User talk:Gndwtr1

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Orlady, Last July 2009 you interacted with me on Wikipedia's entry for Henry Darcy. At the time (and for months after) I could not find a reference that I'd seen about Darcy. Today, however, I stumbled across the following reference.

Unfortunately, I do not know how to add such an entry to Wikipedia and am requesting your help. I wish to make reference to [https://info.ngwa.org/GWOL/pdf/940659647.pdf ]. As you will see, it was published in (1994) Vol 32, no. 1, GROUND WATER, pp 23-30.

Peno Black (talk) 21:47, 4 February 2010 (UTC)

Henry Darcy
Hi. This is a long-overdue welcome -- it's too bad you haven't attracted anyone's attention before this.

I regret that I reverted your additions to Henry Darcy (but they are still preserved in the page history). There was no source (see WP:V), the information appears to be your own original research (not a proper basis for a Wikipedia article), and I'm not convinced that the detailed grave location is encyclopedic (seems like trivia). I think that maybe I should have left in the name of the cemetery, but it still needs a published source. --Orlady (talk) 03:08, 3 July 2009 (UTC)


 * You undid my edit to that article. Apparently you didn't agree with it. That kind of thing happens rather often around here, but the usual protocol when a "Wikipedian" disagrees with another Wikipedian's actions is to discuss them. I explained my action in an WP:edit summary, on the article talk page, and here. Would you please do me the courtesy of explaining why you think your edit needed to be restored? --Orlady (talk) 03:34, 3 July 2009 (UTC)

I hope you got my reply about Henry Darcy and the name change of the Dijon cemetery. I should add that the reference I've relied on is an English translation by Patricia Bobeck (http://www.pbobeck.com/fountains.html). --Peno Black (talk) 03:51, 3 July 2009 (UTC)


 * I saw your most recent change to the article, and left the info about the name of the cemetery, although we really ought to be able to cite a 3rd-party source. Unfortunately, "according to the Bureau des Gardes" is insufficient attribution for verifiability in Wikipedia (we need to cite sources, much as one would do in an academic journal), and it's not at all clear that the specific location of the grave within the cemetery is the type of detail that needs to be in an encyclopedia article -- it seems to me like trivia (see WP:NOT). Your photo of the gravesite would be welcome at Wikipedia. If you are willing to freely share it with the world, I suggest that you upload it to Wikimedia Commons (commons.wikimedia.org).
 * I looked at the link you cited, and find that it's a promotional piece for an English translation of Darcy's book. Was your source perhaps a translator's introduction to the book? --Orlady (talk) 15:04, 3 July 2009 (UTC)


 * PS - The standard protocol for signing comments on Wikipedia talk pages is to add the signature after your comment, either by typing 4 tildes or by clicking on the "your signature with timestamp" button above the box (it's the squiggle between the W with the red slashmark and the bold horizontal bar). --Orlady (talk) 15:13, 3 July 2009 (UTC)

Peno Black (talk) 03:17, 4 July 2009 (UTC) Thanks for your comments. I did in fact checkout the Bobeck translation from the University of Illinois library and think it would be an excellent reference for English readers. A number of symposiums (Geological Society of America for one) have proposed tours (GSA Ventures) to Dijon and some of my info came from them. Plus, I visited Dijon in May 2009 despite not finding all of the facts about Darcy in academic publications. I did witness a plaque placed in 2006 at his memorial fountain by the International Association of Hydrogeologists (written in French) and perhaps they have some attributes that could be referenced.