but I think this is a very good start. Feel free to review my work and add to it as you see fit. By the way, most of the references I added have come from the Kings' 2006-07 and 2007-08 media guides, with many others coming from HockeyDB.com.

I think this is a very good start at improving this article even more than I did when I did that major re-write (it would've been much easier for me if I had added the references when I did the re-write). I think that this is a very good start at possibly getting it to good article status. I'm interested in hearing your feedback about my work today. Ksy92003 (talk)  22:46, 30 December 2007 (UTC)

Vandalism Templates
Hello. Regarding the recent revert you made: You may already know about them, but you might find Template messages/User talk namespace useful. After a revert, these can be placed on the user's talk page to let them know you considered their edit was inappropriate, and also direct new users towards the sandbox. They can also be used to give a stern warning to a vandal when they've been previously warned. You can use the uw-speedy# series of warnings to notify people of removed speedy delete headings instead of the generic warning template. Nn123645 (talk) 17:56, 24 December 2007 (UTC)

442nd Infantry Regiment (United States)
I find this tag a bit strong for this article, as it does have references and external links that have been done appropriately. Please consider going through the article and tag the items of concern with, so as to clarify specifically how it might be fixed. Thanks,  K u k i ni  hablame aqui 19:29, 22 January 2008 (UTC)


 * The article has just two citations and they aren't even formatted properly. This article needs a lot more references/inline citations. As for external links, they should be used instead as inline citations that would appear under references unless they are used to supplement what's already in the article (see WP:EL and WP:MOS). -- Gmatsuda (talk) 19:42, 22 January 2008 (UTC)

Main page nomination for Manzanar
I'm not finding it, was it removed? Chris (クリス • フィッチ) (talk) 20:37, 2 April 2008 (UTC)


 * Apparently...trying to figure out why. -- Gmatsuda (talk) 20:37, 2 April 2008 (UTC)


 * I guess there can be only five requests on that page at any given time...so it was removed. I'll re-nominate ASAP. Keep an eye out. -- Gmatsuda (talk) 20:49, 2 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Let me know when it reappears on the list. FYI, I think the 5-article limit is one of the silliest wiki rules ever. Raul and I had a huge debate about it once. — Rlevse  •  Talk  • 21:27, 2 April 2008 (UTC)

Standing by. --Milkbreath (talk) 22:44, 2 April 2008 (UTC)


 * You could immediately replace the 0 point nomination sitting at the top, but since it already has a lot of supports, I suggest you wait until the next round of openings. If you miss the slot in the next round, then just replace a low-value nomination right away. Another suggestion is to ask the nominator who is holding a late date (for example in May) and ask if you could take his/her spot in the queue. --RelHistBuff (talk) 06:04, 4 April 2008 (UTC)


 * Ignore that. I put it up when a slot cleared. --RelHistBuff (talk) 13:27, 4 April 2008 (UTC)

Rewriting Jack Soo
I thought you'd have some good ideas on rewriting this part of the Topaz article, but it didn't seem worthwhile to put on the discussion page. Current content:
 * Goro Suzuki (1917–1979), the Oakland-born entertainer remembered by millions under his stage name, Jack Soo, star of the original stage and movie productions of Flower Drum Song and remembered for his role as Detective Nick Yemana on the 1970s sitcom Barney Miller. Suzuki was a favorite performer at Topaz gatherings.

My thoughts:
 * it would be nice to have his name wikilinked. I was thinking about creating a redirect from Goro to Jack, or vice versa (since Jack is really Goro, not vice versa).
 * rewrite the "who he is" section to replect this.

My hacky first version:
 * Goro Suzuki (1917-1979), Oakland-born entertainer who performed as Jack Soo. Suzuki starred in the stage and movie productions of Flower Drum Song, as well as Detective Nick Yemana on Barney Miller. Suzuki was a favorite performer at Topaz gatherings.

Really, I'm deferring to you because I'm not an expert on this content as you are, and I don't want to go in with a machete when it really needs pruning shears. I'm also unsure of the (erm) notability of the two names in his time, especially in the Topaz times. For instance, Kareem_Abdul-Jabbar is listed as such, not as Lewis Alcindor. That makes sense since he changed his name (ie not just took on a stage name), but I'd think it depends if he was already known as Jack Soo. I may just be picking nits, though. Tedder (talk) 06:56, 9 July 2008 (UTC)


 * I think you'll be fine. You probably know as much about him as I do, since all I know was from watching him on Barney Miller and an episode of MASH, really. Besides, after getting Manzanar to FA status, I don't have the time to do much more than polish stuff up these days. -- Gmatsuda (talk) 07:10, 9 July 2008 (UTC)

Teminology
Hi Gmatsuda. We've been discussing the terminology section in Topaz article. I wanted to follow-up with you on a related article. The terminology section in Topaz contains what I think is a very important paragraph — the Japanese American National Museum and the AJC joint statement: "A concentration camp is a place where people are imprisoned..." For some reason, this paragraph is not included in the Japanese American internment section. I think it is important information for readers. Do you know why it's not in that article? I think it should be added. — Wjwalrus (talk) 20:25, 23 July 2008 (UTC)


 * Feel free to add it. :-) -- Gmatsuda (talk) 20:53, 23 July 2008 (UTC)

Crystal City Internment Camp
Would you mind explaining to me why CCIC doesn't qualify for the template? I'm not upset, I just genuinely don't understand. S. D. Jameson 01:37, 11 August 2008 (UTC)


 * There were different kinds of these camps, but Gmatsuda can explain that far better than I can. — Rlevse  •  Talk  • 01:41, 11 August 2008 (UTC)


 * Actually, you can probably find the info in Japanese American internment. If not, let me know. -- Gmatsuda (talk) 07:42, 11 August 2008 (UTC)
 * It's listed on this map at the article, but with a star. Is there a template for the type of camp that CCIC represented? S.  D. Jameson 22:54, 13 August 2008 (UTC)


 * Not that I'm aware of. -- Gmatsuda (talk) 22:56, 13 August 2008 (UTC)