User talk:Gnanapiti/Archive 4

Will do, Sahib!
Will go through Karnataka article this evening (July 5th, Eastern US Time, which will be July 6th India time). Writtenright 18:05, 5 July 2007 (UTC)Writtenright

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Karnataka edit complete
Gnanapiti: I have just finished editing the Karnataka article. I am more familiar with US English than with British English, which is more widely known in India/Pakistan/Bangladesh. I favour British spelling, but the idioms and figures of speech are all US style. As I have said, it is not perfect, but I do hope that it shall prove at least adequate. I now place it back into the hands of you and the other editors. Please polish it some more! Namaste, Writtenright 01:40, 6 July 2007 (UTC)Writtenright


 * Gnanapiti: I have updated by user page so that you may learn a little bit more about me and my background. I neglected to mention that I studied linguistics at Nazareth College under Dr. Jeremy Berent of the Rochester Institute of Technology and that my special interest as an undergraduate was Indian philosophy, especially the philosophy of the Upanishads, Advaita Vedanta and the Madhyamika School of Mahayana Buddhism founded by Nagarjuna. I have always been keenly interested in Indian thought and culture. Among nineteenth and twentieth-century Indian spiritual masters, I am most familiar with Sri Ramakrishna, Bhagavan Sri Ramana Maharshi, and Jiddu Krishnamurti.


 * You are more than welcome to refer articles to me for review at any time. It is a pleasure working with a fellow editor who takes his work seriously and is willing to listen to friendly criticism. No one is always right all of the time. Let's work together in this project to elevate the knowledge of all mankind. Namaste, Writtenright 21:08, 6 July 2007 (UTC)Writtenright

Image:Halegannada.jpg
Hi. thanks for your message. I never edit in bad faith, nor do I go out of my way to cause conflict or disruption. The license tag I found in the above image does say that the permission does not extend for commercial use. Kamat's Potpourri also sates that the "...The content is used for non-commercial purposes only...". Such restrictions are not allowed in WP. Please see WP:COPY - Parthi talk/contribs 03:02, 6 July 2007 (UTC)
 * I didn't upload the said image. You can tag it if you want. It is not used in any of my articles. - Parthi talk/contribs 03:08, 6 July 2007 (UTC)
 * 'Disruptive'?? May be you should take a look at the behaviour of one of your colleagues. I tagged the Tanjore painting image for the same reasons I tagged the Halegannada image. In my opinion use of fairuse images from websites such as Kamat's Potpourri is a sign of laziness when other free images may be obtained for them. I hope the Halegannada inscription still exists somewhere and someone can take a photo of it. The way Kannada articles freely use the contents of the Kamat Potpourri website is not the way WP is intended to be used. Again this is purely my opinion. The fact remains that the use of any material in WP should be covered by GFDL or at worst by C-C 2.5. The kamat website does not allow commercial use of the material. Lets wait until the fairuse review is done. Meanwhile don't call me disruptive or a bad-faith editor. There is enough of that going around on your side of the team. Thanks Parthi talk/contribs 03:56, 6 July 2007 (UTC)

Your citations on Talk:Telugu_script
I was a bit intrigued by the above citations by you (edit diffs here), not just because the quoted pages aren't available for preview under Google books. Let me begin by assuming good faith and take it that you have seen the paper versions of those books. In which case, can you please do the following, so I can verify them?: Lotlil 15:59, 6 July 2007 (UTC)
 * 1) Please specify the exact title, author, publisher, isbn, date, page numbers for all of them. Or if you prefer, just confirm if these are the books you are referring to: Book-1 and Book-3
 * 2) Your 2nd and 3rd citations seem confusing, because the author of the 2nd book actually also wrote the 3rd book, with a similar title. Are they the same book or different? If they are different, please provide details I requested in (1) above.
 * 3) For those three references, can you quote the lines (just one line per book with page number, would suffice) which refer to old-Kannada?

Jog Falls height
Please understand that Jog is the higest untired water fall in Asia. Water fall database does not rank untired water falls. It also cosiders falls that flow like a stream from the hill. Thus saying og falls is 8th heighest is incorrect and does unjustice to its beauty. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Raghuks (talk • contribs)

Bangalore and Mysore
Most esteemed sir: I have done a bit of work on "Bangalore" and "Mysore" in addition to "Karnataka" and "Kannada". You may wish to check these articles for inaccuracies; I take it you are a Kannadiga and therefore should know where this person has erred. Namaste, Writtenright 23:38, 11 July 2007 (UTC)Writtenright

Sivaji
Hi., please let me know why i shouldn't consider your activities in the Sivaji page (esp - removal of reference tags and addition of fact tags) as vandal activities? Esp., i am looking forward to your explanation on why you removed references of this ET report. --Kalyan 05:14, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

Billava
Thanks for the contribution wiki. But ur last contribution to the article billava is not appriciated as u have removed a sourced content. please vist this link http://www.thiyabillawa.com/about_us.asp thanks u Daya anjali 09:14, 15 July 2007 (UTC)
 * how come u cud place Wikipedia's no personal attacks policy on talk page? i never did or intende do so....

Daya anjali 12:01, 18 July 2007 (UTC)


 * U have explicitly removed "The Tulu word derived from " from my posts also. U have removed a section from subsects of billava.

Daya anjali 10:55, 19 July 2007 (UTC)

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Kingfisher Frequent Flyer Program
This is related to the Kingfisher Airlines frequent flier information that you removed. It is not promotional. You search for any airline on Wikipedia & you will also find frequent flyer program information. Could youe explain why the frequent flyer information should not be in Wikipedia? Thanks Wikizen07 18:04, 16 July 2007 (UTC)

PA?
Hi. Can you please explain how this constitutes a personal attack on you? thanks Parthi talk/contribs 05:13, 17 July 2007 (UTC)

Dayanjali
Please see User_talk:Tintin1107 and User_talk:Dayaanjali. Looks like a misunderstanding on both sides. Maybe you two should talk and get over it. Tintin 11:50, 18 July 2007 (UTC)

Sivaji - lead actress
Hi., i noticed that you attached my notes on data from rumour mill with "fact" tags. I found an article from The Hindu which lists a few of these actresses linked to the movie at various stages. I have thus modified the information and removed names of actresses not mentioned in the Hindu article. Hope this works for you. --Kalyan 12:37, 18 July 2007 (UTC)

Kingfisher Frequent Flyer
Hi there I had added few more airlines to the frequent flyer information on Kingfisher Airlines & you changed it to

As a part of this partnership, beginning October 1, 2007, passengers will be able to earn King Miles on all flights operated by Continental Airlines as well as Air France, KLM and Northwest Airlines.

This probably needs revision as your edit indicates that passengers will start earning miles on all airlines starting from Oct 1. That is not true as they will only start earning miles on Continental starting Oct 1. They already earn miles on AF, KLM & NA.

Thiruvalluvar statue
Your edit summary says there's copy vio material in the article. I've asked a question about this on the talk page. Can you respond to it? Lotlil 02:53, 27 July 2007 (UTC)

"Ask and ye shall receive"
Dear Sir: Jesus said, "Seek and ye shall find; ask and ye shall receive; knock and the door shall be opened unto you". He was speaking of religious Truth, but this is often the case in more mundane affairs as well.

I would be more than happy to assist you in the preparation of your next article. I don't know as much as I might wish to about the ancient and fascinating nation and culture of Bharat; but I may add, without false modesty, that I know English better than most English. Writtenright 22:53, 27 July 2007 (UTC)Writtenright

Kuppaya - Kuppayam dispute in article Beary
Hi. Beary community uses a dialect called Beary Bashe in which it is called Kuppaya and NOT Kuppayam. Kuppayam is a Malayalam word! So kindly fix it. Thanks Abushahin 06:07, 31 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Done. Gnanapiti 15:15, 31 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Approximately 20 - 25% of Beary bashe words come from Malayalam. When those words are Bearified they change their pronunciation. For instance, Vellam becomes Bella and Kuppayam becomes Kuppaya. A Latin word loses it latin phonetic when it is used as an English word. It is true to every language of the world. So, in Beary bashe the correct pronunciation is Kuppaya. Thnaks for fixing Abushahin 07:54, 2 August 2007 (UTC)

Classical languages
Please read my edit to the article's talk page. Amit 16:24, 31 July 2007 (UTC)



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Hindus Believe:
Added "Hindus believe" that Krishna lived in India -- satisfied?

Umesh (Jaipurschool 23:14, 4 August 2007 (UTC))

Hindus Believe;

Whats wronh with saying that Hindus believe he lived in India -is that wrong - do I need to prove that Hindus beleive Krishna to be avatar of Vishnu as well. I am a Hindu born and raised and I know that Hindus believe that Krishna was bron and raised and lived in India.

Umesh (Jaipurschool 23:40, 4 August 2007 (UTC))

Umesh

Advertising
PLEASE tell me how this is advertising lol why you getting so mad ? Stop ignoring the facts I'm laying out infront of you. Explain to me how this is not POP CULTURE.... —Preceding unsigned comment added by Redblue85 (talk • contribs)

World Series
There is plenty of good information in the article. I would like to improve it, but I need something to work with. I wonder if you could provide your "Top 5 Most Questionable Statements" in the article, so I could at least get started with some improvements. Baseball Bugs 17:42, 10 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Well, there are a number of references listed already. Is there even one thing you can point to, to start with, which strikes you as needing a citation? Baseball Bugs 18:17, 10 August 2007 (UTC)
 * The entire "international" section was written to temper complaints that it shouldn't be called the "World" Series, as if wikipedia has anything to do with why the Series has that name. I would just as soon zap all or most of that paragraph, and leave the simple explanation of where the term came from, instead of trying to pre-empt editorializing in the article. I wonder what would be the best way to do that? Baseball Bugs 19:01, 10 August 2007 (UTC)
 * The risk of leaving it out is that the whole cycle starts over. Maybe we can figure out a way to deal with that when it happens, or pre-empt it more succinctly. Various authors have tried to post the misleading point that it's limited to the U.S. and Canada. That's not true, for more than one reason. It's limited to the 30 clubs that are in Major League Baseball, which could be anywhere MLB chooses to put them. If they expanded or moved a team to Mexico or Japan or Korea or the Dominican Republic or Venezuela or (gasp!) Cuba, then those countries would be "eligible" also. This is not like the various World Cups or the Olympics, with national teams competing. And the champions of the high-minor leagues, the Pacific Coast League and the International League, no matter how good they might be, do not get to participate. And the name goes back to a time when organized baseball was played only in the U.S. and Canada. Baseball Bugs 19:42, 10 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Meanwhile, I'm adding the book sources that I most often use for baseball stuff, and which could be used later for specific citations as needed. Baseball Bugs 19:46, 10 August 2007 (UTC)

Mappila Songs
Why did you think that was G1? I can't see any obvious reason to delete, so I have removed the speedy tag. J Milburn 10:11, 11 August 2007 (UTC)

August 2007
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Allegations of state terrorism in Sri Lanka
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Allegations of state terrorism in Sri Lanka
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 * You recently reverted and removed cited material on the above page. Please discuss the reason behind the revert and removal. Thanks.Watchdogb 21:17, 12 August 2007 (UTC)

Anil
Image:Anil Kumble graph.png Pardon me for breaking into your posts but if you'd like a graph of Anil's recent (and not so recent) successes then I'd add a note at User talk:Raven4x4x. If that fails, give me a shout. The Rambling Man 19:42, 13 August 2007 (UTC)


 * I've added the graph. Raven taught me how to do these graphs in the same way.  Blnguyen  ( bananabucket ) 01:42, 14 August 2007 (UTC)

Another milestone in Portal: Karnataka
We have reached yet another milestone in the Karnataka WikiProject today when the 75th DYK related to Karnataka has been featured on the main page of Wikipedia.. You can see the entire list here. 25 more to go to make it a century.

Thanks a lot for your contributions in making this happen -- ¿Amar៛ Talk to me / My edits03:55, 14 August 2007 (UTC)

Rangayana
I have added some more info which can qualify as a DYK as well. Please have a look and nominate it if you find it good. Lot of info is available and can be added, related to Rangayana. Will add some more info in the coming days-- ¿Amar៛ Talk to me / My edits04:28, 14 August 2007 (UTC)


 * I have gone ahead and nomed Rangayana. Please have a look at the DYK talk page and see if you want to make any corrections/modifications. Thanks -- ¿Amar៛ Talk to me / My edits06:07, 14 August 2007 (UTC)

Talk:Mahatma Gandhi
AAARRRGGGHHH!!! It seems two of us reverted simultaneously - the edit previous to mine hadn't appeared when I told it to revert! Sorry.
 * Gnanapiti said:
 * May be you have to be bit more careful while reverting if you are using automated tools with this account. Gnanapiti 01:55, 15 August 2007 (UTC)

--Voxpuppet 01:58, 15 August 2007 (UTC)

upload images to commons
I need to learn how to do this. Some issues before I do this are,

1. While most of the image file names carry the correct info (generally) to identify the image with its context (meaning which temple, location etc), some image files need file name change, some others may need file name enahancement. I am guilty of this as I was less expereinced a year back and may have created files with "not so accurate" file names.

2. Some time back I went through all the images I am currently using in FA's and DYK's etc and added the correct description in the fieled provided for the same, though there may be a few images I have uploaded but am not using that may need this description enhancement. Fortunately, I have a text file in which all the images files names are stored. So I can pull up all the images one by one and complete the description (ex:This photo was taken by self at ...... temple.... on July ....).

From this trip onwards, I will be more organised. each filename will be as descriptive as possible and the description field will also be more clear about location etc. The format I will use is, location_temple_context.jpg ex:Kuknur_Navalinga_temple.jpg, Itagi_Mahadeva_oldKannada_inscription.jpg.

I want to complete item no.2 first. At leeast this way, the description part is clean fo others to read and use if required. Then I will do the item no1. There are some files that have the same Balligavi_Kedareshvara.jpg. This should actually be Ballagavi_Kedareshvara_temple.jpg. for a reder to understand the context correctly.

Dineshkannambadi 16:01, 16 August 2007 (UTC)

Change file name
Can I change the image filename with a "move" if an option exists? Can I move the image file the way we move another wiki article?Dineshkannambadi 20:10, 16 August 2007 (UTC)

How do I upload to commons?Dineshkannambadi 21:30, 16 August 2007 (UTC)

Seems like a lot of work. What is the final advantage in moving to commons?Dineshkannambadi 21:44, 16 August 2007 (UTC)

Instead of re-uploading can I transfer images from wiki to commons? or did you already answer that question with a "no". Many of my images were scanned from photos taken from my SLR camera. So if I have to re-upload them, I will have to scan them again which takes some time. Only the photos in my CD's can be uploaded quickly the way you say it.Dineshkannambadi 21:59, 16 August 2007 (UTC)

I am also concerned about the links issue. I would have to go through every article and correct the links to the image right?Dineshkannambadi 22:11, 16 August 2007 (UTC)

commons
Ok. I am currently editing Mysore Kingdom literature. Will be done by saturday evening. Please feel free to cpedit it for DYK.Dineshkannambadi 22:02, 23 August 2007 (UTC)

Images
Please see if you can get license for this Sarvajna manuscript on Kamaths web page at http://www.kamat.com/kalranga/kar/7326.htm. They may also have images of the poet himself. Also any image you deem necessary for the article Mysore Kingdom literature. Images of Krishnadevaraja Wodeyar II, III would be good. I have one for the IVth.Dineshkannambadi 00:44, 25 August 2007 (UTC)

The article is ready for copy edits. Perhaps we can take sections and finish it, unless you are busy with something else? If you are busy, dont worry, I will finish it. Which sounds better and unique "DYK that the rule of Mysore Kingdom was a golden age of musical compositions and Yakshagana in Kannada literature" or "DYK that Kannada literature was influenced by English literature in the 19th century".

Any other ideas?Dineshkannambadi 17:25, 25 August 2007 (UTC)

I have done one round of copy edits. Looks ok to me. Just one light round would do. Next I will do the "Musicains of Mysore Kingdom", then we go for major work on "Kannada literature".Dineshkannambadi 03:31, 26 August 2007 (UTC)

yes, it would do nicely in the 17th century section.Dineshkannambadi 04:27, 26 August 2007 (UTC)

When you go thru the artile, try to think of a few nice images that would brighten up the page. Ofcourse the images should be available too. The best images to have are those of the kings/poets themselves.Dineshkannambadi 04:33, 26 August 2007 (UTC)

The Barkers
If pointing out the mischief of some people is whining, then those mischievous people can be termed as barkers.Kumarrao 10:22, 25 August 2007 (UTC)

Mysore
Yes. Unfortunately, Even I did not realise how important the Mysore kings are in our history, perhaps because they were eclipsed by the British. While literature was dominated by local writers, in music the honours are shared by both local and external musicians who resided in their courts. Purniah (dewan) wanted to relive the cultural glory of Vijayanagara. So he played an important role in bringing outside talent as well. While Tanjore dominated vocal music, Mysore domined instrumental. All in the next DYK.Dineshkannambadi 16:40, 27 August 2007 (UTC)

August 2007
Please stop. If you continue to blank out (or delete portions of) page content, templates or other materials from Wikipedia, you will be blocked from editing.  Altruism T a l k - Contribs. 05:25, 28 August 2007 (UTC)

images
We need to find images of T. Chowdiah, Veena Seshanna and other musicians for the next DYK. Have ou seen any on Kamat?Dineshkannambadi 22:32, 30 August 2007 (UTC)

I also plan to decorate the article with musical intruments like Veena, Violin, Flute as they were used extensively by the musicians.Will be done by Sunday night (I think)Dineshkannambadi 00:19, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

A-H
Re my 'mass deletions'; they were either to uncited comments, statements fact-tagged, or attributed to non-reliable sources; and also, to bring the size of the Tipu section in line with the rest of the article. One instance of A-H should not dominate the whole article. Hornplease 22:38, 4 September 2007 (UTC)

carnatic music
Gnani, when you have time can you look into this article. I was trying to add a para on Mysore instrumentalists but had syntax issues. I added a para, with citations and reference but had to revert because of the syntax issue I could not figure out and I am in a hurry now to be elsewhere.If you are busy I will look into this later.Dineshkannambadi 14:10, 5 September 2007 (UTC)

Took care of it.Dineshkannambadi 14:39, 5 September 2007 (UTC)

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bangalore/mysore etymology
Sare, Why r u deleting historical and confirmed info....kannada chaluvali sangha?...enappa idu...nimge proof bekandre keli....summana delete madbeda....

PONDHEEPANKAR K DELHI UNIVERSITY —Preceding unsigned comment added by PONDHEEPANKAR (talk • contribs)

Carnatic
Certainly. The Carnatic Music article exists purely as a summary of the main points of Carnatic music - these composers compositions are rarely sung in kutcheris today, or even in our yester-years. This article does not include every composer, but just the main composers (whose compositions are most commonly rendered) in the Carnatic circuit. Of the Carnatic composers listed, only one "Veena Sheshanna" could potentially fit under this heading, but doesn't without a full biography. I point out it is misplaced, but it doesn't stop the continued reverting by a certain unfortunately careless editor.

On another note, the terms are Sangeetham, Geetham, Varnam and most importantly, Virutham. They are not Sangeetha, Geetha, Varna and Virutha. Please edit.

Hope that clarifies it a little. Feel free to drop your thoughts. Ncmvocalist 20:40, 9 September 2007 (UTC)

Sorry, I just saw your other message now. Oh well. Ncmvocalist 20:41, 9 September 2007 (UTC)

i have given pucca proof
dir if you once again go for deletion, which has been given with pucca proof, iwould be forced to take it as vandalism.

read the links.

PONDHEEPANKAR 21:09, 9 September 2007 (UTC)

links about akananuru and sanskritisation. —Preceding unsigned comment added by PONDHEEPANKAR (talk • contribs) 21:12, 9 September 2007 (UTC)

Airport
Done. Thanks - KNM Talk 15:45, 10 September 2007 (UTC)

Hi Friend
Hi Friend, May I know why you deleted my edit in the kannada article. You can have a discussion on talk page before editing right. Any how, have a nice day Regards --IndiWorld 06:11, 13 September 2007 (UTC) Hi Friend, If you still do such vandalism act, I will report it as an act of vandalism. Thanks for the coordination, Let us work to gether to bring a better article. Which is clear, readable and true to the best of our knowledge. Regards --IndiWorld 06:29, 13 September 2007 (UTC)

you kannada zealots
We in the Tamil and Dravidian work group have decided to give you nightmares with wiki edit wars. If you want have status quo on both the sides, keep off from tagging and we will reciprocate. I have given notes at the end. Better nimma aspatre hogi nimma kannugalalli test madisi...

PONDHEEPANKAR 14:58, 13 September 2007 (UTC)

Hai,
Hello Ganpiti,

I am Kangeyan. I myself am a descendent of the Ganga dynasy. I am a friend of PonDheepankar and I have noticed you having an edit war with him. Please stop this as I have also contributed to this research and ppl. from the region all over the world are reading and telling this history to their children. No wars. Peace only helps. Cheers.

Kangeyan 19:42, 13 September 2007 (UTC)


 * Please see WP:SOCK and WP:EVADE. Evading the block by creating sock accounts may lead to further long time blocks. Cheers and happy editing. Gnanapiti 20:27, 13 September 2007 (UTC)

ganapiti
It is perfectly outrageous to brand me a sock puppet. Kangeyan 22:54, 13 September 2007 (UTC)

Speedy deletion?
Hello Gnanapiti, it seems you nominated Kangeyam bull for speedy deletion per WP:CSD (diff.). I'm sure it was a mistake, so I removed the tag. Just a heads-up! :-) Best regards --TreeKittens 05:55, 15 September 2007 (UTC)


 * Yes, indeed it was a mistake. I requested a speedy deletion but then searched on the Google to see to article is notable. Thanks for your action. Gnanapiti 06:02, 15 September 2007 (UTC)


 * No worries Gnanapiti! Please also note, however, that lack of notability per WP:N is not grounds for speedy deletion, and that WP:CSD applies only to "An article about a real 'person, group of people, band, club, company, or web content..." and does not apply to animals - the Kangeyam bull - whether they are notable or not. Thanks for answering so swiftly, and best regards :-) --TreeKittens 06:11, 15 September 2007 (UTC)